September 22, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vorgies.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I came up to the same four way stop that
I usually do on my usual route to work today
and was again surprised at just how few people have
a very difficult time grasping the intricate concept of the
four way stop when four vehicles get there at the
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same time, or they're in line and we're just you know,
inching up there and now it's time to go. I
I think it's it's not impossible to think, like, all right,
if the north and southbound vehicles are both going, then
they both go, and then the east and westbound then
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they both go. And sometimes one has to wait to
take a left through the intersection, but it should always
be the opposites that are going at the same time.
Is there anything dumber than when like the southbound car says,
all right, I'll go, and then the northbound car says, so,
I guess I'll wait, and then the east and westbound
cars they kind of stagger to go, but then the
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northbound car says, hey, I was next, Like no, you
had your chance, you had your chance, you didn't go.
Why wouldn't you go? There's already a car going through
the intersection at a time when you can absolutely go
what are you doing? The fact that you don't know
what you're doing is not my problem. And I almost
saw a crash in the intersection that I wasn't even
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involved in. And I'm looking at this and I'm mumbling
loudly like this and my car go what are you doing?
What is your problem? You moron? That was a couple
of hours ago. I don't know yet that I have
yet to forgive that driver who doesn't know how to
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navigate a four way stop two hours ago. I don't
you know what. And I don't know that i'll ever
forgive that driver. And I wasn't even involved, you.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Know, when we got our licenses whenever that was. I
was eighteen before I go mine. But today, see today,
i'd be cool because today most kids are eating they
don't want to drive us here.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
See well, but Lucy, it's not really a conversation about traffic, okay.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
But I just wanted to say, we had to take
that test and if you failed it at all, oh, yeah,
you had to take it again. I don't I don't
know that.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yes, yes you do.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Okay, yep, I've seen on the road.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I know well, And there are those of us who've
drive in a long time but still make mistakes. You're
allowed to make mistakes once in a while. And this
is what you need to do. And this is they
don't teach you this and the driver's head. When you
make a mistake, you have to throw your hands up
in the air as a signal to other drivers. I'm sorry,
I'm an idiot. I should have paid more attention. That
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is my fault.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
My bad.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Everyone. I am so sorry. You got to kind of
throw your hands up. Sorry, And if you see another
driver do that, you're like, all right, we'll give some
grace there, grace forgiveness. This is what the conversation is about.
As I said a couple of hours ago, I saw
this moron in the road not know how to just drive.
Drive like a not a moron. It's not hard. And
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I don't know that I can forgive that driver. And yesterday,
in front of sixty some thousand people at a football
stadium in the Phoenix, Arizona area, with millions more watching
on television live streams and listening on radio stations like
eleven ten KFAB that brought the Charlie Kirk Memorial Service
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to you live his widow who a week and a
half ago saw her husband gun down forgave the gunman.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
That is.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So hard to do. I won't belabor the point. Each
of us kind of knows what are what we think
our capacity is. When you're in the situation. I mean,
it's really it's hard and also easy to sit here
as a bystander, having not had your spouse just murdered
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a week and a half ago. It's it's hard slash easy.
I mean it's easy in that it didn't happen to us.
It's hard for us to imagine being washed over with
that level of grace and forgiveness. To be able to
do that, you would think, and people will tell you,
because I had friends texting me yesterday while Charlie Kirk's widow,
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Erica was up there speaking and said, I don't know
how in the world she's able to do this. Well,
she's she's riding the wave of the millions upon millions
of those, and some people mock and deride them this
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kind of thing. Thoughts and prayers from people who have
asked loving God to envelop her in his love and
allow her to accept, however difficult it is to see.
But the grace in this moment, and you know, she
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has I think she was already well equipped to do so.
But she said something I thought was incredibly telling yesterday
when she said it was, you know, leading up to
the event in Utah, when Charlie Kirk kind of you know,
he never had a script. She said, so it's kind
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of hard for to go off script. But he said
something that evening that she hadn't heard him say. She
was She said that Charlie had quoted biblical verse that
talked about how you know, God, please feel free to
use me, and she said, I talk to him afterwards
and said, that's a very powerful statement. You have to
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warn me before you say something like that, because if
you ask God to use you, he will and he has.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And this is.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I'm not enough of a theologian to be able to
sit there and talk about, you know, is why would God,
you know, have this guy you know, shot dead, especially
in front of his family at this time. Would why
would a loving God do that? I'm not the person
to talk about that. You know, who would have loved
to have had that conversation Charlie Kirk. And now Erica
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has kind of taken that up and It's something that
we all work and wrestle with. But the reality is
is that evil happens and and love can win. Erica
Kirk was the embodiment of that yesterday. How is she
able to do that? How is she able to to
talk like that? How is she able to forgive like that?
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Thoughts and prayers? It's not trite if you mean it.
And of course we can't possibly have an event like
this without some people saying, well.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Me, me, me, me, me me.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And President Trump did give them that opportunity. We will
address that next.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Scott Voice News Radio eleven ten Kfaby.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Vice President J. D Vance was one of those who spoke.
He says, I've talked more about Jesus Christ the past
two weeks than I have my entire time in public office.
And he's a former senator as well. Donald Trump Junior
was up there and talked about how, you know, he
missed talking to his friend Charlie Kirk and how they
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would talk about some of the stuff that was on
social media, and Trump Junior said, even my father, I
know sometimes I get a little out of bounds on
social media and my dad will call me and go
dan getting into some trouble online. Let's rein it in on.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
He started doing an impersonation of his dad, which was
kind of fun. And then after Erica Kirk spoke, here
comes the President of the United States, and I thought,
and now this will be the opportunity for the media
to juxtapose some of the heartfelt things that we have
heard at this point with I'm sure President Trump won't
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be able to help himself in front of a crowd
given this platform, being who he is. And bear in mind,
several other speakers, including Erica Kirk, had some funny comments
and lines and things that they said during their comments.
But if President Trump so much as cracks a smile,
the media will say, as Erica Kirk forgives the gunman,
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President Trump says he hates his opponent, which is yes,
if you read the transcript or saw that headline, that's
exactly what happened. Are you interested in hearing how President
Trump said?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
That?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Does context mean anything?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Does to me?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Here's President Trump yesterday at this event.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
He was a missionary with a noble spirit and a great,
great purpose. He did not hate his opponents.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
He wanted.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
The best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I hate my opponent and I don't want the best
for them.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I'm sorry, I am sorry, Erica. But now Erica can
talk to me and the whole group and maybe they
can convince me that that's not right. But I can't
stand my opponent.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So that's yeah. Jokingly smile on his face, President Trump
yesterday and people like oh, as Erica Kirk talks about
forgiveness and love, Trump comes up there and says, I
hate my opponents. Yes, that's what he said. You can
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read into that however you want. I suspect that those
who even have you know less than a passing hatred
for Donald Trump. By the way, recognize that for what
it was. It was Trump acknowledging his shortcomings and his
differences and why he needed people like Charlie Kirk around him.
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At least that's my read on the situation. That wasn't
Trump saying I'm better than Charlie Kirk because I hate
my opponents and that's how it should be. Because she said, yeah,
I'm sorry, And this is where Erica can talk to
me and you know, try and move me in a
different direction. But yeah, Trump is a new York brawler.
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When it comes to a fight, he's like, and how
low can we punch as low as possible? That's that's
that style. That's a new it's more of a New
York thing than a Trump thing. And they're all they
all play that game. That's Trump. If you haven't figured
it out by now, I'm sure you'll have more opportunity
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to do.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
So.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Here was the other thing President Trump said yesterday that
I was like, oh, I don't know, I don't know
about that. Trump suddenly started talking about. He said, Charlie
Kirk was there for the MAGA movement, make America great again,
but there's also make America healthy again. And then it
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showed Robert Kennedy Junior on the screen, or at least
on the television feed, seeming to see what was coming.
And it almost looked to me, and maybe this was
my imagination, it looked like he was trying to sink
lower in his seat, like, oh, don't know, mister president,
don't do this year. You misunderstand what we're don't Okay,
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he's President Trump's now up there saying, Yep, we cured
autism and we're gonna tell you about it tomorrow is
gonna be better, and people are like, wait, what all right? Now,
he didn't say we cured autism? What exactly was all
this about? Yesterday? He says, I think you're gonna find
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it to be amazing. I think we found an answer
to autism. That's the quote quote. I think we found
an answer to autism. And you could just tell it
from Secretary Kennedy's face. He was like that this is
something else that President Trump does. I think someone will
give him some information. He will make it fifty times
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better and then go tell everybody about it. That's I
don't know if that's a New York thing. That's definitely
a Trump thing. And sorry, but there was obviously something.
And now, whether they were or weren't, they are going
to this afternoon have a news conference about this. According
to people who purport to be familiar with the matter,
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the Trump administration, Secretary Kennedy will warn that the use
of thailandol by women who are pregnant can can increase
the risk of autism, and they will advise them you
should only be taking a set of metaphin Thailand. All
this is, you know, the same would apply to They
don't mean to go after thailand All. That's a brand.
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A set of menaphine is the active ingredient. There are
generic forms of a set of menaphine, and they're saying
you should only take this only for high fevers and
you should talk with your doctor. RFK Junior is going
to push for something else as a potential treatment to help.
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I don't I don't know. There's there's a lot that
we don't know that I think hopefully will be revealed
more today. Thailanol has issued a statement quote, we believe
independent sound science clearly shows that taking a set of
metaphine does not cause autism. We strongly disagree with any
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suggestion otherwise and are deeply concerned with the health risk
this poses for expecting mothers.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Unquote.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I don't know who would suddenly say like, oh I
took I probably took thailand All at some point during
my pregnancy and my kids autistic time to sue Tailanol,
I good luck with that. I don't know how any
of that would possibly work. There are some studies that
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have shown no connection between asset of metaphine and autism.
Some other studies have suggested well, so at least the
administration here is looking at this link. Did they look
at it and find out enough here in eight months
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to be able to come out here and say here's
what we I don't know. I just popped up during
the event yesterday. There will be more details to come
this afternoon. We will be following it here on eleven KFAB.
We will talk about arctic frost. This is what Senator
Chuck Grassley during the hearing the other day where Cash
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Pateel was up there on Capitol Hill, he said, what
about arctic frost? This is where they're going after conservative
groups like Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk's organization. We'll talk
with Senator Grassley about that after a Fox News update
next Scott, It's always a pleasure to welcome on here
a senator from Iowa. Chuck Grassley to News Radio eleven
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ten KFAB. Senator, good morning, A.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Good morning to you. And I watched on a football
on the weekend and I would have liked to big
red wind. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I share yourself em on that one, Senator, but I
have a lot more thoughts on football. I will spare
you that diet tribe right now. But short answer is yes,
that would have been a good one to win. I
want to first not just welcome you onto the program,
but wish you a very happy birthday. Senator, you just
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celebrated a birthday just last week. Happy birthday plus five
days all that, and when you get to be ninety two,
you start counting the days and months again. Is like,
I'm ninety two and a half, you know. But Senator,
what does one do to celebrate his ninety second birthday?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Well, obviously I was in Washington, DC. My wife was
in Iowa at the farm, and so it was kind
of of friends and staff meeting. But Joony Ernst gave
me a Dairy Queen Kate, Senator Smith gave me a
chocolate cake that was at least a foot across and
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eight inches high. And I even had Sandra Britt bring
me some Dairy Queen blizzards because they all know that
I like Queen.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I guess so have you ever had the frozen hot
chocolate at Dairy Queen? I am so addicted to it.
I recommend that if you can, after you finish the
cake and the blizzard and everything else you got there
from DQ, Senator, I do want to go ahead.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I'll try I'll try that sometimes.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, the frozen the frozen hot chocolate is amazing. I
do want to lean on your years here and just
let you talk for as long as you want on
this subject. We just here in the last couple of
weeks saw a strong conservative voice who's credited with leading
millions of people into being politically active, honestly on both
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sides of the political spectrum. Charlie Kirk's murder, when he
was someone who welcomed descent, encouraged dissent, wanted people to
have conversations with him. To have that voice silenced is
a very sad thing for so many Americans, and it
caused other Americans to celebrate his death and mock those
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who were mourning it. There was a beautiful funeral service
for him, a memorial service for him yesterday, and now
the country is wondering, well, where do we go from here?
Can you speak to in your years and wisdom to
what your thoughts are on what you've seen develop around
this story the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Well, first of all, as an individual, and what my
wife Barbara always says, it's so sad for the widow
and for the two kids, and I agree with that,
and that's a constant thought of my wife. Beyond that,
I guess I was completely surprised. Maybe I should have been,
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but I was completely surprised by not only the turnout
the nights in a few days after the killing, of
the worldwide reaction to his death. And I hope that
the predictions that the widow first stated, and then every
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speaker yesterday, because I watched all four or five hours
of it, that this is going to bring about a
real change in people's political involvement for the conservative cause.
And I hope that's right. But I am reminded of
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how the country drew together on ninety eleven after the
towers went down, and it lasted about three or four months.
I hope that this brings about both the Christian revival
that was predicted and a political revival, not for the
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benefit of conservatives, but for the benefit of America. That
we pull together and that we knew what Charlie Kirk
was trying to accomplish, particularly on our university campuses, that
we ought to be able to respect each other's views,
even if we violently disagree, and that we ought to
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learn from each other's views, but we ought to discuss
it civilly and proceed in that manner, and I hope
that that's what his death brings back to America, that
we can talk to our people we disagree with, and
that we can do it civilly and we can accomplish
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from learning from each other. Was Charlie Was Charlie Kirk'll
stop there, okay?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Was Charlie Kirk in your assessment a transformative figure? And
does he belong on the list with some of America's
other transformative figures socially politically of the last century.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
On the last question, I don't think I can answer.
I hope that he does, but I can't answer if
he actually will for now he does fit into that
list of people. Long term, I don't know, but I
do know this that I've been a conservative all my life,
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and I respect the things that he was trying to
do to bring more civility to our discussions. But I
was just relieved in a sense, but also educating in
a sense that the impact that he was making in
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this country and presumably somewhat around the world, that his
death had to bring that to my attention. I don't
say that out of anything about ignorance. It's just that
it took his death to wake me up to the
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tremendous influence he was having. And I did watch him
on television quite a bit when he was particularly on
Channel A cable channel to hear what he had to
say and agreed with him. But I think it was
his death that had to bring to my attention his
impact in America, particularly among young people. Now that's also
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true for the fact that you generally think that young
people don't have one of an interest in politics, and
those that are going to college are propagandized socialists and
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by liberals generally, and so you don't think that they
have much to discuss because in the university environment, at
least in too many universities, it's a danger to your
success as a college student if you speak about those
conservative issues. But Kirk brings that to our attention, and
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he obviously is making a tremendous impact, has made a
tremendous impact, and I think that impact is going to
sweep the country and hopefully for a long period of time.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
We have a few more minutes left here with Iowa
Senator Chuck Grassley. I have a few more things to
ask you about here on eleven ten kfab first among them,
in the wake of Jimmy Kimmel's being suspended on ABC
for making some grotesque comments in the wake of Charlie
Kirk's death. There are those that say that President Trump's
director of the Federal Communications Commission, the FCC, is putting
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undue pressure on media in this country that if you
speak out against the president, you will be shut down
or fined. People say this is this is censorship coming
from the Trump administration. The President himself made some offhand
comment like they're not allowed to do that, you know,
be so anti Trump? What's going on here?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Well? I was asked a question by journalists the day
it happened in wasshingt d C. Hey, let me give
you the same answer. The question was pretty much like
your question me right now. I said, if a CEO
of a corporation is making a decision business decision based
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upon pressure from the government, they are not looking out
for their stockholders. They are being a very strong CEO
and it should be strictly a business decision. Now. The
government should not be doing anything to restrict speech. That's
got to be a decision within a business. But outside
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of business, you can see you can say even hateful things.
I don't want people to say hateful things, But if
they do say hateful things, they've got a constitutional right
to do it, as long as it doesn't protect violent
action as a result of what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Do you think a teacher like some we've seen in Iowa,
including the one who in Oscaloosa said one Nazi down
and now he's protesting being fired by a school district,
do you think a comment like that should get you
fired from being a teacher.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I think that that's a decision by the local school board.
But you have to abide by the rules of your employment,
and if you don't abide by those rules, you could
be fired.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I guess we'll find out that in court. You were
talking with the FBI director Cashptel the other day in
one of these hearings on Capitol Hill, and you mentioned
something called Arctic Frost. Please illuminate this for us.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, Artie Frost was in some cases that were started
by a special agent by the name of Timbo and
he was an FBI employee at the time, And the
whole purpose of Arctic Frost was to create a scenario
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by which Jack Smith could charge the President of the
United States with violating federal law, and it was all
in an attempt to ruin Trump politically, even socially, and
even with the prospect that he would be put in jail.
How Peter Navarro was treated at his arrest, t Bow
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was reported on his own email to say, quote unquote wow, great,
And you know how unfair that was, just for Peter Navarro,
not to her President Trump. And so it ended up
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in all you'd heard about Trump being in court over
the last several years before he became president, last two
years before he became president. It was an attempt to
ruin him financially, an attempt to ruin him socially, an
attempt to ruin him politically, and even put him possibly
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in jail. It didn't work out, but that's what Arnie
Cross was all about. And I had the possibility of
the all this stuff was secret until Trump gets in
and Cash Fettel cooperates with me and we get it
all declassified and get this information out of the public.
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Now it's history in a sense, but it's history that
we don't want to repeat, and transparency brings accountability and
we don't want this to happen again. And the public
ought to know how the FBI has been used to
pleadly ruin the President of the United States at a
time when he wasn't president of the United States, and they.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Were looking at Turning Point USA Charlie Kirk's organization as well.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Right, Oh, yeah, that was another bit of information that
I put out. Not only were they going after Trump
to get him in court, but they also were going
after ninety two different Conservative Republican RNC, Charlie Kirk, and
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I don't know how many other people, but it was individuals,
nonprofit organizations and stuff. So it was the same thing
that law Learner was trying to do in the Obama
administration under the IRS was to put tramp down and
put an end to a lot of conservative organizations. It's
another example of the political weaponization of government against the
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American people. We also think that what Nixon was doing
at Watergate was wrong, and it was wrong, but that
was all in the private sector. It wasn't any government
forces used by Nixon against his opponents, whereas this was
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all of big government lined up to ruin Trump and
to ruin conservative organizations and to ruin the Republican logo.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Senator, I'll let you get back at your work. I
really appreciate the time today as always, and I'm so
glad to hear you had a nice birthday last week.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
God blesh it, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
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Scott Vorgies.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I came up to the same four way stop that
I usually do on my usual route to work today
and was again surprised at just how few people have
a very difficult time grasping the intricate concept of the
four way stop when four vehicles get there at the
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same time, or they're in line and we're just you know,
inching up there and now it's time to go. I
I think it's it's not impossible to think, like, all right,
if the north and southbound vehicles are both going, then
they both go, and then the east and westbound then
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they both go. And sometimes one has to wait to
take a left through the intersection, but it should always
be the opposites that are going at the same time.
Is there anything dumber than when like the southbound car says,
all right, I'll go, and then the northbound car says, so,
I guess I'll wait, and then the east and westbound
cars they kind of stagger to go, but then the
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northbound car says, hey, I was next, Like no, you
had your chance, you had your chance, you didn't go.
Why wouldn't you go? There's already a car going through
the intersection at a time when you can absolutely go
what are you doing? The fact that you don't know
what you're doing is not my problem. And I almost
saw a crash in the intersection that I wasn't even
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involved in. And I'm looking at this and I'm mumbling
loudly like this and my car go what are you doing?
What is your problem? You moron? That was a couple
of hours ago. I don't know yet that I have
yet to forgive that driver who doesn't know how to
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navigate a four way stop two hours ago. I don't
you know what. And I don't know that i'll ever
forgive that driver. And I wasn't even involved, you.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Know, when we got our licenses whenever that was. I
was eighteen before I go mine. But today, see today,
i'd be cool because today most kids are eating they
don't want to drive us here.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
See well, but Lucy, it's not really a conversation about traffic, okay.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
But I just wanted to say, we had to take
that test and if you failed it at all, oh, yeah,
you had to take it again. I don't I don't
know that.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yes, yes you do.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Okay, yep, I've seen on the road.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I know well, And there are those of us who've
drive in a long time but still make mistakes. You're
allowed to make mistakes once in a while. And this
is what you need to do. And this is they
don't teach you this and the driver's head. When you
make a mistake, you have to throw your hands up
in the air as a signal to other drivers. I'm sorry,
I'm an idiot. I should have paid more attention. That
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is my fault.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
My bad.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Everyone. I am so sorry. You got to kind of
throw your hands up. Sorry, And if you see another
driver do that, you're like, all right, we'll give some
grace there, grace forgiveness. This is what the conversation is about.
As I said a couple of hours ago, I saw
this moron in the road not know how to just drive.
Drive like a not a moron. It's not hard. And
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I don't know that I can forgive that driver. And yesterday,
in front of sixty some thousand people at a football
stadium in the Phoenix, Arizona area, with millions more watching
on television live streams and listening on radio stations like
eleven ten KFAB that brought the Charlie Kirk Memorial Service
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to you live his widow who a week and a
half ago saw her husband gun down forgave the gunman.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
That is.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So hard to do. I won't belabor the point. Each
of us kind of knows what are what we think
our capacity is. When you're in the situation. I mean,
it's really it's hard and also easy to sit here
as a bystander, having not had your spouse just murdered
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a week and a half ago. It's it's hard slash easy.
I mean it's easy in that it didn't happen to us.
It's hard for us to imagine being washed over with
that level of grace and forgiveness. To be able to
do that, you would think, and people will tell you,
because I had friends texting me yesterday while Charlie Kirk's widow,
(04:39):
Erica was up there speaking and said, I don't know
how in the world she's able to do this. Well,
she's she's riding the wave of the millions upon millions
of those, and some people mock and deride them this
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kind of thing. Thoughts and prayers from people who have
asked loving God to envelop her in his love and
allow her to accept, however difficult it is to see.
But the grace in this moment, and you know, she
(05:22):
has I think she was already well equipped to do so.
But she said something I thought was incredibly telling yesterday
when she said it was, you know, leading up to
the event in Utah, when Charlie Kirk kind of you know,
he never had a script. She said, so it's kind
(05:42):
of hard for to go off script. But he said
something that evening that she hadn't heard him say. She
was She said that Charlie had quoted biblical verse that
talked about how you know, God, please feel free to
use me, and she said, I talk to him afterwards
and said, that's a very powerful statement. You have to
(06:04):
warn me before you say something like that, because if
you ask God to use you, he will and he has.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And this is.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I'm not enough of a theologian to be able to
sit there and talk about, you know, is why would God,
you know, have this guy you know, shot dead, especially
in front of his family at this time. Would why
would a loving God do that? I'm not the person
to talk about that. You know, who would have loved
to have had that conversation Charlie Kirk. And now Erica
(06:39):
has kind of taken that up and It's something that
we all work and wrestle with. But the reality is
is that evil happens and and love can win. Erica
Kirk was the embodiment of that yesterday. How is she
able to do that? How is she able to to
talk like that? How is she able to forgive like that?
(07:02):
Thoughts and prayers? It's not trite if you mean it.
And of course we can't possibly have an event like
this without some people saying, well.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Me, me, me, me, me me.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And President Trump did give them that opportunity. We will
address that next.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Scott Voice News Radio eleven ten Kfaby.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Vice President J. D Vance was one of those who spoke.
He says, I've talked more about Jesus Christ the past
two weeks than I have my entire time in public office.
And he's a former senator as well. Donald Trump Junior
was up there and talked about how, you know, he
missed talking to his friend Charlie Kirk and how they
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would talk about some of the stuff that was on
social media, and Trump Junior said, even my father, I
know sometimes I get a little out of bounds on
social media and my dad will call me and go
dan getting into some trouble online. Let's rein it in on.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
He started doing an impersonation of his dad, which was
kind of fun. And then after Erica Kirk spoke, here
comes the President of the United States, and I thought,
and now this will be the opportunity for the media
to juxtapose some of the heartfelt things that we have
heard at this point with I'm sure President Trump won't
(08:32):
be able to help himself in front of a crowd
given this platform, being who he is. And bear in mind,
several other speakers, including Erica Kirk, had some funny comments
and lines and things that they said during their comments.
But if President Trump so much as cracks a smile,
the media will say, as Erica Kirk forgives the gunman,
(08:57):
President Trump says he hates his opponent, which is yes,
if you read the transcript or saw that headline, that's
exactly what happened. Are you interested in hearing how President
Trump said?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
That?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Does context mean anything?
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Does to me?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Here's President Trump yesterday at this event.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
He was a missionary with a noble spirit and a great,
great purpose. He did not hate his opponents.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
He wanted.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
The best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I hate my opponent and I don't want the best
for them.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I'm sorry, I am sorry, Erica. But now Erica can
talk to me and the whole group and maybe they
can convince me that that's not right. But I can't
stand my opponent.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So that's yeah. Jokingly smile on his face, President Trump
yesterday and people like oh, as Erica Kirk talks about
forgiveness and love, Trump comes up there and says, I
hate my opponents. Yes, that's what he said. You can
(10:12):
read into that however you want. I suspect that those
who even have you know less than a passing hatred
for Donald Trump. By the way, recognize that for what
it was. It was Trump acknowledging his shortcomings and his
differences and why he needed people like Charlie Kirk around him.
(10:32):
At least that's my read on the situation. That wasn't
Trump saying I'm better than Charlie Kirk because I hate
my opponents and that's how it should be. Because she said, yeah,
I'm sorry, And this is where Erica can talk to
me and you know, try and move me in a
different direction. But yeah, Trump is a new York brawler.
(10:57):
When it comes to a fight, he's like, and how
low can we punch as low as possible? That's that's
that style. That's a new it's more of a New
York thing than a Trump thing. And they're all they
all play that game. That's Trump. If you haven't figured
it out by now, I'm sure you'll have more opportunity
(11:20):
to do.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
So.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Here was the other thing President Trump said yesterday that
I was like, oh, I don't know, I don't know
about that. Trump suddenly started talking about. He said, Charlie
Kirk was there for the MAGA movement, make America great again,
but there's also make America healthy again. And then it
(11:41):
showed Robert Kennedy Junior on the screen, or at least
on the television feed, seeming to see what was coming.
And it almost looked to me, and maybe this was
my imagination, it looked like he was trying to sink
lower in his seat, like, oh, don't know, mister president,
don't do this year. You misunderstand what we're don't Okay,
(12:03):
he's President Trump's now up there saying, Yep, we cured
autism and we're gonna tell you about it tomorrow is
gonna be better, and people are like, wait, what all right? Now,
he didn't say we cured autism? What exactly was all
this about? Yesterday? He says, I think you're gonna find
(12:23):
it to be amazing. I think we found an answer
to autism. That's the quote quote. I think we found
an answer to autism. And you could just tell it
from Secretary Kennedy's face. He was like that this is
something else that President Trump does. I think someone will
give him some information. He will make it fifty times
(12:46):
better and then go tell everybody about it. That's I
don't know if that's a New York thing. That's definitely
a Trump thing. And sorry, but there was obviously something.
And now, whether they were or weren't, they are going
to this afternoon have a news conference about this. According
to people who purport to be familiar with the matter,
(13:09):
the Trump administration, Secretary Kennedy will warn that the use
of thailandol by women who are pregnant can can increase
the risk of autism, and they will advise them you
should only be taking a set of metaphin Thailand. All
this is, you know, the same would apply to They
don't mean to go after thailand All. That's a brand.
(13:31):
A set of menaphine is the active ingredient. There are
generic forms of a set of menaphine, and they're saying
you should only take this only for high fevers and
you should talk with your doctor. RFK Junior is going
to push for something else as a potential treatment to help.
(13:52):
I don't I don't know. There's there's a lot that
we don't know that I think hopefully will be revealed
more today. Thailanol has issued a statement quote, we believe
independent sound science clearly shows that taking a set of
metaphine does not cause autism. We strongly disagree with any
(14:13):
suggestion otherwise and are deeply concerned with the health risk
this poses for expecting mothers.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Unquote.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I don't know who would suddenly say like, oh I
took I probably took thailand All at some point during
my pregnancy and my kids autistic time to sue Tailanol,
I good luck with that. I don't know how any
of that would possibly work. There are some studies that
(14:41):
have shown no connection between asset of metaphine and autism.
Some other studies have suggested well, so at least the
administration here is looking at this link. Did they look
at it and find out enough here in eight months
(15:02):
to be able to come out here and say here's
what we I don't know. I just popped up during
the event yesterday. There will be more details to come
this afternoon. We will be following it here on eleven KFAB.
We will talk about arctic frost. This is what Senator
Chuck Grassley during the hearing the other day where Cash
(15:24):
Pateel was up there on Capitol Hill, he said, what
about arctic frost? This is where they're going after conservative
groups like Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk's organization. We'll talk
with Senator Grassley about that after a Fox News update
next Scott, It's always a pleasure to welcome on here
a senator from Iowa. Chuck Grassley to News Radio eleven
(15:46):
ten KFAB. Senator, good morning, A.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Good morning to you. And I watched on a football
on the weekend and I would have liked to big
red wind. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
I share yourself em on that one, Senator, but I
have a lot more thoughts on football. I will spare
you that diet tribe right now. But short answer is yes,
that would have been a good one to win. I
want to first not just welcome you onto the program,
but wish you a very happy birthday. Senator, you just
(16:20):
celebrated a birthday just last week. Happy birthday plus five
days all that, and when you get to be ninety two,
you start counting the days and months again. Is like,
I'm ninety two and a half, you know. But Senator,
what does one do to celebrate his ninety second birthday?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Well, obviously I was in Washington, DC. My wife was
in Iowa at the farm, and so it was kind
of of friends and staff meeting. But Joony Ernst gave
me a Dairy Queen Kate, Senator Smith gave me a
chocolate cake that was at least a foot across and
(17:04):
eight inches high. And I even had Sandra Britt bring
me some Dairy Queen blizzards because they all know that
I like Queen.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I guess so have you ever had the frozen hot
chocolate at Dairy Queen? I am so addicted to it.
I recommend that if you can, after you finish the
cake and the blizzard and everything else you got there
from DQ, Senator, I do want to go ahead.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
I'll try I'll try that sometimes.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, the frozen the frozen hot chocolate is amazing. I
do want to lean on your years here and just
let you talk for as long as you want on
this subject. We just here in the last couple of
weeks saw a strong conservative voice who's credited with leading
millions of people into being politically active, honestly on both
(17:56):
sides of the political spectrum. Charlie Kirk's murder, when he
was someone who welcomed descent, encouraged dissent, wanted people to
have conversations with him. To have that voice silenced is
a very sad thing for so many Americans, and it
caused other Americans to celebrate his death and mock those
(18:16):
who were mourning it. There was a beautiful funeral service
for him, a memorial service for him yesterday, and now
the country is wondering, well, where do we go from here?
Can you speak to in your years and wisdom to
what your thoughts are on what you've seen develop around
this story the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Well, first of all, as an individual, and what my
wife Barbara always says, it's so sad for the widow
and for the two kids, and I agree with that,
and that's a constant thought of my wife. Beyond that,
I guess I was completely surprised. Maybe I should have been,
(19:03):
but I was completely surprised by not only the turnout
the nights in a few days after the killing, of
the worldwide reaction to his death. And I hope that
the predictions that the widow first stated, and then every
(19:26):
speaker yesterday, because I watched all four or five hours
of it, that this is going to bring about a
real change in people's political involvement for the conservative cause.
And I hope that's right. But I am reminded of
(19:49):
how the country drew together on ninety eleven after the
towers went down, and it lasted about three or four months.
I hope that this brings about both the Christian revival
that was predicted and a political revival, not for the
(20:09):
benefit of conservatives, but for the benefit of America. That
we pull together and that we knew what Charlie Kirk
was trying to accomplish, particularly on our university campuses, that
we ought to be able to respect each other's views,
even if we violently disagree, and that we ought to
(20:35):
learn from each other's views, but we ought to discuss
it civilly and proceed in that manner, and I hope
that that's what his death brings back to America, that
we can talk to our people we disagree with, and
that we can do it civilly and we can accomplish
(20:57):
from learning from each other. Was Charlie Was Charlie Kirk'll
stop there, okay?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Was Charlie Kirk in your assessment a transformative figure? And
does he belong on the list with some of America's
other transformative figures socially politically of the last century.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
On the last question, I don't think I can answer.
I hope that he does, but I can't answer if
he actually will for now he does fit into that
list of people. Long term, I don't know, but I
do know this that I've been a conservative all my life,
(21:43):
and I respect the things that he was trying to
do to bring more civility to our discussions. But I
was just relieved in a sense, but also educating in
a sense that the impact that he was making in
(22:04):
this country and presumably somewhat around the world, that his
death had to bring that to my attention. I don't
say that out of anything about ignorance. It's just that
it took his death to wake me up to the
(22:25):
tremendous influence he was having. And I did watch him
on television quite a bit when he was particularly on
Channel A cable channel to hear what he had to
say and agreed with him. But I think it was
his death that had to bring to my attention his
impact in America, particularly among young people. Now that's also
(22:50):
true for the fact that you generally think that young
people don't have one of an interest in politics, and
those that are going to college are propagandized socialists and
(23:10):
by liberals generally, and so you don't think that they
have much to discuss because in the university environment, at
least in too many universities, it's a danger to your
success as a college student if you speak about those
conservative issues. But Kirk brings that to our attention, and
(23:35):
he obviously is making a tremendous impact, has made a
tremendous impact, and I think that impact is going to
sweep the country and hopefully for a long period of time.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
We have a few more minutes left here with Iowa
Senator Chuck Grassley. I have a few more things to
ask you about here on eleven ten kfab first among them,
in the wake of Jimmy Kimmel's being suspended on ABC
for making some grotesque comments in the wake of Charlie
Kirk's death. There are those that say that President Trump's
director of the Federal Communications Commission, the FCC, is putting
(24:14):
undue pressure on media in this country that if you
speak out against the president, you will be shut down
or fined. People say this is this is censorship coming
from the Trump administration. The President himself made some offhand
comment like they're not allowed to do that, you know,
be so anti Trump? What's going on here?
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Well? I was asked a question by journalists the day
it happened in wasshingt d C. Hey, let me give
you the same answer. The question was pretty much like
your question me right now. I said, if a CEO
of a corporation is making a decision business decision based
(24:59):
upon pressure from the government, they are not looking out
for their stockholders. They are being a very strong CEO
and it should be strictly a business decision. Now. The
government should not be doing anything to restrict speech. That's
got to be a decision within a business. But outside
(25:22):
of business, you can see you can say even hateful things.
I don't want people to say hateful things, But if
they do say hateful things, they've got a constitutional right
to do it, as long as it doesn't protect violent
action as a result of what they're saying.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Do you think a teacher like some we've seen in Iowa,
including the one who in Oscaloosa said one Nazi down
and now he's protesting being fired by a school district,
do you think a comment like that should get you
fired from being a teacher.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I think that that's a decision by the local school board.
But you have to abide by the rules of your employment,
and if you don't abide by those rules, you could
be fired.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I guess we'll find out that in court. You were
talking with the FBI director Cashptel the other day in
one of these hearings on Capitol Hill, and you mentioned
something called Arctic Frost. Please illuminate this for us.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, Artie Frost was in some cases that were started
by a special agent by the name of Timbo and
he was an FBI employee at the time, And the
whole purpose of Arctic Frost was to create a scenario
(26:41):
by which Jack Smith could charge the President of the
United States with violating federal law, and it was all
in an attempt to ruin Trump politically, even socially, and
even with the prospect that he would be put in jail.
How Peter Navarro was treated at his arrest, t Bow
(27:04):
was reported on his own email to say, quote unquote wow, great,
And you know how unfair that was, just for Peter Navarro,
not to her President Trump. And so it ended up
(27:26):
in all you'd heard about Trump being in court over
the last several years before he became president, last two
years before he became president. It was an attempt to
ruin him financially, an attempt to ruin him socially, an
attempt to ruin him politically, and even put him possibly
(27:50):
in jail. It didn't work out, but that's what Arnie
Cross was all about. And I had the possibility of
the all this stuff was secret until Trump gets in
and Cash Fettel cooperates with me and we get it
all declassified and get this information out of the public.
(28:12):
Now it's history in a sense, but it's history that
we don't want to repeat, and transparency brings accountability and
we don't want this to happen again. And the public
ought to know how the FBI has been used to
pleadly ruin the President of the United States at a
time when he wasn't president of the United States, and they.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Were looking at Turning Point USA Charlie Kirk's organization as well.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Right, Oh, yeah, that was another bit of information that
I put out. Not only were they going after Trump
to get him in court, but they also were going
after ninety two different Conservative Republican RNC, Charlie Kirk, and
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I don't know how many other people, but it was individuals,
nonprofit organizations and stuff. So it was the same thing
that law Learner was trying to do in the Obama
administration under the IRS was to put tramp down and
put an end to a lot of conservative organizations. It's
another example of the political weaponization of government against the
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American people. We also think that what Nixon was doing
at Watergate was wrong, and it was wrong, but that
was all in the private sector. It wasn't any government
forces used by Nixon against his opponents, whereas this was
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all of big government lined up to ruin Trump and
to ruin conservative organizations and to ruin the Republican logo.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Senator, I'll let you get back at your work. I
really appreciate the time today as always, and I'm so
glad to hear you had a nice birthday last week.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
God blesh it, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
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