Another Assassination Attempt

I guess there's too much free speech coming from that threat to democracy, so he needs to be stopped.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott VORDIEZ.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
You know, it's a tragedy when a guy can't even
go out and golf with Sean Hannity on a Sunday afternoon,
whether or not the golf course bears his name. He
was lining up a birdie putt on the I'm going
to give do we give Trump the benefit of the
doubt and say that he's playing the tips at Trump
International West Palm Beach near mar A Lago. I'm going

(00:24):
to put him on the second set of teas, which
is certainly no slouch. It's a very tough golf course.
So he's on the par three one hundred and seventy
yard fifth hole at Trump International. And that's when on
the hole ahead the sixth hole, the three hundred and
eleven short par four to sixth at Trump International. Yes,

(00:48):
I had to look this up my memory, right, And
I have to say that in case my wife is listening, going,
you can't remember things that we did three days ago,
but you remember the hole by hole on a golf
course you played five years ago. The truth is I
kind of can, but and I can remember what shot
I hit and how I managed to screw up a

(01:09):
good t shot and all the rest of it. But
so he's he's lining up a birdie put on the
par three and up ahead on the short par four,
hears popping sounds and that's when the Secret Service tackles him. Now,
his first thought was, as is the thought for every
golfer when they hear something going on in the whole ahead,

(01:32):
it's always the same thought, what are they doing up there?
And is this gonna slow me up? Trump plays very fast,
He's a very busy man. He takes time to play golf,
and that's a very important thing. And yes, I said
that when Obama was president, people like he plays a
lot of golf. Good for a couple of reasons. Number one,

(01:55):
it means less pen and a phone executive orders. And
number two, you need some time to be alb go out,
get some fresh air, clear your head a little bit.
You can get a lot of business deals done on
the golf course. I'm a big proponent. So he's probably thinking,
what are they doing up there? And that's when the

(02:15):
Secret Service jumps on him and they whisked him away.
As he's probably thinking, And he said this later in
the day, he said, I was even through four holes.
That mean he had made a combination of pars and
birdies and bogies to be even par through four holes,
and he had a birdie putt, and I wanted to

(02:38):
finish the hole. That is what Sean Hannity said that
Trump said afterwards, because Trump was out there playing with
Sean Hannity and a real estate developer guy named Steve Whitkoff.

(03:00):
And it's not clear whether the popping of the guns
was the suspect trying to shoot at the former president.
Truth be told, I can't remember exactly, and I don't
know where he was on that hole. I haven't seen
all that, but he probably close enough because a lot
of these guys, certainly from a quarter mile away, a

(03:25):
half mile away, someone who's trained and has the proper
equipment and has got a shooting stance could hit a
target like this, no problem, no problem. So what we
hear is is that he's on the green on the
fifth hole and up ahead, somewhere down in the bushes

(03:45):
off the sixth hole ahead. That's when the Secret Service
is going a hole ahead just to make sure everything
is okay, Things like are there any people who've managed
to wander onto the golf course? Are is the group
ahead at a proper maintaining of their pace of play

(04:08):
to where Trump's not coming up on other golfers, and
not just for pace of play reasons, but also security reasons.
The President tends to hit his drive two hundred and
thirty seven yards up the right side is this area
free of divots, whereas ball might be in the fairway,
but in a divot. There's just really nothing worse than that.

(04:31):
Got to clear and you know, smooth everything out, fill
some sand in, and that's when they see a muzzle
from a rifle coming out from the bushes. They fired shots.
He took off and left in an suv and they

(04:54):
stopped him later and they arrested him. And they said
that when we arrested him, there was nothing when they
arrested him in terms of, hey guys, what's going on.
He didn't even try and pass it off, like, I
don't know why you guys are interested in me. I'm
just out here for a drive. I don't have what
happened to the president. Oh my gosh, I had no idea.

(05:15):
He didn't even try any of that stuff. They pulled
him over. He acted like, yep, I figured this would happen.
They put him in the back of the car, and
the picture we see here from the local law enforcement
there in Palm Beach is he's in the back of
the cop car before they shut the door. He's smiling.
He's got a very satisfied, smug, smiling look in his face.

(05:40):
Now back at that scene, he leaves behind what is
always going to be described by the media as an
AK or an ar style rifle. These are specific brand names,
but they want you to think that these things are very,
very scary and no one should be allowed to have them.

(06:00):
The truth is there are several varieties of rifle. When's
my commercial for d guns? You want to see various
varieties of you know ar, I mean, it's it's so laughable.
Pick your favorite. Pick your favorite, like four door sedan,
the Ford Taurus and okay, so there you got a

(06:23):
four door sedan. There are a lot of different Ford
door sedans out that. I'm not saying it's my favorite.
I'm just picking one. So you got a lot of
different four door sedans out there. But it's been decided
that this particular four door sedan is dangerous and people
shouldn't be able to drive it. So then someone gets
in a car accident or does something in a Toyota

(06:44):
Camry and the media will say a Ford Taurus style
car was used in the incident. That's how dumb this is.
So the media is gonna, of course say it was
an AR and an AK style rifle. So he leaves
behind a rifle a scope so he can see from

(07:05):
a distance away, in lineup a couple of backpacks. What
I heard was in the backpacks was ceramic tile, like
he was going to wear this as body armor, anticipating
getting in a shootout with the Secret Service and a
go pro camera ostensibly, so he made sure he filmed

(07:29):
himself and everyone could see the shot he got off
where he took out the former president of the United
States who might be the future president of the United States,
which also brings in another interesting angle. So this guy
felt like he needed to stop the threat to democracy
that was Donald Trump. I don't know if he'd picked

(07:49):
up a newspaper or flipped on some cable news over
the last week or so, but Kamala Harris has this
in the bag pulls even in read Iowa. I heard
a report today that Kamala Harris was closing the gap
with Trump. And Iowa. So all he has to do
is turn on the news, like, well, Trump's a threat
to democracy. He's a vile, horrible, criminal human being, and

(08:13):
he must be stopped. If he gets into president, Project
twenty twenty five is going to be enacted and there
won't be any future left for this country. I thought
these people hated this country. But you know, all he
ever hears is the vilification and lying about who this
guy is. What he would do forgetting He's fifty eight
years old, This shoot would be shooter. He lived through

(08:35):
four years of Trump? How bad was it? Anyway? If
he just turned on the news here in the last
week or so, all he'd hear was, Oh, Trump's got
no chance at this zero chance. So why did he
feel the need to go out and try and kill
the guy. Maybe he doesn't believe the polls either. I

(08:55):
don't know. But he had a go pro camera so
we could film himself getting the show. This was in
his little nest there. Now, some people have criticized what
they felt was a lack of security at the golf course.
You know, the Republican nominee for the presidency is out there,

(09:19):
a former president. There should be more security this guy
should have never been able to get to the position
where he was. I'll tell you my perspective on that,
having been at that golf course when Donald Trump was
there as President of the United States. I'll tell you
what security looks like and what it doesn't look like. Next,
Scott Dave email Scott atkfab dot com and says, just

(09:42):
before the birdie putts on the fifth hole, there Trump
is saying, surely the good Lord would never disrupt the
best game of my life. And then Dave gave himself
a ding. There's your eighties movie reference for this segment
to the radio program. Now, Lucy, before you just blurt

(10:02):
out something so dumb it causes me to question life itself.
We're talking. We're talking about an eighties movie involving golf.
You've got this. This is a this is a tap
in Birdie putt. You can do it? What movie? Caddy
Shack radfart, Yes, it is Caddy Shack.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
I almost said Happy Gilmour, but I didn't want you
to lose your mind.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I know, I wondered if you were going to try
and cause my head to explode. Tin cup, tin cuffs
a movie I don't quote enough on the show Nice
par Dave probably about it. So I've played Trump International
golf Course in West Palm Beach, Florida, which is often

(10:46):
kind of commonly referred to as mar A Lago. Mar
A Lago is the area. It's a large, sprawling resort.
We're at the resort. They have a golf course called
Trump International. Because every golf course the name Trump in it.
People ask me like, where's your red hat? Where's your
Trump hat? I do have a Trump hat. It's a

(11:07):
red hat. It doesn't say make America great again. It
says Trump. And that is a that's a golf course hat.
My blue friends find that to be a difference that
they feel there is no real difference between the Trump
make America Great Again hat or the Trump golf hat.

(11:29):
And I don't care, but a distinction without a difference
what they would call that. So I've I played that
golf course. How I still don't know. I knew a
guy who knew a guy who knew a guy and
over Thanksgiving and I don't remember what year. I want
to say twenty eighteen, it might have been seventeen. I

(11:51):
don't know. My buddy said, do you want to we
have a spot for you if you want to go,
If you can get yourself to West Palm Beach, Florida,
We're all going to go. I know a guy who
knows a guy who says that we can play Trump
International on this date, and the President is scheduled to
be there, and I'm like, you had me at golf,

(12:15):
let's go. So we go down there. I had thanksgiving
up my family and then left that night and went
to went to West Palm Beach to play golf at
Trump International Golf Course. We didn't know if the President
was going to be there. But here's what I can

(12:35):
say about the security there, because a lot of people
have said, like, can't believe this guy was able to
set up essentially a sniper's nest in the trees off
of one of the holes on the golf course. First
of all, golf course is a big property, and there
are a lot of trees on golf course properties, deep

(12:58):
woods in some instances, heavy marshy areas. I would say
that Trump doesn't have the mar al we'll just call
it mar A Lago. Mar Alago doesn't really have a
lot of marshy areas, but there's plenty of places where
if you can find some sneaky way to get into
the golf course, and it's not impossible. Any golf course,

(13:18):
there's places you can hide. Clearly, people were playing that
golf course all day, all morning yesterday, and they didn't
notice this guy had set up a sniper's nest in there,
which means someone didn't hook or push one into the
deep woods and go looking for it, which would have
been awkward for everybody involved, Like, oh sorry, I didn't

(13:39):
realize he'd set up a sniper's nest here. I'm looking
for a titleist and the guy's like, oh yeah, sorry,
let me move my guns. Titleists too, black dot, Yep,
that's it. Mind if I play through here. I just
need a line through. If you could just move your
backpacks full of ceramic tile for your shootout with the
Secret Service later, I'm just trying to get back into
play here. No reason to make one bad shot turn

(14:01):
into two bad shots, right, I'm just gonna take my
medicine and get it. So this guy is set up
in there. Regarding the security at Trump International, by the way,
the end of my story is the President was there
playing with the PGA Tour Professional and we had a
chance to meet both those guys. And my favorite interaction

(14:21):
was Eric Trump, one of his sons, was there and
I just had him on my radio show the week
before and I said, oh hey, Eric Scott vorhees Kfab
Radio on Omaha. We just talked the other day. He's like, yeah, yeah,
what are you doing here? And I said, same as you.
I'm here to play golf. And he's like, okay, have fun.

(14:43):
To get onto the property, there are a few different
levels of security you go through, but it's not and
then when you're on the property, like you'll be out there.
We were on one nine and Trump was on the other.
When you're out there, you'll notice not like overly, it's

(15:05):
not like you being in a military zone. But you'll
look and you'll look over in the trees and you'll think,
did I just see someone over there? And you look
a little closer and you realize, oh, there is a
guy in there. There's a guy's station in there, not
a forecaddy to help you find an errant t shot.
That's security. Same thing around the clubhouse. There's security everywhere,

(15:30):
but it's not guys with long guns and military fatigues
and all the rest of this stuff. And the reason
for that is is Trump is not the only member
of Trump International Golf Club. They have lots of members there.
Some of them are Trump supporters. I can't imagine. There

(15:51):
might be some people who hate Trump's guts and would
never vote for him, but they're like, it's a really
really good golf course and it happened to be where
I live down here, so I just play there and
see him and grit my teeth and go, oh Trump,
you know, but it's really really good golf course. But
I imagine that Trump knows a lot of people around there,

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and he not only wants himself to be able to
walk freely around the property, he wants the members and
their guests to not be overwhelmed by the security of
constantly having to be wanded and going through metal detectors
as you walk to the sixteenth tea box and all
the rest of this stuff. So security is present, it's

(16:34):
not overwhelming, or at least it doesn't look like it's overwhelming,
but it's there. There's a presence. Now, that doesn't mean
that twenty four to seven, you've got people stationed at
every single part of the golf course to where a
guy can't sneak in in the I don't know, middle
of the night, the middle of the night on Thursday.

(16:55):
I don't know how long he was there, but I
can tell you he didn't like park in the parking
lot and then just walk over to the I'm going
to pick the sixth hole. This was someplace where he
was able to sneak in at some point, probably in
the middle of the night. So the way that the

(17:15):
Secret Service operates is like if Trump were in Omaha today,
you wouldn't have a Secret Service agent with you while
you're having breakfast at your dinette. But if the President
were suddenly coming along your house, like maybe going door
to door, the Secret Service would show up before the
President gets there, just before he gets there, and they

(17:37):
do a sweep of the house. Same thing with the
golf course. You're not going to have a bunch of
people stationed all over the but as the president is moving,
there is what the experts call a bubble around the president.
And that bubble includes a hole ahead, a hole behind,
or any adjoining Like if you're going down this whole

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but the other hole comes back the other way, then
you have people within a so many one hundred you know,
five hundred yard radius around the president, and that's why
they were up there sweeping the hole ahead to make
sure there wasn't a sniper in the bushes. Now, I
imagine that Trump has probably thought more than once. I
don't know why they have so much security out here.

(18:20):
There's a lot of security. I'm just out here playing golf.
Who's gonna take up a position and try and take
a shot at me? Is this a little too much security? Well,
he realized yesterday if he'd ever had that thought, and
he probably hasn't had that thought much since what happened
in Pennsylvania this summer, but he realized yesterday this is
why they do what they do, and they're very good

(18:42):
at it. Someone who wasn't committed to his job would
have just scanned, you know, the hole from four hundred
yards away and said, it looks fine, just like it
looked yesterday when he was out here playing, and last
weekend and three weeks ago. It always looks fine. It's
a short part four sick hole. You've got some trees
over here and water over here, and I don't remember

(19:04):
if there's water on that hole, sand trap. You know,
it's a golf hole is some of the fanciest people
in the world are out here. Why am I out
here scanning? You know, like, wait a second, is that
someone with a gun in the bush. If this guy
hadn't done his job the way he was supposed to,
if he had just gotten lack of days ago, the
president would have been shot yesterday and he would have

(19:25):
been killed. And this is a very different situation than
what happened in Pennsylvania. It begs the question, then, why
did this guy feel the need to do it? Still?
Was it that continued? He's a threat to democracy? Was

(19:48):
it all the people, whether joking or serious, saying now,
it's too bad that guy missed in Pennsylvania this July?
Or is this guy just razy? Is he just futs?
There's a longer phrase, but I probably shouldn't stay on
the radio. But is he just futs? Kevin emails Scott

(20:12):
at kfab dot com and the Zonkers custom Woods inbox says,
I don't know if you saw this or not, Scott,
but I saw a photo of the shooter right after
this happened, and he was sitting inside a Sizzlers ding.
I love when people give themselves a ding on that
thank you, Kevin, nicely done. There's your nineties golf comedy

(20:36):
movie reference for this segment of the radio program.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Oh, it's got to be happy, It's.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Got to be happy.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
Only one.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, that's the guy who's following Gilmour around going. You
will not make this putt, you know, cause Shooter says,
if you do this for me, then I'll take you
to sizzlers. We're going to scissors, are aren't we?

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Shooter?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
So good? All right? Uh ah? The late Joe Flaherty.
We just lost that guy. He played the heckler. So
I told you about being at Trump International Golf Course,
mar A Lago extensively, and how yes, well, I've given
two hours to talk. I intend to fill the time.
I enjoyed the story that was. I didn't even tell

(21:25):
you all the details about it.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Then you need to keep going.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
I didn't tell you about my conversation with Trump that day.
Wait what it includes it? The story doesn't work unless
I include the bad words he said about Ben Sass.
The story falls a little flat unless I can completely
use the language that Trump used. He was not impressed

(21:48):
with Senator Sass at the time, and he let us
know the funniest thing about talking to Trump was all right,
here's my little bit of the Trump converse. You know,
he's walking up to me, and and probably because I
realized and I stationed myself here where I'm not because

(22:10):
he's walking towards me, like, I wonder what this guy is.
He looks cool, Let me go talk to him. I
was posted up directly between where he was and where
I knew he was going, so he had to walk
right towards me. It's not like he So I'm thinking,
I'm about to talk to the president of the United States.

(22:31):
What am I going to say? What am I going
to ask him? So I chose the only thing that
a guy playing a golf course would say. I said,
mister President, it's a pleasure to meet you. I've never
played this course before. Do you have any tips for me?
Because I knew he would be excited to talk about
that and question, yeah, as a golfer. So now he's

(22:55):
talking in front of you, and he's doing all the
stuff with his hands like he does at Trumps out
here and doing this and all this stuff. He's like, oh,
great golf course. You're never going to find a better
golf course. Frankly, best golf course. You're gonna love this
golf course. A beautiful golf course. A lot of people
think they have good golf courses. None of the golf
courses are as good as our as Frankly, it's a

(23:17):
great golf course. And he's moving his hands and I'm like,
he's doing an impression of Donald Trump and he's nailing it.
And he's standing in front of him. You're like, he's
a big guy, taller than me. He's a big guy.
So there's a little bit of the Trump story. But
to get to that point, and even at that moment,

(23:39):
because I had already been through some security to get it.
First of all, I didn't even go at the first
of all background check before I get a T time there.
And it's not like you just call up to get
a T time there. But I had to do it.
I had to get a Secret Service FBI background check.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
How can they do it that fast?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
This was weeks in advance.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Oh wow, so OK, so this is yes.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, So I was an expected guest and still had
to go through some levels of security. But it wasn't overwhelming.
Because Trump wants the other members at Trump National or International.
I think at Palm Beach, and he wants their guests
to feel comfortable because it's a very nice country club,

(24:25):
and it's not going to be a nice country club
if people feel like they're under a bunch of oppressive
security when they go in there. You know, they don't
want to feel like they're going into North Korea. They
want to go and have a nice time and be
able to associate, just as you would when you're playing
at Oak Hills Country Club here in Omaha. Just a nice, fun,
friendly atmosphere, and there's a layer of security there that

(24:48):
you don't always see, but it's very present. That's why
the Secret Service was on the sixth hole while the
President was on the fifth hole, and they saw the
guy posted up there in the bushes, and people say, well,
they need to have more security. That is what more
security looks like. It's impressive they were able to do

(25:09):
this because, like I said, if that Secret Service agent,
just like he'd done for the previous five holes, just
went like what am I looking for? I mean, there's
no one out here. I've done this a million times.
There's no one out here. He didn't think like that,
would you be able to do that? So many of us.

(25:30):
Go through the job, just go through the motions, just like,
get me to eleven o'clock and get me out of it.
Not that I've ever thought that. So what do we
know about the would be assassin? Fifty eight year old
guy who spent much of his life in North Carolina
and apparently lives in Hawaii now when he's not in Kiev,
Because in twenty twenty two he's going on social media

(25:52):
saying I'm willing to fight and die for Ukraine. He
traveled to Ukraine as a self styled John Rambo military
recruiter and one man Russian wrecking crew. He positioned himself
as a bit of a diplomat for the United States.
He is no diplomat. He is in no official capacity.

(26:15):
He's about as much of a diplomat as your mom.
Unless your mom is an official diplomat, then that doesn't
make any sense. But he did an interview with the
New York Times last year where he was passing himself
off as you know, this guy trying to recruit Americans
to go to Ukraine to fight the Russians, And you're like,

(26:36):
what kind of weirdo does that? Nebraska State Senator Tom
Brewer does stuff like that. So this guy is not
completely alone. But what I don't know about him, Like
whereas Tom Brewer, he's been to that area before. He's
a military brigadier general. I believe his title, and I apologize,

(26:59):
I believe generals when he retired, So he's high ranking
career military. This guy, I don't I'm double checking all
this stuff here and unless I miss something, I don't
think you ever served in the military. I don't know
what caused him to care so much about the Ukrainian

(27:20):
cause that he was traveling there and trying to work
as a military recruiter and go out there and fight Russians.
But it was just the next phase of his life.
It's been a while, twenty two years, but in two
thousand and two, this guy was charged in North Carolina
with carrying a concealed weapon possession of a weapon of

(27:42):
mass destruction. What's that in this case a fully automatic
machine gun and barricaded himself in a local business when
police tried to make a traffic stop. Oh now we're
starting to get a little picture of this guy. He is,
and I have to use because some people were like,

(28:04):
what did you why'd you say the guy was futs.
This guy is and this is a law enforcement designation.
I don't know if it's in the full mental health
evaluation handbooks, but he is what we would call knuckin' futs.
This guy, he's got a little bit of guano on

(28:26):
the brain. So they tried to make a traffic stop.
He thought he'd better run from the cops and barricade
himself in a local business. That was in two thousand
and two. In about nineteen ninety two, he was lauded
as a super citizen by the local police union in Greensboro,
North Carolina, because he helped defend a woman against someone

(28:50):
who was trying to attack her. And now I'm wondering
if that would be attacker was him. I stopped myself
from attacking her. Where is my ribbon? Where is my laurel? Yeah?
So after that he was a roofing contractor well there
you go. Yeah. No, And then and then he was

(29:13):
he began building what's referred to as inexpensive public housing.
Those are the tiny houses for the homeless, like converted
like basically a storage shed. You can put your lawnmower
or a family of five in there. And then and
then several years ago, he moved to Hawaii and then
he's been active on social media and political causes. He

(29:36):
is supported and donated to candidates like Beto O'Rourke and
Andrew Yang. And he says he wrote in twenty twenty
that Trump. He says, you were my choice in twenty sixteen,
and I and the world hoped that President Trump would

(29:56):
be different and better than the candidate. But we were
all great disappointed, and it seems you're getting worse and devolving.
I will be glad when you were gone. I suspected
that people felt he meant from the White House. I
don't believe this guy for a second when he says
I voted for Trump in twenty sixteen, at the same

(30:18):
time donating to Bato O'Rourke, later Andrew Yang. He supported
Tulci Gabbard, a Democrat who left the party essentially and
now supports Trump. Now. The media talked to his son
after yesterday. I'll tell you what he said about dear

(30:40):
old dad after Sean Callahan has a Husker Buzz extra
for US next.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Scott Fortes News Radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
So, the would be assassin in Florida has an adult
son named Oran and Oran talked to CNN after this
happened yesterday and says, I don't know what has happened
in Florida, and I hope things have just been blown
out of proportion because from the little I've heard, it
doesn't sound like the man I know to do anything crazy,

(31:10):
much less violent. Again, this is the same guy who
twenty years ago was subject to a traffic stop and
felt like it'd be a good idea to take a
fully automatic machine gun and barricade himself in a local business,
and he decided to go to Ukraine. What did his
dad say or what did his son say about dad
going to Ukraine At the time, he talked to the

(31:32):
Guardian and said, my dad went over there and he
saw people blanking, fighting and dying. He tried to make
sure stuff was cool and stuff was not cool. I
changed a few words in there, so three profane words
in there. He said his dad went to Ukraine to
make sure stuff was cool and stuff was not cool.

(31:54):
So I don't know that this guy is the correct
barometer to use as to whether or not Dad would
do something crazy or violent. He hopes things were just
blown out of proportion. He said, yeah, you know, everytime
my dad gets caught with a in a sniper's nest
around political figure, it's probably just blown out of proportion.

(32:16):
We've lost another member of the Jackson Five. Tito Jackson
has passed away. Tito Jackson not just immortalized as a
member of that incredibly popular and talented ragtag group of
kids from Gary, Indiana, but also he was the subject
of the Eddie Murphy line in I think this was

(32:39):
in Delirious. Eddie is singing She's out of My Life
by Michael Jackson, and he's just going to keep singing
it until everyone in the crowd, including Michael, is crying.
He's singing She's out of my life. And I don't
know whether to laugh hard cry and he's crying and
all this, and then Eddie Murphy as Michael Jackson, says, Tito,

(33:04):
get me some tissue on the great lines, one of
the great lines and one of the best comedy specials
of all time. So I hear Tito Jackson has passed away,
and immediately think, Tito gave me some tissue. That's fantastic,
or poor Tito.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
He's note of the vodka.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
No, not Tito's. Tito's is still in existence, but Tito
Jackson and in case you're like the second member of
the Jackson five, who who was the first? Who's the
other one? Michael? Oh yeah, kind of thought of him
as separate from those guys.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Well, it's easy to understand that.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, in the zonk Yeah, in the Zonker's custom was
inbox first of all. Brian clarifies, Oh, yeah, Colonel Tom Brewer.
I was trying to remember what military rank did State
Senator Tom Brewer have, As far as I'm concerned, the
designation and the title of State Senator. Trump's any military designation,
and colonel pales in comparison to being elected to serving

(34:06):
this unicameral and make twelve thousand dollars a year. So
that's why I had a hard time getting past that title,
to remember that lowly rank of colonel compared with state senator.
You're fluent in sarcasm, right, So thank you Brian for that. Yeah,
I knew that he's even in my phone as Colonel
Tom Brewer. I don't. Sometimes my mouth moves and my

(34:29):
brain is in the car.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
How old are you.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Forty seven? I'm almost forty eight.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, it's showing, I know.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Here's the email from Greg that I referenced a few
minutes ago. Greg's asking the question that maybe you've wondered.
You don't obviously want to ask anything like this out loud,
but Greg's asking it. He says, good morning, Scott. Two

(35:03):
questions come to mind this morning, especially after just hearing
on your radio station and ad for the Kamala Harris
for President campaign continuing to call Donald Trump a threat
to democracy. That he would be a dictator. He would
have this crazy, unlimited, unchecked power thanks to his Supreme

(35:26):
Court that he put into power. I'm now expanding upon
Greg's email a little bit here, but this is what
Greg's saying here. He'd be this dictator and a revenge monger.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Wait, Greg is saying this or are you saying that?

Speaker 2 (35:39):
I'll read Greg's words as he says them. A just
hearing a Harris ad calling Trump a threat would be
dictator and revenge monger. If an assassination attempt against Trump
is successful, then how and who becomes the Republican nominee? Now?

(36:06):
The second question he asks is could Kamala Harris, the
DNC and related campaigns be held liable on a wrongful
death lawsuit? That I imagine Trump's family would bring I I
don't think so, because Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are

(36:26):
a little different. Now. If if I'm on the radio
every day saying Lucy Chapman's a threat to democracy and
must be stopped, and something terrible happens to Lucy, it's
a little different because we're not even by virtue of
being on this radio station. I don't think that we
qualify as public figures, not like the presidential contenders. But

(36:50):
you can just about say anything about them, and we do.
But you know, I noticed that as Kamala Harris did
put out a statement after this would be a second.
This guy didn't get a chance. It seems to fire
a shot directly at the president if he fired at all.

(37:12):
But Kamala Harris said, I'm glad he is safe. Violence
has no place in America. Wow, can't you just immerse
yourself in the sympathy here? There are two people right now,
I know there are two people right now who currently
know what it feels like to be under this pressure

(37:33):
cooker of running for president of the United States. One
survived in an assassination attempt this summer in Pennsylvania, and yesterday,
while playing golf four hundred yards away from him as
a guy of the sniper's nest. Again, he had a rifle,
a scope, and two backpacks which, as I understand it,

(37:56):
were full of ceramic tiles, meaning I'm going to wear
this is like makeshift body armor for when I get
involved in a shootout. And he had a go pro
camera ostensibly to make sure that the world could see
from his vantage point him firing the shot to stop
this threat to democracy before he enactd Project twenty twenty

(38:19):
five and has this unchecked dictator like power that has
been inculcated here from his Supreme Court. So, Kamala Harris,
at least you know say what they do about each other.
I would think there's some level of humanity that would

(38:40):
have to be present, And she tweets, I am glad
he is safe. Violence has no place in America. But
did you did you use AI to help you write
that I am glad he is safe?

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Now, I think that could have been that would have
been better.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Violence has no place in America. And I'm gonna I
didn't forget about and I'm going to answer his first
question here.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
But I'm curious that after she said all of this
that he is going to be a dictator, just going
back a little bit, that he's going to be a
dictator if he's She does realize that at one point
he was president, right, yeah, she, I wasn't sure if she.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
This election is tilted on and it's not impossible to
look at it this way, considering how and this only
you and mean and very smart, intelligent people listening to
this radio station right now, right okay, considering how dumb
so many people in the American public are. Not y'all,
not you, you're good, but there you know you you

(39:41):
go out for a drive around this town, this country,
and you're like, wow, all these people are so dumb.
So this election is tilted upon playing into the dumb
to make sure that the electorate has a real bad
case of the dumbs. To forget Number one, that Trump
did serve as president for four years and all the

(40:03):
stuff that like, well, he's gonna do this in his
next four years, Like it's funny. He didn't do any
of this stuff during the four years he was president,
not even close. But you're gonna have to suppress that
and also try and forget that Kamala Harris has been
part of the Biden Harris administration for the last four

(40:24):
years and try and weigh out, like, so what happened
here with inflation and how everything just kind of in
the border and Russia invading Ukraine and China engaging in
basically war footing in you know, around the areas where
American military installations currently exist. And again Russia getting buddy

(40:50):
buddy with Iran and Syria and North Korea and China.
You know, it doesn't all look that great. You're gonna
have to forget all of that, and that Kamala Harris
is here at the you know, right there with President
Joe Biden. Oh yeah, great leader. I tell you what,
when that guy walks into the room, you can feel
the energy. This guy is sharp as a tech. No
one sharper than Joe Biden. He's going to be a

(41:11):
great president for at least four more years. So you're
gonna have to forget all of that and the fact
that Trump's already been president and go vote with a
real bad case of the dumbs. That's what this election
is really all about. So Greg asked the question, if
an assassination attempt against Trump is successful, who becomes the

(41:36):
Republican nominee and how well, there's two things that could happen.
The first part is the relatively easy part, based on
what we just saw happen on the Democratic side. Biden
decides all by himself, not through any kind of pressure.
He just wakes up one Saturday and says, you know what.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
I want to be Republican.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Yeah, I would have put on a Trump hat. We
all kind of glossed over that last week, didn't we.
So did you see that? By the way, someone handed
Biden a hat and he put it on without looking
at it, and for a moment there was wearing a
Trump No.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
No, if you look at the whole video, he knew
exactly what he was doing. Yes, he knew exactly what
he was doing, and still at it in his hand
as he walked onto Ara. Not air Force yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, air Force one. Really, I didn't see the whole video.
I figured, I know.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
He knew exactly what it was, did he?

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Well, I mean, I know, okay, all right, all right?
So in scenario number one, Biden leaves the ticket, and
the delegates at their national convention decide to vote for
and then certify the nomination for Kamala Harris to represent
the Democrats as president. This was done before the convention

(42:56):
and before all of the states certified their ballots. That's
usually done by Labor Day today is Monday, September sixteenth,
Most if not all states now, I mean Nebraska was
right up against it this weekend. So most if not
all states have certified their ballots and the Republican National

(43:18):
Convention has already happened. Remember hal Cogan ripped his shirt off.
It was a good time, good party, Milwaukee, Milliwaukee. So
to Greg's question, if something were to have happened to
Trump yesterday, who becomes the Republican nominee and how well
the easier path that the Democrats just took, that's obviously out.

(43:44):
So there would be a special meeting of the Republican
National Committee, this group that the RNC would then vote
to fill the vacancy at the top of the ticket.
This allows for a minimum of sixteen members of the
RNC from sixteen separate states to that would have to

(44:09):
be done first to have the meeting, which if something
happened to Trump would be a given, but then the
party to fill the vacancy at the top of the ticket.
I don't know if it's majority or super majority, but
it would be this special cabal of RNC members from
a variety of different states to then fill the vacancy
at the top of the ticket. A. It's not a given, like, oh, well,

(44:33):
it just goes to jd Vance. That's not a given
unless the RNC got together and voted to make jd
Vance the Republican nominee for the presidency, which I don't
think they would. But I'm not speculating on this because
I feel it's going to happen. I certainly don't want
it to happen. But you have to address these things

(44:54):
as a possibility based on what's happening right now, and
it's worth at least speculating, like what happens if they
would have to choose who that person is. But see,
here's the other thing. The states have already certified their ballots.
Any attempt by the Republicans to change the ballots in

(45:15):
all these states would probably be met with the legal
challenge of the Democrats going oh no, no, no, you can't.
So the American people, I believe, Greg this is the
answer to your question. If something happened to Trump. Let's
just say, for purposes of trying to keep this on
the up and up. Trump decides, you know what, I

(45:38):
don't want to be president anymore. I'm out. Jerry, So
he decides in't want to run. R NC gets together,
they meet, they decide we want Tulsea Gabbard to be
the Republican nominee for the presidency. The people would still
have to go in November and vote for the ticket

(45:59):
of Trump vance, because that's what's on the certified ballance.
They'd have to go vote for Trump, who's not on
the ticket anymore, but he's still on the ballot, and
then if he wins, then, as I understand it, then
the RNC process of well, Trump's out, so here's our
nominee and that person will be sworn in as the

(46:21):
next president.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
So nobody would vote for a primary candidate across the board.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yes, and the Democrats seem to be okay with it.
So what are they going to do? Like, how are
they going to legally challenge this? Like, hey, you can't
do what we just did. But obviously obviously, let's hope
we don't have to seriously have this conversation. Now. One

(46:56):
thing we like to do on this radio show is
try on shoes explain how it relates to this topic
and what I mean by that phrase. If you haven't
heard me use it before, I'll do that next to.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Scott Bodes there you Know It News Radio eleven ten KFAB.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
This email to Scott at kfab dot com says, Dear Scott,
Kamala makes some important points in her ad, especially when
it comes to Trump seeking revenge. He wants to do
to we Democrats what we Democrats did to him, and
we just can't let that happen. Signed Karen Whitey mcmddle
aged liberal white woman face. Signed also, it's a small

(47:33):
price to pay for the change we need. That's the I.
I'd like to believe that that's a real email. It
might not be, but it still is from Karen Whitey
mc middle aged white woman face.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
Oh the name is sure correct and real. It's hard
to tell what's real and I know what's fake anymore.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
I know I like to try on shoes on this show,
and by that I mean put myself in someone's shoes
based on their experience that I couldn't even dream of.
So in this case, let's put on Trump's shoes. He's
probably a size fourteen or fifteen like I said, big guy,
so you probably got some room. It's going to be

(48:19):
a little little room in the toe box on this.
But when you try on Trump's shoes, what's your public
schedule look like today? Are you going to do it?
How many people would say what am I doing? I'm
either at a rally with my supporters in a political arena,
like what happens all the time, whether it's the presidential contenders, senate,

(48:45):
congressional governor. I mean, there are people running for state
senate right now having these town hall meetings and all
this stuff with a lot less security than me. And
I've had a bullet whiz by nick my ear and
kill a guy behind me. Then I'm out playing golf,
lining up a birdie putt on the par three to
fifth hole and on the short par four to six

(49:06):
hole in front of me, there's a guy three hundred
and seventy eight yards from me in approximation, the official
word is between three and five hundred yards, Like, don't
you have a laser finder? You can? So I got
a guy three hundred and seventy eight yards from me
with a high powered rifle and a scope waiting for
me to get into a position where he can take

(49:28):
a good clear shot and get it on his go
pro so he can show the world what I did.
I'm out here playing golf with Sean Hannity, and I'm
not even safe quote unquote. Now he's safe in that
the Secret Service got this guy. But that's because the

(49:51):
agents had to suppress the monotony of their job of
going a hole ahead or scanning within five hundred yard
as the president to make sure someone wasn't hiding in
the bushes. They do this every time he plays golf,
every time they've ever done it. They look at a
hole and go, well, here we are at the sixth hole.

(50:13):
Let me do this correctly. Secret Service agent is stepping
up there, going hello, friends, We're here at the sixth hole.
It's a short driveable part four if you have the
length to get there. Some will just be laying up
with a five iron off the tegue. Give him nothing

(50:34):
but maybe a wedge, a gap wedge into this tough
green breaks a little left to right, but the pen
is set up there in a bit of a bowl,
so it should give you with two solid shots a
good look at birdie on this sixth hole. Before we
move into a tough part of the golf course. I'm
a secret Service agent sweeping this hole. I see a

(50:54):
fairway down the middle, slight dog leg left at a bunker,
and reach off the tee, just to give you enough
to think about with that tea shot heavily guarded green
water hazard to the right, tree area to the left.
It's the same thing I look at every time I
go look at a golf course, wondering if there's someone
on this short par four six hole who wants to

(51:17):
assassinate the President of the United States. I do this
eighteen holes in a row, and I've done it every
single weekend. But they've met last several years. Never find
anything in there. So occasionally the beer cart girl's coming
in a little hot on that cart. You're like, whoaahoa,

(51:38):
let's slow it down. The President is on the property.
But as I look up here, I see a quartering
breeze fifteen to eighteen miles per hour and rustling in
the bushes. Off to my left, I see a potential
muzzle sticking out of the trees here on the left

(51:59):
hand side of the course that could present an issue
for the man about to tee off. Here on this
whole I'm gonna go and investigate and make sure it's
not something that I need to do. I mean sorry,
I don't mean I'm stopping myself from doing that because

(52:20):
people are like, are you making comedy bits out of
a potential assassination. No, I'm trying to underscore a point
that out there on that golf course, it's one of
the most beautiful pieces of property I've ever been on.
And I've been to Council Bluffs lots of times, so

(52:41):
I think I know what I'm talking about. It's one
of the most beautiful pieces of property ever. And it'd
be so easy to get swept up in how peaceful
and serene and beautiful and green the flowers out there.
Everything's so well manicured. And you've already on this so
many different times. There's never been a sniper in the bushes.

(53:04):
And if you just let down your guard and just
allow yourself to be like, how long do I have
to be out here today? I'm hungry. I wish I
had a ham sandwich. Then Donald Trump's dead. This secret
Service agent overcame any thoughts of potential monotony to stop

(53:24):
this threat, and that is incredibly impressive. That's what should
be celebrated above all else today. In fact, let's read
Kamala Harris's tweet about it. Quote, I am glad he
is safe. Violence has no place in America. See you

(53:44):
can feel the concern and the empathy pouring forth, can't you. Lucy.
We've been covering from I think just about every single angle.
If I've missed one, tell me the second assassination attempt
on Donald Trump here just in the last few months.
I didn't want to monopolize the entire conversation or miss

(54:07):
out on asking you how your weekend was. Did you
have a nice weekend?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
I did?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
How was yours? I was time fine, thank you. I
wasn't looking for the I was like, well, what what
made it so nice?

Speaker 3 (54:20):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Nothing, It's very rare you get a weekend of nothing.
I'm glad that you were able to do that.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Yeah it was. It was great. Went on Friday night
for the food bank, of course. Yeah, of course, collected
some good We had an amazing turnout. Goodcted lots of
food for that. And then I spent the weekend just
gonna watch on TV and stuff cool football. I watched football.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
No you didn't, I did, though, No, you didn't, I
really did you watch?

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I watched the LSU game and I told mister Chapman,
I said, they're going to win this game. You watch
and he said, there's a lot of time left. I said,
they're going to win this game. And guess what they did?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
They did come back and what did they play? South Carolina? Yes,
I had that on for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
I was I was sorry spoiler alert or somebody that.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
I had occasion to be up in Minneapolis and managed
to work in some golf while I was up there.
So I spent all weekend, really and only the second
time I've really spent any time in Minnesota. In Minneapolis
are up and around there in the Twin Cities, and

(55:29):
it's really cool town still And yeah it is, and
you'd be surprised at how many Trump signs are there.
And I wonder if it's just because there are some
people who are like, I'm going to make a real
big show, and I think it's the same idea that
has the blue Dot situation here in Omaha. Like I

(55:49):
feel like I'm surrounded by conservatives, so I want to
make a real big show that I'm a Harris supporter,
I'm a Blue dot here in Nebraska. I think it's
the politically opposite but the same idea. If you put
a Trump sign out there in Minneapolis, you're telling your
neighbors like, look, I know many of you feel like,

(56:12):
if you're slightly conservative, that you're alone here. You're not
red dot.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
But did they give you a pass because you were
from Nebraska?

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I don't know. I didn't. I didn't ask for a pass.
My I did. Someone did send me a kfab listener
emailed Scott at kfab dot com and said, here's the uh,
the antithesis of the blue dot. And it's a redsh
almost slightly orange dot with a little wisp of yellow

(56:43):
hair coming off the side, kind of a like a
a big comb over like hair style. That's so definitive
it only exists for one guy and this, so that's
it kind of kind of supposed to look like Trump.
And that's that's funny. So we're talking about the political
rhetoric and everything, Well, how are people supposed to react

(57:10):
to this? So he's a threat to democracy? You know,
when just this is enough to make people cry at
their desks at work.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Yeah, what's this about?

Speaker 2 (57:22):
This is a story from the Nebraska examiner, and it
goes to an organization here in the state called the
Nebraska State Historical Society. Have you ever heard of this group? I? Yeah,
I mean you feel like yeah, I mean yeah, I
mean because.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
This you know, buildings that have been torn down that.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, you hear that name, and right right, So I
didn't really know that we had a Nebraska State Historical Society,
and I didn't know that the director this person has
just been hired as interim director. Guess how much she
makes per.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Year m Historically it would be yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
I wouldn't think yeah, I wouldn't think it'd be a
big job.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
I wouldn't think it's a primary job.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
One hundred thirty six, four hundred and forty nine dollars
a year. I'm like, what to do?

Speaker 3 (58:11):
What?

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Well, here's the other thing, though, There had been a
guy who was hired recently and has been there for
a few years. Well, he just got fired. He faces
felony charges for misappropriation of funds and if again faces anyway,
he's out. Well, he'd fired twice. This woman who is

(58:35):
now back in the agency and serving at the governor's pleasure,
serving as the interim director of the Nebraska State Historical Society.
So what is she doing while she's in there. Well,
one of the things that she says, the story here
from the Nebraska Examiner is that this previous director, it
felt like he used the or the state office as

(59:00):
platform to tilt too far towards marginalized groups, deciding that
this is the history you need to know, and we're
going to try and fit it into the political and
social values of what's going on today, and basically saying
it went really woke, it went way too far left.

(59:21):
And she says the State Historical Society cannot be all
right and it can't be all left. We got to
be down the middle. We got to present both sides. So,
as she says, and also like this guy had cut
down public visiting hours, which had been daily to a
couple of hours one morning a week. Come in here

(59:43):
and see the thing, get out.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
You know, visiting hours.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Just what the public public visiting hours to come in
and see the history. I don't, I don't even I don't,
I don't know. But she says that this guy took
it way too far left and we're going to bring
it back to the middle. Well, someone who I think

(01:00:06):
also wants this job as director. Is also talking to
the Nebraska Examiner and says six staffers have left in
recent weeks and a complaint was filed about her her
management style. She says, I've found staff crying at their
desks and I've cried at my desk about what. Well.

(01:00:33):
In one meeting, she told this person like, look, you're
going to have to do better. Actually, we're actually expecting
you to rise to this level of work and accomplishment.
And apparently this is causing people to cry and quit.
Maybe they shouldn't have been there in the first place.

(01:00:55):
I don't know, but I'm looking at this woman and
I'm not saying that she's sixty seven years old. I'm
not saying like she's old, you know, I'm definitely, but
she kind of looks like grandmotherly but also like like
a firm but fair teacher that you might find in
a fifth grade classroom to be like, look, we're gonna

(01:01:19):
you know, we want to have a good time here,
but that's within the boundaries of what's expected from you
in terms of behavior and output of doing your best work.
Firm but fair, and she looks like the kind of
person that says, look, let's let's do the work here.
And this has got I It's hard for me not
to assume the young staff hired by this left leaning

(01:01:42):
progressive director, who are like, all right, come in here
and present all of your work about how awful the
state of Nebraska has been to marginalized groups. And now
she said, we're not going to do that anymore. But
you know, I am. I don't know for sure, but
I imagine you know, so something when something like that

(01:02:04):
has got people reduced to what do you think is
gonna happen when you got the potential next president of
the United States saying Trump's a dictator, He's gonna have
unchecked power due to his Supreme Court project twenty twenty five,
and he's a threat to democracy. How are people supposed
to react when the fact that you're gonna literally have

(01:02:26):
people have this conversation with you when you when they
come up to you and go, what day is today?
What's Monday? Like, No, it's not. How dare you like?
I don't I don't know what to tell you right now, man,
we just fall apart of the drop of a hat, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Well, there are some.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Some of it's kind of fun to watch headline from
the Babylon b the satirical news website. Media as sure
as Americans. The real threat is the side that keeps
getting shot at. That's just perfect. I don't know how
much of MSNBC or CNN you've seen since yesterday when

(01:03:04):
the Secret Service got a guy who was set up
camp in the bushes at a golf course try and
take out Donald Trump. But the media is just saying
a lot of stuff like, well, you know, maybe Trump
will try and tamp down that rhetoric that has inflamed
things so much that it's Trump's fault. Trump certainly has

(01:03:31):
made his comments. He's the one getting shot at for speech.
He's a threat to democracy. A big part of what
America is is freedom of speech. So because we don't
want America to change, we need to kill that guy
for the speech that he's making.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
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