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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Beat Bob.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
He's a four time tire rotation champion. When he was
a baby, his first words were automatic transmission fluid. Bob's
so cool he has engine coolant running through his veins.
And then there's Kyle, also lit as Premium Unleaded.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Legend has it that Kyle.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Can change your oil with his toes.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And that he can tell your tires all pressure just.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
By how you're walking.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
He's Bob, He's.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Kyle, and every Saturday morning they morphed together to form
the greatest superhero known to man, Mister Mechanic, check eche
and light stop.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Stand a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
This is the Mister Mechanic Show on eleven ten, kfab.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Great Saturday morning to this is a Mister Mechanic Show.
Five five, eight, eleven ten is the numbers to get in.
Get in early so we can get you back to
this gorgeous couple of days we're going to have and
get your car fixed, man, right.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Kyle, Yeah, Yeah, it's the perfect time for it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Got some antique car shows you know out there kind
of they're starting to come around, the starting to come
around those places you just jump into, like on Wednesday,
Thursday nights. Go see people's cars. You get to see
the regulars, you get to see some new people, get
to see some other stuff. So that that kind of
get that car fixed, to get it back out there
because you know, we haven't touched it for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, I know that, I know how that goes. Yeah,
that's for sure. You know, uh.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Cars, I see an article that kind of cars are
starting to upticking price use cars. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
and we're gonna wait for all the terrorists to get
it in effect. I don't think they have. They got
ninety day supply of vehicles, so most people do, and
that's ninety to one hundred day. Chrysler had like two
(01:52):
hundred days there for a while, but I think they
knocked it back and it's kind of been everybody home
for two weeks and now they're back down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So, I mean, it's really kind of a roller coaster
because remember COVID, there was nothing, Yeah, and the market
went crazy through the roof with used cars, and then
it kind of plateaued a little bit, and now we're
going to see another big spike and.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Supply and demand. That's really what it all is about.
You know, it goes anywhere from pancake mix all the
way up to cars, you know, just whatever supplying the man.
But I don't think I think as long as your
supply out there right now, I don't think you've got
to rush out and do it today or next week.
But if you're thinking about a new car or something
on that line, you might want to get in for
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it goes up, but you're.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Put it in the books for the next six months.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, yeah, because you get in ninety days for sure,
as you'll usually when they run out of cars and
they're trying to keep that kind of going, So that's
for sure. But prices of used cars, and again if
you're out looking for used cars, great, just do your
due diligence and get it checked out.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
You know. That brings up a and I'm going to
say this before I forget it, but so I got
to visit one of our local pullet yards yesterday and
I was shocked. I didn't get to take a picture
of it cause I didn't have my phone with me,
but there were I counted two cars that still had
good valid in transits on them. Really in the junk yard.
(03:17):
I was like, somebody's gonna take that off of there
and fold it up and try and miss a ticket.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
So they bought it and didn't even make it the
thirty days before it died.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, just you know, I mean these weren't wrecked either.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, so yeah, definitely motor blew up something along that line.
You work too hard for your money, you might as
well spend just a little bit more and have somebody
check it out. And uh, because there's a lot of
cars that are great that we check out, and then
there's a lot of cars that we just we lifted
up and put it back down in about five ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
We say, go find something else. There's some of them
we can't even get up the rock. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, I have put the the hoists through the floor
of a couple of cars and say, well that's that. Yep,
that's that. Now you got something extra. You got air
conditioning in the back seat?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Now? Oh god?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, and some cards we won't lift up in the
air because we're afraid the frame is cracked and that
it needs to go and it's a safety issue. So yeah,
especially in what we call the rust Belt, used to
be up north and it's kind of moved all the
way back down to uh Nebraska, now, so you really
gotta be careful. We're gonna head over to Bob. Bob's
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got a twenty twelve f one to fifty Bob. What
is up today?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Hey guys, I got a runaway starter. Okay, I went
out the other night after work start my truck and
the starter engages. It almost catches, and I let off
the key and the starter key's running okay.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Three times, so it's starting and running, but it's just
staying running.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Well, it doesn't. The motor never does catch. The motor don't,
but the starter does.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, okay, so this is how long does the starter
do this? Does it shut off after a certain amount
of time? Yeah? Okay, so that's the starter working normally.
We need to fix why the engine doesn't start, because
once the engine engages, your starter.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Disengages, but the ignition switch and the starter keeps running too.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So you've either got so you've got the ground is
the ground with which you bolt the the starter to
the engine, and you've got a main power wire and
then you have a s terminal, so you've got to
you've got a wire that's sending signal down there and
that if that's staying on, then that's kind of why
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your problem has had that's either shorted against something or
you've got a bad problem in the starter itself.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, either a shortage so anoid or some wires touching
down there.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's that'd be the first place i'd look as a
visual look to see if you see anything that's that's
because every time you start a starter, those there's a
little bit of point, there's a little bit of contact
metal transfer. I guess they used to call it, just
like the old points, if you remember that. And after
a while those that those will make points to the
point where they just don't want to unstick. And when
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they don't unstick, that's why I used to file down
your points so that they would work better. The same
kind of principle. You've got two metal tanks that go
in when it gets sucked in and sometimes that electro
magnet is not strong enough to pull it back, and
the spring inside there, that's really what.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It boils down to it so it stays stuck on.
To test it, there's gonna be a small wire down
there at the starter. There's a big fat battery wire
and there's a small wire. You can just disconnect that
small wire get your test light out, hook it to
that small wire. Have somebody turned the key like they're
cranking it? Do I have power? You're going to because
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we know it does get power, keeps cranking and then have
them shut it off. Does your power go away? If
your power goes away, you know that you're shorted in
your solenoid.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Right the power does not go away and stays on
for five seconds, then you've got to look for shorted
wires up against something else going on the way, or
possibly up into the fuse box or relay. That's the
next spot that you're heading towards. It's a too thogh,
it's a twelve twelve fifty. It's not uncommon to have
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fusebox problems in this one either.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
So it's it could actually be the starter relay.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It could sure, if you're described, we gotta do the test.
I just said, we got to see are we erasing
power down there when we let the key off?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yes, that's your first that's your first step, all right.
So as soon as you let off the key, that
twelve vote power to that s that tight. That small
wire to the starter should be gone immediately. If it's not.
If it's not gone, immediately. Something is keeping that key
keeping the power going down there on?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
All right?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Any other problems it has besides that.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
It's got a code for oxygen sets or wire okay
on the left bank.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, that's not going to anything. That's something different.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Well, of course, the next day it starts right up
and they'll drive.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It all mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I think you got to start there first.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I would test that starter, I mean, because I mean
even get down there and hit it with a hammer.
If it's cranking over and cranking over and cranking over,
climb under there and swing a hammer at it.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And does does it stay going for what? Thirty seconds?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah? Good seconds?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
And I agree with Kyle. You get you grab a
small starter or small hammer, get underneath her and just
tap on the bottom of that starter and see if
it quits. That'll tell you right there, you gotta stellinoid stuck.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
All right.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And hammer's a wonderful thing we've got, mister, mechanic hammers
in stocks. Would you want one? Just give us a call.
We'll send one.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Out autographed of course, of course.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
All right, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Thanks for you bet you know, it's uh, it's amazing
what we you just diagnostic tool with a hammer? Oh yeah,
I hit everything with a hammer. Yeah, at least once
to see what happens. But and then you got to
get a little further.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You can't do that with with the with the electronics, Kyle,
That's sure, you can, you bet you can.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
All right, we're gonna take quick break in the mister
Mechanic show five five, eight to eleven, tens and numbers
to get in.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We'll be back in a minute.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
The Mechanic Joe presents the cheesiest songs of the eighties.
That's right, we're talking the worst, the cheesiest, those songs
you love to hate, just for mechanics. I'm all out
of grease. I'm so dry with out you my pistoon
to dry.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And I really need you, My dear site is low.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I think I need oil. You ruin my car down,
you ignition coil.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Nothing like a little air wrench supply hell, and who
could forget the ball joint boys?
Speaker 7 (10:17):
I ya, I'll rub you who I want to prime
you engine douler, your fluids, Holy if you do.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It, But your car is dor thing I can do.
Your car is strew and you are it is to
your car is.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
And this hit from Millie Vanilli, who are ironically working
at an actual gas station today. Your tires are low
and your oil shuits.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
Do you really need more transmission flutes?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Your paul joints broken?
Speaker 9 (10:53):
You're training these downs. You cannot need a car run
out of allud. So here is your bill.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I all I could do for me.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
You know it's true, And even this fantastic hit, no
one even remembers. I already broken on the round ninety.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
That Jo good thing.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I prod a jack. I prod a jack.
Speaker 9 (11:17):
I prod a jack.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
I thought a jack.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Mike gall is broken on the road.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I need a jogod thing.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
I prod a jack.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I prod a jack.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
HIGH prod a Jack.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
The Mister Mechanic Show presents the cheesiest songs of the
eighties available in a store nowhere near you.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Stop and see us, and uh help you get your
car back on the road, Pop candy cigarette, whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
We're there.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
All right, We're gonna go back over to Travis. Travis
got a ninety f f two fifty. Travis is an
old dog, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
Yeah? I put a rebuilt engine put in it by
John wishman runs.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Great.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Problem I'm having is my key's not working. Uh to
the start of so annoid. The wire that there is
not getting its twelve old so I have to jump
right off the battery every time I want to start it.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I know what's wrong with this one.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
And I followed it over to it went over to
the TFI module. It seemed like and uh, I home
checked the wire and the TFI module home check good.
So I put an O'Reilly CFI module in it and
it's still it's not working.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So your your engine doesn't crank.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Right right with the key with the key, but I
can get the crank with the battery.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So when you put your key in the ignition in
your turn it does it feel really loose and floppy?
Or is it good?
Speaker 8 (12:42):
It could be loose and sloppy. I think it's factory original.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Okay, it is. So on top of your steering column,
where your steering column meets your dash, there's a a
little panel with two Phillips screws on either side of
the steer and column you follow. If you take that
off of there, right down the center of that steering column,
you're going to see a steel rod. You know, just
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a small rod.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
Yeah yeah, Now.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
If you grab that with a pair of needle nose
or something and push that towards the dash, your engine
should crank.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
You think of that rod broke in there.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I know it is. There's a rack and a connecting
piece in there that are made of plastic, and they
from the factory if it is factory original, which I
find hard to believe. As many of these as we replace,
they're still plastic the replacements. But Ford put this grease
in this steering column that just congeals and gets hard
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as a rock, hard to turn, and it breaks these
plastic pieces.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Does this car by does this car by chance no
start when it this tilt column?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
It's a tilt yeah, so so maybe.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It doesn't start when you put it all the way up,
but does start when you pull it all the way down.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
We've seen that.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Have you tried that.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
I have not tilted that calling years.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So put it all the way to the top, see
if it starts. If not, put it all the way
to the bottom and see if it starts. And then
if it does, you know, Kyle's in the right area.
But he's I think he's in the right area anyway,
because it's uh, those those racking everything in there. It
was just yeah, they were all pot metal and they
were crappy. It is uh, if you've not done one,
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they're not the go ahead.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Do they make replacement that still or oh yeah, oh yeah,
yeah you can get them.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
They're what's called a help section part in every automotive
parts store. There's that whole wall of blister packs that
say help on them. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Go to Google and type in ignition rack assembly on uh,
you know, and you'll find steering column ignition rack assembly
and you'll find what you're looking for. You see pictures
that way, you know what you're looking for.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And if you've never done one, it can be a
very intimidating job. Yeah, there's a lot that has to
go on in there, and it all comes apart as one.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Piece, but there's always a lot that goes on inside
of pulling down a steering column, especially that one.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, especially that one. Yeah, but yeah, it can be
if you've never done one, it can be very intimidating.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
So I don't think I'll have any problems.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Sure now And they've gotten rid of that particular system.
They moved on to one that is h oh equally
as bad.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, yeah, but it's easier to fix.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
How's that?
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Yeah, well that don't help me in my term.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Now I think we're in the right spot.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, Like like Kyle says, if you can push that down,
I don't think you're getting the ignition switch.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
The rod is not pushing the ignition switch all the
way to the starter portion. I think that's that's where
we're heading towards.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
All right, all right, you.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Bet any more problems?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Got this call? Appreciate Travis yep. Appreciate the call. Gosh,
what was it like two or three years ago? Like
one week, I did four of those and I was like, finally,
like the second one, I was like, where are these
trucks coming from? Like I hadn't done one in probably
twelve years, thirteen years prior to that, and then I
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get three four in a week.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Isn't that funny? Sometimes we'll get that kind of thing.
It's like, where where have the's been in the last
six months or eight months? Next thing, you know, yeah,
you get the same car in same color. We had
a car in the same color, same car, almost the
same year, with the repair the other day in two
bays like well, what's wrong with that car?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Same thing? Yeah, mix them up. You got new brakes,
but you won't start. Yeah, it's amazing how that happens.
And and.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, and then they went into the two thousands and
that turned into a rod and rack and not a
rack but a kind of a post, and it turned
into a different column kind of thing, which is much
They still wear out pretty good, but they it's.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Those focuses and the escapes and everything with that whole
l shape, ignition lock housing that.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
They're just me ors. It seemed like Ford has a
continually run of a problem with that.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yes, yeah, yeah they I thought that too. I don't
know what's worse that or the engine. Well we love them, yeah,
we love them because they keep us in business. I mean,
if everything didn't break, we wouldn't know what to do,
because you know, it's just what we do. We fixed
broke things. That's part of what it is.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Here's an interesting article, Kyle. I did not realize and
I know the suburban and that's suburban has been around
for ninety years, started in nineteen twenty or nineteen thirty five.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Were they actually calling at the suburban therese? I know,
like the ad years. It was a suburban.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It started off as Chevy truck and then it kind
of went to suburban, but the name plate was kind
of suburban. Kind of got fixed in then nineteen thirty five,
so from then and it just kind of went from
there from all the deliveries and then they started kind
of two wheel drives, and then Napco came along and
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made it into four wheel drive.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And then that's because somebody, You don't see many of
them like suburban, like vintage suburbans. No, No, I've scoured
junk yards for twenty years, and no, there are aren't
out there.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
No they are, And a lot of them were the
old sedan deliveries that just had the door open on
the on the on the curb side so you could
get stuff in and out. And but you know, it's interesting,
there's only a few name plates out there that have
been around that kind of long. You know, we've talked
about total Corolla being one worldwide that's been around for
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a long time. In ninety years is pretty good for
just the suburban nameplate.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, it started out as a little small truck the
size of a Corolla. Yeah, I look where they're at now. Yeah,
big as a school bus and probably seeks as many people.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Hell yeah, and the luxurious as they are now they
ride and there's so much smoother. Every year, it seems
like they get a little bit of a little bit better.
It's like, what are they holding back?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
You know what? That's thing Like I was thinking the
other day because I was in the middle of a class,
and I'm like, you know, cause we do so many
classes a year to keep up on everything. And so
I was talking to a buddy of mine that's seventy seven.
Now it's been a mechanic his whole life, and so yeah,
you I mean we used to you know, back in
the seventies and eighties. I mean they have like maybe
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one class a year or something. Because when you think
about it, I mean back then, moving up to where
we're at now, I mean, things didn't happen fast. I mean, no,
you had points and then it switched to electronic ignition
cool twelve thirteen years later, let's do away with carburetors,
or let's make carburetors electronic, and then let's do it. Yeah,
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they tried to save that. You know, this was over
the course of decades and now, I mean things change
by the minute if you watch close.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, we were exponentially faster now in a year's time.
Used to take ten years, especially in the car. All Right,
we're gonna take a quick break on the Mister Mechanics Show. Five, five,
eight to eleven, tens and numbers to get in and
we're back in a bit. We want to give a
shout out to all of the Mister Mechanic customers that
listened throughout the years, you know, and we appreciate you
(20:58):
calling in, those customers that have become friends over the years,
and those people that just stop in and you know,
get the car fixed and say, hey, I love the show.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So got a couple.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
More this week that stopped in, So I have to
say that I appreciate that. All Right, we're gonna go
head over to Travis Travis Guy's seventy nine f two fifty.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Travis, what's up today?
Speaker 9 (21:18):
Yeah, I've been working on this seventy nine f two fifty.
Put a four sixty in it. It's a four wheel drive,
and the radiators junk and trying to find a decent radiator.
And that's kind of a job, I guess, trying to
figure out which one to get if you guys have
(21:39):
an opinion.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Okay, so where are you looking for parts? I mean,
are you going to a restoration company like LMC no
something like that, or.
Speaker 9 (21:53):
I don't know, I just want to. I mean it
seems like everything I've I've found so far has like
a one year warranty on it, and some of them
went like thirteen hundred dollars for like, yeah, the more
restoration end of it. But I don't really want to.
I don't want a Chinese one either, but maybe that's
all I can get.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah, So how is yours? I mean, what what what's
specifically wrong with yours? Other than it's the tanks leaking
around and it's all rotted in the middle or anything
like that.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm sure it's just loaded up on the inside
because it gets that getting hot.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
It's what it's doing.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Okay, Well, what we have done, what we have done
in the past. If you can't find anything like that,
we have. There are still radiator shops in town, believe
it or not. And uh yeah, they do a lot
of truck, big heavy truck stuff where it costs thousands
of dollars to buy one of those, so they can
still solder off the tanks and solder. You know, buy
(22:41):
a new core and they'll stick it all back together again.
That's expensive, it is, but you know you get to
use you'll get you know America.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
No it fits.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
You know it fits because you took it out, so
you know that it'll it'll go back in exactly like
it went before. Yeah, it's not a cheap process, but
as long as its are okay, they can buy tanks
and everything else. But sometimes that's the only option. And
that's what we've had to do on no hot rods
and things like that where we don't want to head off.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
To Yeah, the thing about customs I mean anymore. I
mean radiators are tough to find, and you get these
old cars because that's still in the copper brass radiator era, right,
And well I know that stuff is.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
I don't have a fan trout because obviously I didn't
have one, and trying to find one for that old truck,
that's correct. That fit is an issue also, So that's
why you got to on the one with an electric
fan possibly so I eliminate that problem.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well, you go over to an electric fan. We've been there,
done that, And you go over to an electric fan,
it will not pull as much air as what you
have already spinning on that truck. So I would go
to if you obviously it's gonna be tough to find,
but if you can find a donor vehicle somewhere, that's
obviously the best way to go. But we've also got
a lot of trucks, especially in the old stuff. When
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we get that in go down to La see Truck
Down in Kansas. They have Ford, Ford, Chevy, Dodge, you
know all that stuff, and Chrysler and you can get
a lot of reproduction stuff down there that that'll work
with what you want.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
Yeah, well that's where I'm at actually in Kansas. So
where's that at k.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, it's called I think it's in Lenexa, Kansas. It's
called LMC truck. They are the people that go to
if you just bought this thing and you're gonna rebuild
it from the ground up. They got everything from nuts
and bolts to box sides, to cabs to.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
You name it. They got.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, we've ordered stuff from them when no part store
has around what we want for something inside of a
steering column or something, they got it. Tail lights, headlights, grills, yeah,
you name it. And they and then get your radiators
and then get you exactly what you want in shrouds.
There's always somebody out there. It's just a matter of
(24:58):
you got a network. Yeah, you just got to figure
out where they're at. But yeah, it's in uh yeah,
l MC truck. Yeah, we've used them many times.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
Okay, but I got an issue with it backfiring when
it's trying to start it. Okay, So, and so I
put a new aluminum intake on it. I put a
which is bigger than it needs to be, a seven
to fifty double pumper Holly brand new Holly on it.
So I don't know if it's getting too much fuel.
(25:29):
And the reason I did that is because all that
needs replaced, and I was trying to get the truck
run and then was going to build another motor and
then put that intake and carburetor on it. You know,
you follow me, sure, So I know it doesn't have
a cam in it, you know, or just a factory cam.
So I don't know what I'm chasing there as far
as that backfire, and it maybe it has like the
(25:49):
old I don't know if the new ones have like
a blowout Valvenum or something that would be replaced because
it's done it numerous times.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So you've backfired a Holly carburetor.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
Yes it's a new one, I mean two years old,
but I don't know if that matters.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Well, generally, if you backfire any kind of carburetor, especially
a Holly, especially, all you pop the power valve and
next thing you know.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's running rich. It is a guarantee, guarantee every time
it back Yeah, if you're loading up on gas and
you shut it down, yeah it'll pop.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So the other ways that The other way that it
pops is that if it's pulling air in through an
exhaust manifold so all that it's getting lit in the
exhaust and that's why it backfires. So sometimes if it
pulls raw oxygen in, you know around let's just say
ahead or pipe or something like that, it that raw
fuel that's going down there is getting lit off. But
(26:42):
when you let off the gas, it's getting oxygen pulled
into there where you shouldn't be, and that's can make
it backfire too. So and this is just is it
backfire normal? Is just you just reving it up when
you let off of it like that.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
Well, I noticed it after it's backfired a couple of times,
it has like it has almost like a dead spot
in it.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
It's a low, very low end.
Speaker 9 (27:04):
Of when you're trying to rev it up, and that's
when it will act. It starts acting funny and then
it'll backfire.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Okay, I would check that power valve.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Power valve be one. Then make sure you're timing is
where it is, because if you're if you're if you're
low on timing, you're having you know, detonation going on,
and that that'll cause a problem to it could.
Speaker 9 (27:22):
Be Okay, they raise the timing a little Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, you raise the timing and lower the idol back down.
You know that that just helps you get more power
out of it and use less fuel on it. Yeah,
there you go. Well, I appreciate the more. Let us
know that was a black blast in the past of
(27:47):
carburetor and timing and adjusting and uh. I was having
a conversation the other day is when I used to
live in California about how we used to do small
tests and.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I've never gotten to do one of those.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
They you couldn't touch the car, they had to bring
it in and he either passed or failed, and that
was either you know, a visual check and then you
had to stick a probe up tailpipe say oh you know, good, bad, failed, whatever.
And if it failed and they had to, you had
to fix it, which basically meant that we had to
d tune the vehicle. And I think I mentioned this
(28:22):
in the past, but you have to d tune the vehicle.
You had to make it run terrible or slow. You'd
back the timing down. You they're just a carburetor almost
to the thing where it was just like, this is terrible.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, it's barely getting any gas.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
And that's what made it run to pass smog. But
you had to have that in order to get your
license to be able to drive. So then they were happy.
And then they drove it down the street and they
come back and say, this doesn't run very good. Yeah,
I know, but that's how you got your smallshert. That's
how you got what you needed. And can you fix this?
I said, I can't fix that today. You'll have to
(28:55):
come back tomorrow. I can't do that all on the
same day. That was part of the law. So you
have to come back tomorrow. And what we do is
by law, you'd sell them a tune up, and then
you sell them a tune up. It'd kind of go
back to where it was.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
A couple of quarter turns here, quarter turn there.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, it was all the finesse of what it took
to make it pass. But you had to do it
legal wise. You couldn't just say okay, pass the thing
and then put it back that. Uh, that just I
don't think it's anymore. No, it isn't like that anymore.
Everything has gotten so electronic.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
And so PERI look at you stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, well they were looking at you. They were looking
at you for back then too. But as long as
you followed the procedure of how it worked, they didn't
have an issue with it. And everybody was doing it.
That wasn't just me. But now things are so precise
that if there's something off like that, but the repair
is much bigger now. So if you got it, for example,
if you got a timing chain that's that's off a
(29:47):
tooth and won't pass and check engine lights on smog test.
I mean back then it was.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Well now I mean the auto manufacturers, I mean now
we have Mode ten involved because of these stay the
emissions laws. So I mean I can plug into a
modern car, I'd say, and let's say twenty nineteen and up,
we'll have mode ten and I can tell you when
the last code set and when it was erased, right,
and that way, you can't just turn off your check
(30:16):
engine light for a perch. So and I drive in
there and get your emissions thing and drive back out.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
You got to fix it, right, And then we were
talking couple hundred bucks back then, you know, And but
now that can turn into thousands, and then tiny chain
has to come down.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, in order to make it run like it is.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
All right, We're gonna take quick break. We'll be right back.
And answered George's question. Be back in a minute. George's
got an eighteen four runner. George, what's up today?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call, guys. I just had
a quick question. I got to on this vehicle when
I break it like highway speeds, like on my right
this would be my right front tire, I get a
little bit of wabble when I do the breaking. Again,
that's only at high speeds. You think I got to
work roader there? Or what's do you think the problem is?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Or a stuck pin? So what happens. So the caliper
slide unpins and those pins when you step on the
on the break, the caliper has to squeeze and then
when you let off of the break, the caliber has
to relax back. So if they don't, if it doesn't
relax back on both sides and it stays stuck on
(31:25):
the bottom pin, that that pad will rub on that rotor.
And as everything expands, the rotor expands, you know, everything
expands the next thing, you know, it'll warp like crazier.
Feel it and may you may not feel it when
it's cold, but you're feeling it whent's warm. So is
(31:45):
that kind of what's going on?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Yeah, it I won't necessarily say, well whether it's warmer,
whether it gets warmer or not. But well, like I said,
it's just it's the highway speeds. You know, it's not
necessarily what it's. Yeah, want to drive slower, but one
of a highway spees and if I have to apply
to break, then I can kind of feel a thing.
You know, it can feel a wabble if you.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Let go your steering wheel. There's a steering wheel shake.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Yeah, yes, it'll roll, wabble just a little bit you
can feel it and through the stirring, through the steering mechanism.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, yeah, take your breaks apart. Yeah, I agree. I
believe that you've got rotors that are worped.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
And uh, but when you want to go through and
do that, you want to make sure you go through
and check the pins on the calipers. It's a big problem.
With all the salt that's down on the road, you
might be able to you know, if the pins are stuck.
You've got to make sure you solve that problem because
if you go through and replace and or just resurface
the rotors, you'll be back into the same situation again
(32:49):
because the pins are stuck.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
And okay, now let me back up on something we
were talking about. The pins. I mean, there's only the
two pins that hold those brakes, the whole pats and
there is that what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
When you take your brake caliper off, there's two bolts
that hold that break cap. Those screws go into the
pins we're talking about, ye slide.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
They go into a cavity inside of the rotor, and
that's what the caliper slides back and forth.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Okay, no, okay, I know what you're talking about, now.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Okay, yeah, and then go ahead.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
So you're saying those pins are kind of getting you
think those pins are getting a little hung up there too.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yep, they can, they can, They most definitely, depending on
how long the brakes are out. And you just we
we just went through winter where we're putting salt down.
It's very, very common. And then the next thing I'm
going to tell you too is you you're dealing with
the front, but this can also happen with the rear.
If the if the rear pins are stuck and not
working very well, you put all of the braking on
(33:57):
the front too rotors and then warp. So I'm not
only were we trying to tell you how to solve
the problem with a front rotors being warped, we're also
trying to tell you to look at the rear so
that you can do this repair once instead of fixing
everything once.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And now it's back.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Why is it back well, because the rears should do
a sixty forty split in braking. Now the rears aren't
doing anything, and now you're doing a ninety ten split,
and that's why you're putting so much pressure on the front.
And you come back with warped rotors again. It's just
it's just something that boy, if we got front brakes
(34:34):
that are bad, we always pull the rears. We always
check to see if the pins are stuck, because I'd say.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Fifty the time they are. Either way, they're getting new
grease
Beat Bob.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
He's a four time tire rotation champion. When he was
a baby, his first words were automatic transmission fluid. Bob's
so cool he has engine coolant running through his veins.
And then there's Kyle, also lit as Premium Unleaded.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Legend has it that Kyle.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Can change your oil with his toes.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And that he can tell your tires all pressure just.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
By how you're walking.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
He's Bob, He's.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Kyle, and every Saturday morning they morphed together to form
the greatest superhero known to man, Mister Mechanic, check eche
and light stop.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Stand a chance.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
This is the Mister Mechanic Show on eleven ten, kfab.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Great Saturday morning to this is a Mister Mechanic Show.
Five five, eight, eleven ten is the numbers to get in.
Get in early so we can get you back to
this gorgeous couple of days we're going to have and
get your car fixed, man, right.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Kyle, Yeah, Yeah, it's the perfect time for it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Got some antique car shows you know out there kind
of they're starting to come around, the starting to come
around those places you just jump into, like on Wednesday,
Thursday nights. Go see people's cars. You get to see
the regulars, you get to see some new people, get
to see some other stuff. So that that kind of
get that car fixed, to get it back out there
because you know, we haven't touched it for a while.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, I know that, I know how that goes. Yeah,
that's for sure. You know, uh.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Cars, I see an article that kind of cars are
starting to upticking price use cars. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
and we're gonna wait for all the terrorists to get
it in effect. I don't think they have. They got
ninety day supply of vehicles, so most people do, and
that's ninety to one hundred day. Chrysler had like two
(01:52):
hundred days there for a while, but I think they
knocked it back and it's kind of been everybody home
for two weeks and now they're back down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So, I mean, it's really kind of a roller coaster
because remember COVID, there was nothing, Yeah, and the market
went crazy through the roof with used cars, and then
it kind of plateaued a little bit, and now we're
going to see another big spike and.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Supply and demand. That's really what it all is about.
You know, it goes anywhere from pancake mix all the
way up to cars, you know, just whatever supplying the man.
But I don't think I think as long as your
supply out there right now, I don't think you've got
to rush out and do it today or next week.
But if you're thinking about a new car or something
on that line, you might want to get in for
(02:33):
it goes up, but you're.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Put it in the books for the next six months.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, yeah, because you get in ninety days for sure,
as you'll usually when they run out of cars and
they're trying to keep that kind of going, So that's
for sure. But prices of used cars, and again if
you're out looking for used cars, great, just do your
due diligence and get it checked out.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
You know. That brings up a and I'm going to
say this before I forget it, but so I got
to visit one of our local pullet yards yesterday and
I was shocked. I didn't get to take a picture
of it cause I didn't have my phone with me,
but there were I counted two cars that still had
good valid in transits on them. Really in the junk yard.
(03:17):
I was like, somebody's gonna take that off of there
and fold it up and try and miss a ticket.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
So they bought it and didn't even make it the
thirty days before it died.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, just you know, I mean these weren't wrecked either.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, so yeah, definitely motor blew up something along that line.
You work too hard for your money, you might as
well spend just a little bit more and have somebody
check it out. And uh, because there's a lot of
cars that are great that we check out, and then
there's a lot of cars that we just we lifted
up and put it back down in about five ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
We say, go find something else. There's some of them
we can't even get up the rock. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, I have put the the hoists through the floor
of a couple of cars and say, well that's that. Yep,
that's that. Now you got something extra. You got air
conditioning in the back seat?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Now? Oh god?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, and some cards we won't lift up in the
air because we're afraid the frame is cracked and that
it needs to go and it's a safety issue. So yeah,
especially in what we call the rust Belt, used to
be up north and it's kind of moved all the
way back down to uh Nebraska, now, so you really
gotta be careful. We're gonna head over to Bob. Bob's
(04:24):
got a twenty twelve f one to fifty Bob. What
is up today?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Hey guys, I got a runaway starter. Okay, I went
out the other night after work start my truck and
the starter engages. It almost catches, and I let off
the key and the starter key's running okay.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Three times, so it's starting and running, but it's just
staying running.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Well, it doesn't. The motor never does catch. The motor don't,
but the starter does.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, okay, so this is how long does the starter
do this? Does it shut off after a certain amount
of time? Yeah? Okay, so that's the starter working normally.
We need to fix why the engine doesn't start, because
once the engine engages, your starter.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Disengages, but the ignition switch and the starter keeps running too.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
So you've either got so you've got the ground is
the ground with which you bolt the the starter to
the engine, and you've got a main power wire and
then you have a s terminal, so you've got to
you've got a wire that's sending signal down there and
that if that's staying on, then that's kind of why
(05:44):
your problem has had that's either shorted against something or
you've got a bad problem in the starter itself.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, either a shortage so anoid or some wires touching
down there.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's that'd be the first place i'd look as a
visual look to see if you see anything that's that's
because every time you start a starter, those there's a
little bit of point, there's a little bit of contact
metal transfer. I guess they used to call it, just
like the old points, if you remember that. And after
a while those that those will make points to the
point where they just don't want to unstick. And when
(06:18):
they don't unstick, that's why I used to file down
your points so that they would work better. The same
kind of principle. You've got two metal tanks that go
in when it gets sucked in and sometimes that electro
magnet is not strong enough to pull it back, and
the spring inside there, that's really what.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
It boils down to it so it stays stuck on.
To test it, there's gonna be a small wire down
there at the starter. There's a big fat battery wire
and there's a small wire. You can just disconnect that
small wire get your test light out, hook it to
that small wire. Have somebody turned the key like they're
cranking it? Do I have power? You're going to because
(06:58):
we know it does get power, keeps cranking and then have
them shut it off. Does your power go away? If
your power goes away, you know that you're shorted in
your solenoid.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Right the power does not go away and stays on
for five seconds, then you've got to look for shorted
wires up against something else going on the way, or
possibly up into the fuse box or relay. That's the
next spot that you're heading towards. It's a too thogh,
it's a twelve twelve fifty. It's not uncommon to have
(07:27):
fusebox problems in this one either.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
So it's it could actually be the starter relay.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It could sure, if you're described, we gotta do the test.
I just said, we got to see are we erasing
power down there when we let the key off?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yes, that's your first that's your first step, all right.
So as soon as you let off the key, that
twelve vote power to that s that tight. That small
wire to the starter should be gone immediately. If it's not.
If it's not gone, immediately. Something is keeping that key
keeping the power going down there on?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
All right?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Any other problems it has besides that.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
It's got a code for oxygen sets or wire okay
on the left bank.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, that's not going to anything. That's something different.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Well, of course, the next day it starts right up
and they'll drive.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
It all mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I think you got to start there first.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I would test that starter, I mean, because I mean
even get down there and hit it with a hammer.
If it's cranking over and cranking over and cranking over,
climb under there and swing a hammer at it.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And does does it stay going for what? Thirty seconds?
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Yeah? Good seconds?
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
And I agree with Kyle. You get you grab a
small starter or small hammer, get underneath her and just
tap on the bottom of that starter and see if
it quits. That'll tell you right there, you gotta stellinoid stuck.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
All right.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
And hammer's a wonderful thing we've got, mister, mechanic hammers
in stocks. Would you want one? Just give us a call.
We'll send one.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Out autographed of course, of course.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
All right, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Thanks for you bet you know, it's uh, it's amazing
what we you just diagnostic tool with a hammer? Oh yeah,
I hit everything with a hammer. Yeah, at least once
to see what happens. But and then you got to
get a little further.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You can't do that with with the with the electronics, Kyle,
That's sure, you can, you bet you can.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
All right, we're gonna take quick break in the mister
Mechanic show five five, eight to eleven, tens and numbers
to get in.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
We'll be back in a minute.
Speaker 6 (09:41):
The Mechanic Joe presents the cheesiest songs of the eighties.
That's right, we're talking the worst, the cheesiest, those songs
you love to hate, just for mechanics. I'm all out
of grease. I'm so dry with out you my pistoon
to dry.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And I really need you, My dear site is low.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I think I need oil. You ruin my car down,
you ignition coil.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Nothing like a little air wrench supply hell, and who
could forget the ball joint boys?
Speaker 7 (10:17):
I ya, I'll rub you who I want to prime
you engine douler, your fluids, Holy if you do.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
It, But your car is dor thing I can do.
Your car is strew and you are it is to
your car is.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
And this hit from Millie Vanilli, who are ironically working
at an actual gas station today. Your tires are low
and your oil shuits.
Speaker 8 (10:49):
Do you really need more transmission flutes?
Speaker 6 (10:52):
Your paul joints broken?
Speaker 9 (10:53):
You're training these downs. You cannot need a car run
out of allud. So here is your bill.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I all I could do for me.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
You know it's true, And even this fantastic hit, no
one even remembers. I already broken on the round ninety.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
That Jo good thing.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I prod a jack. I prod a jack.
Speaker 9 (11:17):
I prod a jack.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
I thought a jack.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Mike gall is broken on the road.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
I need a jogod thing.
Speaker 9 (11:22):
I prod a jack.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
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Speaker 1 (11:24):
HIGH prod a Jack.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
The Mister Mechanic Show presents the cheesiest songs of the
eighties available in a store nowhere near you.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Stop and see us, and uh help you get your
car back on the road, Pop candy cigarette, whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
We're there.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
All right, We're gonna go back over to Travis. Travis
got a ninety f f two fifty. Travis is an
old dog, isn't it.
Speaker 8 (11:47):
Yeah? I put a rebuilt engine put in it by
John wishman runs.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Great.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Problem I'm having is my key's not working. Uh to
the start of so annoid. The wire that there is
not getting its twelve old so I have to jump
right off the battery every time I want to start it.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I know what's wrong with this one.
Speaker 8 (12:08):
And I followed it over to it went over to
the TFI module. It seemed like and uh, I home
checked the wire and the TFI module home check good.
So I put an O'Reilly CFI module in it and
it's still it's not working.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So your your engine doesn't crank.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Right right with the key with the key, but I
can get the crank with the battery.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
So when you put your key in the ignition in
your turn it does it feel really loose and floppy?
Or is it good?
Speaker 8 (12:42):
It could be loose and sloppy. I think it's factory original.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Okay, it is. So on top of your steering column,
where your steering column meets your dash, there's a a
little panel with two Phillips screws on either side of
the steer and column you follow. If you take that
off of there, right down the center of that steering column,
you're going to see a steel rod. You know, just
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a small rod.
Speaker 8 (13:11):
Yeah yeah, Now.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
If you grab that with a pair of needle nose
or something and push that towards the dash, your engine
should crank.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
You think of that rod broke in there.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I know it is. There's a rack and a connecting
piece in there that are made of plastic, and they
from the factory if it is factory original, which I
find hard to believe. As many of these as we replace,
they're still plastic the replacements. But Ford put this grease
in this steering column that just congeals and gets hard
(13:47):
as a rock, hard to turn, and it breaks these
plastic pieces.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Does this car by does this car by chance no
start when it this tilt column?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
It's a tilt yeah, so so maybe.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It doesn't start when you put it all the way up,
but does start when you pull it all the way down.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
We've seen that.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Have you tried that.
Speaker 8 (14:10):
I have not tilted that calling years.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
So put it all the way to the top, see
if it starts. If not, put it all the way
to the bottom and see if it starts. And then
if it does, you know, Kyle's in the right area.
But he's I think he's in the right area anyway,
because it's uh, those those racking everything in there. It
was just yeah, they were all pot metal and they
were crappy. It is uh, if you've not done one,
(14:36):
they're not the go ahead.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
Do they make replacement that still or oh yeah, oh yeah,
yeah you can get them.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
They're what's called a help section part in every automotive
parts store. There's that whole wall of blister packs that
say help on them. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Go to Google and type in ignition rack assembly on uh,
you know, and you'll find steering column ignition rack assembly
and you'll find what you're looking for. You see pictures
that way, you know what you're looking for.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And if you've never done one, it can be a
very intimidating job. Yeah, there's a lot that has to
go on in there, and it all comes apart as one.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Piece, but there's always a lot that goes on inside
of pulling down a steering column, especially that one.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, especially that one. Yeah, but yeah, it can be
if you've never done one, it can be very intimidating.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
So I don't think I'll have any problems.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Sure now And they've gotten rid of that particular system.
They moved on to one that is h oh equally
as bad.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, yeah, but it's easier to fix.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
How's that?
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Yeah, well that don't help me in my term.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Now I think we're in the right spot.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, Like like Kyle says, if you can push that down,
I don't think you're getting the ignition switch.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You're not.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
The rod is not pushing the ignition switch all the
way to the starter portion. I think that's that's where
we're heading towards.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
All right, all right, you.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
Bet any more problems?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Got this call? Appreciate Travis yep. Appreciate the call. Gosh,
what was it like two or three years ago? Like
one week, I did four of those and I was like, finally,
like the second one, I was like, where are these
trucks coming from? Like I hadn't done one in probably
twelve years, thirteen years prior to that, and then I
(16:32):
get three four in a week.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Isn't that funny? Sometimes we'll get that kind of thing.
It's like, where where have the's been in the last
six months or eight months? Next thing, you know, yeah,
you get the same car in same color. We had
a car in the same color, same car, almost the
same year, with the repair the other day in two
bays like well, what's wrong with that car?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Same thing? Yeah, mix them up. You got new brakes,
but you won't start. Yeah, it's amazing how that happens.
And and.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, and then they went into the two thousands and
that turned into a rod and rack and not a
rack but a kind of a post, and it turned
into a different column kind of thing, which is much
They still wear out pretty good, but they it's.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Those focuses and the escapes and everything with that whole
l shape, ignition lock housing that.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
They're just me ors. It seemed like Ford has a
continually run of a problem with that.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yes, yeah, yeah they I thought that too. I don't
know what's worse that or the engine. Well we love them, yeah,
we love them because they keep us in business. I mean,
if everything didn't break, we wouldn't know what to do,
because you know, it's just what we do. We fixed
broke things. That's part of what it is.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Here's an interesting article, Kyle. I did not realize and
I know the suburban and that's suburban has been around
for ninety years, started in nineteen twenty or nineteen thirty five.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Were they actually calling at the suburban therese? I know,
like the ad years. It was a suburban.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It started off as Chevy truck and then it kind
of went to suburban, but the name plate was kind
of suburban. Kind of got fixed in then nineteen thirty five,
so from then and it just kind of went from
there from all the deliveries and then they started kind
of two wheel drives, and then Napco came along and
(18:33):
made it into four wheel drive.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And then that's because somebody, You don't see many of
them like suburban, like vintage suburbans. No, No, I've scoured
junk yards for twenty years, and no, there are aren't
out there.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
No they are, And a lot of them were the
old sedan deliveries that just had the door open on
the on the on the curb side so you could
get stuff in and out. And but you know, it's interesting,
there's only a few name plates out there that have
been around that kind of long. You know, we've talked
about total Corolla being one worldwide that's been around for
(19:11):
a long time. In ninety years is pretty good for
just the suburban nameplate.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, it started out as a little small truck the
size of a Corolla. Yeah, I look where they're at now. Yeah,
big as a school bus and probably seeks as many people.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Hell yeah, and the luxurious as they are now they
ride and there's so much smoother. Every year, it seems
like they get a little bit of a little bit better.
It's like, what are they holding back?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
You know what? That's thing Like I was thinking the
other day because I was in the middle of a class,
and I'm like, you know, cause we do so many
classes a year to keep up on everything. And so
I was talking to a buddy of mine that's seventy seven.
Now it's been a mechanic his whole life, and so yeah,
you I mean we used to you know, back in
the seventies and eighties. I mean they have like maybe
(20:04):
one class a year or something. Because when you think
about it, I mean back then, moving up to where
we're at now, I mean, things didn't happen fast. I mean, no,
you had points and then it switched to electronic ignition
cool twelve thirteen years later, let's do away with carburetors,
or let's make carburetors electronic, and then let's do it. Yeah,
(20:27):
they tried to save that. You know, this was over
the course of decades and now, I mean things change
by the minute if you watch close.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, we were exponentially faster now in a year's time.
Used to take ten years, especially in the car. All Right,
we're gonna take a quick break on the Mister Mechanics Show. Five, five,
eight to eleven, tens and numbers to get in and
we're back in a bit. We want to give a
shout out to all of the Mister Mechanic customers that
listened throughout the years, you know, and we appreciate you
(20:58):
calling in, those customers that have become friends over the years,
and those people that just stop in and you know,
get the car fixed and say, hey, I love the show.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
So got a couple.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
More this week that stopped in, So I have to
say that I appreciate that. All Right, we're gonna go
head over to Travis Travis Guy's seventy nine f two fifty.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Travis, what's up today?
Speaker 9 (21:18):
Yeah, I've been working on this seventy nine f two fifty.
Put a four sixty in it. It's a four wheel drive,
and the radiators junk and trying to find a decent radiator.
And that's kind of a job, I guess, trying to
figure out which one to get if you guys have
(21:39):
an opinion.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Okay, so where are you looking for parts? I mean,
are you going to a restoration company like LMC no
something like that, or.
Speaker 9 (21:53):
I don't know, I just want to. I mean it
seems like everything I've I've found so far has like
a one year warranty on it, and some of them
went like thirteen hundred dollars for like, yeah, the more
restoration end of it. But I don't really want to.
I don't want a Chinese one either, but maybe that's
all I can get.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah, So how is yours? I mean, what what what's
specifically wrong with yours? Other than it's the tanks leaking
around and it's all rotted in the middle or anything
like that.
Speaker 9 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm sure it's just loaded up on the inside
because it gets that getting hot.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
It's what it's doing.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Okay, Well, what we have done, what we have done
in the past. If you can't find anything like that,
we have. There are still radiator shops in town, believe
it or not. And uh yeah, they do a lot
of truck, big heavy truck stuff where it costs thousands
of dollars to buy one of those, so they can
still solder off the tanks and solder. You know, buy
(22:41):
a new core and they'll stick it all back together again.
That's expensive, it is, but you know you get to
use you'll get you know America.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
No it fits.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
You know it fits because you took it out, so
you know that it'll it'll go back in exactly like
it went before. Yeah, it's not a cheap process, but
as long as its are okay, they can buy tanks
and everything else. But sometimes that's the only option. And
that's what we've had to do on no hot rods
and things like that where we don't want to head off.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
To Yeah, the thing about customs I mean anymore. I
mean radiators are tough to find, and you get these
old cars because that's still in the copper brass radiator era, right,
And well I know that stuff is.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
I don't have a fan trout because obviously I didn't
have one, and trying to find one for that old truck,
that's correct. That fit is an issue also, So that's
why you got to on the one with an electric
fan possibly so I eliminate that problem.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well, you go over to an electric fan. We've been there,
done that, And you go over to an electric fan,
it will not pull as much air as what you
have already spinning on that truck. So I would go
to if you obviously it's gonna be tough to find,
but if you can find a donor vehicle somewhere, that's
obviously the best way to go. But we've also got
a lot of trucks, especially in the old stuff. When
(23:58):
we get that in go down to La see Truck
Down in Kansas. They have Ford, Ford, Chevy, Dodge, you
know all that stuff, and Chrysler and you can get
a lot of reproduction stuff down there that that'll work
with what you want.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
Yeah, well that's where I'm at actually in Kansas. So
where's that at k.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah, it's called I think it's in Lenexa, Kansas. It's
called LMC truck. They are the people that go to
if you just bought this thing and you're gonna rebuild
it from the ground up. They got everything from nuts
and bolts to box sides, to cabs to.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
You name it. They got.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, we've ordered stuff from them when no part store
has around what we want for something inside of a
steering column or something, they got it. Tail lights, headlights, grills, yeah,
you name it. And they and then get your radiators
and then get you exactly what you want in shrouds.
There's always somebody out there. It's just a matter of
(24:58):
you got a network. Yeah, you just got to figure
out where they're at. But yeah, it's in uh yeah,
l MC truck. Yeah, we've used them many times.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
Okay, but I got an issue with it backfiring when
it's trying to start it. Okay, So, and so I
put a new aluminum intake on it. I put a
which is bigger than it needs to be, a seven
to fifty double pumper Holly brand new Holly on it.
So I don't know if it's getting too much fuel.
(25:29):
And the reason I did that is because all that
needs replaced, and I was trying to get the truck
run and then was going to build another motor and
then put that intake and carburetor on it. You know,
you follow me, sure, So I know it doesn't have
a cam in it, you know, or just a factory cam.
So I don't know what I'm chasing there as far
as that backfire, and it maybe it has like the
(25:49):
old I don't know if the new ones have like
a blowout Valvenum or something that would be replaced because
it's done it numerous times.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So you've backfired a Holly carburetor.
Speaker 9 (25:58):
Yes it's a new one, I mean two years old,
but I don't know if that matters.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Well, generally, if you backfire any kind of carburetor, especially
a Holly, especially, all you pop the power valve and
next thing you know.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's running rich. It is a guarantee, guarantee every time
it back Yeah, if you're loading up on gas and
you shut it down, yeah it'll pop.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So the other ways that The other way that it
pops is that if it's pulling air in through an
exhaust manifold so all that it's getting lit in the
exhaust and that's why it backfires. So sometimes if it
pulls raw oxygen in, you know around let's just say
ahead or pipe or something like that, it that raw
fuel that's going down there is getting lit off. But
(26:42):
when you let off the gas, it's getting oxygen pulled
into there where you shouldn't be, and that's can make
it backfire too. So and this is just is it
backfire normal? Is just you just reving it up when
you let off of it like that.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
Well, I noticed it after it's backfired a couple of times,
it has like it has almost like a dead spot
in it.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
It's a low, very low end.
Speaker 9 (27:04):
Of when you're trying to rev it up, and that's
when it will act. It starts acting funny and then
it'll backfire.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Okay, I would check that power valve.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Power valve be one. Then make sure you're timing is
where it is, because if you're if you're if you're
low on timing, you're having you know, detonation going on,
and that that'll cause a problem to it could.
Speaker 9 (27:22):
Be Okay, they raise the timing a little Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, you raise the timing and lower the idol back down.
You know that that just helps you get more power
out of it and use less fuel on it. Yeah,
there you go. Well, I appreciate the more. Let us
know that was a black blast in the past of
(27:47):
carburetor and timing and adjusting and uh. I was having
a conversation the other day is when I used to
live in California about how we used to do small
tests and.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I've never gotten to do one of those.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
They you couldn't touch the car, they had to bring
it in and he either passed or failed, and that
was either you know, a visual check and then you
had to stick a probe up tailpipe say oh you know, good, bad, failed, whatever.
And if it failed and they had to, you had
to fix it, which basically meant that we had to
d tune the vehicle. And I think I mentioned this
(28:22):
in the past, but you have to d tune the vehicle.
You had to make it run terrible or slow. You'd
back the timing down. You they're just a carburetor almost
to the thing where it was just like, this is terrible.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, it's barely getting any gas.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
And that's what made it run to pass smog. But
you had to have that in order to get your
license to be able to drive. So then they were happy.
And then they drove it down the street and they
come back and say, this doesn't run very good. Yeah,
I know, but that's how you got your smallshert. That's
how you got what you needed. And can you fix this?
I said, I can't fix that today. You'll have to
(28:55):
come back tomorrow. I can't do that all on the
same day. That was part of the law. So you
have to come back tomorrow. And what we do is
by law, you'd sell them a tune up, and then
you sell them a tune up. It'd kind of go
back to where it was.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
A couple of quarter turns here, quarter turn there.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Yeah, it was all the finesse of what it took
to make it pass. But you had to do it
legal wise. You couldn't just say okay, pass the thing
and then put it back that. Uh, that just I
don't think it's anymore. No, it isn't like that anymore.
Everything has gotten so electronic.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
And so PERI look at you stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, well they were looking at you. They were looking
at you for back then too. But as long as
you followed the procedure of how it worked, they didn't
have an issue with it. And everybody was doing it.
That wasn't just me. But now things are so precise
that if there's something off like that, but the repair
is much bigger now. So if you got it, for example,
if you got a timing chain that's that's off a
(29:47):
tooth and won't pass and check engine lights on smog test.
I mean back then it was.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Well now I mean the auto manufacturers, I mean now
we have Mode ten involved because of these stay the
emissions laws. So I mean I can plug into a
modern car, I'd say, and let's say twenty nineteen and up,
we'll have mode ten and I can tell you when
the last code set and when it was erased, right,
and that way, you can't just turn off your check
(30:16):
engine light for a perch. So and I drive in
there and get your emissions thing and drive back out.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
You got to fix it, right, And then we were
talking couple hundred bucks back then, you know, And but
now that can turn into thousands, and then tiny chain
has to come down.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, in order to make it run like it is.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
All right, We're gonna take quick break. We'll be right back.
And answered George's question. Be back in a minute. George's
got an eighteen four runner. George, what's up today?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call, guys. I just had
a quick question. I got to on this vehicle when
I break it like highway speeds, like on my right
this would be my right front tire, I get a
little bit of wabble when I do the breaking. Again,
that's only at high speeds. You think I got to
work roader there? Or what's do you think the problem is?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Or a stuck pin? So what happens. So the caliper
slide unpins and those pins when you step on the
on the break, the caliper has to squeeze and then
when you let off of the break, the caliber has
to relax back. So if they don't, if it doesn't
relax back on both sides and it stays stuck on
(31:25):
the bottom pin, that that pad will rub on that rotor.
And as everything expands, the rotor expands, you know, everything
expands the next thing, you know, it'll warp like crazier.
Feel it and may you may not feel it when
it's cold, but you're feeling it whent's warm. So is
(31:45):
that kind of what's going on?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
Yeah, it I won't necessarily say, well whether it's warmer,
whether it gets warmer or not. But well, like I said,
it's just it's the highway speeds. You know, it's not
necessarily what it's. Yeah, want to drive slower, but one
of a highway spees and if I have to apply
to break, then I can kind of feel a thing.
You know, it can feel a wabble if you.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Let go your steering wheel. There's a steering wheel shake.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Yeah, yes, it'll roll, wabble just a little bit you
can feel it and through the stirring, through the steering mechanism.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, yeah, take your breaks apart. Yeah, I agree. I
believe that you've got rotors that are worped.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I really do.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
And uh, but when you want to go through and
do that, you want to make sure you go through
and check the pins on the calipers. It's a big problem.
With all the salt that's down on the road, you
might be able to you know, if the pins are stuck.
You've got to make sure you solve that problem because
if you go through and replace and or just resurface
the rotors, you'll be back into the same situation again
(32:49):
because the pins are stuck.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
And okay, now let me back up on something we
were talking about. The pins. I mean, there's only the
two pins that hold those brakes, the whole pats and
there is that what you're talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
When you take your brake caliper off, there's two bolts
that hold that break cap. Those screws go into the
pins we're talking about, ye slide.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
They go into a cavity inside of the rotor, and
that's what the caliper slides back and forth.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Okay, no, okay, I know what you're talking about, now.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Okay, yeah, and then go ahead.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
So you're saying those pins are kind of getting you
think those pins are getting a little hung up there too.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yep, they can, they can, They most definitely, depending on
how long the brakes are out. And you just we
we just went through winter where we're putting salt down.
It's very, very common. And then the next thing I'm
going to tell you too is you you're dealing with
the front, but this can also happen with the rear.
If the if the rear pins are stuck and not
working very well, you put all of the braking on
(33:57):
the front too rotors and then warp. So I'm not
only were we trying to tell you how to solve
the problem with a front rotors being warped, we're also
trying to tell you to look at the rear so
that you can do this repair once instead of fixing
everything once.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
And now it's back.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Why is it back well, because the rears should do
a sixty forty split in braking. Now the rears aren't
doing anything, and now you're doing a ninety ten split,
and that's why you're putting so much pressure on the front.
And you come back with warped rotors again. It's just
it's just something that boy, if we got front brakes
(34:34):
that are bad, we always pull the rears. We always
check to see if the pins are stuck, because I'd say.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Fifty the time they are. Either way, they're getting new
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