March 16, 2025 • 30 mins
This week’s show featured Taylor Galvin and Michael Holtzbauer promoting the annual Concordia Children’s Business Fair to support budding entrepreneurs, Cody Guffey detailing the Magnum Wrestling charity event to raise funds for local pet rescues, and Dr. Jay Wolfson looking back on five years since the COVID pandemic started.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is Community Matters, a weekly public affairs program to
inform and entertain you with some of the great people, organizations,
and events in and around Omaha. Now here's the host
of the program from news radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's Scott for Heats and thank you so much for
being a part of our program this week. The annual
Concordia Children's Business Fars coming up here in just a
few weeks time, Saturday, April twelfth, from ten until one o'clock,
and we're going to get all the details from two
people involved with this seventh annual event. We've got Taylor
Galvin with us and Michael Holtzbauer. Guys, thank you so
(00:42):
much for being on the program.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So you guys are sitting there together, you just elbow
each other out of the way. As to who wants
to answer these questions, the first one is tell me
about the Children's Business Fair and why it's happening.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
So, the Children's Business Sers happening because we are passionate
about empowering the next generation of entrepreneurs. We're targeting K
through twelve, that's typically ages five through eighteen. We want
to give them the tools and opportunities to successfully run
their own business. So we're aiming at thought, that creativity,
you know, exercise critical thinking, and overall ultimately get confidence
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in our students.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Give me an idea of some of the things that
these students are able to do, including as young as five,
to be able to learn some business acumen, you know what, Scott.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Typically for the younger it could be a product or
a service. So we'll usually see you know, like lemonade staying.
Maybe it's based good. Sometimes it's also a service, so
you know, if the snow keeps hitting us, shoveling some
driveways or even mowing along is what we typically see.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
All right, that's very cool. What about for the older
kids as they start getting to those college years and
starting to really think about their future.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean, what we've seen is anywhere from liked printers
to they even start their lawnscaping companies. They want to
get that going instead of potentially go to college or
just to create funds to go to college. Is what
we're seeing there as well.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Are there businesses from around the Omaha area that go
to this business fair and almost from a recruiting standpoint,
be able to engage with these students.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Absolutely, I mean that could be our end goal. We
are looking at growing the program. This year is year
seven and hopefully although it's on site at Kincordia Lutheran
School at this moment, we are hoping to branch out
and be part of a larger on site such as
like Baxter Arena or Chi and at that point recruiters
from other companies can potentially come out and you know,
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find new talent.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
This is going to be on Saturday, April twelfth, from
ten am to one pm at Concordia, which is right
there at one hundred and fifty sixth and fourth in
Northwest Omaha, the seventh annual Children's Business Fair. Talking here
with Taylor and Michael with the Business Fair. So what
can the public do to be a part of this
and help support these young potential entrepreneurs.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, what they can do is they can come out
and support us. So basically it's kind of a round
robin event. So like you walk around the gym and
they have all their booths set up, and what you
can do is engage with they are the participants and
if you like their goods, you can buy it from them.
Right then, and there and help support them that way,
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And that's really what we're trying to get at, and
we're just trying to spread the words. So if people want,
if people want to have their kids involved, there is
a sign up process and that's due by March twenty eighth.
But if they just want to come and support the
local kids and in this business fair, then it is
on the twelfth from ten to one.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So you don't have to be a student at Concordia
to be a part of the Entrepreneur No, you do not.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh that's another thing that we're trying to do this
year too, is we've reached out to other area schools
to try to get more participants involved with this as well.
So we're trying to get it and that's why we're
thinking about going to backstor renurse Ehi Center is because
we want it to create more of a greater Nebraska
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or greater Omaha area children's business there.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
All right, So what are the rules for someone who
wants to be a part of this children's business fair?
What do they mean age requirements in terms of what
kind of things they're going to do. What is part
of the process for being able to be what I'm
sure is the limited space available at this business fair.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah, so easy, it's one to knock out. Is just
to be the age rings. Typically for our younger participants
or vendors you like to call them, they typically like
bring friends and family along. Parents can be a huge
role in it. We love to see a fun their
student mentality. Come with your own product, your own idea,
and just see how it lands with the community. Maybe
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it's something that people genuinely want and you can launch
this after high school and continue thriving in that business.
On top of that, we just really also want to
give them knowledge on how profit works, how budgeting works,
how policement matters, and advertising matters. So being able to
be coachable in that aspect goes a long way.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That's Taylor Galvin also Michael Holtzbauer with us. How long
have you guys been involved with this children's business fair.
I know this is the seventh annual, so.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
We really partnered with them. We've only been working on
for the last two months and we're trying to make
it so that way if Kayla, who is really the
main person in charge, if she ever needs to step
away or kind of handed down we're trying to create
a model that is scalable and repeatable to hand off
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to like a parent that wants to be involved, or
just to grow it and give all these resources. So
that's what we've been trying to do the last two
months to help out.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, and I was curious whether since it's been going
on for seven years, whether we've seen the seeds planted
with some of the high school age students as part
of this children's Business fair actually have led to anything.
Like you know, I had this idea a few years
ago to be able to bring people things that the
order online, and then I created Amazon.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You know that kind of thing you yeah, happens. We
actually have a couple of success stories. One that comes
to my mind is we had a student that actually
developed a service and he launched it and he actually
couldn't even attend the year prior before he graduated because
of how successful his business was doing.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Very cool. So if someone wants to be a part
of this, I noticed the registration you said was March
twenty eighth. You have to register by that date and
that's coming right up here. So how do they register?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
There is a flyer that we have out, but Taylor.
Do you know how they can register? I don't know
off the top of my head.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, you know what we are. We do have some
things that we're kind of posting around the community here
in Omaha, so check like any local, you know, community centers.
We'll get things posted up. Other than that, please reach out.
We actually have an email and I address if I'm
okay to.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Give that, Yeah, that's that would be great, all right,
let me.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Just find it here. So we would like you to
contact Kayla Marty. It's Kayla Marty.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
The I do have the flyer in front of me
here it says for more details, this is the email
address to reach Kayla Marty. That's ka y l A
dot Marty m A r t Y Kayla dot Marty
at Concordia Omaha dot org. Now I'm guessing by the
email ads that Kayla works at the school. Yes, she does,
(08:04):
so it'll probably be easier. Just if you have questions
about this, call Concordia, ask for Kayla, ask for the
person in charge of the Concordia Children's Business Fair, and
they'll put you in touch with Kayla and she can
answer all your questions and get you and your kid
registered by March twenty eighth. Sound fair sounds good, excellent?
What else do we need to know here, Taylor and
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Michael about the upcoming Concordia Children's Business Fair.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Just please know it's going to be fun. As you
can tell, there were not a lot of rules or
regulations to be able to participate. Just come in, make
money and have fun along the way. That's really all
that we're aiming to do here.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And for people who show up on that date here,
just the public that wants to see what these kids
are offering. Is there a charge to get in or
do you have to make a reservation and advance get tickets?
How does that work?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
It's open. You can come right in the door there.
We take cash card. We also are prepared for thecational check.
So we did open to everybody and anybody.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
All right, Taylor Galvin. There also Michael Holtzbauer with the
seventh annual Concordia Children's Business Fair coming up from ten
until one on Saturday, April twelfth at Concordia their campus
there at one hundred and fifty sixth and Fort Street.
If you've got a child at age five to eighteen
and they might have a business idea to be a
part of this, Maybe get together with some of their friends.
(09:25):
Then reach out to Concordia and find Kayla Marty. She
is the one in charge of the Concordia Business Fair
and she'll answer all of your questions. Taylor and Michael,
this is such a great thing you're doing for kids
in our community. Thanks for telling us about it. Thanks
for being here on Community Matters.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Thank you for having us, and we look forward to
seeing the whole community there.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yep, thank you so much for helping out.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You're listening to Community Matters. And next up on the program,
we welcome part owner of Omaha's local pro wrestling promotion,
Magnum Wrestling, Cody Guffy, is with us in advance of
a really fun event coming up this Friday. Cody, welcome
to Community Matters. What's going on this Friday, March twenty first,
This Friday.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Is going to be a weekend at Strikes Volume three.
It's kind of our WrestleMania if you will. Yeah, it's
our big payoff show and we do two of them
a year, in both March and September. This one's our
big focus one, kind of our anniversary, if you will,
when we came back after we lost our owner, Jason
Stretch Nathan Blodget's real name, And basically it's just kind
of our big payoff to a lot of our storylines
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and it's all done for charity as well too. This
year we're going to be having the benefits are going
to be going to the Good Life Bulldog Rescue as
well as Muddy Pause Animal Rescue as well too, so
all proceeds will be going to both those organizations.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Very cool and thank you very much for giving back.
I love events that are a lot of fun and
for a great cause here, so tell me all the
details about how someone can witness what's going down this
Friday night here in Omaha.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
So it's gonna be taking place the Relevant Center out
in Elkhorn, big giant facility. Last year last March was
the first time we ever ran there and it was
incredible with the screens, the lights, the whole nine yards.
I promise you there's been months and months of planning
going into this. You can get ticks at simple ticks
dot com. Magnum Wrestling on there. Otherwise, all of our
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social media is on Facebook, Instagram. There's a link to
the ticket site that's going to be Magnum Wrestling on
both Instagram and Facebook as well, and a.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Portion of the proceeds benefit a local animal rescues. So
how how many spots do you have left here? I
imagine with the popularity of wrestling that this is probably
pretty close to a sellout.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Now, Yeah, we're very close to a sellout. And actually
it's going to be all proceeds are going to go
to both the rescues. We make zero dollars on this
operating costs and the rest goes to the rescues. But yeah,
we are. We're very close to a sellout. It's been
pretty crazy. We're looking at if. At last I checked,
I believe there's still about fifty total seats. They're all
(12:00):
gonna be ring sides in general admission. Yeah, there's about
about fifty total seats.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Left, all right. So when someone is there at the
Relevant Center inn Elcorn right off of about two hundred
twelfth and Maple Street in northwest Omaha, what are they
going to see this Friday night? We're talking like Steele
Cage and what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Oh, we got to plan out for you. We have
our Magnum tacking titles will be defended our Magnum Champions
of the Crucible have held the titles over two reigns,
over nine hundred total days. Paying off of the big
feud with our big man red Wing, main event is
going to be for the Magnum title. That is the
third face off between red Wing himself. He gets to
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wrestle twice. He's gonna be facing our champion, Justin Saller,
who's been champions since we came back three years ago.
So that's gonna be a big one right there. But
outside of that, we do have a k ladder match
with seven competitors. The winner gets a shot at the
Magnum title of their choosing, so they can pick whatever
title they want whenever they want it, no matter what
they can cash in, they're just guaranteed a shot at
(13:02):
that moment. So we'll be a seven man ladder match,
and then we will also be crowning our very first
women's champion. We have built our women's division and now
it's time to put a title in it. So we'll
be crowning our very first women's champion. We have named
that one the Hellcat Champion in line with our gun
and jet them that Magnum wrestling is, so we'll be
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crowning them a bunch of other feuds. There will be
an unsanctioned match which is going to be essentially a
hardcore match, so you'll be having tables, tables, ladders, chairs,
you name it. It's a big feud right there that
these guys will be paying off a lot of bad
blood there. So it'll be very, very entertaining.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Man, I think this sounds like great fun. I grew
up in the eighties and of course Hawk Hogan and
the Dawn of WrestleMania was one of the biggest things
in the world when I was growing up. How did
you get into professional wrestling? Cody?
Speaker 6 (13:54):
So, I have been I'm deio, tried and true. I've
been a diehard wrestling fan basically my whole life, since
I was about nine year years old. You know, when
kids grow up and they want to be a you know,
they want to be a firefighter, a police officer, things
of that nature. I always want to be a pro wrestler.
It's always been my dream. And then I looked into
schools and then you know, of course, life happens. I
got out of college and stuff like that, and then
finally the moment arised around COVID to finally pull the
(14:17):
trigger and just train for it and actually go to
school for it, and the rest is just men in history, man.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And so what will you be doing on Friday? Are
you in the ring or what are you up to?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I will be in the ring. I am actually one
half of the tag team Champions, so I will be
defending the tag titles.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That is so cool? Was so when you were growing
up watching the professional wrestlers, who were the guys that
you liked watching when you were a kid?
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Uh, the two main guys that I would say of
like been a lot, you know, you see a lot
in my work and stuff like that, And like how
I am I'm a big Matchaman Randy Savage fan charisma
is amazing. Thinking about Matroman was awesome. And then I
was a big Triple H fan. Still am a diehard
Triple H fan. So so those are my two pillars,
if you will. I got a chance to see Boston
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and rock stuff like that. They're all cool, but those
are my two main ones of all time.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, I figured you were just a little bit younger
than me. I had a chance to see Randy Macho
man Savage at the old Civic Auditorium. He and Miss
Elizabeth in the ring taking on Ricky the Dragon steamboat.
One of the coolest things I ever had a chance
to do in my entire life.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
So it's that Viege is incredible. Those are two incredible workers,
and I wish I'd been able to see him in person.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, it was amazing. Well for people who at any
point in their lives have appreciated the fun and the
spirit of professional wrestling. It's this Friday night, it's called
Weekend at Strife's. What's the significance of that name, Cody.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
So it's named after Jason Streis, which was his wrestling
name again, Nathan Bogek. He was the owner of Magnum Wrestling,
who unfortunately did pass away a couple of years ago
due to complications with the anti immune disease and then
as well as cancer. So this is just our way
of paying homage to him. Again, it's our anniversary show
every year. It's just how we just pay homage to him.
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His family will be there, everything, and it's just it's
to honor him. And a Weekend at Strife was actually
he was in hospice obviously forty past It was what
he actually named the show. It's based off weekend of
Bernie's so and that just kind of became our yearly
anniversary show every March.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And why is it so important for you to have
a component of this be giving to local charities Because he.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Was big into giving back and we as well are
big into giving back. So I mean, anything worth doing
if you can help other people along the way, is
the perfect thing to do. And he's a big dog lover,
and I'm a giant dog lover, So of course giving
back to charities that has to do with that, like rescues,
is huge to us. And then in addition, usually in
September we give back to like suicide awareness. Last year
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was pediatric cancer. So we just find really good, solid organizations.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
And for those to say, yeah, my kids are big
into professional wrestling. Is family friendly this Friday night? I
presume yes.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yeah, sure, there may be a couple swear words and
stuff like that, some weapons, but yeah, no, it's definitely
family friendly, So.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Very very cool. Magnum Wrestling dot simpletics dot com is
where you can go or just do a Google search
or Magnum Wrestling. Can they contact the relevant center and
Elcorn to get tickets or they have to go through
your website.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
No, you go, you have to go through the simple
Tics website that or if you go to again our
Facebook or Instagram page at Magnum Wrestling, there will be
a link on there that just brings you straight to
the ticket ordering.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
All right, that's Cody Guffy with Magnum Wrestling. You'll see
him in the ring this Friday night. The doors open
at six, the show starts at seven, and watch for
Cody there as part of the Tag Team Champion Team
Weekend at Strife, supporting Money Pause and the Good Life
Bulldog Rescue to local animal rescue organizations. That's this Friday
night in Elcorn at the Relevant Center. Cody, this is
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so cool what you're doing here for local charities and
providing some entertainment for our community. Thank you so much
for telling us about it on Community Matters.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Thank you, I appreciate it, and thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
For being with us on Community Matters. This week, we
have time for one more segment discussing a very significant
anniversary this past week. For more on all of this
from iHeartRadio, it's Manny Munios.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
It was five years ago that COVID nineteen was officially
declared a global pandemic. Hard to imagine it's been that long,
with everything that has happened since then.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
But what did we do right?
Speaker 7 (18:26):
What did we do wrong? What have we learned? And
are we better or worse off prepared to deal with
the next one. It's bringing an expert to answer some
of those questions for us. Doctor J. Wolfson is a
Distinguished Service Professor of Public Health, Medicine and Pharmacy the
University of South Florida. Doctor Wolfson, I appreciate the time.
Thanks for sharing it with us.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
My pleasure. Man, It's always good to speak with you.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Yeah, you as well, sir. Let me start off with that.
I remember after the World Health Organization declared the pandemic.
The next day we went into the supermarket. You couldn't
find a lifesol or bleach inexplicably, for some reason, we
couldn't find toilet paper either. In some ways, it's hard
to believe it's been five years, and many others it isn't.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
It is hard to produce in five years. Time flies,
whether you're having fun or not in those early days.
I think many of us either remember it very clearly
or it's a blur. I remember as early as December,
I began seeing data from Europe about the spread of
respiratory viruses and some cardiovascular systems. By January, it was
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clear that we had something more than just a new
flu on our hands. And it wasn't until just five
years ago in March, that the World Health Organization was
able to put together enough of its own data to
say this is a real pandemic, which means it's not
just isolated to one country or one region, but it's
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an infectious disease that's spreading across the world. And people
were scared. People were dying, they were dying in large numbers,
and because it was unclear exactly what was going on,
a lot of people actually felt that we were in
being invaded by that we were at war, that there
was some new kind of disease or illness that was us.
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It took the World Health Organization while to get to
the point of declaring the pandemic. Many of us thought
that by February it was pretty clear, But the World
Health Organization also dropped the ball on a few other issues.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Manny.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
The biggest one, I think was they did not push
China hard enough in the early days of this to
make data available that will never be found again about
the source about so we learned a lot about what
the World Health Organization didn't do.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah, and that's something that's going to be one of
the biggest questions arguably about the pandemic, right how exactly
did it really start? There's still the debate that was
it an accidental, an accident at the Wuhan lab. There
was it human animal to human transmission at the wet lab,
And because of the lack of transparency by the Chinese
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early on, we'll never get those answers for sure, will.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
We We will not. But I think we kind of
have to move on. And you've kind of suggest that before.
We can't just dwell on the path that say, oh
my god, you know what, what did we do wrong?
What did we do wrong? We know that some of
the things we did wrong we can learn from those things,
and some of the lessons are very very important. A
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lot of it, a lot of it has to do
with good science, good medicine, the role of the media,
how social media played into medicine and science in ways
that none of us had ever previously expected, and it
changed the way we as citizens whether we're healthcare professionals
(22:00):
or or or workers in public look look to look
to the government, and look to public health for guidance, advice,
and accurate information.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Yeah, and we're going to get into a lot of that.
And one of the reasons I was always happy to
speak to you about this is because not only are
you objective and you present both sides, but the politics
is taken out of it while we're discussing all of
these things with you, and you brought up a lot
of issues there. But let me start off with this.
What did we and by we, I mean you public
health officials and us as Americans? What did we do
(22:33):
right at least initially? Did we do anything right early on?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Yeah? Yeah, I think we tried to do something right,
But I want to make sure that there's a there's
a kind of a predicate lane. Unlike many other countries,
the United States does not have a single public health system.
We have separate state systems. Every single state is responsible
for managing its own public health systems and information. We
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have the centrist to Disease Control and Prevention. We have
the FDA. We have some other organizations, but those are
more agencies that collect data but they don't have power,
they don't have regulatory authority over what the states do.
So it's not liked most of Europe and most of
the other countries in the world that have a centralized
national public health system. So part of the issue is
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simply communicating information as we learned what was going on.
I think it became clear early on that this was
a new type of disease, that we had to be
careful what we did, and that there were some things
that made sense in the early days. It made sense
to think about locking down to a limited degree. It
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seemed to make sense to socially distance, It seemed to
make sense to mask It seemed to make sense, even
perhaps at the early days, to consider closing schools. But
most of those those things turned out to be not
good for long term policy and practice, and some of
them were just bad decisions because we already had a
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lot of information early on in the pandemic Manny, I'd say,
by March, in April and May, we knew an awful
lot and we didn't convey it to the public that
what we I think the most important thing we learned
was that we've failed to exercise transparency. We were afraid
as a matter of public policy, I think in public
(24:31):
health at both the state and federal levels, to put
fear into people's heads that they shouldn't take these aggressive actions.
And as a consequence, we limited the kind of information
that was available to the public, right, and that was
that I think became long a long term damaging issue.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yeah, and that might affect us and when we faced
the next pandemic, how this last one was handled, Because
you've met this before. Even respected medical professionals, doctors, scientists
who might have had what at the time would have
been contrarian views, those conversations were kind of squelshed, right,
those they were never allowed to be brought into a
(25:15):
mainstream conversation about how to address the virus.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Spot on manny. And these are hundreds of respected scientists
and physicians and researchers across the country. They weren't always
question Some of them lost their jobs as a consequence.
They produced good research, it was not published. The major
journals were very, very limited in what they would publish,
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and that that helped I think all of us later
later on understand that there is there's a there's a
controlling force even within the respective literature but historically, Manny,
you know it was it's it's science is a process
of asking questions, of getting some contrary information, of discussing it,
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of looking around it, and sometimes recognizing that what you
thought was true yesterday may not be true today, and
that may change tomorrow. Keeping it open and transparent and
the dialogue open is what we didn't do, and that's unfortunate.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Do you think it was done in the name of
trying to save lives and keep the country safe or
was it done for some other reasons.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
I think ultimately there was to save lives and keep
the country safe, but beneath that there were other reasons.
There was a belief at fairly high levels that vaccines
in all cases are the best way to solve infectious
disease problems, especially these kinds of viruses, and that perspective
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became a driving force at the national level of public health,
at the CDC, at the FDA, of the national Institutes
of Health, and it was adopted that the policy instead
the policy requirement and was what was ignored. What was
ignored early on was if that natural immunity is something
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that occurs with viruses like this. While the COVID virus
was unique. It was not unknown. It was not something
that we knew nothing about it all. We kind of
knew things about how it behaved. It behaved in many
ways knew and differently from some other viruses because it
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embedded in muscle tissue and it would wait until even
after the acute episodes of illness to erupt in some people,
creating myocarditis and respiratory illnesses and brain fog and skin rashes.
But we also knew that if you acquired a disease
like that, there's a pretty good chance that you would
have natural immunity, and that factor was nearly ignored as
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a matter of public health policy, that even people who
had gotten the disease were told they had to get immunized.
We also knew very early on, and this is really
important because it came out as part of the Grand
Jury reports that I know that you've read, the three
Grand Jewry Reports, the State of Florida, the Special Grand
Juriya on COVID. We knew early on that young men
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between the ages of eighteen and thirty were more prone
to something Mark carded it's inflammation of the heart. Even
before long before COVID. We've all heard stories of young
high school and young college athletes, men just collapsing on
the field during training or during the game and having
heart attacks on some of the nine that was the deal.
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But we know that that population, for a number of reasons,
has a higher likelihood of having mior cardatists. We learned
early on that COVID itself also created a higher risk
of that for that population. And as the pharmaceutical companies
reveled into vaccines in their political trials, they recognized that
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as well, but it was never revealed. So there were
a lot of things early on that we learned we
didn't deployed, which is everybody's got to get vaccinated. It's important,
you know, everybody's got to get locked down. That was
not a good idea. Distancing is important, we learned early
on that wasn't important. Wearing the masks. The idea of
wearing a mask is useful if you use the right
kind of mask, which most people didn't, if you use
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it correctly, which are very few. People didn't, and as
a consequence, they had a false sense of security about
the role of mask.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Doctor J. Wolfson, Distinguished Professor, Service Professor, Public Health Medicine,
Pharmacy at the University of South Florida. I'm truly appreciative
to you for your time your expertise. Thank you so much.
Be well, Doc, my.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Pleasure many you'll be well and be safe. Thank here
by bye.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
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This is Community Matters, a weekly public affairs program to
inform and entertain you with some of the great people, organizations,
and events in and around Omaha. Now here's the host
of the program from news radio eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It's Scott for Heats and thank you so much for
being a part of our program this week. The annual
Concordia Children's Business Fars coming up here in just a
few weeks time, Saturday, April twelfth, from ten until one o'clock,
and we're going to get all the details from two
people involved with this seventh annual event. We've got Taylor
Galvin with us and Michael Holtzbauer. Guys, thank you so
(00:42):
much for being on the program.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So you guys are sitting there together, you just elbow
each other out of the way. As to who wants
to answer these questions, the first one is tell me
about the Children's Business Fair and why it's happening.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
So, the Children's Business Sers happening because we are passionate
about empowering the next generation of entrepreneurs. We're targeting K
through twelve, that's typically ages five through eighteen. We want
to give them the tools and opportunities to successfully run
their own business. So we're aiming at thought, that creativity,
you know, exercise critical thinking, and overall ultimately get confidence
(01:21):
in our students.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Give me an idea of some of the things that
these students are able to do, including as young as five,
to be able to learn some business acumen, you know what, Scott.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Typically for the younger it could be a product or
a service. So we'll usually see you know, like lemonade staying.
Maybe it's based good. Sometimes it's also a service, so
you know, if the snow keeps hitting us, shoveling some
driveways or even mowing along is what we typically see.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
All right, that's very cool. What about for the older
kids as they start getting to those college years and
starting to really think about their future.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean, what we've seen is anywhere from liked printers
to they even start their lawnscaping companies. They want to
get that going instead of potentially go to college or
just to create funds to go to college. Is what
we're seeing there as well.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Are there businesses from around the Omaha area that go
to this business fair and almost from a recruiting standpoint,
be able to engage with these students.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Absolutely, I mean that could be our end goal. We
are looking at growing the program. This year is year
seven and hopefully although it's on site at Kincordia Lutheran
School at this moment, we are hoping to branch out
and be part of a larger on site such as
like Baxter Arena or Chi and at that point recruiters
from other companies can potentially come out and you know,
(02:46):
find new talent.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
This is going to be on Saturday, April twelfth, from
ten am to one pm at Concordia, which is right
there at one hundred and fifty sixth and fourth in
Northwest Omaha, the seventh annual Children's Business Fair. Talking here
with Taylor and Michael with the Business Fair. So what
can the public do to be a part of this
and help support these young potential entrepreneurs.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, what they can do is they can come out
and support us. So basically it's kind of a round
robin event. So like you walk around the gym and
they have all their booths set up, and what you
can do is engage with they are the participants and
if you like their goods, you can buy it from them.
Right then, and there and help support them that way,
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And that's really what we're trying to get at, and
we're just trying to spread the words. So if people want,
if people want to have their kids involved, there is
a sign up process and that's due by March twenty eighth.
But if they just want to come and support the
local kids and in this business fair, then it is
on the twelfth from ten to one.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So you don't have to be a student at Concordia
to be a part of the Entrepreneur No, you do not.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Oh that's another thing that we're trying to do this
year too, is we've reached out to other area schools
to try to get more participants involved with this as well.
So we're trying to get it and that's why we're
thinking about going to backstor renurse Ehi Center is because
we want it to create more of a greater Nebraska
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or greater Omaha area children's business there.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
All right, So what are the rules for someone who
wants to be a part of this children's business fair?
What do they mean age requirements in terms of what
kind of things they're going to do. What is part
of the process for being able to be what I'm
sure is the limited space available at this business fair.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah, so easy, it's one to knock out. Is just
to be the age rings. Typically for our younger participants
or vendors you like to call them, they typically like
bring friends and family along. Parents can be a huge
role in it. We love to see a fun their
student mentality. Come with your own product, your own idea,
and just see how it lands with the community. Maybe
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it's something that people genuinely want and you can launch
this after high school and continue thriving in that business.
On top of that, we just really also want to
give them knowledge on how profit works, how budgeting works,
how policement matters, and advertising matters. So being able to
be coachable in that aspect goes a long way.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
That's Taylor Galvin also Michael Holtzbauer with us. How long
have you guys been involved with this children's business fair.
I know this is the seventh annual, so.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
We really partnered with them. We've only been working on
for the last two months and we're trying to make
it so that way if Kayla, who is really the
main person in charge, if she ever needs to step
away or kind of handed down we're trying to create
a model that is scalable and repeatable to hand off
(06:02):
to like a parent that wants to be involved, or
just to grow it and give all these resources. So
that's what we've been trying to do the last two
months to help out.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, and I was curious whether since it's been going
on for seven years, whether we've seen the seeds planted
with some of the high school age students as part
of this children's Business fair actually have led to anything.
Like you know, I had this idea a few years
ago to be able to bring people things that the
order online, and then I created Amazon.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You know that kind of thing you yeah, happens. We
actually have a couple of success stories. One that comes
to my mind is we had a student that actually
developed a service and he launched it and he actually
couldn't even attend the year prior before he graduated because
of how successful his business was doing.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Very cool. So if someone wants to be a part
of this, I noticed the registration you said was March
twenty eighth. You have to register by that date and
that's coming right up here. So how do they register?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
There is a flyer that we have out, but Taylor.
Do you know how they can register? I don't know
off the top of my head.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, you know what we are. We do have some
things that we're kind of posting around the community here
in Omaha, so check like any local, you know, community centers.
We'll get things posted up. Other than that, please reach out.
We actually have an email and I address if I'm
okay to.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Give that, Yeah, that's that would be great, all right,
let me.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Just find it here. So we would like you to
contact Kayla Marty. It's Kayla Marty.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
The I do have the flyer in front of me
here it says for more details, this is the email
address to reach Kayla Marty. That's ka y l A
dot Marty m A r t Y Kayla dot Marty
at Concordia Omaha dot org. Now I'm guessing by the
email ads that Kayla works at the school. Yes, she does,
(08:04):
so it'll probably be easier. Just if you have questions
about this, call Concordia, ask for Kayla, ask for the
person in charge of the Concordia Children's Business Fair, and
they'll put you in touch with Kayla and she can
answer all your questions and get you and your kid
registered by March twenty eighth. Sound fair sounds good, excellent?
What else do we need to know here, Taylor and
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Michael about the upcoming Concordia Children's Business Fair.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Just please know it's going to be fun. As you
can tell, there were not a lot of rules or
regulations to be able to participate. Just come in, make
money and have fun along the way. That's really all
that we're aiming to do here.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And for people who show up on that date here,
just the public that wants to see what these kids
are offering. Is there a charge to get in or
do you have to make a reservation and advance get tickets?
How does that work?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
It's open. You can come right in the door there.
We take cash card. We also are prepared for thecational check.
So we did open to everybody and anybody.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
All right, Taylor Galvin. There also Michael Holtzbauer with the
seventh annual Concordia Children's Business Fair coming up from ten
until one on Saturday, April twelfth at Concordia their campus
there at one hundred and fifty sixth and Fort Street.
If you've got a child at age five to eighteen
and they might have a business idea to be a
part of this, Maybe get together with some of their friends.
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Then reach out to Concordia and find Kayla Marty. She
is the one in charge of the Concordia Business Fair
and she'll answer all of your questions. Taylor and Michael,
this is such a great thing you're doing for kids
in our community. Thanks for telling us about it. Thanks
for being here on Community Matters.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Thank you for having us, and we look forward to
seeing the whole community there.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yep, thank you so much for helping out.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You're listening to Community Matters. And next up on the program,
we welcome part owner of Omaha's local pro wrestling promotion,
Magnum Wrestling, Cody Guffy, is with us in advance of
a really fun event coming up this Friday. Cody, welcome
to Community Matters. What's going on this Friday, March twenty first,
This Friday.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Is going to be a weekend at Strikes Volume three.
It's kind of our WrestleMania if you will. Yeah, it's
our big payoff show and we do two of them
a year, in both March and September. This one's our
big focus one, kind of our anniversary, if you will,
when we came back after we lost our owner, Jason
Stretch Nathan Blodget's real name, And basically it's just kind
of our big payoff to a lot of our storylines
(10:29):
and it's all done for charity as well too. This
year we're going to be having the benefits are going
to be going to the Good Life Bulldog Rescue as
well as Muddy Pause Animal Rescue as well too, so
all proceeds will be going to both those organizations.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Very cool and thank you very much for giving back.
I love events that are a lot of fun and
for a great cause here, so tell me all the
details about how someone can witness what's going down this
Friday night here in Omaha.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
So it's gonna be taking place the Relevant Center out
in Elkhorn, big giant facility. Last year last March was
the first time we ever ran there and it was
incredible with the screens, the lights, the whole nine yards.
I promise you there's been months and months of planning
going into this. You can get ticks at simple ticks
dot com. Magnum Wrestling on there. Otherwise, all of our
(11:20):
social media is on Facebook, Instagram. There's a link to
the ticket site that's going to be Magnum Wrestling on
both Instagram and Facebook as well, and a.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Portion of the proceeds benefit a local animal rescues. So
how how many spots do you have left here? I
imagine with the popularity of wrestling that this is probably
pretty close to a sellout.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
Now, Yeah, we're very close to a sellout. And actually
it's going to be all proceeds are going to go
to both the rescues. We make zero dollars on this
operating costs and the rest goes to the rescues. But yeah,
we are. We're very close to a sellout. It's been
pretty crazy. We're looking at if. At last I checked,
I believe there's still about fifty total seats. They're all
(12:00):
gonna be ring sides in general admission. Yeah, there's about
about fifty total seats.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Left, all right. So when someone is there at the
Relevant Center inn Elcorn right off of about two hundred
twelfth and Maple Street in northwest Omaha, what are they
going to see this Friday night? We're talking like Steele
Cage and what are we doing?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Oh, we got to plan out for you. We have
our Magnum tacking titles will be defended our Magnum Champions
of the Crucible have held the titles over two reigns,
over nine hundred total days. Paying off of the big
feud with our big man red Wing, main event is
going to be for the Magnum title. That is the
third face off between red Wing himself. He gets to
(12:41):
wrestle twice. He's gonna be facing our champion, Justin Saller,
who's been champions since we came back three years ago.
So that's gonna be a big one right there. But
outside of that, we do have a k ladder match
with seven competitors. The winner gets a shot at the
Magnum title of their choosing, so they can pick whatever
title they want whenever they want it, no matter what
they can cash in, they're just guaranteed a shot at
(13:02):
that moment. So we'll be a seven man ladder match,
and then we will also be crowning our very first
women's champion. We have built our women's division and now
it's time to put a title in it. So we'll
be crowning our very first women's champion. We have named
that one the Hellcat Champion in line with our gun
and jet them that Magnum wrestling is, so we'll be
(13:24):
crowning them a bunch of other feuds. There will be
an unsanctioned match which is going to be essentially a
hardcore match, so you'll be having tables, tables, ladders, chairs,
you name it. It's a big feud right there that
these guys will be paying off a lot of bad
blood there. So it'll be very, very entertaining.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Man, I think this sounds like great fun. I grew
up in the eighties and of course Hawk Hogan and
the Dawn of WrestleMania was one of the biggest things
in the world when I was growing up. How did
you get into professional wrestling? Cody?
Speaker 6 (13:54):
So, I have been I'm deio, tried and true. I've
been a diehard wrestling fan basically my whole life, since
I was about nine year years old. You know, when
kids grow up and they want to be a you know,
they want to be a firefighter, a police officer, things
of that nature. I always want to be a pro wrestler.
It's always been my dream. And then I looked into
schools and then you know, of course, life happens. I
got out of college and stuff like that, and then
finally the moment arised around COVID to finally pull the
(14:17):
trigger and just train for it and actually go to
school for it, and the rest is just men in history, man.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And so what will you be doing on Friday? Are
you in the ring or what are you up to?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I will be in the ring. I am actually one
half of the tag team Champions, so I will be
defending the tag titles.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That is so cool? Was so when you were growing
up watching the professional wrestlers, who were the guys that
you liked watching when you were a kid?
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Uh, the two main guys that I would say of
like been a lot, you know, you see a lot
in my work and stuff like that, And like how
I am I'm a big Matchaman Randy Savage fan charisma
is amazing. Thinking about Matroman was awesome. And then I
was a big Triple H fan. Still am a diehard
Triple H fan. So so those are my two pillars,
if you will. I got a chance to see Boston
(15:05):
and rock stuff like that. They're all cool, but those
are my two main ones of all time.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, I figured you were just a little bit younger
than me. I had a chance to see Randy Macho
man Savage at the old Civic Auditorium. He and Miss
Elizabeth in the ring taking on Ricky the Dragon steamboat.
One of the coolest things I ever had a chance
to do in my entire life.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
So it's that Viege is incredible. Those are two incredible workers,
and I wish I'd been able to see him in person.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, it was amazing. Well for people who at any
point in their lives have appreciated the fun and the
spirit of professional wrestling. It's this Friday night, it's called
Weekend at Strife's. What's the significance of that name, Cody.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
So it's named after Jason Streis, which was his wrestling
name again, Nathan Bogek. He was the owner of Magnum Wrestling,
who unfortunately did pass away a couple of years ago
due to complications with the anti immune disease and then
as well as cancer. So this is just our way
of paying homage to him. Again, it's our anniversary show
every year. It's just how we just pay homage to him.
(16:04):
His family will be there, everything, and it's just it's
to honor him. And a Weekend at Strife was actually
he was in hospice obviously forty past It was what
he actually named the show. It's based off weekend of
Bernie's so and that just kind of became our yearly
anniversary show every March.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And why is it so important for you to have
a component of this be giving to local charities Because he.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Was big into giving back and we as well are
big into giving back. So I mean, anything worth doing
if you can help other people along the way, is
the perfect thing to do. And he's a big dog lover,
and I'm a giant dog lover, So of course giving
back to charities that has to do with that, like rescues,
is huge to us. And then in addition, usually in
September we give back to like suicide awareness. Last year
(16:49):
was pediatric cancer. So we just find really good, solid organizations.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
And for those to say, yeah, my kids are big
into professional wrestling. Is family friendly this Friday night? I
presume yes.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
Yeah, sure, there may be a couple swear words and
stuff like that, some weapons, but yeah, no, it's definitely
family friendly, So.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Very very cool. Magnum Wrestling dot simpletics dot com is
where you can go or just do a Google search
or Magnum Wrestling. Can they contact the relevant center and
Elcorn to get tickets or they have to go through
your website.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
No, you go, you have to go through the simple
Tics website that or if you go to again our
Facebook or Instagram page at Magnum Wrestling, there will be
a link on there that just brings you straight to
the ticket ordering.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
All right, that's Cody Guffy with Magnum Wrestling. You'll see
him in the ring this Friday night. The doors open
at six, the show starts at seven, and watch for
Cody there as part of the Tag Team Champion Team
Weekend at Strife, supporting Money Pause and the Good Life
Bulldog Rescue to local animal rescue organizations. That's this Friday
night in Elcorn at the Relevant Center. Cody, this is
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so cool what you're doing here for local charities and
providing some entertainment for our community. Thank you so much
for telling us about it on Community Matters.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Thank you, I appreciate it, and thank you.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
For being with us on Community Matters. This week, we
have time for one more segment discussing a very significant
anniversary this past week. For more on all of this
from iHeartRadio, it's Manny Munios.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
It was five years ago that COVID nineteen was officially
declared a global pandemic. Hard to imagine it's been that long,
with everything that has happened since then.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
But what did we do right?
Speaker 7 (18:26):
What did we do wrong? What have we learned? And
are we better or worse off prepared to deal with
the next one. It's bringing an expert to answer some
of those questions for us. Doctor J. Wolfson is a
Distinguished Service Professor of Public Health, Medicine and Pharmacy the
University of South Florida. Doctor Wolfson, I appreciate the time.
Thanks for sharing it with us.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
My pleasure. Man, It's always good to speak with you.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Yeah, you as well, sir. Let me start off with that.
I remember after the World Health Organization declared the pandemic.
The next day we went into the supermarket. You couldn't
find a lifesol or bleach inexplicably, for some reason, we
couldn't find toilet paper either. In some ways, it's hard
to believe it's been five years, and many others it isn't.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
It is hard to produce in five years. Time flies,
whether you're having fun or not in those early days.
I think many of us either remember it very clearly
or it's a blur. I remember as early as December,
I began seeing data from Europe about the spread of
respiratory viruses and some cardiovascular systems. By January, it was
(19:35):
clear that we had something more than just a new
flu on our hands. And it wasn't until just five
years ago in March, that the World Health Organization was
able to put together enough of its own data to
say this is a real pandemic, which means it's not
just isolated to one country or one region, but it's
(19:56):
an infectious disease that's spreading across the world. And people
were scared. People were dying, they were dying in large numbers,
and because it was unclear exactly what was going on,
a lot of people actually felt that we were in
being invaded by that we were at war, that there
was some new kind of disease or illness that was us.
(20:19):
It took the World Health Organization while to get to
the point of declaring the pandemic. Many of us thought
that by February it was pretty clear, But the World
Health Organization also dropped the ball on a few other issues.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Manny.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
The biggest one, I think was they did not push
China hard enough in the early days of this to
make data available that will never be found again about
the source about so we learned a lot about what
the World Health Organization didn't do.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah, and that's something that's going to be one of
the biggest questions arguably about the pandemic, right how exactly
did it really start? There's still the debate that was
it an accidental, an accident at the Wuhan lab. There
was it human animal to human transmission at the wet lab,
And because of the lack of transparency by the Chinese
(21:14):
early on, we'll never get those answers for sure, will.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
We We will not. But I think we kind of
have to move on. And you've kind of suggest that before.
We can't just dwell on the path that say, oh
my god, you know what, what did we do wrong?
What did we do wrong? We know that some of
the things we did wrong we can learn from those things,
and some of the lessons are very very important. A
(21:37):
lot of it, a lot of it has to do
with good science, good medicine, the role of the media,
how social media played into medicine and science in ways
that none of us had ever previously expected, and it
changed the way we as citizens whether we're healthcare professionals
(22:00):
or or or workers in public look look to look
to the government, and look to public health for guidance, advice,
and accurate information.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Yeah, and we're going to get into a lot of that.
And one of the reasons I was always happy to
speak to you about this is because not only are
you objective and you present both sides, but the politics
is taken out of it while we're discussing all of
these things with you, and you brought up a lot
of issues there. But let me start off with this.
What did we and by we, I mean you public
health officials and us as Americans? What did we do
(22:33):
right at least initially? Did we do anything right early on?
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Yeah? Yeah, I think we tried to do something right,
But I want to make sure that there's a there's
a kind of a predicate lane. Unlike many other countries,
the United States does not have a single public health system.
We have separate state systems. Every single state is responsible
for managing its own public health systems and information. We
(23:00):
have the centrist to Disease Control and Prevention. We have
the FDA. We have some other organizations, but those are
more agencies that collect data but they don't have power,
they don't have regulatory authority over what the states do.
So it's not liked most of Europe and most of
the other countries in the world that have a centralized
national public health system. So part of the issue is
(23:23):
simply communicating information as we learned what was going on.
I think it became clear early on that this was
a new type of disease, that we had to be
careful what we did, and that there were some things
that made sense in the early days. It made sense
to think about locking down to a limited degree. It
(23:46):
seemed to make sense to socially distance, It seemed to
make sense to mask It seemed to make sense, even
perhaps at the early days, to consider closing schools. But
most of those those things turned out to be not
good for long term policy and practice, and some of
them were just bad decisions because we already had a
(24:09):
lot of information early on in the pandemic Manny, I'd say,
by March, in April and May, we knew an awful
lot and we didn't convey it to the public that
what we I think the most important thing we learned
was that we've failed to exercise transparency. We were afraid
as a matter of public policy, I think in public
(24:31):
health at both the state and federal levels, to put
fear into people's heads that they shouldn't take these aggressive actions.
And as a consequence, we limited the kind of information
that was available to the public, right, and that was
that I think became long a long term damaging issue.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Yeah, and that might affect us and when we faced
the next pandemic, how this last one was handled, Because
you've met this before. Even respected medical professionals, doctors, scientists
who might have had what at the time would have
been contrarian views, those conversations were kind of squelshed, right,
those they were never allowed to be brought into a
(25:15):
mainstream conversation about how to address the virus.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Spot on manny. And these are hundreds of respected scientists
and physicians and researchers across the country. They weren't always
question Some of them lost their jobs as a consequence.
They produced good research, it was not published. The major
journals were very, very limited in what they would publish,
(25:40):
and that that helped I think all of us later
later on understand that there is there's a there's a
controlling force even within the respective literature but historically, Manny,
you know it was it's it's science is a process
of asking questions, of getting some contrary information, of discussing it,
(26:01):
of looking around it, and sometimes recognizing that what you
thought was true yesterday may not be true today, and
that may change tomorrow. Keeping it open and transparent and
the dialogue open is what we didn't do, and that's unfortunate.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Do you think it was done in the name of
trying to save lives and keep the country safe or
was it done for some other reasons.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
I think ultimately there was to save lives and keep
the country safe, but beneath that there were other reasons.
There was a belief at fairly high levels that vaccines
in all cases are the best way to solve infectious
disease problems, especially these kinds of viruses, and that perspective
(26:48):
became a driving force at the national level of public health,
at the CDC, at the FDA, of the national Institutes
of Health, and it was adopted that the policy instead
the policy requirement and was what was ignored. What was
ignored early on was if that natural immunity is something
(27:10):
that occurs with viruses like this. While the COVID virus
was unique. It was not unknown. It was not something
that we knew nothing about it all. We kind of
knew things about how it behaved. It behaved in many
ways knew and differently from some other viruses because it
(27:30):
embedded in muscle tissue and it would wait until even
after the acute episodes of illness to erupt in some people,
creating myocarditis and respiratory illnesses and brain fog and skin rashes.
But we also knew that if you acquired a disease
like that, there's a pretty good chance that you would
have natural immunity, and that factor was nearly ignored as
(27:55):
a matter of public health policy, that even people who
had gotten the disease were told they had to get immunized.
We also knew very early on, and this is really
important because it came out as part of the Grand
Jury reports that I know that you've read, the three
Grand Jewry Reports, the State of Florida, the Special Grand
Juriya on COVID. We knew early on that young men
(28:16):
between the ages of eighteen and thirty were more prone
to something Mark carded it's inflammation of the heart. Even
before long before COVID. We've all heard stories of young
high school and young college athletes, men just collapsing on
the field during training or during the game and having
heart attacks on some of the nine that was the deal.
(28:36):
But we know that that population, for a number of reasons,
has a higher likelihood of having mior cardatists. We learned
early on that COVID itself also created a higher risk
of that for that population. And as the pharmaceutical companies
reveled into vaccines in their political trials, they recognized that
(28:58):
as well, but it was never revealed. So there were
a lot of things early on that we learned we
didn't deployed, which is everybody's got to get vaccinated. It's important,
you know, everybody's got to get locked down. That was
not a good idea. Distancing is important, we learned early
on that wasn't important. Wearing the masks. The idea of
wearing a mask is useful if you use the right
kind of mask, which most people didn't, if you use
(29:20):
it correctly, which are very few. People didn't, and as
a consequence, they had a false sense of security about
the role of mask.
Speaker 7 (29:27):
Doctor J. Wolfson, Distinguished Professor, Service Professor, Public Health Medicine,
Pharmacy at the University of South Florida. I'm truly appreciative
to you for your time your expertise. Thank you so much.
Be well, Doc, my.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
Pleasure many you'll be well and be safe. Thank here
by bye.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
This has been Community Matters, a weekly public affairs special
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