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September 19, 2025 • 48 mins
This is a combo meal of segments from Thursday and Friday's shows that seemed to fit well in Lucy's Pumpkin (yes, that part is in this show).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott VORDIEZ, I don't watch Jimmy Kimmel. And this is
not me taking a big stand politically. This is me
saying I'm hopefully in bed a sleep by about ten thirty,
so I'm not. The last thing I'm gonna do is
I'm turning in for the evening, usually at about ten
thirty at night on a regular night. The last thing

(00:21):
I'm gonna do is turn on the TV and have
someone either make me laugh and entertain me, which would
be difficult for me to fall asleep, or make a
bunch of angry political comments or disguise angry political comments
as jokes, which is going to tick me off and
make it difficult for me to go to sleep. I'm
not doing that at ten thirty at night. I'm trying

(00:42):
to sleep. And as far as I would, I would
generally see some of the late night host bits the
next day when they're funny and they're shared on social media.
But Jimmy Kimmel doesn't really do bits. I can't think
of the last time I saw something that Kimmel did
that got so much attention that people were sharing it online,
going look at this entertaining funny thing. But you know,

(01:05):
that's the lane that Jimmy Kimble's put himself in, and
ABC super Hypocritical is now taking him off the air
for it. Now, let's take a look at this. Jimmy
Kimble made this joke first of all during the monologue.
That meant that he and all of his writers all
got together and said, all right, we're putting together a

(01:26):
bunch of jokes for tonight's opening monologue where the host
comes out there says funny this and funny that, and
they all looked at it. They wrote this stuff down,
and who knows what they decided not to go with,
but they thought, yep, this is the funniest thing we
can come up with. Hilarious that MAGA people are desperately
trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as

(01:49):
anything other than one of their own. And they were
probably wiping the tears out of their eyes because they
were laughing so hard, going that's hilarious. So someone thought
that was funny or needed to be said or whatever.
And then Kimmel went on TV or went on to
in front of his audience and delivered that line, and
the audience loved it. They were laughing and clapping. And

(02:12):
that's the part that we've been talking about for the
past week. When you get on social media, if you
open one eye and look at social media, going how's
everyone doing, and then you see where you're like, Nope,
I can't do that yet. I wish a few people
happy birthday, and maybe I'll try again tomorrow. That's the
stuff that I've been trying to ignore on social media

(02:37):
is how many people are just looking for ways to
cheer and laugh all this stuff. And Kimmel, Wow, amazing.
They all went to see Jimmy Kimmel's show. So the
n studio audience laughed and clapped and ha, they thought
that was great. And then here's the other thing that happens.

(03:01):
They finished the show. I don't know who his guest was,
and or guests, and they finished the show, and then
all the different editors and producers and bosses at ABC
they all say, all right, well here's the show. Everything
okay with the show. Everything's great with the show. And
they put the show and someone takes a look at
it and says, all right, we're putting this on the
air tonight, right, you bet we are. Now, things being

(03:24):
what they are and this is probably how it is
where you work, no matter what it is that you do.
You got people who sometimes, you know, kind of show up,
They half buttock their way through their workday, and maybe
they should probably do a little better job. I don't know.
I don't know whether ABC thoroughly vetted this show and

(03:44):
took a look at it, had a conversation about it
or what, or someone just said, yeah, whatever, it's Kimmel's show,
it's on at ten thirty at night. We honestly don't
care anymore, and they just let it go. Either way,
there's someone's job at the network to vet this show
before it goes on air, and the person whose job
it is is not Jimmy Kimmel. So there's an executive

(04:06):
producer or someone associated with the program who would have
to look at all this, allow it, and then that
would go on there. What happened to that person? Nothing,
it's Kimmel who's gonna sit on the sidelines. And so
then you got ABC. Now they're the ones who are
gonna say whah. I never I had no idea that

(04:27):
he was saying this stuff. This is the same network
that provides to you every morning a TV show called
The View. I could spend time on this radio show
every day talking about what Joy Behar and Whoope Goldberg
and Sonny Houstin and how do I know these names
of the people on the View and what they say?

(04:47):
Every day? I could do that every day. I could
have said yesterday, hey, earlier this week on the View,
Joy Behar said, if you're not vaccinated against COVID, don't
come back. She looked at the people who came into
her studio audience. They did a again, this is entertaining
and funny, right, They did a little poll of people

(05:08):
in the studio audience for The View and said, how
many of you are vaccinated against COVID? You can't, hey,
how many of you are how many of you are
battling cancer? How many of you have are in various
stages of this or that malady or whatever. How many
of you take this medicine? How many of you are

(05:30):
doing this diet regimen. You don't ask people personal health questions,
but they did. They're like, all right, show a hands
here in the audience, and the camera showed them. This
is the reason this was tuesday. How many of you
are vaccinated against COVID? And by the way, what does
that mean? Even when Biden's team, including doctor Fauci, the

(05:53):
left their administration, the CDC guidance for being vaccinated against
COVID it was in early twenty twenty one. You either
got two shots of the two shot regime or the
one shot of it was the Johnson and Johnson. You
go in there and get one shot and that's it.
You were considered fully vaccinated if in the spring of

(06:15):
twenty twenty one you were offered a couple of shots
to which would be like one vaccination, and you did
that in spring of twenty twenty one. The CDC, this
is the Biden CDC, which was in effect through January
of this year, they still considered you fully vaccinated against

(06:37):
COVID if you got the shot in spring of twenty
twenty one. For other younger, healthier people, you weren't offered
until the summer of that year. So let's say summer
at twenty twenty one, everyone in America was offered the
COVID vaccine. Some people weren't offered it, they were told
to take it and fired if they didn't take it.

(06:58):
And the CDC never update their guidelines as they said, hey,
we got booster shots. We got more booster shots. Have
you had a booster shot, We'll have another one, you know,
like a bad bartender. Hey, this guy down here at
the end of the bar bought booster shots for everyone,
shot shot shots. None of that was in the CDC
guideline for being considered fully vaccinated. You are still to

(07:20):
this day considered fully vaccinated if you got one shot
four and a half years ago. So when the scientists
at the View, including Joy Behar, say how many of
you in here are vaccinated against COVID, you could have
gotten one shot four and a half years ago, been
able to raise your hand. YEP, that's me. I'm considered

(07:40):
by your friends at the CDC fully vaccinated. Which all
of this is ludicrous. Of course, they didn't get to
any of that. They saw people raise their hands, and
then Joy Behar said, and if you're not vaccinated, don't
come back. These are people who took time out of
their day to come in there and watch these harp

(08:04):
If these women do this TV show, they're ostensibly fans
of the View, and Joy Behar looked at these people
and say, if you're not vaccinated, don't come back. That's
also by the way on ABC. This is the kind
of thing that ABC regularly allows or looks past or whatever. Well,

(08:29):
they couldn't look past this one. The FCC's chairperson, which
the media is going to remind you over and over again,
is appointed by President Trump. Of course he was. Every
president comes in there and appoints a new chairperson of
the Federal Communications Commission. They're making it sound like this

(08:51):
is a big scandal. Trump's appointed chair of the FCC. Yeah,
that's how it works. So the chair of the FCC
suggested to broadcasters. Now, look, I get it. When the
chair of the FCC makes the suggestion, it's a little
different than if I were to make a suggestion for broadcasters.
But Brendan Carr urged broadcasters to stop airing Jimmy Kimmel's

(09:16):
show Wednesday, saying they risked being fined because he said
Jimmy Kimmel's comments were truly sick and suggested he was
spreading misinformation. Is that a problem for the FCC chair
in this case where we're looking at opinions, no matter
how ugly they are, to say you could be fined
for an opinion? Yes it is. Did ABC fight it? No,

(09:41):
they didn't why not. Well, people say, well, ABC is
owned by this media company and they're trying to work
with the Trump administration so that they could have an
acquisition deal with all that. Look, hey, if that's what's
going on, then that's how the game is played. Someone's
going to fall on that sword. What I really imagined
the deal was here is Kimmel said the stuff. And

(10:06):
there were a number of advertisers said, all right, I'm out.
This is not you know, I asked for my commercials
to be in or around this swath of time on
your network, but not for this. I don't want my
product associated with these comments. Take my advertisements off of

(10:26):
Jimmy Kimmel's show. Advertiser number one said that. Then right
on time, we got advertiser number two online too, and
and then the people in charge of ABC took call
after call from angry advertisers said look, no, I don't
want it. I don't want anything to do with it.

(10:47):
And that's when ABC said, we're going to take Jimmy
Kimmel off the air indefinitely. You'll probably be on next week,
and then this is how it works in America. Then
you can decide whether or not you want to watch this.
If they put Kimmel back on, fine, I don't care, Jimmy.
Kimmel might go back on there, double down, make even
uglier comments. I don't know. I'm not gonna watch it.

(11:08):
So that's up to everyone to decide whether or not
they want to be a part of this. But what
I imagine the case was is ABC's advertisers said no,
even those who might agree with this sentiment are like, look,
we're not going to lose business because this clown over
here is making ugly comments that have people stop buying

(11:31):
our products or services or whatever whatever. When the money
stops coming in, the boss listens and it was time
for Kimmel to go sit down. So that's what's going
on with Jimmy talked about Jimmy. Now let's talk about Jerry. Hello, Jerry,
Jerry of and Jerry Fame as in Ben and Jerry

(11:56):
Jerry Greenfield, former guest on this program. He was fine.
He has resigned from the ice cream maker after forty
seven years, saying, and I quote, standing up for the
values of justice, equity, and our shared humanity has never
been more important. And yet Ben and Jerry's has been silenced,

(12:22):
sidelined for fear of upsetting those in power. And it's
happening at a time when our country's current administration is
attacking civil rights, voting rights of immigrants, women, and the
LGBTQ community unquote. So their parent company is Unilever, which

(12:43):
I hear Unilever. I think soap? Right, they have soap
in their Unilever soap.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Ah, they might us started with soap.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Wasn't that the commercial that said for all the human
body has eighty seven parts or whatever, and Unilever soap
is for all your eighty seven or a hunt in
sixteen parts or whatever? Am I remembering those commercials from that?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
It sounds vaguely familiar.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Book, So Unilever first of all, denies silencing Jerry or
Ban or Jerry and Ben?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Did Jerry give us examples?

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I wonder how that meeting went. We have an ice
cream here. What's it called Jerry and Bens? Don't you
think I mean alphabetically it's Ben and Jerry's. Doesn't that
sound better? I just kind of thinking, Jerry and Bens
bens it no one will buy that. It's gotta okay, fine,
We'll flip a coin, all right, find Ben and Jerry

(13:36):
as it is. So did he cite specific examples of
how they have been silenced? No, he says that we
hear the ice cream people wanted to call attention. Let's
see here. Our administration is attacking civil rights and voting

(13:57):
rights of immigrants, women and the LGBTQ canmmunity.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I'm a woman.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yeah. I don't know if you heard, because you didn't hear.
You asked a moment ago, and I was telling you
the examples of what happened tuesday on the View, and
you said, when did this happen? Said tuesday. I know
that you were very busy on Tuesday. You missed out
on what the View said about COVID vaccines. And also
President Trump issued an executive order and said you don't

(14:22):
get to vote anymore.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Oh, I did miss that.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Women don't get to vote?

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Well, what am I going to do on election day?

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Support your husband.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Baker pie? Yeah, wash a window.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Don't tell him how to vote, Just support him and
tell him that you'll have the meat loaf nice and
piping hot when he gets home from voting. No hard
day of voting. Yeah. So yeah, the President, he just
slid this right in like he was on the way
to great Britain and said, hey, by the way, and
it's hard to hear him because sometimes he talks to
the media and you got Air Force one turbine engines

(14:56):
in the background. There's a lot of background noise. And
he said, here's what we're doing. Frankly, immigrants, women, lgbt
and the Q. Let the CUE. Don't forget the Q.
I get along very well with them. They don't get
to vote anymore. Yeah, he said, no more of that.

(15:17):
They don't get to vote. The voting rights of immigrants
women in the LGBTQ community are gone. And there was
one guy who was like, I don't think that this
is right, and Unilevers said, how about you boys just
sell ice cream? He's like, I can't take it anymore.
I quit. And then he went out on ex Twitter

(15:39):
and said this is the most important time in our history.
And our parent company said, we can't speak out about
these injustices that I just made up and don't exist.
Unilevers like, we didn't tell him that he couldn't say anything.
I'm guessing someone may have suggested to him, like, but Jerry,

(16:02):
what you're saying here is it's not true. He wants
it to be true. Okay, hey, how about this, guys,
how about this is crazy? I'm just spitballing here. How
about we just sell ice cream? Do you want to
just sell ice cream? I mean sometimes you come up
with the fun flavor. We have fun names for it.
Chunky monkey, that was a big one. Is there another

(16:22):
idea there about the ice cream that maybe we can Nope,
the president wants to silence the voting rights of women. Well,
we would prefer if you didn't say that. That's the
terrible name for an ice cream. No one's going to
buy that flavor.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
What would be that flavor? What would that flavor be like?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Nineteen fifties man? Yeah, Yeah, it's the flavor of a
man with a lunch box going to work at the
quarry telling his woman take off your shoes and get
stay pregnant forever. That's what it tastes like. Yeah, you
know what tastes pretty good?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
So hints of pam sandwich and coffee.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Yeah, and cigarettes. Cigarettes that were recommended by four out
of five doctors. Yeah, that's what it all tastes like.
And ice cream. And they brought it in and said,
here's our new ice cream, and you and the lever said, ah,
and Jerry's like, why can't. I will not stand by
and let you not have me make the worst ice

(17:30):
cream that's not rooted in political fact at all.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I quit.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Meanwhile, Ben's like, I'll keep working. I I know. I
started this company almost fifty years ago as an unwashed hippie,
and in some ways I still purport to be. But
I kind of like money coming in. It's been It's
been pretty easy. I basically come up with one new
ice cream flavor every twelve years, and I get paid
handsomely for it. I would rather not rock that cradle.

(17:57):
Jerry's been hitting the dubes, so I he's you know,
we can still do this. So what's the ice cream
called now? Ben?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Well, it's better than Ben's.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah. I'm just gonna I've just been a rough week.
I'm just gonna go home and just open up a
can of Ben.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
What it's not a can?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
First of all, it's a container. I'm going to pop
off a lid on some Ben have a little bend tonight. Meanwhile,
Ben's like, great, not you? Has anyone else noticed I'm
kind of running out of steam here?

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I did not notice that.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
What happened? What's different? This morning that I'm running out
of steam. I'm hungry.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Uh you want to recee his peanut butter cup? Yes, pumpkin, Yes,
I mean it's a pumpkinha.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Call me pumpkin. Thanks, sweetie, Pumpkin. It's pumpkinape All right,
I'm gonna go eat Lucy's pumpkins. Scott Radio eleven tien
kfab there's Lucy Chapman. I'm Scott Vorhees. Just had a
quick meeting in here. It was decided based on what
I said a moment ago, which could be misconstrued on

(19:13):
Lucy's pumpkin and my comments about it. It was it
was we were really close to having me pulled off
the air. And Jimmy Kimmel come in here. He's sitting
in the lobby. He doesn't have a lot else to do.
But they're they're going to let me continue with the
hope that I don't say anything too stupid. What's the

(19:36):
what's the over and under? I'm going to go two minutes.
What do you want to take the over? You take
the under take? Then I know what I'm about to say.
You take the under under. I'm trying to help you.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Win, Okay, what do I win.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
The chance to hang out with Jimmy Kimmel?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
All Right, I say what I want to him.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
What would you say to Jimmy Kimmel if he was
in here? You know what I'd say to Jimmy Kimmel
if he was sitting here, Like James, you, this was
way beyond your wildest dreams. This guy is rich. He's
got a fun show where he used to hang out
with his friends and laugh and make people laugh with

(20:20):
him or sometimes at him, and just hang out. It's like, Hey,
these are some of my favorite people. Book them on
the show. This is some of my favorite music. Great,
they'll come in here and perform live here. They're gonna
do a song from their new album. Like that's fine,
but could they also do this classic song that I
love from nineteen ninety seven. We'll check with him. Yeah,

(20:42):
they said they'd be happy to Great, that's his job.
You're like, well, it's got to be tough to come
up with all that new material every night. Yeah, that's
why he's got a whole team of comedy writers.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
You do this all by yourself?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Who work with him? Well, I know, no one ever
emails me, and says Scott what you just said was funny.
You know what I get. I get Lucy just made
that comment about air brakes with that car that went
flying up on the interstate. Lucy is hilarious. That's what
I get.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, maybe you should acknowledge when I say something funny
I get.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Well, I'll let you know when I hear something. Well, Ah,
the emails I get are Scott, did you say that
to be funny? And nine times out of ten I didn't.
I sometimes will just throw out some comment and like, well,
Scott was obviously trying to be funny there, and it's
not like no, I was. That was a sincere comment.

(21:40):
That's why you didn't recognize it. We don't do a
lot of that. But I talked to Jimmy Kimmel and say,
you had a great job. I'm sure that it made
him anxious. I'm sure that it made him tense. And
this is borrowing from previous rants I've done. I was
thinking about it yesterday. I was talking to a friend

(22:02):
of mine that worked in this world, and there was
someone with whom he works who it's going to be
hard to not identify the person anyway. There are people
in positions of power who have their friends, whether it's
social media friends, their neighbors, their friends, they're politically based

(22:26):
friends who are saying you are in a unique position
to use your position of authority to tell people whatever.
Tell them to do this, tell them not to do that,
speak truth to power, call out the fascism. You see
that kind of thing. When you're surrounded by people who

(22:47):
all tell you that, yeah, you feel like, wow, I
guess I've got a responsibility to say this. I can't
just look at him and say, yeah, it's not really
my job. I know I have a weird job, but
we make jokes about everybody. This is kind of how
it used to go. People didn't really know how Johnny
Carson voted. He just would make fun and make jokes,

(23:09):
usually not at the expense of anyone. If so, it
was kind of a light slap, but it was, you know,
both sides and good natured and we were all laughing.
But he wouldn't have Johnny Carson go up there and
do some angry political screeds about something, and the country
was good with it. But now you can't possibly do that.

(23:30):
You've got to go up there and you've got to
be angry and vulgar, and you've got to push that envelope.
Here's the thing about pushing the envelope. I could say
something way out of bounds and crazy today that a
lot of people would go, Wow, Wow, what you said.
That was great way to go, Scott, go get him.

(23:51):
And then I got to come back and do the
show tomorrow. Now I got all these people listening to
me because I'm the guy that just goes there. So
what do I say tomorrow? A double down? I'm going
there again, and I'm going there a little deeper. WHOA,
this guy is crazy? And then I come back. I
do the show on Monday, and I'm kind of hoping

(24:15):
to be here for years, if not decades to come,
partly because I love this job, and I love this team,
and I love this radio station. I love what it
represents and what it can do with and in our community,
the place where I grew up and i'm raising my family. Also,
I'm not qualified for anything else. So let's say I
want to be the envelope pusher. How do I still

(24:38):
do that thirteen years from now? What in the heck
would I be saying? Once you start being that person,
it's it's hard to keep it up. Kim All apparently
felt like he's needed to be that guy. He didn't
have to be. He could have just said, we're having
a fun conversation with this celebrity, this band's playing here,

(24:59):
a couple of funny aha jokes, and uh, we move on.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
But the audience, not just his but audiences all over
this country have been willing to change with the host
if the change, if the host changes his kind of
political leanings. He could have done that too.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Except that I don't think Jimmy Kimmel's most ardent, loudest
supporters right now, who are saying And just in case
you're like, why are you guys talking if you didn't
hear the news. Jimmy Kimmel made some really ugly comments
in the wake of Charlie Kirk's death where it's like
he needed it to be true that the gunman in
Utah was a conservative MAGA type person like Jimmy Kimmel

(25:45):
needed that to be true. Remind me to come back
to that point. So ABC said we're going to take
him off the air for a time. They have not
given that time. People have all kinds of opinions about
whether it's good battery should be fired, he should be
back on immediately or whatever. I imagine ABC did it
because a number of very influential advertisers said I don't

(26:08):
want my company, you know, Jimmy Kimmel, like, here's a
joke about the death of Charlie Kirk and the people
who are mourning him will be right back. And now
there's a commercial for Eddie's weed Whackers, and Eddie calls
up and says, I don't want my weed whackers, looking
like they're approving of what he just said or in
close contacts with this horrible joke. This is terrible. People

(26:31):
are now calling my business saying I'll never get one
of your weed whackers again. I'm gonna go with Al's
weed whacker, and Eddie's like, I don't even I don't
want anything to do with this, pull my ads, and
then everyone else, including Al and his weed whackers. I'll
call up ABC and say pull our ads. Well. ABC
likes to make money. If they don't think they can
do it, they got to make a change. That's what

(26:53):
we're seeing right now. That's the only reason why we're
seeing this right now. Money talks bs walks, so well,
that's why kim All is off and his most ardent
supporters going, Jimmy Kimmell needs to and he got it.
I bet they don't even watch him. I bet they're
not tuning in. I bet they haven't spent five minutes

(27:15):
with his show in three years. They don't even watch.
They just know, like, well, he's one of us. He's
one of these people who hates Trump. Therefore he should
be allowed to be on. Do you watch him? No,
But I heard about him and I know he hates Trump,
so I hope he's on. All right, Well he doesn't
have a big audience, Well he should. Are you gonna

(27:37):
watch him? Well, no, I go to bet at that hour.
I bet they don't even watch him. They just love
him because he hates Trump. Now back to his comment.
The ugly comment that Kimmell made that got I believe
got him bounced off the air for however time it

(27:58):
is was that at He says, Many and Magalaland are
working very hard to capitalize on the murder. All right,
let's focus on that statement, working very hard to capitalize
on the murder. Let's see what I've seen from the
people in Magaland. Worst theme park ever. It's just Trump

(28:21):
there at the front of the theme park, going, you're
gonna have a great time. We got the best rides.
Oh my gosh, these rides are so great. You're gonna
love these rides. Frankly, they're the best rides. A lot
of people. No one knows rise better than I do.
These are great rides. And you never actually get in
because you're listening to the president and you're like, is
he gonna like and maybe tomorrow, Well we got to close. Now,
you're like, but we didn't even get to rights a

(28:42):
maga Land not a great not a great theme park.
Many and Magaland are trying are working very hard to
capitalize on the murder. You know what, He's right. I
believe they are. I believe a lot of people in
Magaland Charlie Kirk supporters are trying to capitalize on the murder.

(29:08):
They're trying to turn young people either continue their thoughts
their beliefs rooted in Christian faith and conservative values. They're
trying to cultivate that, or they're trying to turn people
into what. Before you condemn Charlie Kirk, try listening to

(29:32):
what he actually said. He said, It's okay if everyone
dies in school shootings. Let's review It's all right there.
You can review everything he said. Now take a look
at what he actually said, and let's have a conversation
about it. Yeah. I think that a lot of people
in Magaland are working that front, trying to say, all right,

(29:53):
here's a guy who died for his beliefs. Are you
interested in learning what his beliefs are? And don't let
me tell you about it. Go out and find all
of Charlie Kirk's comments, all of Charlie Kirk's comments, not
just what people who hate him told you he said.
Actually go find what he said. Yeah. How awful that
people will be trying to use this sad, tragic event

(30:18):
to turn people closer to God, be stronger in their convictions.
That doesn't mean they have to agree with every single
thing Charlie Kirk says, but to be able to fearlessly
stand there and say it and welcome people who disagree
with you to have a conversation with you. How awful

(30:42):
that many and Magaland would be looking to capitalize on
the murder. And then Kimmel said, they're desperately trying to
characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other
than one of them. Yeah, the we learned. We still

(31:02):
don't know, but it seemed like the kid's dad law enforcement, conservative, religious.
I don't know how much he'd put a maga hat
on or walked around or whatever. I don't know, but
he didn't seem to be the dad at least doesn't
seem to be, you know, someone who suffers from Trump

(31:24):
derangement syndrome. So therefore, if you have a conservative parent,
obviously the kid's conservative. Right right now, all of you
conservatives who listen to the show with liberal kids are
all laughing because you know that it's crazy talk. By
the way, anytime some kid whatever stripes goes out and

(31:46):
does something terrible and immediately people are like, well, the
reason this kid was able to go out and do
this horrible thing is because his parents didn't care. His
parents weren't Maybe the parents should. People are me like, hey,
you can't condemn the parents for this, But as soon
as they think that some maga dad's maga son did
something horrible, it's throw them all in jail. Here's what

(32:08):
I think about what happened here. Whether the I think
Jimmy Kimmel needed this kid to be some deranged Trump supporter.
I didn't. If the kid ended up being someone who
was mentally ill and in that fog supported Trump, that's sad.
This kid, it's too bad he was able to do that,

(32:30):
and he needs help. If the kid is it hates
Trump and his supporters, including Charlie Kirk, and he's doing
it through this mentally ill fog, that's sad. It's unfortunate
he was able to do that. This kid needs help.
I want to remind everyone, I think kind of how
we got here and how most of all of us

(32:53):
are feeling. And this isn't all of us conservatives, all
of us liberals, all of us people who are part
of the Independence, the Green Party, the Whigs, I mean
just people that I think. I think this is how
most of us are feeling. And it was put forth
on Facebook the day after Charlie Kirk was killed, which

(33:16):
was also September eleventh, that next morning, by a woman
on Facebook named Mandy, and a lot of people have
posted and reposted and shared this because this is how
they're feeling. So Mandy says something I'm seeing since the
tragic passing of Charlie Kirk that I'd like to share

(33:37):
my thoughts on a constant question being asked in the
interweb feeds, and that question is where was the outrage
for Alissa Hortman and her husband? Those were the politicians,
the state legislators in Minnesota who were killed. We still
don't know why, but I'll let her go on. She's

(33:59):
where was the outrage from Melissa Hortman and her husband?
Where was the outrage for children killed at school? Where
was the outrage for insert any other life lost in tragic,
preventable scenarios. The implication is that the grief people feel
now is somehow unjustified because it isn't equal to grief

(34:20):
for others. Here's the truth. Outrage is human. It's not mathematical.
We don't measure grief on a scoreboard. It's shaped by
many things, and in this case, it's being shaped by proximity, connection, visibility,
and what we witness. I still think those are valid
questions that are being asked, however, because everyone's questions in

(34:44):
times like this are valid. So if I could give
an answer, it would be simply in the form of
a request to consider these things. Number One, connection changes emotion.
We always grieve harder when we feel connected. I didn't
mourn my grandfather when he passed. We weren't close, but

(35:05):
my grandmother's passing still breaks me fifteen years later. Just
as an example, most of America had never heard of
the Hortman's until tragedy struck, but Charlie Kirk, love him
or hate him, was in our feeds daily. That presence
makes his loss feel more personal, even if you never
met him. It's the same reason we mourn a close

(35:28):
friend differently than a stranger. Both lives matter equally, but
one hits our hearts differently. It's absolutely not that one
life is worth more. It's just that our connection to
people shapes our emotions. Number two, We witnessed it. It
wasn't just news. Millions literally saw it happen. The violent

(35:52):
death of a public figure in front of his family
replayed everywhere. That kind of trauma doesn't just land in
your head, It lands in your body. It absolutely changes
everything about how it affects us. Imagine getting a call
that a loved one had passed, and compare that to
watching it happen. You would undoubtedly have a different reaction,

(36:16):
process things differently, experience a set of emotions more viscerally.
Your grief still exists in both situations, but likely amplified
in the one that leaves an image in your brain forever.
Number three, this is Scott Voorhees tagging in to make
this comment. This is kind of where we're going next.

(36:38):
In the conversation back to Mandy's post, she says number three,
it's being it being Charlie Kirk's death. It's being celebrated.
I don't recall people celebrating the deaths of Melissa Hortman
and her husband, or school children who are supposed to

(37:02):
be in a safe space, but there are millions of
comments celebrating Charlie's That alone fuels a heightened response. Social
feeds are flooded with mockery and cheers. That intensifies the outrage.
No one grieving Charlie is saying his life was worth
more than anyone else's, but millions online are saying and

(37:24):
even celebrating, that his life is worth less. People aren't
hypocrites for reacting differently. Different circumstances create different emotions. That
doesn't mean one life is more valuable. It means we're human.
The real sickness is in the voices that your death
that devalue life, that call evil justice. Grief isn't math.

(37:45):
We feel it differently depending on connection, visibility, and how
tragedy unfolds. But what should unite us all is this
violence is never okay, and celebrating it is poison to
our humanity. Pray for our nation, Pray for the victims
and families of all of these crimes. Pray that our
hearts are softened and humanity restored. That is the assessment

(38:12):
the morning after Charlie Kirk was killed September eleventh by
someone I don't know on Facebook named Mandy. It's been
shared a bazillion times. It should be shared a bazillion more.
I That was one of the things that really got
me as I was looking at social feeds from people
who maybe weren't exactly celebrating that Charlie died, but somehow

(38:34):
either mocking or wondering where was the outrage for this
death or that death, or how come? Like I, everyone
I talked to was outraged about all of the deaths
school shootings. Everyone I know was outraged about it. Everyone
I know is incredibly sad about it. So I don't
know where this idea was is that somehow there was

(38:57):
a school shooting and Charlie Kirk fans or officionados were like, eh,
and is going on about the But Charlie Kirk said
that school shootings were justified. No, he didn't. We went
over that last week on the show. He never said

(39:20):
it's all right that we have school shootings, that I
can have my gun or whatever. It was part of
a much longer conversational philosophical topic about what the segment
Amendment is about, and that is to go after a
government that is fascist, that is overreaching, that is trampling
down on rights, and immediately all the people who hate

(39:42):
Trump say this government, and all the people who love
Trump say the last government. I mean, that's when you
frame it like that and you realize that there are
all kinds of people across the country who are wary
of their government. That's where the second Amendment comes in.
Charlie Kirk was talking about and he said we need
to have it, and he likened it with being able

(40:05):
to drive. I mean, no one's saying like, no one
should be able to drive because if everyone stops driving,
that will save thousands of lives every year from car accidents.
No one says that, but we demonize guns and say
we should take away everyone's guns. Well, the reason we
have them is because the Second Amendment is rooted in
if our government steps out of line, we're here to

(40:27):
nudge them back to center. Right, That's what the Second
Amendment was for. You can take it up with the
founding fathers. But Charlie Kirk never said like, hey, we
shouldn't care if kids are killed because I want my gun.
He never said that, And so I think a lot
too many, nearly all of the people who have been

(40:47):
online celebrating Charlie Kirk's death or mocking it, or at
least having to let everyone know that they have more
than a passing disinterest in his death, they all feel
like Charlie Kirk were told that Charlie Kirk doesn't care
about kids being killed in a school, and he wants
everyone to have guns, and even if that means some
people have to die while sitting there in math class.

(41:09):
Charlie Kirk doesn't It didn't feel that way. His supporters
don't feel that way. He never felt that way, and
he never said that. So why then do people feel
compelled to post things like this teacher that had been
talked about throughout among other conversations kfab's Morning News, Gary
Sadelmayer Jim Rose were discussing the teacher in Oscaloosa, Iowa,

(41:35):
who felt the need, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's
death to post on his social media one Nazi Down.
As I said last week, there are people who feel
like Hitler has been killed, and why wouldn't we celebrate
that we should kill Hitler, we should kill Nazis. In fact,

(41:56):
some of our fathers, grandfathers, great uncle, whatever, maybe some
people listening to this program did kill Nazis. The that's
what day we fought that war for right on, among
other things, to kill Nazis, go after the Nazis. It's
okay to kill Nazis. Charlie Kirk was a Nazi, It's
okay to kill him. And so this art teacher apparently

(42:18):
felt completely justified, like no one would ever have a
problem with him saying one Nazi down. Now they're talking
about how that teacher needs to go, and he's and
the fact they dismissed him an art teacher in Oscaloosa,
and now he's suing the school district saying my First
Amendment rights have been violated by the way. He is

(42:41):
the first person who would step up, or he'd be
in the first wave of people who would step up.
If after George Floyd died, some teacher somewhere had made
some ugly Facebook post about it and got fired for
it and then sued, going my a speech, this teacher
would be like, you don't get a chance to say that,

(43:05):
because apparently freedom of speech has to do with whether
or not you like it, and it doesn't. It has
to do with whether or not the government can put
you in jail for it. But I lost my job. Yeah,
here's why you lost your job a whole because there
are students in that class who are mourning the loss
of Charlie Kirk. And if you were to end teachers know.

(43:30):
How do I know teachers know? Because one of my
son's teachers, my son's a high school student here in Omaha.
One of my son's teachers came up to him in
class yesterday and said, Hey, so and so wants you
to ask her to homecoming next weekend. Why why would
a teacher do that? I don't know. This is uh,
it's it's a it's a whole different conversation. The teachers know.

(43:57):
I remember before I got a chance to know him,
and he became not only one of my favorite teachers
when I was in high school, but one of my
favorite people do this day, I was talking with my girlfriend,
I don't know, freshman or sophomore year. We dated on
and off for a couple of years, and apparently this
is one of the times that was I guess, a

(44:18):
rocky part of our relationship. And this teacher walked by
as we were talking in the hall and said to
her about me. And he didn't know me. I hadn't
had him as a teacher yet. He said to her,
as he's walking by in the hall, stay away from him.
He's bad news or something like he's trouble, which I

(44:39):
thought was super cool, Like, darn right, I am trouble.
I am bad news. You hear that girls bad news
over here? Trouble. That's me scotty V. Even the teachers
know it. Teachers. No teachers know if a student is
bad news. Teachers know there are girls talking about how

(45:02):
they want some guy to ask her to homecoming. Teachers
know if there's a student who is a bit of
a fan or at least not a detractor of Charlie Kirk.
And now you have this teacher who you know as
a student posted one Nazi down about his death, and

(45:24):
you're thinking, oh, wait a second, this teacher, my teacher
celebrated him being killed because of what he thought. I
think these things. I have a Christian worldview that shapes
my political thoughts, even if I'm not even old enough
to vote or just old enough to vote. Does my
teacher think that I should be murdered? And at the teacher.

(45:47):
I'll give the teacher the benefit of the doubt. I
don't think he wants to either kill himself this student
or see this student killed. I'll grant that teacher that grace.
But now we have a teacher who clearly thinks that
this student is at least a Nazi sympathizer. And now

(46:08):
he comes up there and hands in his art work
to be graded in class. How's the teacher supposed to
grade that? This isn't math where you hand in your
math homework and you say, yeah, eight times six is
I don't know, does anyone really know what eight times
six is? And they put it, you know, they put
they guess the number and they get it right, and
you've got it two plus two equals four, and the

(46:29):
teacher begrudgingly says, correct, well, in an art class, this
teacher in Ouscloosa is an art teacher. You hand in
your pottery, you hand in your sketch, and the teacher
now has to judge it with bias, whether or not
he feels like you put the effort, like you did
your best work, like this work is worthwhile. Maybe it's

(46:52):
a solid B plus. But the teacher says, eh, C
minus guy, because I have discretion in deciding what you're
great is. And I don't like you because you're a
Nazi sympathizer and I know it and everyone knows it.
One Nazi down. You want that teacher in class. You

(47:13):
want that teacher shaping young minds. You want a teacher
who's like, okay with someone being murdered, to be like, okay, class,
settle down, let's learn today. And I'm the one teaching you.
That's disgusting. And yes, there are community standards that determine

(47:36):
whether or not a teacher should still be employed. If
that teacher comes out and say, well, freedom of speech,
freedom of speech. If that teacher comes out and says,
I look forward to having your kid in class this year,
I like to sniff their seats when they leave the room.
You're like, wait, what hey, freedom of speech man? I

(48:00):
mean sorry, was that did I just come out of
left field with that one? Making sure and making sure
Lucy's still paying attention.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
I'm always paying attention.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
So all right, So the idea that a teacher says
something just because we don't like it, we can't get
rid of that teacher because freedom is speech. All right. Now,
with my last example, apparently have everyone feels like maybe
there's some speech that like, look, we're not going to
jail you for saying it. We might jail you for

(48:33):
doing these things, but freedom of speech, the government can't
jail you for saying this stuff. And no one's doing it.
But this teacher should be fired and he's not the
only one. Scott Boys Morning's nine to eleven on news
Radio eleven ten KFAB
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