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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Beat Bob. He's a four time tire rotation champion. When
he was a baby, his first words were automatic transmission fluid.
Bob's so cool he has engine coolant running through his veins.
And then there's Kyle, also realn as Premium Unleaded. Legend
has it that Kyle can change your oil with his
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toes and that he can tell your tires all pressure
just by how you're walking.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He's Bob, He's.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Kyle, and every Saturday morning they morphed together to form
the greatest superhero known to man, Mister Mechanic check Engine
light Stone, stand a chance. This is the Mister Mechanic
Show on eleven ten, Kfab.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Great Saturday morning to you. This is a mister Mechanic show.
Five five, eight, eleven ten is the numbers to get in.
Get in early so we can answer your questions and
get you back to the park store.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
We are.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You can in service centers at fiftieth in Dodge, eightieth
and Dodge and guaranteed Breaks forty ninth Avenue and Dodge.
Stop in and see us and get you back on
the road. Joined as always by Kyle. Good morning Kyle. Yeah,
nice cold brisk morning out that you know, winter's coming
and going and coming and going. I see some snow
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in the forecasts.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
We had our first almost spring this past week. I yeah,
it was pretty nice.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I didn't have a jacket on for at least two days.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And we had a salt shower from the uh Man,
and you know, we kind of needed. I'm kind of
down on all the salt that goes on the ground,
but you know that that last little ice storm was
kind of hairy. Yeah, we had a couple of them
this year. We'll see if we hold out and maybe
get a little bit of snow.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
It was supposed to freezing rain last night. I think
I heard on the way home. And then I woke
up this morning. I was like, well that lasted a
long time. A good deal.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, you know, we're not getting any and we need
the moist year, you know, we just we just do.
And Florida doesn't need it. They got water all over
the place and they're getting snow.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah. Isn't that wild?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It is kind of wild.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
I think Douglas County is like the only county within
what two thousand miles of ourselves in any direction that
has had zero snow. Oh really, Yeah. I saw this
figure the other day. I was like, that's ironic.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I'm sure there's some sort of atmospheric bubble that we
don't know about, some sort of meat role like.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
The Truman Show.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, I mean we have. Yeah, we have more
terms now than we ever knew that we had in
the past, and which is fine. We got to name
them so we know what to talk about when well,
yeah that comes about. Yeah, otherwise we wouldn't have anything
to talk about. Yeah, we wouldn't be interesting if we
didn't name cars. Yeah, and just said there's the green one,
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there's a blue one. We have to name them so
we know what we got so we don't have to
fight in the parking lot.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I mean if they were all the same, I mean,
that wouldn't be any fun.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I can you imagine living in a Russia and they're
all the same car and they all they're all black,
kind of like the Henry Ford deal back in the
day with the Model T. So maybe that's why the
license came out. You know, I don't know how would you.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Find your car?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah, you just take whichever won. Yeah, well, last guy and.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Are in a car for you? I just guess you're walking.
It's kind of like a military thing.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Did you just get in and go because there is
no keys. All right, we're going to head into the calls.
Twenty seventeen Chevy Cruise, Mike, what's up today?
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Yeah, good morning, Thanks for taking my call. It's as
you said, a twenty seventeen Chevy Cruise. Got the one
point four liter four cylinder, and it will crank but
won't start. And historically it would give me a check
engine and I would check it and it would tell
me cylinder one and three were misfiring, and so I
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had never done anything with it. I just reset the
code and it would go back to run and fine.
And then when it wouldn't start, I thought, well, I'll
replace the coil and the plug. So I did that,
and still just cranks but no art, and I thought, well,
maybe I got a fuel problem. So I put my
code reader on there, and when it's cranking, it's cranking
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at like two hundred and seventy seven RPMs, and it's
got thirteen hundred pounds of fuel pressure at the rail
and then sixty pounds, it says, So I assume the
sixty is what's coming from the electric fuel pump, and
I'm just, you know, struggling with what are my next
steps here? It doesn't seem to be firing.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Okay, so we know you've got engine speed on your monitor,
so we know our crank sensors at least picking up
that we have the correct fuel pressure. So what we
need to look at is does this car actually have spark?
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Car?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
When the thing that I did before the fuel pressure
is I pulled the number one coil off of the
plug and I put one of the old plugs in there,
and I held it up against the valve cover and
had my wife crank it, and it had good spark.
I don't know the timing of it, you know, but
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but there was a solid spark when I tried that.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Okay, so we've got fuel, we've got spark. We can
assume we have air.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yep, got air, fuel and spark. So it sounds like
we've got that.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
How did your plugs look? Were they really wet?
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I didn't notice anything about them when I pulled them out.
They didn't look black or dirty or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
There was no residue moisture or anything like that on no. Okay,
so we need to see if we're actually getting fuel
to the cylinder. Can we spray some carburetor cleaner and
the intake? Will it start?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Then?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I did not go to the intake. What I tried
to do is I took some starter fluid and I
sprayed it into the inlet of the turbo and I
thought I sprayed a lot in there and cranked it,
but it just doesn't quite go. Yeah, but I'm if
there's a better smarter.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Way, we always open go directly to the intake and
on that car, I mean, it can be a little
bit tough, but I mean you can pull off the
hose going to your throttle body. I mean that one's
a little bit tougher and spray them in there, or
you know, go to pop pop off the hose for
your break booster and sprace them in there. That's a
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little bit easier.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, so we know we've got air fuel spark. Now
we've got to head towards injector pulse. We've got to
make sure that it's actually pulsing and trying to the
computer's trying to pulse it.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
And that's going to be kind of difficult. On that
direct injected car. You're not going to want to just
plug anoid light into that because you're gonna pop.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It, Let's check compression first before we go there. So okay,
because if we got compression that is great, then maybe
we're looking for an injector pulse. But if we got
compression that's low, then maybe we've got a timing that's
problem and it's jumped, and that's kind of why you're
not you're not cranking over, not starting. Did it make
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any noise when you shut it off or shut off?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Normal? Just come back out and it just wouldn't go.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Yeah, you know, we came home nothing abnormal, went to
start it and it won't go, and no check engine light.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Okay, Well, and it's just.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
You know, and if you spray, like what Kyle is
trying to do is get you the spray, a little
bit of carbretor cleaner in there, the fires off. We know,
everything else is good and we're missing you know, fuel,
fuel and the other the quick easy things that you
can do or that you haven't done yet is let's
do a compression test.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
You know, Okay, I can do that.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Okay, Let's also maybe have somebody crank it over while
you're see what the compression test, says first, and if
that's fine, then maybe bang on the gas tank and
while somebody's cranking it and see if it pops off
that way. You know, the next thing after that would
be injector pulse, and then you're you're down to timing
and exhaust. That's that's true.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
What's banging on the fuel tank gonna do? If I
already have sixty pounds in that telling me that the
electric pump is working, well, it tells you.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
That it's building pressure.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
We don't know the volume of this.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Pump, right, okay, so not enough flow right.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And sometimes shocking it puts it back into and and
we've started Minia cars that the fuel pump's bad and
started it that way. You just shock it and it goes.
We know the fuel pumps bad and it needs to
be replaced.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
So okay, yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Got a couple more a couple more things we got
to get before you get there.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
But start with your compression check on that minute that engine.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Yep, okay, so I'll knock that out. What how do
I check the injector pulsing.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Well on that particular car with direct injected since well,
I mean you've got a scanner there that I mean
apparently gives you some kind of data. So I mean
you can look through there that there might be a
PID depending on the capability of this scanner you have,
that'll say injector pulse with something like.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That, and that tells you if it's coming, that tells
you if it's coming open or closed.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
That'll tell you that your computer is commanding this amount
of pulse out of your injectors.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Yep, all right, I got a I got a blue driver.
I don't know if it you know, if it can.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Do that or not.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
No, No.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
The other thing I would look at is your coolant
temperature sensor. See what that guy's saying.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
If it's if it's saying minus forty, well it thinks
you're in a you know, in Alaska and it's trying
to dump all this fuel in there, and it's not
minus forty here, so it'll cause problems, or it's the
way around. It thinks it's one hundred degrees and it's
actually colder here and also causes problems.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Okay, all right, those are all great ideas.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Sure try that, Mike, give us call. Let's know how
it turned out.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Okay, thank you. Have a good day, sir.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
You bet appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, we're gonna take quick breaking of mister Mechanic and
we'll come back and get some more calls going.
Speaker 8 (10:23):
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Speaker 4 (10:42):
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Speaker 3 (12:07):
John's got a ninety five tourist, John, what's up today?
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. This car has
been sitting for a long time and we just got
it going. It's only got one hundred and thirty five
thousand miles on it. We did it, tune up on it.
One thing, and we took off the original plug wires.
They said, nineteen ninety four motorcraft. But the problem I'm
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having is very intermittent, but it keeps doing it. There's
no tech engine light. The only light that's on his
door at jar and that's it seems to be a
symptom with these older tauruses. The problem I'm having is
every once in a while, you're at a stop light,
and it's about twice a month. I'd say you come
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to stop, the car's island find and he'll just die.
Pop it in part, start right back up and drive
again a couple of weeks till that might happen again
pretty much. The only variable I have now, The only
problem that I know of is that there's a a
where you fill up the gas. One of the tubes
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going down to the tank is rubber, and this neighbors
squirrels have chewed a small hole in there, And as
long as I don't fill it up, I don't seem
to have a problem with gas problems. But it's something
we found out just after we recently got it going
that needs to be replaced. But other than that, there's
no check engine lights. The car runs fantastic. Everything works.
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I did pull a fuse so it doesn't drain the
battery because of this uh door a jar light thing.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Okay, well I would worry about the gas. I wouldn't
worry about the gas tank.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yeah, that's not going to make it die.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You probably don't want a full tank of gas in
that anyway, just in case. It HEAs the salvad yard.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
So yeah, so, uh, it's happening at a stop sign.
So let's look at our idol circuit. Are the throttle
plates clean? Have you gone in there clean the throttle
body out? Really good?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Is this?
Speaker 7 (14:13):
I haven't done anything. I haven't done anything. I had
to hire a couple of guys. My son's he's a
motorcycle mechanic, but he's got a couple of drag racing
buddies that can take apart and put together anything. And uh,
they put it all back together for me because I,
like I said, I had a medical issue where I
had been working on it and getting it ready to go,
and they put it all back together with me. And
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I never know, I've never checked the throttle body.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Is it four cylinder or six cylinder?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
It's a three point eight, Okay, it's a it's an SC.
It's loaded model. It's the next only it's almost like
an SHO only the three eight and the SHOMST be different.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Well, if I recall, Kyle, those were kind of common
for like you said, the idol circuit, the throttle body
is being dirty, and then they were very common because
that yeah, yeah, that's a long time ago. I mean,
you're you're pulling the archives out here. But they were
common for throttle body sensors and also they were common
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for cooling temperature sensors kind of causing problems. But that's
not going to be your I'm just kind of going.
But the throttle body sensor tps as they called it
back then, were very common to go bad. So what
I would probably do is so let it sit there
in idle and warm up a little bit, get some
heat into the engine, and maybe very gently tap that
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that sensor with like the end of a wrench or
something like that, and if it's got a bad connection
in there or solder joints or something, it'll just boo
die and then all of.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
A sudden they come back up.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
One other question about it, the only other issue I have.
And I drive this car quite a bit and I
go out of town with it, and I use the
cruise and everything, but it's like yesterday's a great example.
I drove out to my fiance's house, which is twenty
five miles away, came back at ten o'clock last night.
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When I come back always and I try to use
the the cruise, it won't work first thing, especially at night,
but then every other time I use it it works great.
And I just was wondering, is there any part of
that that's related to that sensor, like you're saying too.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Maybe no, probably not.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
No.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yeah, I'm going in to get the gas check gun
fixed and I'll have him check that idol.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Sure, Yeah, that makes sense to me.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Back in that particular era, whether it was car or truck,
for just had a lot of problems with sensors back
in that day. Yeah, and a lot of times when
it was an intermittent, like I say, tapping on a
sensor just a little bit. It's it's an electronic item.
So it's no different than TV quitting or the toaster quitting.
It's just you have to catch the right spot and
then it kind of goes away. That's why I say,
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kind of tap on it otherwise cleaning those throttle by
and waiting for it to get just a little bit
worse so that you can get a handle on where
it's at.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
I did run some forty four K through it before
we started driving it, just to clean out everything I could.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
That's not gonna hurt anything at all. That's going to
help it a lot.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Yeah. Yeah, cool. Hey, thanks you guys, appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
You bet, John appreciate the call. We're gonna head over
to John. Excuse me, Todd. Todd's got a fifteen pathfinder, Todd,
what's up today?
Speaker 11 (17:33):
Yeah, I'm looking at buying a twenty fifteen Pathfinder that
has one hundred and sixty five thousand miles on it,
and I was looking on the internet and they apparently
have a lot of problems with that CBT transmission. Wondering
the guy said that it was replaced at around fifty thousand,
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and a couple people have told me that once they've
been replaced, they don't seem to have problems. Just wondering
if that is what you guys have experienced.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Well, that could be true.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, most of the time that we replace those, they
go anywhere from about and their brand new units. You
don't really get a rebuilt because nobody can rebuild them,
so you everybody gets a brand new unit. Have they
fixed the problem that causes all that that issue for
it to go bad? Well, I probably, honestly say, we
don't know. And the reason we don't know because they
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replace it anywhere from about seventy five to one hundred
and a quarter and by the time you put a
new transmission in, there's never another one hundred thousand miles
in that car, so we never see it the second
time around. So we replace a lot of those transmissions,
But no, I've never really had one come back with
another one that has another seventy eighty or one hundred
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thousand miles on it, if that If that makes sense, So.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Yeah, if it was.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
A Todd I could probably answer that question a whole
lot better because they last a lot longer. We don't generally,
it's not one car. If you were my relative and
ask me the same question, I'd tell you go go
keep looking, find a different car.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Okay, that that would be my answer. We would be
done in shortened the conversation to be over.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
So Nissans have their own set of problems. Yeah, they're
not cheap problems either. There's a lot of issues we
see all across the board with Nissan, and I mean
huge failures, engine failures, transmission failures.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well not just transmission right right, And and the part
of the problem is is that when you replace a
CVT the car gets one hundred and some one thousand
miles on the value has dropped so far, and then
when you put a five to seven to eight thousand
dollars transmission in, it's never recouping. You never recoup it,
and people just dump it and go and move on
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to something else. That's why there's not a lot of
data on the other side of the question that you're asking.
So okay, I I hate to tell you that, Todd,
but that's that's the reality of it.
Speaker 11 (20:16):
We'll do that some two on them.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
All right, you bet appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
All Right, we're gonna take a quick breaking mister mechanics
show five, five, eight, eleven, tens and numbers to get in.
We'll be back in a minute. Doug's been patiently waiting.
Thanks Doug. You got a twenty four Hondi Sonata. Doug,
what's up today?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Well?
Speaker 10 (20:34):
Thanks, take my call. I'm a long time listener, a
big fan of the show.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 10 (20:38):
My person is this. I was told in this car
you cannot just jump it like you would cars in
days on pass. Is that true or false?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well, well, you know, twenty twenty four we really not
had that kind of problem. Well, when we say jump it,
I don't recommend car to car jumpstart. No, I don't
recommend car to card jump starts. With the jumper cables,
they're always got bad connections. Everybody's in a hurry, so
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they're trying to jump it immediately and get it going.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
That way.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
What you need to do if you're gonna do it
that way, and sometimes you have to is let it charge.
Let the good car charge the bad battery. Let it
charge for five minutes, get get something in the battery,
get it past, get it past the low voltage stage,
and then try to crank it. Now, if you've got
these new lithium ion battery packs like we have, and
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then you put it onto the supercharge, then when you
hook up to them and then you put that on there,
that gives that cart. Yeah, it's a defibrillator exactly. It's
it's got full power for everything right now. So it
is it is taking over for that dead battery. And
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we really not had as long as you know, we
wiggled the cables real good, make sure we got good
connections before we before we do this. And actually these
these jump packs that we have now will tell you
if you have good connections. You don't know if you
have a good connection on jumper cables. So when we
do this, we never have really had a problem blowing
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fuses or causing any other problem beyond that.
Speaker 10 (22:24):
See, I don't have a jumper pack. But the reason
I asked is from the manual and from what someone
else has told me said, oh you want to do
this that really can't jump a cars, Well it's more dangerous.
What you're telling me is you better do predamn careful.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Or not do it at all.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Well, you have to.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
There's a lot of warnings on everything nowadays because common
sense doesn't doesn't come into play for a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So it just doesn't.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean it's you've seen the labels on bags that
say don't eat this. Well, we we should all know that.
But no, as long as you we've never really had
a problem, and we've still we've already jumped start some
twenty fours. As long as you put them jump packs
on there and you make sure you got good connections,
we have not had a problem. And they're actually getting
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cheaper and cheaper, so you can get a smaller one
that's about one hundred and.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Twenty five bucks.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
It you know, it's a light, it's a jump pack,
it's a it's a charger for your cell phone if
you run out of that. You know, it's great for
having something in a car. You just leave it plugged
in the battery just you know, just sits there and charges.
So no, I wouldn't think you'd have a problem with that.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
Okay, thank you appreciate.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
It, you bet, and you know, appreciate the call, Doug.
You know, there's a lot of electronics out there, and
like any electronics, you don't really want to shock them.
Like you were saying, it's kind of a defibrillator, but
in the same token, you want to get voltage up
and stable. And then once you get it up and
stable from a jump pack, then okay, now the computer says, okay,
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now I'm alive, I know kind of what I'm doing,
and then it cranks from there and everything seems to
be fine.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
The one car that always has issues jump starting is Fiat.
Every Fiat. I mean, we've had so many of them
towed in with just a dead battery and then somebody
goes to jump start it. It'll always blow the transmission fuse.
And when it blows the transmission fuse, it doesn't know
if it's in park, it won't crank, so essentially you've
gone backwards and then you think you got a bigger problem,
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and we tow it in and the first time I
saw it, I was in a hurry. You know, it
was the end of the day and here's his Fiat.
It doesn't crank. It was like, oh great. I go
out there and I plug into it and I was like, well,
I won't the transmission communicate. We went from possibly a
starter to now this thing doesn't talk at all. Days
getting better. Yeah, And I checked that fuse and I
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was like, are you kidding me? And I saw it again.
Then I saw it again, and I saw it like
dozens of them. Yeah, get towed in and every time
you try to jump start, and whether you use a
battery pack or another car, they always that fuse for
some reason.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I haven't figured it out.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
First one, I tested every circuit on the thing.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Absolutely, and we've seen yeah, we've seen Dodge rams the
minivans too. If you run those dead, it loses all
its memory. And not only does it and so you
have to reboot everything.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
I mean it used to just be because remember like
the twenty like thirteen to fifteen rams, you disconnect the
battery and it'd smoked the door module. Yeah, you couldn't
roll the windows up, the locks wouldn't work. The first
time we figured that out, I was like, well, this sucks.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Why did we wire it that way, and maybe that's
just that was the way it was wired from the factory,
but you have to get It's almost like it just
lost its entire brains and you have to download it
from Mike factory.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I have found that in the scan tools. Every Dodge
car now has a battery change mode. And you go
in with your scanner. You know it's going to take
a very capable scanner. But you go in there and
you hit battery change mode, shuts everything off.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah, so it's shocking the system.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Yeah, and then you go and do your work and
then you go back in, you take it out of
change mode and you're good.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Hmm. I saw it.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I was like, what is this for? I hit it
and nothing more as I cool, just smoke this car.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, and it just gets more and more complicated. You know.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
It's back in the day when we used to have
to when they first come out, Jaguar had to come
out with you know, change Once you change the battery,
you had to relearn the battery.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, mas BMW as well.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, and it makes sense why you're doing it because
you've got an old battery in there and the aldinator's
charging a certain amount to put electricity back in there
to make it work. And now you've got a brand
new battery. It doesn't need that. It only needs a
minimal amount of charge in order to put A five
year old battery needs a maximum amount of charge to
keep going.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
So it seems like kind of an odd system that
we need. I mean, yeah, the system, I mean itself.
It is just essentially working like any other charging system.
But why do we have to tell it what to do?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Well?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
That all switched over when we use the U A
GM batteries. Yeah, and boy, when an AGM battery goes bad,
it's dead. It's not like your old batteries where hey
that thing was cranking slow last week.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Well, okay, just tip it upside down in the yard
and then pour some water in it and charge it
back up.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
We're good for another year.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
That's where you get your recycled batteries. They tip them
upside down, drain everything out, get all the the flakes
off the bottom, and flush amount and put you and
call a day. Charge that baby back up. You're ready
to go. You know it's not gonna last all that long,
but that's kind of why you know it is what
itway it is. It is what it is, and you
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need at that time what you need. You know, it's
it's not brand new, that's for sure, but it's just yeah,
there's a lot of things that that we should have
in a car, and there's other things that it's like,
we don't need that anymore. And you like, like the
cigarette lighters and the ash trees went away. Yeah, because
every every commercial from the fifties and sixties had somebody
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smoking somewhere everywhere.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Oh yeah, I don't care where it was. I had
to smoke.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yeah, the kids are playing at the daycare.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah, it was the rules. You're sixteen, here's your cigarette.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Pretty much. All right, we're gonna head over to David.
David's got an eighteen Honda Odyssey. David, what's up today.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
We would go someplace and stop, for example, going out
to off it to the pharmacy, and I would go
in to get the prescription, and my wife, who was driving,
would sit there without anything on that she knew of,
and I'd come back to the pharmacy. Takes a while,
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and battery'd be dead. We had that twice, and the
second time the guy said, why in the world or
your headlights on? And so we would hold it. She
had to open the door and close it. Otherwise the
auxiliary or something remain. So we've been careful about that,
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but it still happened. This has had three more instances.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Okay, so so she you're going in to get what
you need and then she's just sitting in the car
obviously with the with the car off and maybe the
radio on or the heater on.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Orth We we learned, you know, don't have the radio on.
And the last time it was me and I tried
listening to the radio for a few minutes and it
just didn't seem to want to cooperate, so I just
turned it off.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
How holds a battery on this? How holds a battery
on this? David?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I don't know how old it is, but the first
time we went to Interstate and the guy checked it
and he said, well, I'd love to sell you a battery,
but he said, there's nothing wrong with your battery. It's
just been discharged.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
M Well, let's just say that it's not the original battery.
And I'm going to say it's not the original battery.
My guess is that is it's the second battery, and
the second battery has very low reserve capacity in it.
That's why when you sit there with the radio on,
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just the radio on and maybe the headlights, it runs
it dead. So you've got and then when you test
the battery, by the time you get it jump started,
because I'm assuming that's what you're doing is jump starting it,
by the time they.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Tried doing it with the battery pack. You know that
the various people carry like trifoy, and it didn't have
enough homes. You get it going okay, and the guy
actually had to jump it from his vehicle.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Sounds like a dead shorted battery.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
To me, that's what it sounds like. Sounds like a
dead shorted battery. And then when you jump started it,
the negative and positive place come apart. Everything's fine, and
then you go back together. So if you're just sitting
there for five ten minutes in a battery and you're
just running the radio and that's it, you've got a
battery that's bad. The reserve capacity in that battery is
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not very good at all. You could jump start it
and keep going, and it's it's on the edges, it's
this is my car. I'm putting a different battery in it.
And then when I'm having them put a battery in it.
I'm also checking the starter draw on this particular car,
because Hantas are really good for starters and they'll draw
high amps. So I'm also checking that at the same time.
But you need a battery.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Okay, even though the you know, the guy checked.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
The charge, why did discharge?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well that's the issue, yep, I.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Can tell you to twenty eighteen. It's it's already had
one battery in it, for sure, your second one's going bad.
Time to do it. The been there, done that probably
about five thousand times. Go get another battery, David I
seen this week. Interesting enough, the Ford CEO put out
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about the EV's, the big EV's, the you know, the
the trucks and all that kind of stuff. He called
that an unsolvable problem. It's just with the amount of
what Americans want to do, and with a vehicle toe,
you know, go on vacation, toe a trailer, it's just
(32:34):
an unsolvable problem to be able to have that vehicle
do what they wanted to do. It's kind of an
interesting quote. Without and there are some vehicles out there,
some manufacturers that have evs that have a little gas
engine in them. And that gas engine is charging the
EV battery and it just goes. You just got to
(32:55):
be prepared for what not. So much is out there
in the world for you to get. It's it's is
it gonna work for the application that you got. We
always recommend people when they buy cars, you know, buy
a car for what you're gonna use it for eighty
percent of the time. So don't go buy a big
SUV if you only need it, you know, ten percent
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of the time, because it's just not gonna work for you.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah, get a smaller car in a trailer.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly if you were going to use
it every once in a great while, Buy a trailer
and buy a little less uv, you know, I mean,
you know, you just don't need that all that. Let
the trailer rot, don't let the car, you know, do
what you need to do. I think we got the
Lincoln swapmeat coming up, you know, the old Rocky Man
Jelly coming up in a few weeks.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
That's always such a fun time.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Yeah, Like Kyle's out there in all kinds of weather.
You don't know what's gonna happen until you show up.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Like the postman, you know, rain slate and snow. We've
been out there. You got to get your people watching glasses.
There's always, like Kyle, there's always such great people watching
out there. So you got to see that because.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
You never know what I mean, last year was nice.
I mean I remember just having a light sweater on.
I mean there's other day other years that you know,
you're down there in a foot of snow and you
got the Carhart mafia running up on your flashlights at
four in the morning.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, you don't know what's happening, but it's you know,
it's the middle of winter. We got to get out
Beat Bob. He's a four time tire rotation champion. When
he was a baby, his first words were automatic transmission fluid.
Bob's so cool he has engine coolant running through his veins.
And then there's Kyle, also realn as Premium Unleaded. Legend
has it that Kyle can change your oil with his
(00:21):
toes and that he can tell your tires all pressure
just by how you're walking.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He's Bob, He's.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Kyle, and every Saturday morning they morphed together to form
the greatest superhero known to man, Mister Mechanic check Engine
light Stone, stand a chance. This is the Mister Mechanic
Show on eleven ten, Kfab.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Great Saturday morning to you. This is a mister Mechanic show.
Five five, eight, eleven ten is the numbers to get in.
Get in early so we can answer your questions and
get you back to the park store.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
We are.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
You can in service centers at fiftieth in Dodge, eightieth
and Dodge and guaranteed Breaks forty ninth Avenue and Dodge.
Stop in and see us and get you back on
the road. Joined as always by Kyle. Good morning Kyle. Yeah,
nice cold brisk morning out that you know, winter's coming
and going and coming and going. I see some snow
(01:17):
in the forecasts.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
We had our first almost spring this past week. I yeah,
it was pretty nice.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I didn't have a jacket on for at least two days.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And we had a salt shower from the uh Man,
and you know, we kind of needed. I'm kind of
down on all the salt that goes on the ground,
but you know that that last little ice storm was
kind of hairy. Yeah, we had a couple of them
this year. We'll see if we hold out and maybe
get a little bit of snow.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
It was supposed to freezing rain last night. I think
I heard on the way home. And then I woke
up this morning. I was like, well that lasted a
long time. A good deal.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, you know, we're not getting any and we need
the moist year, you know, we just we just do.
And Florida doesn't need it. They got water all over
the place and they're getting snow.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah. Isn't that wild?
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It is kind of wild.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
I think Douglas County is like the only county within
what two thousand miles of ourselves in any direction that
has had zero snow. Oh really, Yeah. I saw this
figure the other day. I was like, that's ironic.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I'm sure there's some sort of atmospheric bubble that we
don't know about, some sort of meat role like.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
The Truman Show.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, yeah, I mean we have. Yeah, we have more
terms now than we ever knew that we had in
the past, and which is fine. We got to name
them so we know what to talk about when well,
yeah that comes about. Yeah, otherwise we wouldn't have anything
to talk about. Yeah, we wouldn't be interesting if we
didn't name cars. Yeah, and just said there's the green one,
(02:43):
there's a blue one. We have to name them so
we know what we got so we don't have to
fight in the parking lot.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I mean if they were all the same, I mean,
that wouldn't be any fun.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I can you imagine living in a Russia and they're
all the same car and they all they're all black,
kind of like the Henry Ford deal back in the
day with the Model T. So maybe that's why the
license came out. You know, I don't know how would you.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Find your car?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah, you just take whichever won. Yeah, well, last guy and.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Are in a car for you? I just guess you're walking.
It's kind of like a military thing.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Did you just get in and go because there is
no keys. All right, we're going to head into the calls.
Twenty seventeen Chevy Cruise, Mike, what's up today?
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Yeah, good morning, Thanks for taking my call. It's as
you said, a twenty seventeen Chevy Cruise. Got the one
point four liter four cylinder, and it will crank but
won't start. And historically it would give me a check
engine and I would check it and it would tell
me cylinder one and three were misfiring, and so I
(03:45):
had never done anything with it. I just reset the
code and it would go back to run and fine.
And then when it wouldn't start, I thought, well, I'll
replace the coil and the plug. So I did that,
and still just cranks but no art, and I thought, well,
maybe I got a fuel problem. So I put my
code reader on there, and when it's cranking, it's cranking
(04:08):
at like two hundred and seventy seven RPMs, and it's
got thirteen hundred pounds of fuel pressure at the rail
and then sixty pounds, it says, So I assume the
sixty is what's coming from the electric fuel pump, and
I'm just, you know, struggling with what are my next
steps here? It doesn't seem to be firing.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Okay, so we know you've got engine speed on your monitor,
so we know our crank sensors at least picking up
that we have the correct fuel pressure. So what we
need to look at is does this car actually have spark?
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Car?
Speaker 6 (04:51):
When the thing that I did before the fuel pressure
is I pulled the number one coil off of the
plug and I put one of the old plugs in there,
and I held it up against the valve cover and
had my wife crank it, and it had good spark.
I don't know the timing of it, you know, but
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but there was a solid spark when I tried that.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Okay, so we've got fuel, we've got spark. We can
assume we have air.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yep, got air, fuel and spark. So it sounds like
we've got that.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
How did your plugs look? Were they really wet?
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I didn't notice anything about them when I pulled them out.
They didn't look black or dirty or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
There was no residue moisture or anything like that on no. Okay,
so we need to see if we're actually getting fuel
to the cylinder. Can we spray some carburetor cleaner and
the intake? Will it start?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Then?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I did not go to the intake. What I tried
to do is I took some starter fluid and I
sprayed it into the inlet of the turbo and I
thought I sprayed a lot in there and cranked it,
but it just doesn't quite go. Yeah, but I'm if
there's a better smarter.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Way, we always open go directly to the intake and
on that car, I mean, it can be a little
bit tough, but I mean you can pull off the
hose going to your throttle body. I mean that one's
a little bit tougher and spray them in there, or
you know, go to pop pop off the hose for
your break booster and sprace them in there. That's a
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little bit easier.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, so we know we've got air fuel spark. Now
we've got to head towards injector pulse. We've got to
make sure that it's actually pulsing and trying to the
computer's trying to pulse it.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
And that's going to be kind of difficult. On that
direct injected car. You're not going to want to just
plug anoid light into that because you're gonna pop.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It, Let's check compression first before we go there. So okay,
because if we got compression that is great, then maybe
we're looking for an injector pulse. But if we got
compression that's low, then maybe we've got a timing that's
problem and it's jumped, and that's kind of why you're
not you're not cranking over, not starting. Did it make
(07:18):
any noise when you shut it off or shut off?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Normal? Just come back out and it just wouldn't go.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
Yeah, you know, we came home nothing abnormal, went to
start it and it won't go, and no check engine light.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Okay, Well, and it's just.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
You know, and if you spray, like what Kyle is
trying to do is get you the spray, a little
bit of carbretor cleaner in there, the fires off. We know,
everything else is good and we're missing you know, fuel,
fuel and the other the quick easy things that you
can do or that you haven't done yet is let's
do a compression test.
Speaker 6 (07:58):
You know, Okay, I can do that.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Okay, Let's also maybe have somebody crank it over while
you're see what the compression test, says first, and if
that's fine, then maybe bang on the gas tank and
while somebody's cranking it and see if it pops off
that way. You know, the next thing after that would
be injector pulse, and then you're you're down to timing
and exhaust. That's that's true.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
What's banging on the fuel tank gonna do? If I
already have sixty pounds in that telling me that the
electric pump is working, well, it tells you.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
That it's building pressure.
Speaker 7 (08:30):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:30):
We don't know the volume of this.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Pump, right, okay, so not enough flow right.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
And sometimes shocking it puts it back into and and
we've started Minia cars that the fuel pump's bad and
started it that way. You just shock it and it goes.
We know the fuel pumps bad and it needs to
be replaced.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
So okay, yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Got a couple more a couple more things we got
to get before you get there.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
But start with your compression check on that minute that engine.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
Yep, okay, so I'll knock that out. What how do
I check the injector pulsing.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Well on that particular car with direct injected since well,
I mean you've got a scanner there that I mean
apparently gives you some kind of data. So I mean
you can look through there that there might be a
PID depending on the capability of this scanner you have,
that'll say injector pulse with something like.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That, and that tells you if it's coming, that tells
you if it's coming open or closed.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
That'll tell you that your computer is commanding this amount
of pulse out of your injectors.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
Yep, all right, I got a I got a blue driver.
I don't know if it you know, if it can.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Do that or not.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
No, No.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
The other thing I would look at is your coolant
temperature sensor. See what that guy's saying.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
If it's if it's saying minus forty, well it thinks
you're in a you know, in Alaska and it's trying
to dump all this fuel in there, and it's not
minus forty here, so it'll cause problems, or it's the
way around. It thinks it's one hundred degrees and it's
actually colder here and also causes problems.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Okay, all right, those are all great ideas.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Sure try that, Mike, give us call. Let's know how
it turned out.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Okay, thank you. Have a good day, sir.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
You bet appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, we're gonna take quick breaking of mister Mechanic and
we'll come back and get some more calls going.
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Speaker 3 (12:07):
John's got a ninety five tourist, John, what's up today?
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. This car has
been sitting for a long time and we just got
it going. It's only got one hundred and thirty five
thousand miles on it. We did it, tune up on it.
One thing, and we took off the original plug wires.
They said, nineteen ninety four motorcraft. But the problem I'm
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having is very intermittent, but it keeps doing it. There's
no tech engine light. The only light that's on his
door at jar and that's it seems to be a
symptom with these older tauruses. The problem I'm having is
every once in a while, you're at a stop light,
and it's about twice a month. I'd say you come
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to stop, the car's island find and he'll just die.
Pop it in part, start right back up and drive
again a couple of weeks till that might happen again
pretty much. The only variable I have now, The only
problem that I know of is that there's a a
where you fill up the gas. One of the tubes
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going down to the tank is rubber, and this neighbors
squirrels have chewed a small hole in there, And as
long as I don't fill it up, I don't seem
to have a problem with gas problems. But it's something
we found out just after we recently got it going
that needs to be replaced. But other than that, there's
no check engine lights. The car runs fantastic. Everything works.
(13:37):
I did pull a fuse so it doesn't drain the
battery because of this uh door a jar light thing.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Okay, well I would worry about the gas. I wouldn't
worry about the gas tank.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
Yeah, that's not going to make it die.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
You probably don't want a full tank of gas in
that anyway, just in case. It HEAs the salvad yard.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
So yeah, so, uh, it's happening at a stop sign.
So let's look at our idol circuit. Are the throttle
plates clean? Have you gone in there clean the throttle
body out? Really good?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Is this?
Speaker 7 (14:13):
I haven't done anything. I haven't done anything. I had
to hire a couple of guys. My son's he's a
motorcycle mechanic, but he's got a couple of drag racing
buddies that can take apart and put together anything. And uh,
they put it all back together for me because I,
like I said, I had a medical issue where I
had been working on it and getting it ready to go,
and they put it all back together with me. And
(14:34):
I never know, I've never checked the throttle body.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Is it four cylinder or six cylinder?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
It's a three point eight, Okay, it's a it's an SC.
It's loaded model. It's the next only it's almost like
an SHO only the three eight and the SHOMST be different.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Well, if I recall, Kyle, those were kind of common
for like you said, the idol circuit, the throttle body
is being dirty, and then they were very common because
that yeah, yeah, that's a long time ago. I mean,
you're you're pulling the archives out here. But they were
common for throttle body sensors and also they were common
(15:13):
for cooling temperature sensors kind of causing problems. But that's
not going to be your I'm just kind of going.
But the throttle body sensor tps as they called it
back then, were very common to go bad. So what
I would probably do is so let it sit there
in idle and warm up a little bit, get some
heat into the engine, and maybe very gently tap that
(15:36):
that sensor with like the end of a wrench or
something like that, and if it's got a bad connection
in there or solder joints or something, it'll just boo
die and then all of.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
A sudden they come back up.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
One other question about it, the only other issue I have.
And I drive this car quite a bit and I
go out of town with it, and I use the
cruise and everything, but it's like yesterday's a great example.
I drove out to my fiance's house, which is twenty
five miles away, came back at ten o'clock last night.
(16:10):
When I come back always and I try to use
the the cruise, it won't work first thing, especially at night,
but then every other time I use it it works great.
And I just was wondering, is there any part of
that that's related to that sensor, like you're saying too.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Maybe no, probably not.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
No.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yeah, I'm going in to get the gas check gun
fixed and I'll have him check that idol.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Sure, Yeah, that makes sense to me.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Back in that particular era, whether it was car or truck,
for just had a lot of problems with sensors back
in that day. Yeah, and a lot of times when
it was an intermittent, like I say, tapping on a
sensor just a little bit. It's it's an electronic item.
So it's no different than TV quitting or the toaster quitting.
It's just you have to catch the right spot and
then it kind of goes away. That's why I say,
(17:03):
kind of tap on it otherwise cleaning those throttle by
and waiting for it to get just a little bit
worse so that you can get a handle on where
it's at.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
I did run some forty four K through it before
we started driving it, just to clean out everything I could.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
That's not gonna hurt anything at all. That's going to
help it a lot.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Yeah. Yeah, cool. Hey, thanks you guys, appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
You bet, John appreciate the call. We're gonna head over
to John. Excuse me, Todd. Todd's got a fifteen pathfinder, Todd,
what's up today?
Speaker 11 (17:33):
Yeah, I'm looking at buying a twenty fifteen Pathfinder that
has one hundred and sixty five thousand miles on it,
and I was looking on the internet and they apparently
have a lot of problems with that CBT transmission. Wondering
the guy said that it was replaced at around fifty thousand,
(17:55):
and a couple people have told me that once they've
been replaced, they don't seem to have problems. Just wondering
if that is what you guys have experienced.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Well, that could be true.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Yeah, most of the time that we replace those, they
go anywhere from about and their brand new units. You
don't really get a rebuilt because nobody can rebuild them,
so you everybody gets a brand new unit. Have they
fixed the problem that causes all that that issue for
it to go bad? Well, I probably, honestly say, we
don't know. And the reason we don't know because they
(18:29):
replace it anywhere from about seventy five to one hundred
and a quarter and by the time you put a
new transmission in, there's never another one hundred thousand miles
in that car, so we never see it the second
time around. So we replace a lot of those transmissions,
But no, I've never really had one come back with
another one that has another seventy eighty or one hundred
(18:52):
thousand miles on it, if that If that makes sense, So.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Yeah, if it was.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
A Todd I could probably answer that question a whole
lot better because they last a lot longer. We don't generally,
it's not one car. If you were my relative and
ask me the same question, I'd tell you go go
keep looking, find a different car.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Okay, that that would be my answer. We would be
done in shortened the conversation to be over.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
So Nissans have their own set of problems. Yeah, they're
not cheap problems either. There's a lot of issues we
see all across the board with Nissan, and I mean
huge failures, engine failures, transmission failures.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well not just transmission right right, And and the part
of the problem is is that when you replace a
CVT the car gets one hundred and some one thousand
miles on the value has dropped so far, and then
when you put a five to seven to eight thousand
dollars transmission in, it's never recouping. You never recoup it,
and people just dump it and go and move on
(20:02):
to something else. That's why there's not a lot of
data on the other side of the question that you're asking.
So okay, I I hate to tell you that, Todd,
but that's that's the reality of it.
Speaker 11 (20:16):
We'll do that some two on them.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
All right, you bet appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
All Right, we're gonna take a quick breaking mister mechanics
show five, five, eight, eleven, tens and numbers to get in.
We'll be back in a minute. Doug's been patiently waiting.
Thanks Doug. You got a twenty four Hondi Sonata. Doug,
what's up today?
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Well?
Speaker 10 (20:34):
Thanks, take my call. I'm a long time listener, a
big fan of the show.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 10 (20:38):
My person is this. I was told in this car
you cannot just jump it like you would cars in
days on pass. Is that true or false?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well, well, you know, twenty twenty four we really not
had that kind of problem. Well, when we say jump it,
I don't recommend car to car jumpstart. No, I don't
recommend car to card jump starts. With the jumper cables,
they're always got bad connections. Everybody's in a hurry, so
(21:12):
they're trying to jump it immediately and get it going.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
That way.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
What you need to do if you're gonna do it
that way, and sometimes you have to is let it charge.
Let the good car charge the bad battery. Let it
charge for five minutes, get get something in the battery,
get it past, get it past the low voltage stage,
and then try to crank it. Now, if you've got
these new lithium ion battery packs like we have, and
(21:37):
then you put it onto the supercharge, then when you
hook up to them and then you put that on there,
that gives that cart. Yeah, it's a defibrillator exactly. It's
it's got full power for everything right now. So it
is it is taking over for that dead battery. And
(21:57):
we really not had as long as you know, we
wiggled the cables real good, make sure we got good
connections before we before we do this. And actually these
these jump packs that we have now will tell you
if you have good connections. You don't know if you
have a good connection on jumper cables. So when we
do this, we never have really had a problem blowing
(22:19):
fuses or causing any other problem beyond that.
Speaker 10 (22:24):
See, I don't have a jumper pack. But the reason
I asked is from the manual and from what someone
else has told me said, oh you want to do
this that really can't jump a cars, Well it's more dangerous.
What you're telling me is you better do predamn careful.
Speaker 6 (22:36):
Or not do it at all.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Well, you have to.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
There's a lot of warnings on everything nowadays because common
sense doesn't doesn't come into play for a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So it just doesn't.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean it's you've seen the labels on bags that
say don't eat this. Well, we we should all know that.
But no, as long as you we've never really had
a problem, and we've still we've already jumped start some
twenty fours. As long as you put them jump packs
on there and you make sure you got good connections,
we have not had a problem. And they're actually getting
(23:12):
cheaper and cheaper, so you can get a smaller one
that's about one hundred and.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Twenty five bucks.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
It you know, it's a light, it's a jump pack,
it's a it's a charger for your cell phone if
you run out of that. You know, it's great for
having something in a car. You just leave it plugged
in the battery just you know, just sits there and charges.
So no, I wouldn't think you'd have a problem with that.
Speaker 10 (23:35):
Okay, thank you appreciate.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
It, you bet, and you know, appreciate the call, Doug.
You know, there's a lot of electronics out there, and
like any electronics, you don't really want to shock them.
Like you were saying, it's kind of a defibrillator, but
in the same token, you want to get voltage up
and stable. And then once you get it up and
stable from a jump pack, then okay, now the computer says, okay,
(23:58):
now I'm alive, I know kind of what I'm doing,
and then it cranks from there and everything seems to
be fine.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
The one car that always has issues jump starting is Fiat.
Every Fiat. I mean, we've had so many of them
towed in with just a dead battery and then somebody
goes to jump start it. It'll always blow the transmission fuse.
And when it blows the transmission fuse, it doesn't know
if it's in park, it won't crank, so essentially you've
gone backwards and then you think you got a bigger problem,
(24:26):
and we tow it in and the first time I
saw it, I was in a hurry. You know, it
was the end of the day and here's his Fiat.
It doesn't crank. It was like, oh great. I go
out there and I plug into it and I was like, well,
I won't the transmission communicate. We went from possibly a
starter to now this thing doesn't talk at all. Days
getting better. Yeah, And I checked that fuse and I
(24:47):
was like, are you kidding me? And I saw it again.
Then I saw it again, and I saw it like
dozens of them. Yeah, get towed in and every time
you try to jump start, and whether you use a
battery pack or another car, they always that fuse for
some reason.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I haven't figured it out.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
First one, I tested every circuit on the thing.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Absolutely, and we've seen yeah, we've seen Dodge rams the
minivans too. If you run those dead, it loses all
its memory. And not only does it and so you
have to reboot everything.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
I mean it used to just be because remember like
the twenty like thirteen to fifteen rams, you disconnect the
battery and it'd smoked the door module. Yeah, you couldn't
roll the windows up, the locks wouldn't work. The first
time we figured that out, I was like, well, this sucks.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Why did we wire it that way, and maybe that's
just that was the way it was wired from the factory,
but you have to get It's almost like it just
lost its entire brains and you have to download it
from Mike factory.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
I have found that in the scan tools. Every Dodge
car now has a battery change mode. And you go
in with your scanner. You know it's going to take
a very capable scanner. But you go in there and
you hit battery change mode, shuts everything off.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah, so it's shocking the system.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Yeah, and then you go and do your work and
then you go back in, you take it out of
change mode and you're good.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Hmm. I saw it.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
I was like, what is this for? I hit it
and nothing more as I cool, just smoke this car.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Yeah, and it just gets more and more complicated. You know.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
It's back in the day when we used to have
to when they first come out, Jaguar had to come
out with you know, change Once you change the battery,
you had to relearn the battery.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, mas BMW as well.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, and it makes sense why you're doing it because
you've got an old battery in there and the aldinator's
charging a certain amount to put electricity back in there
to make it work. And now you've got a brand
new battery. It doesn't need that. It only needs a
minimal amount of charge in order to put A five
year old battery needs a maximum amount of charge to
keep going.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
So it seems like kind of an odd system that
we need. I mean, yeah, the system, I mean itself.
It is just essentially working like any other charging system.
But why do we have to tell it what to do?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Well?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
That all switched over when we use the U A
GM batteries. Yeah, and boy, when an AGM battery goes bad,
it's dead. It's not like your old batteries where hey
that thing was cranking slow last week.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Well, okay, just tip it upside down in the yard
and then pour some water in it and charge it
back up.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
We're good for another year.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
That's where you get your recycled batteries. They tip them
upside down, drain everything out, get all the the flakes
off the bottom, and flush amount and put you and
call a day. Charge that baby back up. You're ready
to go. You know it's not gonna last all that long,
but that's kind of why you know it is what
itway it is. It is what it is, and you
(27:49):
need at that time what you need. You know, it's
it's not brand new, that's for sure, but it's just yeah,
there's a lot of things that that we should have
in a car, and there's other things that it's like,
we don't need that anymore. And you like, like the
cigarette lighters and the ash trees went away. Yeah, because
every every commercial from the fifties and sixties had somebody
(28:11):
smoking somewhere everywhere.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Oh yeah, I don't care where it was. I had
to smoke.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Yeah, the kids are playing at the daycare.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Yeah, it was the rules. You're sixteen, here's your cigarette.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Pretty much. All right, we're gonna head over to David.
David's got an eighteen Honda Odyssey. David, what's up today.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
We would go someplace and stop, for example, going out
to off it to the pharmacy, and I would go
in to get the prescription, and my wife, who was driving,
would sit there without anything on that she knew of,
and I'd come back to the pharmacy. Takes a while,
(28:53):
and battery'd be dead. We had that twice, and the
second time the guy said, why in the world or
your headlights on? And so we would hold it. She
had to open the door and close it. Otherwise the
auxiliary or something remain. So we've been careful about that,
(29:13):
but it still happened. This has had three more instances.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Okay, so so she you're going in to get what
you need and then she's just sitting in the car
obviously with the with the car off and maybe the
radio on or the heater on.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Orth We we learned, you know, don't have the radio on.
And the last time it was me and I tried
listening to the radio for a few minutes and it
just didn't seem to want to cooperate, so I just
turned it off.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
How holds a battery on this? How holds a battery
on this? David?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I don't know how old it is, but the first
time we went to Interstate and the guy checked it
and he said, well, I'd love to sell you a battery,
but he said, there's nothing wrong with your battery. It's
just been discharged.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
M Well, let's just say that it's not the original battery.
And I'm going to say it's not the original battery.
My guess is that is it's the second battery, and
the second battery has very low reserve capacity in it.
That's why when you sit there with the radio on,
(30:24):
just the radio on and maybe the headlights, it runs
it dead. So you've got and then when you test
the battery, by the time you get it jump started,
because I'm assuming that's what you're doing is jump starting it,
by the time they.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Tried doing it with the battery pack. You know that
the various people carry like trifoy, and it didn't have
enough homes. You get it going okay, and the guy
actually had to jump it from his vehicle.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Sounds like a dead shorted battery.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
To me, that's what it sounds like. Sounds like a
dead shorted battery. And then when you jump started it,
the negative and positive place come apart. Everything's fine, and
then you go back together. So if you're just sitting
there for five ten minutes in a battery and you're
just running the radio and that's it, you've got a
battery that's bad. The reserve capacity in that battery is
(31:18):
not very good at all. You could jump start it
and keep going, and it's it's on the edges, it's
this is my car. I'm putting a different battery in it.
And then when I'm having them put a battery in it.
I'm also checking the starter draw on this particular car,
because Hantas are really good for starters and they'll draw
high amps. So I'm also checking that at the same time.
But you need a battery.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Okay, even though the you know, the guy checked.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
The charge, why did discharge?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well that's the issue, yep, I.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Can tell you to twenty eighteen. It's it's already had
one battery in it, for sure, your second one's going bad.
Time to do it. The been there, done that probably
about five thousand times. Go get another battery, David I
seen this week. Interesting enough, the Ford CEO put out
(32:12):
about the EV's, the big EV's, the you know, the
the trucks and all that kind of stuff. He called
that an unsolvable problem. It's just with the amount of
what Americans want to do, and with a vehicle toe,
you know, go on vacation, toe a trailer, it's just
(32:34):
an unsolvable problem to be able to have that vehicle
do what they wanted to do. It's kind of an
interesting quote. Without and there are some vehicles out there,
some manufacturers that have evs that have a little gas
engine in them. And that gas engine is charging the
EV battery and it just goes. You just got to
(32:55):
be prepared for what not. So much is out there
in the world for you to get. It's it's is
it gonna work for the application that you got. We
always recommend people when they buy cars, you know, buy
a car for what you're gonna use it for eighty
percent of the time. So don't go buy a big
SUV if you only need it, you know, ten percent
(33:17):
of the time, because it's just not gonna work for you.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Yeah, get a smaller car in a trailer.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly if you were going to use
it every once in a great while, Buy a trailer
and buy a little less uv, you know, I mean,
you know, you just don't need that all that. Let
the trailer rot, don't let the car, you know, do
what you need to do. I think we got the
Lincoln swapmeat coming up, you know, the old Rocky Man
Jelly coming up in a few weeks.
Speaker 5 (33:40):
That's always such a fun time.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:42):
Yeah, Like Kyle's out there in all kinds of weather.
You don't know what's gonna happen until you show up.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Like the postman, you know, rain slate and snow. We've
been out there. You got to get your people watching glasses.
There's always, like Kyle, there's always such great people watching
out there. So you got to see that because.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
You never know what I mean, last year was nice.
I mean I remember just having a light sweater on.
I mean there's other day other years that you know,
you're down there in a foot of snow and you
got the Carhart mafia running up on your flashlights at
four in the morning.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Yeah, you don't know what's happening, but it's you know,
it's the middle of winter. We got to get out
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