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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Meet Bob. He's a four time tire rotation champion. When
he was a baby, his first words were automatic transmission fluid.
Bob's so cool he has engine coolant running through his veins.
And then there's Kyle, also known as Premium Unleaded. Legend
has it that Kyle can change your oil with his
toes and that he can tell your tires ill pressure just.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
By how you're walking out.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
He's Bob, He's Kyle, and every Saturday morning they morphed
together to form the greatest.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Superhero known to man.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Mister mechanic check engine.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Lights, don't stand a chance.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
This is the Mister Mechanics Show on eleven ten, kfab.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Great Saturday morning to you. This is a mister Mechanics show.
Uh five five, eight, eleven ten is the numbers to
get in. This is interactive call in show as you
if you listeners have heard you have got some questions,
We got some answers for you. Give us a call
and we can see we could help you out with
that project. Summer's getting He's getting darker now, you know,
(01:06):
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Kyle. It's starting to Yeah, this is my time to
shine though the season. Like when it's really hot outside.
I get done at work, I don't want to go
home to the project car. I mean I tinker with it,
and I mean I get a lot of tinkering done,
but yeah, a lot of actual concrete work.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And I haven't gotten out and driven my classic cars
because it's just too hot. Yeah. And if you got
a convertible and you drive around, you want a convertible
top down and next thing you know, you're city. So
I've done that before.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh my gosh, the vinyls just screaming hot.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, in your in your your sunburn and all the
on your head and your arms and your leg It
just it all looks goofy.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You're walking one of those straw hats and then you're
basically put the top back.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
On the car. Yeah, we're getting some cool weather so
a lot of those cars will be popping back out again.
Seeing them around. I've seen some interesting cars that are
out and it's always kind of fun to see just
the off ball odd cars, like you don't see a
lot of old Dodge pickups in vans.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
And there's no I mean, there's so many cars as
far as classic car realm. I mean, there was one
hundred times the amount of auto manufacturers. Oh yeah, part
of the last century than there is today.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I mean you go to a car show, you're gonna
see Camaros, Mustangs, Firebirds, all that stuff, fifty seven cheves.
But I mean you don't see.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And what are we gonna do? What are they gonna
do in thirty forty years when they got all the
the Tesla's and the electric cars, and I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, nobody's gonna be happy to find that in a barn.
Who we're gonna find to drag this out of here?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, yeah, because now the battery's dead. What are we
gonna do there? Well, let's see what we can do.
By that time, they'll have them all fully rebuilt. And
you can probably buy the battery restocks at ACE Hardware
something like that, you know, dot Com Yeah, yeah, yeah,
or Amazon. You can get all that stuff easily. I
tell you what. So we're in the heart of Dundee
(03:08):
and they've got Dnedee Days going on today. So you
gotta come down and jump in the parade.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And all kinds of people out there.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Get yourself some hot donuts.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
We get this once a year, Hudgeons many donut companies.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Guys, smells really good in the studio. Thanks helping us
through this show here this morning. Hudgson's many donut companies, right, yeah,
a lot off.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You can only do it once a year, and they're
just amazing. Nothing better than hot donuts. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I don't feel guilty about eating the whole bucket.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, And that's what we're gonna do. All right, We're
gonna head over to Tim. Tim's got an eighteen Mercury Mariner. Tim,
what's up today?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Hey, I got a question for you, guys. Nobody's been
able to answer me yet this Mercury. Every time I
make a left hand turn, it's like the the gas
is completely cut off from the engine. It starts stalling, choken,
wants to die. As soon as I straighten the wheel,
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it straightens out and drives fine.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
M I've seen we've seen this problem on many different vehicles.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't know that I've seen it on a Mercury
Mariner or you know, Ford Escape, but anything's possible. I
guess do you know that it's actually fuel or you're
just surmising based on how it's kind of dies and
wants to recover and react.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Basically, the engine just wants to stall out. I straighten
the wheel again, Like I can make a left hand
turn if I gas it before the turn and then
I let off the pedal and just coast around the turn.
But if I stay on the pedal, it wants to
die out.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay. The reason I asked this question, and what we
would probably do first is I'm going to put a
fuel pressure gauge on this so I can actually see
it do that. I want to visually see the pressure
go from forty five to fifteen and then come back.
That's what I'm going to want to see. The reason
I asked that question is because, well, first of all,
in the diagnostic ladder, you've got to rule things out,
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and then you write that down and say, Okay, I
know it's not that because my fuel pump is forty
five rock solid, so I know that's probably not it.
The next step is what is shifting on a wiring
loom as you're turning corners. That would probably be my
next thing that I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I'm looking at the crank censer on that one, because
that things hangs right down there in the open.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Just something that I mean, there could be something just
a little bit well and this used to happen. This
is a different car, but we used to have a
problem with the wiring loom that ran over top of
a transmission hump. I think it was on a GM,
not a transmission hunt, but right around the corner of
a sharp edge on a piece of transmission. Yeah, And
it would only act up when you did and things,
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and then as soon as that wire would rub through,
it'd be fine. When you let off the gas, then
everything was fine until you I can't remember the whole thing,
but when you breaked, the problem would happen, and then
when you let off the brakes the problem go away.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Each one of these scenarios is always somewhat different. Yeah,
But like Bob said, I mean, we're gonna narrow it down.
What are we losing here? Because fuel kind of seems
like a reach to me on this vehicle because that's
a high pressure system. So you've got a low pressure
system and a high pressure system on this car. In
the time it takes to make a right hand turn.
I mean we're talking what two three seconds? You're not
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going to run out of fuel pressure.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
And I don't I don't have this issue on right
hand turns. It's only the left hand turn.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Okay on left hand turns, but with an older vehicle,
I could see that because you got one pump. But
what Kyle's saying is you got a you got a
low pressure pump and a high pressure pump, and that
amount of.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Time you're I don't think you're going to run out
of fuel. Yeah, I mean, you know, at least maybe
in I don't know, eight of a gallon in the lines,
possibly HM. And you've got your high pressure pump that's
you know, pushing eleven hundred psi at some rpm.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But if you're going around round about, you know, then
maybe making a full round in the roundabout before you
get out, then then I can maybe see that. But
just on a short not a normal turn. I think
that's I agree with Kyle, You're just not.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I think that the first thing that I would do,
because like I say, all these scenarios always end up
being different, is I'm going to start the car and
I'm going to go under the hood and I'm going
to start grabbing wiring harnesses. Just give them a tug,
don't yank them by any means, but just move them
around enough to where you would think this would happen
normal driving.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
A lot of visual inspections.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
We find a lot of stuff by visual inspection and
just kind of grab that wire, moving around, look for
anything that might be close to something else. And then also,
and now I'm also starting to see this too. I've
seen a couple of them already. I've seen mice in
there chewing on stuff. And those yeah, those two can chew.
And when they move a corner, those two wires will
(08:12):
touch together, and that is a power and a can
bus line. And now your problem's there, so now you yeah, yeah, right, well.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
I appreciate the advice. Guys, I remember had this happened.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
With the car, So it does happen. You're not the
only one.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's gonna be a real goofy moment when you find it.
You're gonna go, how did that happen? Why is that?
And oh yeah, it just yeah, it just takes a
while to figure it out. But moving the wiring lawn
loom may alleviate your problem. And if it does alleviate
your problem, at least you know the wiring diagnostic part
of it. You know that you've done something and now
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you know it's underneath the hood. So yeah, then.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
You'll find it eventually, you know, once the wire turns
green and set a check engine light and then we'll know.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Quick question and I'll let you guys go. Could it
possibly have anything to do with the traction control because
it seems to be when I have the problem when
the traction control light comes on.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well, since it could be anywhere and causing that, and
if it's shortened to a five volte reference, sure, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, it would be a scenario like that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
A lot of times five volte references just don't go
to one thing. They'll branch off. You know, it looks
like a tree, it'll branch off to very several different things.
Without seeing a wired diagram in front of me, I
don't know, but yes, it is definitely, it's definitely possible,
you bet. Typically you'll have a problem first and then
the traction control or the skid light will come on
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secondary because it's shutting those systems off. But it could
be that that's where it's starting and that's why you're
having a problem somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
All right, Okay, I think I'm going to start there. Well,
I appreciate y'all's help. I'll get out of your way.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
So what more people can call?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
We appreciate the call, tim Yeah, wiring problems goofy things
like that, you know, And there's just a lot of
things that can happen where wires are put in a
certain spot and they should be fine, they're flexible, yeah,
but once they go over bumps and turn and corners
and whatever over a long period of time, all of
a sudden that wire that should have been flexible is
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not anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, Like taking a paper clip and you bend it
back and forth so many times it breaks off for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
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But we're going to head over to Jen's got a
twenty fifteen hondo CRV Jen? What's up today?
Speaker 9 (11:37):
I think? Are you Jerry?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Jerry? I'm sorry?
Speaker 9 (11:40):
Oh no, that's okay. Hey, I don't really have a problem.
I just want to give you guys a thank you.
I went to the fiftieth and dodged location last month
on the hottest dang day ever, and Jason in the
shop pulled the mail out man. He was dripping, but
he was the nicest courteous person you know, there was
(12:06):
so I just wanted. I told him I would call,
but every time over the weekend, you know, I'm never
in the right place at the right time to call you. Right,
Jason did a great job, and I told him you
would put in some air conditioning in those shop bait
for him.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
We need to, don't we. Well that's awesome. I appreciate
the call for sure, and thanks for hanging on the line.
But yeah, we need to it's it's it gets rough
right about that time when it's so humid out and
those guys do a great job, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
About the time we get used to it, it gets cold.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, we're just getting used to it, and now it's
kind of turning cold again, which we all we kind
of love, you know.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
Okay, we'll give him a mad boy for me.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I will, Jerry, thank you for the call. We appreciate
your business. Yeah, well that was great. Yeah, it just
there was some last week was just you're right, it
was if you were standing next to a fan in
the shop you were kind of okay. But you know,
I went outside to work on a couple of cars
in the sun and it's like boom. Immediately you're just.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, this is not good. I'm in danger.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah yeah, no, yeah, I did. I agree. I agree.
But yeah, you know that's kind of what we do.
We we fix tires. We fix tires on demand, so
you just stop in. There's no need to make appointments.
We just you pop in, we fix it and you
get in line. Sometimes you're first in line, which you
know takes ten, fifteen, twenty minutes. Sometimes you're fifth in line.
(13:34):
That takes a little while to get too. Fix a
lot of tires. All day we're fixing times. There is
a lot of stuff out in the road, you know,
and we've had a lot of rain. And you know
I've said this before, but our biggest time when we
start fixing tires is after a rain rain or snow
rainer and snow because it's all makes its way to
the gutter and then the rain washes out, the gutter
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comes across the road and we pick it up. And
I think we had went in the estra. She was
talking about the fact that how many things we've seen
in tires, and she had a piece of wood stuck
in hers because there was a wood chipper in the area.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And remember I got that really good chisel years ago,
went right through the tire, right through the wheel everything.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, broke it right.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That was a good chisel. I still got it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
A chisel, yeah, chisel.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, it's about oh ten inch long chisel. It's a
great one. I gotta still use it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, I got a pair of uh, I got a
pair of scissors. It went right through the tire. We
fixed the tire, and then I just bent the scissors back,
you know, on the vice, and I was able to
use that scissors until somebody lost them.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
For me, the strangest thing I think I've ever seen
is a lego guy. It didn't puncture the tire, it
was in the tread. I went to go do a
repair on the tire. Here's this lego guy staring at me.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I was like, oh, yeah, well, anything that's in the
road can go through the tire. I mean anything you
obviously you're gonna think something metal is gonna happen. That's
pretty obvious. But the weird ones are a set of keys.
I had a set of keys one time that still
had the ring hooked onto him, and then had other
set of keys that were in there. So it was
just one key that went in and it just caught
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right towards the edge of the tire and it was
kind of going around. We had a car car plugs,
and this is years ago.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
He hit a bungee cord on Dodge Street and it
went in a tire. Well, he kept driving all the
way to the station. The fenders all beat up and
oh it was a mess. So I was like, why
didn't you just stop or drive slower or something.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I've gotten a bungee cord in my tire. I immediately
stopped and tried to cut it off and drove it
to the fireplace.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
But yeah, yeah, because tires will when they start to
come apart like that, we'll just absolutely ruin a fender.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, they'll take the whole fender off everything.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And if it's a backfender, that's not just a fender
you pull off and replace. That's that's hard work. That's well,
that's part of the body and you got to cut
it out. And yeah, something like that happens. It turns
into thousands and thousands of dollars by the time you
paint it and do everything else. Yeah, just pull over.
And we're fixing a lot of the streets. I know,
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it's there's we're doing it seems like we're doing a
blitz here before uh summertime or for a fall rather
and we're just fixing and repaving roads like crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
For the there's nowhere I can drive around Midtown here
that there is in construction.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Which is normally a pain, but good to the fact
that we're fixing some of the roads Yeah, we're seeing progress,
seeing progress. Maybe we're going to go into UH in
the fall with not such a problem with the potholes,
because we're still there's still some out there pretty bad
getting getting along that line. I had an article here
I found that New York City and I don't know
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if we've done this article or not before. Maybe we
have New York City. Yeah, they are cracking down on
ghost plates and not having plates and or having covers
that cover the plates so that you can textually can
technically can have it. But when you drive into the
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city now you get charged with tolls because they can
see your license plate. But they can't see your license plates,
then they can't charge you all the tolls that you
need to go into the city. And they charge you
a bunch of tolls to get rid of the congestion.
So they are towing cars like crazy, fifty three hundred cars.
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Fifty three hundred cars.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
If you imagine that, I mean, because New York City
is not easy to get around, especially with a tow
truck YEP, and you're just out there picking and pulling YEP.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Twelve million in unpaid tolls and this is this is
the reason they're doing it's twelve million paid in unpaid tolls.
So they they they're doing an operation where they're just
taking all those cars. And a lot of those ghost
cars are made by, not made by, but they're the
ghost cars that aren't legally done are done in I
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don't know what I'm going to say. They were just
in crimes. I guess they were doing crimes. So all
sorts of crimes, which you would think, you know, no plates.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I got to make sure I'm up on all my
toll toll road.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, we don't have that problem here.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I'm still like last summer when we drove back east.
Uh yeah, I was getting letters in the mail for
months just oh you know, it's a buck and a quarter?
Do you want to pay this? I'm i gonna go on.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
We got one of those the other day in Massachusetts
dot I got one on.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
My credit card information for a buck and a quarter.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I threw oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I suppose it was
really light.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I was like, okay, I don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
But here I got one the other day and threw
it away because I haven't been anywhere that would have
warranted me going past the toll. Yeah, not not in
this area. It was like two months ago. Yeah, that's
not me. Yeah, nice try, I'm not paying that. You
never know though, take my dollar, yeah yeah, you always wonder.
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We're just where your credit card's going for sure. All Right,
we're gonna take a quick break on the Mister Mechanics
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Head over to Jeff real quick. He's got a twenty
four GM pickup. I just got a question about it, Jeff,
what's up?
Speaker 10 (19:25):
Hi, guys. Hey, I've been looking at pickups and one
of the things I've been considering as a GMC Sierra pickup.
But I'm noticing a lot of them are having these
four Soul in their engines now that are turbocharged, and
I'm hearing mixed reviews about them. Some people think they're
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the greatest things in splice bread, some say it's not
such a great engine. I'm just curious about what your
opinion is on those.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They're new, they're they're new, and I don't really have
a specific opinion about them as it yet because we
just haven't seen very many of them. But every line
of every truck as always the smallest engine, and they
put something in like that in order to you know,
get the get their emissions or cafe milets up. And
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that's what they use it for right now. Yeah, you
can buy them zero percent down. You see them advertised
all over the place. You know, they throw a turbo
charger on it because if they didn't, it wouldn't tow anything.
You know. I just don't know. I do know that
I've read some articles that have gone from that four
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cylinder turbo up and that he jumped over. He went
actually to a five to three, and he enjoyed the
power boost quite a bit from from the four cylinder
to the V eight, which I think you would even
with the turbo. I enjoy the the horsepower of the
six two. It has a lot of power, and that
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has a boost completely over top of the five to three. Oh,
once you go drive a four cylinder and then go
drive a six to two, I think your decision will
be made pretty easily, right, pretty easily.
Speaker 10 (21:11):
All right, Well, thank you, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You bet, I appreciate the call. All Right, We're gonna
head over to Larry. Larry's got a ninety s h O.
Larry what's up today?
Speaker 11 (21:21):
Nothing match, I just want to give you an update
on h MO Ford Taurus. Yeah, the dog on Pulley
on the end, the crank shaft that drives the timing
belt was kind of moving moving around on there. Sometimes
it'd be way out of time when we're runningere of
the darn. Other times it'd run kind of sort of
good mhm.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
So it's just kind of was was moving back and forth,
not not in and out so much, but back and forth.
And that that keyway was what getting soft and something
along that line, or just got beat up.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Over the guy.
Speaker 11 (21:52):
The guy thought of written crank shaft, but he was
able to salvage crank shaft. He cleaned it up and
put a new ty in it. Got me going, putting
new diving belt on it and runs like a bat.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know. Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
I wanted to ask you a question about headlights. I've
got a ninety five Shivy van. The headlights are left.
They're a side by each on both sides. There's two
on each side, and when I turn on the high beams,
the low beams go off. Can I wire relays and
make them all four come on at the same time.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh, I'm sure you can.
Speaker 11 (22:30):
Would that be a big headache?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
No, No, you can just yeah, you can wire in
relays and make them come on you just want them,
because I think they normally do that. They go off
high beams and I don't know. They switch around so
much it's hard to tell. Sometimes they'll they'll low beams
and high beams will come on for everything. But I
think the low beams went off on that and the
high beams came on. But yeah, you certainly can. You
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certainly can't.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
Beg Yeah, I've got a I bought a kid uh
wiring harness kit and it wasn't for that van. It
was one headlight on each side. And then when they
figured it out, I had to prove it to an
LMC truck and then they just end up just giving
it to me.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
So are you just looking for more light back? You
know a lot of people just will add those big
led bars in the front bumper or in that. They'll
kind of I see them stick them in the grill too,
and just kind of turn them on for extra light.
And those things are amazing. It goes from dark to
absolutely light and uh yeah yeah, And if you kind
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of cut out a certain part of the grill and
just kind of stick it in there and hide. It
almost looks like it's esthetically perfect, except for when you
turn it on you can see everything now, everything from
the tops of the trees to the gravel in the road.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You could do surgery on the highway with these, like.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Debgon, how big a one you get? Yep, you lose
a little bit of cooling, But if you put it
in the right spot, you know, maybe it does isn't
so bad. You don't want to blog, yeah, but yeah,
that'll work. You just had to get the wiring diagram
out and figure it out.
Speaker 11 (24:10):
Thank you guys, love your show.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Appreciate you listening, Appreciate the call. You know, last week
we were talking a little bit Kyle about the gentleman
that had called on the I think it was the
F two fifty. Yeah, ninety nine F two fifty was
missfiring on half of the firing order. You know. I
did a little bit of investigation on this. It was Jason.
I don't know if Jason's listened or not. It takes
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there's four different bin numbers to goes to this particular engine,
so I just kind of went through the wiring diagram
and took a look, and this kind of just goes
to show just how things are wired and what engineer
decides it wants to go here, or maybe it's not him.
They got a committee of what needs to be done.
But part of this firing order is it all goes
(24:55):
to the computer, and part of this firing order is
on one connector has the firing order on one side,
and then there's a totally different connector where all inside
the computer and a different board somewhere has all the
other wiring that goes on there for the other side.
So and that there's some there were some grounds that
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goes to that particular connector for the one side of
the block, and then there's grounds that go to the
other connector for the other side of the block. And
I don't necessary Again, I don't know exactly what engine
was in there, because the firing orders could change, maybe
just a little bit, so it's hard to know for sure.
(25:40):
And it's I don't know why they have to have
an s w M four and six, you know it
just I guess that's five, But it's uh, something's changed
a little bit, and each little one. So I encourage
you if he hadn't before. Maybe to go get a
find out what the fifth or excuse me, the eighth
(26:00):
is in the digit and the code for the bin number,
find a wiring diagram and kind of follow it from there.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Oh yeah, it's Fords around that era were always drastically changing.
I mean for years, I mean Ford, I mean everything
was interchangeable, and everything was somewhat the same. But I
mean were somewhere around ninety nine to twenty ten, Ford.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Just well, they're changing body styles. Yeah, they were changing this,
changing that, changing the engines, changing the engines, thank god.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
And then no, from ninety nine it didn't get any better.
It didn't get any better. Twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And then also as we were talking, there was problems
that they had where the windshields would leak and then
we'd go down into the Sola computer. Yeah, the whole
foot rail.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
You wouldn't even your carpet wouldn't get wet for a while.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Fuse box, we had a fuse box get wet, which
can blow fuses and cause other green wiring, and then
that causes another connection. So that is that was a problem.
But it just I just thought I would look through
that and try to help him just a little bit
further into where it's at. But you know, that's it's
just amazing when you get into wiring diagram, it's like
(27:17):
why do we do this? And usually when we follow
stuff like that in a wiring diagram, you can see
everything heading to one connector, and this was odd that
it was going to two separate connectors, and we just
really had to fish through the head a little bit
of time and decided to fish through and just kind
of see where it went.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Because normally, I mean an auto manufacturer, I mean most computers,
I mean, let's talk about GM. I mean, for the
most part, I mean you've either got two or four
plug ins on a GM computer and you'll have either
one input and one output connector or two input and
two output connectors. And they're generally pretty easy to determine,
(27:56):
you know, which is which because you're going to have
heavier wires on your inputs. Those are your heavy power cables, grounds,
et cetera, the stuff you want gauge wire for the
thinner wires those are your outputs. You know, they aren't
really handling crazy amounts of load, No.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
They're having ground. They're triggering ground on it. Off most times, and.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Some of these cards, I mean, even like modern cards
like today, like the news stuff, I mean, everything is
getting like we're pulling wiring diagrams for simple what should
be simple circuits, like a horn circuit. The I had
three wiring diagrams the other day to figure out this horn.
I'm like, it's just a horn. Ground the thing on
steering wheel and be done with it.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's what it was in the old days.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, you had to relay it in your horn button
grounded it.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Now you go there, you go. Then you go through
a clock spring and you got to go through.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
A column control module, cruise control control module, BCEM underhood
fuse block that is also a module out to a
horn that's the same horn that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
We've used for years. And a module is just a
fancy way of saying there's a computer board on that
that makes decisions or something along that line. And that's
kind of why a lot of times that and that's
not a lot of times, but most of the time anymore,
you get charged in diagnostic feeds in order to figure
out what this is because you've got time at the
(29:21):
computer to find a wired diagram for your specific problem,
for your particular car, and then you've got time to
go chase it down to where that's at, and that's
just all time lost and in order to figure out
specifically where it's at. We used to have one computer
back in nineteen eighty. Oh yeah, now we've got what
they consider a computer. We've got fifty yep, exactly, exactly,
(29:45):
all right, we're gonna take quick break in the Mister
Mechanics show. We'll be back in a minute. We're gonna
head over to Greg. Greg's got a twenty twelve super outback. Greg,
what's the problem today.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Yeah, say, a couple of weeks ago, I changed the
spark plugs on it, got the six, I guess, change
the spark plugs. And I noticed the injectors and the
and take gaskets were leaking a little bit, I suppose,
so I change those out. Now I'm getting some codes, right,
(30:20):
P zero one zero eight does the map sensor is high?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
And A P zero five zero A cold start title
air control system.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
I'm not sure if it's something I left unplugged, I
can't find anything.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
So your code. Let's start with your map center code.
So it said circuit high, right, yep okay, so yeah,
it's high. Generally when a circuit goes high, and this
can go one of either either way, because it's going
to depend on the computer if it has a pull
(30:57):
up or pull down resistor on that circuit. So this
has a pull up. So my guess is ninety percent
of the time when I see this, something's unplugged or
you've got an open wire. Okay, because your circuit is
reading its full potential, it's reading five volts. The map
sensor pulls that voltage down and that's what gets your reading.
(31:18):
So I would guess that it's unplugged if you had
it off.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
It may not be unplugged to the point where you
look at it and go it just may not be
pushed all the way in.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Because I've had it. I've had it off and on
several times looking at it and even yeah, the reading
on it doesn't change. I don't know if that should
change at all if it's unplugged.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Look at the connector see see if a wire pushed
back out, because these are all it's all plastic stuff
with metal pins on the inside, and you might have
pushed it in and the plastic broke, and now when
you push in one pin is pushed back maybe an
eighth event, Yeah, an eighth event inch. So you're connecting
(32:04):
it correctly and sounds like but it sounds like it's
just maybe not making it all the way there. So
a lot of times what you do is look at
the end and then make sure you put your fingers
on the end of the wires, on the end of
the connector, and then push it in. Then you can
feel if it starts, is trying to push itself back out.
So that's one possibility.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
But yeah, generally a high circuit would the first thing
I'm looking to see is is it unplugged, and then
I'm gonna test it is we know we're going to
have five volts of the map sensor, and that's what
the circuit's looking for. So yeah, odds are it's seeing
your computer seeing five volts even which would indicate that
(32:45):
it's high because it should draw it down, you know,
give or take what size resistors in this map sensor.
I mean it could cut it in half to two
and a half volts, I mean something like that. But yeah,
it's probably gonna be something easy like that.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
So did you go change the plugs just because it
was time to do it, or or this was a
problem to start.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
With, Well we bought that. Now we bought the car,
got two hundred thousand miles on it, and I just thought, well,
let's do this, not sure if the other person had
done it or not sure. The ones that came out
looked fine, but I still put the new ones in
and it runs great. I mean it still runs fine.
So everything flashing on the dash.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So this is a created problem. This was nothing that
was there before, Okay, which is going to be an
easier problem to fix because it's something you did. And
all you got to is take a giant step backwards
and just start looking over everything and and be now
that you've you've already looked it over and pulled it
off and on and off and on. Now now get
(33:50):
more specific and look at everything really close, and then
you'll find your problem.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
How bad? Uh, and I had I didn't take manifold
off the gaskets for that. If one of those wasn't
seated correctly with that, just map problems or not, or
if there's.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
A big vacuum leak to it, you're gonna you're gonna
have lean code, You're gonna have a po one seventy one.
With that particular issue, your idol would be poor, it
would surge things like that, or it would just fall
on its face and die.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Don't feel too don't feel too bad. We've all done it.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Oh, I do it all the time, you know, I
mean all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Even the professionals do it just because it's it's just
things happen. That's just part of part of fixing cars.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Probably check check the plug in. But this is this
cold Star controller system. The P zero five zero age caused.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
From it very well could be caused because the map
sensor isn't reading at startup right, So if you're not
getting a reading on that, I mean, let's let's take
the one that's first. Yes, let's get our map sensor
working good, and I'm sure the rest of it's going
to just go
Meet Bob. He's a four time tire rotation champion. When
he was a baby, his first words were automatic transmission fluid.
Bob's so cool he has engine coolant running through his veins.
And then there's Kyle, also known as Premium Unleaded. Legend
has it that Kyle can change your oil with his
toes and that he can tell your tires ill pressure just.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
By how you're walking out.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
Great Saturday morning to you. This is a mister Mechanics show.
Uh five five, eight, eleven ten is the numbers to
get in. This is interactive call in show as you
if you listeners have heard you have got some questions,
We got some answers for you. Give us a call
and we can see we could help you out with
that project. Summer's getting He's getting darker now, you know,
(01:06):
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Kyle. It's starting to Yeah, this is my time to
shine though the season. Like when it's really hot outside.
I get done at work, I don't want to go
home to the project car. I mean I tinker with it,
and I mean I get a lot of tinkering done,
but yeah, a lot of actual concrete work.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And I haven't gotten out and driven my classic cars
because it's just too hot. Yeah. And if you got
a convertible and you drive around, you want a convertible
top down and next thing you know, you're city. So
I've done that before.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh my gosh, the vinyls just screaming hot.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, in your in your your sunburn and all the
on your head and your arms and your leg It
just it all looks goofy.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You're walking one of those straw hats and then you're
basically put the top back.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
On the car. Yeah, we're getting some cool weather so
a lot of those cars will be popping back out again.
Seeing them around. I've seen some interesting cars that are
out and it's always kind of fun to see just
the off ball odd cars, like you don't see a
lot of old Dodge pickups in vans.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
And there's no I mean, there's so many cars as
far as classic car realm. I mean, there was one
hundred times the amount of auto manufacturers. Oh yeah, part
of the last century than there is today.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I mean you go to a car show, you're gonna
see Camaros, Mustangs, Firebirds, all that stuff, fifty seven cheves.
But I mean you don't see.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
And what are we gonna do? What are they gonna
do in thirty forty years when they got all the
the Tesla's and the electric cars, and I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, nobody's gonna be happy to find that in a barn.
Who we're gonna find to drag this out of here?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, yeah, because now the battery's dead. What are we
gonna do there? Well, let's see what we can do.
By that time, they'll have them all fully rebuilt. And
you can probably buy the battery restocks at ACE Hardware
something like that, you know, dot Com Yeah, yeah, yeah,
or Amazon. You can get all that stuff easily. I
tell you what. So we're in the heart of Dundee
(03:08):
and they've got Dnedee Days going on today. So you
gotta come down and jump in the parade.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And all kinds of people out there.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Get yourself some hot donuts.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
We get this once a year, Hudgeons many donut companies.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Guys, smells really good in the studio. Thanks helping us
through this show here this morning. Hudgson's many donut companies, right, yeah,
a lot off.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
You can only do it once a year, and they're
just amazing. Nothing better than hot donuts. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
I don't feel guilty about eating the whole bucket.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
No, And that's what we're gonna do. All right, We're
gonna head over to Tim. Tim's got an eighteen Mercury Mariner. Tim,
what's up today?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Hey, I got a question for you, guys. Nobody's been
able to answer me yet this Mercury. Every time I
make a left hand turn, it's like the the gas
is completely cut off from the engine. It starts stalling, choken,
wants to die. As soon as I straighten the wheel,
(04:05):
it straightens out and drives fine.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
M I've seen we've seen this problem on many different vehicles.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't know that I've seen it on a Mercury
Mariner or you know, Ford Escape, but anything's possible. I
guess do you know that it's actually fuel or you're
just surmising based on how it's kind of dies and
wants to recover and react.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Basically, the engine just wants to stall out. I straighten
the wheel again, Like I can make a left hand
turn if I gas it before the turn and then
I let off the pedal and just coast around the turn.
But if I stay on the pedal, it wants to
die out.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay. The reason I asked this question, and what we
would probably do first is I'm going to put a
fuel pressure gauge on this so I can actually see
it do that. I want to visually see the pressure
go from forty five to fifteen and then come back.
That's what I'm going to want to see. The reason
I asked that question is because, well, first of all,
in the diagnostic ladder, you've got to rule things out,
(05:13):
and then you write that down and say, Okay, I
know it's not that because my fuel pump is forty
five rock solid, so I know that's probably not it.
The next step is what is shifting on a wiring
loom as you're turning corners. That would probably be my
next thing that I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I'm looking at the crank censer on that one, because
that things hangs right down there in the open.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Just something that I mean, there could be something just
a little bit well and this used to happen. This
is a different car, but we used to have a
problem with the wiring loom that ran over top of
a transmission hump. I think it was on a GM,
not a transmission hunt, but right around the corner of
a sharp edge on a piece of transmission. Yeah, And
it would only act up when you did and things,
(06:00):
and then as soon as that wire would rub through,
it'd be fine. When you let off the gas, then
everything was fine until you I can't remember the whole thing,
but when you breaked, the problem would happen, and then
when you let off the brakes the problem go away.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Each one of these scenarios is always somewhat different. Yeah,
But like Bob said, I mean, we're gonna narrow it down.
What are we losing here? Because fuel kind of seems
like a reach to me on this vehicle because that's
a high pressure system. So you've got a low pressure
system and a high pressure system on this car. In
the time it takes to make a right hand turn.
I mean we're talking what two three seconds? You're not
(06:37):
going to run out of fuel pressure.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
And I don't I don't have this issue on right
hand turns. It's only the left hand turn.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Okay on left hand turns, but with an older vehicle,
I could see that because you got one pump. But
what Kyle's saying is you got a you got a
low pressure pump and a high pressure pump, and that
amount of.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Time you're I don't think you're going to run out
of fuel. Yeah, I mean, you know, at least maybe
in I don't know, eight of a gallon in the lines,
possibly HM. And you've got your high pressure pump that's
you know, pushing eleven hundred psi at some rpm.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But if you're going around round about, you know, then
maybe making a full round in the roundabout before you
get out, then then I can maybe see that. But
just on a short not a normal turn. I think
that's I agree with Kyle, You're just not.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I think that the first thing that I would do,
because like I say, all these scenarios always end up
being different, is I'm going to start the car and
I'm going to go under the hood and I'm going
to start grabbing wiring harnesses. Just give them a tug,
don't yank them by any means, but just move them
around enough to where you would think this would happen
normal driving.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
A lot of visual inspections.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
We find a lot of stuff by visual inspection and
just kind of grab that wire, moving around, look for
anything that might be close to something else. And then also,
and now I'm also starting to see this too. I've
seen a couple of them already. I've seen mice in
there chewing on stuff. And those yeah, those two can chew.
And when they move a corner, those two wires will
(08:12):
touch together, and that is a power and a can
bus line. And now your problem's there, so now you yeah, yeah, right, well.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
I appreciate the advice. Guys, I remember had this happened.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
With the car, So it does happen. You're not the
only one.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's gonna be a real goofy moment when you find it.
You're gonna go, how did that happen? Why is that?
And oh yeah, it just yeah, it just takes a
while to figure it out. But moving the wiring lawn
loom may alleviate your problem. And if it does alleviate
your problem, at least you know the wiring diagnostic part
of it. You know that you've done something and now
(08:50):
you know it's underneath the hood. So yeah, then.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
You'll find it eventually, you know, once the wire turns
green and set a check engine light and then we'll know.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Quick question and I'll let you guys go. Could it
possibly have anything to do with the traction control because
it seems to be when I have the problem when
the traction control light comes on.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well, since it could be anywhere and causing that, and
if it's shortened to a five volte reference, sure, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, it would be a scenario like that.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
A lot of times five volte references just don't go
to one thing. They'll branch off. You know, it looks
like a tree, it'll branch off to very several different things.
Without seeing a wired diagram in front of me, I
don't know, but yes, it is definitely, it's definitely possible,
you bet. Typically you'll have a problem first and then
the traction control or the skid light will come on
(09:47):
secondary because it's shutting those systems off. But it could
be that that's where it's starting and that's why you're
having a problem somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
All right, Okay, I think I'm going to start there. Well,
I appreciate y'all's help. I'll get out of your way.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
So what more people can call?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
We appreciate the call, tim Yeah, wiring problems goofy things
like that, you know, And there's just a lot of
things that can happen where wires are put in a
certain spot and they should be fine, they're flexible, yeah,
but once they go over bumps and turn and corners
and whatever over a long period of time, all of
a sudden that wire that should have been flexible is
(10:25):
not anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah, Like taking a paper clip and you bend it
back and forth so many times it breaks off for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
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But we're going to head over to Jen's got a
twenty fifteen hondo CRV Jen? What's up today?
Speaker 9 (11:37):
I think? Are you Jerry?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Jerry? I'm sorry?
Speaker 9 (11:40):
Oh no, that's okay. Hey, I don't really have a problem.
I just want to give you guys a thank you.
I went to the fiftieth and dodged location last month
on the hottest dang day ever, and Jason in the
shop pulled the mail out man. He was dripping, but
he was the nicest courteous person you know, there was
(12:06):
so I just wanted. I told him I would call,
but every time over the weekend, you know, I'm never
in the right place at the right time to call you. Right,
Jason did a great job, and I told him you
would put in some air conditioning in those shop bait
for him.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
We need to, don't we. Well that's awesome. I appreciate
the call for sure, and thanks for hanging on the line.
But yeah, we need to it's it's it gets rough
right about that time when it's so humid out and
those guys do a great job, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
About the time we get used to it, it gets cold.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, we're just getting used to it, and now it's
kind of turning cold again, which we all we kind
of love, you know.
Speaker 9 (12:47):
Okay, we'll give him a mad boy for me.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I will, Jerry, thank you for the call. We appreciate
your business. Yeah, well that was great. Yeah, it just
there was some last week was just you're right, it
was if you were standing next to a fan in
the shop you were kind of okay. But you know,
I went outside to work on a couple of cars
in the sun and it's like boom. Immediately you're just.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah, this is not good. I'm in danger.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah yeah, no, yeah, I did. I agree. I agree.
But yeah, you know that's kind of what we do.
We we fix tires. We fix tires on demand, so
you just stop in. There's no need to make appointments.
We just you pop in, we fix it and you
get in line. Sometimes you're first in line, which you
know takes ten, fifteen, twenty minutes. Sometimes you're fifth in line.
(13:34):
That takes a little while to get too. Fix a
lot of tires. All day we're fixing times. There is
a lot of stuff out in the road, you know,
and we've had a lot of rain. And you know
I've said this before, but our biggest time when we
start fixing tires is after a rain rain or snow
rainer and snow because it's all makes its way to
the gutter and then the rain washes out, the gutter
(13:54):
comes across the road and we pick it up. And
I think we had went in the estra. She was
talking about the fact that how many things we've seen
in tires, and she had a piece of wood stuck
in hers because there was a wood chipper in the area.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And remember I got that really good chisel years ago,
went right through the tire, right through the wheel everything.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, broke it right.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That was a good chisel. I still got it.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
A chisel, yeah, chisel.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, it's about oh ten inch long chisel. It's a
great one. I gotta still use it.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, I got a pair of uh, I got a
pair of scissors. It went right through the tire. We
fixed the tire, and then I just bent the scissors back,
you know, on the vice, and I was able to
use that scissors until somebody lost them.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
For me, the strangest thing I think I've ever seen
is a lego guy. It didn't puncture the tire, it
was in the tread. I went to go do a
repair on the tire. Here's this lego guy staring at me.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I was like, oh, yeah, well, anything that's in the
road can go through the tire. I mean anything you
obviously you're gonna think something metal is gonna happen. That's
pretty obvious. But the weird ones are a set of keys.
I had a set of keys one time that still
had the ring hooked onto him, and then had other
set of keys that were in there. So it was
just one key that went in and it just caught
(15:07):
right towards the edge of the tire and it was
kind of going around. We had a car car plugs,
and this is years ago.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
He hit a bungee cord on Dodge Street and it
went in a tire. Well, he kept driving all the
way to the station. The fenders all beat up and
oh it was a mess. So I was like, why
didn't you just stop or drive slower or something.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
I've gotten a bungee cord in my tire. I immediately
stopped and tried to cut it off and drove it
to the fireplace.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
But yeah, yeah, because tires will when they start to
come apart like that, we'll just absolutely ruin a fender.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah, they'll take the whole fender off everything.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
And if it's a backfender, that's not just a fender
you pull off and replace. That's that's hard work. That's well,
that's part of the body and you got to cut
it out. And yeah, something like that happens. It turns
into thousands and thousands of dollars by the time you
paint it and do everything else. Yeah, just pull over.
And we're fixing a lot of the streets. I know,
(16:04):
it's there's we're doing it seems like we're doing a
blitz here before uh summertime or for a fall rather
and we're just fixing and repaving roads like crazy.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
For the there's nowhere I can drive around Midtown here
that there is in construction.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Which is normally a pain, but good to the fact
that we're fixing some of the roads Yeah, we're seeing progress,
seeing progress. Maybe we're going to go into UH in
the fall with not such a problem with the potholes,
because we're still there's still some out there pretty bad
getting getting along that line. I had an article here
I found that New York City and I don't know
(16:40):
if we've done this article or not before. Maybe we
have New York City. Yeah, they are cracking down on
ghost plates and not having plates and or having covers
that cover the plates so that you can textually can
technically can have it. But when you drive into the
(17:01):
city now you get charged with tolls because they can
see your license plate. But they can't see your license plates,
then they can't charge you all the tolls that you
need to go into the city. And they charge you
a bunch of tolls to get rid of the congestion.
So they are towing cars like crazy, fifty three hundred cars.
(17:23):
Fifty three hundred cars.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
If you imagine that, I mean, because New York City
is not easy to get around, especially with a tow
truck YEP, and you're just out there picking and pulling YEP.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Twelve million in unpaid tolls and this is this is
the reason they're doing it's twelve million paid in unpaid tolls.
So they they they're doing an operation where they're just
taking all those cars. And a lot of those ghost
cars are made by, not made by, but they're the
ghost cars that aren't legally done are done in I
(18:02):
don't know what I'm going to say. They were just
in crimes. I guess they were doing crimes. So all
sorts of crimes, which you would think, you know, no plates.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I got to make sure I'm up on all my
toll toll road.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, we don't have that problem here.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I'm still like last summer when we drove back east.
Uh yeah, I was getting letters in the mail for
months just oh you know, it's a buck and a quarter?
Do you want to pay this? I'm i gonna go on.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
We got one of those the other day in Massachusetts
dot I got one on.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
My credit card information for a buck and a quarter.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
I threw oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I suppose it was
really light.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I was like, okay, I don't even remember.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
But here I got one the other day and threw
it away because I haven't been anywhere that would have
warranted me going past the toll. Yeah, not not in
this area. It was like two months ago. Yeah, that's
not me. Yeah, nice try, I'm not paying that. You
never know though, take my dollar, yeah yeah, you always wonder.
(19:08):
We're just where your credit card's going for sure. All Right,
we're gonna take a quick break on the Mister Mechanics
Show five, five, eight to eleven, tens and numbers for
to get in and we'll be back in a minute.
Head over to Jeff real quick. He's got a twenty
four GM pickup. I just got a question about it, Jeff,
what's up?
Speaker 10 (19:25):
Hi, guys. Hey, I've been looking at pickups and one
of the things I've been considering as a GMC Sierra pickup.
But I'm noticing a lot of them are having these
four Soul in their engines now that are turbocharged, and
I'm hearing mixed reviews about them. Some people think they're
(19:46):
the greatest things in splice bread, some say it's not
such a great engine. I'm just curious about what your
opinion is on those.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They're new, they're they're new, and I don't really have
a specific opinion about them as it yet because we
just haven't seen very many of them. But every line
of every truck as always the smallest engine, and they
put something in like that in order to you know,
get the get their emissions or cafe milets up. And
(20:15):
that's what they use it for right now. Yeah, you
can buy them zero percent down. You see them advertised
all over the place. You know, they throw a turbo
charger on it because if they didn't, it wouldn't tow anything.
You know. I just don't know. I do know that
I've read some articles that have gone from that four
(20:35):
cylinder turbo up and that he jumped over. He went
actually to a five to three, and he enjoyed the
power boost quite a bit from from the four cylinder
to the V eight, which I think you would even
with the turbo. I enjoy the the horsepower of the
six two. It has a lot of power, and that
(20:56):
has a boost completely over top of the five to three. Oh,
once you go drive a four cylinder and then go
drive a six to two, I think your decision will
be made pretty easily, right, pretty easily.
Speaker 10 (21:11):
All right, Well, thank you, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You bet, I appreciate the call. All Right, We're gonna
head over to Larry. Larry's got a ninety s h O.
Larry what's up today?
Speaker 11 (21:21):
Nothing match, I just want to give you an update
on h MO Ford Taurus. Yeah, the dog on Pulley
on the end, the crank shaft that drives the timing
belt was kind of moving moving around on there. Sometimes
it'd be way out of time when we're runningere of
the darn. Other times it'd run kind of sort of
good mhm.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
So it's just kind of was was moving back and forth,
not not in and out so much, but back and forth.
And that that keyway was what getting soft and something
along that line, or just got beat up.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Over the guy.
Speaker 11 (21:52):
The guy thought of written crank shaft, but he was
able to salvage crank shaft. He cleaned it up and
put a new ty in it. Got me going, putting
new diving belt on it and runs like a bat.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know. Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 11 (22:06):
I wanted to ask you a question about headlights. I've
got a ninety five Shivy van. The headlights are left.
They're a side by each on both sides. There's two
on each side, and when I turn on the high beams,
the low beams go off. Can I wire relays and
make them all four come on at the same time.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Oh, I'm sure you can.
Speaker 11 (22:30):
Would that be a big headache?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
No, No, you can just yeah, you can wire in
relays and make them come on you just want them,
because I think they normally do that. They go off
high beams and I don't know. They switch around so
much it's hard to tell. Sometimes they'll they'll low beams
and high beams will come on for everything. But I
think the low beams went off on that and the
high beams came on. But yeah, you certainly can. You
(22:55):
certainly can't.
Speaker 11 (22:56):
Beg Yeah, I've got a I bought a kid uh
wiring harness kit and it wasn't for that van. It
was one headlight on each side. And then when they
figured it out, I had to prove it to an
LMC truck and then they just end up just giving
it to me.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
So are you just looking for more light back? You
know a lot of people just will add those big
led bars in the front bumper or in that. They'll
kind of I see them stick them in the grill too,
and just kind of turn them on for extra light.
And those things are amazing. It goes from dark to
absolutely light and uh yeah yeah, And if you kind
(23:36):
of cut out a certain part of the grill and
just kind of stick it in there and hide. It
almost looks like it's esthetically perfect, except for when you
turn it on you can see everything now, everything from
the tops of the trees to the gravel in the road.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
You could do surgery on the highway with these, like.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Debgon, how big a one you get? Yep, you lose
a little bit of cooling, But if you put it
in the right spot, you know, maybe it does isn't
so bad. You don't want to blog, yeah, but yeah,
that'll work. You just had to get the wiring diagram
out and figure it out.
Speaker 11 (24:10):
Thank you guys, love your show.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Appreciate you listening, Appreciate the call. You know, last week
we were talking a little bit Kyle about the gentleman
that had called on the I think it was the
F two fifty. Yeah, ninety nine F two fifty was
missfiring on half of the firing order. You know. I
did a little bit of investigation on this. It was Jason.
I don't know if Jason's listened or not. It takes
(24:32):
there's four different bin numbers to goes to this particular engine,
so I just kind of went through the wiring diagram
and took a look, and this kind of just goes
to show just how things are wired and what engineer
decides it wants to go here, or maybe it's not him.
They got a committee of what needs to be done.
But part of this firing order is it all goes
(24:55):
to the computer, and part of this firing order is
on one connector has the firing order on one side,
and then there's a totally different connector where all inside
the computer and a different board somewhere has all the
other wiring that goes on there for the other side.
So and that there's some there were some grounds that
(25:18):
goes to that particular connector for the one side of
the block, and then there's grounds that go to the
other connector for the other side of the block. And
I don't necessary Again, I don't know exactly what engine
was in there, because the firing orders could change, maybe
just a little bit, so it's hard to know for sure.
(25:40):
And it's I don't know why they have to have
an s w M four and six, you know it
just I guess that's five, But it's uh, something's changed
a little bit, and each little one. So I encourage
you if he hadn't before. Maybe to go get a
find out what the fifth or excuse me, the eighth
(26:00):
is in the digit and the code for the bin number,
find a wiring diagram and kind of follow it from there.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Oh yeah, it's Fords around that era were always drastically changing.
I mean for years, I mean Ford, I mean everything
was interchangeable, and everything was somewhat the same. But I
mean were somewhere around ninety nine to twenty ten, Ford.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Just well, they're changing body styles. Yeah, they were changing this,
changing that, changing the engines, changing the engines, thank god.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
And then no, from ninety nine it didn't get any better.
It didn't get any better. Twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
And then also as we were talking, there was problems
that they had where the windshields would leak and then
we'd go down into the Sola computer. Yeah, the whole
foot rail.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
You wouldn't even your carpet wouldn't get wet for a while.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Fuse box, we had a fuse box get wet, which
can blow fuses and cause other green wiring, and then
that causes another connection. So that is that was a problem.
But it just I just thought I would look through
that and try to help him just a little bit
further into where it's at. But you know, that's it's
just amazing when you get into wiring diagram, it's like
(27:17):
why do we do this? And usually when we follow
stuff like that in a wiring diagram, you can see
everything heading to one connector, and this was odd that
it was going to two separate connectors, and we just
really had to fish through the head a little bit
of time and decided to fish through and just kind
of see where it went.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Because normally, I mean an auto manufacturer, I mean most computers,
I mean, let's talk about GM. I mean, for the
most part, I mean you've either got two or four
plug ins on a GM computer and you'll have either
one input and one output connector or two input and
two output connectors. And they're generally pretty easy to determine,
(27:56):
you know, which is which because you're going to have
heavier wires on your inputs. Those are your heavy power cables, grounds,
et cetera, the stuff you want gauge wire for the
thinner wires those are your outputs. You know, they aren't
really handling crazy amounts of load, No.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
They're having ground. They're triggering ground on it. Off most times, and.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Some of these cards, I mean, even like modern cards
like today, like the news stuff, I mean, everything is
getting like we're pulling wiring diagrams for simple what should
be simple circuits, like a horn circuit. The I had
three wiring diagrams the other day to figure out this horn.
I'm like, it's just a horn. Ground the thing on
steering wheel and be done with it.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's what it was in the old days.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, you had to relay it in your horn button
grounded it.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Now you go there, you go. Then you go through
a clock spring and you got to go through.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
A column control module, cruise control control module, BCEM underhood
fuse block that is also a module out to a
horn that's the same horn that.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
We've used for years. And a module is just a
fancy way of saying there's a computer board on that
that makes decisions or something along that line. And that's
kind of why a lot of times that and that's
not a lot of times, but most of the time anymore,
you get charged in diagnostic feeds in order to figure
out what this is because you've got time at the
(29:21):
computer to find a wired diagram for your specific problem,
for your particular car, and then you've got time to
go chase it down to where that's at, and that's
just all time lost and in order to figure out
specifically where it's at. We used to have one computer
back in nineteen eighty. Oh yeah, now we've got what
they consider a computer. We've got fifty yep, exactly, exactly,
(29:45):
all right, we're gonna take quick break in the Mister
Mechanics show. We'll be back in a minute. We're gonna
head over to Greg. Greg's got a twenty twelve super outback. Greg,
what's the problem today.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Yeah, say, a couple of weeks ago, I changed the
spark plugs on it, got the six, I guess, change
the spark plugs. And I noticed the injectors and the
and take gaskets were leaking a little bit, I suppose,
so I change those out. Now I'm getting some codes, right,
(30:20):
P zero one zero eight does the map sensor is high?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
And A P zero five zero A cold start title
air control system.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
I'm not sure if it's something I left unplugged, I
can't find anything.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
So your code. Let's start with your map center code.
So it said circuit high, right, yep okay, so yeah,
it's high. Generally when a circuit goes high, and this
can go one of either either way, because it's going
to depend on the computer if it has a pull
(30:57):
up or pull down resistor on that circuit. So this
has a pull up. So my guess is ninety percent
of the time when I see this, something's unplugged or
you've got an open wire. Okay, because your circuit is
reading its full potential, it's reading five volts. The map
sensor pulls that voltage down and that's what gets your reading.
(31:18):
So I would guess that it's unplugged if you had
it off.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
It may not be unplugged to the point where you
look at it and go it just may not be
pushed all the way in.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
Because I've had it. I've had it off and on
several times looking at it and even yeah, the reading
on it doesn't change. I don't know if that should
change at all if it's unplugged.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Look at the connector see see if a wire pushed
back out, because these are all it's all plastic stuff
with metal pins on the inside, and you might have
pushed it in and the plastic broke, and now when
you push in one pin is pushed back maybe an
eighth event, Yeah, an eighth event inch. So you're connecting
(32:04):
it correctly and sounds like but it sounds like it's
just maybe not making it all the way there. So
a lot of times what you do is look at
the end and then make sure you put your fingers
on the end of the wires, on the end of
the connector, and then push it in. Then you can
feel if it starts, is trying to push itself back out.
So that's one possibility.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
But yeah, generally a high circuit would the first thing
I'm looking to see is is it unplugged, and then
I'm gonna test it is we know we're going to
have five volts of the map sensor, and that's what
the circuit's looking for. So yeah, odds are it's seeing
your computer seeing five volts even which would indicate that
(32:45):
it's high because it should draw it down, you know,
give or take what size resistors in this map sensor.
I mean it could cut it in half to two
and a half volts, I mean something like that. But yeah,
it's probably gonna be something easy like that.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
So did you go change the plugs just because it
was time to do it, or or this was a
problem to start.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
With, Well we bought that. Now we bought the car,
got two hundred thousand miles on it, and I just thought, well,
let's do this, not sure if the other person had
done it or not sure. The ones that came out
looked fine, but I still put the new ones in
and it runs great. I mean it still runs fine.
So everything flashing on the dash.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So this is a created problem. This was nothing that
was there before, Okay, which is going to be an
easier problem to fix because it's something you did. And
all you got to is take a giant step backwards
and just start looking over everything and and be now
that you've you've already looked it over and pulled it
off and on and off and on. Now now get
(33:50):
more specific and look at everything really close, and then
you'll find your problem.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
How bad? Uh, and I had I didn't take manifold
off the gaskets for that. If one of those wasn't
seated correctly with that, just map problems or not, or
if there's.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
A big vacuum leak to it, you're gonna you're gonna
have lean code, You're gonna have a po one seventy one.
With that particular issue, your idol would be poor, it
would surge things like that, or it would just fall
on its face and die.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Don't feel too don't feel too bad. We've all done it.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Oh, I do it all the time, you know, I
mean all the time.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Even the professionals do it just because it's it's just
things happen. That's just part of part of fixing cars.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Probably check check the plug in. But this is this
cold Star controller system. The P zero five zero age caused.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
From it very well could be caused because the map
sensor isn't reading at startup right, So if you're not
getting a reading on that, I mean, let's let's take
the one that's first. Yes, let's get our map sensor
working good, and I'm sure the rest of it's going
to just go
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