June 6, 2025 • 34 mins
Some in our community have some angry questions for Sheriff Hanson about last month's deputy-involved shooting. Hear his responses to those questions here.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vordie Douglas County Attorney Don Kline, who was on
here on eleven ten KFAB a couple of hours ago,
explaining why he was not bringing charges against the Douglas
County Sheriff's deputy who just recently was in a situation
where there was an individual that they were looking for
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and they found him and the individual appointed the gun
twice at the deputy and the individual lost his life
in the situation. And we also heard from Douglas County
Sheriff Aaron Hanson yesterday and now there'll be a meeting
between the sheriff and the family. We welcome onto the
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program Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson here on eleven ten kfab. Sheriff,
thank you very much for doing this today. What's the
next part of this process?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So well, first of all, thanks for having me on Scott.
You know, before we even start, I want to again,
you know, extend my indolences to the family and the
friends of Jeaneti Ibraheim and the folks in the community
that really feel connected to him in this situation. You know,
obviously we never want we never want this kind of outcome. Unfortunately,
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we see around the country and locally. Sometimes these are
the outcomes that do occur when we have a high
risk armed encounter. We train our best to try to
prevent them, but unfortunately sometimes they happen, and that leaves
us with no other option and to investigate them professionally
with a focus on truth and justice. So what happens
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next is the initial criminal determination is concluded, and I
say initial because that's the county attorney's initial criminal determination
of not filing criminal charges against Sergeant Ronck. Ultimately, there
will be a grand jury of completely independent Douglas County residents.
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It will be in panel sometime here soon down the road.
They will be able to review all of the evidence
and they'll be able to interview any participant that they
want for this investigation, and then they will ultimately render
their final decision. But starting today, the Dougus Kanti Sheriff's
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Office is formally launching our administrative internal investigation that is
completely separate and distinct from the criminal investigation because quite frankly,
the elements are different. A criminal investigation is to determine
if a crime occurred based on Nebraska state statutes. An
administrative investigation is one that is focused on where policies
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adhered to best practices and training. And so that's the
phase that we're on right now. And again that's a
completely different side of the Sheriff's office, completely different chief
deputy that oversees that area, and there'll be a separate
outcome and determination on that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
The grand jury still needs to take a look at
the body worn camera footage from the sheriff's deputy here
before the family can see it.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, we've we're currently right now in talks with family representatives,
with the civil side of the County Attorney's office to
try to ensure that we have a controllable number of
individuals from the family, only family members or maybe a
member of the clergy who will find time to come
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to the Sheriff's office so that I can show them
the video. And so you can imagine that you know,
that takes time to make sure that all the ground
rules are in place, because the other thing we can't have,
Scott is we can't we can't have someone covertly recording
that video because if that video goes out, then that's
contrary to state policy when it comes to the grand
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jury procedure. And so we want to make sure that
we are being responsive to the desire for the family
to see the body camera video, but we also need
to make sure we do it in a way that
crosses all the eyes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And I want to ask some of the questions based
on what some of the social media posts have been
that have been against the sheriff's deputy, Jesse Ronk, against
your department for some of the tactics involved here. Certainly
there are a legion of comments in favor of making
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our community more safe. But for purposes of the next
couple of questions here, this is where some of these
are coming from. And a lot of the people say, like, look,
you're driving around in an unmarked car. You're circling this guy.
This guy has no idea that there's a sheriff's deputy
in the vehicle. He points his gun at the vehicle,
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not a smart move in any instance, but he doesn't
know there's a cop in there. So suddenly here comes
the vehicle up there. Without waiting for backup, guy gets out,
identifies himself as a cop. Ibrahim doesn't know, and you know,
he grabs for his gun. He gets shot. People say,
we should have waited for backup, and if we knew
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that this guy was someone on our radar for weeks,
why go get him in the middle of the night.
Why not go get him at work or when he's
sleeping in the morning or something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, it's their question. And I think that the surveillance operation,
from what we're gathering from a Sergeant Wronk's interview in
the interview of the other deputies, that what you stated
was exactly what the intent of this particular operation that day.
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That was the intended outcome. Is this was at its
core going to be a surveillance operation attempt to intercept
the individuals that were in the social media videos in
possession of firearms, flash them around, potentially while in possession
of narcotics, and also while in the presence of teenagers,
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which is obviously a dangerous combination. In any event, I
think that was definitely the intent, and what changed the
calculus was when a gun was pointed directly at Sergeant
Ronk as he drove in close proximity by the vehicle.
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And I think people need to step back from the
auser involve shooting incident for a little bit and ask yourself,
is there ever a reasonable reason for anyone to point
a gun at anybody simply driving down a road, even
if they do a U turn. I can tell you
if you buy anything from Amazon lately. I had an
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Amazon delivery dropped off at five o'clock in the morning
here recently, and the Amazon driver was in his personal car.
Uber is a twenty four to seven operation. I'll never
forget one of the detectives under my command, when I
was a sergeant with OPD Gang Unit, got shot. His
vehicle got shot at by a gang member who didn't
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who just thought he was a civilian car driving around
looking suspicious. And that same day, my son had volunteered
to drive around that same neighborhood at that same time
delivering Thanksgiving turkeys to poor families. And so there is
no reasonable explanation for brandishing a firm pointing at a
car passing by, unless you can articulate that your life
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is immediately at risk.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Then certainly if he's willing to point a gun at
this vehicle as someone else to your point, just happens
to be driving down behind him, and he suddenly now
has this paranoid idea in his head. People are coming
to get me. I better shoot first and ask questions
later that next guy driving around, perhaps an uber driver
who we lost in our community recently, might suffer the
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the run of this attack, which gets to why police
were interested in this individual in the first place. Douglas Cunny,
Sheriff Aaron Hanson, what can you tell us about janeti Ibrahim?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well, you know, I think that what draw what drew
the attention of investigators from from not just DCSO, but
from other law enforcement agencies, was you know, a longstanding
practice of firearms brandishing on social media and also different
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types of firearms brandishing of different types of firearms, and
also parallel with the knowledge that janeti Ibrahim did have
associations or connections with a known street gang in the
in the Omah metro area. And so, aside from the
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concerns over drug use with the firearm, which is illegal
per state law and federal law, aside from the potential
the risky gunplay that is seen in the videos involving
young people, you also have the question of where are
these guns coming from? And that's how investigations start. Scott,
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It's no different. I have investigators that monitor social media
platforms looking for stolen items being advertised online on Facebook, Marketplace,
or craigslisty things like that. Social media is a reality
in modern day living, and it's a reality in modern
day law enforcement and law enforcement. Not just the sheriff's office,
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but every law enforcement agency across the nation and locally
utilizes social media as a precursor to detect, either confirm
or deny that someone may be involved in criminal activity.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
We've got a seventeen year old who was a pass
you're in the vehicle. There is a thought that there
was someone else in the vehicle who a lot of
media descriptions say has not been identified yet. Is there
a reason why this individual hasn't been identified, including even
you don't know who he is.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
We have not been able to identify who he is.
We have some leads, we have not been able to
conclusively confirm or otherwise deny that it is the individual.
But you know, again, it's another teenager, an individual under
the age of eighteen. We suspect we did show and
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share the image yesterday. We do hope the public could
could help give us tips to try to identify that
individual because, you know, again, even though even though there's
some risky behavior that occurred, we know one individual can't
give his side of the story, and that's JANIEI Ibrahim.
And so that's why it's so important to be able
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to locate and interview methodically as many witnesses as we can.
Even if that witness thinks they might be somewhat culpable
or in trouble, we want to talk to them. And
I'm not saying that's the case with this young individual,
but you know, it's vitally important that we be able
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to paint the entire picture. And if we're missing his perspective,
that's a perspective we'd still like to get if we can.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
There are groups out there, including those working with the
juvenile offenders, who are trying to get them to say, look, here,
here's the right thing to do, here's the wrong thing
to do, including when someone who identifies himself as a
police officer suddenly is talking to you. Are are people
getting that message? In your opinion, Sheriff.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, I think there's an even bigger message that we
have to have because remember in this case, this was
this appeared to be a very spontaneous event. The change
the original surveillance plan. You know, these deputies might not
have even had contact with those individuals at all. They
might have just surveilled, taken a note, and then decided
to make contact at a later date. They might opted
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to have a more organized plan to contact. What changed
that calculus radically for the investigation was when one of
the young men in that car, Jnai Ibraheim brandished a
firearm with an active flashlight attached to it and pointed
it directly in close approximated the deputies they drill by.
And I think that's a conversation that we really need
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to drill down on in our community, all across the community.
Too many young folks have not been given appropriate training
and mindset by their parents when it comes to firearms possession,
firearms safety, and that is crucial. If people take a
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cavalier approach to our second Amendment right, and if they
abuse it and don't treat it with responsibility, we will
see more tragedies occur, Not just offs involved shootings, but
we will we see all the time accidental discharges where
people are injured or killed. These young people in a car.
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Let's let's make a different hypothetical. You're on social media,
you're brandishing a weapon, You're in an area known for
a gang activity. Who else might come looking for you,
another gang member, And so the behavior is risky and
it is not in line with responsible gun ownership or possession.
And that's a culture reset that we need all across
our community.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
The reality of the situation is there are still some
bad guys and some misguided youths out on the streets.
And here another weekend in Omaha, your guys will be
out patrolling. If a sheriff's deputy or a member of
your department suddenly finds himself in a similar situation, what
would you advise that that individual will do based on
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what happened a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, first of all, do not put yourself in a
position where you may find a spontaneous, a spontaneous armed encounter.
Let's say that wasn't Sergeant Ronk driving by at that time.
Let's say it was a lawful Let's say it was
a hard working mom who just got done with a
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long shift at Denny's and she's a concealed carry a carrier,
and she has a firearm in a holster next to her,
and some unknown person pulls a gun and points it
at her. You could very likely also see a deadly
encounter culminating in that scenario, and so don't even engage
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in the risky behavior to begin with. Do not possess
firearms while you're consuming narcotics or alcohol, and definitely use
safe firearms tactics when you are in possession of that
fire arm, both in your home and in the public.
That is probably the foundation of how we can avoid
these scenarios. I can tell you two things. Our deputies
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and other law enforcement officers in the area constantly come
in contact with armed individuals, and only a fraction of
those contacts culminate into a fatal ending a fatal conclusion
to those interactions, and oftentimes the conclusion is dictated by
the actions on the very front end of that interaction. Now,
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does that mean we're not going to take a close
look and try to see if our tactics and our
training is up to snuff. We're definitely going to do
that the administration and the administrative aspect of this. But
can you really write a policy that dictates to a
law enforcement officer or any private citizen how you should
respond when a gun is pointed at you within three
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feet that's a tough one' that's a high demand ask
of anybody, law enforcement officer or regular citizens.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And thank goodness, most of these interactions don't end with
a situation like this. But the reality is is that
you guys don't have any idea when you're coming up
on someone, even for something like a tail light out,
what's going to happen next. And you've got deputy right
now who has been vindicated by the Douglas County Attorney,
yet he still has to live with this situation. Last
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question for your sheriff, how is Deputy Jesse Ronk doing?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You know, obviously it's tough as difficult as this is
for the Ibraheem family, and as a dad, I can't
imagine losing my kid. I can tell you it's equally
as tough for Sergeant Ronk and his family. I'm very fortunate.
I'm almost thirty years into my law enforcement career, been
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involved in a lot of armed encounters, never had to
take a life, thank god. My brother, younger brother on
another law enforcement agency, he's not so fortunate. Taking a
life is a powerful event and it will never leave
you and I And that's another reason. You know how
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powerful it is for the family of the deceased and
all the law enforcement professionals involved. That's why we're so
focused on on doing this investigation right, doing it fairly, neutrally,
with a focus on truth and a just outcome.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And I know you'll keep us posted. Douglas County Sheriff
Aaron Hanson, thank you very much for the time today.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Thank you very much here on.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
News radio eleven ten KFAB. Scott bodes Well, you know it,
news Radio eleven ten KFAB. You've got those who, no
matter what law enforcement does, you have those who say
that they're wrong to even exist, you know, defund the police.
Why do these guys have to have guns in the
first place. Why can't they shoot ping pong balls of
these guys and tell them to stop it? You know,
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you've got those who, no matter what police do, fail
to put themselves in the shoes of the officer. And
you've got someone who's pointed a gun at you twice
and it appears to be, you know, getting in a
position to be able to do it a third time.
He was he seemed to be loading or or positioning
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this weapon in such a way as to now fire
a shot against this guy. All these guys who are
copy haters out there. What would you do in that situation?
I would shoot the gun out of his hands. Is
not a viable answer. This isn't the Dukes of Hazzard.
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So there are some people though, who say, all right, look,
I support law enforcement, but you know, if I'm standing
out there with my buddies and this car seems to
be circling me and it's nighttime and it's not a
marked police officer, and next thing you know, this guy
pulls up. He's got a gun on me, and he
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says he's a guy, But I don't know how am
I supposed to know? If I have the ability to
defend myself, I'm gonna pull for my gun and defend myself.
I can absolutely understand that thinking. And you know why
we're thinking like that, because we're not criminals. We're in
our scenario when we say, yeah, we're just hanging out
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talking with our friends. This was a block party that
went a little bit late, and now it's after eleven
o'clock at night and we're still hanging out with our
neighbors and here comes this car circling and we're like,
what's this guy doing. You know, we're on our property,
we have our concealed carry permit. We are carrying, and
then this guy suddenly comes up and says, I'm a cop,
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you know, and you're like, uh uh, I'm not gonna
get robbed or shot. Not today.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
In our scenario, we're a law abiding citizens and the
person we think is coming up here is not law enforcement.
When you hear people say yeah, I don't oh no, that's
because when you put yourself in this situation, you can't
put yourself in the position that this individual was in
who got himself shot. This is not someone who made
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one bad decision in his life and it was this
night and he paid for it. It was intimated during
the news conference yesterday. This is someone who has had
numerous interaction points with authority, whether it's law enforcement or
in school. There was a reference made to a we
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can't talk about his juvenile record. It's sealed because he's
over the age now of eighteen. He was nineteen years old.
He's on social media posing with guns and drugs and
is and with known gang members. Now the family can
say why did the police have to do? As as
Sheriff Hansen said, we take every opportunity to take a
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look at our policies and make a determination is the
best way to go going forward. He's willing to admit
that he's not saying that anyone did anything wrong here.
He's willing to admit that perhaps everything is a learning
opportunity and we potentially we will study this and we'll
see what happens in the future. Why can't the families
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ever say this, not once? Never, once, do we have
anyone who would have done the same thing that your
dad would have done. And that has gone over to
Deputy Jesse Rock and go, I'm sorry for what you're
going through right now based on the actions of my son.
Who's going to be a man and do that. Who's
going to step up and say, hey, I'm sorry that
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so many teachers, other individuals, other street gangs in the community,
those were selling drugs to those who are getting illegal
guns pointed at them, and those who have to deal
with the behavior of young people like my son, I'm
sorry you've had to deal with that. When is someone
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gonna step out there and say, all right, hey, my kids,
no angel, you never hear that. Look, this family's grieving.
I will give them the benefit of this. Isn't the
time that they're looking to say that. But boy, you
never hear that from any families ever, at any point
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in the timeline. You never hear cops are always wrong,
Cops shouldn't have done this. How's my kids supposed to know? Look,
there's a reason like when you say, like, well, I
don't know if this guy is circling my neighborhood and
suddenly coming out with a gun on me, I don't
know if he's a cop. Yeah, it is because you're
a law abiding person. Do you know what you were
doing when this situation was going down near forty eighth
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in Pratt in northeast Omaha. You know what you were
doing at same time that night? You were asleep, You
worked that day, you got to work. The next day,
you're getting up going to church. I forget which day
of the week this happened on. You are asleep because
you're not putting yourself in the situation where you're gonna
be either of these guys. And that's the reality of
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that situation. We've got a Fox News update next Scott,
forty one minutes into the hour, and I have yet
to give you my thoughts on Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
All Right, I won't make you wait any longer. I
don't care, nor am I surprised. I've been telling you
for months. I wouldn't throw all of your maga eggs
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in the Elon musk bag just yet. He's he's a
little out there. I'm Scott Vorhees, and I know I'm
out here with him on Nebraska's news, weather and traffic station.
Lucy Chapman here as well. I also have pretty much
been well. We talked to Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson
throughout most of the first part of the program. I
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gave some thoughts in the wake of his conversation, which, look,
I'd be nothing. I always tell you that I will
be honest with you all the time unless it's more
entertaining to be dishonest. But even in those instances, I
think that you're probably in on the sarcasm, satire or whatever.
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So I'm never purposefully dishonest with you to try and
cover up my opinions on things, and I didn't do
that a moment ago. But I also I don't like
how I feel in the wake of it, because it
sounded very much like I'm chewing out the family who
has a dead teenage son. I don't want to do that.
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I don't want to be that guy, but I can't.
Here we go, but I can't help but look at
a situation where a tragic incident occurs, and you've got
one side saying this is a learning opportunity to review
policies and try and do the best for ourselves and
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our sheriff's office and law enforcement and the community going forward.
And you got the other side that every single time
just says cops are always bad our kids, an angel.
He was out there humming and singing a song and
walking my baby back home and wasn't doing anything wrong,
And why couldn't the cops just shot off his pinky toe?
Why do they have to shoot him like he had
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a car load of gang members and guns and this
was not abnormal behavior. And the family never comes out
anymore and has the same attitude that I think our
fathers would have had. If I'd gotten myself shot by
the cops, my dad would have showed up and said,
what do he do? Yeah, I would have shot him too.
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And I'm I'm only being a little bit glib here.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Look, these are my unvarnished thoughts it's just raw. It's
in our community, and so is an apartment complex that,
according to the City of Omaha, they're going to shut down.
This is from the North Omaha Community Partnership, the story
from KTV News Watch seven, and we're talking about the
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city View Apartments. It's like twenty some thirty some in
Saint Mary Ish be more vague, you know where Jackson
kind of swerves over here and becomes Saint Mary Cross
from the wonderful Omaha Children's Museum. You've got the not
wonderful city View apartments, that little high rise area there.
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And it's good that this building's going to shut down.
This building should have been condemned a long time ago.
It would probably be best for the health of the
world for it to be imploded, and in a managed,
controlled implosion. We don't want to set fire to it
because I don't want the fumes everything in there wafting
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across my community. This place is disgusting, But there also
there are people living in there, one hundred and twenty
seven tenants who still need to move out. I think
those are the people in the actual apartment complexes, or
the actual apartments in the complex, and not the homeless
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people have taken up residence in the hallways, breaking down doors,
smashing security cameras, terrorizing the people who live there, defecating
in the hallways, and then sleeping in their own filth.
Which brings me to this point. You can kick everyone
out of the building. You can. You can blow that
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building sky high if you want. There are some people
who live there who now will have the opportunity to
live in a better environment, free from being terrorized by
a criminal, disgusting element, free from being terrorized from all
the disgusting little bugs that come over from someone's disgusting
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little apartment. And this will be a new a literal
new lease and a new lease on life for them,
and they're going to flourish, and they're going to go
through the rest of their lives saying, can I lived
at the City View Apartments for years. I dealt with
so much horrible, disgusting, unsafe stuff in those conditions, I
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can do anything.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Is this the apartment complex that took the dumpsters away?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Okay, that's down by Creighton, So it's not the only No,
that's not No, this is not the only place in town.
But this has been four years, this has been a
constant source of illegal and disgusting behavior, an infestation, human insect,
otherwise past rodent. So there'll be some people who are
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able to find new places to live, and they got
groups in there working with them to help them out,
and they're gonna they're gonna be just fine. I mean,
in some way, they'll be better off because of their
horrible experiences there. Like I said, they'll say, oh, I
see that there's an obstacle in my life. No big deal.
Let me tell you what I saw last Tuesday at
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my apartment I was paying for. You know, it's not
gonna be a big deal. There'll be some people who
should be imploded with the building. Like I said, unvarnished, raw,
unfiltered commentary here this morning. I will spend all day
Monday apologizing. But you can find them, some of these people,
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you can find them new housing. And these are the
same people that probably complain the loudest. Hey they're bed
bugs in my apartment. Hey my apartment smells, My apartment
is soaked with urine. And then you're gonna move them
into a new place, and within a couple of days
their apartment's gonna have bedbugs. A bad smell be soaked
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with urine, and they're like, wait a second, are you
the one doing the soaking? Well, yeah, but shouldn't someone else.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Deal with this?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Like, oh, okay, the problem is you. We can move
you into a brand new place. We could buy some
of these people brand new house. My gosh, I I
had to go pick up on Tuesday a member of
my son's basketball team and he doesn't live in the
mansion in this particular neighborhood. I'd never been in this neighborhood.
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It's it's in northwest Omaha, and I've just never crossed
this particular street to go see what's going on in
this neighborhood. So I was like, they're going, hey, I've
never I've never been down the street before. I go
up the hill and there's a freaking mansion up there.
And then this kid on my son's basketball team lives
two doors down from the mansion. So we have some
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mansions that I didn't know about in Omar, at least one.
All the other houses, you know, they're good, they're good homes.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
The mansions we've been trying to keep secrets.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
From you, Right, they're not mansions, Like someone said, like
all right, we can have a neighborhood here and we'll
do the cookie cutter, you know, building of these these
particular homes. But this is going to be my plot
of land, and this is where I'm building my mansion.
You can take some of the people who live in
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this decroded apartment complex and you can move them into
that mansion and guess what, you can even give them
a ton of money, like how much do you think
you need to live comfortably? How much do you think
you need to get your life back on track. You
can move them into the new house. You can fill
their bank account with untold riches, and within a few
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weeks you'll probably have to condemn the mansion. You know,
we always say like, well, we have a homeless problem
in Omaha. We need more affordable housing. They can't afford
or won't afford anything. You can buy them the housing.
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If you don't treat the problem, you're just moving it around,
whether it's from this apartment to a new apartment or
from this disgusting apartment. To imagine, you're going to have
a disgusting situation if you don't treat some of this problem.
And some of this problem is there are some disgusting
people in there. So I agree that they need to
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close this building. What's going to happen to the building, though,
there's some in that corridor here, Like I said, you've
got the children's museum, You've got a really nice reception
hall pretty much next door, right in that same vicinity.
So it's not like, well it's a bad area. It's
not a bad area. You got some good businesses, you
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got some fun spots there for families, you've got some
cool night spots in there, and then you got this place.
It should you know, Like I'll use I've always wanted
to just slam a wrecking ball into a building. I mean,
if that's what we're doing, if there's a lottery to
see who gets to do it, I'll buy a lottery ticket.
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I'd love to.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
But I bet you one of two things is going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I'll just I'll just say real quick that shutting down
this building does not shut down the problem. It will
move it someplace else and we'll be here to comment
on it.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
It'll shut down the problem here. Because I'm betting what's
going to happen. It's either going to be torn down
and built a high rise luxury apartments or is going
to be. It's going to depend on how badly it
is damaged on the inside. They'll just refurbish it and
make it luxury apartments.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Most of the doors are broken, lights, the security cameras,
the carpet, I mean, the sub the subfloor. Okay, well
it's just got to be torn down to the studs
and then then we'll take the wrecking ball to Scott boys.
Here's another rant. This is in Michigan where there was
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a thirteen year old boy who was hanging out in
gym class. They're in the gymnasium. Group of students are around,
and a group of boys surrounded this kid and one
guy picked him up and slammed him to the gym
floor and broke his sternum. He didn't fight back. He
was surrounded by a bunch of kids all bigger than him.
They slammed him to the ground and broke his sternhum.
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This happened in gym class. And you might say, well,
wasn't there a gym teacher around. No, there were two
gym teachers right there in the gym and apparently neither
of them saw anything. Yeah, they did, They just didn't
do anything about it, because gym teachers have turned into
a bunch of pusses lately. My gym teacher could have
whipped it both of these guys, and she was a woman.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Scott Boyes Mornings nine to eleven on news radio eleven
ten KFAB
Scott Vordie Douglas County Attorney Don Kline, who was on
here on eleven ten KFAB a couple of hours ago,
explaining why he was not bringing charges against the Douglas
County Sheriff's deputy who just recently was in a situation
where there was an individual that they were looking for
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and they found him and the individual appointed the gun
twice at the deputy and the individual lost his life
in the situation. And we also heard from Douglas County
Sheriff Aaron Hanson yesterday and now there'll be a meeting
between the sheriff and the family. We welcome onto the
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program Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson here on eleven ten kfab. Sheriff,
thank you very much for doing this today. What's the
next part of this process?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So well, first of all, thanks for having me on Scott.
You know, before we even start, I want to again,
you know, extend my indolences to the family and the
friends of Jeaneti Ibraheim and the folks in the community
that really feel connected to him in this situation. You know,
obviously we never want we never want this kind of outcome. Unfortunately,
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we see around the country and locally. Sometimes these are
the outcomes that do occur when we have a high
risk armed encounter. We train our best to try to
prevent them, but unfortunately sometimes they happen, and that leaves
us with no other option and to investigate them professionally
with a focus on truth and justice. So what happens
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next is the initial criminal determination is concluded, and I
say initial because that's the county attorney's initial criminal determination
of not filing criminal charges against Sergeant Ronck. Ultimately, there
will be a grand jury of completely independent Douglas County residents.
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It will be in panel sometime here soon down the road.
They will be able to review all of the evidence
and they'll be able to interview any participant that they
want for this investigation, and then they will ultimately render
their final decision. But starting today, the Dougus Kanti Sheriff's
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Office is formally launching our administrative internal investigation that is
completely separate and distinct from the criminal investigation because quite frankly,
the elements are different. A criminal investigation is to determine
if a crime occurred based on Nebraska state statutes. An
administrative investigation is one that is focused on where policies
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adhered to best practices and training. And so that's the
phase that we're on right now. And again that's a
completely different side of the Sheriff's office, completely different chief
deputy that oversees that area, and there'll be a separate
outcome and determination on that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
The grand jury still needs to take a look at
the body worn camera footage from the sheriff's deputy here
before the family can see it.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well, we've we're currently right now in talks with family representatives,
with the civil side of the County Attorney's office to
try to ensure that we have a controllable number of
individuals from the family, only family members or maybe a
member of the clergy who will find time to come
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to the Sheriff's office so that I can show them
the video. And so you can imagine that you know,
that takes time to make sure that all the ground
rules are in place, because the other thing we can't have,
Scott is we can't we can't have someone covertly recording
that video because if that video goes out, then that's
contrary to state policy when it comes to the grand
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jury procedure. And so we want to make sure that
we are being responsive to the desire for the family
to see the body camera video, but we also need
to make sure we do it in a way that
crosses all the eyes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And I want to ask some of the questions based
on what some of the social media posts have been
that have been against the sheriff's deputy, Jesse Ronk, against
your department for some of the tactics involved here. Certainly
there are a legion of comments in favor of making
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our community more safe. But for purposes of the next
couple of questions here, this is where some of these
are coming from. And a lot of the people say, like, look,
you're driving around in an unmarked car. You're circling this guy.
This guy has no idea that there's a sheriff's deputy
in the vehicle. He points his gun at the vehicle,
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not a smart move in any instance, but he doesn't
know there's a cop in there. So suddenly here comes
the vehicle up there. Without waiting for backup, guy gets out,
identifies himself as a cop. Ibrahim doesn't know, and you know,
he grabs for his gun. He gets shot. People say,
we should have waited for backup, and if we knew
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that this guy was someone on our radar for weeks,
why go get him in the middle of the night.
Why not go get him at work or when he's
sleeping in the morning or something like that.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, it's their question. And I think that the surveillance operation,
from what we're gathering from a Sergeant Wronk's interview in
the interview of the other deputies, that what you stated
was exactly what the intent of this particular operation that day.
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That was the intended outcome. Is this was at its
core going to be a surveillance operation attempt to intercept
the individuals that were in the social media videos in
possession of firearms, flash them around, potentially while in possession
of narcotics, and also while in the presence of teenagers,
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which is obviously a dangerous combination. In any event, I
think that was definitely the intent, and what changed the
calculus was when a gun was pointed directly at Sergeant
Ronk as he drove in close proximity by the vehicle.
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And I think people need to step back from the
auser involve shooting incident for a little bit and ask yourself,
is there ever a reasonable reason for anyone to point
a gun at anybody simply driving down a road, even
if they do a U turn. I can tell you
if you buy anything from Amazon lately. I had an
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Amazon delivery dropped off at five o'clock in the morning
here recently, and the Amazon driver was in his personal car.
Uber is a twenty four to seven operation. I'll never
forget one of the detectives under my command, when I
was a sergeant with OPD Gang Unit, got shot. His
vehicle got shot at by a gang member who didn't
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who just thought he was a civilian car driving around
looking suspicious. And that same day, my son had volunteered
to drive around that same neighborhood at that same time
delivering Thanksgiving turkeys to poor families. And so there is
no reasonable explanation for brandishing a firm pointing at a
car passing by, unless you can articulate that your life
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is immediately at risk.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Then certainly if he's willing to point a gun at
this vehicle as someone else to your point, just happens
to be driving down behind him, and he suddenly now
has this paranoid idea in his head. People are coming
to get me. I better shoot first and ask questions
later that next guy driving around, perhaps an uber driver
who we lost in our community recently, might suffer the
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the run of this attack, which gets to why police
were interested in this individual in the first place. Douglas Cunny,
Sheriff Aaron Hanson, what can you tell us about janeti Ibrahim?
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well, you know, I think that what draw what drew
the attention of investigators from from not just DCSO, but
from other law enforcement agencies, was you know, a longstanding
practice of firearms brandishing on social media and also different
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types of firearms brandishing of different types of firearms, and
also parallel with the knowledge that janeti Ibrahim did have
associations or connections with a known street gang in the
in the Omah metro area. And so, aside from the
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concerns over drug use with the firearm, which is illegal
per state law and federal law, aside from the potential
the risky gunplay that is seen in the videos involving
young people, you also have the question of where are
these guns coming from? And that's how investigations start. Scott,
(09:17):
It's no different. I have investigators that monitor social media
platforms looking for stolen items being advertised online on Facebook, Marketplace,
or craigslisty things like that. Social media is a reality
in modern day living, and it's a reality in modern
day law enforcement and law enforcement. Not just the sheriff's office,
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but every law enforcement agency across the nation and locally
utilizes social media as a precursor to detect, either confirm
or deny that someone may be involved in criminal activity.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
We've got a seventeen year old who was a pass
you're in the vehicle. There is a thought that there
was someone else in the vehicle who a lot of
media descriptions say has not been identified yet. Is there
a reason why this individual hasn't been identified, including even
you don't know who he is.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
We have not been able to identify who he is.
We have some leads, we have not been able to
conclusively confirm or otherwise deny that it is the individual.
But you know, again, it's another teenager, an individual under
the age of eighteen. We suspect we did show and
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share the image yesterday. We do hope the public could
could help give us tips to try to identify that
individual because, you know, again, even though even though there's
some risky behavior that occurred, we know one individual can't
give his side of the story, and that's JANIEI Ibrahim.
And so that's why it's so important to be able
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to locate and interview methodically as many witnesses as we can.
Even if that witness thinks they might be somewhat culpable
or in trouble, we want to talk to them. And
I'm not saying that's the case with this young individual,
but you know, it's vitally important that we be able
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to paint the entire picture. And if we're missing his perspective,
that's a perspective we'd still like to get if we can.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
There are groups out there, including those working with the
juvenile offenders, who are trying to get them to say, look, here,
here's the right thing to do, here's the wrong thing
to do, including when someone who identifies himself as a
police officer suddenly is talking to you. Are are people
getting that message? In your opinion, Sheriff.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Well, I think there's an even bigger message that we
have to have because remember in this case, this was
this appeared to be a very spontaneous event. The change
the original surveillance plan. You know, these deputies might not
have even had contact with those individuals at all. They
might have just surveilled, taken a note, and then decided
to make contact at a later date. They might opted
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to have a more organized plan to contact. What changed
that calculus radically for the investigation was when one of
the young men in that car, Jnai Ibraheim brandished a
firearm with an active flashlight attached to it and pointed
it directly in close approximated the deputies they drill by.
And I think that's a conversation that we really need
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to drill down on in our community, all across the community.
Too many young folks have not been given appropriate training
and mindset by their parents when it comes to firearms possession,
firearms safety, and that is crucial. If people take a
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cavalier approach to our second Amendment right, and if they
abuse it and don't treat it with responsibility, we will
see more tragedies occur, Not just offs involved shootings, but
we will we see all the time accidental discharges where
people are injured or killed. These young people in a car.
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Let's let's make a different hypothetical. You're on social media,
you're brandishing a weapon, You're in an area known for
a gang activity. Who else might come looking for you,
another gang member, And so the behavior is risky and
it is not in line with responsible gun ownership or possession.
And that's a culture reset that we need all across
our community.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
The reality of the situation is there are still some
bad guys and some misguided youths out on the streets.
And here another weekend in Omaha, your guys will be
out patrolling. If a sheriff's deputy or a member of
your department suddenly finds himself in a similar situation, what
would you advise that that individual will do based on
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what happened a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, first of all, do not put yourself in a
position where you may find a spontaneous, a spontaneous armed encounter.
Let's say that wasn't Sergeant Ronk driving by at that time.
Let's say it was a lawful Let's say it was
a hard working mom who just got done with a
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long shift at Denny's and she's a concealed carry a carrier,
and she has a firearm in a holster next to her,
and some unknown person pulls a gun and points it
at her. You could very likely also see a deadly
encounter culminating in that scenario, and so don't even engage
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in the risky behavior to begin with. Do not possess
firearms while you're consuming narcotics or alcohol, and definitely use
safe firearms tactics when you are in possession of that
fire arm, both in your home and in the public.
That is probably the foundation of how we can avoid
these scenarios. I can tell you two things. Our deputies
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and other law enforcement officers in the area constantly come
in contact with armed individuals, and only a fraction of
those contacts culminate into a fatal ending a fatal conclusion
to those interactions, and oftentimes the conclusion is dictated by
the actions on the very front end of that interaction. Now,
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does that mean we're not going to take a close
look and try to see if our tactics and our
training is up to snuff. We're definitely going to do
that the administration and the administrative aspect of this. But
can you really write a policy that dictates to a
law enforcement officer or any private citizen how you should
respond when a gun is pointed at you within three
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feet that's a tough one' that's a high demand ask
of anybody, law enforcement officer or regular citizens.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And thank goodness, most of these interactions don't end with
a situation like this. But the reality is is that
you guys don't have any idea when you're coming up
on someone, even for something like a tail light out,
what's going to happen next. And you've got deputy right
now who has been vindicated by the Douglas County Attorney,
yet he still has to live with this situation. Last
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question for your sheriff, how is Deputy Jesse Ronk doing?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
You know, obviously it's tough as difficult as this is
for the Ibraheem family, and as a dad, I can't
imagine losing my kid. I can tell you it's equally
as tough for Sergeant Ronk and his family. I'm very fortunate.
I'm almost thirty years into my law enforcement career, been
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involved in a lot of armed encounters, never had to
take a life, thank god. My brother, younger brother on
another law enforcement agency, he's not so fortunate. Taking a
life is a powerful event and it will never leave
you and I And that's another reason. You know how
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powerful it is for the family of the deceased and
all the law enforcement professionals involved. That's why we're so
focused on on doing this investigation right, doing it fairly, neutrally,
with a focus on truth and a just outcome.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And I know you'll keep us posted. Douglas County Sheriff
Aaron Hanson, thank you very much for the time today.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Thank you very much here on.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
News radio eleven ten KFAB. Scott bodes Well, you know it,
news Radio eleven ten KFAB. You've got those who, no
matter what law enforcement does, you have those who say
that they're wrong to even exist, you know, defund the police.
Why do these guys have to have guns in the
first place. Why can't they shoot ping pong balls of
these guys and tell them to stop it? You know,
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you've got those who, no matter what police do, fail
to put themselves in the shoes of the officer. And
you've got someone who's pointed a gun at you twice
and it appears to be, you know, getting in a
position to be able to do it a third time.
He was he seemed to be loading or or positioning
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this weapon in such a way as to now fire
a shot against this guy. All these guys who are
copy haters out there. What would you do in that situation?
I would shoot the gun out of his hands. Is
not a viable answer. This isn't the Dukes of Hazzard.
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So there are some people though, who say, all right, look,
I support law enforcement, but you know, if I'm standing
out there with my buddies and this car seems to
be circling me and it's nighttime and it's not a
marked police officer, and next thing you know, this guy
pulls up. He's got a gun on me, and he
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says he's a guy, But I don't know how am
I supposed to know? If I have the ability to
defend myself, I'm gonna pull for my gun and defend myself.
I can absolutely understand that thinking. And you know why
we're thinking like that, because we're not criminals. We're in
our scenario when we say, yeah, we're just hanging out
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talking with our friends. This was a block party that
went a little bit late, and now it's after eleven
o'clock at night and we're still hanging out with our
neighbors and here comes this car circling and we're like,
what's this guy doing. You know, we're on our property,
we have our concealed carry permit. We are carrying, and
then this guy suddenly comes up and says, I'm a cop,
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you know, and you're like, uh uh, I'm not gonna
get robbed or shot. Not today.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
In our scenario, we're a law abiding citizens and the
person we think is coming up here is not law enforcement.
When you hear people say yeah, I don't oh no, that's
because when you put yourself in this situation, you can't
put yourself in the position that this individual was in
who got himself shot. This is not someone who made
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one bad decision in his life and it was this
night and he paid for it. It was intimated during
the news conference yesterday. This is someone who has had
numerous interaction points with authority, whether it's law enforcement or
in school. There was a reference made to a we
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can't talk about his juvenile record. It's sealed because he's
over the age now of eighteen. He was nineteen years old.
He's on social media posing with guns and drugs and
is and with known gang members. Now the family can
say why did the police have to do? As as
Sheriff Hansen said, we take every opportunity to take a
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look at our policies and make a determination is the
best way to go going forward. He's willing to admit
that he's not saying that anyone did anything wrong here.
He's willing to admit that perhaps everything is a learning
opportunity and we potentially we will study this and we'll
see what happens in the future. Why can't the families
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ever say this, not once? Never, once, do we have
anyone who would have done the same thing that your
dad would have done. And that has gone over to
Deputy Jesse Rock and go, I'm sorry for what you're
going through right now based on the actions of my son.
Who's going to be a man and do that. Who's
going to step up and say, hey, I'm sorry that
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so many teachers, other individuals, other street gangs in the community,
those were selling drugs to those who are getting illegal
guns pointed at them, and those who have to deal
with the behavior of young people like my son, I'm
sorry you've had to deal with that. When is someone
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gonna step out there and say, all right, hey, my kids,
no angel, you never hear that. Look, this family's grieving.
I will give them the benefit of this. Isn't the
time that they're looking to say that. But boy, you
never hear that from any families ever, at any point
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in the timeline. You never hear cops are always wrong,
Cops shouldn't have done this. How's my kids supposed to know? Look,
there's a reason like when you say, like, well, I
don't know if this guy is circling my neighborhood and
suddenly coming out with a gun on me, I don't
know if he's a cop. Yeah, it is because you're
a law abiding person. Do you know what you were
doing when this situation was going down near forty eighth
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in Pratt in northeast Omaha. You know what you were
doing at same time that night? You were asleep, You
worked that day, you got to work. The next day,
you're getting up going to church. I forget which day
of the week this happened on. You are asleep because
you're not putting yourself in the situation where you're gonna
be either of these guys. And that's the reality of
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that situation. We've got a Fox News update next Scott,
forty one minutes into the hour, and I have yet
to give you my thoughts on Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
All Right, I won't make you wait any longer. I
don't care, nor am I surprised. I've been telling you
for months. I wouldn't throw all of your maga eggs
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in the Elon musk bag just yet. He's he's a
little out there. I'm Scott Vorhees, and I know I'm
out here with him on Nebraska's news, weather and traffic station.
Lucy Chapman here as well. I also have pretty much
been well. We talked to Douglas County Sheriff Aaron Hanson
throughout most of the first part of the program. I
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gave some thoughts in the wake of his conversation, which, look,
I'd be nothing. I always tell you that I will
be honest with you all the time unless it's more
entertaining to be dishonest. But even in those instances, I
think that you're probably in on the sarcasm, satire or whatever.
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So I'm never purposefully dishonest with you to try and
cover up my opinions on things, and I didn't do
that a moment ago. But I also I don't like
how I feel in the wake of it, because it
sounded very much like I'm chewing out the family who
has a dead teenage son. I don't want to do that.
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I don't want to be that guy, but I can't.
Here we go, but I can't help but look at
a situation where a tragic incident occurs, and you've got
one side saying this is a learning opportunity to review
policies and try and do the best for ourselves and
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our sheriff's office and law enforcement and the community going forward.
And you got the other side that every single time
just says cops are always bad our kids, an angel.
He was out there humming and singing a song and
walking my baby back home and wasn't doing anything wrong,
And why couldn't the cops just shot off his pinky toe?
Why do they have to shoot him like he had
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a car load of gang members and guns and this
was not abnormal behavior. And the family never comes out
anymore and has the same attitude that I think our
fathers would have had. If I'd gotten myself shot by
the cops, my dad would have showed up and said,
what do he do? Yeah, I would have shot him too.
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And I'm I'm only being a little bit glib here.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
So.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Look, these are my unvarnished thoughts it's just raw. It's
in our community, and so is an apartment complex that,
according to the City of Omaha, they're going to shut down.
This is from the North Omaha Community Partnership, the story
from KTV News Watch seven, and we're talking about the
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city View Apartments. It's like twenty some thirty some in
Saint Mary Ish be more vague, you know where Jackson
kind of swerves over here and becomes Saint Mary Cross
from the wonderful Omaha Children's Museum. You've got the not
wonderful city View apartments, that little high rise area there.
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And it's good that this building's going to shut down.
This building should have been condemned a long time ago.
It would probably be best for the health of the
world for it to be imploded, and in a managed,
controlled implosion. We don't want to set fire to it
because I don't want the fumes everything in there wafting
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across my community. This place is disgusting, But there also
there are people living in there, one hundred and twenty
seven tenants who still need to move out. I think
those are the people in the actual apartment complexes, or
the actual apartments in the complex, and not the homeless
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people have taken up residence in the hallways, breaking down doors,
smashing security cameras, terrorizing the people who live there, defecating
in the hallways, and then sleeping in their own filth.
Which brings me to this point. You can kick everyone
out of the building. You can. You can blow that
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building sky high if you want. There are some people
who live there who now will have the opportunity to
live in a better environment, free from being terrorized by
a criminal, disgusting element, free from being terrorized from all
the disgusting little bugs that come over from someone's disgusting
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little apartment. And this will be a new a literal
new lease and a new lease on life for them,
and they're going to flourish, and they're going to go
through the rest of their lives saying, can I lived
at the City View Apartments for years. I dealt with
so much horrible, disgusting, unsafe stuff in those conditions, I
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can do anything.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Is this the apartment complex that took the dumpsters away?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Okay, that's down by Creighton, So it's not the only No,
that's not No, this is not the only place in town.
But this has been four years, this has been a
constant source of illegal and disgusting behavior, an infestation, human insect,
otherwise past rodent. So there'll be some people who are
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able to find new places to live, and they got
groups in there working with them to help them out,
and they're gonna they're gonna be just fine. I mean,
in some way, they'll be better off because of their
horrible experiences there. Like I said, they'll say, oh, I
see that there's an obstacle in my life. No big deal.
Let me tell you what I saw last Tuesday at
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my apartment I was paying for. You know, it's not
gonna be a big deal. There'll be some people who
should be imploded with the building. Like I said, unvarnished, raw,
unfiltered commentary here this morning. I will spend all day
Monday apologizing. But you can find them, some of these people,
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you can find them new housing. And these are the
same people that probably complain the loudest. Hey they're bed
bugs in my apartment. Hey my apartment smells, My apartment
is soaked with urine. And then you're gonna move them
into a new place, and within a couple of days
their apartment's gonna have bedbugs. A bad smell be soaked
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with urine, and they're like, wait a second, are you
the one doing the soaking? Well, yeah, but shouldn't someone else.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Deal with this?
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Like, oh, okay, the problem is you. We can move
you into a brand new place. We could buy some
of these people brand new house. My gosh, I I
had to go pick up on Tuesday a member of
my son's basketball team and he doesn't live in the
mansion in this particular neighborhood. I'd never been in this neighborhood.
(30:26):
It's it's in northwest Omaha, and I've just never crossed
this particular street to go see what's going on in
this neighborhood. So I was like, they're going, hey, I've
never I've never been down the street before. I go
up the hill and there's a freaking mansion up there.
And then this kid on my son's basketball team lives
two doors down from the mansion. So we have some
(30:51):
mansions that I didn't know about in Omar, at least one.
All the other houses, you know, they're good, they're good homes.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
The mansions we've been trying to keep secrets.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
From you, Right, they're not mansions, Like someone said, like
all right, we can have a neighborhood here and we'll
do the cookie cutter, you know, building of these these
particular homes. But this is going to be my plot
of land, and this is where I'm building my mansion.
You can take some of the people who live in
(31:20):
this decroded apartment complex and you can move them into
that mansion and guess what, you can even give them
a ton of money, like how much do you think
you need to live comfortably? How much do you think
you need to get your life back on track. You
can move them into the new house. You can fill
their bank account with untold riches, and within a few
(31:43):
weeks you'll probably have to condemn the mansion. You know,
we always say like, well, we have a homeless problem
in Omaha. We need more affordable housing. They can't afford
or won't afford anything. You can buy them the housing.
(32:04):
If you don't treat the problem, you're just moving it around,
whether it's from this apartment to a new apartment or
from this disgusting apartment. To imagine, you're going to have
a disgusting situation if you don't treat some of this problem.
And some of this problem is there are some disgusting
people in there. So I agree that they need to
(32:32):
close this building. What's going to happen to the building, though,
there's some in that corridor here, Like I said, you've
got the children's museum, You've got a really nice reception
hall pretty much next door, right in that same vicinity.
So it's not like, well it's a bad area. It's
not a bad area. You got some good businesses, you
(32:53):
got some fun spots there for families, you've got some
cool night spots in there, and then you got this place.
It should you know, Like I'll use I've always wanted
to just slam a wrecking ball into a building. I mean,
if that's what we're doing, if there's a lottery to
see who gets to do it, I'll buy a lottery ticket.
(33:14):
I'd love to.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
But I bet you one of two things is going
to happen.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I'll just I'll just say real quick that shutting down
this building does not shut down the problem. It will
move it someplace else and we'll be here to comment
on it.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
It'll shut down the problem here. Because I'm betting what's
going to happen. It's either going to be torn down
and built a high rise luxury apartments or is going
to be. It's going to depend on how badly it
is damaged on the inside. They'll just refurbish it and
make it luxury apartments.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Most of the doors are broken, lights, the security cameras,
the carpet, I mean, the sub the subfloor. Okay, well
it's just got to be torn down to the studs
and then then we'll take the wrecking ball to Scott boys.
Here's another rant. This is in Michigan where there was
(34:05):
a thirteen year old boy who was hanging out in
gym class. They're in the gymnasium. Group of students are around,
and a group of boys surrounded this kid and one
guy picked him up and slammed him to the gym
floor and broke his sternum. He didn't fight back. He
was surrounded by a bunch of kids all bigger than him.
They slammed him to the ground and broke his sternhum.
(34:26):
This happened in gym class. And you might say, well,
wasn't there a gym teacher around. No, there were two
gym teachers right there in the gym and apparently neither
of them saw anything. Yeah, they did, They just didn't
do anything about it, because gym teachers have turned into
a bunch of pusses lately. My gym teacher could have
whipped it both of these guys, and she was a woman.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
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