Mr Mechanic 3-22-2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Meet Bob. He's a four time tire rotation champion. When
he was a baby, his first words were automatic transmission fluid.
Bob's so cool, he has engine coolant running through his veins.
And then there's Kyle, also as Premium Unleaded. Legend has
it that Kyle can change your oil with his toes,

(00:22):
and that he can tell your tires ille pressure just.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
By how you're walking.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
He's Bob, He's Kyle, and every Saturday morning they morphed
together to form the greatest superhero known to man. Mister
mechanic check engine lights, don't stand a chance. This is
the Mister Mechanics Show on eleven ten, kfab.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Great Saturday morning to you. This is a mister Mechanics show.
Four two, five, five, eight, eleven ten is the numbers
to get in Get in early. Sequent answer your questions,
we are Buchanan Service Centers at fiftieth and Dodge, eightieth
and Dodge and Guaranteed Breaks forty ninth Avenue and Dodge.
I'm Bob, joined by Kyle every every Saturday morning. I

(01:07):
guess it is. Yeah, good morning, dirty, good morning. I
guess it is it is. Who would have thought that
we would have had so much dirt get thrown up
into the atmosphere and uh drawn all the way from.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Texas, New Mexico. Yeah, yeah, we got red dirt on
our cars.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah we got we got a little bit of an
article in the newspaper today. People are washing cars like crazy.
Down at the station. We got two service Comedian stores,
service centers, Comedian stores with car washes, and we got
lines going out of those too.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
So the floor in there is it's something else.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
The decat your house, you know, just about everything, you know.
I noticed I ran my car through a little bit
and it gets the outside, but it didn't get all
the other science to kind of get.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Down in there. It's too hard to get out the
pressure washer.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, I get signed that windshoe washer area and all
that kind of stuff too. So it's just kind of
a kind of a mess. One thing I noticed when
I was kind of reading doing some research for this
the show, there was an interesting article about seventy four
percent of people that were pulled about five years ago,
six years ago. We're happy with all of the knobs

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in where everything was in their car, as far as
I'd say knob to screen ratio.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Just the convenience of the options.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, so we've talked about this many times. When they've
gone to the screen, you got to look over take
your eyes off the road, and then you got to say,
I'm hot, I need to turn down the blower motor.
But you can't find it because now you're on the
radio section. So you got to go over here to
do this and do that and everything else. Sure, it
can be a chore. Well, now we're jumping this to
twenty twenty four because that's you know, when the data

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finally comes out. Now we're down to about fifty four percent.
So they've lost twenty five percent in the and all
of that convenience, and they want to go back to knobs.
They you know, if you've ever been in a tesla before,
it's all screen everything.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
There's no button oder, there's no knob, there's no nothing.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
You got a little stick for the you know, get
it in and out of gear, and I mean you
got a windshow wiper stick and that's just about it.
And when we work on one of these and try
to find miles for it, it's it's a task.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I've given up a couple of times because I can't
find what the miles are in this thing. And you
would think when you see that screen, miles would be
something that's always on your mind. How many miles did
I go? What's miles of the service? What's the miles
of this? So the miles should be in the tripo
dometer is pretty much always on a dash somewhere easily

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obtainable for everything, but it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
And the thing about that because I mean, you and
I were in easily sixty different cars a week, and
we got to figure out how each of them work
to make what's not working work. Yes, so some of
these like Porsche give up, and there is so much

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Like I had a Cayenne and I had some kind
of HVAC problem and I'm pushing every button on there.
I got lights coming on a dash, I don't know
what they are. I got all kinds of stuff happening,
and I'm trying to read this monitor that's in some
foreign language to me.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, and that's that's why we got scanners to figure
out some of this out, because a third of the
time to change oil sometimes it's just it's resetting the
light because they make it more difficult than.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, the mechanical end of it takes five ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I've got a couple of cars I give up on.
I just cannot figure it out. Prius is one of
them because every year that they come out, they changed
the oil change.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, they had the trip and then they had that
kilometers per hour button you had to hold, and they
had something totally different. You had to have it on
trip A, you had to have it on odometer.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Well, we've got somebody else that's just just breezes through,
right though. So I just say, hey, get up here
and do this, and get over and do it. Just
boom boom boom. The circle of life, circle of can't
know them all. All right, We're gonna jump right into
the calls. He's got a full bank. So we got Steve.
He's got a nineteen toet of Sienna. Steve, what's up today?

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Uh? You know you guys have been talking about batteries. Uh.
I've got to put a new battery in my Sienna
very soon. Am I going to have any problems with
that battery?

Speaker 6 (05:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Trying to reset this or that.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
You know, Sienna is one.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Well, this is going back to your Toyota story from
last week.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It was that was just a weird one off.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Have not had that happen on any other tote of
product other than that RAT four. Is this a hybrid
or just a normal.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
No, it's a regular engine. That was the last year
of the regular engine.

Speaker 7 (05:47):
Went.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I don't think you're gonna have any problem, uh, changing
this battery with the car off. I've never had a
problem with one of those. I really haven't now.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Yeah, you should just be able to disconnect and go.
Just remember, disconnect your negative first, then disconnect the positive,
go back together, connect your positive, then the negative.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, your negative always is the one you want to
put on last when you're hooking things back up or
take it off first. It just there's less sparking going
on there, and it's.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Just not as heavy as ARC.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, not heavy as ARC because you're you're loading everything
up and that's the better way to do it and
get yourself whatever calls for on. If that's an a
GM or that's just a regular flood acid battery, just
get whatever it's. The flood acid battery is going to
be cheaper, but don't always go that way because the
if it if it requires.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
An a GM, you need the amp preserve. Yeah, you
need the amp preserve in there. Yeah, and the numbers,
the numbers on top.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
You can google the numbers on top and uh, just
you know, put that right into Google. It'll kind of
tell you what it is, whether it's a flood actor
or an AGM battery, so that you can get the
right one.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
At the part store.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
All right, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I appreciate the call.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
All Right, we're gonna have over with John. John's got
an eight avalanche. John, what's going on today?

Speaker 7 (07:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (07:04):
So I when I start the truck, it's cold, and
I put it in reverse and go to apply the brakes,
it kind of makes a clunky noise, you know, done
at the pedal. But and I also noticed that, you know,
when you first start it too, if you try to
drive off it, the breaking power doesn't seem to be

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very strong, Like the truck wants to move even though
you got pushing on the brake. Okay, But once the
truck's a little bit warmed up, I mean, even just
you know, a minute or two, it seems like that
problem goes away, especially if the choke or whatever it does,
you know, is this goes away. You know, the engine

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teams down.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
It should have some kind of a break assist underneath
the dash there. If you look at your power break booster,
you know where you fill up your break fluid at
you know where the vacuum host that goes into the
side of that is. Okay, so look at that. If
there's a connector on it, there's a really good possibility
that there's an assist motor underneath there for your brake pedal. Okay,

(08:12):
So we'll need to look at that and see if
it has that system is kind of what it sounds like.
If it doesn't and it's just a regular booster, then
I mean if you're feeling a clunk in the brake
pedal itself.

Speaker 8 (08:26):
Yeah, it's kind of like a like some plastic bang
on against each other, some kind of wood, like just
a slight, you know, real quick. And it only does
it when it's cold, you know, if it's you know,
when you start driving the truck and it's gone and
I don't maybe it only doesn't reverse because I always
drive up forward into the driveway.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
But sure, is that is that cold just on like
a normal day today or cold sub zero kind of thing.

Speaker 8 (08:54):
I think it's always maybe worse in cold cold, but
it seems like always like when you first go to
push the brake, it's just kind of weird, clunky sound.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Maybe you know, climb underneath the dash. Take a visual
when you go out there to start it, just kind
of you know, you can take the panels off. Be
careful because they're always really brittle, but take the panels
off so you can see the entire action of your
brake pedal and then just you know, sit there, start
the truck and then just use your hand and watch it.

(09:30):
See if maybe there isn't something hanging down in your way,
because there's a lot of stuff underneath the dash. Oh
you know, maybe get a visual on it. If you
can't see it and you're feeling it hard in your hand,
then we know we got a break booster that's having
an issue something inside there.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, it's holding vacuum and all of a sudden you
step on the brakes and then it releases and goes
pimpink and you know the spring inside that also. I
would try it too, since you're always going in reverse
and hearing this obviously, put it in drive and see
if you're hearing it too.

Speaker 8 (10:00):
I got you. Maybe park the truck next time, and
then you know, go back it in and yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Back it in or I go.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
You don't have to go forward.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
But if you just put it in gear and step
on the brakes and maybe inch forward a little bit,
maybe it does the same thing.

Speaker 8 (10:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but gotcha.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
We're just we're saying and all that stuff. So the
way we approach car repair a lot of times is
that you have its process of elimination and you have
to kind of just say, Okay, I've isolated it down
to it does this, this, this and here and there
and over with it this way, and then then it
leads you kind of to where your your problem is.

Speaker 8 (10:32):
Yeah, and I got one other case, you've got time.
I got one other thing I'm asking on it too,
is there's a you know, I noticed that when I'm
driving down the road and I hit the gas, I
can hear a little bit of a it sounds like
almost like a power steering sound, you know, coming from
the near the rear end. Because I had the back
seat portion of my Avalanche down so I could hear
more noise, and it just sounds like it makes a

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little bit of noise when I hit the gas, but
then when I let off, it almost instantly goes away.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
It sounds like opinion bearing kind of does. Yeah, it's
under load and then you take the load off.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah, kind of goes away.

Speaker 8 (11:07):
So what do I do to fix that?

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Check your fluid, make sure it's full.

Speaker 8 (11:13):
Is that the rear end?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, real differential. Check your fluid, makes for it's full.
If it's never been changed, maybe you want.

Speaker 8 (11:18):
To change it.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah, maybe you want to change the fluid. Pull the
pan off the back.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
See just what if any kind of debris, metal, things
of that nature, and maybe new fluid helps it.

Speaker 8 (11:31):
So I never really noticed it until I took you know,
had the seats down.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
Sure. Yeah, yeah, well you caught it at the right
time because it's just starting. So yeah, there might be
an additive to that differential as well. So do some
reading on that as far as fluid. And sometimes there's
a small, you know, two ounce bottle of additive they
want you to put in those.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Yeah, change the fluid, put the seat back up, and
I bet you it goes away.

Speaker 7 (11:54):
Yeah, I gotcha.

Speaker 8 (11:56):
I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
All right, thanks for the call.

Speaker 7 (11:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
All right, we're gonna take a quick break of the
Mister Mechanic Show'll be back in a minute.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
You need an oil jack. Don't forget.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
We're going to shoot back to the collars on hold
at the moment. Jason's got a thirteen raptor. Jason, what's
up today?

Speaker 9 (12:37):
Hey?

Speaker 7 (12:37):
What's going on? Guys?

Speaker 6 (12:38):
You've helped me out in the path on this No
check engine lights two hundred and five thousand just replaced
the purge valve, checked all the fuses randomly. When I
come to a stop, not very often, but if I
come to a complete stop, my truck will just die,
just cease to exist. No check engine lights. It doesn't
hick up, it doesn't do anything just right when you
come to a stop. Sometimes it'll just die.

Speaker 9 (13:02):
Fires right back up.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Okay, I think I'm going towards the throttle first.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I think I am too throttle body. That's where I'm
thinking it. Well, when you're coming down, so when the
throttle body completely shuts, it has to have a minimum
air idle uh in order for the engine to run,
and they'll just get a coating on the inside of
it and it just kind of shuts that that off.
And it used to have an idle air control motor,

(13:30):
but now that the electronic throttle bodies have come out.
We've gotten kind of rid of that, and it kind
of it's all integrated. It's all yeah, it's all one
piece now as it was before.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Generally, you can just take this throttle body off. I
take them off the engine to clean them, you know,
just kind of inspect it really good. Is it really dirty.
If it's clean, I might be looking at putting one on.
If it's dirty, I'm going to clean it.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
You know.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
You can get some kind of throttle body cleaner, toothbrush,
spray it all out, get everything cleaned up in there,
put it back on. I'm not sure if there's a
reset on that, but if you don't turn the key on,
it doesn't know it's not not there. So that should
all stay in the memory. So just unplug it. I
take them off. Some people clean them with it on
the car, but I don't want to load an engine
up with cleaner.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Carburetor cleaner.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, and you're gonna get a big bang.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
And don't take your finger and force the throttle plates
open to try to clean it better. That all that
will do is ruin it and strip out the gears
and put it out of sink and everything else.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
And we don't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
And one of the other problems why Kyle is saying
just potentially replace it if it doesn't, if the cleaning
doesn't fix it, is because when it comes down to that,
to the base, let's just pick a number out and
say that base is nine percent, and well maybe when
it drops all the way down, it drops to four
percent and then pops back to ten.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
They're plastic gears in there, and they wear, and that's
how this happens. I mean going down the road. I mean,
you don't think that you're on and off the gas
as much as you are, but that little plastic gear
in there is constantly moving.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yeah, and it's a good question.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's a raptor with two hundred thousand miles on my guess,
as you had your foot in it more than once.

Speaker 6 (15:13):
Well, the question I'm having there is I hear.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
What you're saying.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
If that was the case in the throttle body plates
where it tells it to idle, we're going bad, wouldn't
I have some sort of fluctuation at any time, even
when it didn't die, if they were starting to go
bad from.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Dirt, you might be surprised.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yes and no, Okay, Yes and no, only because it's
electronics and that stuff happens so fast that sometimes when
we put a scanner to it, we've got to take
pictures of it and videos of it in order to
see and in real time what actually happened. Because to
watch your eye on the scanner to see it.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
You won't find it.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
You won't find it.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Yeah, you have to graph, you have to. It has
to be.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
That, and that wouldn't throw a code not.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
On forard, gotcha or anything else.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
Guys, I appreciate that. That's definitely a better direction than
where I've been.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Yeah, good, great, well, let us hear back. If it
didn't have a good result.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
I'll do it all right.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Appreciate the call.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Thank you, all right, go ahead, Ford Software. I mean
it just bothers me runn around.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
The windows eight.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
Third ms dots. Oh my gosh, I trying to get
any information out of Afford.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I mean you're pulling teeth at this.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Even with their factory tool that's made for fixing these things,
you're lucky to get anything and to get it to
work fast. Now you're really asking.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, you gotta, yeah, you gotta take a video. You
kind of have to blow it up. You have to
put it back in slow motion time in order to
see a glitch.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Like you talking. You just talked about that.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
That's Chevy you did last weekend or last yeah, about
how you had to kind of get that and you're
finding seen the glitch in the throttle body.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Two milliseconds, yeah, two milliseconds all it took to set
a check engine light.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, and that's and that's kind of where he went
and finally solved the problem. But you can't just see that.
So we're gonna hit over to Brad. Brad's got a
nineteen jeep Grand Cherokee. Brad, what is up today?

Speaker 9 (17:19):
Okay? The it's my son's car. And we decided to
change the transmission fluid a couple of weeks ago and
put an aftermarket pan on and went through the proper
procedures as far as cycling the engine through the gears
and everything. But got all kinds of lights on the

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dash and it's thrown a couple codes. The one that
you fourteen twelve implausible vehicle speed signal. That's a permanent
code that apparently you can't clear with the scanner. It's
also got a five oh one P zero five oh
one code. And we just can't figure out what the

(18:03):
heck's going on with this thing.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
So all we did was drop the fluid and changed
the pan.

Speaker 9 (18:09):
That was it. Yeah, that's it. Just put up an
aftermarket pan on with a replaceable filter in it, and
well we rotated the tires at the same time. But
that's all we did.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Interesting is a pan h deeper than than the original one?

Speaker 9 (18:30):
Or you know, I wish I had looked at it
more closely before we put it on. I just glanced
at it and it looked like basically the same pan.
It's a you know, it's a it's a it's not
off Amazon, it's a prop it's a a fairly common
brand you know that you can get, you know, with

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the replaceable filter in it.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Right, and replaceable filters I think is on the inside.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Of that that transmission correctly is yes, you know, Oh.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
I'm going I guess. The first thing that comes to
mind is you were not having any of these issues
prior to.

Speaker 9 (19:09):
That, correct, nothing right, no problems at all.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
So you had to and like we've said on this
show many times, you had to take one giant step
backwards and say, Okay, what did I do?

Speaker 2 (19:21):
If it wasn't there before, what did I create?

Speaker 3 (19:24):
And I kind of think you created maybe a connection
or something on the inside of that pan or around
where that filter's ad or and that maybe that lead
frame that there's a lead frame that's in there, and
that lead frame is basically all the electronics and wiring
and things like that, that a bad connection was created
or popped off or.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Something like that.

Speaker 9 (19:45):
That way, I've been trying to find good pictures of
in everything, and I've gone through some manuals and stuff.
I know the output speed sensor is right back in
the area on the backside of that transmission, pretty closer.
But I don't see how we could have bumped anything

(20:06):
there putting the pan up, because the pan basically just
goes up and kind of plugs into you know, it's
got an input place for the fluid and it kind
of just goes on there.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, and you probably didn't even you didn't even unplug.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
It, did you.

Speaker 9 (20:23):
As far as the mechanic goes in there, now, we
didn't even touch it, well, the stuff, as far as
the speed, the solnoids there anything.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, the external speed sensor you probably didn't touch.

Speaker 9 (20:33):
No, no, yeah, not unless you could have bumped it
with the pan putting it up, and I don't think
you can from looking at it.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
I don't think you can either a lot of times
if you pull a connector off and put a connector
back on, every once in a while, you'll have a
wire that gets pushed back out and that'll create a problem. Yeah,
I agree, most of this stuff is probably up in
mid transmission and maybe a little higher that comes in there.
These also do Like I said, they also have a

(21:03):
lead frame problem inside of them, because this is kind
of a was nineteen nineteen. Yeah, you got the lead
a flight a frame problem in there, and the lead
frame is just a fancy word for kind of circuit
board and wiring. And they also have a problem with
them leaking where they come out of the electrical connector
gets plugged into the side there too.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
So I think the probably the best place to start,
because both of our codes are pointing to the vehicle
speed sensor right, so.

Speaker 9 (21:36):
Where I should probably I probably should mention that nothing
related to speed inside the car works. This phenomenon is dead.
Your blind side sensor's abs, light traction, everything.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
There, everything that goes on vehicle speed. It needs to
know that you're moving. So I'm going to go to
that sensor. I'm going to go right to it. I'm
going to look at it, you know, visually. First. Is
there anything bad? Is there anything wrong? Is there anything
aside from what it needs to be? So then we've
got to test it. I mean, this one, I'm not

(22:11):
one hundred percent particularly sure the exact style of censor
it is, but most of them are too wire. I mean,
you'll have a signal voltage going in and then it
turns across a reluctor and generates a signal coming out.
It's not something you're going to test with a test
light or anything like that. I mean, to be honest,
I mean in your driveway. The thing that I would

(22:34):
do is what I call swap gnostics. I'm swapping the
part as part of my diagnostics because odds are it's
probably a pretty cheap center.

Speaker 9 (22:44):
Unfortunately, from what I've gathered I'm looking at the Chiltern
manual online at the library and stuff, it seemed like
that sensor is not replaceable from the outside. It's like
part of the module in there.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Brett Brad Hang on just a second, we'll discuss this
a little bit more. I gotta take a quick break.
We'll be right back in a minute. Kind of what
we talked about a little bit in this particular sensor,
that the output speed sensor is internal in the transmission
and so you can't really do anything on the outside
of it. His communication code is has has is a
module inside there. So what I advised him was kind

(23:23):
of what I originally said was it didn't have the
problem before, it has the problem now we created.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Something, or he created something. I didn't do anything. You're
off the hook for this one. But I'm off hook
for this one. But he didn't mean to.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
It's just part of car repair and you you're twisting
up there, your hands, getting the way you want to
get done with the job, and you're just you don't
always pay attention. Something may have come off, Something may
have just come off a little bit, just enough to
not make a good connection.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
It happens and given to us that have done it
for years, our whole.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Everybody, everybody, everybody out there that's been a mechanics.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
This has happened to you.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
So you got to return to the scene of the crime. Yeah,
and the crime was and maybe the something bumped when
you put the pan up there. There's just a multitude
of things. But my guess is that once they pulled,
it's a messy, dirty job to pull the transmission pan
down and blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
That fluid it no matter what. If you're on your back,
your arm pitcher be full of transmission. Yeah, it's terrible.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
I have no doubt that it'll be an easy fix
once he gets in there. It's just trying to convince
yourself you don't want to go back in there.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, And I mean it can be unsettling, So I
mean talking through his whole thing off the air here.
So we had two codes set. One was a U code,
the second one was just your generic PO code telling us,
you know, hey, vehicle speed sensor.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
There's a problem there. And the other one it's a
communication code. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
So the fact that it sets a U code with
this vehicle speed sensor code tells us immediately that that
is part of a module. So a lot of the
things that I feel help me diagnose things is, you know,
we get a code and people like to just jump
right to the part, you know, part stores have you

(25:12):
know made diy guys that way, because you get a
code for an egr. Well, let's get inside. We'll look
you up one. It's got to be an egr. It
says it right here.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Oxygen sensors are the top selling part at the part store.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
All they are is a big tattle tailed and tail.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Pipe followed by water pumps. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
So it I mean, do some we have the Internet now,
I mean it's great. We don't have to get books. Yeah,
and you got to find the page. You got to
find all this you just google.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
It, but you have to the Internet can lead you
down the right a great story, or it can lead
you down the wrong path. But you have to have
some a little bit of knowledge. And just because they
posted it doesn't mean it's exactly correct.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Chat Rooms can lead you one way.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
You gotta do due diligence. Just don't find the first
thing and say that must be it. Go down a
deeper hole.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
I use like OBD codes dot com. It's a library
of codes and it I mean ninety percent of the codes.
Were looking at our po codes, their generic codes. Every
car can set up. Yeah, every car. So they have
a data list of you know, hey, this is what
sets this code. Find out what triggers it. Not just
the part sometimes car repairs like a scavenger hunt. Yeah,

(26:28):
you gotta go find it right under the head of
a Mercedes solve the problem.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
All right, John's been patiently waiting. John's got a sixteen
Dodge Ram. John, what's up today?

Speaker 7 (26:39):
Yeah, I've got a twenty sixteen Ram fifteen hundred and
five point seven. It has fifty thousand miles on I
had one lifter fail, so I had all the all
the lifters replaced while while he was in there working
on it. And now I've been changing the oil every
three thousand miles since it was new, and I've been
using five W twenty semi SENTTHETTI That's what the garage

(27:00):
was using it for me. RAM recommends five W twenty
fully synthetic, and some research online said to use five
W thirty fully synthetic. I just wonder if you had
any ideas I just got this truck back, any ideas
on what I might be able to do in the
future to prevent this or I know it's a common
problem with those engine but any ideas.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I was going to tell you to trade it if
you want to get rid of the problem. Forever.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
We've tried all the different oils, all everything else, and
they still go bad.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Unfortunately, it's kind of an inherent issue.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I don't think you're going to go wrong either way.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I guess if I'm if I'm I I would rather
probably if it was me, I probably graduate more towards
the synthetic than I would the conventional or the semisynthetic,
just because it gives you a better protection, better where
and there's just no subject to as far as lubrication goes.
Was with a synthetic oil, they're just not.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
I don't know if there's how much research has been done,
but I mean we tried up in the zinc level
in ease. Have you heard any studies about that. Yeah,
back in the old days you had a flat tapic
cam and you had to put zinc additive in your
oil when.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
You first had to break it in and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (28:21):
No.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I mean, the synthetic again, is just the most superior
oil that there is, and then a lot of times
once it gets a bunch of miles on it, it
starts consuming that oil. And you know, we've had some
people drop back down to a thicker waight oil the
semisynthetic just to kind of slow that down so they
don't end up having to put an engine in it.
But that's that's my recommendation. I mean, it's an inherent

(28:46):
problem that even though you do the best possibly you can,
you know, change the oil every thousand miles, the potential
of it still.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
We haven't redesigned away from the problem here.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. We haven't redesigned the problem out of
it yet. Oh, it's that's the biggest problem.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
And after she said, were an updated version of of
of the original one? But would that make any real
difference or they're still going to fail? I mean, should
I just trade it in what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (29:15):
I guess yeah? Can they still fail? Absolutely? Is it
going to happen right away?

Speaker 9 (29:21):
Is?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I can't say that now?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Is the updated version much better?

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yes? It is.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
It is to use your mind a little bit if
the updated version is. But it's better than the ones
that the prior were there that was failing like crazy.

Speaker 7 (29:35):
Okay, it's very common.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's a very common problem.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
They don't seem to have it as much in the
higher and they got what three versions of that HEMI
and I think it's the six seven, uh that doesn't
have near that problem with that.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Yeah, I mean the bigger ones. I mean they're in
bigger trucks, they're more gear, camshaft is different.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
So yeah, what what the actual cause of the failure is.
I don't know. I always see it on the backside
where my camshaft and all my lifters are in the
oil pan, so I can't really see what causes it.
I'm pretty sure that the rollers start to fail and
then it just goes downhill from there and there.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
Yeah, okay, he said it was all right. It just
you know, and we had one bad lifter and I
had him replace him all while he.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Was in there.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah. Sure, great idea.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
They're just the roller lifters on these things are just tiny,
itty bitty rollers, Yeah, I mean they are. How they
get him in there and don't drop half of them,
I'll never know, but they they It's just it just
seems like it's it's a thing to fail, you know. Yeah,
compared to the old kind of the style that we
had that would just rotate on the cam and it

(30:48):
just didn't go bad unless the cam was bad.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Yeah, they were fine, Chrysler. I mean, it's not just
the ram. The three two three four pair three six
Pinnace Star, same problem. Just everything's on top. They eat
up camshafts, they eat up rockers, they eat up anything
with a bearing in the top end, and it's just
something that they we come to expect it, I guess

(31:11):
from them. But yeah, there again, there's not really a
fixed for them. I mean, they're just they made some
updated parts. But just keep maintaining it and you'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, good old flash and oil changes is probably your
best medicine.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
It really is.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
In running the best synthetic you can.

Speaker 7 (31:27):
And there's no ad it is. Aren't going to matter
like Lucas or any of that stuff. Not really gonna matter.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
No, that's going to thicken you up.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
Okay, yeah that we just time to trade it in.
It's a beautiful truck otherwise.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
But drive it yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Huh yeah yeah, and then put a new uh new
rebuilt in. They're only I don't know the last when
we did about fifteen grand, so.

Speaker 7 (31:57):
Yeah, I think something like thirty four. Yeah, yeah, all right, all.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Right, you bet appreciate it. Call yep.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
All right, we're gonna take a quick break in the
Mister Mechanics Show and we'll be back in a minute.
Here's an interesting article. I kind of run across the
world's best selling cars in twenty four. This is world
by the way, it's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
One, uh.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Tesla model why it was the best, the best, most
most most sold. This is basically the best worldwide, most
selling best cars, I mean not the best cars, but
the you know behind that, and number two is Tota
Corolla Rav four and the F one fifty c r V,

(32:45):
Chevy Silverado, Tucson camery kiya oh b y d b
y d that song that that's the one that's the
all electric one, and then the TIK one coming up
the bottom. So that is the world's best selling cars
of twenty four.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
What do you think twenty five will be Tesla's going
to go down? Oh yeah, yeah, no kidding, they are.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Now let's move over to United States top fifty and
we're going to do to the top ten, but the
top fifty United States in twenty twenty four, and that
turns over to the RAV four. The RAF four overtook
the F one fifty as the most sold still, you know,
and then f one fifties after that Honda CRV model

(33:34):
Y Tesla, so you know, went from it dropped down
four Silverado camer Corolla, so it drops off pretty hard
in the United States. For the Corolla, Corola was number
two worldwide and they're down about seven on the United States.
It's still a great car. Yeah, Nissan Rogue in the
United States.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Oh gosh, yeah, oh gosh, come on, guys.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Come on, guys.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Uh and then the Honda Civic and then followed up
by the gmc so Chevrolet. You know, got two in there.
You got Tote that's got a couple in there. It's
it's in Honda's got a couple in there. So yeah,
so when you ask what you should go buy it,
kind of we kind of just told you a little bit.
I guess there's cards that just work. But it's kind

(34:22):
of interesting how which you know, the RAF four and
last year that the first two were flip flopped. The
Tode Raft four was always number two, has been number
two for the longest time.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
F one fifty. I mean they've been selling that like
that for years and years and years. I mean it's
the world's foremost fleet.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Viehicle and still the number one you know truck sold
by far and probably never at the most part going
to probably lose that unless something really goes south in
the f one fifty.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
And they they will do anything to keep that title.
I mean, if you're looking at buying a fleet of car,
I mean you can get them at cost, Yeah, just
because they want to moved.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
And it's the difference is a couple hundred thousand units,
I mean roughly a rough number is, you know, maybe
seven fifty eight hundred a year they'll sell, and then
then the Silverado is somewhere in the five hundreds.