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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott Vordiez talked about a couple of weeks ago after
my son, who was fourteen years old, started his freshman
year of high school, and his biggest concerns are, Dad,
I can't go in the bathroom. There's a bunch of
big guys in there who are just vaping marijuana the
entire time. I can't go in the bathroom. I said,
you can go in the bathroom. They're more likely to
give you a hug than give you any trouble. And
(00:21):
he's like, Then I go into class and there's kids
that are either moving in or out of the classroom,
or in or out of the school, as has been
the case because they got in trouble over here at
this school, so time to move them to a different school.
And on one hand, I'm very thankful these are the
only problems my fourteen year old faces in his school.
When we had two fourteen year olds killed yesterday at
(00:44):
this high school in wind Or, Georgia, just outside of Atlanta,
as well as two teachers lost their lives as well.
But I think some of these issues lead to some
of the problems we're seeing. Welcome on to the program here.
A retired police sergeant spent nearly thirty years working in
(01:05):
the Chicago Land area. Betsy brandtnor Smith of the National
Police Association online at Nationalpolice dot org, joins us here
on news radio eleven ten kfab and sergeant, I appreciate
it taking the time.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Good morning, Hey, it's great to be with you and
so sad that this is what we have to talk
about at a time when you know your family should
be joyous. You know, you got the boyd to high school.
How great is that? And yet here we are, you know,
talking about why does a fourteen year old come to
(01:38):
school and attack his fellow students and instructors.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I know, my biggest problem with my son is he's
got to take his girl to a homecoming dance in
just over a week, and I'm going to try and
convince him he can't wear sweatpants. So the other issues
dealing with juveniles though, I mean nearly thirty year career
working with with the police officers there in the Chicago area.
(02:04):
During this time you worked with juveniles, what do you
see are the differences with what seems to be a
much larger percentage of juvenile offenders now compared to ten
twenty thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, a couple of things. First of all, we used
to punish juvenile offenders. Now we gave them extra chances,
but we still punished them by, you know, doing things
like grounding them and taking things away from them. Making
the new community service. Now you can you know, you
might have to commit like ten armed robberies as a
(02:38):
sixteen year old before you're ever really going to get punished.
We also, and I want everyone to think about this,
who sent their kid off to school last week or
this week. We're sending them all off with a smartphone
in their backpack or in their hand. They have social media,
they have so many social pressures. They're looking at TikTok
(03:00):
video after video after video. So we truly have a
mental health crisis in this country, and it's so much
of it is self caused. We're also we have stopped
talking about criminality and evil, and we talk about decarceration,
(03:20):
we talk about making excuses for criminality, We talk about
it's only your emotions that matter. You know, you have
something I want, I take it from you because I
want it. We no longer have respect for each other's lives,
each other's property. So these are so many things that
we need to think about as parents, and then as voters,
(03:42):
we need to think about, how what did you do,
each and every person listening to stop this vilification and
the demonization of your law enforcement officers that are patrolling
your streets, And what are you doing as a parent
to insist at your school harden that target.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I love that you share the frustration so many of
us have here in the wake of something like this.
We deal with this over and over again, and I
think a lot of people feel like, well, there's just
nothing you can do. And on some level, if you've
got bad parents and you've got good teachers who ask
time and time again, we've got to deal with this
(04:24):
problem in my class. And maybe they moved that problem out,
but they bring a new problem in people just start
to give up. Go what can government do about a
bad parent somewhere?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, let's look at the Parkland, Florida school shooting. Marguerite
Stoneman Douglas High School, the famous shooting of several years ago.
That school shooter had been moved school to school to
school because he had extraordinary mental health issues. Why was
he in a regular school because of a program that
(04:56):
the Obama administration brought to Department of Education, where they said,
you know what, we can't take these kids that have
mental health issues or have criminality issues and isolate them.
We've got to bring them among all the other students.
Remember this young man yesterday in Georgia. He had just
(05:20):
transferred to Appalachi High School last year. The Sheriff's department
at the behest of the FBI interviewed him and his
father because they had a suspicion of online activity where
he was threatening to shoot up a school. The dad said, oh,
this is not a problem. You know, I have hunting weapons,
(05:41):
but they're not available to him. The kid denied making
any kinds of threats for some reason, and hopefully we'll
find out. He got extracted from his last school. He's
at a new school in a lovely suburb, and he
decides to shoot up that school. Why was he there?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
And before that one of his classmates talked with the
news yesterday and said, yeah, he left the algebra classroom
and then tried to get back in. She figured, she says,
the quiet student who recently transferred was skipping school again.
Classes just started. He's in a new school. He's already
known for skipping class. The school isn't doing anything about this.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That's exactly it, because we worry more about one child
and one family and their feelings than we do about
all the rest of the school. And I want people
to think about, you know, how is he able? And
we don't know yet to get an AR fifteen into
this classroom. Fortunately they had school resource officers, but let's
(06:47):
not forget that all around this country we have been
told that school resource officers are bad, are dangerous, et cetera,
et cetera. Four young people, and now we have school
resource officers who again ran toward the shot and stopped
(07:09):
this shooter.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I love when you point out that this lack of
respect for law enforcement, for really any authority, is part
of the blame here. You're with the National Police Association
online at Nationalpolice dot org. I love that your website says,
we don't call you. You know, if you hear from
a telemarketer, it's not us. I think a lot of
(07:32):
us have gotten the call from the Fraternal Order of
Police and we think, well, I for give them a
few bucks. I get a sticker on my windshield, I
can't get pulled over for speeding. Tell me about your organization. Sergeant.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
We are a terrific advocacy group. We have a team
of attorneys, a team of writers. We ask everybody to
go to Nationalpolice dot org see what we do. Sign
up for the newsletter, help us defend the American law
enforcement officer and educate people who support National Police dot org.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's an excellent resource to learn more about what it
is that law enforcement does every single day and how
you can support him. Retired Sergeant Betsy brantn Or Smith
at the National Police Association online at Nationalpolice dot org.
Thank you very much for your thoughts this morning. We
will talk to you again.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Here on news Radio eleven ten kfab This kid just
transferred to the school. Classmate says, I figured he was
skipping class again. School started two weeks ago, three weeks ago.
We have a kid at a brand new kid into
school already has a reputation for skipping class. The school
(08:41):
isn't doing anything about this. I mean, if my if
I call my kid out sick and that word doesn't
get to one of the teachers and then I get
a text message or a call from the school that
says your child miss class today, I am immediately on
(09:01):
the phone at the school, going all right. I called
earlier and they said, yep, yep, sorry, just didn't get
it to the teacher. I'm immediately checking what's going on.
Sometimes I haven't called my kid out sick, my kids
in school, and I get a message says, your child
miss this class today. Then I got to call the school.
(09:23):
First of all, which kid they get kids in two
different schools, and then usually it was well, we got
held up over here doing this and I was a
couple of minutes late and they marked me. I was like, okay,
be careful. But you know, as a parent, the schools
notify you if if your kid starting to go down
(09:45):
the wrong road. Here what parents are just like, Eh,
here's the sad answer. Way too freaking many of them.
Scott Boys nine to eleven, Our News Radio eleven ten
KFAB
Scott Vordiez talked about a couple of weeks ago after
my son, who was fourteen years old, started his freshman
year of high school, and his biggest concerns are, Dad,
I can't go in the bathroom. There's a bunch of
big guys in there who are just vaping marijuana the
entire time. I can't go in the bathroom. I said,
you can go in the bathroom. They're more likely to
give you a hug than give you any trouble. And
(00:21):
he's like, Then I go into class and there's kids
that are either moving in or out of the classroom,
or in or out of the school, as has been
the case because they got in trouble over here at
this school, so time to move them to a different school.
And on one hand, I'm very thankful these are the
only problems my fourteen year old faces in his school.
When we had two fourteen year olds killed yesterday at
(00:44):
this high school in wind Or, Georgia, just outside of Atlanta,
as well as two teachers lost their lives as well.
But I think some of these issues lead to some
of the problems we're seeing. Welcome on to the program here.
A retired police sergeant spent nearly thirty years working in
(01:05):
the Chicago Land area. Betsy brandtnor Smith of the National
Police Association online at Nationalpolice dot org, joins us here
on news radio eleven ten kfab and sergeant, I appreciate
it taking the time.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Good morning, Hey, it's great to be with you and
so sad that this is what we have to talk
about at a time when you know your family should
be joyous. You know, you got the boyd to high school.
How great is that? And yet here we are, you know,
talking about why does a fourteen year old come to
(01:38):
school and attack his fellow students and instructors.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I know, my biggest problem with my son is he's
got to take his girl to a homecoming dance in
just over a week, and I'm going to try and
convince him he can't wear sweatpants. So the other issues
dealing with juveniles though, I mean nearly thirty year career
working with with the police officers there in the Chicago area.
(02:04):
During this time you worked with juveniles, what do you
see are the differences with what seems to be a
much larger percentage of juvenile offenders now compared to ten
twenty thirty years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well, a couple of things. First of all, we used
to punish juvenile offenders. Now we gave them extra chances,
but we still punished them by, you know, doing things
like grounding them and taking things away from them. Making
the new community service. Now you can you know, you
might have to commit like ten armed robberies as a
(02:38):
sixteen year old before you're ever really going to get punished.
We also, and I want everyone to think about this,
who sent their kid off to school last week or
this week. We're sending them all off with a smartphone
in their backpack or in their hand. They have social media,
they have so many social pressures. They're looking at TikTok
(03:00):
video after video after video. So we truly have a
mental health crisis in this country, and it's so much
of it is self caused. We're also we have stopped
talking about criminality and evil, and we talk about decarceration,
(03:20):
we talk about making excuses for criminality, We talk about
it's only your emotions that matter. You know, you have
something I want, I take it from you because I
want it. We no longer have respect for each other's lives,
each other's property. So these are so many things that
we need to think about as parents, and then as voters,
(03:42):
we need to think about, how what did you do,
each and every person listening to stop this vilification and
the demonization of your law enforcement officers that are patrolling
your streets, And what are you doing as a parent
to insist at your school harden that target.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I love that you share the frustration so many of
us have here in the wake of something like this.
We deal with this over and over again, and I
think a lot of people feel like, well, there's just
nothing you can do. And on some level, if you've
got bad parents and you've got good teachers who ask
time and time again, we've got to deal with this
(04:24):
problem in my class. And maybe they moved that problem out,
but they bring a new problem in people just start
to give up. Go what can government do about a
bad parent somewhere?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well, let's look at the Parkland, Florida school shooting. Marguerite
Stoneman Douglas High School, the famous shooting of several years ago.
That school shooter had been moved school to school to
school because he had extraordinary mental health issues. Why was
he in a regular school because of a program that
(04:56):
the Obama administration brought to Department of Education, where they said,
you know what, we can't take these kids that have
mental health issues or have criminality issues and isolate them.
We've got to bring them among all the other students.
Remember this young man yesterday in Georgia. He had just
(05:20):
transferred to Appalachi High School last year. The Sheriff's department
at the behest of the FBI interviewed him and his
father because they had a suspicion of online activity where
he was threatening to shoot up a school. The dad said, oh,
this is not a problem. You know, I have hunting weapons,
(05:41):
but they're not available to him. The kid denied making
any kinds of threats for some reason, and hopefully we'll
find out. He got extracted from his last school. He's
at a new school in a lovely suburb, and he
decides to shoot up that school. Why was he there?
Speaker 1 (06:02):
And before that one of his classmates talked with the
news yesterday and said, yeah, he left the algebra classroom
and then tried to get back in. She figured, she says,
the quiet student who recently transferred was skipping school again.
Classes just started. He's in a new school. He's already
known for skipping class. The school isn't doing anything about this.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That's exactly it, because we worry more about one child
and one family and their feelings than we do about
all the rest of the school. And I want people
to think about, you know, how is he able? And
we don't know yet to get an AR fifteen into
this classroom. Fortunately they had school resource officers, but let's
(06:47):
not forget that all around this country we have been
told that school resource officers are bad, are dangerous, et cetera,
et cetera. Four young people, and now we have school
resource officers who again ran toward the shot and stopped
(07:09):
this shooter.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I love when you point out that this lack of
respect for law enforcement, for really any authority, is part
of the blame here. You're with the National Police Association
online at Nationalpolice dot org. I love that your website says,
we don't call you. You know, if you hear from
a telemarketer, it's not us. I think a lot of
(07:32):
us have gotten the call from the Fraternal Order of
Police and we think, well, I for give them a
few bucks. I get a sticker on my windshield, I
can't get pulled over for speeding. Tell me about your organization. Sergeant.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
We are a terrific advocacy group. We have a team
of attorneys, a team of writers. We ask everybody to
go to Nationalpolice dot org see what we do. Sign
up for the newsletter, help us defend the American law
enforcement officer and educate people who support National Police dot org.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
That's an excellent resource to learn more about what it
is that law enforcement does every single day and how
you can support him. Retired Sergeant Betsy brantn Or Smith
at the National Police Association online at Nationalpolice dot org.
Thank you very much for your thoughts this morning. We
will talk to you again.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Here on news Radio eleven ten kfab This kid just
transferred to the school. Classmate says, I figured he was
skipping class again. School started two weeks ago, three weeks ago.
We have a kid at a brand new kid into
school already has a reputation for skipping class. The school
(08:41):
isn't doing anything about this. I mean, if my if
I call my kid out sick and that word doesn't
get to one of the teachers and then I get
a text message or a call from the school that
says your child miss class today, I am immediately on
(09:01):
the phone at the school, going all right. I called
earlier and they said, yep, yep, sorry, just didn't get
it to the teacher. I'm immediately checking what's going on.
Sometimes I haven't called my kid out sick, my kids
in school, and I get a message says, your child
miss this class today. Then I got to call the school.
(09:23):
First of all, which kid they get kids in two
different schools, and then usually it was well, we got
held up over here doing this and I was a
couple of minutes late and they marked me. I was like, okay,
be careful. But you know, as a parent, the schools
notify you if if your kid starting to go down
(09:45):
the wrong road. Here what parents are just like, Eh,
here's the sad answer. Way too freaking many of them.
Scott Boys nine to eleven, Our News Radio eleven ten
KFAB
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