AmeriPope / Hamilton HipHopocrites

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vorgiez.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Lucy Chapman is back. Lucy, Hello, missed you yesterday. You
leave for one day and we have a pope. It
was an incredible scene.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Where do you think I was?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It was an incredible Lucy went to the Vatican. It
was an incredible scene because traditionally the way that conclave
works is they take a vote and if they haven't
agreed on who the next Pope's going to be, then
it's black smoke that comes out. But usually when they

(00:35):
decided on who the new Pope's going to be, it's
white smoke that comes out. But yesterday it was red, white,
and blue smoke at the Vatican.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I am a huge fan of Chicago.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Absolutely amazing. They chose an American pope. Former Colorado Buffalo's
quarterback Shador Sanders.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
He got the call, He got the call.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
You got the call, Hey, Shaduur. Yeah, how you doing.
It's it's Cardinal Blake at the Vatican. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we're thinking about making you new pope. Shoulders like, all right,
let's be legendary. So yeah, I've been waiting, Well you're
gonna have to wait a little longer. And they all
started laughing and hung up on him. Turns out that

(01:19):
was just a prank. It wasn't Shadoor Sanders. It ended
up being a Chicago native who has chosen the name
Leo Sayer. No Lee, Leo the fourteenth Pope. Leo the fourteenth.

(01:42):
Thirteen wasn't enough. Leo fifteen's too much.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's Leo the fourteenth, and he does made me feel
like dancing.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes, that's right. In just an an instant, this man's
name went from Robert Bobby Poe. Bobby was rejected. You know,
when you become pope, you choose an historic papal name,
one befitting of the pontiffery, and so he went with Leo.

(02:15):
But right before that, his name was Robert Prevost. And
everyone said, wait, we all we've been told for our
lifetimes is oh, they would never choose a pope from
the United States. Would never happen. America already either is
or thinks it is, in charge of everything. We're not

(02:38):
going to put them in charge of the church. America
has got enough else going on. We don't need their
well yeah, yeah, that was basically the thought, like, why
would we choose an America to be pope? They already
think they run everything is exactly what that mindset was.

(02:58):
So this guy goes, who's only been a cardinal for
a couple of years. This guy goes into conclave thinking
I don't have I mean, you know how sometimes at
the Academy Awards, someone wins and they go up there
and go, wow, I didn't even have a speech, And
you're like, I don't believe you. I mean, sure, certainly

(03:18):
that happens from time to time. You're up for Best
Actress against Meryl Streep. It doesn't matter who else is
up for best Actress, you're not gonna win. It's gonna
be Meryl Streep. And suddenly they say in the Oscar
goes to Lucy Chapman, you go up there and go,
holy cow, I didn't believe that I didn't have anything.
I almost didn't show up. Do you think there was

(03:43):
anything in this man's brain that suggested to him, you know,
I might walk out of here pope? Was there even
do you allow yourself the brief glimpse of possibility of
I wonder if I need to have a name ready

(04:05):
to go. You know, if they all look at me
and go, all right, Bobby, you're the Pope.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, first you have to make you have to assume
then that they don't know anything until the smoke comes out,
and then they're told. And I don't believe that that
can't possibly be the case.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
He knew that he was the pope, as they said,
all right, you're the pope, and now here comes to smoke.
The time between the smoke and when he comes out
on the balcony there at the Vatican, that's when I
don't know exactly.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
They have a bunch of pope, possible popes sitting.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
There and everyone anyone, any baptized person in the.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
World, but they had some people that they were considering
to be the pope, so they were they all there,
all for five or sigam or whatever.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
And yeah, that's that's how it works. No, it's not.
It's you go in there and people vote by a
secret ballot and there's some conversation, and you can watch
as many movies as you want about it. But the
truth of the matter is is that the only people
who have ever been a part of this they don't
really talk about it. So we're all kind of left

(05:21):
to guess as to how this works. But not only
could anyone in that room have been pope. Anyone outside
of the room could have been pope. Then they have
to call the person. I hope they answered the call, like, hey,
what are you doing while I was golfing? Hey, why
don't you get over here. We're gonna dress you up
and you're gonna be the pope. Well, you got to

(05:44):
get dressed up. You can't go out there wearing jeans
and a plaid shirt.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
This isn't a well hopefully you're not wearing jeans while
you're gold.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, this is a Catholic thing, you know. Yeah, I
don't know what's worse, jeans in church or jeans on
the golf course. I'm very judgmental. What we don't know
is how judgmental this new pope is. We'll get back
to that. I just wanted to continue to put myself
in the shoes of the Not only were there people

(06:12):
in the room, probably like the former now Robert Prevost,
who thought there is zero chance I end up pope
out of this, but there were people in that room
who thought there is a one hundred percent certitude that
I'm going to be the next pope.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Not him. It wasn't him that thought.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
No, Okay, you know that there were cardinals in that
room going all right, I think we all know why
we're here. You're looking for the next guy who has
two thumbs and is the next pope. This guy you
know that there were people I don't. I mean, I

(06:55):
know that ego is an interesting thing. But you get
a room of guys together, you're gonna ask some guys
in there with a pretty good ego. Oh no, they
give a vow of this and they turn themselves. Yes,
of course they do, but that brain sometimes can't help itself.
They might not be saying it out loud, but they

(07:15):
there are some guys walked in there with a certain
swagger going, this is the last time I walk in here.
Is you know, Greg Brady or whatever my name is,
I'm gonna walk out his pope. And then they're like,
what should my pope name be? And they all have
they had it, they had it all laid out, and

(07:36):
then it wasn't them. And they're like that guy, that guy,
the American, he's from Chicago. I want to be better.
I mean, can we get someone from Boston? I don't
know which city is.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Boston would make more sense.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Boston seems like it's a slight more Catholic town like Boston, Chicago,
Omaha has got a lot of Catholics. I see him
every time I go to mass I'm surrounded by him.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Isn't that Lord?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
I know?

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Like, hasn't anyone else in here have been baptized in
a Methodist church? And they start throwing holy water at me?
It's very sweet. Actually, so this guy, I doubt he
had any idea. It's like when you're sitting there at

(08:33):
a restaurant and the menus in front of you and
suddenly everyone's ordering. You're like, oh, I should have I
have no idea, and then your heart's racing, your brain
is like, come on, just pick something, just order a
hot dog. But you're at an Italian restaurant. You don't
know what you're doing. Everyone's looking at you and you're like,

(08:55):
all right, you're up. You're the pope. What's your pope
name gonna be? And you're like, uh I, I hadn't
studied the You haven't pope, sir? Mix a lot. I
don't know. I don't one of my choices. I have
no idea. How would you even know?

Speaker 3 (09:14):
People would know if you're up that high?

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Can I just be pope? Robert my whole my whole life,
I've been Robert. Is Robert a good name? Now Robert
is a terrible name. You gotta choose something else? But
why but why do I have to choose some? But
but my name is Robert?

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Liked another vote?

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Right? Suddenly the the the Old Knight from the Indiana
Jones movie comes out and says, you have chosen poorly.
So not only then does this man have to study

(09:52):
suddenly deal with being the pope? You know who else
has to his? His family? He's got at least one brother.
I think he's got more. But they're all watching it,
and they were shocked, like, can you get your brother

(10:13):
on the phone, like whereas before he used to text
him and you know, call him stinky nuts and stuff
like that. Can you it's it's still your brother now,
Like I guess I can't call you that nickname we've
had since we were kids. You're the pope? And and
is this guy's brother someone who is a good man?

(10:35):
Or is he like Roger Clinton? Is his? Is the
Pope's brother Billy Carter? He's like, hey, Pope Beer, Pope
brother Beer, because he's like suddenly swept into one of
the bigger controversies here, which is whether or not his
brother from Chicago as a Cubs fan or a White

(10:57):
Sox fan, which became an issue yesterday.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
What about the family members who are not Catholic? How
are they dealing with this? They'll be our anti religion,
They'll be.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
They'll be forgiven. And I'm sure that I don't know
if he's allowed to go home for Thanksgiving. I don't
think his mom is probably still but she might be.
He's sixty nine. Parents could absolutely still be alive. How

(11:32):
about that? Like, well, I suppose Bobby's not coming.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
For Thanksgiving and he's not even Bobby.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Right, That's why you couldn't do a Boston pope because
that mother wouldn't care. Bobby, You're coming for Thanksgiving? Nah My,
I can't. I'm the pope. Oh you think you're too
good for us? Now you're the pope. You just out
there being pope. You got time for everybody else, you
not for your own family, not for your own mother.

(12:01):
That's why you can't choose a guy from Boston to
be the pope.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Excellent, by the way, very well done, thank you.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
What's your Chicago accents? Kind of like it's pretty much
like my Boston accent. Duh, Pope, you know that's that's
oh I got so I don't know if he can
go back home. At some point, I guarantee you he
comes to Chicago, and man, is that going to be

(12:33):
quite the scene. I was in Denver when the Pope,
when Pope John Paul the Deuce was in Denver circa
nineteen ninety three, and it was mayhem like, Scott, you
went to go see the Pope. I thought you said

(12:53):
you weren't Catholic. No, I didn't even know he was
in Denver at the time. I was a teenager and
I was just going out there to goof around. And
then suddenly I was like, how come there's no hotel rooms?
Why is there so much more traffic than normal because
the Pope's in town. Oh, I guess I'll go home.

(13:14):
But it was crazy. I mean, for six hours around
Denver you couldn't get a hotel room because the Pope
is in Denver. And so when this man goes to Chicago, like.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
It's gonna be, they'll be renting rooms in Omah be crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
They probably will. They probably will. But I mentioned that
the whether he's a Cubs or a White Sox fan
came into play yesterday. I'll tell you how that went.
And his brother is talking. I'll tell you what he's saying. Next.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Scott Boardes News Radio eleven ten k FA.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Red, white, and blue smoke comes out of the Vatican.
There's an American pope. No one ever thought this would happen.
He's talking to my son this morning and taking him
to school, answering first his questions, well, why do I
have to go to school when my sister doesn't have
to go to school? Because your sister's last day of
school was yesterday. She's going to graduate. I think they're

(14:19):
gonna let her graduate here. But her year is over. Yeah,
but she hasn't graduated yet. How come my son get
in the car. We're going to school. So then we're
talking talk about basketball for a little bit, and then
we talked about the pope, and I said, do you
know when the last time they chose an American his
pope was? He said no, I said never, No one

(14:41):
ever thought this would happen. And then his brother is
sitting there watching it. John Prevost, he gets to keep
his name. Lucy turns on the TV calls his niece
and they watched as his brother's name, Robert Prevost, was

(15:01):
announced as the first American pope who would be taking
the name Pope Leo the fourteenth. And he's talking. He's
got his niece on the phone. She starts screaming, and
he says, I was in a moment of disbelief that
this couldn't be possible, because it's too far from what
we thought would happen. He told outside his home in

(15:22):
New Lenox, Illinois. He said about his brother, I have
intense pride, which is what you want to hear from
the brother of the pope. You don't want to have
the media go to the pope's brother and go, hey,
what do you think about what happened to your brother.
I wouldn't have chosen him that guy. First of all,
he'd never stay out of my room when we were kids.

(15:44):
So he said, it's quite an honor, and he says,
in quite a responsibility. And he's and here's what he said.
I think I get his meaning. But this is an
interesting quote when your brother's just been chosen pope. He says,
quote is quite a response ability. But I think it's
going to lead to bigger and better things. What big,

(16:06):
bigger and better.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
You get bigger and better than the pope what you're
maybe he meant for himself.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, I've I've got some it. You know where Billy
Carter had a beer, Roger Clinton had on his own
line of weed or whatever. I've got, I've got an app,
I got a game. It's an app that maybe I
think he meant bigger and better things in terms of
people coming to the church of on there on that

(16:36):
path we all walk with faith. I see some people
are way down the road and you think, well, I
can't catch up with them. I'm just gonna stop here.
That's not how it works. But some people do take
a pit stop on their walk with faith. Some people
have a hard time getting out of the starting block.
Some people think they're a good way down and then
they turn around and realize, oh, I barely even started.

(16:58):
It's all it's a walk with faith, and we're at
all at different levels of it. So I think he's
meaning for Americans. This might be something that gets him
to pay a bit more attention to the faith. M
He has two other brothers. In fact, he's the little brother.

(17:26):
Poplo is the youngest of three brothers. Right, So we
got John got uh Louis is it Lewis or Louis
Louis prima no prevost? He says, uh. He said, he

(17:47):
said it all hit home and it became real. I
couldn't believe it. And he's at his home. Uh oh,
this brother is in Florida. We might have a we
might have a situation here. This guy says, oh, that's
Rob And he said, oh my god, hey Rob, Hey Robbie.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
That's what his brother said.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah. And this man, the Florida brother says, yeah, he
always had that holy way about him. And he said
his neighbors used to tease him that, hey, you could
be pope someday. I wonder if they meant that as
a as a good thing just walking down the street,
just blessing dogs and malemen and imagine being the brother

(18:36):
of the pope. And then they had to ask the brother, hey,
is he a that's great. I know a lot of
people are wondering, like is he a Cubs fan or
is he more conservative? Is he more liberal? But we
want to know if he's a Cubs fan, because they
had a sign at Wrigley Field that said, hey, Chicago,
he's a Cubs fan. And then the brother said, actually,

(18:58):
we grew up on the South Side always supported the
White Sox, and they said, look, it's it's kind of
all in the family. Mom was a Cubs fan, but
the dad was a fan of the Saint Louis Cardinals.
Sounds like mom and dad are no longer with.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Us because they didn't agree on the teams.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, it's just because they passed. Because if he's the
youngest brother and all the other brothers are into their seventies,
mom and dad could still be with us, but they're not.
I'm just waiting for one of the guys coming out going,
Oh yeah, we used to call him stinky nuts. Yeah,
I can't believe he's pop Pope. Sninky nuts. How about that?
I can't believe it that guy's pope.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
When you got the two brothers and they go to
the man who still lives in the Chicago area and
he says, basically, his brother's saying, hi, hon hon he
you know, he's he's saying everything, right, I haven't hence pride.
It's quite an honor that our brother is the new pope.

(20:06):
And then you go to the guy in Florida and
he's like, oh, Hey, that's Rob. Hey, guys, take it
out on the TV. It's Rob Hey, Rob. Oh my god,
he's Rob.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Everyone always used to say, you're gonna.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Be pope.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
This, and he says, and they said, well, how often
do you talk to your brother? And this Florida brother says,
I talk to my brother two or three times a week.
But I guess I won't be able to see him
much now he's busy. Who gets a new job at
the age of sixty nine. That's like, this is gonna
take all of my time. Couldn't they have gotten a

(20:49):
kid fresh out of college to be the pope, you know,
someone fresh out of seminary or something like that.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Why but just you know, because any experience.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, but they've got you got that. I mean, I'm
forty eight years old. To some people, like my kids,
that's ancient. No one's ever been older than me. And
to some people like my parents, I'm still just a
kid and needed to be treated as such. Scott, stop

(21:21):
that chew with your mouth close like you can't tell
me what to do. I'm gonna I'm a man. Oh yeah,
you think you can take the old man? And then
we start, you know, that's how every Christmas goes at
my house. So I think, like now at my age,
if they said yeah completely at a left field Scott

(21:44):
Forhees has been named Pope, I would think like, when
am I going to sleep? I mean pope President. I
mean it's a different level of stress, but it's still
it's a twenty four to seven job. Now they're not
waking the pope up the middle of the night going, hey,
we might have to fire our nuclear missiles at Iran?

(22:05):
Do you want to wake up so you can handle this?
I mean, it's that's different. But still you look at
how a president ages four years into his term. And
I don't care which president, they all look I mean
even President Kennedy after four well after almost four years,

(22:25):
he uh, he looked older every year. Sorry, it was
a bad example. President Clinton relatively young guy, and uh
President George. President George W. Bush had obviously in his
first term he had a lot to deal with. He

(22:46):
looked like he'd aged twenty five years in his first
four years in office.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
The women too.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
President Obama did too. Suddenly he started going gray, started
walking around with a walker with the tennis balls on
the front. You know, he started off like shooting hoops
and uh and all that fun stuff, and then he
had a walker with tennis. Blot of people don't know
that President Biden actually died a few months into office,
and they still allowed him to be president. I mean

(23:15):
that's you age a lot and you're the pope. Like
what I mean if they come to you and say, hey, congratulations,
you did it. You're the pope, They're like, oh, okay,
now what do I do? Well? What do you do?

(23:36):
How many languages can you speak? We're gonna need all
of them? Uh speak American and a little bit of French. Pooh,
Like I how what? What does? What do you do?
At what point can you indulge yourself and say.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
You know, those days are over.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I don't mean like that, No, but you you now
have full I'm gonna tell you if you let me talk,
no one ever lets me talk on this show. No,
don't leave. Lucy just left. Oh she came back. No,
I mean you indulge yourself to say there are rooms
within the Vatican, there are files within the Vatican, there

(24:21):
are places within the Vatican that only a very select
couple of people can see. It's like being president. I mean,
you can't be sworn in and then go someone take
me to Area fifty one. I have to see what's
going on there. Well you could, you could, but you

(24:41):
gotta play it cool. Right. You get sworn in as
president and suddenly it's all right, well, we got a
lot of work to do and we gotta do this,
we gotta do that. No, do that? Do I have
any time next Tuesday? You know, you've you've got you like,
you've gotta indulge that that morbid curiosity, like what's what's

(25:03):
in that room? And this is the Vatican. It's huge.
It's an incredibly huge compound and I don't know how
deep the various basement levels go there, but they've got
all kinds of all kinds of stuff in there. And
at some point you're gonna be like, uh, someone just
follow me with the big janitor key ring and we're

(25:24):
just gonna go see what's in all these rooms.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Okay, but somebody knows that. Somebody knows what's in every room, right,
So yeah, there's somebody that knows more than the pope. Right.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, you've got some of the Swiss Guard that would
have a good idea, but they wouldn't go in there
unless they had a purpose, and you can't just as
a you know, a visitor. You're in there in some
America wearing some big stupid hat and flip flops, going hey,
what's in this room? You know they're not gonna let
you in. But the pope like, haven't you even this
building We've been in for decades and decades, this radio station.

(26:00):
Haven't you ever gone exploring every nook and cranny of
this radio station, opened all the closet doors up there,
gone down in the basement, checked everything out? Because I have.
I suppose it took me. I don't think I did
it on my first day here, but within the first
few days I'm like, I'm going exploring.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
That's kind of a guy thing, it is. That's kind
of a guy thing.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Ye, well, the pope's kind of a guy. Yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
What if they would have had a woman pope?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
They didn't that that was probably a slightly less likely
thing to happen than an American pope, But who knows?
Who knows for the future. Here's some emails Scott at
kfab dot com. Uh, Scooter says, Scott, who are you

(26:59):
trying to kid? Your pope name would be Sir golf Salot. Yeah,
that's probably true. Well I said earlier, like when they say, okay,
you're the pope, what's your pope name? Like, I didn't
know I had to have a pope name ready to go.
I didn't know I was going to be pope. I
thought I walk out and walk in Bobby and walk
out Bobby. Now I got to choose a pope name,

(27:19):
Pope Flavor, Flavor. I don't know what what are my options?
Let's see here. Then this email on signed says Scott,
this should come as a surprise to no one with
an American pope. Really think about who is visiting in
the last two weeks, none other than the prime minister

(27:41):
or leader of Italy to America. Well yeah, but the
prime Minister of Italy doesn't choose the pope. And I
know Vice President A Vance was just over there meeting
with Pope Francis and then killed him. That's what some
people online said. And I believe everything I read on Twitter.
So they're saying, oh, they made an American pope so
the tariffs would go away on Italy. I don't think

(28:03):
the Vatican or the Church is real concern about the
about the tariffs.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I think there's a reason why it's an American pope,
but I don't. But I know, I list.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Like Lucy has a conspiracy theory.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
You you have never had an American pope, right, right,
So why all of a sudden now.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Because he was the right person. Okay, Okay, that's that's
that's it. Doug says. Maybe it's just me, but every
time I hear the name Leo, I immediately think of
the teenage mutant n JA Turtles. Well, I suppose if
he's if he said, what do you want to do?
Is pope? I want to have some pizza? Then maybe
in the cell Sewers and Charles where they live, Yes,

(28:52):
they live in the sewers and Charles says. Every time
I call him by his name, Robert Charles says, I
can't believe you're dead naming the pope.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Oh, I haven't heard that term in a while.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
He's right, though, Yeah, Well, I don't want to be
accused of dead naming. I don't want to be accused
of being disrespectful. But this isn't I don't think this is.
I don't know. Some people are just not gonna like
this on many levels. But We're gonna do it because
I've had an opportunity in my radio career now three

(29:27):
times to do this song. And we're gonna do it live,
and Lucy, you can sing along if you want.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
I was just gonna ask, no, wait a minute, I
can say no, right, I don't have to be a
part of this.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
We're doing it live. Let's give it a shot. Here.
I just scribbled out some new lyrics to it. Here's
an update of the Pope. On a sunny spring evening,
I was sitting at the fad can, waiting on the
conclete watch him for the smoke. O crowd was staring

(30:02):
at the roof of the chapel, hoping for the signal
that they've chosen the new pope.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
My son, I'd spend a lifetime listening to the pontiffs.
Oh Francis was a good one, help millions see the lights.
But who will succeed him?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
And when will they announce it? When the smoke came
out the chimney, this time the smoke was white. They
have chose in the new pope out with the old pope.
They chosen the next guy who talks straight to God.
You bear the count your blessings. The new Pope bears

(30:47):
a coming rush up on the gin, inflecting the conclave
is done. I wonder if he's more conservative Abril, or
whether he's a Cubs fan or cheers for the White Socks.
But the Catholics seem happy see him dancing in America,

(31:11):
singing glory, Hallelujah. The Pope is one of us. They
have chose in a new pope, out with the old Pope.
Dave chose in the next guy who talks straight to God.
You bet a count your blessings. The new Pope is

(31:32):
a come here, rush up on the gin, reflecting the
conclave is done. They have chose in the new pop
out with the old Pope, chosen the next guy who
talks straight to God. You bet a count your blessings.

(31:53):
The new Pope is a come he rush up on
the chain, reflect in the conclave is dumb.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Scott for News Radio eleven ten k FA.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Lucy, you want to go see Hamilton tonight. It's still
playing at the Orphium here, It's still easy. It is
only just begun. It's run of Terror at the Orpheum Theater.
If you're not familiar, Hamilton is the story of Alexander Hamilton.
I've heard that it was America's I mean, one of
the founding fathers who didn't get as much attention as

(32:29):
everyone else for his secretary of the treasurer treasury and
and and a lot of people don't know this. He
and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson and all the rest
of those guys were black. So uh they put this
show on stage. More on that in a second. Let
me first say, well, I don't know, Maybe we'll talk it.

(32:52):
What do you want to hear first the fact that
the well no, because I want to go a different
way here. Sorry, let's start this whole thing over. Lucy Scott,
I saw Hamilton last night, did you yes?

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Did you enjoy it?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well? I saw Hamilton years ago and I didn't enjoy it.
I didn't get it.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
See, you thought you would try again.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Let me tell you why I thought i'd try again. Okay,
Because my wife loves Hamilton.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Okay, Now that's a good reason.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Now she is a huge hypocrite, as well as most
other especially women who say they love Hamilton. Hamilton. The
reason that some people go, I don't get it is
like it's it's interesting in that It's tells the story
of Alexander Hamilton, but all the actors on stage are

(33:45):
black and they're rapping, which none of that was real
popular back in the seventeen seventies and eighties and nineties.
Being a black hip hop artist was not a exactly
real It wasn't something you saw a lot of, especially

(34:06):
during the Revolutionary War, the first meeting of the Congress
developing the Constitution. It wasn't like, hey, well, we're going
to get together the greatest minds of our time, George Washington,
Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Flavor Flave. You know, we're going

(34:26):
to get the biggest. So it wasn't real. It wasn't
something you saw a lot of. So I'm watching this
years ago when it first came to Omaha, and I
didn't get it. And then the next day I kind
of woke up and said, all right, I think I
get it.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Wait after you thought about it for a while.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, after I thought about it a while, I think
I get it. Here's And then going to see it
again last night with this renewed like, okay, Here's. I
don't know if this is the reason behind it, but
this was my epiphany on Hamilton. The Founding Fathers of
their day were kind of like the gangster rappers of

(35:07):
today in that you would have these these great oratory
debates and sometimes someone gets shot. Now, with the Founding Fathers,
it was debates at Constitution Hall or out in the streets.
Today it might be rap battles, and at the end
in both instances sometimes someone has to get shot. So

(35:31):
it's it's very similar to what they did then versus
that culture today. So to put it through the lens
of today's hip hop culture, gangster rap culture, I think
it's a very interesting way of doing And I don't
know if that's what the author, Lynn Manuel Miranda had
in mind when he did all of it. Maybe he
just gotten some bad asset. I don't know, But having

(35:56):
heard the music at least once, I had a better
appreciation for it. Last night and Emory Songer tried to
call me out because we were having a little bit
of this conversation. He was there last night and we
had a little of this conversation. He says, is the
reason you didn't like Hamilton because it's rap music and
you can't understand rap music. Has he met you, I said, son,

(36:21):
you better back up, came up with rap music. Coming
up as a white kid on the hard scrabble, concrete
jungle streets of Rawson, Nebraska, you had to be mad
spitting to survive. Don't you know about my role in
p WA, people with attitudes? It mostly white kids. We

(36:45):
had one black guy in the group, so we were
legit and we were doing NWA songs with cleaned up
lyrics in case our mom our moms came to one
of the shows. I was EASYV.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
I didn't know that, not easy E. You've never shared
that story on the air, EASYV.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
And Yeah, our big goal we wanted to actually go
and do some shows in front of people, But our
bigger goal was to go to West Roads and go
into one of those jewelry stores and get like the
rings that go across all your knuckles with your name
spelled out on it, and if you had a longer name,
you could do it on both knuckles. Then you bring

(37:20):
your fist together and it spells out your name. That's
that's really what we really really wanted. Now we didn't
end up. We didn't well. The fear of genuinely getting
our butts whooped on a regular basis probably stopped us,
but we did. We did a lot of run throughs.

(37:40):
It was fun. Uh So. In other words, ny I think,
when you think of the great rap artists of our time,
you got to throw my name in. I don't mean
to brag here, but you got to throw my name
in for consideration, which brings me to my wife and

(38:03):
a whole legion. I'm not calling my wife old. I'll
wait later this year when she turns fifty. I'm not
calling my wife old. But it is astonishing to me
all these old white women who go see Hamilton and
they come out of there going, oh, Martha, isn't it amazing?

(38:24):
I mean, wasn't the music just great? I haven't heard
rhymes like that since we went to Rap Fest ninety one.
Remember Cool Mo d that night? He was mad spitting yeo, Lois, Lois,
do you remember when we went to that rap festival
and saw Public Enemy and ll Cool Jay. I mean,

(38:45):
that was some of the greatest days. I love the
hip hop culture and I listened to it all the time,
and this is just this is right up my alley.
All this music a bunch of liars. These are not
only these old white women who never ever would listen
to rap music who probably spent most of their adult
lives going I don't understand that. I don't like it.
It's just a bunch of noise. Then they go see

(39:07):
Hamilton they're like, oh, Betty, this is so good? Isn't
this good? Isn't this so good? You know why they
say it because they think it makes them look cool
and hip. They don't like the music.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Who among us hasn't done something like that.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
I do it all the time. I'm valiantly trying to
stay hip, cool and relevant.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
So you know, let them have their moment.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
I mean when I say on the radio like I
hear air Supplies coming back to town and I can't wait,
that is a vain attempt to try and stay cool
and young and hip and relevant and be, you know,
with what the kids are into.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
So I think you're missing the mark. But it's okay,
really yeah, a little bit. You might be a little
bit off, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
It gave me some other time. So these old white
women say that they love the music from Hamilton are
not only hypocrites, they're hip hopocrites.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Mind blown? Did you foully come up with that?

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Here's when I came up with it. Last night. Driving home,
I had the nineties channel on, I had the volume
turned down. My wife and I were talking about the
show and suddenly I look at the radio and what's
on but hip hop paray by Naughty by Nature, great
rap anthem of the early nineties. And she was talking

(40:39):
about how great she thought the music was. I said, oh, hey,
your music is on, you know, hip hop paray, Ho,
hey ho, And I'm cranking it and looking at her, going,
this is about the same volume we were listening to.
No one else was in the room where it happens,
and I'm not going to miss my shot in all

(41:00):
the songs of Hamilton. Is this is it? You want
to listen to this? I got lots more on my phone.
I got so much rap music on my phone. Every
time it comes on, you're like, oh, can we listen
to something else? But apparently you love Hamilton. You're all
about rap music and this is your jam, right, And
she just looked at me. She's like, I should have

(41:21):
listened to my mother before I married you. And that's
when I said, you and all the other people who say,
isn't the music of Hamilton great? When you don't listen
to any other rap music. You're not only hypocrites, you're
hip hopocrites.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Mike Drop, you need to patent that or whatever you
need to do to copyright it. You need to hold
onto that one.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Now people hear me say that and they think, like, oh,
you didn't like Hamilton. I didn't like it before. I
enjoyed it a lot more last night. I think it's
something that I need. I needed to see twice now.
I wasn't unless my wife, because my wife loved it

(42:07):
and she really wanted to go. If she hadn't, then
I probably wouldn't have seen it again. But I'm so
glad that I did. There are some characters in that
show that are so good. Of course, everyone loves the King.
The King character, who's I think just about the only
white person in the cast, is so funny. But my

(42:29):
favorite character is the guy who plays He plays Lafayette
in the first half and then Thomas Jefferson in the
second half. He's so good. My favorite song on the
whole show is his song. It's part of what opens
up the second act where Thomas Jefferson just shows up
after the Revolutionary War because he was in France, like
all the rest of these guys are fighting the British

(42:52):
and some of them are dying, and all around Thomas
Jefferson's hanging out in France, and he shows up and
he does this little Richard type song called what I
Miss and it's so over the top hilarious. And that actor,
along with the actor who plays Madison, are going to
be on Emery Songer's show this afternoon. So listen to
every minute of Emory Show today and if you have

(43:13):
to miss it, it'll be posted on the Emery Songer
podcast link. Oh but I didn't even tell you about
yet what happened during the show last night, because there
was some additional noise that transpired during Hamilton last night.
I'll tell you about that next.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Scott Goes, come on Man Make News Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
You're number one preset on our free Iheard Radio app
so when severe weather strikes, we're just a click away.
There's a little old school rap for all those Hamilton
fans who say I love the music from Hamilton. Shattle
back to when I heard you on the RADI. Oh,
I just don't know what made you forget that I

(43:59):
was raw, But now I got a new tour. Is
this I mean, this is what? This is what? Yeah?
Some of it is yeah, some of Hamilton music is
very much like that. And it's just it's shocking to
me that there's a bunch of old white women. There

(44:19):
are people of all demographics who fall into this category,
but I think mostly it's old white women who say, oh,
I just love the music from Hamilton. And if they
turned on kfa B while I was doing LL Cool
Jay's mama said knock you out, they'd be like, I
do not like this, you know, but they love you.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Should get an old white woman on here.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
No words need to be spoken. Don't leave, don't leave.
There was a look in a gesture exchange there. That's
what you miss in a more auditory sense. So I
at Hamilton last night and it was I think the
second number done by the King, which was the best

(45:10):
time for this to happen because it was around the
time where the whole audience is singing along with this one.
It's such a fun number, and suddenly I'm listening to
it and I'm hearing a very recognizable sound and I think,
is that coming from the orchestra. It's not completely off,

(45:33):
it's not completely atonal with the rest of the song.
But I'm definitely hearing a sound that I completely recognize.
And it happened during one of the louder numbers with
the audience all singing along, and then it was it
was it was silenced. But my wife looked into her
purse and she showed me her screen and I said,

(45:55):
I knew it. I knew that sound. It was the
loud beeping of an emergency alert that comes across your smartphone.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Yeah, and you only heard it on her phone. So
nobody else in the audience had this.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
No, No, several people in the audience. Now what I
don't know about the emergency tones even if you have
your phone silenced. I think it probably depends on the
settings on your phone as to whether, even if your
phone is on silent, whether that emergency tone will come through,
because obviously it's an emergency. The emergency last night there

(46:32):
at the Orpheum Theater was just down the just up
the street and over a block or two at about
nineteenth in Jones Streets. There was a man walking around
with a gun and then police came up and said, sir,
we have questions, and then there was a standoff that
happened for about two hours, and it started around seven.

(47:01):
The show started at seven point thirty. I don't know
why it waited until it was probably just after eight
when things were really kind of like, we don't know
which way this is going or whatever. Then the alert
sounded there and it took a couple of hours. They
brought in a crisis negotiator, a mental health professional was
on the scene, and eventually the man surrendered and was

(47:22):
taken into custody without further incident, which is under investigation
as to what the heck that guy was doing. But
phones went off people in the Orphium because that's when
the alert went out, saying, hey, if you're in the
area of around like nineteenth and Jones, nineteenth and Elevenworth
and that little stretch of streets and downtown Omaha, you've
got to not be in that area. There's a big

(47:43):
police presence, there's a man with a gun. We don't
know what's happening, but if you could just stay out
of that. So of course, people at the Orphium now
they're all talking to each other. Is there someone who's
trying to get in the orphium? Is the one hundred
and ten year old security guard at the front door
of the orphum going to be able to take care

(48:05):
of this. I wouldn't put it pasting to do it.
I'm just saying so there, I mean, there was, there was.
I mean the tittering of the people there in attendance
at Hamilton last night was was loud for the next
few minutes, and then I guess everyone just turned their
phones off and went on about their night. It went off,

(48:25):
as far as the show goes, at the perfect time,
like one of the louder numbers. If it had gone
off during one of Eliza's torch songs, that would have
been awful, though. I was really curious as to what
she would do about it.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
I'm really kind of at a loss here that an
alert went out for a situation just a couple of
blocks away and nobody panicked, Nobody got up, nobody.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
No, we were in a safe area. There's plenty of security.
Security at the Orpheum. The first guy, the first guy
you see when you come in there might be a
bit of a veteran of life, but there's other There
was other security there. But I did notice an intermission
which was after that, that there did seem to be

(49:14):
a few more law enforcement members around the area, so
police law enforcement, they all did the right thing. That
was good to see. But you're right, no one, no
one stood up in the middle of the orpheumous and
everybody run, which is good. It also shows you how

(49:34):
good the show was because if I if I had
been hating Hamilton, which I kind of did the last
time I saw it, because but I I enjoyed it
last night. I needed I needed to see it twice.
I'm not saying everyone needs to see it twice again.
I say I for me, I needed that second show,

(49:55):
and I'm like, Okay, I'm enjoying this a lot more.
But if I had been enjoying it, I'd have been
the first person to stand up. Everybody run, I grab
my wife and go where are we going to the car?
We're going home. This is terrible. There have been some
shows where I would have done that, but not last night.
In case you're wondering, Scott, did your phone go off?

(50:17):
I have the emergency alerts on my phone turned off
and I did that years ago after that alert went
off all across Omaha during the floods of two thousand.
No before that, like twenty eleven, there was one night,
like three o'clock in the morning where there was additional
flood water coming into downtown Omaha. I'm asleep at my home,

(50:43):
but twelve miles away in West Omaha, bee phone goes off.
I hit the ceiling, checking the thing. You're trying to
figure out what's going on. Your eyes are all blearing.
You see this alert on your phone flood, and I'm like, everyone,
get out of the house.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
It's fly.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Oh wait a minut. What's flooding. There's no flood. There's
no flood that's gonna come into this street or into
this bedroom. Not even Mike, flood is coming in here.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
You're saying you turned off a vitally important way to
get messages.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yes, I did because of one because I don't want
to be inconvenienced by something I can't do anything about.
If this happens during the day, there are lots of
ways I get notifications about breaking news. If it happens
in the middle of the night, like there's a flood
or there's an amber alert, they're not here, They're not
in my room. Trust me, I said, it's true, and

(51:43):
therefore it's true. You don't even have to look. They're
not here. The flood's not gonna get me. There's no
amber alert, like person in my bedroom. I'm just sleeping.
I'll deal with it later, and if it's like an
air raid or something like that, just let me get
those last few pres just minutes of sleep.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Scott Boys Mornings, nine to eleven, Our News Radio eleven
ten kfab