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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Meat Bob.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
He's a four time tire rotation champion. When he was
a baby, his first words were automatic transmission fluid. Bob's
so cool he has engine coolant running through his veins.
And then there's Kyle, also known as Premium un Leaden.
Legend has it that Kyle can change your oil with
his toes, and that he can tell your tires ill
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pressure just.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
By how you're walking.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He's Bob, He's Kyle, and every Saturday morning they morphed
together to form the greatest superhero known to man. Mister
Mechanic check engine lights, don't stand a chance. This is
the Mister Mechanic Show. On eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Great Saturday morning to Yeah, this is the Mister Mechanic Show.
Uh five five, eight to eleven tens the numbers to
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or just catching I saw on the radio driving through town.
You asked the questions, We'll give you some answers, give
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got you stumped? You know something you're just not sure.
You pretty much sure you got it solved, but I
need a second opinion in order to know if I
should go spend five hundred dollars at the part store.
We can help you. We can do that where you
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we do breaks right the first time. So stop in
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see us. We'll get you back on the road and
ninety nine percent of the time in one day. Joining
me as always is Kyle. Good morning, Kyle, good morning.
You had to get in a finishing up a week
off of work. What projects have you done at home? Everything?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Got all your cars fixed?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Nope? No, okay, believe it or not. And you'll be
surprised at this. I got rid of a bunch of
carburetors this week. And generators really yeah, wow, boy, four
or five milk crate's worth of them.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know anybody that hasn't worked on carbuators carbators back
in the old days. When I say old days were
like twenties and thirties and single barrels and things. Yeah,
and they were simple. They just were simple. You popped
them off, you adjusted a float, the you know, you
did this, you did that, you put them back on.
They ran, and you didn't have much problems when you
started getting to the two barrels. Oh, you know, they
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same thing, but they you know, they always ran when
you got done. There was never major problems. And as
soon as you hit emission controls and everything else in
the eighties, now we got a problem. Now you got
a problem. We could still overhaul them. It's just that
everything was it just either turned out great or didn't
turn out good at all. Yeah, there was no rhyme
or reason to it. It was just a crap inside that
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you couldn't get out.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Luckily, I never got involved in that era of carb raiders.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, because I did. And it was just a.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Good thing about them because they were all rot quadrijets
or something like that. You could just take it off
of there and pitch it over on the bench and
put an old mechanical one on there, and you were good.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Mm hmm, you're right, you're right. And it was just
you know, I used to have an old truck just
like you did, and or had it, and it was
just it was a one barrel carburetor. You put it
on there, it ran like a sewing machine. Yeah, there
was nothing to it, nothing to it, but it would,
it would. Just It was amazing just how well things
are built back in the day and today we can't
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even get the right oil in certain vehicles and Chevrolet,
you know, bearing problems and this and that and the other.
I mean, we've had one hundred years of figuring it
out and we're still somehow screwing it up. I don't
get that either.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean they put a lot
of thought into just the push rod V eight. I mean,
it's not a complicated process to make them run because
Chevrolet has been doing it for a hundred years. For
it's been doing it for a hundred years. Yeah, we've
all been they've all been doing it. Yeah, why not
just keep it simple.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I just always say that one engineer retires and the
next one has to come along and make it just
a little better, because he can't say, well that guy
did great, let's just leave it that way. No, we
got a change it somehow. No credit due, that's for sure,
you know. Something speaking and why we're talking about General
motors in there and their engine problems with they're gonna
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gets recalls and they can get that straightened out after.
I think it's I think it affects. I was looking
at their initial estimates where eight hundred thousand. I think
it's more down to six hundred thousand now. And from
what I have read up on it, it's either going
to get a new engine. That's six to two in
that Chevrolet from like twenty one to twenty four. They
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determine you need a new engine, you'll get a new engine.
Otherwise if they don't, they'll change the oil to heavier
weight and give you Tentatively, This is just tentatively. You
have to wait and see what really comes out as
a ten year, one hundred fifty thousand miles warranty sure
on that engine, which is.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You said that recall was eight hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Eight hundred thousand engines. Oh, eight hundred thousand engines. Yeah,
and I think they've downgraded that to six hundred thousand.
It's a lot of engines, a lot of engines in
retrospect to it. It had the same problem album when they
brought out their new twin turbo V six and they
had a problem with engines. But they caught it in
time and they only had to do one hundred thousand replacements, sure,
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which is still it's.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
A lot, but it's a lot of the grand scheme
of how many cars I got on the road. I mean, yeah,
that's one month of car payments throughout the board, and yeah,
you're done.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I watched a toad to tear down replacing one of
these engines, and what they did was they just replaced
the short block and then put everything back together. And
it looks like a bomb exploded when they take this
entire truck apart. Oh yeah, and the whole shop is
filled with pieces of parts. We've all been everywhere, so.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Somebody walks in that's kind of on the edge of
knowing a little bit of something or like, what the
heck happened here. It's part of being a mechanic.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, And then when you put down the twin turbo
on stuff, you just add more tubes and lines and
you just you just double the amount of busyness. Busyness
as to say crap, but busy ess seeing stuff and
you know it's something that's new and we'll have to
wait and kind of see how this works out. You
know since we're on the engine talk, Chrysler has come
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out with a new Hurricane engine and this Hurricane engine
coming out in the new Dodges and we don't know
much about them other than they just kind of come out.
They're made in Mexico, which is not either good or bad,
but it just that's where it's made. It's an inline
straight six twin turbo engine gas yas it's supposed to
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replace for a lot of the HEMI people, hemmy owners
out there. It's going to replace that that V eight, Okay,
And it is like I said, inline six cylinder twin
turbo five hundred and forty horsepower, pretty good, not bad.
That's for the high output. Now the standard output is
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going to be four.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
To twenty still not bad for a six bang.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
No, And if they if they engineered it correctly, those
six cylinders are just six cylinders along the line of
anybody that makes them, has made them for the last
one hundred years. Are very very durable engines. Oh yeah,
because they're in line. They just have a lot less
stresses going on than the V eight's do. And uh
hopefully they.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Is there naturally. Yes, they're a huge powerhouse as far.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
As torque, They run smooth, the the the all the
things that are trying to tear a V eight apart
are not there on a six cylinder. And the four cylinder.
It seems like you're always we needed to put a
four cylinder in a car. It seems like you're always
got your foot to the floor doing anything.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah, you know, we have a couple four cylinder ram trucks.
They're six cylinder ram trucks. I'm sorry, Oh my god,
who test drove this. I thought that this was a
good I mean for like landscaping or something at a park.
I mean, sure, probably. Well they're cheap, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
And the only reason they throw it in there because
a cafe is cafe mileage. That's the only reason you
threw it in there. And uh, but it's gonna be
kind of interesting, you know, the the five forty out
of a six cylinder twin turbo. But then again, remember
here again is what I just mentioned. You got twin turbos,
more lines, more stuff, more crap to.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Go bad, and now you got two of them on
a six cylinder.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, gotta be.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
But here's ago everybody had a six cylinder m you know,
Chrysler had the four Leader through the two thousands early
two thousands, and I don't. I mean they got rid
of them for you know, safety reasons, you know, to
have a bigger crush zone on the car right crash purposes.
But right now we're going back. Yeah, so are they
going to stuff this thing further back and take away firewall?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I haven't seen one yet. I just happened to run
across one I have. I have a friend that bought one,
and uh because you know, he had to have more
horsepower than I did, so he did it. So so
you're saying you need a turbo. Yeah, you know, I
could probably put a supercharger on mine and go, but uh,
well I got It's that's after the warranty runs out. Well,
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what to see about the engine thing? Because I'm caught
up on that engine.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I think a little busy this afternoon, but tomorrow sounds beautiful.
We'll see what We'll get it on there. Let's see
what we can do.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, here's an article I ran across to Cadillac is
going to get into the F one Racing series.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Uh Deville or something.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
We don't know what's gonna be. But you know a
lot of you know it's gonna be a Cadillac backed
a Formula One racing team probably next year. It's just
their entry into Formula one, and a lot of people
have been there's a lot of the high high end people,
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you know for our corsia.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Cadillac hasn't really had a name in racing since the
fifties probably.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, or back in the thirties for sure.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
And everybody was taken when the fifty nine Cadillac ambulance
came out. It had a five hundred this is interesting fact,
five hundred cubic engine and all the race car guys
and moonshine guys wanted them. And Junior Johnson I was
reading an interview with him how he got his first
five hundred Cadillac. They had an ambulance like two towns
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down from him, and him and his brother would and
rob the engine out one night.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Which you could back in those days. It only took
to three four hours to get it out.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah and yeah. Anyway, he went on to win plenty
of races, NASCAR Hall of Fame, good guy.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, yeah, and Cadillac is also developing a a Bentley
Rolls Royce kind of car. Okay, it's going to be
somewhere in the neighborhood of three hundred and three hundred
and fifty thousand dollars. So it's going to and it's
not out anywhere you can look at. You can only
see some pictures, but it's in development of doing something
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like that, so it's it's going to be an ultra
luxury kind of car. So that's kind of be interesting
to see how it is. You don't build very many
don't sell bring me So all right, we're gonna take
quick break on the mister mechanics show. Five five, eight
to eleven ten is the numbers to get him. We
got some open lines the way back in a minute.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
This goes out to my mechanic steeve. I've got you
under my engine. I've got you.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Fixing my car again, so deep in my car that
you're really a part of it. I've got you.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Under my engine.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
I try to fix it myself, I would say to
my wife, back off, I know what I'm doing here,
but now I can't take any more of that nagging.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
In my ears, and well stop.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
So now I've got you under my engine. I sacrificed
everything in savings for the sake of doing it myself
in spite of that nagging voice that would come from
my wife telling me to go to hell.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Don't you know me? Can you always win? It's anacuality, Yes, sir,
you have the finality. So each time I Papa Hood,
I think of you, and I stopped just.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Before I begin because I've got you.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yes, I've got you.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
For a hefty price under my engine.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Actually it's not too bad.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, get you back on the road. Fixing that car.
We're gonna head over to Bob. Bob's got a twenty
seventeen f one fifty Bob, what's up today?
Speaker 8 (13:08):
So on the the Instagram cluster, you got the thing
that you can change the mileage and all that other stuff,
right right, So what's what's happening is it just started.
Every time I start the car now it goes to
trailer mode, and I have to put it all back
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to where I had it on before, and I don't
know how to change it back so that it stays on.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Where it was.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Okay, So trailer mode would kind of lead me to
believe that it's got a trailer hooked to it, or
it thinks it does, and it's initializing the trailer breaks
or anything like that. Do you have anything aftermarket plugged
into your trailer harness like a light can anything? Nothing
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like that.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Sitting overnight didn't solve the problems. It's just every time
you get in.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's every time I.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Turn it off, like I can. I can turn it
off A two minutes later, I started back up, and
it's it's on trailer mode.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
That is interesting. The first thing that I would probably
I had the same kind of thing happened in a
Chevrolet where I hooked a trailer, towed a trailer, and
once I unhooked it, it's still thought. It still thought
it was back there and the lights were out. So
I just let it sit for eight hours, and all
of a sudden it just reverted back to and figured
it out by itself. But the other thing that I
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was going to do if it didn't solve itself, was
to disconnect the negative battery cable and let that sit
for about ten minutes and let it resink itself. Okay,
but basically you're down to you're gonna have something that's
going to go through a module more than likely in
order to sit that to the dash. I don't think
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you got a dash problem. We'd have to look a
little more into that. That's kind of an odd thing
to happen. But there's something that that goes through probably
to a module to the rear tail lights that says okay,
this is what that is and where it goes to
and then and then it just reports to the to
the instrument panel cluster. And there is a possibility to
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you have something in the in the panel cluster that's bad.
But I would have to not that's not a common thing.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
I talked to the guys at Forward and they said, oh,
it's two hundred dollars to look at it. It's two hundred
dollars to to uh, and it sounds like a software issue.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
We have to update your software or something. I go,
you got to be freaking kidding me.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I was just going to say that that there was
going to be a software update to that something along
that particular line where they have come out with something new,
and it's it's almost like your phone after so many years,
your phone will stop accepting the app apps because then
it doesn't work with the new stuff that's coming out.
That's not uncommon for that, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Because when you think about it, I mean that screen
on your car. I mean when you sink your phone
to it, it's not actually talking to your phone, it's
talking to a module network center somewhere. I mean it
works on the same lines as you know, a telephone service,
would you know? So yeah, I mean, software updates can occur.
But I think before I did anything, I would disconnect
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that battery.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
See if it goes I'd be the first. That'd be
the first thing that I would do. And I think, uh,
and I'm just I think about this because we haven't
really run across this particular portion of even though we've
run across a lot of goofy things. The first thing
I'm doing is disconnecting the battery. The second thing I'm
doing is just kind of what he mentioned was, uh,
take it in and see if there's a software upgrade
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that can alleviate that particular problem, because it may be
just that and then that that's all it needs, because
it just needs to move to the next generation of thinking.
For the most part.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
It's but it's not worth four hundred dollars for me
to do that. Okay, Okay, it's it doesn't stop the
car from running.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Sure, you're right, You're right, there's a certain threshold if
I ain't doing it, and you know, if that's your threshold, great,
Then there are other people that say, I don't care
if it's a thousand bucks, I want that gone.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Yea, So, well, is there a way to upgrade the
software by myself?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Not without that, you're gonna need a lot. You're going
to spend more than four hundred dollars in equipment to
do so.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah. So you have to have a scan tool capable
in order to put it in there, and then you've
got to get a subscription from Ford and then yes,
you can download it, but sometimes it doesn't always take
the first time, so you and then the car won't run,
so you got to redo it again. No, it's worth
every bit of the money of four hundred bucks to
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have them do it, if that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
It's just the just the interface box to be able
to talk to this car. Are in a sense of
programming it. You're going to spend five thousand dollars on
that tool alone.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, it's not worth it.
Speaker 9 (18:06):
Well yeah, okay, because because here's the other thing about
this car. So it can connect to the internet, right,
So it's got a Wi Fi connection to my to
my rout at home. Yeah, why wouldn't they set it
up so that they could download it.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
That way so they could make four hundred bucks off you.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Some do, Yeah, I know some some do. I don't
know that you're seventeen does, but there's a lot of
I've got a newer Chevrolet and it will download and
can download through the Wi Fi as I park it
at night and you wake up in the morning and
things have changed. Yeah, yeah, you can download new things
into the vehicle, So that is coming. That's not that
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that's a thing, but it's just more in the upper
scale cars and upper vehicles you can do that with.
It's starting to trickle down to the to the normal cars.
It just hasn't got completely there yet. Okay, Tesla does it?
You park your Tesla in the dry and the garage
and it has an update. Come back out next morning.
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It's been updated over the over the airwaves. It's it's coming.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Well, Tesla's just a phone on wheels, Yeah kind of,
you're right.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Okay, if you.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Get it solved, Well, if you get it solved, let
us know. We'd be interested in what solves your problem.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Yeah, I'll just connect the battery how long should I
keep it unplugged?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
By? Ten?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Ten minutes, ten minutes playing?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, yeah, okay, appreciate the call, Bob, Thanks you bet
all right, We're gonna take a quick break in the
Mister Mechanics show five, five, eight, eleven, tens of numbers
to get in. We got smoking lines back in a minute.
Troy's got a nineteen equinox. Troy's what's up today?
Speaker 10 (19:51):
Good morning guys, love yourself. Thank hey, got two questions
for you twenty nineteen equinox. My mom is my mom's
car chi We discovered that it's in teenage driver mode,
but you have to have a pin number. They bought
this car used. Are think you have to go somewhere
to get that cleared out through a computer.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Teenage driver mode?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yes, yes, yeah, okay, yeah you are. You might try
to You might try to hold the battery cables together
to see if it does that. However, I just I
don't think that'll work.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Can you get to where you can enter the code
like in a display screen? Yes, okay, you should be
able to it's called like a skim code or something
like that, and you should be able to call the
parts department at the dealership, give them your VEN number
and ask for that code, and they'll generally give it
to you.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They'll probably going to want documentation to Maybe you might
have to go in and show them your registration and yeah,
actually own the car. Yes, yes, that you actually won't
make keys or anything that sensitive MATERI without seeing your
driver's license, your registration and then you actually own the car.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
Okay, So the question one question off of that question.
I called our local dealership and they wouldn't help me
because we didn't buy it there. Do you think, with
that in mind, should I try our local dealership or.
Speaker 11 (21:18):
Do I have to go back to where we bought it?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
They either didn't know.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Well, I mean, you should be able to call it
like the GM help line, and they should be able
to get you to somebody that can.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
If you could easily go back to where the car
was bought, that might be a better way to go. Yeah,
that might just eliminate everything else. But if not, I
agree with Kyle, you might be able to go to
a GM help line and they can say, uh, just
how do I alleviate this problem? This is I'm the
second owner. I need to take this off. But don't
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know really where to how and to turn. And I
bet you they can help you to that too.
Speaker 10 (21:59):
Okay, all right, Hey, my second question is kind of
a weird one, but like old gas, what do you
do you guys have any recommendations so like ice, grap stuff,
while you can get lawnmowers and all that kind of stuff,
and sometimes it comes of gas. My local fire department
used to take it and like they would burn it
for like like fire excuage or training and stuff. They
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don't do that anymore. I want to try to be
responsible with it. Do you guys have any suggestions on what.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I can do with that bring into the station?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah? Yeah, we do old gas all the time, old oil,
you know, and or freeze. We do all that kind
of stuff for people that want to to recycle it.
You should be able to go to And I'm not
one hundred percent sure any you know, fast lube, Jiffy
lube kind of thing to do that too. I don't
know if they take it. We've always just kind of
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always done it because we're neighborhood stations and we do
it for everybody in the neighborhood. But we'll do it
for anybody.
Speaker 10 (22:52):
Okay, perfect, all righty, Thanks guys. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
You beat appreciate the call. All Right, we're gonna hell
over to Jeff. Jeff's got a seventy f one fifty Jeff,
what is up today? You got to the same problem.
Speaker 11 (23:04):
Yeah, we have a converter shutter issue chick up. I
bought first fare I really like to pick up. But
have you guys run into that issue.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Kind of like a shutter kind of when you're taking
off from a stop.
Speaker 11 (23:20):
Or Yeah, there's a lot of on the internet about
it's like running over rumble bars on a highway.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
Okay, it's usually at speed.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Sure, So I mean when we can kind of rule
out a misfire. Do you have any check engine lights
or anything?
Speaker 11 (23:37):
Nope, been through all that.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Okay, Has the transmission been serviced in this truck?
Speaker 11 (23:43):
No, it's a huge pickup that I just bought, and
from what I've seen on the internet there they have
tons of issues with them.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Sure, right, one.
Speaker 11 (23:54):
Hundred and fifty five thousand.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Okay, So we're getting up there in Nileedge. Well, I mean,
the first thing we're going to do is take the
pan down kind of look at the bottom of it,
see what's in there if it's you know something, do
we want to pull out the solenoid. Test the torqunverter,
lock up solinoid on the bench, see if that's working.
Maybe it's got crud in it.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
That's more Unluckly, where your shutter's coming from is it's
kind of it's coming from the torquenverter coming in and out.
But if you pull the pan like Kyle's suggesting, you
see just how much materials in the bottom of this pan.
You can you can always save the fluid and pour
the fluid back in and say, I'm just gonna deal
with the shutter because the amount of crap it's in
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the bottom of this pan. As soon as I exchange
all the fluid, I know it's going to go bad.
I'm gonna be putting a new transmission in it. So
then you just pour all the old fluid back in
and say I'm just gonna live with it until it
goes out. Or it could be the other way around.
It could be nice and clean and everything's inside there
is great. So the next option is is we're just
going to change all the fluid out, put a new
(24:59):
slip refluid in, find the latest and greatest forward stuff
or a Ford equivalent in case they had, you know,
any additives, because a lot of times the additives will
solve this particular problem. Uh, and put that back in
and see if you're if it goes.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
Away, okay, all the plan. The plan was to drop
a pan. Everything looks good there to just go ahead
and pull it, put a converter in, put it back
together and try it and see what it does.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Be sure you test that converter. Lock up solenoid. Because
the converter gets told what to do, it doesn't know
what to do. All it does is spin right and
then once the solenoid opens allows fluid to pass through there.
It creates pressure. So if there's an issue with the
wiring or that solenoid, that's the time you want to
replace it. And they're generally I'm not one hundred percent
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sure on this one, but in every other car I've
ever tested them, it's a two wire power and ground deal.
You can put it on your bench, get like a
small lawnmower battery, or I use the jump box and
just kind of touch each side of it. If you
feel it click, you know, it's generally a pretty obvious
click and just jump on the bench.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
On and off, and if they're not too expensive and
it's fairly out in the open, I'd do it anyway
because you're there.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yeah, swap gnostics.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, well, it's too much of a pain, too much
of a pain to go back and reverse your process
once you're already there.
Speaker 11 (26:27):
Yeah, you guys have not run into this issue then much,
not a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
No run into it more with the eight speed General
Motors Ford.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Has issues with the They call it the lead frame,
but it's the wiring harness inside the transmission. There was
a few eras and I'm not sure if this one
falls into that particular category.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
It would be a six speed behind a five liter.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Not a lot. We haven't run into a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
No, okay, all right, that's what that'd be.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
The first. I think you're on the right track. But
you know, everything we were going to suggest is kind
of where you're heading anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, okay, thank you, you.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Bet appreciate the call, Jeff. All right, we're going to
head over to Yeah, we're gonna head over to Dan.
Dan's got an O seven Dodge, Ram, Dan, what's up today?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yes, I have a two thousand and seven Dodge ram
that I bought new has a five point seven liter
B eight in it that eighty six thousand miles on it.
At about a month ago, the tailpipe fell off the muffler,
so I had a mechanic to replace the exhaust system
from the catalytic converter back install an MBRP simulated dual
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exhaust system and gave it a real nice rumble sound
to it. But the problem is when I pull away
from a stop and it gets up the third gear
at low speeds basically around fifteen hundred r pm, My
impression if it goes from the nice rumble sound to
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sounds like it's being flooded, that evidently one of the
sensors is not working right now since the flow has changed.
Just what sensor would that be? Because it won't do that,
you know, when it's in gear or in part army,
in park or in neutral. It won't mess up like that.
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Only when it's in gear and I'm trying to slowly
take off down the street after one basically only when
it warmed up.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Is there any check engine light on the other is okay?
Have we looked at.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
When my mechanics plugs it into the computer and I was.
It's shown that the gas cap is not shut tight,
so there's evidently a leak in the yeah system, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Got need bappose or something like that. Either back by
the gas.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Has nothing to do with oxygen sensors or anything.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, of those show up.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Okay, I wouldn't think that the oxygen sensor would be
before anything that he's replacing on the backside.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Well, if he replaced cat back, I mean there's a
chance that downstream.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Was there a chance?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah? So does the car physically run terrible? Or is
it just the sound you're worried about.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Like it changed the way it runs when it's burbling
like that, like it's not hitting on all eight or whatever.
Besides the way it sounds terrible?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Did he change the size of the tailpipe? Like do
you have like did you start with two inch exhausted
now you got three and a half inch exhaust?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Well it's not quite that big, but it could be. Yeah,
for example, because it definitely is freear flowing, you know mufflers.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
So well, we're not worried about back pressure here. I
mean the only thing that is directly coming into my
mind is the oxygen sensors. If anything's been moved or
changed there, because if you've got a bigger diameter pipe,
you got to have a bigger diameter probe on your
downstream sensor in order to get a good sample out
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of your exhaust system. Okay, that would be my only
thought out of the box. But we have to, you know,
like we've said many times, we have to start with
what we changed. We know the problem wasn't there before
we did this. Now we have a problem.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
So that's when it starts doing that. If I step
into it, then it like straightens it out. Okay, that's
what I said. That's why I say. It kind of
reminds me of the engine was carbureted. Just kind of
sounds like it's being flooded. Then when I step into it,
you know, the clears it out. Then it sounds okay again, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
That's interesting. I'll tell you what, Dan, hang on the
phone for just a second. We're gonna do a quick break.
We'll come back and talk about this just a little
bit more. Continue our conversation. So I agree with Kyle
a little bit. And you never had any of these
problems prior to do the exhaust correct correct Okay, and
your mechanic can hook it up to the scanner and
he can see that we're and then take it for
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a test drive and actually see that. It feels like
you're having something going on, but you're not actually having
anything go on as far as misfires or stumbles or
anything else along that line.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Not when it's just sitting in the shop where it
tucked up, but when he's.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Okay, but is he driving it at all?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
When uh, well, he said I took it time. He
said he drove it and he couldn't get it to
do that. So why it does not for him? I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
My guess is that you're noticing it because you've driven
it for a long time and you didn't. You didn't notice.
You noticed a distinct change from when you dropped it
off or the week before when it sounded great, to
the point where the exhaust broke, and then now when
all new exhausts. So you noticed three distinct noises in
this vehicle.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
It doesn't do it all the time. That's why I
say it has to get warmed up and then it'll
start doing it. That's when he said he took it
for a drive. It had been setting for a day
I don't think he'd go it very far toward. It
got warmed up enough so when I went back to
try and get it to do this, I had to
get a mile or so down the street before it
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would do that.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So what we're trying to determine here is when you
go cat back and put performance mufflers in and this,
that and the other, the exhaust note changes. And then
when you open the end put chrome tips on the end.
I don't know if they're chrome or not. But when
you open that chrome tip, okay from two and a
half and you open it up to maybe three, it'll
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cackle to the point where it changes a whole bunch
of different the way it sounds. I know this because
I've done it in the past, and it just sounds
different American.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
The best engine sound there is.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Oh, I know it, I know it, and it's uh.
The problem is the neighbors can always tell when you
come home, and that's the reason that they don't need
to know that you come home at two in the morning,
and then they want to know why. So you know,
it's uh, you sometimes nice, okay, well some nice sometimes
nice and quiet is beneficial. But anyway, we're trying to
(33:27):
decide whether anytime we have a problem, we take a
we take a step back and say, Okay, what did
we change, what did we do? Where's it at? And
then we go we go look at that, and then uh,
once you take a step back, you go, Okay, that's
the only thing we did, because we've checked everything else
out and everything seems to be good. So it has
to be that, and.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
It has to have something to do with the change
in the I agree.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I agree. So we will see a lot of times
in mufflers that they will will tamp down a lot
of noises that you wouldn't normally hear until you make
it free flowing. And a lot of exhausts a lot
of cars now have a pre muffler and then a
post muffler, and the pre muffler knocks out a lot
of those big noises and the other one just makes
(34:16):
it mellow to the point where you can't hear anything,
because a lot of times New V eight you can't
hear anything. So that's what I think is going on.
But I don't necessarily think you got a problem unless
this happened exactly at the same time you changed exhaust,
which I'm going to give the likelihood that that's not
the case.
Meat Bob.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
He's a four time tire rotation champion. When he was
a baby, his first words were automatic transmission fluid. Bob's
so cool he has engine coolant running through his veins.
And then there's Kyle, also known as Premium un Leaden.
Legend has it that Kyle can change your oil with
his toes, and that he can tell your tires ill
(00:23):
pressure just.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
By how you're walking.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
He's Bob, He's Kyle, and every Saturday morning they morphed
together to form the greatest superhero known to man. Mister
Mechanic check engine lights, don't stand a chance. This is
the Mister Mechanic Show. On eleven ten kfab.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Great Saturday morning to Yeah, this is the Mister Mechanic Show.
Uh five five, eight to eleven tens the numbers to
get in. We've got some open lines for you, so
give us a call. We're an interactive call in show
for those of you that haven't listened to us before
or just catching I saw on the radio driving through town.
You asked the questions, We'll give you some answers, give
you some ideas to word tohead in that car repair
(01:08):
got you stumped? You know something you're just not sure.
You pretty much sure you got it solved, but I
need a second opinion in order to know if I
should go spend five hundred dollars at the part store.
We can help you. We can do that where you
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(01:29):
see us. We'll get you back on the road and
ninety nine percent of the time in one day. Joining
me as always is Kyle. Good morning, Kyle, good morning.
You had to get in a finishing up a week
off of work. What projects have you done at home? Everything?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Got all your cars fixed?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Nope? No, okay, believe it or not. And you'll be
surprised at this. I got rid of a bunch of
carburetors this week. And generators really yeah, wow, boy, four
or five milk crate's worth of them.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know anybody that hasn't worked on carbuators carbators back
in the old days. When I say old days were
like twenties and thirties and single barrels and things. Yeah,
and they were simple. They just were simple. You popped
them off, you adjusted a float, the you know, you
did this, you did that, you put them back on.
They ran, and you didn't have much problems when you
started getting to the two barrels. Oh, you know, they
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same thing, but they you know, they always ran when
you got done. There was never major problems. And as
soon as you hit emission controls and everything else in
the eighties, now we got a problem. Now you got
a problem. We could still overhaul them. It's just that
everything was it just either turned out great or didn't
turn out good at all. Yeah, there was no rhyme
or reason to it. It was just a crap inside that
(02:40):
you couldn't get out.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Luckily, I never got involved in that era of carb raiders.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, because I did. And it was just a.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Good thing about them because they were all rot quadrijets
or something like that. You could just take it off
of there and pitch it over on the bench and
put an old mechanical one on there, and you were good.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Mm hmm, you're right, you're right. And it was just
you know, I used to have an old truck just
like you did, and or had it, and it was
just it was a one barrel carburetor. You put it
on there, it ran like a sewing machine. Yeah, there
was nothing to it, nothing to it, but it would,
it would. Just It was amazing just how well things
are built back in the day and today we can't
(03:17):
even get the right oil in certain vehicles and Chevrolet,
you know, bearing problems and this and that and the other.
I mean, we've had one hundred years of figuring it
out and we're still somehow screwing it up. I don't
get that either.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean they put a lot
of thought into just the push rod V eight. I mean,
it's not a complicated process to make them run because
Chevrolet has been doing it for a hundred years. For
it's been doing it for a hundred years. Yeah, we've
all been they've all been doing it. Yeah, why not
just keep it simple.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I just always say that one engineer retires and the
next one has to come along and make it just
a little better, because he can't say, well that guy
did great, let's just leave it that way. No, we
got a change it somehow. No credit due, that's for sure,
you know. Something speaking and why we're talking about General
motors in there and their engine problems with they're gonna
(04:07):
gets recalls and they can get that straightened out after.
I think it's I think it affects. I was looking
at their initial estimates where eight hundred thousand. I think
it's more down to six hundred thousand now. And from
what I have read up on it, it's either going
to get a new engine. That's six to two in
that Chevrolet from like twenty one to twenty four. They
(04:28):
determine you need a new engine, you'll get a new engine.
Otherwise if they don't, they'll change the oil to heavier
weight and give you Tentatively, This is just tentatively. You
have to wait and see what really comes out as
a ten year, one hundred fifty thousand miles warranty sure
on that engine, which is.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
You said that recall was eight hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Eight hundred thousand engines. Oh, eight hundred thousand engines. Yeah,
and I think they've downgraded that to six hundred thousand.
It's a lot of engines, a lot of engines in
retrospect to it. It had the same problem album when they
brought out their new twin turbo V six and they
had a problem with engines. But they caught it in
time and they only had to do one hundred thousand replacements, sure,
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which is still it's.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
A lot, but it's a lot of the grand scheme
of how many cars I got on the road. I mean, yeah,
that's one month of car payments throughout the board, and yeah,
you're done.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
I watched a toad to tear down replacing one of
these engines, and what they did was they just replaced
the short block and then put everything back together. And
it looks like a bomb exploded when they take this
entire truck apart. Oh yeah, and the whole shop is
filled with pieces of parts. We've all been everywhere, so.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Somebody walks in that's kind of on the edge of
knowing a little bit of something or like, what the
heck happened here. It's part of being a mechanic.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, And then when you put down the twin turbo
on stuff, you just add more tubes and lines and
you just you just double the amount of busyness. Busyness
as to say crap, but busy ess seeing stuff and
you know it's something that's new and we'll have to
wait and kind of see how this works out. You
know since we're on the engine talk, Chrysler has come
(06:12):
out with a new Hurricane engine and this Hurricane engine
coming out in the new Dodges and we don't know
much about them other than they just kind of come out.
They're made in Mexico, which is not either good or bad,
but it just that's where it's made. It's an inline
straight six twin turbo engine gas yas it's supposed to
(06:36):
replace for a lot of the HEMI people, hemmy owners
out there. It's going to replace that that V eight, Okay,
And it is like I said, inline six cylinder twin
turbo five hundred and forty horsepower, pretty good, not bad.
That's for the high output. Now the standard output is
(06:57):
going to be four.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
To twenty still not bad for a six bang.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
No, And if they if they engineered it correctly, those
six cylinders are just six cylinders along the line of
anybody that makes them, has made them for the last
one hundred years. Are very very durable engines. Oh yeah,
because they're in line. They just have a lot less
stresses going on than the V eight's do. And uh
hopefully they.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Is there naturally. Yes, they're a huge powerhouse as far.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
As torque, They run smooth, the the the all the
things that are trying to tear a V eight apart
are not there on a six cylinder. And the four cylinder.
It seems like you're always we needed to put a
four cylinder in a car. It seems like you're always
got your foot to the floor doing anything.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah, you know, we have a couple four cylinder ram trucks.
They're six cylinder ram trucks. I'm sorry, Oh my god,
who test drove this. I thought that this was a
good I mean for like landscaping or something at a park.
I mean, sure, probably. Well they're cheap, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
And the only reason they throw it in there because
a cafe is cafe mileage. That's the only reason you
threw it in there. And uh, but it's gonna be
kind of interesting, you know, the the five forty out
of a six cylinder twin turbo. But then again, remember
here again is what I just mentioned. You got twin turbos,
more lines, more stuff, more crap to.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Go bad, and now you got two of them on
a six cylinder.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah, gotta be.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
But here's ago everybody had a six cylinder m you know,
Chrysler had the four Leader through the two thousands early
two thousands, and I don't. I mean they got rid
of them for you know, safety reasons, you know, to
have a bigger crush zone on the car right crash purposes.
But right now we're going back. Yeah, so are they
going to stuff this thing further back and take away firewall?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I haven't seen one yet. I just happened to run
across one I have. I have a friend that bought one,
and uh because you know, he had to have more
horsepower than I did, so he did it. So so
you're saying you need a turbo. Yeah, you know, I
could probably put a supercharger on mine and go, but uh,
well I got It's that's after the warranty runs out. Well,
(09:05):
what to see about the engine thing? Because I'm caught
up on that engine.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
I think a little busy this afternoon, but tomorrow sounds beautiful.
We'll see what We'll get it on there. Let's see
what we can do.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, here's an article I ran across to Cadillac is
going to get into the F one Racing series.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Uh Deville or something.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
We don't know what's gonna be. But you know a
lot of you know it's gonna be a Cadillac backed
a Formula One racing team probably next year. It's just
their entry into Formula one, and a lot of people
have been there's a lot of the high high end people,
(09:43):
you know for our corsia.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Cadillac hasn't really had a name in racing since the
fifties probably.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, yeah, or back in the thirties for sure.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
And everybody was taken when the fifty nine Cadillac ambulance
came out. It had a five hundred this is interesting fact,
five hundred cubic engine and all the race car guys
and moonshine guys wanted them. And Junior Johnson I was
reading an interview with him how he got his first
five hundred Cadillac. They had an ambulance like two towns
(10:15):
down from him, and him and his brother would and
rob the engine out one night.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Which you could back in those days. It only took
to three four hours to get it out.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah and yeah. Anyway, he went on to win plenty
of races, NASCAR Hall of Fame, good guy.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Well, yeah, and Cadillac is also developing a a Bentley
Rolls Royce kind of car. Okay, it's going to be
somewhere in the neighborhood of three hundred and three hundred
and fifty thousand dollars. So it's going to and it's
not out anywhere you can look at. You can only
see some pictures, but it's in development of doing something
(10:48):
like that, so it's it's going to be an ultra
luxury kind of car. So that's kind of be interesting
to see how it is. You don't build very many
don't sell bring me So all right, we're gonna take
quick break on the mister mechanics show. Five five, eight
to eleven ten is the numbers to get him. We
got some open lines the way back in a minute.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
This goes out to my mechanic steeve. I've got you
under my engine. I've got you.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Fixing my car again, so deep in my car that
you're really a part of it. I've got you.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Under my engine.
Speaker 7 (11:39):
I try to fix it myself, I would say to
my wife, back off, I know what I'm doing here,
but now I can't take any more of that nagging.
Speaker 8 (11:57):
In my ears, and well stop.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
So now I've got you under my engine. I sacrificed
everything in savings for the sake of doing it myself
in spite of that nagging voice that would come from
my wife telling me to go to hell.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Don't you know me? Can you always win? It's anacuality, Yes, sir,
you have the finality. So each time I Papa Hood,
I think of you, and I stopped just.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Before I begin because I've got you.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Yes, I've got you.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
For a hefty price under my engine.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Actually it's not too bad.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Yeah, get you back on the road. Fixing that car.
We're gonna head over to Bob. Bob's got a twenty
seventeen f one fifty Bob, what's up today?
Speaker 8 (13:08):
So on the the Instagram cluster, you got the thing
that you can change the mileage and all that other stuff,
right right, So what's what's happening is it just started.
Every time I start the car now it goes to
trailer mode, and I have to put it all back
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to where I had it on before, and I don't
know how to change it back so that it stays on.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Where it was.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Okay, So trailer mode would kind of lead me to
believe that it's got a trailer hooked to it, or
it thinks it does, and it's initializing the trailer breaks
or anything like that. Do you have anything aftermarket plugged
into your trailer harness like a light can anything? Nothing
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like that.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Sitting overnight didn't solve the problems. It's just every time
you get in.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's every time I.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Turn it off, like I can. I can turn it
off A two minutes later, I started back up, and
it's it's on trailer mode.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
That is interesting. The first thing that I would probably
I had the same kind of thing happened in a
Chevrolet where I hooked a trailer, towed a trailer, and
once I unhooked it, it's still thought. It still thought
it was back there and the lights were out. So
I just let it sit for eight hours, and all
of a sudden it just reverted back to and figured
it out by itself. But the other thing that I
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was going to do if it didn't solve itself, was
to disconnect the negative battery cable and let that sit
for about ten minutes and let it resink itself. Okay,
but basically you're down to you're gonna have something that's
going to go through a module more than likely in
order to sit that to the dash. I don't think
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you got a dash problem. We'd have to look a
little more into that. That's kind of an odd thing
to happen. But there's something that that goes through probably
to a module to the rear tail lights that says okay,
this is what that is and where it goes to
and then and then it just reports to the to
the instrument panel cluster. And there is a possibility to
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you have something in the in the panel cluster that's bad.
But I would have to not that's not a common thing.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
I talked to the guys at Forward and they said, oh,
it's two hundred dollars to look at it. It's two hundred
dollars to to uh, and it sounds like a software issue.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
We have to update your software or something. I go,
you got to be freaking kidding me.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I was just going to say that that there was
going to be a software update to that something along
that particular line where they have come out with something new,
and it's it's almost like your phone after so many years,
your phone will stop accepting the app apps because then
it doesn't work with the new stuff that's coming out.
That's not uncommon for that, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Because when you think about it, I mean that screen
on your car. I mean when you sink your phone
to it, it's not actually talking to your phone, it's
talking to a module network center somewhere. I mean it
works on the same lines as you know, a telephone service,
would you know? So yeah, I mean, software updates can occur.
But I think before I did anything, I would disconnect
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that battery.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
See if it goes I'd be the first. That'd be
the first thing that I would do. And I think, uh,
and I'm just I think about this because we haven't
really run across this particular portion of even though we've
run across a lot of goofy things. The first thing
I'm doing is disconnecting the battery. The second thing I'm
doing is just kind of what he mentioned was, uh,
take it in and see if there's a software upgrade
(16:50):
that can alleviate that particular problem, because it may be
just that and then that that's all it needs, because
it just needs to move to the next generation of thinking.
For the most part.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
It's but it's not worth four hundred dollars for me
to do that. Okay, Okay, it's it doesn't stop the
car from running.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Sure, you're right, You're right, there's a certain threshold if
I ain't doing it, and you know, if that's your threshold, great,
Then there are other people that say, I don't care
if it's a thousand bucks, I want that gone.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Yea, So, well, is there a way to upgrade the
software by myself?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Not without that, you're gonna need a lot. You're going
to spend more than four hundred dollars in equipment to
do so.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah. So you have to have a scan tool capable
in order to put it in there, and then you've
got to get a subscription from Ford and then yes,
you can download it, but sometimes it doesn't always take
the first time, so you and then the car won't run,
so you got to redo it again. No, it's worth
every bit of the money of four hundred bucks to
(17:52):
have them do it, if that's what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
It's just the just the interface box to be able
to talk to this car. Are in a sense of
programming it. You're going to spend five thousand dollars on
that tool alone.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, it's not worth it.
Speaker 9 (18:06):
Well yeah, okay, because because here's the other thing about
this car. So it can connect to the internet, right,
So it's got a Wi Fi connection to my to
my rout at home. Yeah, why wouldn't they set it
up so that they could download it.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
That way so they could make four hundred bucks off you.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Some do, Yeah, I know some some do. I don't
know that you're seventeen does, but there's a lot of
I've got a newer Chevrolet and it will download and
can download through the Wi Fi as I park it
at night and you wake up in the morning and
things have changed. Yeah, yeah, you can download new things
into the vehicle, So that is coming. That's not that
(18:45):
that's a thing, but it's just more in the upper
scale cars and upper vehicles you can do that with.
It's starting to trickle down to the to the normal cars.
It just hasn't got completely there yet. Okay, Tesla does it?
You park your Tesla in the dry and the garage
and it has an update. Come back out next morning.
(19:07):
It's been updated over the over the airwaves. It's it's coming.
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Well, Tesla's just a phone on wheels, Yeah kind of,
you're right.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Okay, if you.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Get it solved, Well, if you get it solved, let
us know. We'd be interested in what solves your problem.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Yeah, I'll just connect the battery how long should I
keep it unplugged?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
By? Ten?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Ten minutes, ten minutes playing?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, yeah, okay, appreciate the call, Bob, Thanks you bet
all right, We're gonna take a quick break in the
Mister Mechanics show five, five, eight, eleven, tens of numbers
to get in. We got smoking lines back in a minute.
Troy's got a nineteen equinox. Troy's what's up today?
Speaker 10 (19:51):
Good morning guys, love yourself. Thank hey, got two questions
for you twenty nineteen equinox. My mom is my mom's
car chi We discovered that it's in teenage driver mode,
but you have to have a pin number. They bought
this car used. Are think you have to go somewhere
to get that cleared out through a computer.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Teenage driver mode?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yes, yes, yeah, okay, yeah you are. You might try
to You might try to hold the battery cables together
to see if it does that. However, I just I
don't think that'll work.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Can you get to where you can enter the code
like in a display screen? Yes, okay, you should be
able to it's called like a skim code or something
like that, and you should be able to call the
parts department at the dealership, give them your VEN number
and ask for that code, and they'll generally give it
to you.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
They'll probably going to want documentation to Maybe you might
have to go in and show them your registration and yeah,
actually own the car. Yes, yes, that you actually won't
make keys or anything that sensitive MATERI without seeing your
driver's license, your registration and then you actually own the car.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
Okay, So the question one question off of that question.
I called our local dealership and they wouldn't help me
because we didn't buy it there. Do you think, with
that in mind, should I try our local dealership or.
Speaker 11 (21:18):
Do I have to go back to where we bought it?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
They either didn't know.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Well, I mean, you should be able to call it
like the GM help line, and they should be able
to get you to somebody that can.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
If you could easily go back to where the car
was bought, that might be a better way to go. Yeah,
that might just eliminate everything else. But if not, I
agree with Kyle, you might be able to go to
a GM help line and they can say, uh, just
how do I alleviate this problem? This is I'm the
second owner. I need to take this off. But don't
(21:54):
know really where to how and to turn. And I
bet you they can help you to that too.
Speaker 10 (21:59):
Okay, all right, Hey, my second question is kind of
a weird one, but like old gas, what do you
do you guys have any recommendations so like ice, grap stuff,
while you can get lawnmowers and all that kind of stuff,
and sometimes it comes of gas. My local fire department
used to take it and like they would burn it
for like like fire excuage or training and stuff. They
(22:19):
don't do that anymore. I want to try to be
responsible with it. Do you guys have any suggestions on what.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I can do with that bring into the station?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah? Yeah, we do old gas all the time, old oil,
you know, and or freeze. We do all that kind
of stuff for people that want to to recycle it.
You should be able to go to And I'm not
one hundred percent sure any you know, fast lube, Jiffy
lube kind of thing to do that too. I don't
know if they take it. We've always just kind of
(22:46):
always done it because we're neighborhood stations and we do
it for everybody in the neighborhood. But we'll do it
for anybody.
Speaker 10 (22:52):
Okay, perfect, all righty, Thanks guys. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
You beat appreciate the call. All Right, we're gonna hell
over to Jeff. Jeff's got a seventy f one fifty Jeff,
what is up today? You got to the same problem.
Speaker 11 (23:04):
Yeah, we have a converter shutter issue chick up. I
bought first fare I really like to pick up. But
have you guys run into that issue.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Kind of like a shutter kind of when you're taking
off from a stop.
Speaker 11 (23:20):
Or Yeah, there's a lot of on the internet about
it's like running over rumble bars on a highway.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
Okay, it's usually at speed.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Sure, So I mean when we can kind of rule
out a misfire. Do you have any check engine lights
or anything?
Speaker 11 (23:37):
Nope, been through all that.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Okay, Has the transmission been serviced in this truck?
Speaker 11 (23:43):
No, it's a huge pickup that I just bought, and
from what I've seen on the internet there they have
tons of issues with them.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Sure, right, one.
Speaker 11 (23:54):
Hundred and fifty five thousand.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Okay, So we're getting up there in Nileedge. Well, I mean,
the first thing we're going to do is take the
pan down kind of look at the bottom of it,
see what's in there if it's you know something, do
we want to pull out the solenoid. Test the torqunverter,
lock up solinoid on the bench, see if that's working.
Maybe it's got crud in it.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
That's more Unluckly, where your shutter's coming from is it's
kind of it's coming from the torquenverter coming in and out.
But if you pull the pan like Kyle's suggesting, you
see just how much materials in the bottom of this pan.
You can you can always save the fluid and pour
the fluid back in and say, I'm just gonna deal
with the shutter because the amount of crap it's in
(24:36):
the bottom of this pan. As soon as I exchange
all the fluid, I know it's going to go bad.
I'm gonna be putting a new transmission in it. So
then you just pour all the old fluid back in
and say I'm just gonna live with it until it
goes out. Or it could be the other way around.
It could be nice and clean and everything's inside there
is great. So the next option is is we're just
going to change all the fluid out, put a new
(24:59):
slip refluid in, find the latest and greatest forward stuff
or a Ford equivalent in case they had, you know,
any additives, because a lot of times the additives will
solve this particular problem. Uh, and put that back in
and see if you're if it goes.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
Away, okay, all the plan. The plan was to drop
a pan. Everything looks good there to just go ahead
and pull it, put a converter in, put it back
together and try it and see what it does.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Be sure you test that converter. Lock up solenoid. Because
the converter gets told what to do, it doesn't know
what to do. All it does is spin right and
then once the solenoid opens allows fluid to pass through there.
It creates pressure. So if there's an issue with the
wiring or that solenoid, that's the time you want to
replace it. And they're generally I'm not one hundred percent
(25:53):
sure on this one, but in every other car I've
ever tested them, it's a two wire power and ground deal.
You can put it on your bench, get like a
small lawnmower battery, or I use the jump box and
just kind of touch each side of it. If you
feel it click, you know, it's generally a pretty obvious
click and just jump on the bench.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
On and off, and if they're not too expensive and
it's fairly out in the open, I'd do it anyway
because you're there.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yeah, swap gnostics.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, well, it's too much of a pain, too much
of a pain to go back and reverse your process
once you're already there.
Speaker 11 (26:27):
Yeah, you guys have not run into this issue then much,
not a lot.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
No run into it more with the eight speed General
Motors Ford.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Has issues with the They call it the lead frame,
but it's the wiring harness inside the transmission. There was
a few eras and I'm not sure if this one
falls into that particular category.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
It would be a six speed behind a five liter.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Not a lot. We haven't run into a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
No, okay, all right, that's what that'd be.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
The first. I think you're on the right track. But
you know, everything we were going to suggest is kind
of where you're heading anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, okay, thank you, you.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Bet appreciate the call, Jeff. All right, we're going to
head over to Yeah, we're gonna head over to Dan.
Dan's got an O seven Dodge, Ram, Dan, what's up today?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yes, I have a two thousand and seven Dodge ram
that I bought new has a five point seven liter
B eight in it that eighty six thousand miles on it.
At about a month ago, the tailpipe fell off the muffler,
so I had a mechanic to replace the exhaust system
from the catalytic converter back install an MBRP simulated dual
(27:43):
exhaust system and gave it a real nice rumble sound
to it. But the problem is when I pull away
from a stop and it gets up the third gear
at low speeds basically around fifteen hundred r pm, My
impression if it goes from the nice rumble sound to
(28:05):
sounds like it's being flooded, that evidently one of the
sensors is not working right now since the flow has changed.
Just what sensor would that be? Because it won't do that,
you know, when it's in gear or in part army,
in park or in neutral. It won't mess up like that.
(28:26):
Only when it's in gear and I'm trying to slowly
take off down the street after one basically only when
it warmed up.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
Is there any check engine light on the other is okay?
Have we looked at.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
When my mechanics plugs it into the computer and I was.
It's shown that the gas cap is not shut tight,
so there's evidently a leak in the yeah system, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Got need bappose or something like that. Either back by
the gas.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Has nothing to do with oxygen sensors or anything.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Yeah, of those show up.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Okay, I wouldn't think that the oxygen sensor would be
before anything that he's replacing on the backside.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Well, if he replaced cat back, I mean there's a
chance that downstream.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Was there a chance?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah? So does the car physically run terrible? Or is
it just the sound you're worried about.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Like it changed the way it runs when it's burbling
like that, like it's not hitting on all eight or whatever.
Besides the way it sounds terrible?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Did he change the size of the tailpipe? Like do
you have like did you start with two inch exhausted
now you got three and a half inch exhaust?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Well it's not quite that big, but it could be. Yeah,
for example, because it definitely is freear flowing, you know mufflers.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
So well, we're not worried about back pressure here. I
mean the only thing that is directly coming into my
mind is the oxygen sensors. If anything's been moved or
changed there, because if you've got a bigger diameter pipe,
you got to have a bigger diameter probe on your
downstream sensor in order to get a good sample out
(30:13):
of your exhaust system. Okay, that would be my only
thought out of the box. But we have to, you know,
like we've said many times, we have to start with
what we changed. We know the problem wasn't there before
we did this. Now we have a problem.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
So that's when it starts doing that. If I step
into it, then it like straightens it out. Okay, that's
what I said. That's why I say. It kind of
reminds me of the engine was carbureted. Just kind of
sounds like it's being flooded. Then when I step into it,
you know, the clears it out. Then it sounds okay again, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
That's interesting. I'll tell you what, Dan, hang on the
phone for just a second. We're gonna do a quick break.
We'll come back and talk about this just a little
bit more. Continue our conversation. So I agree with Kyle
a little bit. And you never had any of these
problems prior to do the exhaust correct correct Okay, and
your mechanic can hook it up to the scanner and
he can see that we're and then take it for
(31:12):
a test drive and actually see that. It feels like
you're having something going on, but you're not actually having
anything go on as far as misfires or stumbles or
anything else along that line.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Not when it's just sitting in the shop where it
tucked up, but when he's.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Okay, but is he driving it at all?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
When uh, well, he said I took it time. He
said he drove it and he couldn't get it to
do that. So why it does not for him? I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
My guess is that you're noticing it because you've driven
it for a long time and you didn't. You didn't notice.
You noticed a distinct change from when you dropped it
off or the week before when it sounded great, to
the point where the exhaust broke, and then now when
all new exhausts. So you noticed three distinct noises in
this vehicle.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
It doesn't do it all the time. That's why I
say it has to get warmed up and then it'll
start doing it. That's when he said he took it
for a drive. It had been setting for a day
I don't think he'd go it very far toward. It
got warmed up enough so when I went back to
try and get it to do this, I had to
get a mile or so down the street before it
(32:25):
would do that.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
So what we're trying to determine here is when you
go cat back and put performance mufflers in and this,
that and the other, the exhaust note changes. And then
when you open the end put chrome tips on the end.
I don't know if they're chrome or not. But when
you open that chrome tip, okay from two and a
half and you open it up to maybe three, it'll
(32:52):
cackle to the point where it changes a whole bunch
of different the way it sounds. I know this because
I've done it in the past, and it just sounds
different American.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
The best engine sound there is.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Oh, I know it, I know it, and it's uh.
The problem is the neighbors can always tell when you
come home, and that's the reason that they don't need
to know that you come home at two in the morning,
and then they want to know why. So you know,
it's uh, you sometimes nice, okay, well some nice sometimes
nice and quiet is beneficial. But anyway, we're trying to
(33:27):
decide whether anytime we have a problem, we take a
we take a step back and say, Okay, what did
we change, what did we do? Where's it at? And
then we go we go look at that, and then uh,
once you take a step back, you go, Okay, that's
the only thing we did, because we've checked everything else
out and everything seems to be good. So it has
to be that, and.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
It has to have something to do with the change
in the I agree.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I agree. So we will see a lot of times
in mufflers that they will will tamp down a lot
of noises that you wouldn't normally hear until you make
it free flowing. And a lot of exhausts a lot
of cars now have a pre muffler and then a
post muffler, and the pre muffler knocks out a lot
of those big noises and the other one just makes
(34:16):
it mellow to the point where you can't hear anything,
because a lot of times New V eight you can't
hear anything. So that's what I think is going on.
But I don't necessarily think you got a problem unless
this happened exactly at the same time you changed exhaust,
which I'm going to give the likelihood that that's not
the case.
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