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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vordiez, Nebraska Republican incumbent senator seeking re election. On
November fifth, Senator Dev Fisher joins us here, and it's
great to have you back. On eleven ten, kfab Senator, good.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Morning, Good morning, Scott, how are you good?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Time is limited in the space between your and your
opponent's campaign ads, so let's get right to it here.
Republicans outnumber Democrats nearly two to one in Nebraska. No
one is thinking Kamala Harris is going to beat Donald
Trump in the state's popular vote. He beat Biden by
nineteen four years ago. Six years ago, you won with
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nearly fifty eight percent support. The numbers suggest this race
against independent candidate Dan Osborne shouldn't be close. Do you
feel it's as close as some poles say?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I feel good about the race. You know. I'm looking
at working every single day, getting out there and visiting
with Nebraskans like I have during my lative time in
the Nebraska Legislature and also during my time in the Senate.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
And yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Feel good about the polls that we have. It is
a close race. Not the numbers that my opponent keeps
putting up with his online polls that he does. But
we have some good numbers, and I think Nebraska's when
they learn more about who Dan Osborne is and where
he stands on issues, they can't support him. He's too
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far left. If you remember, in the May primary, I
was the biggest vote getter as a Republican statewide. I
had more votes from Donald Trump, I had more votes
and my good friend Pete Ricketts. So I feel good
about it, and I know that we have support all
across the state.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
In order for this race to be closed, you will
either have to have people who previously voted for you
vote for Dan Osborne or just stay home. Do you
feel like you've lost any support?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
No, I don't, you know. I feel good as I said,
and our numbers are good on that Republicans understand who
I am. They understand what's at stake. With a Senate majority,
we need to make sure that we have a Republican
majority in the United States Senate. I have the endorsement
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and the support of President Trump. But my gosh, Tom
Osborne did a great radio commercial for me that he wrote,
so yeah, I feel good. Good endorsements from firefighters, law enforcements,
farm groups, railroaders, carpenters, electrical contractors. So I feel really good.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
We have a report here yesterday in News Nation that
the Senate Leadership Fund for Republicans is spending three million
dollars to boost you here in the final days and
weeks of this campaign. And a report here in the
News Nation says, quote this has prompted finger pointing on
the right, mostly at Fisher for not taking the challenge
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seriously unquote. What do you say to that?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Oh, I haven't heard that from my colleagues at all.
You know, we've for the last two years have set
up our campaign, hired campaign manager, hired staff.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
We've been to.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Every county almost three times now. We had our county
chairman set up eighteen months ago, garnered as I said,
wonderful endorsements across the state, with over one thousand elected
officials have endorsed and been on board for twelve to
eighteen months. Fundraising was good, but what we saw, obviously
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was in September Dan Osborne started receiving millions of dollars
from out of state. We had a good amount of
funding already banked, but my gosh, I've had what close
fifteen million dollars in attack ads against me. Of course,
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then we had to get out there and try and
raise more money. And my colleagues have stepped in on that.
They understand the importance of this race when you can
have somebody call themselves an independent, somebody who has no
record of public service, no record of a voting record,
to really hold them accountable, and then receive millions in
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funding from Kamala Harris's based from Democrats, from Act Blue,
from George Source billionaires in a red state that doesn't
have too expensive of an ad buy. That doesn't bode
well for some of my colleagues in the future in
two years from red states, and so yes, my colleagues
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have been very supportive and stepping forward and making sure
that we show that Nebraska's red state, Iowa and South
Dakota and Kansas or red states, and it's not going
to be easy for Democrats to try and fool Nebraskas
or fool other states kind it get there in the future.
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So yeah, my colleague has been aware of what's going
on here and stepped up to help, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
We'll talk about some of that out of state funding
at ten thirty five this morning when Dan Osborne joins
the program right now, just a couple more minutes with
Senator Deb Fisher here on news Radio eleven ten kfab
Let's talk about characterization in these ads. His or some
of these political action committee ads paint you as out
of touch, gotten rich off the backs of taxpayers during
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your time in government, and you don't hold town halls
and you broke your promise on you serve two terms
and then term limit yourself out to this characterization, you
would respond, how.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Beloney, you know this is a Democrat playbook. My gosh,
and I am all over the state. You guys know
that if you follow Facebook or any social media, you
see that we're out and I'm doing my job too.
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In fact, I'm in the car right now. We're driving
up to Omaha. I've got a two hour meeting at
the Med Center and Omaha with university leadership, so we
can continue to plan on how I can help them
at the Med Center with appropriations, with grants, with some
language in legislation. So now we're out, We're talking to
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folks and listening, and I look forward to continuing to
be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
This is the twenty year anniversary four of your first
political race when you ran for the Nebraska Legislature in
the fighting forty third district out by Valentine. If you
now could talk to you, then would you still encourage
yourself to get into this dirty world of politics?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
You know?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
My parents were just fantastic examples for me. My mom
was an elementary school teacher. My dad worked for the
Department of Roads. They believed in serving their communities, whether
it was through Boy Scouts or campfire girls. They were
Ppa presidents for a couple of years at Randolph Elementary
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School in Lincoln, worked hard at our church. They were
great examples for myself and my two brothers, And yes,
I would do it again because it's I think, no
matter where people find their find their niss to be
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able to serve their communit unities, to serve their neighbors,
we need to see people like that step forward and
be able to roll up your sleeves and get to work.
So my parents were great examples. They always encouraged me
in whatever I wanted to do, whether it was my
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years on the school board in Valentine or my mom
when I ran for legislature. My dad had passed already,
but yeah, It's just something that I had the best
examples in the world to follow.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Senator, as always, appreciate your time this morning. Good luck
on November fifth.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Thank you, Scott.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I here on news Radio eleven ten KFAB. Welcome back
to the program. Independent Senate candidate Dan Osborne, Dan, welcome
back to news Radio eleven ten KFAB.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, thanks, Gott, good to talk to you again.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, we've got limited time here, so we'll get right
to it. When you and I have talked in the past,
you've certainly given a lot of different thoughts as to
why you would be an attractive candidate to Republicans as
well as Democrats. On both fronts, you've said you don't
want the help of Democrats. One of the Democratic Senatorial
campaign committee chairs came to Omaha the other day, hope
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to meet with you. You blew him off. But you've
been on a call with deep pocketed Democratic donors from
New York. You have support from liberal packs like retired
career politicians. Fox News has a report linking them to
George Soros, the liberal money man. It raises the question
of if you're elected with which party are you going
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to caucus. Some suggest it'll be hard to bite the
hand that funds you by not caucusing with the Democrats
and siding with them more often than not.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, well, my average donation is forty dollars, and as
you actually look at it, I have more donors in
Nebraska than deb Fisher. My team looked into it, and
my team looked into the other deal. I'm not getting
money from that guy. You know. As far as the
independent expenditures go, I got no control over that. We
all know that, and certainly Senator Fisher's got no control
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over her. So arguing about independent expenditures is a kind
of a moot point for me. But you know, George
Norris was the last independent senator from Nebraska. He did
not cauc us with anybody his last term. I want
to challenge the system because I think the system needs
to be challenged. Dem Fisher called us a political science experiment,
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and that's exactly what we are, you know, But so
is the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the
United States. So you know, I'm interested in getting the
government back to the people and the corporation influence on
our elections. Yea.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I talked to Senator Fisher earlier in the program about
how the numbers certainly work out in the favor of
a Republican. Trump won Nebraska four years ago against Biden
by nineteen points. What is it about you that you
think makes you an attractive enough candidate to potential Trump
voters to potentially take the Senate race in Nebraska.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
You know, I was talking to a Vietnam veteran in Fremont, Nebraska,
and he was a staunch Republican and he told me.
He goes, well, I'm going to vote for you. And
I'm like, why didn't even tell you what I stand for?
And he goes, well, you know you were you signed
up to. You signed on the dotted line to serve
your country in the United States Navy. I did it
again with the nebrask Army National Guard to serve as
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the state. And he said, anybody who's willing to do that,
he knows that they love this country. And I do,
and I want to do what's right by people, and
that's why I'm doing this.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Your ads say we need to close the border, but
her ads feature you saying about illegal immigrants quote, give
them a damn Social Security card unquote. So which way
are you leaning on that issue?
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah? You know, Senator Fisher's been there for twelve years.
She's gotten nothing done. It's gotten worse, and she doesn't
do anything because she takes money from the meat packers
who want a completely open border because they can exploit
the labor pay next to nothing. But we need a
secure border, we need stricter asylum laws, and we're going
to have to deport people, plain and simple. But we
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got to fix the immigration process. That's where I.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Stand on it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Who needs to pick and twist my words all they want,
But you heard it from me.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Well, what were you saying at the time when you
said give them a damn social Security card? Who is
m in that quote?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, I was talking about the people who have been
here twenty thirty years that are they're our friends, there
are neighbors. You know, they haven't broken any laws. I
was talking about the immigration systems broken. They need to
get in front of a judge and get some status.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
That's what I was talking about regarding Senator Fisher. I
had heard a story here recently, and I've seen things
like this happen about there was a family who there
was a flood that damaged their apartment this year and
they had to move from the first to the third floor.
They didn't have the resources, but they made a couple
of phone calls. Someone knew someone who said, well, I
know a group of guys that can come out there
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with strong backs and help with this. They ended up
being young staff members from Senator Dev Fisher's office, the
ones that you recently characterized as hitler youth. What have
you seen from this group that caused you to say that?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You know, that was just that was just some you know,
I'm a sailor and sometimes a cuss like a sailor,
and I say things. And I've already publicly apologized on
the news for saying that I shouldn't have said that.
You know, that's that's it wasn't the right thing to say,
and I apologize again. And if those guys are listening,
I apologize. It wasn't it wasn't the right thing to say.
But you know, these are actually things that I could
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have came on at nine oh five with Senator Fisher
because you know, she refuses to debate h You know,
so I don't really understand that part of it, but
every time somebody asked me, I'll apologize again.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I'm sorry have you talked with her at all?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
No, I have not.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
All right, we're talking here with Independent Senate candidate Dan
Osborne on news radio eleven ten KFAB. There was a
report earlier this month in a kind of a tabloidy
organization called the Daily Mail. It got some conversation that
I know got back to you here from Gary Sandelmeyer
and Jim Rose on kfab's Morning News that was looking
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into your purported personal life for at least connections with
email and social media accounts linked to your name. Do
you want to address that here this morning?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's not true. Reporters including Fox News looked into this
months ago. They found there's nothing there because it's all bs.
I think this is just a it didn't pass any
smell tests. This is just a desperate attempt from somebody
who's about ready to lose their job. Look, she's been
a sitting incumbent senator for twelve years. She should be
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touting her accomplishments instead of just coming after me personally.
That's that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, I didn't see Senator Fisher quoted in that story.
Do you think she had something to do with it?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Well, it certainly is suspicious. You know that we're pulling
within the margin of error. We're raising money, She's raising money.
Mitch McConnell just their super pac just did a ten
million dollars or something like that add by. So you know,
there's a lot of money coming into this, and there's
a lot of people that stand to lose if Fisher loses,
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including large corporations as she does their bidding that I'm
not going to do their bidding, So stands the reason,
you know, that's why it's coming up. Now.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
There was a there were pictures in this article of
your adult daughter and questions there about your family. You
told me once that you didn't want to be a politician,
but boy, you start seeing stuff like this, you're a politician.
Now what curious? What did your wife have to say
when suddenly here on online news sources there's pictures of
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you and your daughter and questions about your family.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yeah, you know, it's actually it's actually brought us closer
together because she knows who I am. Nobody knows me
better than my own family, and I know I know
my daughter better than anybody else on this planet. She's
a classically trained professional dancer in Hollywood. Half of every
single dollar I've ever made has gone into dance lessons.
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And you know, again she's classically trained and and you
know she has made music videos for bands. That's what
that's what professional dancers do. And this is disgusting and
this is why normal people don't run. But you know,
we're gonna weather the storm and we're going to be
closer as a family when this is all over.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
A couple more minutes here with Dan Osborne, you led
the strike against Kellogs here in Omaha. That's how many
of us became acquainted with you. Shortly thereafter, Kellogg's announced
they'd be closing that Omaha plant where they've occupied that
space for about seventy five years. Those jobs you fought
to protect or gone? Do you bear any responsibility for that?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Well, the fact of the matter is, Scott, the fact
of matter is they're not gone. You know, it's two years.
October twenty October fifth, twenty twenty six is when the
contract expires, and that's when they say they're closing the plant.
They're taking a play right out of their playbook. They
did the same thing in twenty fifteen, they said they
were going to close the Battle Creek plant. Leading up
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to a contract and then they got us to sign
a contract with a lot of concessions. I think that's
what they're doing now. It's you know, this is this
is a case of dirty negotiating tactics. But you know,
I think the city's going to be working with Kelloggs.
And again, two years a long time. A lot can
happen in that time. But I do not foresee Kellogg's
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leading Omaha. It's the biggest plant in the network. Plus
there's that there's three other plants in the network. Weren't
the closing one of those? Really just nothing adds up
in my head.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
All right, I'm very encouraged by that answer, and we'll
see here we've got about a week and a half back.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
The matter is that plant makes a million dollars a day.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
I think a lot of people, Mayor Stott included, very
interested as to why Kellogg's would do that. Some people
have said it was due to the strike. That's why
you got that question here. We got about a week
and a half before this election. As you drive around Omaha,
you see a lot of signs and yards. I have
yet to see, and I'm sure it exists, but I
have yet to see Dan Osborne sign in the yard
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with the Donald Trump sign. I see yours in some
of the blue dots suggesting Kamala Harris here, who are
you going to vote for for president?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yeah? Well, as soon as we get off here, Scott,
I'll text you a whole bunch of pictures with my
sign next to a Trump sign. Okay, know I haven't
seen one in Omaha yet either, but certainly across the
state you'll see them. But I you know, I made
an announcement very early in this campaign that I don't
accept endorsements from any one political figure or any one
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political party, and I certainly don't give them either. So
you know, that's as soon as I as soon as
I say who I'm voting for, that's an endorsement.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's about a week and a half until election day, Dan,
good luck. On November fifth, we'll talk again.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Thank you, Scott, appreciate
Speaker 1 (19:32):
It, Scott for these mornings nine to eleven our news
Radio eleven ten KFAB