September 16, 2025 • 52 mins
The good, the bad, and the fireable in the social media world the past few days
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
News Radio eleven ten kfab I am Scott for he
is Lucy Chapman as Lucy Chapman, and thank goodness for that.
We yesterday were covering a headline that said, since the
assassination of Charlie Kirk, it's become clear there's no way
to talk about this issue without upsetting somebody. That's according
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to some expert on political and social interaction on online platforms.
I don't know how much of an expert this person
is in the reality, and I admit I kind of
glossed over that yesterday, because then we are The basis
of the story is some celebrities, Chris Pratt and Kristin
Chenowith among them, had the audacity to suggest that they
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were upset and heartbroken, even when Kristin Chenowith said didn't
always agree but appreciated some perspectives when she said I'm
so upset and added a broken heart emoji in talking
about the murder of Charlie Kirk, and immediately the backlash was,
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I thought you cared about your LGBTQ fans, or people
of color or liberals or how whatever people thought there
and Kristin Chenna with Broadway singer actress really fun. She's
also a person of faith, and she saw someone murdered
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because of their faith. Everyone who is a person of
faith or not kind of goes about that life their
own way. There are some people who are of faith
who are much more public about it, some you might argue,
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or a little confrontational about it. Hey, happy holidays, it's Christmas,
very Christmas. What are you doing? Okay? Sorry? And certainly
there are people who are not a faith and some
are very private about it, and some are very confrontational
about it. But Kristin chenne with Who Loves the Lord,
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saw another person who, as we noted yesterday, he wasn't killed.
Charlie Kirk wasn't killed because of his conservative thoughts on
the budget. It was his deeply rooted religious convictions that
helped shape his political worldview, and he would address that
openly publicly. And so Kristin Chennawi noted that and said
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she was heartbroken, said I'm so upset. Didn't always agree,
but appreciated some perspectives, and her fans, many of them,
were furious. But that headline again, it says since the
assassination of Charlie Kirk, it's become clear that there's no
way to talk about this issue without upsetting somebody. I
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think that's a true headline. But what does it say
if you're one of those who went out on social
media and said what a horrible tragedy, thoughts and prayers
for his family, whatever, and someone sees that and they're upset.
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Is that on you? If you suggest that maybe people
shouldn't be murdered and someone's like, hey, I'm really upset
by what you said. Because Charlie Kirk, in all of
his whether it's on the radio or in public or
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as guests on television stations, the man talked publicly for
several hours just about every single day for years. It's
not completely crazy to think that if you let someone
talk long enough, they might say some things you agree with,
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and they might say some things that not only would
you disagree with, that they would look back on and go,
I don't like the way I said that, or I
don't know that I should have said that. You might
note that I said that thing a few years ago
and then stop saying it. I said at one time,
it didn't become part of my thing. I didn't shout
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it out at a rally, so everyone could cheer for
this line. I said something and then I thought differently
about it and didn't say that. You know, you, I
don't know how much you talk to people, but when
you talk to people for an entire lifetime, whether it's
in the media or not, you're going to say something
that you regret. I look forward to doing that this
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morning and have to apologize tomorrow it happens. But boy,
I would just really hate for someone to key in
on something you said years ago that you think, well,
that defines who that person is. Never mind the fact
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that they've talked for hours and hours and hours and
hours about different things since then. They said that one thing,
and there are some things that are more difficult to
excuse or forgive than others. But back to Charlie, if
you have if you go out on social media and say,
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I think it's awful that this man was murdered, especially
when he was trying to encourage people who disagreed with
him to have a conversation with him and to kill
this guy for that. This is inexcusable. This is not
who we should be. And then it says, well, it's
become clear there's no way to talk about this issue
without upsetting somebody. If you just say that what I
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just said and somebody gets upset, how's that my fault?
That's on you, that's in your heart, that's in your soul. Now,
there have certainly been people online over the past almost
week now who have said some incredibly vile and illegal
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things online. The people, the number of people who not
only were celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder, mocking his death and
those who were affected by it, but also saying, hey,
you know who we should target next and throwing names
out there, including the President of the United States, just
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casually just say hey, do him next, like it's not
a big deal and it's okay to say this stuff.
And whether it's the president or just another commentator you
don't agree with, there are a number of people out
there saying, hey, great, here's someone else you should put
on your list. If you're putting together a list, here's
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someone what else you should be on there? And mocking
faith and so forth. And now someone I forget. I
don't know who to credit this to, but I saw
this posted last night on social media. Because I can't
help it. I like half open one eye and open
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up social media and kind of look at it to go,
what am I gonna find here? And here's what I found.
It says, if you believe people deserve to be shot
for their opinions, don't cry when you get fired for yours.
There are a number of people out there, and in fact,
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there's something now called the Charlie Kirk Data Foundation which
says they've received this is as of yesterday, upwards of
sixty thousand submissions. And this story says submission about Kirk critics. No, no, no, no, no,
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This is not about Kirk critics. Not the kind of
people that would want to grab a microphone at one
of his events and have a nice little conversation with him,
or even someone who would yell at him about a
political point. These are not Kirk critics who are being
quote turned in. These are people in positions of authority.
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And why is it sad how many of them are
teachers who were celebrating, mocking suggesting that someone else, including
the president, should be taken care of in this manner
as well. These are not Kirk critics. These are people
who I'll try and give a little bit of grace.
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Maybe had a really bad day and posted something stupid.
I know some people who did that and they've removed
their post afterwards. I said this last week, and people
laughed at me. I said, look, I'm not here. This
was last thursday. I said, I'm not here to say
and I'll tell you what this person said, and I'll
tell you what this one. This person I'm not. I
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wasn't doing it, I said. It is my hope that
people think about what they posted and say I would
rather that didn't define who I am and I'm not
proud of that post and remove it. And a lot
of people have. Now, some people have because they're like, oh,
I could get fired for this. Yeah, yeah you could.
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It happens social media posts leading to someone getting fired.
M can't think of any Oh wait, so these things happen. Now,
if you're a person in position of authority with young
minds that you're shaping as a teacher, yes, it is
reasonable to assume that someone might have an issue with that.
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And if you think, I don't know why, freedom of speech,
first amendment, that's not what the first first amendment is. Yeah,
you can say that without fear of being thrown in jail, unless,
of course, you suggest we should assassinate the president, which
a lot of people just thought they'd better casually do
that Secret Service is going to be busy. But the
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first Amendment is you can say these vile things, but
it doesn't give you freedom from repercussions for your statements
or the impact that it has on your employer. So
for those who think, hey, this kind of expression, you
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might not like it, but that's what freedom of speech
allows in this country, all right. Would those of you
if if all this were switched around and you had
a very important left leaning political figure who was murdered
for his or her views by some guy who fit
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the maga stereotype to your perfect tea, and then you
saw a bunch of maga people online or you saw
them going yeah, which, by the way, there would be
some of that in it, and I would be defriending
those people on social media too. But you switch all
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this around and you learn that your kid's teacher was
one of those who was celebrating the murder and said, hey, yeah,
how about this person get the next bullet? This is great.
Any of you people said about this, you guys are
wrong and terrible, and this is your kid's teacher, would
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you feel like, oh, hey, you know freedom of expression,
you know, the hey, exchange of ideas, might not like
it all the time. Is that really the feeling you
would have? You know, you wouldn't because that's it's okay
to say I don't want someone with that in their
heart educating young people. Or there are some businesses and
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newspapers that are getting some negative attention for all this stuff.
But there's also one who happens to play volleyball for
the University of Nebraska. And now, I don't know what
by the time this news got back to you about
Harper Murray, I don't know what you think this situation
looks like. I'll tell you what I know, and I'll
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definitely tell you what I think in just a couple
of minutes.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Scott Voriez NewsRadio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I just spent the last I don't know however many minutes, hours, days, years,
talking about the online reaction to Charlie Kirk's death, which
has been celebrated mocked by way too many people. And
now there are people saying, and here's this person who
said this, here's the screen shad to what they said,
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here's where they work. Turns out they're a teacher, and
they hold it up to their employer and say, is
this the kind of person you want to employ? What
people are gonna do, what they're gonna do. The only
immediate caution I have to it is, do you have
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any idea how easy it is to fake what someone
posts online? I've done it in hilarious fashion a number
of times on my social media pages. Or did you
think that was a real picture of me and the
former Omaha Public School superintendent posing nude together? And in
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case you're like what, it's a long story, it was
a fake picture. Lucy Chapman, your thoughts not on what
I just said, but on all this stuff here about
people going, hey, I got the freedom expressed myself.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, you absolutely do, except in the cases that you
pointed out that it becomes illegal when it evolves a
president or a threat to somebody's life. A direct threat
to somebody's life, I'm the whole somebody, somebody somebody is next.
It's really right on that line, because it's not saying
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you want it done, You're going to do it, So
that's really on the line. But you got to remember
that we've got freedom of speech and the silver lining
of this is that now we know who you are,
now we don't have to be friends with you. I
don't have to be triggered, I don't have to be offended.
You didn't say it to me, But I don't want
to be your friend.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, it's definitely changed. I don't want you teaching my kids, right,
it's definitely changed a few relationships, Like I've got, uh
whatever number of Facebook friends and followers, and however all
that stuff works thousands of people. I think I personally
know approximately twelve of them, and do they know you? No,
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I don't know how some of these people. I unfriended
another person last night because of some really hateful stuff
that was posting. I'm like, I don't even recognize this
guy's name, and I looked them up and he lives
in Tennessee. I'm like, I don't know who this is.
You're gone, you know. And then I have this quick
fantasy that he sees that I unfriended him, which, by
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the way, you don't see on Facebook. But he manages
to figure it out and then he's like, man, I
need to change my ways. That guy unfriended me. Maybe
I should. None of that happens it's just a fleeting thought.
But there are some people who I know personally and
I adore who either posted some I mean, if they
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posted anything that was super vile, that would be personally,
that would be cause for me to have a personal
conversation with them, and I wouldn't light them up on
Facebook or whatever. Some people for just like yeah, but
let's not forget Charlie Kirk said, yeah, thank you for
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letting me know. Those are more of an I'll just
choose to unfollow you. That's where we stay friends, quote unquote.
But I don't see your posts, but I'll remember for
the next couple of years when it comes up on
your birthday, I might not wish you a happy birthday
because it still stings. Do you think they care? No? No,
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I think they know no, but I do and whatever.
So have you heard, Lucy some of this give and
take this stuff online about the Husker volleyball player Harper Murray,
And if so, what's your impression about what she did
or said online related to Charlie Kirk. That has so
many people, including a lot of Husker fans, especially volleyball fans,
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so upset.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I didn't see it. I tried I tried to find it,
and I found a screenshot, but you couldn't enlarge it.
I couldn't read it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
The screenshot of her face kind of looking like, Oh,
I want to say something, but I can't say anything,
and then little idyobity words on it is that Okay, Yeah,
that's the only thing I've seen.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And I don't know what it says.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It says something like I really want to share a
bunch of these TikTok, suggesting some sort of something she
was seeing. But I live in Nebraska, so it wouldn't
go over very well or so. I don't have the
exact word, and I can find it if you want.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
But it was we know it was definitely.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
We don't know about. We don't know what the subject was.
Now here's what someone Here's what someone saw before everything
was cleansed.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Someone said that she had reposted on one of these
social media platforms, someone who at least expressed a passing
disinterest and in Charlie Kirk's death, almost like I didn't
like the guy, so I don't have to feel bad
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about him being killed. And she allegedly had reposted that,
and then at some point there was the post that
we still see from her teammate, Rebecca Alec. Rebecca Alec,
in addition to being a fantastic volleyball player, is one
of those like the softball player Jordi Ball, who have
spoken out politically in the past year. When you saw
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these Husker athletes say stand up for women in sports.
For example, the tall one is Rebecca Alec.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
And aren't they all tall?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well not always, but yeah volleyball, it doesn't hurt. So
she's stood. She has put herself out there as I'm
a Christian and I have these views. So she posted
a quote from Pope Saint John Paul the Second Pope
Saint John Paul the Second that said quote, we must
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defend the truth at all costs, even if we are
reduced to just twelve again, and then posted some stuff
about how heart burning it was what happened to Charlie Kirk.
The quote has to do with we have to stand
up for Jesus even if we look around and realize
there's still we're back to the original twelve disciples. We
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must defend the truth at all costs, even if we
are reduced to just twelve again, even if it looks
like everyone else around you as caving or staying quiet.
It's important to provide that witness and testimony. Now, Rebecca
Alec still has comments coming on her Instagram post on this,
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and many of them are pretty ugly. The allegation was
that her teammate Harper Murray went through and liked the
ugly ones, whether the ugly comments were directed at Charlie
Kirk or personally at her teammate Rebecca Alec, and the
allegation was that she'd reposted this social media thing that
was at least saying I don't have to care about
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Charlie Kirk's death. And then the one we saw here
was her saying, you know, I want to post all
this stuff, but I live in Nebraska, so it wouldn't
be it wouldn't go over Well, that's the only thing
I've seen that's a screenshot of what she posted was
that one. It has her face on it, and it
at least suggests I think that a lot of people
in Nebraska are a bunch of knuckle dragon mouth breathing
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simpleton rednecks.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Is she being forced to live here?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Is she being forced?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
No? And she makes a lot of money being on
that team, and she's supported by aforementioned mouth breathing knuckle
dragon Maga Rednecks who support the Husker athletic program. So
here's what I know. After all of this, whatever post
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that was reposted about at least showing a disinterest in
Kirk's death has been deleted. The afore mentioned yeah, but
I live in Nebraska, so that post has been deleted,
not before someone is able to screenshot it. And the
allegations that she was going through there and liking vile
posts about Charlie Kirk and against her teammate Rebecca Alec,
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she has. If that's what she did, she has undid it.
She has also on her Instagram page allowed for comments
to be severely limited, so you'll see, like I checked
today and there's a great picture of her as a
Husker volleyball player, and all the comments are incredibly flattering
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and celebratory. Harper, You're the best, Harper, You're so cute, Harper,
go big red and all that stuff, and then you
look at the bottom and says comments on these posts
has been limited. There are certainly people who are saying,
probably pro and negative things related to whatever views she
may or may not have about Charlie Kirk, she has
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limited those things. Rebecca Alex's Instagram page still is a
free for all. You can say whatever you want. I
don't think that you're going to cause Rebecca alec and
her faith to be changed, swayed, dented at all. You
want to say what you want to say. Okay, here
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you go if that's what you feel you need to do.
And I hope that the Lord meets you where you
are and tries to pull you out of this dark
place you're in now. She didn't say that, but I
don't know that she would disagree with my sentiment. Now.
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She hasn't taken anything down off social media. Harper Murray
allegedly if she did, all that stuff has undone it. Again.
What I say last week, it is my hope that
if people feel like they need to post that stuff,
that they look back on it later and Gough not
what I want to do now. Motivations for undoing it,
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I don't know. I can guess. I don't know. Here's
what I know. That was all going on on Friday afternoon.
Nebraska Volleyball played a match on Friday evening, and people
who were at the Devani Center early to see the
match saw Harper Murray and Rebecca Alec hugging each other.
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Neither has said anything about the other. The program has
not had a statement about it. It looks like this
has been resolved internally and that team is moving on
hopefully as a team. That's how it should happen. So
as far as I'm concerned, unless she wants to make
it a bigger case, my current case is closed on
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the Harper Murray situation. Now, I don't work for Adidas.
I don't pay her money. Maybe I'd want to have
a conversation with her if I did, but I don't,
so I won't.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I want to when you would get a chance to
come back to your description and I don't know if
it was yours or theirs of disinterested?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Okay, happy to We'll do that after a Fox News update.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Next Scots News Radio eleven ten k FA.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I said a moment ago that there are several people
online posting either vile hatred in the way could Charlie
Kirk's death, mocking him and those who are mourning him,
or they're at least posting a disinterest in his death. Now,
I had a little miniature rant on that point yesterday,
but I want to see if Lucy has the same impression, because,
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if I'm not mistaken, you said a moment ago that
you wanted to come back to something I said, and
it was about those expressing disinterest.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You had a rant about that yesterday.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Miniature with disinterest. Yes, huh, but we'll see here, there's
no idea, there's let's see if we're on the same page. Though.
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Oh, I thought you were going to tell me something more,
because you are the host disinterested.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You know who's disinterested.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You mentioned that some of the people had talked about
being just disinterested with Charlie Kirk's death, being disinterested in
his death. I think that there's nothing wrong with that.
Believe it or not. There are people who never heard
of Charlie Kirk. They have no connection to him whatsoever.
The problem comes when you're disinterested with the brutal murder,
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the assassination, public assassination of somebody just because of what
they thought and what they believed. If you're disinterested in that,
that's where the problem comes in.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Well, not just disinterested. Here was my little rand yesterday.
I understand where you can't get emotionally and you just
you can't get emotionally invested in everything that happens. Is
Charlie Kirk's life on its face worth more than anyone else's.
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I could probably make an argument that it is, But
for sake of that argument, let's say it's not and
someone else. People get hurt, murdered, they die, and horrible
things happen to good people all the time. Horrible things
happen to horrible people all the time. And if you
were to like, all right, a person died, we're putting
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the flags that have staff and we're all going to
engage in national mourning, we'd never come out of it.
It's you can't. I mean, I don't know some people
are able to. And I would think of people like
emergency room staff who every single it's not like someone
in an emergency room, and a lot of members of
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the military and law enforcement and so forth, most of
their day is not someone coming in whistling a tune, going, hey,
just want to let you know everything's great. You guys
are the best. We'll see you later, Okay, thanks, thanks
for stopping by. Usually it's people running in bleeding and screaming,
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and you have to fix it. And sometimes you can't
and it's just one atrocity after another. And how these
people are able to go back to that environment every
day is I think it's angelic what they're able to do,
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because they're able to remove what they feel emotionally from
what they need to do professionally.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I hope so. Yeah, But I've seen I have seen
comments also from doctors, not a lot, thankfully, but and
nurses that we're celebrating this death. I'm sure it's one
thing for a teacher to do it. And I would
absolutely pull my kid out of that class sim because
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of the lack of empathy if she had if this
teacher had so much, such a lack of empathy for
the human race that she would celebrate something so brutal,
so just awfully horribly wrong. If you're gonna celebrate that, yeah,
I'm gonna pull my kid out. You know, you might
be a good teacher, but I don't want any of that, right.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But doctors, oh yeah, well as I and.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
You're gonna go into this er. What if the doctor
finds out you're a Christian or that you are against whatever,
is he going to treat you differently?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I hope not. I don't know. There are thousands of
people out there, and each of them is going to
act a little bit differently, And yeah, there'll be some
people that act very very poorly. I'm not willing to
throw an entire I'm not either. They're very very few,
I understand, you know. But if you go in there
and uh, you're like, I have a head wound, You're like, yeah,
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you got that maga hat on, that's a head wound.
I'm not treating you. You know. Well, now we have
something else to talk about. But I think I did
a little bit of this on the show yesterday, maybe
it was Friday. But these people, teachers, doctors, who have
been celebrating Charlie Kirk's death, they feel like, yeah, because
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someone just killed Hitler. These people have made it their
mission to let you know that people like Donald Trump
and Charlie Kirk and all their followers and sympathizers, these
are horrible people who want to kill gay people, especially
gay children. They hate black people and love it when
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white police officers murder them. And in the case of
the medical community, these are COVID deniers and anti vaxers
who want your grandma to die. They have made that
their mission for years now. And when they've decided that
person is responsible for this sentiment that I've either manufactured
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or firmly believe, and then that person's gone, they feel like, oh, okay,
someone just killed Hitler. Now we can all live in harmony.
But I want to go back to what I think
the root of this conversation was, and that was the
people who need to go on social media and say, hey,
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I don't I don't feel anything for Charlie Kirk's death.
I didn't. I didn't know the guy. I didn't like
everything he said, So don't expect me to be real
sorry about it. Okay, that's not You're no longer a
disinterested party, your person that shows up like stick your
head into a funeral service and just stick your head
in there and go, hey, I don't know that guy,
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and so I don't care to letting you guys know,
everyone know this is me, this is my profile on
social media, and just letting you all you mourners in
here who are sad and weepy and crying and all that.
Sorry to interrupt by just letting you know, I don't
know that guy, and there are probably some things that
he said I wouldn't agree with. So I don't care.
That guy's dead, all right, we'll see you. And then
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when the mourners follow him out in the parking lot
and go, hey, wait a second, what's the matter with you?
That person has the audacity to act surprised, Hey, what's
your problem? I just said I didn't care. It's it's
the way I mean, it's one thing to pass you
ever pass a uh you like? You go into like hefi, hef, hefe, hefe,
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hefe and hefi and there's several different rooms and you
have to find That's why there's always nice people out
there saying, which funeral service are you looking for? And
they can take you to the right room, because you
don't want to go into the wrong room and then
go up there and go who's this? You know? So
you walk by, Yeah, what happened to uncle Joe? You don't?
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Where was are you? Sorry? I was gonna say something else,
and I thought, no, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't when
you're trying to find the funerals, nervous and all that stuff.
I don't know. I think I probably I probably lost.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
It, but we were you started with this interest.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Oh, I'm just I think I was just when you
you walk by. Yeah, this is what I was saying,
going to say thank you. You walk by a funeral
service and you don't know anyone in there, and you
don't know the person who died, but you hear the
music and you see the look on people's faces and
they're grief stricken. And I always look by and I go, huh, sorry,
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I didn't know that person. You know, when you and
I'm gonna get to know his family. I bet there
are snacks afterwards. You know. That's a good thing about
crashing a funeral meat loaf.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Oh, potatoes, funeral potatoes.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Right, sorry, Deli sandwiches. It's a matter with you, you know,
just I mean, you just walk by a group people
who are mourning, and there are some people who, apparently
based on their online activity, feel compelled to just walk
in there and go I don't care. Now you're no
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longer disinterested. You have interjected yourself into the conversation. And
there are a number of people who have been fired.
There are probably even more people who will be fired.
As I mentioned earlier this hour, there's the website the
Charlie Kirk Data Foundation, which has received sixty thousand plus
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submissions about people who have said pretty bad things about
Charlie Kirk. Attorney General Pam Bondi was on Fox News
last night with Sean Hannity, and she was pointing out
that there are some people who the federal government is
interested in speaking with based on some of their actions
more than just social media posts in the wake of
Charlie Kirk's deaths. She said businesses cannot discriminate. She said,
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here was a worker at a place that you can
go and they will make copies for you. I do
not mean a local business too. It's a nationwide but
it has a local office. There are local people that
work there. I don't need to paint all of them
with the same brush. But a worker at one of
these places in Michigan, someone went there and had some
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pro Charlie Kirk flyers that they wanted to have printed. Now,
the person could have just said how many do you want,
and then printed them and handed them over in exchange
for money. This worker did not. I'm not gonna print
those discriminating against this person for their politics. She says.
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There are civil rights units looking into stuff like this,
and there will be issues that will be made with
some of these people. Now, some have said, how come
the local Republican Party didn't do a vigil or something
for Charlie here in Omaha. I'll address that next. The
local Republican Party did have a vigil for Charlie Kirk.
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But wait, hey, I didn't hear anything. I know you
didn't hear anything about it unless you're on the direct
communication list with the leaders of the local Republican Party,
the Douglas County Republican Party. Now, yes, just a quick
bringing you up to speed. The leadership of the state
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and County Republican Party has changed a little bit over
the years. You've got the more old guard country club,
the Republican types who had been in charge for a
long time, who felt like, hey, these upstart maga people,
the tea partiers and all that, they're cute, we need
them in all, but we're not going to let them
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take charge of anything. And then it got kind of ugly.
And then that smaller group got bigger and bigger, and
then they decided, we're tired of being ignored by the
establishment conservatives. We're going to come into your conventions and
take over. And they did. And so now that leadership
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is in charge of the County Republican Party, the state
Republican Party, which is why sometimes you'll like last year,
you'll have an election and you'll have an incumbent Republican
and the Republican party in the area says, don't vote
for this incumbent Republican and other people are like, what
is going on? So that's the current leadership, and they did.
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They're definitely there. I don't speak for all of them.
I don't speak for any of them, but I feel comfortable,
insane that they're they're officionados of Charlie Kirk and that
for which he stood. And so they did have a
vigil the night that he was killed. And I asked them, now,
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was it the night before? Maybe it was the night after. Yeah,
I think it was the night after, because someone reached
out to me and said, hey, FYI, and they give
me the details about this, and I said, do you
want to come on the radio and promote this so
people can be a part of it. We can talk
about what you're doing. And it was decided by this
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particular person who is not the leader of the party.
They told me, no, we're keeping this one quiet. We
just don't want to deal with protesters and agitators, so
we're not telling everybody when we want to just get
together and have a quiet vigil, which I can get.
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I know now that you've had almost a week to
process all of this, I know you're thinking, I want
them to you know, deal, let's take let's meet the
agitators head on. That's what Charlie Kirk would have done.
And okay, yes, and it's not like the local Republican
Party is probably just gonna say we're just gonna do
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everything in secret from now on and no one's ever
gonna do anything publicly. Ever. Again, I don't think that's
their stance. We'll see, but I don't think that's their stance.
But in the hours after, I mean I got the
message from this person within a couple of hours of
learning that Charlie Kirk had died and they were going
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to do something the following night, I guess. I mean
in those hours, in those quiet hours, that's the time
when you want to get together and have a quiet vigil.
You don't want to be forced to it and be
tempted to go across the street and slug somebody. At
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least most people don't, you know, it's very personally weird
for me. I get people who will to size this
radio show for any number of reasons. But my favorite
criticism of this radio show is when we're talking about
(39:07):
something stupid. Pick a day. But last week, I think
probably last week, at this time, I was screaming and
yelling and hollering about some insignificant little issue here at work,
and Lucy and I were fighting about it, and the
more we thought about it, the more fun I was having.
(39:28):
And people were emailing. And here's my favorite criticism of
the show. People were emailing, going, wow, must be a
slow news day. I always if I don't respond in
an email to you, I at least quickly respond in
my head. Yes, I mean there aren't very many anymore.
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And if I choose to talk about something that doesn't
have to do with whatever Trump is up to, by
the way, he's been a little quiet the last few
days Memphis. All right, maybe not that quiet, but hasn't
gotten the attention. But yeah, if we choose to do
something else, it's usually because it is a day where
the news is such that I can get away with it,
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meaning people aren't dying and things aren't ugly and on
fire and there aren't people with this tirade of angry
social media post or trying to you know. So, yeah,
I like this. I like a so called slow news
day because it's been anything but since Wednesday afternoon. But
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what's very weird to me personally is I was pretty
stressed out before all this happened, and I was really
really low on patience in my personal and professional life.
And there's quite a bit of blur between the two.
I think for a lot of people, I don't know
(40:59):
what's over me in the last week since all this happened,
or so. I have been not every single moment of
every single day, but I have been abundantly patient, and
I have been filled with giving other people grace. It
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won't last, I would say, for like my son, who
rather than nitpick about okay, so I told you please,
there's an empty bottle, like an empty gatorade bottle that
you put on the table over here, as though it
was decoration, and I asked you to put it away.
Not only did you not throw it away. Now we
(41:42):
have an empty water bottle right next to it, like
it's a collection that you've started, and you think that
here on the kitchen counter is the place for it.
You are mistaken, you know. Rather than that, I would
just go and look at the bottles and go, oh,
that little scamp, and I just throw them in the recycling.
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Like I said, it won't last. And if you're like
my son, or you're Lucy and someone who has to
spend some time with me from time to time, I
would say, enjoy it while it lasts. But I'm trying
to make it last.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Are you saying it's because of the events of the
last week, Yes, Okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, I don't, and I don't. I can't really put
my finger on it, but I've it's changed me and
I'm trying to make it change me for the better.
And it started that night when I went home and
my knee jerk reaction was just to sit off by
myself and I didn't want to talk to anybody. And
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then and that's how I started that night. And then
I said, this is not what your soul is telling you.
It needs, it needs sustenance. So I went and sat
down next to my wife, who was watching something I
didn't care about, and I just hung out with her,
and I asked my son if he'd you know, I
(43:12):
don't remember. I think we ended up playing like a
video game, but that I knew he was going to
destroy me in the video game, and he did, laughing
at me, at me while he did so, and I
did it laughing with him. Sometimes that upsets me when
he is mocking me as he's beating me in a
video game. But I loved it. I don't know, Like
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I said, I don't know how long it's gonna last.
But I'll tell you what I haven't been doing. I
haven't been going on social media and saying anything about
any of this to anybody. Seems like everyone else is
taking care of that. I don't need to go wading
into all of that sludge. Right now. I get a
(43:58):
chance to share my thoughts on the radio and in
some instances read your emails, which I will do next.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Scott Bodies News Radio eleven ten Kfab.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Scott atkfab dot com. That's how you email here during
these into the Zonker's custom was inbox Adam emails and
says hello, h I Adam. Those who are walking the
line between celebration and apathy are missing something very critical,
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and that is the need to extend sympathy to those
around you who are hurting. To be surrounded by people
who are upset about something and have an overwhelming desire
to tell them that you don't care is a hallmark
of a I can't say that name on the radio,
will say a hallmark of a jerk or if you
(44:51):
prefer a joke. Yes, Adam, I agree with your assessment,
and I agree with the word you you used, even
if I can't say that on the radio. But yeah,
to be surrounded by people who are upset about the
death of Charlie Kirk and have an overwhelming desire to
tell them that you're mocking their grief or that you
(45:13):
don't care about And these are people that you ostensibly
care about. And I know there's less and less of
that going on there, But like the people who say
that on their social media, do you think you're only
surrounded by people who agree with you politically, including your
(45:35):
hardline Yes, ugly political stances like not caring if a
guy is murdered. Did you really feel like, Hey, I'm
gonna say this to all my Facebook friends. I got
three hundred Facebook friends and it's a cultivation of family
and friends and co workers and former co workers and
people I knew in school, and some of these people
(45:58):
and other people I know professionally. I'm just gonna tell
them all, I'm glad Charlie Kirk's dead. Did you think
every single one of them was like, yeah, maybe. I mean,
people do a very careful job of cultivating their social
media followers. I don't, or at least I haven't. But
(46:20):
over the past week it's been all right, who's the
next man up? Because after you unfriend somebody, then you
can add someone to that group if you're already full up.
So I like this person, I don't know this person,
and I am willing to let them have their own
little fun on their own little page, but they're not
gonna have it here, and so unfriend next man up, Melissa.
(46:45):
All Right, welcome Melissa. You're now in the Facebook party.
I haven't been doing a lot of that, but every
time I go on Facebook, I bet I can find
one or two. And isn't it interesting that, even as
I've told Facebook, because you can click an X on
there and say I don't care about this post, I
(47:06):
don't care about this content, and then the next day
Facebook's like, is this what you wanted to see here's
another person that you don't know who you're connected to
on Facebook who said this horrible thing about Charlie Kirk.
It got one like and two comments. Is this what
you wanted to see first up on your page? No, Facebook,
(47:28):
Not only do I think that you're mistaken, I think
you're doing this on purpose. And it's very tempting to
just delete my account. But if I do that, then
the terrorists win, I understand. Were some people, among them
Marjorie Taylor Green, Republican representative from Georgia, some people as
(47:54):
I made mention of this on the radio the other
day and Lucy gave me a look like, wow, that's
a sad reality. But it was on Thursday morning, which
was also the anniversary of nine to eleven, and I
was talking about how it felt like the country was
pretty well galvanized twenty four years ago in the wake
of the attacks. Twenty four years later, the attack on
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Charlie Kirk has not galvanized everybody. If anything, it's illuminated
the divide. And I said, do you feel like we're
closer as a nation to coming together or are we
a close? Are we closer to a civil war? Sadly,
(48:37):
it feels to me like we're closer to I don't
want to say that I think we're close to, but
I think we're much closer to a civil war than
we would rallying around each other and looking out for
each other as Americans if something bad happened, In fact,
if nine to eleven happened today, you would see the
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same people on social media cheering that it happened to
Trump's America on his watch. And this is what he
and his voters deserve. As much as it makes me
sick to my stomach to say that we would see
that today, I don't know what we would have seen
(49:19):
had we had social media in September of two thousand
and one. I don't know. I mean, it didn't feel like, oh,
it was a simpler time, was it. I don't know.
Do we just not know or feel emboldened to have
a thought like that and realize, Hey, if I share
this on social media, everyone's gonna have some reaction to it,
(49:41):
and I'll be the center of attention for a few minutes.
I don't know. But Marjorie Taylor Green has reignited her
call for a national divorce. Here's where the Red States
are here's where the blue states are. No as much
as there are people on both sides of that spectrum
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that would say, hey, why not, let's do it? You know,
why not because California would be a blue state and
I want to go play Pebble Beach someday. That's why.
What are we gonna do? Like you're, hey, you're going
from Nebraska to Florida, red state to red state, but
you got to drive through blue state to get there.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
They'd still let you in.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
What are we talking about? Is that really where we
get And you're Pollyannic if you don't think, yeah, I
do believe we can get there, I certainly hope not.
But you can see it from here, can't you. Now?
I think that wanting to start a civil war, like
all these these people who are going on social media
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and saying, yeah, I'm glad he's dead and I wish
all of his supporters were dead with him and all,
then we should start a civil war at whatever it
is that they're thinking. I think that's probably a pretty
bad idea for them to do. I mean, just looking
at stereotypically over here, you've got a prepper with a
full cash of weapons in his basement, who's been waiting
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his whole life for this moment. He's flying a snake
flag in his yard, and there are a lot of
people like him saying, oh yeah, the whole militia thing.
I've been waiting for this, let's go. He knows eighty
seven different ways to kill you. On the other side,
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you got a person that says I hate guns. They're
flying a rainbow flag. They know eighty seven different ways
to tell you that how many genders there are. I
just don't think that it would go very well. So
for all the reasons in the world, let's not do that,
and let's not wait for another nine to eleven to
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find some way to come together. See that was the
grace talking that I mentioned earlier. Enjoy it, Yeah, enjoy
it while at last might be gone by tomorrow.
News Radio eleven ten kfab I am Scott for he
is Lucy Chapman as Lucy Chapman, and thank goodness for that.
We yesterday were covering a headline that said, since the
assassination of Charlie Kirk, it's become clear there's no way
to talk about this issue without upsetting somebody. That's according
(00:20):
to some expert on political and social interaction on online platforms.
I don't know how much of an expert this person
is in the reality, and I admit I kind of
glossed over that yesterday, because then we are The basis
of the story is some celebrities, Chris Pratt and Kristin
Chenowith among them, had the audacity to suggest that they
(00:43):
were upset and heartbroken, even when Kristin Chenowith said didn't
always agree but appreciated some perspectives when she said I'm
so upset and added a broken heart emoji in talking
about the murder of Charlie Kirk, and immediately the backlash was,
(01:03):
I thought you cared about your LGBTQ fans, or people
of color or liberals or how whatever people thought there
and Kristin Chenna with Broadway singer actress really fun. She's
also a person of faith, and she saw someone murdered
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because of their faith. Everyone who is a person of
faith or not kind of goes about that life their
own way. There are some people who are of faith
who are much more public about it, some you might argue,
(01:45):
or a little confrontational about it. Hey, happy holidays, it's Christmas,
very Christmas. What are you doing? Okay? Sorry? And certainly
there are people who are not a faith and some
are very private about it, and some are very confrontational
about it. But Kristin chenne with Who Loves the Lord,
(02:06):
saw another person who, as we noted yesterday, he wasn't killed.
Charlie Kirk wasn't killed because of his conservative thoughts on
the budget. It was his deeply rooted religious convictions that
helped shape his political worldview, and he would address that
openly publicly. And so Kristin Chennawi noted that and said
(02:31):
she was heartbroken, said I'm so upset. Didn't always agree,
but appreciated some perspectives, and her fans, many of them,
were furious. But that headline again, it says since the
assassination of Charlie Kirk, it's become clear that there's no
way to talk about this issue without upsetting somebody. I
(02:55):
think that's a true headline. But what does it say
if you're one of those who went out on social
media and said what a horrible tragedy, thoughts and prayers
for his family, whatever, and someone sees that and they're upset.
(03:15):
Is that on you? If you suggest that maybe people
shouldn't be murdered and someone's like, hey, I'm really upset
by what you said. Because Charlie Kirk, in all of
his whether it's on the radio or in public or
(03:39):
as guests on television stations, the man talked publicly for
several hours just about every single day for years. It's
not completely crazy to think that if you let someone
talk long enough, they might say some things you agree with,
(03:59):
and they might say some things that not only would
you disagree with, that they would look back on and go,
I don't like the way I said that, or I
don't know that I should have said that. You might
note that I said that thing a few years ago
and then stop saying it. I said at one time,
it didn't become part of my thing. I didn't shout
(04:23):
it out at a rally, so everyone could cheer for
this line. I said something and then I thought differently
about it and didn't say that. You know, you, I
don't know how much you talk to people, but when
you talk to people for an entire lifetime, whether it's
in the media or not, you're going to say something
that you regret. I look forward to doing that this
(04:46):
morning and have to apologize tomorrow it happens. But boy,
I would just really hate for someone to key in
on something you said years ago that you think, well,
that defines who that person is. Never mind the fact
(05:06):
that they've talked for hours and hours and hours and
hours about different things since then. They said that one thing,
and there are some things that are more difficult to
excuse or forgive than others. But back to Charlie, if
you have if you go out on social media and say,
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I think it's awful that this man was murdered, especially
when he was trying to encourage people who disagreed with
him to have a conversation with him and to kill
this guy for that. This is inexcusable. This is not
who we should be. And then it says, well, it's
become clear there's no way to talk about this issue
without upsetting somebody. If you just say that what I
(05:54):
just said and somebody gets upset, how's that my fault?
That's on you, that's in your heart, that's in your soul. Now,
there have certainly been people online over the past almost
week now who have said some incredibly vile and illegal
(06:16):
things online. The people, the number of people who not
only were celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder, mocking his death and
those who were affected by it, but also saying, hey,
you know who we should target next and throwing names
out there, including the President of the United States, just
(06:37):
casually just say hey, do him next, like it's not
a big deal and it's okay to say this stuff.
And whether it's the president or just another commentator you
don't agree with, there are a number of people out
there saying, hey, great, here's someone else you should put
on your list. If you're putting together a list, here's
(06:59):
someone what else you should be on there? And mocking
faith and so forth. And now someone I forget. I
don't know who to credit this to, but I saw
this posted last night on social media. Because I can't
help it. I like half open one eye and open
(07:21):
up social media and kind of look at it to go,
what am I gonna find here? And here's what I found.
It says, if you believe people deserve to be shot
for their opinions, don't cry when you get fired for yours.
There are a number of people out there, and in fact,
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there's something now called the Charlie Kirk Data Foundation which
says they've received this is as of yesterday, upwards of
sixty thousand submissions. And this story says submission about Kirk critics. No, no, no, no, no,
(08:04):
This is not about Kirk critics. Not the kind of
people that would want to grab a microphone at one
of his events and have a nice little conversation with him,
or even someone who would yell at him about a
political point. These are not Kirk critics who are being
quote turned in. These are people in positions of authority.
(08:26):
And why is it sad how many of them are
teachers who were celebrating, mocking suggesting that someone else, including
the president, should be taken care of in this manner
as well. These are not Kirk critics. These are people
who I'll try and give a little bit of grace.
(08:50):
Maybe had a really bad day and posted something stupid.
I know some people who did that and they've removed
their post afterwards. I said this last week, and people
laughed at me. I said, look, I'm not here. This
was last thursday. I said, I'm not here to say
and I'll tell you what this person said, and I'll
tell you what this one. This person I'm not. I
(09:12):
wasn't doing it, I said. It is my hope that
people think about what they posted and say I would
rather that didn't define who I am and I'm not
proud of that post and remove it. And a lot
of people have. Now, some people have because they're like, oh,
I could get fired for this. Yeah, yeah you could.
(09:33):
It happens social media posts leading to someone getting fired.
M can't think of any Oh wait, so these things happen. Now,
if you're a person in position of authority with young
minds that you're shaping as a teacher, yes, it is
reasonable to assume that someone might have an issue with that.
(09:55):
And if you think, I don't know why, freedom of speech,
first amendment, that's not what the first first amendment is. Yeah,
you can say that without fear of being thrown in jail, unless,
of course, you suggest we should assassinate the president, which
a lot of people just thought they'd better casually do
that Secret Service is going to be busy. But the
(10:18):
first Amendment is you can say these vile things, but
it doesn't give you freedom from repercussions for your statements
or the impact that it has on your employer. So
for those who think, hey, this kind of expression, you
(10:38):
might not like it, but that's what freedom of speech
allows in this country, all right. Would those of you
if if all this were switched around and you had
a very important left leaning political figure who was murdered
for his or her views by some guy who fit
(10:59):
the maga stereotype to your perfect tea, and then you
saw a bunch of maga people online or you saw
them going yeah, which, by the way, there would be
some of that in it, and I would be defriending
those people on social media too. But you switch all
(11:21):
this around and you learn that your kid's teacher was
one of those who was celebrating the murder and said, hey, yeah,
how about this person get the next bullet? This is great.
Any of you people said about this, you guys are
wrong and terrible, and this is your kid's teacher, would
(11:41):
you feel like, oh, hey, you know freedom of expression,
you know, the hey, exchange of ideas, might not like
it all the time. Is that really the feeling you
would have? You know, you wouldn't because that's it's okay
to say I don't want someone with that in their
heart educating young people. Or there are some businesses and
(12:10):
newspapers that are getting some negative attention for all this stuff.
But there's also one who happens to play volleyball for
the University of Nebraska. And now, I don't know what
by the time this news got back to you about
Harper Murray, I don't know what you think this situation
looks like. I'll tell you what I know, and I'll
(12:31):
definitely tell you what I think in just a couple
of minutes.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Scott Voriez NewsRadio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I just spent the last I don't know however many minutes, hours, days, years,
talking about the online reaction to Charlie Kirk's death, which
has been celebrated mocked by way too many people. And
now there are people saying, and here's this person who
said this, here's the screen shad to what they said,
(13:00):
here's where they work. Turns out they're a teacher, and
they hold it up to their employer and say, is
this the kind of person you want to employ? What
people are gonna do, what they're gonna do. The only
immediate caution I have to it is, do you have
(13:21):
any idea how easy it is to fake what someone
posts online? I've done it in hilarious fashion a number
of times on my social media pages. Or did you
think that was a real picture of me and the
former Omaha Public School superintendent posing nude together? And in
(13:41):
case you're like what, it's a long story, it was
a fake picture. Lucy Chapman, your thoughts not on what
I just said, but on all this stuff here about
people going, hey, I got the freedom expressed myself.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, you absolutely do, except in the cases that you
pointed out that it becomes illegal when it evolves a
president or a threat to somebody's life. A direct threat
to somebody's life, I'm the whole somebody, somebody somebody is next.
It's really right on that line, because it's not saying
(14:19):
you want it done, You're going to do it, So
that's really on the line. But you got to remember
that we've got freedom of speech and the silver lining
of this is that now we know who you are,
now we don't have to be friends with you. I
don't have to be triggered, I don't have to be offended.
You didn't say it to me, But I don't want
to be your friend.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, it's definitely changed. I don't want you teaching my kids, right,
it's definitely changed a few relationships, Like I've got, uh
whatever number of Facebook friends and followers, and however all
that stuff works thousands of people. I think I personally
know approximately twelve of them, and do they know you? No,
(15:00):
I don't know how some of these people. I unfriended
another person last night because of some really hateful stuff
that was posting. I'm like, I don't even recognize this
guy's name, and I looked them up and he lives
in Tennessee. I'm like, I don't know who this is.
You're gone, you know. And then I have this quick
fantasy that he sees that I unfriended him, which, by
(15:22):
the way, you don't see on Facebook. But he manages
to figure it out and then he's like, man, I
need to change my ways. That guy unfriended me. Maybe
I should. None of that happens it's just a fleeting thought.
But there are some people who I know personally and
I adore who either posted some I mean, if they
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posted anything that was super vile, that would be personally,
that would be cause for me to have a personal
conversation with them, and I wouldn't light them up on
Facebook or whatever. Some people for just like yeah, but
let's not forget Charlie Kirk said, yeah, thank you for
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letting me know. Those are more of an I'll just
choose to unfollow you. That's where we stay friends, quote unquote.
But I don't see your posts, but I'll remember for
the next couple of years when it comes up on
your birthday, I might not wish you a happy birthday
because it still stings. Do you think they care? No? No,
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I think they know no, but I do and whatever.
So have you heard, Lucy some of this give and
take this stuff online about the Husker volleyball player Harper Murray,
And if so, what's your impression about what she did
or said online related to Charlie Kirk. That has so
many people, including a lot of Husker fans, especially volleyball fans,
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so upset.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I didn't see it. I tried I tried to find it,
and I found a screenshot, but you couldn't enlarge it.
I couldn't read it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
The screenshot of her face kind of looking like, Oh,
I want to say something, but I can't say anything,
and then little idyobity words on it is that Okay, Yeah,
that's the only thing I've seen.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And I don't know what it says.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It says something like I really want to share a
bunch of these TikTok, suggesting some sort of something she
was seeing. But I live in Nebraska, so it wouldn't
go over very well or so. I don't have the
exact word, and I can find it if you want.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
But it was we know it was definitely.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
We don't know about. We don't know what the subject was.
Now here's what someone Here's what someone saw before everything
was cleansed.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Someone said that she had reposted on one of these
social media platforms, someone who at least expressed a passing
disinterest and in Charlie Kirk's death, almost like I didn't
like the guy, so I don't have to feel bad
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about him being killed. And she allegedly had reposted that,
and then at some point there was the post that
we still see from her teammate, Rebecca Alec. Rebecca Alec,
in addition to being a fantastic volleyball player, is one
of those like the softball player Jordi Ball, who have
spoken out politically in the past year. When you saw
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these Husker athletes say stand up for women in sports.
For example, the tall one is Rebecca Alec.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
And aren't they all tall?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Well not always, but yeah volleyball, it doesn't hurt. So
she's stood. She has put herself out there as I'm
a Christian and I have these views. So she posted
a quote from Pope Saint John Paul the Second Pope
Saint John Paul the Second that said quote, we must
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defend the truth at all costs, even if we are
reduced to just twelve again, and then posted some stuff
about how heart burning it was what happened to Charlie Kirk.
The quote has to do with we have to stand
up for Jesus even if we look around and realize
there's still we're back to the original twelve disciples. We
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must defend the truth at all costs, even if we
are reduced to just twelve again, even if it looks
like everyone else around you as caving or staying quiet.
It's important to provide that witness and testimony. Now, Rebecca
Alec still has comments coming on her Instagram post on this,
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and many of them are pretty ugly. The allegation was
that her teammate Harper Murray went through and liked the
ugly ones, whether the ugly comments were directed at Charlie
Kirk or personally at her teammate Rebecca Alec, and the
allegation was that she'd reposted this social media thing that
was at least saying I don't have to care about
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Charlie Kirk's death. And then the one we saw here
was her saying, you know, I want to post all
this stuff, but I live in Nebraska, so it wouldn't
be it wouldn't go over Well, that's the only thing
I've seen that's a screenshot of what she posted was
that one. It has her face on it, and it
at least suggests I think that a lot of people
in Nebraska are a bunch of knuckle dragon mouth breathing
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simpleton rednecks.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Is she being forced to live here?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Is she being forced?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
No? And she makes a lot of money being on
that team, and she's supported by aforementioned mouth breathing knuckle
dragon Maga Rednecks who support the Husker athletic program. So
here's what I know. After all of this, whatever post
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that was reposted about at least showing a disinterest in
Kirk's death has been deleted. The afore mentioned yeah, but
I live in Nebraska, so that post has been deleted,
not before someone is able to screenshot it. And the
allegations that she was going through there and liking vile
posts about Charlie Kirk and against her teammate Rebecca Alec,
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she has. If that's what she did, she has undid it.
She has also on her Instagram page allowed for comments
to be severely limited, so you'll see, like I checked
today and there's a great picture of her as a
Husker volleyball player, and all the comments are incredibly flattering
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and celebratory. Harper, You're the best, Harper, You're so cute, Harper,
go big red and all that stuff, and then you
look at the bottom and says comments on these posts
has been limited. There are certainly people who are saying,
probably pro and negative things related to whatever views she
may or may not have about Charlie Kirk, she has
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limited those things. Rebecca Alex's Instagram page still is a
free for all. You can say whatever you want. I
don't think that you're going to cause Rebecca alec and
her faith to be changed, swayed, dented at all. You
want to say what you want to say. Okay, here
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you go if that's what you feel you need to do.
And I hope that the Lord meets you where you
are and tries to pull you out of this dark
place you're in now. She didn't say that, but I
don't know that she would disagree with my sentiment. Now.
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She hasn't taken anything down off social media. Harper Murray
allegedly if she did, all that stuff has undone it. Again.
What I say last week, it is my hope that
if people feel like they need to post that stuff,
that they look back on it later and Gough not
what I want to do now. Motivations for undoing it,
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I don't know. I can guess. I don't know. Here's
what I know. That was all going on on Friday afternoon.
Nebraska Volleyball played a match on Friday evening, and people
who were at the Devani Center early to see the
match saw Harper Murray and Rebecca Alec hugging each other.
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Neither has said anything about the other. The program has
not had a statement about it. It looks like this
has been resolved internally and that team is moving on
hopefully as a team. That's how it should happen. So
as far as I'm concerned, unless she wants to make
it a bigger case, my current case is closed on
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the Harper Murray situation. Now, I don't work for Adidas.
I don't pay her money. Maybe I'd want to have
a conversation with her if I did, but I don't,
so I won't.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I want to when you would get a chance to
come back to your description and I don't know if
it was yours or theirs of disinterested?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Okay, happy to We'll do that after a Fox News update.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Next Scots News Radio eleven ten k FA.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I said a moment ago that there are several people
online posting either vile hatred in the way could Charlie
Kirk's death, mocking him and those who are mourning him,
or they're at least posting a disinterest in his death. Now,
I had a little miniature rant on that point yesterday,
but I want to see if Lucy has the same impression, because,
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if I'm not mistaken, you said a moment ago that
you wanted to come back to something I said, and
it was about those expressing disinterest.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You had a rant about that yesterday.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Miniature with disinterest. Yes, huh, but we'll see here, there's
no idea, there's let's see if we're on the same page. Though.
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Oh, I thought you were going to tell me something more,
because you are the host disinterested.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You know who's disinterested.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
You mentioned that some of the people had talked about
being just disinterested with Charlie Kirk's death, being disinterested in
his death. I think that there's nothing wrong with that.
Believe it or not. There are people who never heard
of Charlie Kirk. They have no connection to him whatsoever.
The problem comes when you're disinterested with the brutal murder,
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the assassination, public assassination of somebody just because of what
they thought and what they believed. If you're disinterested in that,
that's where the problem comes in.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Well, not just disinterested. Here was my little rand yesterday.
I understand where you can't get emotionally and you just
you can't get emotionally invested in everything that happens. Is
Charlie Kirk's life on its face worth more than anyone else's.
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I could probably make an argument that it is, But
for sake of that argument, let's say it's not and
someone else. People get hurt, murdered, they die, and horrible
things happen to good people all the time. Horrible things
happen to horrible people all the time. And if you
were to like, all right, a person died, we're putting
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the flags that have staff and we're all going to
engage in national mourning, we'd never come out of it.
It's you can't. I mean, I don't know some people
are able to. And I would think of people like
emergency room staff who every single it's not like someone
in an emergency room, and a lot of members of
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the military and law enforcement and so forth, most of
their day is not someone coming in whistling a tune, going, hey,
just want to let you know everything's great. You guys
are the best. We'll see you later, Okay, thanks, thanks
for stopping by. Usually it's people running in bleeding and screaming,
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and you have to fix it. And sometimes you can't
and it's just one atrocity after another. And how these
people are able to go back to that environment every
day is I think it's angelic what they're able to do,
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because they're able to remove what they feel emotionally from
what they need to do professionally.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I hope so. Yeah, But I've seen I have seen
comments also from doctors, not a lot, thankfully, but and
nurses that we're celebrating this death. I'm sure it's one
thing for a teacher to do it. And I would
absolutely pull my kid out of that class sim because
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of the lack of empathy if she had if this
teacher had so much, such a lack of empathy for
the human race that she would celebrate something so brutal,
so just awfully horribly wrong. If you're gonna celebrate that, yeah,
I'm gonna pull my kid out. You know, you might
be a good teacher, but I don't want any of that, right.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But doctors, oh yeah, well as I and.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
You're gonna go into this er. What if the doctor
finds out you're a Christian or that you are against whatever,
is he going to treat you differently?
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I hope not. I don't know. There are thousands of
people out there, and each of them is going to
act a little bit differently, And yeah, there'll be some
people that act very very poorly. I'm not willing to
throw an entire I'm not either. They're very very few,
I understand, you know. But if you go in there
and uh, you're like, I have a head wound, You're like, yeah,
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you got that maga hat on, that's a head wound.
I'm not treating you. You know. Well, now we have
something else to talk about. But I think I did
a little bit of this on the show yesterday, maybe
it was Friday. But these people, teachers, doctors, who have
been celebrating Charlie Kirk's death, they feel like, yeah, because
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someone just killed Hitler. These people have made it their
mission to let you know that people like Donald Trump
and Charlie Kirk and all their followers and sympathizers, these
are horrible people who want to kill gay people, especially
gay children. They hate black people and love it when
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white police officers murder them. And in the case of
the medical community, these are COVID deniers and anti vaxers
who want your grandma to die. They have made that
their mission for years now. And when they've decided that
person is responsible for this sentiment that I've either manufactured
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or firmly believe, and then that person's gone, they feel like, oh, okay,
someone just killed Hitler. Now we can all live in harmony.
But I want to go back to what I think
the root of this conversation was, and that was the
people who need to go on social media and say, hey,
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I don't I don't feel anything for Charlie Kirk's death.
I didn't. I didn't know the guy. I didn't like
everything he said, So don't expect me to be real
sorry about it. Okay, that's not You're no longer a
disinterested party, your person that shows up like stick your
head into a funeral service and just stick your head
in there and go, hey, I don't know that guy,
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and so I don't care to letting you guys know,
everyone know this is me, this is my profile on
social media, and just letting you all you mourners in
here who are sad and weepy and crying and all that.
Sorry to interrupt by just letting you know, I don't
know that guy, and there are probably some things that
he said I wouldn't agree with. So I don't care.
That guy's dead, all right, we'll see you. And then
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when the mourners follow him out in the parking lot
and go, hey, wait a second, what's the matter with you?
That person has the audacity to act surprised, Hey, what's
your problem? I just said I didn't care. It's it's
the way I mean, it's one thing to pass you
ever pass a uh you like? You go into like hefi, hef, hefe, hefe,
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hefe and hefi and there's several different rooms and you
have to find That's why there's always nice people out
there saying, which funeral service are you looking for? And
they can take you to the right room, because you
don't want to go into the wrong room and then
go up there and go who's this? You know? So
you walk by, Yeah, what happened to uncle Joe? You don't?
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Where was are you? Sorry? I was gonna say something else,
and I thought, no, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't when
you're trying to find the funerals, nervous and all that stuff.
I don't know. I think I probably I probably lost.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
It, but we were you started with this interest.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Oh, I'm just I think I was just when you
you walk by. Yeah, this is what I was saying,
going to say thank you. You walk by a funeral
service and you don't know anyone in there, and you
don't know the person who died, but you hear the
music and you see the look on people's faces and
they're grief stricken. And I always look by and I go, huh, sorry,
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I didn't know that person. You know, when you and
I'm gonna get to know his family. I bet there
are snacks afterwards. You know. That's a good thing about
crashing a funeral meat loaf.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Oh, potatoes, funeral potatoes.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Right, sorry, Deli sandwiches. It's a matter with you, you know,
just I mean, you just walk by a group people
who are mourning, and there are some people who, apparently
based on their online activity, feel compelled to just walk
in there and go I don't care. Now you're no
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longer disinterested. You have interjected yourself into the conversation. And
there are a number of people who have been fired.
There are probably even more people who will be fired.
As I mentioned earlier this hour, there's the website the
Charlie Kirk Data Foundation, which has received sixty thousand plus
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submissions about people who have said pretty bad things about
Charlie Kirk. Attorney General Pam Bondi was on Fox News
last night with Sean Hannity, and she was pointing out
that there are some people who the federal government is
interested in speaking with based on some of their actions
more than just social media posts in the wake of
Charlie Kirk's deaths. She said businesses cannot discriminate. She said,
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here was a worker at a place that you can
go and they will make copies for you. I do
not mean a local business too. It's a nationwide but
it has a local office. There are local people that
work there. I don't need to paint all of them
with the same brush. But a worker at one of
these places in Michigan, someone went there and had some
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pro Charlie Kirk flyers that they wanted to have printed. Now,
the person could have just said how many do you want,
and then printed them and handed them over in exchange
for money. This worker did not. I'm not gonna print
those discriminating against this person for their politics. She says.
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There are civil rights units looking into stuff like this,
and there will be issues that will be made with
some of these people. Now, some have said, how come
the local Republican Party didn't do a vigil or something
for Charlie here in Omaha. I'll address that next. The
local Republican Party did have a vigil for Charlie Kirk.
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But wait, hey, I didn't hear anything. I know you
didn't hear anything about it unless you're on the direct
communication list with the leaders of the local Republican Party,
the Douglas County Republican Party. Now, yes, just a quick
bringing you up to speed. The leadership of the state
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and County Republican Party has changed a little bit over
the years. You've got the more old guard country club,
the Republican types who had been in charge for a
long time, who felt like, hey, these upstart maga people,
the tea partiers and all that, they're cute, we need
them in all, but we're not going to let them
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take charge of anything. And then it got kind of ugly.
And then that smaller group got bigger and bigger, and
then they decided, we're tired of being ignored by the
establishment conservatives. We're going to come into your conventions and
take over. And they did. And so now that leadership
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is in charge of the County Republican Party, the state
Republican Party, which is why sometimes you'll like last year,
you'll have an election and you'll have an incumbent Republican
and the Republican party in the area says, don't vote
for this incumbent Republican and other people are like, what
is going on? So that's the current leadership, and they did.
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They're definitely there. I don't speak for all of them.
I don't speak for any of them, but I feel comfortable,
insane that they're they're officionados of Charlie Kirk and that
for which he stood. And so they did have a
vigil the night that he was killed. And I asked them, now,
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was it the night before? Maybe it was the night after. Yeah,
I think it was the night after, because someone reached
out to me and said, hey, FYI, and they give
me the details about this, and I said, do you
want to come on the radio and promote this so
people can be a part of it. We can talk
about what you're doing. And it was decided by this
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particular person who is not the leader of the party.
They told me, no, we're keeping this one quiet. We
just don't want to deal with protesters and agitators, so
we're not telling everybody when we want to just get
together and have a quiet vigil, which I can get.
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I know now that you've had almost a week to
process all of this, I know you're thinking, I want
them to you know, deal, let's take let's meet the
agitators head on. That's what Charlie Kirk would have done.
And okay, yes, and it's not like the local Republican
Party is probably just gonna say we're just gonna do
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everything in secret from now on and no one's ever
gonna do anything publicly. Ever. Again, I don't think that's
their stance. We'll see, but I don't think that's their stance.
But in the hours after, I mean I got the
message from this person within a couple of hours of
learning that Charlie Kirk had died and they were going
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to do something the following night, I guess. I mean
in those hours, in those quiet hours, that's the time
when you want to get together and have a quiet vigil.
You don't want to be forced to it and be
tempted to go across the street and slug somebody. At
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least most people don't, you know, it's very personally weird
for me. I get people who will to size this
radio show for any number of reasons. But my favorite
criticism of this radio show is when we're talking about
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something stupid. Pick a day. But last week, I think
probably last week, at this time, I was screaming and
yelling and hollering about some insignificant little issue here at work,
and Lucy and I were fighting about it, and the
more we thought about it, the more fun I was having.
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And people were emailing. And here's my favorite criticism of
the show. People were emailing, going, wow, must be a
slow news day. I always if I don't respond in
an email to you, I at least quickly respond in
my head. Yes, I mean there aren't very many anymore.
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And if I choose to talk about something that doesn't
have to do with whatever Trump is up to, by
the way, he's been a little quiet the last few
days Memphis. All right, maybe not that quiet, but hasn't
gotten the attention. But yeah, if we choose to do
something else, it's usually because it is a day where
the news is such that I can get away with it,
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meaning people aren't dying and things aren't ugly and on
fire and there aren't people with this tirade of angry
social media post or trying to you know. So, yeah,
I like this. I like a so called slow news
day because it's been anything but since Wednesday afternoon. But
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what's very weird to me personally is I was pretty
stressed out before all this happened, and I was really
really low on patience in my personal and professional life.
And there's quite a bit of blur between the two.
I think for a lot of people, I don't know
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what's over me in the last week since all this happened,
or so. I have been not every single moment of
every single day, but I have been abundantly patient, and
I have been filled with giving other people grace. It
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won't last, I would say, for like my son, who
rather than nitpick about okay, so I told you please,
there's an empty bottle, like an empty gatorade bottle that
you put on the table over here, as though it
was decoration, and I asked you to put it away.
Not only did you not throw it away. Now we
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have an empty water bottle right next to it, like
it's a collection that you've started, and you think that
here on the kitchen counter is the place for it.
You are mistaken, you know. Rather than that, I would
just go and look at the bottles and go, oh,
that little scamp, and I just throw them in the recycling.
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Like I said, it won't last. And if you're like
my son, or you're Lucy and someone who has to
spend some time with me from time to time, I
would say, enjoy it while it lasts. But I'm trying
to make it last.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Are you saying it's because of the events of the
last week, Yes, Okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, I don't, and I don't. I can't really put
my finger on it, but I've it's changed me and
I'm trying to make it change me for the better.
And it started that night when I went home and
my knee jerk reaction was just to sit off by
myself and I didn't want to talk to anybody. And
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then and that's how I started that night. And then
I said, this is not what your soul is telling you.
It needs, it needs sustenance. So I went and sat
down next to my wife, who was watching something I
didn't care about, and I just hung out with her,
and I asked my son if he'd you know, I
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don't remember. I think we ended up playing like a
video game, but that I knew he was going to
destroy me in the video game, and he did, laughing
at me, at me while he did so, and I
did it laughing with him. Sometimes that upsets me when
he is mocking me as he's beating me in a
video game. But I loved it. I don't know, Like
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I said, I don't know how long it's gonna last.
But I'll tell you what I haven't been doing. I
haven't been going on social media and saying anything about
any of this to anybody. Seems like everyone else is
taking care of that. I don't need to go wading
into all of that sludge. Right now. I get a
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chance to share my thoughts on the radio and in
some instances read your emails, which I will do next.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Scott Bodies News Radio eleven ten Kfab.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Scott atkfab dot com. That's how you email here during
these into the Zonker's custom was inbox Adam emails and
says hello, h I Adam. Those who are walking the
line between celebration and apathy are missing something very critical,
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and that is the need to extend sympathy to those
around you who are hurting. To be surrounded by people
who are upset about something and have an overwhelming desire
to tell them that you don't care is a hallmark
of a I can't say that name on the radio,
will say a hallmark of a jerk or if you
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prefer a joke. Yes, Adam, I agree with your assessment,
and I agree with the word you you used, even
if I can't say that on the radio. But yeah,
to be surrounded by people who are upset about the
death of Charlie Kirk and have an overwhelming desire to
tell them that you're mocking their grief or that you
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don't care about And these are people that you ostensibly
care about. And I know there's less and less of
that going on there, But like the people who say
that on their social media, do you think you're only
surrounded by people who agree with you politically, including your
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hardline Yes, ugly political stances like not caring if a
guy is murdered. Did you really feel like, Hey, I'm
gonna say this to all my Facebook friends. I got
three hundred Facebook friends and it's a cultivation of family
and friends and co workers and former co workers and
people I knew in school, and some of these people
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and other people I know professionally. I'm just gonna tell
them all, I'm glad Charlie Kirk's dead. Did you think
every single one of them was like, yeah, maybe. I mean,
people do a very careful job of cultivating their social
media followers. I don't, or at least I haven't. But
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over the past week it's been all right, who's the
next man up? Because after you unfriend somebody, then you
can add someone to that group if you're already full up.
So I like this person, I don't know this person,
and I am willing to let them have their own
little fun on their own little page, but they're not
gonna have it here, and so unfriend next man up, Melissa.
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All Right, welcome Melissa. You're now in the Facebook party.
I haven't been doing a lot of that, but every
time I go on Facebook, I bet I can find
one or two. And isn't it interesting that, even as
I've told Facebook, because you can click an X on
there and say I don't care about this post, I
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don't care about this content, and then the next day
Facebook's like, is this what you wanted to see here's
another person that you don't know who you're connected to
on Facebook who said this horrible thing about Charlie Kirk.
It got one like and two comments. Is this what
you wanted to see first up on your page? No, Facebook,
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Not only do I think that you're mistaken, I think
you're doing this on purpose. And it's very tempting to
just delete my account. But if I do that, then
the terrorists win, I understand. Were some people, among them
Marjorie Taylor Green, Republican representative from Georgia, some people as
(47:54):
I made mention of this on the radio the other
day and Lucy gave me a look like, wow, that's
a sad reality. But it was on Thursday morning, which
was also the anniversary of nine to eleven, and I
was talking about how it felt like the country was
pretty well galvanized twenty four years ago in the wake
of the attacks. Twenty four years later, the attack on
(48:15):
Charlie Kirk has not galvanized everybody. If anything, it's illuminated
the divide. And I said, do you feel like we're
closer as a nation to coming together or are we
a close? Are we closer to a civil war? Sadly,
(48:37):
it feels to me like we're closer to I don't
want to say that I think we're close to, but
I think we're much closer to a civil war than
we would rallying around each other and looking out for
each other as Americans if something bad happened, In fact,
if nine to eleven happened today, you would see the
(48:59):
same people on social media cheering that it happened to
Trump's America on his watch. And this is what he
and his voters deserve. As much as it makes me
sick to my stomach to say that we would see
that today, I don't know what we would have seen
(49:19):
had we had social media in September of two thousand
and one. I don't know. I mean, it didn't feel like, oh,
it was a simpler time, was it. I don't know.
Do we just not know or feel emboldened to have
a thought like that and realize, Hey, if I share
this on social media, everyone's gonna have some reaction to it,
(49:41):
and I'll be the center of attention for a few minutes.
I don't know. But Marjorie Taylor Green has reignited her
call for a national divorce. Here's where the Red States
are here's where the blue states are. No as much
as there are people on both sides of that spectrum
(50:04):
that would say, hey, why not, let's do it? You know,
why not because California would be a blue state and
I want to go play Pebble Beach someday. That's why.
What are we gonna do? Like you're, hey, you're going
from Nebraska to Florida, red state to red state, but
you got to drive through blue state to get there.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
They'd still let you in.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
What are we talking about? Is that really where we
get And you're Pollyannic if you don't think, yeah, I
do believe we can get there, I certainly hope not.
But you can see it from here, can't you. Now?
I think that wanting to start a civil war, like
all these these people who are going on social media
(50:50):
and saying, yeah, I'm glad he's dead and I wish
all of his supporters were dead with him and all,
then we should start a civil war at whatever it
is that they're thinking. I think that's probably a pretty
bad idea for them to do. I mean, just looking
at stereotypically over here, you've got a prepper with a
full cash of weapons in his basement, who's been waiting
(51:13):
his whole life for this moment. He's flying a snake
flag in his yard, and there are a lot of
people like him saying, oh yeah, the whole militia thing.
I've been waiting for this, let's go. He knows eighty
seven different ways to kill you. On the other side,
(51:34):
you got a person that says I hate guns. They're
flying a rainbow flag. They know eighty seven different ways
to tell you that how many genders there are. I
just don't think that it would go very well. So
for all the reasons in the world, let's not do that,
and let's not wait for another nine to eleven to
(51:56):
find some way to come together. See that was the
grace talking that I mentioned earlier. Enjoy it, Yeah, enjoy
it while at last might be gone by tomorrow.
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