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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Meet Bob. He's a four time tire rotation champion. When
he was a baby, his first words were automatic transmission fluid.
Bob's so cool he has engine coolant running through his veins.
And then there's Kyle, also known as Premium Unleaded. Legend
has it that Kyle can change your oil with his toes,
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and that he can tell your tires ill pressure just
by how you're walking. He's Bob, He's Kyle, and every
Saturday morning they morphed together to form the greatest superhero
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
Great Saturday morning to you. This is a Mister Mechanic show.
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Stop in and see us. We get you back on
the road. Get a soda, get a candy bar, Get
something for the road. Wherever you're heading, we can handle it,
so no problem as with me. Also, is Kyle, Good morning, Kyle. Yeah,
Kyle was here last week. I was just I was
in small town America a couple of days. You know,
looking at those. Every time you go to a small town,
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you look at the cars that still survive, that don't survive.
In Omaha, No, I've seen a Ford probe.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Good for you, hopefully you left it there.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I turned the corner and got far away from as
I could, and uh, there's just I seen a Falcon too,
and then an old like a sixty seven Ford pickup. Okay,
and this wasn't all there's some good stuff out there. Yeah,
this wasn't alredone though. This was this guy's He was
still kind of out on the farm. He was still
driving this thing back and forth. It's it's a survivor,
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and it was. It was a working survivor. This wasn't
something that needed to that was all redone and pristine
and I don't want to touch it kind of thing. Yeah,
So you just don't see those in the big city.
Sometimes you just you drive.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Oh, everybody's got to have something shiny.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Every everybody's got to have something shiny and uh. But
you know, even those cars that that passed by that
we're glad that we don't have to work on anymore,
because all the night. There's a lot of nice cars
out there that are good and run great and easy
to repair, and there are some just cars that we
just couldn't wait for them to die.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
That's a good thing about this because you know, I've
had I have a lot of friends who are like,
why don't you go and do this in like San
Diego or Phoenix or something like that. I was like,
let me tell you about that. Around here, we got
a great turnaround.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I mean there's sometimes a headache. I mean it's only
gonna be a headache for so long. I mean we
get over it. And the next thing, where'd all those
cars go?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
The Salt does. That's probably the one great thing that
the Salt does up here is it just gets rid
of those particular cars that you would just want them
to be gone. Yeah, and and you know, not just us,
because once the people that own them drive them realize
how much repair they are on them, they they want
them gone too, so they're moving on to something else.
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But it's just see the the last one I seen
was an eighty nine Chrystler Fifth Avenue.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Oh god, and those were like a step of I
mean they had the digital dash and it would talk
to you and push buttons everywhere, and that was something
for its time.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That was in a parking lot of of a business
that had you know, yeah, and it was a daily driver.
You could tell them the drove there. I remember it
was not in great shape, but it was still driving.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah. I was looking. You know. I did a class
this week about you know, digital display screens and stuff
like that and where we're at now, and they were
talking briefly about the was it the Buick seven? I
remember those digital displays?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Green?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That was just.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Green, Yeah, from the Apollo thirteen.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, it looked like the the Organ Trail computer game
from the eighties.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
They were terrible.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
They were terrible, and there's still they're still out there
in places they are.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, that was California. That was that little low production.
This is going to be worth something someday. And oh,
there's a car club for him.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I looked it up. Yeah, I'm sure that these guys
are networked.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Kind of almost like you were playing Atari, wasn't it. Yes,
pong maybe a little bit, yes, maybe just one step
above that.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And you touched the deep deep trying to pick a
radio station and hope the display was working.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
On all we were glad those are gone. All right,
let's jump into the calls. Chris has got a seventeen
f one fifty cruss. What's up today?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Quick question transmission related. I've got it's a low mileage.
I've got about twenty thousand miles on. It's got the
V eight with the six peed transmission. Seems to be
two schools a thought. If you're not having any trouble,
leave it alone, don't train the fluid. Uh, And of
course the other is a fluid. Change what do you
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guys recommend. I don't have any trouble with the transmission
at all, but you know it is a seventeen, so change.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It, change it. You're at sixty is what you said,
wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
No, you're at seventeen thousand, Oh seventeen miles?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Oh gotcha, low miles.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Sorry, but yeah, that fluid should be maintenanced on a
regular interval.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
The first thing you brought up the it's not messing up,
don't touch it. That's kind of an old world school
of thinking, you know, back in the fifties and sixties,
like you didn't mess with things like this. And you
know gear oil. I mean, how many old cars have
we changed gear oil on? Maintenance wise? I mean right,
it just never was done. But these new cars, get
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the fluid out of there, get a new fluid in there.
It's synthetic. Get it done.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Now, if you're at one hundred and twenty hundred and
forty hundred and sixty thousand miles, it's never been done.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah that you want to leave alone? Yeah, we got it.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know it's not if it's a win, it's going
to go bad. But yes, it's certainly great preventative maintenance.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Ye, keep up on it.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Yeah, okay, very good, Sure you bet.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I appreciate the call, Chris. We're gonna head over to Rick.
Rick has got a fuel question, Rick, what's up today?
Speaker 7 (06:19):
In your opinion, does your fuel grade or quality on
gasoline affect the amount of carbon deposits in your engine?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yes? Yes, so as you go up in quality, they
there's more I want to say, additives is the word.
I was going to say ingredients, But there's more additives
they use to that. So when you get premium, you know,
ninety one ninety ninety three, depending on what part of
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the country you're in. You're adding different different things to
the gas that will help clean the combustion chamber and
everything that that that fuel touches. Now on some of
the newer cars that are direct injected, it is so
precise that it's it's putting it in a certain spot.
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So as before, the fuel injector was up the rail
a little bit and I mean in the in the
intake rail or intake tunnel, and it would clean everything
coming down, so your carbon deposits would be far less
because it's like it's like a shower head or spray
or that you're spraying everything down. Well, now that you've
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gotten you've pushed it six or eight inches down right
on top of there. Your induction cleaning is more important
now than the gas in that aspects. That makes sense
because the washback can't get all the way up that
that that area.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
And then wonder does the oil stale a little cleaner.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I don't know that that's really affected that much. No,
because I'm the way that these cars are programmed. I mean,
we aren't having fuel wash like in right, like an
old carbureted car. Like there's it's so precise, Like Bob said,
I mean, what's going into that cylinder is getting used
as close to one as it can be.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yep, yep. Before it was just you turn it on,
you wash the cylinder down, you used as much as
you needed to make combustion, and the rest went out
the tailpipe. Now it is, like Kyle says, down to
the point where it's so precise that you don't have
to do anything. And on the newer cars, now you're
running synthetic oil. So synthetic oil is in its molecule
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chain is better able to hold dirt than it was
on conventional oil. Just on how it looks underneath the microscope,
it's tighter. Synthetic oil doesn't. It still holds it, It
just holds it much better then what. That's why you
go longer on oil change with synthetic than you do
with conventional, because the convention oil doesn't hold the dirt
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as good and you want it out of there as
soon as possible.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Okay, so well.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
We got off into the weeds just a little bit
about that. But so what so what kind of fuel
do you normally run your car just the regular.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
I started using the premium in writing on more and
it's got a filtering system, but the oil doesn't seem
to get dirty like it used to.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Right, agreed, agreed, And then you know all these we
kind of recommend Premium Clear, which is no ethanol in
any kind of lawn equipment, anything along on that line,
anything with a carburetor, anything with a carburetor. Because you
can run the other stuff with ethanol in it, that's
not a problem. But over a long period of time,
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it chews up the carburetor, chooses up the gaskets, it
gets corrosion in there, and you end up having place
the carburetor on it where the premium uh, just doesn't
do it like that. It doesn't.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
And that's what I'm using Premium Clear.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yep, yep. And in the grand scheme of things, and
you got five gallons of it, it's just not that
big a deal. It's it's not you know. Okay, Well,
thank you, yeah, great question, appreciate the call. All Right,
We're gonna take a quick break on the Mister Mechanics
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Speaker 2 (11:23):
Okay, I know this is for hot head. Over to Doug.
Doug's got a fuel questions as well, Doug, what's up?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (11:32):
My question is this. I know this local gas supplier
based on the same people who have the bio diesel
are now pushing fifteen. Now I'm saying it's good for farmers,
but how good is this really for cars? I mean,
I know that even the ten percent of all was
a real problem for some applications, some older engines and
you know other product that caused the corrosion. But isn't
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E fifteen just add more problems to it?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It is about upping the alcohol cond on it. It's
not a huge deal. It's starting to come into the
market here just a little bit. It's not as popular
as the ten is, but you just have to have
cars that can accommodate it. And use it. I mean,
we've also got e eighty five, so you got to
have your fuel strategy already kind of built into the
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computers to know what that is.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I can tell you. With Ford it is an issue, okay,
And that all depends because Ford has to be relearned
to each I mean, how many Ford trucks have we
seen come in with a lean condition and you look
at the fuel alcohol content and it's at eighty percent
when you test the fuel, you're only at ten percent.
It doesn't relearn automatically. It has to be told to relearn.
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So I mean that's an issue with them, and I'm
sure plenty of other manufacturers. GM is a little bit
more self adapting car. But any of these E ten,
e fifteen, e eighty five in your regular gas engine
is going to make it run lean. So your fuel
economy is going to go down.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, because you've got more gas or more less gas
in it and more alcohol. And that's just unless you're
running a race car and you want straight e eighty five. Yeah,
but that's different. That's not true question, So well, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
But the thing is, basically, though, you're getting five percent
less gas. So what people don't even realize is the
price is the same for E ten usually, but you're
getting five percent less gas or five percent less mileage,
And honestly, I don't know that's really an improvement, but
I guess there are those who have different agendas. To me,
it's like it's the most bang for buck, and this
really isn't the most bang for my buck.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
No, in eighty or e fifteen is probably going to
be maybe even a little less price wise also, and
that's usually drives the market. The price is a big deal.
That's why we got signs up there, and a lot
of people will want to be absolute cheapest no matter
or what it is, whether it's good for their car
or not. And then you have the other people that
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are going to put you know, a higher grade of
gas in it, and other people that prep premium in
and won't touch anything that has to do with alcoholic.
So yeah, it's an individual choice. But I would probably
say by far we sell more eighty seven than we
which is see there's a regular eighty seven, the lowest
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price than anything else, and premium premium comes in number two.
So you would think it would go by grade, but
it doesn't. So and premium's gaining on what the what
eighty seven used to be, so not everybody gets the cheapest,
that's for sure. But to answer your question, that's probably
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why you bring it out. You've got a little bit.
It just helps the farmer out a little bit. It's
got a little less gas that we're technically using. It's
going to be a cheaper product by a few cents,
So all that factors in drive that particular market. I
hope that you bad Doug appreciate the question. We're going
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to head over to Sam. Sam's got a nineteen ninety
seven todd A Corolla. Sam, what's up today?
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Hi, I've called the show before. You guys do a
great job and KFB has a lot of good shows
like this. I have a question about the car, and
the basic thing I'm looking for is not any precise answer,
is just kind of a speculation on whether I should
not drive it on short trips for the next few days.
What's happening is it's obviously a front wheel drive, crosswise
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engine and on the passenger side where all the timing
belt is, there's a chirping sound. When you started up.
I talked to a mechanic who's going to look at
it maybe next week. And he said quite correctly that
maybe that chirping sound might go away when you drive
it a little bit. And he was correct about that.
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It could be you guys know a lot more about
this than idea. It could be any number of rollers
or idler things, or the alternator. So I'm just looking
for any comments you might make about that.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Well, if it's my car, you know, if you go
out there right now, is it going to make the noise?
If you say, okay, so what I'm going to do first?
Because you've got a dry belt over there, let's rule
out the dry belt. I mean you can get a
glass of water, pour a little bit of water on
the belt to go away. Yep, if it goes away,
you know you've got a dry belt and probably just
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time to put a new belt.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
On or tighten it, depending on how old they are.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I mean, if it's doesn't go away, then yeah, I
mean we can definitely delve in and look at other things.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
And the engine has the car itself has more miles
on it, but the engine has about one hundred and
twenty thousand miles on it. The belt is a kind
of a groove belt. In other words, it's not a
smooth belt. But is that your comment still applies as
to go ahead and wet that belt and to see
if it helps.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Right right personal water on it. Just it's no different
than you running through a rain puddle and water splashes
up on there and gets onto the belt. And what
we're doing is just trying to create a little more
friction so that.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
This squeak will either go away or get.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Worse, one of the two. And if it goes away,
then it's right in the belt. But if it goes away,
if it goes away, well it's not a it's not
in a pulley or it's a it's not an all
nator or power string pump or anything like that. You've
isolated it down to the belts itself. That's why we're
suggesting poor a little bit of water on it.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Well, I appreciate that, great comment. I'll let you go
unless there's more to talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
No, we appreciate the call.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Thanks a lot, great program.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Thanks Sam, appreciate you listening.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Gosh, belts are going to be a thing of the
past here soon. I mean, how many new cars even
have a belt? None of the hybrids, No, not many,
not not much of the hot well, I should say
there was one hybrid we changed the belt on, but
not yeah, you're right, not. Yeah, they're going away. Not
many ac compressors are going all electric, you know. And
and just to alternators are incorporated.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah into that. And just to expand on why we
pour water on it, it's just it's cheap and easy
and we don't have to go get anything. Yeah, all
belts start off with you know, just like your tires do.
They're they're nice, and they got some grip. They got
some grip, they got some moisture in that belt. In
other words, they're not all dried out and cracked. And
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you know that's in there. Over any belt that you
put on that has an automatic tension or the belt
will stretch, and not much, but it'll stretch a little
bit and the automatic tension or takes that up. And
as that belt goes round and around a couple billion times,
it just starts to dry out again. Just like your tires.
Tires are nice and soft and great when you first
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get them in the over a period of time, they
get hard well, then they get stuff on them, and
the belts do and then they start to squeak a
little bit, and if you can pour a little bit
of water on that and make that change that hydro
you know the dynamics of it real quick, then you
know that's where your problem is. Yep. No different than
taking the belt off and then see if your noise
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goes away. But that's just a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, who wants to do that?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
A cup of water does the same thing. Yeah, but
you know, pour the water on it, but don't don't
be staring at the belts, yeah, because it'll flip it
around and next thing, you know, you a.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Little bit of water, don't soak the thing. Don't take
the garden hose with you. Yeah, don't get it up
and a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, yeah, just a little bit, because the garden hose
makes it all slip a lot, and if it's super loose,
it'll make a lot of noise. But that's okay. A
lot of noise is okay too, because we still know
it's in the belts and we now we know that
if it slips a lot, that we've got a belt
that's really loose.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Oh yeah. So yeah, I mean some of these cars,
I mean, people just don't put belts on because the
rubber is just I mean, evolved so much. We put
so much in it that they don't really break down
like they used to. No, they don't, but they still
dry out. I mean there's cars I've taken the belt
off and it looks exactly the same as when it
was on the car. I don't even need to make
a diagram. I just set the belt on the floor,
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just make it look like that.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And you're right, you know. I have noticed in the
last month or so, and actually one yesterday that we
had the guy came down in a toad of Corolla.
We had. He had one strand left on this belt
hanging on by a thread, hanging by a thread. Literally
it was it was one thread, one groove going all
the way around all the pulleys. And he called for
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a service call and he says, I need to get
this toad. And I looked at it and he wasn't
very far. I said, no, jump in, we're driving this.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, we're getting our money's worth out of this thing.
Every bit of this belt's getting used.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
He was happy we didn't have charge him a service
call and it was just one strand. We got it
down there. I said, I had to call somebody over
and said, take a look at this and one strand,
one V belt. He drove it from. He drove it
from out of state too, by the way, and so
we put a brand new belt on it, checked all
the pulleys. Everything was great, no problem. It just had
wore itself completely out to the point where only had
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one strand left.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, gotta get your money's worth out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Gosh daring toyot as. I tell you what. They could
run on little or nothing and the power steering still worked.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, nothing to it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But the reason I say that is because they just belt.
It's something you always used to do, but now they're
lasting so much better.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
People forget about it.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
All right, We're gonna take quick break of the Miss
Mechanics show five, five, eight, eleven, tens and numbers that
get in. We'll be back in a bit. You just
you want to dial the phone. You just haven't done
it yet because you don't know if you can get in. Well,
we got spots.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah we're not that bad.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah we're not. Kyle had got another We did this.
We did this story back in twenty two, and you
know it's twenty five, So we got another ship. A
band in the Pacific Ocean. Guess what happened?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Did you catch on fire?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It did? How to catch on fire? Kyle? This is
gonna be question an answer period.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Probably something to do with I'm just you know, shooting
from the hip here electricity, electricity, you got it, and
maybe a battery, you got it, a stored electricity source.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And what happens when one catches on fire? Well, the
next one catches on fire, and then the next one
and the next one. Before you know what, we got
ourselves a barbecue barbeque, so we got invited. Yeah, I
don't know. I think you don't even have a problem
with the hot dogs on this one. I'll tell you what.
So this was a ship coming not all EV cars,
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but a deck full of EV cars and other cars
coming from China over to Mexico and then probably up
to us. I'd imagine that one would think caught fire
in the at the ocean, and the crew twenty two
of them, tried to put it out, and they gave
up and jumped in the lifeboat and got off and
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they ran. And so it's I don't know if it's
on fire still, one would guess, because when it comes
to evs. They don't really just burn out, but they
have to burn out, they don't really just get put out.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
And it's like the Springfield tire fire on the Simpsons.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
So what I imagine that's going to spend to the
rest of it, and unless they get somebody there and
clean it out, it's just going to be a bigger problem.
And they had this happen in twenty two where they
abandoned and that one's still going. You know, I think
it finally I think it finally got it out or
it finally went adrift and they finally put something. I
don't know, but it's I haven't had an update. This
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happened like a couple of days ago, two three days ago,
and so my guess is, depending on how it is,
it may still be on fire. They're just dangerous, yeah,
I mean, there's it's unstable. Yes, it's just I mean,
gasoline cars are just what they are too. I get that.
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But we've had hundreds of years, not hundreds of years,
but we had one hundred a year, one hundred year
to try to figure out how to solve that problem,
and I think we've done pretty good. It's it'd be
nice if though somehow could isolate batteries that if one
cell caught fire, that it could extinguish itself in that
particular portion and not move on to the rest. But
things get so darn hot that you just don't really
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have a choice. This is a stupid question.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
But if it's in the ocean, can you just scuttle
the ship and then have when that put the fire out.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
The eventually eventually yeah, yeah, they'll burn underwater for quite
a while. Yeah I will, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah you can.
All you have to do is get on YouTube and
watch eb fires.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Uh Tesla guy that was backing in to pick up
his boat and the car caught on fire, so they
backed it in the lake and it was still going
and boiling water.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Next morning it was still going. Yeah, and that's just
the thing with all that kind of problem. Let's head
over to Jim. Jim's got a motor question on a GMC.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Jim, what's up, Hey, I'm looking at a newer vehicle
should be pickup and they got the five three or
Eco five point three and the five point three L.
What's the main difference on something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Well, the five point three L is just your that's
every five point three. It's a five point three liter engine,
the five point three Leader Eco. I'm not one hundred percent.
I mean, it's a basic five three V eight block.
The Eco is going to be if it's hybrid or not, which.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Was an option.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Okay, Yeah, I didn't want to want the hybrid enough,
and I know they're pushing them. Six to two's pretty
hard on the vehicles, but I really don't want one
of those that all things.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, well, the six twos are great for power. We've
got four hundred and twenty horse power, but the uh,
depending on how you're using it. If you're towing with it,
it's great. If the five three is also just got
a little better mileage. Some people are after mileage, some
people aren't. And the five three has been a great,
very reliable plat very reliable platform. Yes, yes, but not
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a lot there.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
And they're having some issues within six twos.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
They're having issues issues with six two's and this has
more to do with internal portions of it anything past
twenty five, So twenty one to twenty four, there's about
six hundred thousand of those that are involved in that
six to two recall. Before that, they were rock solid
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and after that, after into twenty five, they were they've
been fine. So yeah, it's and they're they're getting they
stop sale on those, so there's no more of those
kind of being sold out there, but they're getting either
replacement or fixing or just doing what's necessary. So if
you're looking in that years, yeah, you want to kind of.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Be careful, okay on that ego unleaded or premium in
them or what your thoughts on those are be or both.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Most of GM has been able to run it all
anywhere from E ten all the way up to e
eighty five, and they've been doing that for years, so
you can kind of you can run the gamut of it.
And as we spoke earlier, you can go E eighty five.
It's cheaper fuel, but it's your mileage is going to
be way down, So you're you're giving up price, but
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you're giving up mileage. Your best mileage is going to
be with your premium. It really is. I mean, I've
got one of these six to two trucks that we
talk about, and I think my best mileage that I've
got that's that just goes through the computer is right
at about twenty four miles a gallon. And that's that's
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going about sixty five sixty eight mile an hour.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You know on slap this is regular around town driving
for you.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Then, yeah, yes, you're right, Kyle. So yeah, on the
back roads where you can only go sixty five, the
darn thing gets with a six to two motor, gets
twenty four miles a gallon. I mean that's great. Now,
when I guess where I normally drive, Kyle, now that
you brought it up, somewhere in the eighty five and
ninety range, it's at fifteen five, so sixteen miles ago.
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And that's not too bad, is it.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
I appreciate it, guys, you bet.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Appreciate the call. So yeah, I was doing a you
had to bring it up. So I'm gonna have to
tell you exactly what I get. For all those people
that are mileage cons of conscious, that is exactly the
miles that I get on that truck.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
So I was reading some studies on the Ford Goliath
that was at seven three v eight super truck thing
that they got. This guy filled it up with premium
and took it out and just kind of put it
through its paces, and you know, I was getting after
it on the highway and guess what the fuel.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Mileage was when he was getting after it or when
he was just a.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Regular highway just going tweenty miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Eighty miles an hour, just just cruising. I would probably
say twelve.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Wow, you're giving that thing a lot. What was it
sex point seventy three miles to gal.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I will say it does go down a lot when
when you're on the throttle, it goes down to maybe
one or two. But as an average just kind of
cruising down the highway with you know, the cruise controlled on.
That's that's my numbers that I'm throwing out. But but
seven threes a bit.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
And the fuel injectors in this thing, I mean they're
working like a garden hose.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
All right, we're gonna take quick breaking, miss mc kank.
Show me back in a minute, Kyle. I was thinking
maybe we should get a hybrid battery and just light
it up on fire there and see how long it lasts,
and then we could do a controlled burn and and
and you know, time it and see hall alone lit.
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Where are we going to do this thought?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I mean, we could probably do it in my backyard going.
I don't know if this drass city is going to
be you know, on board with our experiment is.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Already dead in your backyard. I've seen it, so it
doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
It's fine. I mean, I'm all for as long as
we can let the dogs out once in a while.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay, well, yeah, we'll put them out front. We'll try
to figure it out. All right, We're gonna head over Steve.
Steve's got a twenty one hybrid Ta Steve, what's up today.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
I'm not gonna get a lot of sympathy with this,
but I normally the car, the car is papered at
like thirty six miles per gallon, and I assume that's
with mixed driving and everything like that. The problem is
I always I always try and get it from the
same place, the same pump. I'm old, so I can
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do these.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Types of things.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
But I find that out on the road my mileage
becomes inconsistent. And by playing with one of the buttons
on the control thing, it's like the end one with
two it looks like two.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Seats maybe front seat and back seat.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I can greatly improve my gas mileage. And I don't
understand it because this will I'll be looking out I'll
be going down the road and yeah, I'm going about
thirty six thirty eight miles per gallon. I'm going maybe
seventy miles an hour. And I started playing with his button,
and I can work it all the way up to
forty one. I've had it as high as forty three,
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and I've had it there for a consistent period of
time with even the cold starts in that not cold cold,
but you know, sixty degree mornings starts, and driving it
around and I lose very little of the miles per
gallon number. I know part of that is probably because
of all the miles that have accumulated in the in
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the meter, but it just amazes me that it's I
would I would go back to the Toyota place, but
I over the years, for the money that they get,
I find the better changing world than they are getting
intelligent information on these cars.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Okay, Well, I don't know it is?
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Is that a possibly an ECO button at all?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Well, it's it's it's got the it's got the circulator
button let the inside air out of the outside air,
but right next to it as the the other one,
and occasion it turns on by itself and I go
back and I just flutter the thing till it's off,
and that's when it starts improving. Now, that could be that.
I don't know if it's got two air conditioners in
it and one runs all the time or or what
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the deal is, But even when the air conditioners turned
on intentionally, it still doesn't affect the gas mile it's
that much.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
That's interesting. That's because on a hybrid, that's all gonna
not really run by a belt, all going to be
run off of the air conditioning compressor is going to
be run off electricity on the back side of that. Yeah,
so I think it.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Is that the case even when you're going down the road.
I mean, if I put off the gas, the green
light comes on and I'm on uh uh EV. But normally,
if you're just driving down the road, you're running.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Off the engine, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Well not always, not always, no, No, it's it has
it has no direct belt that it hooks up to
that air conditioning compressor. It's all run basically off the backside,
hooked to the engine and the EV portion of it.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Oh, how interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of interesting. We were talking about
that earlier that some cars don't even have belts anymore,
especially the hybrid portion of it doesn't
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Stop in and see us. We get you back on
the road. Get a soda, get a candy bar, Get
something for the road. Wherever you're heading, we can handle it,
so no problem as with me. Also, is Kyle, Good morning, Kyle. Yeah,
Kyle was here last week. I was just I was
in small town America a couple of days. You know,
looking at those. Every time you go to a small town,
(01:26):
you look at the cars that still survive, that don't survive.
In Omaha, No, I've seen a Ford probe.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Good for you, hopefully you left it there.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I turned the corner and got far away from as
I could, and uh, there's just I seen a Falcon too,
and then an old like a sixty seven Ford pickup. Okay,
and this wasn't all there's some good stuff out there. Yeah,
this wasn't alredone though. This was this guy's He was
still kind of out on the farm. He was still
driving this thing back and forth. It's it's a survivor,
(02:00):
and it was. It was a working survivor. This wasn't
something that needed to that was all redone and pristine
and I don't want to touch it kind of thing. Yeah,
So you just don't see those in the big city.
Sometimes you just you drive.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Oh, everybody's got to have something shiny.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Every everybody's got to have something shiny and uh. But
you know, even those cars that that passed by that
we're glad that we don't have to work on anymore,
because all the night. There's a lot of nice cars
out there that are good and run great and easy
to repair, and there are some just cars that we
just couldn't wait for them to die.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
That's a good thing about this because you know, I've
had I have a lot of friends who are like,
why don't you go and do this in like San
Diego or Phoenix or something like that. I was like,
let me tell you about that. Around here, we got
a great turnaround.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I mean there's sometimes a headache. I mean it's only
gonna be a headache for so long. I mean we
get over it. And the next thing, where'd all those
cars go?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
The Salt does. That's probably the one great thing that
the Salt does up here is it just gets rid
of those particular cars that you would just want them
to be gone. Yeah, and and you know, not just us,
because once the people that own them drive them realize
how much repair they are on them, they they want
them gone too, so they're moving on to something else.
(03:20):
But it's just see the the last one I seen
was an eighty nine Chrystler Fifth Avenue.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Oh god, and those were like a step of I
mean they had the digital dash and it would talk
to you and push buttons everywhere, and that was something
for its time.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That was in a parking lot of of a business
that had you know, yeah, and it was a daily driver.
You could tell them the drove there. I remember it
was not in great shape, but it was still driving.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah. I was looking. You know. I did a class
this week about you know, digital display screens and stuff
like that and where we're at now, and they were
talking briefly about the was it the Buick seven? I
remember those digital displays?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Green?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
That was just.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Green, Yeah, from the Apollo thirteen.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah, it looked like the the Organ Trail computer game
from the eighties.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
They were terrible.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
They were terrible, and there's still they're still out there
in places they are.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, that was California. That was that little low production.
This is going to be worth something someday. And oh,
there's a car club for him.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I looked it up. Yeah, I'm sure that these guys
are networked.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Kind of almost like you were playing Atari, wasn't it. Yes,
pong maybe a little bit, yes, maybe just one step
above that.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
And you touched the deep deep trying to pick a
radio station and hope the display was working.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
On all we were glad those are gone. All right,
let's jump into the calls. Chris has got a seventeen
f one fifty cruss. What's up today?
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Quick question transmission related. I've got it's a low mileage.
I've got about twenty thousand miles on. It's got the
V eight with the six peed transmission. Seems to be
two schools a thought. If you're not having any trouble,
leave it alone, don't train the fluid. Uh, And of
course the other is a fluid. Change what do you
(05:10):
guys recommend. I don't have any trouble with the transmission
at all, but you know it is a seventeen, so change.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It, change it. You're at sixty is what you said,
wasn't it?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
No, you're at seventeen thousand, Oh seventeen miles?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Oh gotcha, low miles.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Sorry, but yeah, that fluid should be maintenanced on a
regular interval.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
The first thing you brought up the it's not messing up,
don't touch it. That's kind of an old world school
of thinking, you know, back in the fifties and sixties,
like you didn't mess with things like this. And you
know gear oil. I mean, how many old cars have
we changed gear oil on? Maintenance wise? I mean right,
it just never was done. But these new cars, get
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the fluid out of there, get a new fluid in there.
It's synthetic. Get it done.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Now, if you're at one hundred and twenty hundred and
forty hundred and sixty thousand miles, it's never been done.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yeah that you want to leave alone? Yeah, we got it.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
You know it's not if it's a win, it's going
to go bad. But yes, it's certainly great preventative maintenance.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Ye, keep up on it.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Yeah, okay, very good, Sure you bet.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I appreciate the call, Chris. We're gonna head over to Rick.
Rick has got a fuel question, Rick, what's up today?
Speaker 7 (06:19):
In your opinion, does your fuel grade or quality on
gasoline affect the amount of carbon deposits in your engine?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yes? Yes, so as you go up in quality, they
there's more I want to say, additives is the word.
I was going to say ingredients, But there's more additives
they use to that. So when you get premium, you know,
ninety one ninety ninety three, depending on what part of
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the country you're in. You're adding different different things to
the gas that will help clean the combustion chamber and
everything that that that fuel touches. Now on some of
the newer cars that are direct injected, it is so
precise that it's it's putting it in a certain spot.
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So as before, the fuel injector was up the rail
a little bit and I mean in the in the
intake rail or intake tunnel, and it would clean everything
coming down, so your carbon deposits would be far less
because it's like it's like a shower head or spray
or that you're spraying everything down. Well, now that you've
(07:32):
gotten you've pushed it six or eight inches down right
on top of there. Your induction cleaning is more important
now than the gas in that aspects. That makes sense
because the washback can't get all the way up that
that that area.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
And then wonder does the oil stale a little cleaner.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I don't know that that's really affected that much. No,
because I'm the way that these cars are programmed. I mean,
we aren't having fuel wash like in right, like an
old carbureted car. Like there's it's so precise, Like Bob said,
I mean, what's going into that cylinder is getting used
as close to one as it can be.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yep, yep. Before it was just you turn it on,
you wash the cylinder down, you used as much as
you needed to make combustion, and the rest went out
the tailpipe. Now it is, like Kyle says, down to
the point where it's so precise that you don't have
to do anything. And on the newer cars, now you're
running synthetic oil. So synthetic oil is in its molecule
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chain is better able to hold dirt than it was
on conventional oil. Just on how it looks underneath the microscope,
it's tighter. Synthetic oil doesn't. It still holds it, It
just holds it much better then what. That's why you
go longer on oil change with synthetic than you do
with conventional, because the convention oil doesn't hold the dirt
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as good and you want it out of there as
soon as possible.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Okay, so well.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
We got off into the weeds just a little bit
about that. But so what so what kind of fuel
do you normally run your car just the regular.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
I started using the premium in writing on more and
it's got a filtering system, but the oil doesn't seem
to get dirty like it used to.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Right, agreed, agreed, And then you know all these we
kind of recommend Premium Clear, which is no ethanol in
any kind of lawn equipment, anything along on that line,
anything with a carburetor, anything with a carburetor. Because you
can run the other stuff with ethanol in it, that's
not a problem. But over a long period of time,
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it chews up the carburetor, chooses up the gaskets, it
gets corrosion in there, and you end up having place
the carburetor on it where the premium uh, just doesn't
do it like that. It doesn't.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
And that's what I'm using Premium Clear.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yep, yep. And in the grand scheme of things, and
you got five gallons of it, it's just not that
big a deal. It's it's not you know. Okay, Well,
thank you, yeah, great question, appreciate the call. All Right,
We're gonna take a quick break on the Mister Mechanics
Show five, five, eight to eleven tens the numbers to
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Speaker 2 (11:23):
Okay, I know this is for hot head. Over to Doug.
Doug's got a fuel questions as well, Doug, what's up?
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Hey?
Speaker 9 (11:32):
My question is this. I know this local gas supplier
based on the same people who have the bio diesel
are now pushing fifteen. Now I'm saying it's good for farmers,
but how good is this really for cars? I mean,
I know that even the ten percent of all was
a real problem for some applications, some older engines and
you know other product that caused the corrosion. But isn't
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E fifteen just add more problems to it?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It is about upping the alcohol cond on it. It's
not a huge deal. It's starting to come into the
market here just a little bit. It's not as popular
as the ten is, but you just have to have
cars that can accommodate it. And use it. I mean,
we've also got e eighty five, so you got to
have your fuel strategy already kind of built into the
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computers to know what that is.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I can tell you. With Ford it is an issue, okay,
And that all depends because Ford has to be relearned
to each I mean, how many Ford trucks have we
seen come in with a lean condition and you look
at the fuel alcohol content and it's at eighty percent
when you test the fuel, you're only at ten percent.
It doesn't relearn automatically. It has to be told to relearn.
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So I mean that's an issue with them, and I'm
sure plenty of other manufacturers. GM is a little bit
more self adapting car. But any of these E ten,
e fifteen, e eighty five in your regular gas engine
is going to make it run lean. So your fuel
economy is going to go down.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, because you've got more gas or more less gas
in it and more alcohol. And that's just unless you're
running a race car and you want straight e eighty five. Yeah,
but that's different. That's not true question, So well, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
But the thing is, basically, though, you're getting five percent
less gas. So what people don't even realize is the
price is the same for E ten usually, but you're
getting five percent less gas or five percent less mileage,
And honestly, I don't know that's really an improvement, but
I guess there are those who have different agendas. To me,
it's like it's the most bang for buck, and this
really isn't the most bang for my buck.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
No, in eighty or e fifteen is probably going to
be maybe even a little less price wise also, and
that's usually drives the market. The price is a big deal.
That's why we got signs up there, and a lot
of people will want to be absolute cheapest no matter
or what it is, whether it's good for their car
or not. And then you have the other people that
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are going to put you know, a higher grade of
gas in it, and other people that prep premium in
and won't touch anything that has to do with alcoholic.
So yeah, it's an individual choice. But I would probably
say by far we sell more eighty seven than we
which is see there's a regular eighty seven, the lowest
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price than anything else, and premium premium comes in number two.
So you would think it would go by grade, but
it doesn't. So and premium's gaining on what the what
eighty seven used to be, so not everybody gets the cheapest,
that's for sure. But to answer your question, that's probably
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why you bring it out. You've got a little bit.
It just helps the farmer out a little bit. It's
got a little less gas that we're technically using. It's
going to be a cheaper product by a few cents,
So all that factors in drive that particular market. I
hope that you bad Doug appreciate the question. We're going
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to head over to Sam. Sam's got a nineteen ninety
seven todd A Corolla. Sam, what's up today?
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Hi, I've called the show before. You guys do a
great job and KFB has a lot of good shows
like this. I have a question about the car, and
the basic thing I'm looking for is not any precise answer,
is just kind of a speculation on whether I should
not drive it on short trips for the next few days.
What's happening is it's obviously a front wheel drive, crosswise
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engine and on the passenger side where all the timing
belt is, there's a chirping sound. When you started up.
I talked to a mechanic who's going to look at
it maybe next week. And he said quite correctly that
maybe that chirping sound might go away when you drive
it a little bit. And he was correct about that.
(16:00):
It could be you guys know a lot more about
this than idea. It could be any number of rollers
or idler things, or the alternator. So I'm just looking
for any comments you might make about that.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Well, if it's my car, you know, if you go
out there right now, is it going to make the noise?
If you say, okay, so what I'm going to do first?
Because you've got a dry belt over there, let's rule
out the dry belt. I mean you can get a
glass of water, pour a little bit of water on
the belt to go away. Yep, if it goes away,
you know you've got a dry belt and probably just
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time to put a new belt.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
On or tighten it, depending on how old they are.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I mean, if it's doesn't go away, then yeah, I
mean we can definitely delve in and look at other things.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
And the engine has the car itself has more miles
on it, but the engine has about one hundred and
twenty thousand miles on it. The belt is a kind
of a groove belt. In other words, it's not a
smooth belt. But is that your comment still applies as
to go ahead and wet that belt and to see
if it helps.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Right right personal water on it. Just it's no different
than you running through a rain puddle and water splashes
up on there and gets onto the belt. And what
we're doing is just trying to create a little more
friction so that.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
This squeak will either go away or get.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Worse, one of the two. And if it goes away,
then it's right in the belt. But if it goes away,
if it goes away, well it's not a it's not
in a pulley or it's a it's not an all
nator or power string pump or anything like that. You've
isolated it down to the belts itself. That's why we're
suggesting poor a little bit of water on it.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
Well, I appreciate that, great comment. I'll let you go
unless there's more to talk about.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
No, we appreciate the call.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Thanks a lot, great program.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Thanks Sam, appreciate you listening.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Gosh, belts are going to be a thing of the
past here soon. I mean, how many new cars even
have a belt? None of the hybrids, No, not many,
not not much of the hot well, I should say
there was one hybrid we changed the belt on, but
not yeah, you're right, not. Yeah, they're going away. Not
many ac compressors are going all electric, you know. And
and just to alternators are incorporated.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah into that. And just to expand on why we
pour water on it, it's just it's cheap and easy
and we don't have to go get anything. Yeah, all
belts start off with you know, just like your tires do.
They're they're nice, and they got some grip. They got
some grip, they got some moisture in that belt. In
other words, they're not all dried out and cracked. And
(18:40):
you know that's in there. Over any belt that you
put on that has an automatic tension or the belt
will stretch, and not much, but it'll stretch a little
bit and the automatic tension or takes that up. And
as that belt goes round and around a couple billion times,
it just starts to dry out again. Just like your tires.
Tires are nice and soft and great when you first
(19:01):
get them in the over a period of time, they
get hard well, then they get stuff on them, and
the belts do and then they start to squeak a
little bit, and if you can pour a little bit
of water on that and make that change that hydro
you know the dynamics of it real quick, then you
know that's where your problem is. Yep. No different than
taking the belt off and then see if your noise
(19:22):
goes away. But that's just a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah, who wants to do that?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
A cup of water does the same thing. Yeah, but
you know, pour the water on it, but don't don't
be staring at the belts, yeah, because it'll flip it
around and next thing, you know, you a.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Little bit of water, don't soak the thing. Don't take
the garden hose with you. Yeah, don't get it up
and a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, yeah, just a little bit, because the garden hose
makes it all slip a lot, and if it's super loose,
it'll make a lot of noise. But that's okay. A
lot of noise is okay too, because we still know
it's in the belts and we now we know that
if it slips a lot, that we've got a belt
that's really loose.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Oh yeah. So yeah, I mean some of these cars,
I mean, people just don't put belts on because the
rubber is just I mean, evolved so much. We put
so much in it that they don't really break down
like they used to. No, they don't, but they still
dry out. I mean there's cars I've taken the belt
off and it looks exactly the same as when it
was on the car. I don't even need to make
a diagram. I just set the belt on the floor,
(20:14):
just make it look like that.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And you're right, you know. I have noticed in the
last month or so, and actually one yesterday that we
had the guy came down in a toad of Corolla.
We had. He had one strand left on this belt
hanging on by a thread, hanging by a thread. Literally
it was it was one thread, one groove going all
the way around all the pulleys. And he called for
(20:39):
a service call and he says, I need to get
this toad. And I looked at it and he wasn't
very far. I said, no, jump in, we're driving this.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, we're getting our money's worth out of this thing.
Every bit of this belt's getting used.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
He was happy we didn't have charge him a service
call and it was just one strand. We got it
down there. I said, I had to call somebody over
and said, take a look at this and one strand,
one V belt. He drove it from. He drove it
from out of state too, by the way, and so
we put a brand new belt on it, checked all
the pulleys. Everything was great, no problem. It just had
wore itself completely out to the point where only had
(21:15):
one strand left.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, gotta get your money's worth out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Gosh daring toyot as. I tell you what. They could
run on little or nothing and the power steering still worked.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Yeah, nothing to it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
But the reason I say that is because they just belt.
It's something you always used to do, but now they're
lasting so much better.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
People forget about it.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
All right, We're gonna take quick break of the Miss
Mechanics show five, five, eight, eleven, tens and numbers that
get in. We'll be back in a bit. You just
you want to dial the phone. You just haven't done
it yet because you don't know if you can get in. Well,
we got spots.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah we're not that bad.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah we're not. Kyle had got another We did this.
We did this story back in twenty two, and you
know it's twenty five, So we got another ship. A
band in the Pacific Ocean. Guess what happened?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Did you catch on fire?
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It did? How to catch on fire? Kyle? This is
gonna be question an answer period.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Probably something to do with I'm just you know, shooting
from the hip here electricity, electricity, you got it, and
maybe a battery, you got it, a stored electricity source.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And what happens when one catches on fire? Well, the
next one catches on fire, and then the next one
and the next one. Before you know what, we got
ourselves a barbecue barbeque, so we got invited. Yeah, I
don't know. I think you don't even have a problem
with the hot dogs on this one. I'll tell you what.
So this was a ship coming not all EV cars,
(22:47):
but a deck full of EV cars and other cars
coming from China over to Mexico and then probably up
to us. I'd imagine that one would think caught fire
in the at the ocean, and the crew twenty two
of them, tried to put it out, and they gave
up and jumped in the lifeboat and got off and
(23:09):
they ran. And so it's I don't know if it's
on fire still, one would guess, because when it comes
to evs. They don't really just burn out, but they
have to burn out, they don't really just get put out.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
And it's like the Springfield tire fire on the Simpsons.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
So what I imagine that's going to spend to the
rest of it, and unless they get somebody there and
clean it out, it's just going to be a bigger problem.
And they had this happen in twenty two where they
abandoned and that one's still going. You know, I think
it finally I think it finally got it out or
it finally went adrift and they finally put something. I
don't know, but it's I haven't had an update. This
(23:48):
happened like a couple of days ago, two three days ago,
and so my guess is, depending on how it is,
it may still be on fire. They're just dangerous, yeah,
I mean, there's it's unstable. Yes, it's just I mean,
gasoline cars are just what they are too. I get that.
(24:09):
But we've had hundreds of years, not hundreds of years,
but we had one hundred a year, one hundred year
to try to figure out how to solve that problem,
and I think we've done pretty good. It's it'd be
nice if though somehow could isolate batteries that if one
cell caught fire, that it could extinguish itself in that
particular portion and not move on to the rest. But
things get so darn hot that you just don't really
(24:31):
have a choice. This is a stupid question.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
But if it's in the ocean, can you just scuttle
the ship and then have when that put the fire out.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
The eventually eventually yeah, yeah, they'll burn underwater for quite
a while. Yeah I will, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah you can.
All you have to do is get on YouTube and
watch eb fires.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Uh Tesla guy that was backing in to pick up
his boat and the car caught on fire, so they
backed it in the lake and it was still going
and boiling water.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Next morning it was still going. Yeah, and that's just
the thing with all that kind of problem. Let's head
over to Jim. Jim's got a motor question on a GMC.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Jim, what's up, Hey, I'm looking at a newer vehicle
should be pickup and they got the five three or
Eco five point three and the five point three L.
What's the main difference on something like that.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Well, the five point three L is just your that's
every five point three. It's a five point three liter engine,
the five point three Leader Eco. I'm not one hundred percent.
I mean, it's a basic five three V eight block.
The Eco is going to be if it's hybrid or not, which.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Was an option.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Okay, Yeah, I didn't want to want the hybrid enough,
and I know they're pushing them. Six to two's pretty
hard on the vehicles, but I really don't want one
of those that all things.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Yeah, well, the six twos are great for power. We've
got four hundred and twenty horse power, but the uh,
depending on how you're using it. If you're towing with it,
it's great. If the five three is also just got
a little better mileage. Some people are after mileage, some
people aren't. And the five three has been a great,
very reliable plat very reliable platform. Yes, yes, but not
(26:16):
a lot there.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
And they're having some issues within six twos.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
They're having issues issues with six two's and this has
more to do with internal portions of it anything past
twenty five, So twenty one to twenty four, there's about
six hundred thousand of those that are involved in that
six to two recall. Before that, they were rock solid
(26:42):
and after that, after into twenty five, they were they've
been fine. So yeah, it's and they're they're getting they
stop sale on those, so there's no more of those
kind of being sold out there, but they're getting either
replacement or fixing or just doing what's necessary. So if
you're looking in that years, yeah, you want to kind of.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Be careful, okay on that ego unleaded or premium in
them or what your thoughts on those are be or both.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Most of GM has been able to run it all
anywhere from E ten all the way up to e
eighty five, and they've been doing that for years, so
you can kind of you can run the gamut of it.
And as we spoke earlier, you can go E eighty five.
It's cheaper fuel, but it's your mileage is going to
be way down, So you're you're giving up price, but
(27:33):
you're giving up mileage. Your best mileage is going to
be with your premium. It really is. I mean, I've
got one of these six to two trucks that we
talk about, and I think my best mileage that I've
got that's that just goes through the computer is right
at about twenty four miles a gallon. And that's that's
(27:56):
going about sixty five sixty eight mile an hour.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You know on slap this is regular around town driving
for you.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Then, yeah, yes, you're right, Kyle. So yeah, on the
back roads where you can only go sixty five, the
darn thing gets with a six to two motor, gets
twenty four miles a gallon. I mean that's great. Now,
when I guess where I normally drive, Kyle, now that
you brought it up, somewhere in the eighty five and
ninety range, it's at fifteen five, so sixteen miles ago.
(28:29):
And that's not too bad, is it.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
I appreciate it, guys, you bet.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Appreciate the call. So yeah, I was doing a you
had to bring it up. So I'm gonna have to
tell you exactly what I get. For all those people
that are mileage cons of conscious, that is exactly the
miles that I get on that truck.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
So I was reading some studies on the Ford Goliath
that was at seven three v eight super truck thing
that they got. This guy filled it up with premium
and took it out and just kind of put it
through its paces, and you know, I was getting after
it on the highway and guess what the fuel.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Mileage was when he was getting after it or when
he was just a.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Regular highway just going tweenty miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Eighty miles an hour, just just cruising. I would probably
say twelve.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Wow, you're giving that thing a lot. What was it
sex point seventy three miles to gal.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I will say it does go down a lot when
when you're on the throttle, it goes down to maybe
one or two. But as an average just kind of
cruising down the highway with you know, the cruise controlled on.
That's that's my numbers that I'm throwing out. But but
seven threes a bit.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
And the fuel injectors in this thing, I mean they're
working like a garden hose.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
All right, we're gonna take quick breaking, miss mc kank.
Show me back in a minute, Kyle. I was thinking
maybe we should get a hybrid battery and just light
it up on fire there and see how long it lasts,
and then we could do a controlled burn and and
and you know, time it and see hall alone lit.
(30:11):
Where are we going to do this thought?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I mean, we could probably do it in my backyard going.
I don't know if this drass city is going to
be you know, on board with our experiment is.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Already dead in your backyard. I've seen it, so it
doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
It's fine. I mean, I'm all for as long as
we can let the dogs out once in a while.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay, well, yeah, we'll put them out front. We'll try
to figure it out. All right, We're gonna head over Steve.
Steve's got a twenty one hybrid Ta Steve, what's up today.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
I'm not gonna get a lot of sympathy with this,
but I normally the car, the car is papered at
like thirty six miles per gallon, and I assume that's
with mixed driving and everything like that. The problem is
I always I always try and get it from the
same place, the same pump. I'm old, so I can
(31:02):
do these.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Types of things.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
But I find that out on the road my mileage
becomes inconsistent. And by playing with one of the buttons
on the control thing, it's like the end one with
two it looks like two.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Seats maybe front seat and back seat.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I can greatly improve my gas mileage. And I don't
understand it because this will I'll be looking out I'll
be going down the road and yeah, I'm going about
thirty six thirty eight miles per gallon. I'm going maybe
seventy miles an hour. And I started playing with his button,
and I can work it all the way up to
forty one. I've had it as high as forty three,
(31:42):
and I've had it there for a consistent period of
time with even the cold starts in that not cold cold,
but you know, sixty degree mornings starts, and driving it
around and I lose very little of the miles per
gallon number. I know part of that is probably because
of all the miles that have accumulated in the in
(32:04):
the meter, but it just amazes me that it's I
would I would go back to the Toyota place, but
I over the years, for the money that they get,
I find the better changing world than they are getting
intelligent information on these cars.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Okay, Well, I don't know it is?
Speaker 5 (32:24):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Is that a possibly an ECO button at all?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Well, it's it's it's got the it's got the circulator
button let the inside air out of the outside air,
but right next to it as the the other one,
and occasion it turns on by itself and I go
back and I just flutter the thing till it's off,
and that's when it starts improving. Now, that could be that.
I don't know if it's got two air conditioners in
it and one runs all the time or or what
(32:49):
the deal is, But even when the air conditioners turned
on intentionally, it still doesn't affect the gas mile it's
that much.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
That's interesting. That's because on a hybrid, that's all gonna
not really run by a belt, all going to be
run off of the air conditioning compressor is going to
be run off electricity on the back side of that. Yeah,
so I think it.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Is that the case even when you're going down the road.
I mean, if I put off the gas, the green
light comes on and I'm on uh uh EV. But normally,
if you're just driving down the road, you're running.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Off the engine, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Well not always, not always, no, No, it's it has
it has no direct belt that it hooks up to
that air conditioning compressor. It's all run basically off the backside,
hooked to the engine and the EV portion of it.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Oh, how interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of interesting. We were talking about
that earlier that some cars don't even have belts anymore,
especially the hybrid portion of it doesn't
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