May 5, 2025 • 42 mins
Interview with Akon on The Bootleg Kev Podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, check it out, man, This is your boy akon.
Y'all know what time it is now check me out
on the Bootleg CAV podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Peace.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
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(00:50):
That's right, let's get into the interview. Bootleg CAV Show
special guests in here, akon the legend, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
What's up, daddyo?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
What's up man?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh man? Amazing as usual.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I feel like you obviously got a new record that's
going crazy at radio. This is your second one in
like a year. It's feeling a little two thousand and
eight us in here. What it's been like for you
to be like fully activated and like just fully you
told me you're out here working on finishing up your
new album. Does it feel good to be fully like
back just I mean wearing because you obviously have had
(01:28):
so many business ventures. You've been behind the scenes with
so many people's careers, but it feels like you're in
your bag right now.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
No, man, Honestly, this is probably the best I felt
in a long time. It feels real good to be
honest like especially knowing, Okay, now I can allocate all
my time back into music because before I had one
foot in, one foot out, having a bunch of business.
But then I would make time for the music, you
know what I'm saying. But now I was like, Okay,
I'm not worried too much about the business stuff. All
that's turnkey on cruise control. Now just focus on music
(01:55):
full time.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, how's the album sounding?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh my goodness, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Is there any any features?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
The first album, it won't be no features because I
need to give the audience back the experience that I
that I kind of deprived of them. But then the
second album is called Iconic, which means every song from
top to bottom would have like iconic features on them.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh fire, Yeah, I feel like telling some of your
biggest I mean, most of your biggest songs you by yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, they are.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Most I mean but that's the funny thing is most
people would need you to be on there right, to
be back in the day. It was like, because like
I need a hit, I'm gonna call Akon, I'm gonna
call t Pain, I mean right. It was really kind
of Yeah. Were you able to see Pain's Coachella performance
that it's been going viral?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
A lot of people have been talking.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
About and listen, I've been waiting for the world to
see Pain at its highest peak. This ship made me proud,
to be honest, I just know how he is. Like,
I know, Pain has always been the most amazing performer,
but he never had the real big outlets that most
artists have because he never got the flowers that I
felt like he deserved, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, I felt like right around the time, like that
was the timing for that was would have been right
the Death of Autitude and jay Z's song came out,
and then people kind of like turn. I felt like
people like got weird about T pain It just in time, though.
I feel like we've like everyone's kind of appreciated, like
T Painty could do this. Both of y'all could do.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The super Bowl. Yeah, without a question.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
If y'all could be man, y'all do that super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Shit, man, we would like the super Bowl up.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, promise you no, I'd be crazy. Last time I
saw you was in Thailand. Yep, you had to show
out in Thailand, which was that rolling loud. It was
a good time. Thailand is one of the craziest places
I've ever been, very crazy for good and bad. I mean,
I mean mostly good reasons.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I love How long were you out there?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I was there for four days?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, Okay, you don't think about going out there. You
had that time difference to fuck you up because it's
like a whole day ahead.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's a whole day head because I was I was
in Bali for New Year's Eve, and then I stayed
in Baldi long enough to be able to do my
Thailand date. So I just stayed out there and then came, yeah,
showing you something.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Ye, Thailand's amazing, man, it's a good time.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
What is your biggest like outside of the US? What
country would you say is like your biggest streaming market?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Man? Honestly, I haven't even looked at the analytics like that,
but if I had to choose, I would probably say
India and Brazil Africa. I think US is probably the last.
Oh really, because Europe comes after that, So US Latin
America technically yeah, technically Europe out of the big ones,
(04:32):
US is probably the last I saw.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
You said that you were considering or you're gonna re
record your catalog with country the country genre version.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Huh yeah, listen, wait till you hear it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Though you already started working.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I already started, Like it's it's monstrous, like.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So, what songs have you tweaked for country so far?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well? This this thing? Because I got Trivia. I got
Trivia's coming out this week. When is this? Errand because
I I want to give it up.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This will this will probably drop Monday. Today's Wednesday. So
we've got we're gonna get through the weekend this week.
So to drop Monday.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Drop, to give up the trivia is to give up
the trivia. But just know that all of the hit
records all but been redone or actually I'm currently re
recording now in country.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Just like with country producers.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
No, so so what I'm doing, i' went to Nashville
to actually do it, Like I'm going to think of
what country play like, I know what's going on, right,
I'm just I just love country music and if I
represent it from on my classics, I want it done
with the people that this is what they do and
the people that I'm a fan of, from the writers
to the producers to the arrangers, like the environment I
(05:42):
want to in golf, all of that. So we got
the first one actually that I'm actually going to be
announcing through a trivia question on which record will be
the first one that I do and who I plan
to feature it on.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Can I get the trivia questions, see if I can
answer it. Give me the trivia, let me see if I
could past.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, So the first trivia. I'm actually gonna play the
first song that I'm doing in country backwards. Oh, so
you got to guess which one it is. Then the
second trivia is who do you think is who do
you think I'm featuring on that one?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
A country artist? So all of these songs like country.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Artists, and they're actually legitimate Top ten Billboard country artists
on these bad boys.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Have you linked up with Jelly Roll yet?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Damn? He's a trivia question too. I can't. I can't
see so you have linked up with Jelly Roll? Oh
I can, I can. Well, the question is ship, So
man ca, have you messing up my You messing up
my whole trivia?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Have you hung out with Jelly Roll in your life?
I can't ask you spend any time with Jelly Roll?
I can't ask you haven't spent time. You can't tell
with him. Have you been in a recording studio with
Jelly I can't ask.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The Jelly Roll questions because he's a part of my trivia.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So he's so Jelly Roll is a part of your trivia,
which means he's a part of the country. I can't
say wow, shout out to Jelly Roll, man. I can't
say shoreboozy, I can't say man soboo.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Cut it out, man, you gonna give it up my
damn past Man, don't do it. You're gonna give it.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Up a little Morgan Wall maybe Bro please.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Man, you're too many names right now.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
So what you're trying to say is by next year,
you're gonna be on stage coach.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
By next year, I'll be on a uh probably CMA's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well, you gotta do stage coach because one hundred percent
whiz did it?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
T Pain?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Did it?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Promise you? I'm doing stage coach?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, Pain.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think when Pain covered that Chris, he did all
them covers even Actually I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Want to speak for Pain, but I think one of
the purpose of doing all those covers was to go
and kill stage Coach.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And I also feel like it showed people.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
How versatile he was to that he's such a beast
and his voice.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
If you strip away that autoitude, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yep, it don't even matter. He's still killing him.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Nah for sure, for sure, you in Pain, still in
contact for regular that's my dog, my lit bro. I'm
surprised we never got like a joint album from y'all.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
We've actually been talking about it. We me and have
been talking about doing that for a minute.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If there's a t pain Akon joint album sometime in
the next like year or two with a tour, you
guys are selling out that it'd be crazy. You stir
that up and you get the super Bowl buzz.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Going a thousand all that's coming in my Trevius.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Show. I can't wait to hear the jelly Roll song.
Jedyal is a good guy.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I like jelly Roll a lot. Yeah, Like he's a convict.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
He is a convict and actually just saw he's one
step closer because obviously he can't vote in Tennessee where
he's from, but they the courts are one step closer
from fully pardoning him as a felon because he's been
doing so much work to help like you know, people
incarcerated and and all that, and so yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Aw, it's amazing, man, he deserves it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Convict for sure. Convicted Akon and and the convict jelly
Roll On a song together coming soon.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, I think like what uh, what would be? It
would be that I feel like locked up with jelly
Roll would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Statae tick. I can hear Jelly's tone doing this.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Please God, I can't go fuck up my goddam what dude.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I can hear I can hear Jelly saying it in
his tone. It's gonna be good. If that ever happened,
that would be great happen.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'm gonna give you credit for making it happen.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Shouts to Jelly, man, are you going to stage Coach
this weekend?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
No, I won't be on Unfortunately, I'll be in a
studio working on my album for next years.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
What is uh sonically like? Do you feel like you're
just kind of like, are we getting Vintage Acon? Are
we getting World of Acon?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
What is what is this?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah? You get you getting? You getting Vintage Acon with
a twist of Tomorrow's Acon.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Okay I like that?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, Yeah, that's that's dope.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
U man?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
What what what inspired you to want to do the
country ship? Because I think a lot of people, I mean,
you're a singer songwriter, so country I feel like country
is the one genre right now or if you're looking
for like strong songwriting, you're gonna find it like no.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
One interestingly enough, Like a lot of people don't know
that my first album was written based on country music, really,
I swear to God, and I wanted to do a
country remix album at that time, but the label would
never let me do it because they thought it was
it would break away my audience and I want to
be looked at as a sellout. Wow, So it kind
of crushed my dreams and I just realized I couldn't
(10:15):
do it. And then, lady lately, I'm saying to myself, Okay,
now that music has now kind of all came together,
I think now it's probably the best time to do it,
if any to take those classics and actually do it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think like, yeah, back then, if you
would have did that, I tried people to look at
thought I was crazy. People would have looked.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
At you crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean when Nelly did it, people thought he was
fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I thought it was genius. And I actually envy Nelly
because he was able to do it and I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, and he was able to do it to like
he just put out a whole country album like he
he was able to like.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
That pocket before any of us.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Ya shot to Nelly, man, talk to me, uh, what
is your you? Obviously you're a fucking og you've been
dealing with. I mean, I don't know you've had multiple wives?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Is that KIV? Next question please.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeo. Hypothetically, if you had more than one wife, how
do you deal with that without wanting to kill yourself?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I wouldn't kill myself. I would live life happily, So
it's fun. I think I think most guys would like that.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Would you set up a schedule like a Google spreadsheet,
Like it's Tuesday, it's you and you, it's Wednesday, it's Friday,
it's all of us.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Is that how you do it?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't know. Maybe, or or it'd be like a
color system where like you're green, you're purple, you're purple,
you're green, and then we're just gonna hit ram, We're
gonna spin away on whatever color. It's purple day, Come
on in baby.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, your life would be interesting. I
would definitely watch it. Yeah, if you had.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
A really show or if you had a reality show,
it would be great.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
No, no, no, my life is too interesting?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Is it too interesting?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Too interesting?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
What are your thoughts on that? Have you been paying attention?
What's going on with Shannon Sharp?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That was interesting to watch? Yeah, that was interesting to watch.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
No, that's pretty crazy. Like have you seen like.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The texts and some of the voicemails.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well, I heard the call.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So you heard where he said, big black man choking
a little white woman in public.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Wait I didn't hear that.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Just rand new mixtape just dropped this morning, that new
Shannon Sharp tape.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
No, come on, bro, why are you doing shadd like that?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Man?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Bro, I'm gonna player for you because you this ship
is raising also, like, oh here it is, hold on.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
You're coming to La tomorrow. Yes, well, I don't know
why you want to go out.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Wait, it don't make sense by the way, she sounds
so boring.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Okay, okay, what well, I'm not really interested and getting choked,
so I guess we're going.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Okay, I may choke your above me, big black guy choked,
small white bubby.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You're my old things like oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I don't even like that man. Listen Shannon Sharp all
whatever happened to side. I'm just a little disappointed that
this fifty four year old man didn't think that a
nineen year old white girl was trying to set his
ass up. What the fuck are you doing with a
nineteen year old girl.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, listen, guys, at the end of day, there's a
lot of elder that's living their prime years with younger women. Right,
let's just be honest. Men like younger women. Right now,
you go too far, then, yeah, you went too far.
But for the most part, I just feel like Shannon
is getting set up.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
He's I feel like he's getting six. But he walked
right into the trap and was like, I like it here.
He's like, yeah, I'm gonna say some crazy shit on text.
Mean some of the text menage.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I don't think he knew he was being recorded either,
because all all them spaces in between a convers No
conversation ever has that many spaces unless there's a conversation
being on as being muted, and with today's AI, you
can delete the voice and allow the background to keep playing.
That's one thing. Number two. I believe that him and
her always have these kinky type of conversations.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Oh yeah, I mean some of the times that she
said to him about them, because you.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Don't yeah, you don't, you don't. You don't go from
are you gonna be in LA tomorrow? To I don't
like being choked? As your next response, like it does
don't makes sense? Like, wait, what did I got to
do with him coming to LA tomorrow after that long
ass gap?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You know what I mean. I feel like Shannon's got
to be more self aware that like I think he's
gonna I think he's more than self aware now. But
like this all happened after he went on live and
was with Michelle or what was the girl's name? Was
it Michelle? The girl? He was fucking yeah, yeah, yeah,
Shannon's got for being an old head man. He got
to reel it in a little Yeah, he got to
(15:26):
reel it in dog like you're a thirty year old.
You know what I'm saying. Shit, Monique said it best.
He said, you need a fat, oh bitch to rub
your feet and cook you.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Jesus, it's a dangerous time.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Man. Last time we did an interview, people were mad,
I didn't ask you you did the hair transplant only
to cut your Hair's what's the point?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
No, no, no, no, no, no, that wasn't I didn't do
the I didn't do the hair plant plant to cut
my hair. I did the transplant to grow hair. Okay,
the problem was my hair wasn't growing so I said,
fuck it, I'm just gonna keep cut to keep it even.
But I actually like it better than now this way.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, I mean it looks classic income.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, this is better man. It makes I look younger.
I feel better. Yeah, I mean I miss the waves though.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
But yeah, I mean the waves are there. Your hairline
was a training.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Topic that shit kept be relevant the whole fucking What
was that during the pandemic?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Wasn't it something?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I even had fun with it?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
We used to put stuff out there just so I
can I can laugh. And I think it was you
that broke the store. Probably it came from your show.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, uh was is it true back in the day
your brothers would fill in for you at shows?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
No, it was just it was well Bou used to
feel in for me and shows, and then my other
brother Omar. He would just debo like straight take a
show like I'll be in New York and next thing
you know, you see, I'm getting a fly from Baltimore
that I'm performing live. This is a Oh, would just
book the show and keep the money, like, wouldn't even
tell me like about as you. He would go as
(17:03):
me was oh yeah, oh, mom was straight gangster but.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Oh man, and this is like before I guess, like
the internet was like super readily availed. Yeah, this is
this is so people could be like, I guess that
is ain't con No, No, they would not know the difference,
right because there was no YouTuber.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Right. And when you see me and my brother separately,
if you didn't see me in person, you would definitely say, okay,
one thousand percent for a thousand.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So you're older or your other brother was running it up.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
He was almost running it up. Yeahs running up.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And then you you would send Boo sometimes to fill
in if you couldn't be there.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, that was back then. I had two shows at
one point, you know, I send boot to one. I
took the other.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
One, and so would just sing like he would up
his lips.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Wow, he looks like hustling.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Nobody ever called on.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It was a beautiful time, no, I mean, but then
Boo just got too popular. Yeah yeah, you know, he
got big got we laugh about it today. It was
a one point was like, bro, why you tell everybody?
Everybody ask me about the shit? Why you got to
tell everybody said, relax, we had fun with it over,
you know. But he was he was like man, I
didn't want abody know that I was playing you.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yo. Obviously your brother used to manage Kanye. Yeah, he
worked with Kanye very closely. What are your thoughts on
some of the new Kanye tweets that have been floating around.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well, I mean, I mean, it's it's it's yes, yea yeah,
ye has his own specific I think he's in his
He's in his truth. He's in his truth right now. Yeah,
And I think his truth is rubbing a lot of
people a certain kind of way because they can kind
of remind I think his truth speaks to a lot
of people.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Right specifically, I'm talking about like, you know, the stuff
with his cousin, Like a lot of people went through that.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I mean, bro, it takes a lot to come out
and say, or admit for that matter, but just to
repent in a way to where you're not repenting to
the priests or the e mom.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
You're repenting to the world.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You're repinning to the world. Like I think he's in
that space where I think he's kind kind of like
this is a space that no one could really understand
if you're not there, right, So I don't try to
explain what he's doing. I just try to explain it
from a perspective of how I understand it, and I
think he's in a spiritual space, from his understanding that
he needs to do these things and reveal his truth
(19:14):
to the world to reset you know what I'm saying,
If that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I feel like to like, you know, the thing
like him trying to get access to his kids he's got.
It's obviously hurting him, you know, Like I feel like
he's a guy who's going through a lot of a
lot of shit, and he's going through it in front
of our own eyes, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Like, yeah, but I think the parenting part is something
that every man goes through, depending on how difficult the
woman chooses to be that you're with, Right, how.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Many kids you got? I got enough more than ten?
You know, don't speak about my kids.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Stop playing man.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You know this already going on.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
No, No, Nick, Nick got about he got he got
a few more than me. Yeah, Nick's outside, No's he's
doing it right.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, I saw the new thing Trump's talking about doing
is giving five grand Trump's talk about giving five grand
to to women have babies to stop the birth rate
from going down. To Nick Cannon's gonna be out here.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
But I don't think he's talking to minorities. He's talking
to white folks, you think so, Yeah, because the white
folks they're not they're not breeding enough. This is why
they're the white race is slowly diminishing. They're not having any.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Which obviously don't even feel like it's a bad thing.
I feel like we're all just kind of fucking each
other at this point. So who gives a fuck?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, I mean, the white folks don't fuck outside of
the race.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I got two Mexican babies.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
No, but I I'm talking about in the South.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh yeah, in the South. I don't know. Man, You'll
see some of these young ladies, Like did you watch
Drew ski show on YouTube? Yeah, he had these two
like country ass white bitches who only fucked black dudes
on the show, and you could tell both of their
parents have said the herd are recently, it's almost like
the internet's gotten rid of like if you're like a
certain generation like of person, you're you're you're even if
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your parents are like hardcore crazy racists, like you know,
your black culture is America like it is like all
of us. Yeah, but no, you're right, You're right, it is.
It is. I think it is a thing, like we
need more white babies out here.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
They need to they definitely need to make more, you know, but.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Five thousand of pop. Like I wonder if I gave
my wife another one, you know, like it be half Mexican.
Do I get twenty five hundred half white, half Mexican?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Do you get half? That is an interesting question though.
I would actually ask as a trivia and see what happened.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, like what about a mixed race baby, you know
what I mean? Half the money at half, you know,
like you get at twenty five, I'll take the tax break.
Crazy times, man, this is crazy. I'm curious you obviously,
being from you're from and you having the reach you
have in Africa, what is your thought process on uh,
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just all of this. You know, I feel like we've
gotten to the point where there was like a problem
with immigration where the border was wide open. So obviously
you know, yeah, short, like the border should be wide open.
Peoplehouldn't be able to just walk into the country. There
should be some sort of process.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, this should be.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Then the pendulum swings the opposite way, in which it's
like people are just like getting rounded up with no
due process. People are getting snatched up off the streets
because they're critical of Israel and then they're getting sent
to prisons. I just told you they're talking about building
a prison similar to Alsabado and Rwanda, which is it's
just a crazy time to be an immigrant in America.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, this is unbelievable, especially when you look at America
and America was built on immigrants.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Like while the Statue of Liberty is there.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I mean, everybody, believe it or not, everybody in America
is an immigrant because America, I.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Mean the Chinese built the railroads, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Like I mean the Indians were here before whoever was
officially American claimed to be American to be here. So
we're all immigrants and when you look.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
At it, it's just a scary time, man.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You know, it's so super scary man.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, I just feel like there's just like the empathy
is just and they doesn't exist. Yeah, it's gone. Man.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
It's really all about the money and control and power,
like it gotten to the point where money was more
important than human life.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's when it gets scary.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
That is when it gets scary.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, in Florida. They're I think they're bringing back child labor,
which is fucking nuts.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Child labor. Yeah you mean what.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, they got rid of the child labor restrictions in Florida.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
What purpose with that?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
What? Like?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
What how does that?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Who's gonna pick the oranges? We're gonna have twelve year
olds out there picking fucking oranges, man, because all they're
deporting all the motherfuckers working in the Orange Viele.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Right, that's true. Yeah, So for all the deportees that
you're sending out, who's gonna replace those jobs? So now
we're going to the point now where we have to
violate kids to get that done. Like, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
It's a wild, wild times man.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
We're living in like a black Yeah, it's a black
mirror episode for sure. Yeah. It's like every time I
turn the TV, I'm like, what the fuck, don't let
me check my crypto?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
My cryptos melted.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I'm looking at my Ethereum'm like, God, this motherfucker was
supposed to be the crypto president.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
What the fuck.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You still have a lot of crypto?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yes, still got a crypto?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What are your what are you a main holder of bitcoin?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Bitcoin?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Bitcoins can always be fine.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, that's it. Just focus on bitcoin, everything else going
up and down.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Bitcoin on state where it's at, and concoins to God
for good God for coins still floating around.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
No, I don't even talk about my queen.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
In October, we got an update on my coin is over.
I saw you in October. What's the update on the
city and that's some process that's still happening.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yes, that's in process.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Is it hard for you to like because you know,
there's a lot of people who like say that, Like
if you watch there's like many YouTube documentaries about your
city and how it's like a big scam? Is it?
Do you care about the naysayers?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I know the truth.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I don't care about that because in the end, when
the city's actually up, they're gonna feel like assholes.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Is it different if it wasn't happening.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
What has been the most difficult part of that project?
Because it is a big thing to take on.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
The biggest I think the most difficult part was fighting
the opposition, realizing how much interest that other governments had
in Africa, specifically in that area, and why they would
want to tear my project down. And that was a
big because I thought I was doing something to help,
but I didn't realize as much as I'm helping the people,
it's about the resources exactly. The oligarts that control with
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certain areas, they feel like I'm going to interrupt what
they're doing over there as far as just robbing people.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So like in that area, what would be like an
oligarchic or a foreign government's interest in that area? Is
it resources?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yes, it's about resources control, Like that area is a
huge area for future developments and where they want to
build the new ports and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I feel like too, like they want to keep these
countries as poor as possible.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
That's exactly what happens, So that's.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
What they want, Like the goal is to keep everybody
in poverty over there, so they get what they want.
They can take advantage of a hundred of the minds.
They could take everything else because if everybody wakes up
or not necessarily wakes up, because I think people are
very like self aware. But if if it flit, an
alternative universe is created, an alternative path, right, then you
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can't take advantage of You.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Can't take advantage you know, because when people are actually thriving,
they're not going to make starving decisions.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah. Like if you think about some of these like
minds in Congo, they're like it's like literally modern day
slave ye, and like all of our phones are fueling
this trade.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
You know, our tesla is are fucking yep. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It's crazy, bro.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's definitely like I think, I think the last few
years what I've at least you know, sometimes the Internet
is a good and a bad thing.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
There's a lot of brain rotten, crazy shit on the
Internet that fucks up our kids and you know, lowers
our society. But the good thing about the Internet is
that there has been we got to see people are
able to see what's going on in Gaza, right a transparency. Yeah,
people are able to see some of these videos from
some of these minds in the Congo where you're like,
wait a minute, there's like a lady with three kids
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on her back while she's working you know, eighteen hour days, Like, yeah,
this is insane.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
It really exposes the mistreatment of human beings for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, it's like a good and it's like there's a
gift of the curse. Yeah, the gift and the curse
for sure, Yo is there is there a new or
artists that you're a fan of that you would like
to work with that you're just you've been paying attention to.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I've kindly, I've worked with man. I don't know if
there's one artist specific though, that I said to myself,
this kid got something crazy and I would definitely be
an honor to work with him. And that's Friday.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Friday's fire.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I love Friday. I think out of all the newest
artists that I've seen so far, he's the one that
I would say, Okay, I can count him in to
be around for a little while.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, he's got in the same way you do. That
kid's special, a very unique tone and voice. Yes, because
a lot at the end of the day with auto tune,
like so many people kind of sound like similar, but
Friday's voice.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, he's different. Yeah, he's different.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Have you reached out at all?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, we spoke, Yeah, we reached out.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
That would be hard, Yeah, Yeah, you got so much
going on in country album, hopefully a Tea Paint album.
You and T Paint got to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Oh no, it's one hundred percent coming. You know, you'll
be the first I now sent on you.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
That's big for the court.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Speaking of super Bow, would you think of super Bow
have time show with Kendrick? I thought it was I
thought it was a.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Piece of art. Man to me, I loved it. I
loved it. I loved the way Kendrick, you know, put
it together. I love the simpleness of it and the
dynamics of those little you know, uh you can say
eight coins that they put.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
In there, ye a little like Yeah, there was like
very you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I love there was a piece of art, especially for
what Kendrick does and how it was wrapped around his truth.
I think it made all the sense in the world,
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, I saw people complaining he didn't do some of
his bigger songs. I'm like, it wasn't about that. It
was it was about presenting a piece of art.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Absolutely. It was not about the songs, because the songs
you can play right after super Bowl, but it's like,
what what is the message? And I think people forget that.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, crazy to think like the stadium like he's doing
stadiums with Sizza and I mean Kendrick for for better
or worse, like the whole entire like obviously the beef
to me was great for hip hop. I mean shit,
Drake's doing fine. No Kiy is on fire, but it's
been dope to see, Like, damn, there's a hip hop
artist doing stadiums right Like, that's crazy. Chris Brown is
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doing stadiums right now. Shots to Chris Breeze, he celebrate
twenty years.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Chris, Chris definitely deserves it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I tell people, Chris Brown is our Michael Jackson, Like,
without a question. I think he's one of the most
talented human beings ever walked the face of there.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I promise you he is.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And when it comes to longevity, when it comes to
talent and just music records, he's our MJ without a question.
And it sucks because it's like one mistake always like well,
like it kind of prevents people like to acknowledge that.
But stop playing with.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Chris Brown, can't You can't man that, boys.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
This guy's one of the greatest of all time. He's
on one of the greatest. Shout to Chris Breezy, man
big shots. Yeah, I gotta get to that that stadium show.
I think it's like him, Bryce and Tiller and Summer Walker. Yeah,
something like that, right, yeah, it should be dope. Uh,
any other investments you got work? I know, the last
time you're here talked about the Godfather's feech. So you're
working on anything else you got cooking?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I mean right now, you know, we've got the
new album coming out, Not Guilty, that I'm really really
excited about.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Not Guilty. That's a great name.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, it's gonna be nice.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, I can't wait to hear that. And then this
jelly roll song.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
That man right there put that together. If you hear
it is because it gave me the idea.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
There it is. It is so Not Guilty. You're wrapping
that up.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, I'm wrapping that up currently now. Never really matter
at the first single that, I mean, second single that
dropped off of it, we just dropped last week, is
doing really really well.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And so it's crazy too because the first single, Beautiful Day,
is like an older.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Song, Yeah, that like leaked. I had leaked and ended
up ended up redoing it just to put it back
out of the marketplace.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And then this newer record is a new record.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
It's a brand new record. Its featured Sime as a
new girl group that I'm about to present and I'm
introducing them to the world on this record. That's the
ones on the choruses.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, they're killing it.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You're still actively with.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Oh yeah, Now now I'm signing artists like it and
know tomorrow. Yeah, we're going super stupid. I'm signing artists producers.
We just picked up press Play, who's one of the
lead producers that we just picked up recently Monster.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
So yeah, I mean you're one of the most prolific
CEOs ever if you think about all the people who
came through your label.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Man, Man, we just I'm just happy to be a
part of, you know, being a contribution to the culture. Man,
that's I'm happy enough for that for sure.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
How many Lady Got albums came out through Convict.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
The first it was the first, It was the first two,
the first the first two was mine, and then I
was in collaboration with the third one, and then I
was out by the time the next ones came out.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Wow. Yeah, those checks still coming in.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, it's still working. Yeah, he's still working.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Still feeding you got like poker Face was like on
the first album.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, that was the first album. The first album was
the biggest album. Yeah, that was the one that gave
her all the accolades.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
It's crazy too, because like the dynamic between like a
song like just dance her first song You're on, and
then drast forward to like some of her other ships,
like yeah, this girl so just an alien man shot her?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, yeah, she's she's one of She's brilliant. Man.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
When was that time you guys have talked to her
ran into her?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
That's about it's about probably been about I would say
part of a year. Yeah, I think it's part of years.
I think it was one of her shows. I went
and saw her backstage, said, hello, a brief it's been
about a year.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Was there any what was it? What was it about
her that you heard or saw that you were like,
we got to figure this out.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
I can help you out.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I don't see how anybody could have seen her and
not see it, Like she was a star off the gate,
and then her talent as a songwriter, as a performer,
and then she had her own style, like nobody looked
like her, and she was so fearless, like willing to
do things that no other artists would do. But most importantly,
she had such a hard working like she's she's like
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she's a I mean her, her work ethic was just unmatchable.
She kept up with me, and that's when I knew
she could work.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yeah, I can only imagine.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Was there ever an artist that was close to signing
a convict that for whatever reason you missed out on
or just didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Oh, it's just a lot of I will be here
all day.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Give me one.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I will be here all day.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Can you give me one?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah? But they too popular now and I don't want
to take that glory away from them. I had a
chance to sign the first What about someone who wasn't popular,
who wasn't popular.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Work out?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Because you've had, like, well, the one, the one, the
one that I did I think was going to be
really really big that I till this day believe it
could have been. I just don't know. What didn't click
was Red Cafe.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I was about to say, you had Red Cafe.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
He was the one that I just knew was gonna
be bigger.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And Red Cafe ended up signing with everybody. Yeah, he
ended up. I think he was with cash money for
a little bit, right he left.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You after what happened was when he was with me.
I ended up doing the joint venture with Diddy with him,
so then it was me and Diddy. Haven't read. And
then after he left that situation, he went on to
do other things.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
But very talented guy.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
No, oh my god, Red, it is so fucking dope. Yeah,
he was so dope. But I think at that time
he was young, he didn't really have the patience that
it took to develop him globally because he wanted and
he all he cared about at that time was New York.
He's wanted New York to love him.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And you know who figured that out quickly was Floder. Yeah,
because floor Rider was like an underground Florida rapperd that
Birthday song. And then as soon as he figured out
that global ship, he hit the switch and turned it,
you know the black pit Bull.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Flow figured it out real quick.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well, he figured that ship he's gonna eat forever.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, Flow figured that out real quick. I was actually
the first one to take him international and open that
open his eyes up to what that was. And interesting enough,
I was the first to take pit Bull international two.
That's why it's my brother till this.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Day, pit Bull man Il Pitt.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
What he's done with his career man unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
The greatest person to ever pull up No one's ever
pulled off the white pants like him. He got that
white pants.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
On Lone Pitt. That's that Cuban saying.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Speaking of guys who could do Super Bowls, Yeah, this
guy's just got two hours straight ahead rack.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
He's another one that could do Super Bowl easy.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah, shout out to pit bull Man.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And then you worked with wiz Kid a little bit
early on.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Ye whiz was my first afrobeat artist and I signed
back in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, damn two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, we actually developed the whole afrobeat saying, that's crazy
sound seen everything.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
It's got to be cool to kind of see it
grow into like this global.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, No, it's amazing, but I mean it was Excuse me,
it was hard work though, trying to get just the
US labels to even understand what it was because at
the time they thought it was reggae, right, So as
I'm shopping him, shopping, David Ough, shopping all these artists
I had Peace Square at the time that I was
also trying to shop on the side, it was like
they didn't understand what it was.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Have you ever connected with David Oh's dad. Uh Yeah,
because his dad is his dad is very very wealthy.
He's in the oil and gas. Yeah, him and I
were talking. His dad has helped with I think he's
providing like fifteen percent of the electricity in Nigeria.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
He's a big dog over.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
There, big dog, big dog. I feel like, if you're
going to create a city, you got to tap in
with David Oh's dad a little.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
In Nigeria. You can't move it out talking to David
Thoh's dad, I mean, I wouldn't. You wouldn't be smart
if you try to go around right. And he's not
as he's a good man, but he believes in the youth.
Like if he sees something that's worth investing in, he
will definitely invest.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I love that. Yeah, it's been dope to just see, like,
like you said, a lot of people you know. So
I think back to the dance hall ship where there
was that wave where Sean Paul broke through and it
became like pop, but it was dance hall. It was
dance hall, right, and it's like now with like Afrobeat.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Took that, but they just burn.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
A boy has broken through on broken level. Whiz Kid
has broken through on that level, and it's like and
then there's been like specific records, rama and you know,
certain things like that, but it's been dope to see
for sure. Absolutely, man, Yeah, it's it's it's not like
a new genre either, like no.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
No, it's been Yeah, it's it's been around for a minute.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
What has been your coolest live performance moment where you
were just like this is crazy. There's amount of like
whether it's the amount of people, whether it was maybe who
was in the crowd, like you're your craziest show.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
My craziest shows. I would definitely say it was in Africa.
It's like I don't even know how to start to
explain it, Like right, it's it's it's a different type
of mania over there. And I feel like a rock
and roll star when I'm on that side because I
can jump off the top speaker into the crowd to
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know they're gonna kiss me, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Like it's that shit, like I could you could crowd surf.
They got you one hundred percent, that's fire. Yea. Was
there ever a record of yours that you gave away
because because it helped me understand like when you're doing
all these hooks whether it's Soul survivor, whether it's I
mean any millions.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Of hooks you did for people?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Were you sending these out or were artists sending you beats?
And then you would like, because I'm I'm assuming you
just had ship too where you were like, oh, so
and so was working on an album, let's send them
over a few to choose from.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
So at that time, in my peer everything that you
heard me or I produced, because I was a producer first,
then song write a second.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
So so did you produce a Survivor? Oh shit, yep,
crazy record produced that one.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
That's one of the records that I Afterwards, I was like, damn,
I should have kept this one. But then I realized, nah,
I wouldn't have been the same if it was just me, Well,
anybody else wouldn't have did it the way Jeezi did it.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And that record is what broke Jezi through because because
uh and then what was was like his first single
off that album?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I think, yeah, that was that was his first break.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
But but Soul Survivor was like the record that changed everything.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, that changed it changed the direction to where he
was going. Because one thing about Jeezy, he was probably
the first artist that I can ever remember that became
a household name of Atlanta through it just a mixtape. Yes,
Like his mixtape would play from top to bottom, the
whole mixtape in the club. They never would play just
one Jes song. They would play his whole mixtape. Yeah,
like literally like it was. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Was there ever one of your records that you did
keep that almost with someone else's?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Which record that I kept? That was almost? Oh yeah,
I want to love you. Because so when I originally
did it, I did it for Trick Daddy originally, and
I sent it off the Trick Daddy and then somehow
Plies got a hold of it, add his verses on it,
leaked it, and then it was a big old controversy
with the with the label and everything else. Then we
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went back and snatched the record, I added my verses
on it and put Snoop on it, and then we
put it out. Such a big song, such a big song,
but that shit went through a ringer.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
So there was like this damn, I guess this is
probably like this is prior before like the internet was
like super super crazy. So there's a Plies version of
that song that's out there.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Oh yeah, that was the Plais version was the biggest
version in Florida at that time.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Plis man, he killed that ship.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, and it was I just thanks to Plies, we
knew that record was a hit because his version had
already popped off and.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Were like, nigga, I'm talking to put snoop on this exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah. So if for one of Plies, I wouldn't even
know that record was a smash.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's the kind of record too, where you're like the
O G version, You're like, we gotta recut this whole
thing because it's not gonna work at radio. That was
what I want to fuck you. It's just not gonna work.
I want to love you.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
That works perfectly for radio.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
That's crazy man, that's a great record. What was it
like working with Minem.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Ohm was amazing. Him taught me a lot. He made
me kind of I think it was working with him
that helped me separate the industry form my life because
he was the first person through not teaching me it,
but watching him taught me that you gotta have moments
for your life, Like music can't be your life twenty
four hours a day.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, he's very it feels like he seven rates the two.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
No, he did it, And I was like, whoa, because
when I went to go work with him, the nigga
took he took a break for lunch, went to lunch,
came back like it was a job.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Job.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
At five pm, the nigga was gone. I couldn't find him.
I'm looking everywhere for the studio, Like he went home.
I said, what why so early? Oh, he goes. He
goes home every day at five pm. That's that's his
cut off. And mind you, while he goes home, I'm
in the studio all night till he returns the next day.
He's looking at me like, nigga, you're still here?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, And I'm like, yeah, this made a smack that session.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Smack that session crazy damn. And you're one of like
obviously like that's that's uh. Not everybody getting the eminem verse. Man, No,
that was a tough thing to get.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I know that was a special moment when I got it.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's also all time great.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Uh if you go to a white bar, oh yeah,
that record is just the whites love smack that dude,
They love it.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
No, you have no idea, want no you have an idea?
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah? All right, So new album coming out soon. You're
oh about about nine finishing touches going on it, right?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
She touches right now, mixes masters, all that never really
mad at future. The Simians is out currently right now
doing amazing. Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Then a whole other album coming out with a bunch
of features.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Whole of the album after this album, but that'd be
a different, different.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Conversation, and then the country stuff and then the country
album's feature in Jelly row yep.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh my god, this motherfucker got it out of me. Yes,
he got it out. But I ain't gonna tell you
which song. I ain't gonna tell you.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
It's gotta be locked up. It has to be. It's
locked up. It has to be. It literally can only
be locked up.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
You're not hearing it from me, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
My god, Jelly's got a fucking iced out, handcuffed chain
around his fucking neck performs it's locked up anyway. Look, con,
I appreciate you pulling up.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Absolutely, that was somebody interrupting you from giving.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Up all the Yeah, it's Jelly Roll calling.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
That's actually that's actually he's the one that.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
What an idiot I mean, shout out the cart like
hated it. Go okay, yeah, motherfucker, I'm here. Well listen, man,
I appreciate you pulling up always new album coming soon,
hopefully before the end of the summer. Obvious he's probably
dropping summertime.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, I'll give you the exact day.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
So okay, cool a con my guy. I appreciate you,
but I didn't know
Yeah, check it out, man, This is your boy akon.
Y'all know what time it is now check me out
on the Bootleg CAV podcast.
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Peace.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Hey.
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That's right, let's get into the interview. Bootleg CAV Show
special guests in here, akon the legend, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
What's up, daddyo?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
What's up man?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
How you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh man? Amazing as usual.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I feel like you obviously got a new record that's
going crazy at radio. This is your second one in
like a year. It's feeling a little two thousand and
eight us in here. What it's been like for you
to be like fully activated and like just fully you
told me you're out here working on finishing up your
new album. Does it feel good to be fully like
back just I mean wearing because you obviously have had
(01:28):
so many business ventures. You've been behind the scenes with
so many people's careers, but it feels like you're in
your bag right now.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
No, man, Honestly, this is probably the best I felt
in a long time. It feels real good to be
honest like especially knowing, Okay, now I can allocate all
my time back into music because before I had one
foot in, one foot out, having a bunch of business.
But then I would make time for the music, you
know what I'm saying. But now I was like, Okay,
I'm not worried too much about the business stuff. All
that's turnkey on cruise control. Now just focus on music
(01:55):
full time.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, how's the album sounding?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Oh my goodness, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Is there any any features?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
The first album, it won't be no features because I
need to give the audience back the experience that I
that I kind of deprived of them. But then the
second album is called Iconic, which means every song from
top to bottom would have like iconic features on them.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Oh fire, Yeah, I feel like telling some of your
biggest I mean, most of your biggest songs you by yourself.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, they are.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Most I mean but that's the funny thing is most
people would need you to be on there right, to
be back in the day. It was like, because like
I need a hit, I'm gonna call Akon, I'm gonna
call t Pain, I mean right. It was really kind
of Yeah. Were you able to see Pain's Coachella performance
that it's been going viral?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
A lot of people have been talking.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
About and listen, I've been waiting for the world to
see Pain at its highest peak. This ship made me proud,
to be honest, I just know how he is. Like,
I know, Pain has always been the most amazing performer,
but he never had the real big outlets that most
artists have because he never got the flowers that I
felt like he deserved, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, I felt like right around the time, like that
was the timing for that was would have been right
the Death of Autitude and jay Z's song came out,
and then people kind of like turn. I felt like
people like got weird about T pain It just in time, though.
I feel like we've like everyone's kind of appreciated, like
T Painty could do this. Both of y'all could do.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
The super Bowl. Yeah, without a question.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
If y'all could be man, y'all do that super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Shit, man, we would like the super Bowl up.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, promise you no, I'd be crazy. Last time I
saw you was in Thailand. Yep, you had to show
out in Thailand, which was that rolling loud. It was
a good time. Thailand is one of the craziest places
I've ever been, very crazy for good and bad. I mean,
I mean mostly good reasons.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I love How long were you out there?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I was there for four days?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Okay, Okay, you don't think about going out there. You
had that time difference to fuck you up because it's
like a whole day ahead.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's a whole day head because I was I was
in Bali for New Year's Eve, and then I stayed
in Baldi long enough to be able to do my
Thailand date. So I just stayed out there and then came, yeah,
showing you something.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Ye, Thailand's amazing, man, it's a good time.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
What is your biggest like outside of the US? What
country would you say is like your biggest streaming market?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Man? Honestly, I haven't even looked at the analytics like that,
but if I had to choose, I would probably say
India and Brazil Africa. I think US is probably the last.
Oh really, because Europe comes after that, So US Latin
America technically yeah, technically Europe out of the big ones,
(04:32):
US is probably the last I saw.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
You said that you were considering or you're gonna re
record your catalog with country the country genre version.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Huh yeah, listen, wait till you hear it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Though you already started working.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I already started, Like it's it's monstrous, like.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So, what songs have you tweaked for country so far?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Well? This this thing? Because I got Trivia. I got
Trivia's coming out this week. When is this? Errand because
I I want to give it up.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This will this will probably drop Monday. Today's Wednesday. So
we've got we're gonna get through the weekend this week.
So to drop Monday.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Drop, to give up the trivia is to give up
the trivia. But just know that all of the hit
records all but been redone or actually I'm currently re
recording now in country.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Just like with country producers.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
No, so so what I'm doing, i' went to Nashville
to actually do it, Like I'm going to think of
what country play like, I know what's going on, right,
I'm just I just love country music and if I
represent it from on my classics, I want it done
with the people that this is what they do and
the people that I'm a fan of, from the writers
to the producers to the arrangers, like the environment I
(05:42):
want to in golf, all of that. So we got
the first one actually that I'm actually going to be
announcing through a trivia question on which record will be
the first one that I do and who I plan
to feature it on.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Can I get the trivia questions, see if I can
answer it. Give me the trivia, let me see if I
could past.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Okay, So the first trivia. I'm actually gonna play the
first song that I'm doing in country backwards. Oh, so
you got to guess which one it is. Then the
second trivia is who do you think is who do
you think I'm featuring on that one?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
A country artist? So all of these songs like country.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Artists, and they're actually legitimate Top ten Billboard country artists
on these bad boys.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Have you linked up with Jelly Roll yet?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Damn? He's a trivia question too. I can't. I can't
see so you have linked up with Jelly Roll? Oh
I can, I can. Well, the question is ship, So
man ca, have you messing up my You messing up
my whole trivia?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Have you hung out with Jelly Roll in your life?
I can't ask you spend any time with Jelly Roll?
I can't ask you haven't spent time. You can't tell
with him. Have you been in a recording studio with
Jelly I can't ask.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The Jelly Roll questions because he's a part of my trivia.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
So he's so Jelly Roll is a part of your trivia,
which means he's a part of the country. I can't
say wow, shout out to Jelly Roll, man. I can't
say shoreboozy, I can't say man soboo.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Cut it out, man, you gonna give it up my
damn past Man, don't do it. You're gonna give it.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Up a little Morgan Wall maybe Bro please.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Man, you're too many names right now.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
So what you're trying to say is by next year,
you're gonna be on stage coach.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
By next year, I'll be on a uh probably CMA's
for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well, you gotta do stage coach because one hundred percent
whiz did it?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
T Pain?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Did it?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Promise you? I'm doing stage coach?
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, Pain.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think when Pain covered that Chris, he did all
them covers even Actually I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Want to speak for Pain, but I think one of
the purpose of doing all those covers was to go
and kill stage Coach.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And I also feel like it showed people.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
How versatile he was to that he's such a beast
and his voice.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
If you strip away that autoitude, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yep, it don't even matter. He's still killing him.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Nah for sure, for sure, you in Pain, still in
contact for regular that's my dog, my lit bro. I'm
surprised we never got like a joint album from y'all.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
We've actually been talking about it. We me and have
been talking about doing that for a minute.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
If there's a t pain Akon joint album sometime in
the next like year or two with a tour, you
guys are selling out that it'd be crazy. You stir
that up and you get the super Bowl buzz.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Going a thousand all that's coming in my Trevius.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Show. I can't wait to hear the jelly Roll song.
Jedyal is a good guy.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I like jelly Roll a lot. Yeah, Like he's a convict.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
He is a convict and actually just saw he's one
step closer because obviously he can't vote in Tennessee where
he's from, but they the courts are one step closer
from fully pardoning him as a felon because he's been
doing so much work to help like you know, people
incarcerated and and all that, and so yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Aw, it's amazing, man, he deserves it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Convict for sure. Convicted Akon and and the convict jelly
Roll On a song together coming soon.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, I think like what uh, what would be? It
would be that I feel like locked up with jelly
Roll would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Statae tick. I can hear Jelly's tone doing this.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Please God, I can't go fuck up my goddam what dude.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I can hear I can hear Jelly saying it in
his tone. It's gonna be good. If that ever happened,
that would be great happen.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I'm gonna give you credit for making it happen.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Shouts to Jelly, man, are you going to stage Coach
this weekend?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
No, I won't be on Unfortunately, I'll be in a
studio working on my album for next years.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
What is uh sonically like? Do you feel like you're
just kind of like, are we getting Vintage Acon? Are
we getting World of Acon?
Speaker 4 (09:31):
What is what is this?
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah? You get you getting? You getting Vintage Acon with
a twist of Tomorrow's Acon.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Okay I like that?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, Yeah, that's that's dope.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
U man?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
What what what inspired you to want to do the
country ship? Because I think a lot of people, I mean,
you're a singer songwriter, so country I feel like country
is the one genre right now or if you're looking
for like strong songwriting, you're gonna find it like no.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
One interestingly enough, Like a lot of people don't know
that my first album was written based on country music, really,
I swear to God, and I wanted to do a
country remix album at that time, but the label would
never let me do it because they thought it was
it would break away my audience and I want to
be looked at as a sellout. Wow, So it kind
of crushed my dreams and I just realized I couldn't
(10:15):
do it. And then, lady lately, I'm saying to myself, Okay,
now that music has now kind of all came together,
I think now it's probably the best time to do it,
if any to take those classics and actually do it.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think like, yeah, back then, if you
would have did that, I tried people to look at
thought I was crazy. People would have looked.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
At you crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean when Nelly did it, people thought he was
fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I thought it was genius. And I actually envy Nelly
because he was able to do it and I couldn't.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, and he was able to do it to like
he just put out a whole country album like he
he was able to like.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
That pocket before any of us.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Ya shot to Nelly, man, talk to me, uh, what
is your you? Obviously you're a fucking og you've been
dealing with. I mean, I don't know you've had multiple wives?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Is that KIV? Next question please.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Yeo. Hypothetically, if you had more than one wife, how
do you deal with that without wanting to kill yourself?
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I wouldn't kill myself. I would live life happily, So
it's fun. I think I think most guys would like that.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Would you set up a schedule like a Google spreadsheet,
Like it's Tuesday, it's you and you, it's Wednesday, it's Friday,
it's all of us.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Is that how you do it?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I don't know. Maybe, or or it'd be like a
color system where like you're green, you're purple, you're purple,
you're green, and then we're just gonna hit ram, We're
gonna spin away on whatever color. It's purple day, Come
on in baby.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, your life would be interesting. I
would definitely watch it. Yeah, if you had.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
A really show or if you had a reality show,
it would be great.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
No, no, no, my life is too interesting?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Is it too interesting?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Too interesting?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
What are your thoughts on that? Have you been paying attention?
What's going on with Shannon Sharp?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
That was interesting to watch? Yeah, that was interesting to watch.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
No, that's pretty crazy. Like have you seen like.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
The texts and some of the voicemails.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well, I heard the call.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So you heard where he said, big black man choking
a little white woman in public.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Wait I didn't hear that.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Oh yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Just rand new mixtape just dropped this morning, that new
Shannon Sharp tape.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
No, come on, bro, why are you doing shadd like that?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Man?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Bro, I'm gonna player for you because you this ship
is raising also, like, oh here it is, hold on.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
You're coming to La tomorrow. Yes, well, I don't know
why you want to go out.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Wait, it don't make sense by the way, she sounds
so boring.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Okay, okay, what well, I'm not really interested and getting choked,
so I guess we're going.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Okay, I may choke your above me, big black guy choked,
small white bubby.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
You're my old things like oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I don't even like that man. Listen Shannon Sharp all
whatever happened to side. I'm just a little disappointed that
this fifty four year old man didn't think that a
nineen year old white girl was trying to set his
ass up. What the fuck are you doing with a
nineteen year old girl.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, listen, guys, at the end of day, there's a
lot of elder that's living their prime years with younger women. Right,
let's just be honest. Men like younger women. Right now,
you go too far, then, yeah, you went too far.
But for the most part, I just feel like Shannon
is getting set up.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
He's I feel like he's getting six. But he walked
right into the trap and was like, I like it here.
He's like, yeah, I'm gonna say some crazy shit on text.
Mean some of the text menage.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I don't think he knew he was being recorded either,
because all all them spaces in between a convers No
conversation ever has that many spaces unless there's a conversation
being on as being muted, and with today's AI, you
can delete the voice and allow the background to keep playing.
That's one thing. Number two. I believe that him and
her always have these kinky type of conversations.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Oh yeah, I mean some of the times that she
said to him about them, because you.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Don't yeah, you don't, you don't. You don't go from
are you gonna be in LA tomorrow? To I don't
like being choked? As your next response, like it does
don't makes sense? Like, wait, what did I got to
do with him coming to LA tomorrow after that long
ass gap?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You know what I mean. I feel like Shannon's got
to be more self aware that like I think he's
gonna I think he's more than self aware now. But
like this all happened after he went on live and
was with Michelle or what was the girl's name? Was
it Michelle? The girl? He was fucking yeah, yeah, yeah,
Shannon's got for being an old head man. He got
to reel it in a little Yeah, he got to
(15:26):
reel it in dog like you're a thirty year old.
You know what I'm saying. Shit, Monique said it best.
He said, you need a fat, oh bitch to rub
your feet and cook you.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Jesus, it's a dangerous time.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Man. Last time we did an interview, people were mad,
I didn't ask you you did the hair transplant only
to cut your Hair's what's the point?
Speaker 1 (15:47):
No, no, no, no, no, no, that wasn't I didn't do
the I didn't do the hair plant plant to cut
my hair. I did the transplant to grow hair. Okay,
the problem was my hair wasn't growing so I said,
fuck it, I'm just gonna keep cut to keep it even.
But I actually like it better than now this way.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, I mean it looks classic income.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, this is better man. It makes I look younger.
I feel better. Yeah, I mean I miss the waves though.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
But yeah, I mean the waves are there. Your hairline
was a training.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Topic that shit kept be relevant the whole fucking What
was that during the pandemic?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Wasn't it something?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I even had fun with it?
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
We used to put stuff out there just so I
can I can laugh. And I think it was you
that broke the store. Probably it came from your show.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, uh was is it true back in the day
your brothers would fill in for you at shows?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
No, it was just it was well Bou used to
feel in for me and shows, and then my other
brother Omar. He would just debo like straight take a
show like I'll be in New York and next thing
you know, you see, I'm getting a fly from Baltimore
that I'm performing live. This is a Oh, would just
book the show and keep the money, like, wouldn't even
tell me like about as you. He would go as
(17:03):
me was oh yeah, oh, mom was straight gangster but.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Oh man, and this is like before I guess, like
the internet was like super readily availed. Yeah, this is
this is so people could be like, I guess that
is ain't con No, No, they would not know the difference,
right because there was no YouTuber.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Right. And when you see me and my brother separately,
if you didn't see me in person, you would definitely say, okay,
one thousand percent for a thousand.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
So you're older or your other brother was running it up.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
He was almost running it up. Yeahs running up.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
And then you you would send Boo sometimes to fill
in if you couldn't be there.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, that was back then. I had two shows at
one point, you know, I send boot to one. I
took the other.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
One, and so would just sing like he would up
his lips.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Wow, he looks like hustling.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Nobody ever called on.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It was a beautiful time, no, I mean, but then
Boo just got too popular. Yeah yeah, you know, he
got big got we laugh about it today. It was
a one point was like, bro, why you tell everybody?
Everybody ask me about the shit? Why you got to
tell everybody said, relax, we had fun with it over,
you know. But he was he was like man, I
didn't want abody know that I was playing you.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yo. Obviously your brother used to manage Kanye. Yeah, he
worked with Kanye very closely. What are your thoughts on
some of the new Kanye tweets that have been floating around.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well, I mean, I mean, it's it's it's yes, yea yeah,
ye has his own specific I think he's in his
He's in his truth. He's in his truth right now. Yeah,
And I think his truth is rubbing a lot of
people a certain kind of way because they can kind
of remind I think his truth speaks to a lot
of people.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Right specifically, I'm talking about like, you know, the stuff
with his cousin, Like a lot of people went through that.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I mean, bro, it takes a lot to come out
and say, or admit for that matter, but just to
repent in a way to where you're not repenting to
the priests or the e mom.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
You're repenting to the world.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You're repinning to the world. Like I think he's in
that space where I think he's kind kind of like
this is a space that no one could really understand
if you're not there, right, So I don't try to
explain what he's doing. I just try to explain it
from a perspective of how I understand it, and I
think he's in a spiritual space, from his understanding that
he needs to do these things and reveal his truth
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to the world to reset you know what I'm saying,
If that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I feel like to like, you know, the thing
like him trying to get access to his kids he's got.
It's obviously hurting him, you know, Like I feel like
he's a guy who's going through a lot of a
lot of shit, and he's going through it in front
of our own eyes, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Like, yeah, but I think the parenting part is something
that every man goes through, depending on how difficult the
woman chooses to be that you're with, Right, how.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Many kids you got? I got enough more than ten?
You know, don't speak about my kids.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Stop playing man.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
You know this already going on.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
No, No, Nick, Nick got about he got he got
a few more than me. Yeah, Nick's outside, No's he's
doing it right.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, I saw the new thing Trump's talking about doing
is giving five grand Trump's talk about giving five grand
to to women have babies to stop the birth rate
from going down. To Nick Cannon's gonna be out here.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
But I don't think he's talking to minorities. He's talking
to white folks, you think so, Yeah, because the white
folks they're not they're not breeding enough. This is why
they're the white race is slowly diminishing. They're not having any.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Which obviously don't even feel like it's a bad thing.
I feel like we're all just kind of fucking each
other at this point. So who gives a fuck?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Yeah, I mean, the white folks don't fuck outside of
the race.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I got two Mexican babies.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
No, but I I'm talking about in the South.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Oh yeah, in the South. I don't know. Man, You'll
see some of these young ladies, Like did you watch
Drew ski show on YouTube? Yeah, he had these two
like country ass white bitches who only fucked black dudes
on the show, and you could tell both of their
parents have said the herd are recently, it's almost like
the internet's gotten rid of like if you're like a
certain generation like of person, you're you're you're even if
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your parents are like hardcore crazy racists, like you know,
your black culture is America like it is like all
of us. Yeah, but no, you're right, You're right, it is.
It is. I think it is a thing, like we
need more white babies out here.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
They need to they definitely need to make more, you know, but.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Five thousand of pop. Like I wonder if I gave
my wife another one, you know, like it be half Mexican.
Do I get twenty five hundred half white, half Mexican?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Do you get half? That is an interesting question though.
I would actually ask as a trivia and see what happened.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, like what about a mixed race baby, you know
what I mean? Half the money at half, you know,
like you get at twenty five, I'll take the tax break.
Crazy times, man, this is crazy. I'm curious you obviously,
being from you're from and you having the reach you
have in Africa, what is your thought process on uh,
(21:49):
just all of this. You know, I feel like we've
gotten to the point where there was like a problem
with immigration where the border was wide open. So obviously
you know, yeah, short, like the border should be wide open.
Peoplehouldn't be able to just walk into the country. There
should be some sort of process.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, this should be.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Then the pendulum swings the opposite way, in which it's
like people are just like getting rounded up with no
due process. People are getting snatched up off the streets
because they're critical of Israel and then they're getting sent
to prisons. I just told you they're talking about building
a prison similar to Alsabado and Rwanda, which is it's
just a crazy time to be an immigrant in America.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, this is unbelievable, especially when you look at America
and America was built on immigrants.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Like while the Statue of Liberty is there.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I mean, everybody, believe it or not, everybody in America
is an immigrant because America, I.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Mean the Chinese built the railroads, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Like I mean the Indians were here before whoever was
officially American claimed to be American to be here. So
we're all immigrants and when you look.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
At it, it's just a scary time, man.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
You know, it's so super scary man.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, I just feel like there's just like the empathy
is just and they doesn't exist. Yeah, it's gone. Man.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
It's really all about the money and control and power,
like it gotten to the point where money was more
important than human life.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's when it gets scary.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
That is when it gets scary.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, in Florida. They're I think they're bringing back child labor,
which is fucking nuts.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Child labor. Yeah you mean what.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Yeah, they got rid of the child labor restrictions in Florida.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
What purpose with that?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
What? Like?
Speaker 1 (23:18):
What how does that?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Who's gonna pick the oranges? We're gonna have twelve year
olds out there picking fucking oranges, man, because all they're
deporting all the motherfuckers working in the Orange Viele.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Right, that's true. Yeah, So for all the deportees that
you're sending out, who's gonna replace those jobs? So now
we're going to the point now where we have to
violate kids to get that done. Like, that's crazy.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
It's a wild, wild times man.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
We're living in like a black Yeah, it's a black
mirror episode for sure. Yeah. It's like every time I
turn the TV, I'm like, what the fuck, don't let
me check my crypto?
Speaker 4 (23:46):
My cryptos melted.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I'm looking at my Ethereum'm like, God, this motherfucker was
supposed to be the crypto president.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
What the fuck.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You still have a lot of crypto?
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yes, still got a crypto?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What are your what are you a main holder of bitcoin?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Bitcoin?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Bitcoins can always be fine.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, that's it. Just focus on bitcoin, everything else going
up and down.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Bitcoin on state where it's at, and concoins to God
for good God for coins still floating around.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
No, I don't even talk about my queen.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
In October, we got an update on my coin is over.
I saw you in October. What's the update on the
city and that's some process that's still happening.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Yes, that's in process.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Is it hard for you to like because you know,
there's a lot of people who like say that, Like
if you watch there's like many YouTube documentaries about your
city and how it's like a big scam? Is it?
Do you care about the naysayers?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I know the truth.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I don't care about that because in the end, when
the city's actually up, they're gonna feel like assholes.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
Is it different if it wasn't happening.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
What has been the most difficult part of that project?
Because it is a big thing to take on.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
The biggest I think the most difficult part was fighting
the opposition, realizing how much interest that other governments had
in Africa, specifically in that area, and why they would
want to tear my project down. And that was a
big because I thought I was doing something to help,
but I didn't realize as much as I'm helping the people,
it's about the resources exactly. The oligarts that control with
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certain areas, they feel like I'm going to interrupt what
they're doing over there as far as just robbing people.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
So like in that area, what would be like an
oligarchic or a foreign government's interest in that area? Is
it resources?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yes, it's about resources control, Like that area is a
huge area for future developments and where they want to
build the new ports and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I feel like too, like they want to keep these
countries as poor as possible.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
That's exactly what happens, So that's.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
What they want, Like the goal is to keep everybody
in poverty over there, so they get what they want.
They can take advantage of a hundred of the minds.
They could take everything else because if everybody wakes up
or not necessarily wakes up, because I think people are
very like self aware. But if if it flit, an
alternative universe is created, an alternative path, right, then you
(25:53):
can't take advantage of You.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Can't take advantage you know, because when people are actually thriving,
they're not going to make starving decisions.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah. Like if you think about some of these like
minds in Congo, they're like it's like literally modern day
slave ye, and like all of our phones are fueling
this trade.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
You know, our tesla is are fucking yep. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It's crazy, bro.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's definitely like I think, I think the last few
years what I've at least you know, sometimes the Internet
is a good and a bad thing.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
There's a lot of brain rotten, crazy shit on the
Internet that fucks up our kids and you know, lowers
our society. But the good thing about the Internet is
that there has been we got to see people are
able to see what's going on in Gaza, right a transparency. Yeah,
people are able to see some of these videos from
some of these minds in the Congo where you're like,
wait a minute, there's like a lady with three kids
(26:44):
on her back while she's working you know, eighteen hour days, Like, yeah,
this is insane.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
It really exposes the mistreatment of human beings for sure.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, it's like a good and it's like there's a
gift of the curse. Yeah, the gift and the curse
for sure, Yo is there is there a new or
artists that you're a fan of that you would like
to work with that you're just you've been paying attention to.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I've kindly, I've worked with man. I don't know if
there's one artist specific though, that I said to myself,
this kid got something crazy and I would definitely be
an honor to work with him. And that's Friday.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Friday's fire.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I love Friday. I think out of all the newest
artists that I've seen so far, he's the one that
I would say, Okay, I can count him in to
be around for a little while.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, he's got in the same way you do. That
kid's special, a very unique tone and voice. Yes, because
a lot at the end of the day with auto tune,
like so many people kind of sound like similar, but
Friday's voice.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, he's different. Yeah, he's different.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Have you reached out at all?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, we spoke, Yeah, we reached out.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
That would be hard, Yeah, Yeah, you got so much
going on in country album, hopefully a Tea Paint album.
You and T Paint got to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Oh no, it's one hundred percent coming. You know, you'll
be the first I now sent on you.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
That's big for the court.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Speaking of super Bow, would you think of super Bow
have time show with Kendrick? I thought it was I
thought it was a.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Piece of art. Man to me, I loved it. I
loved it. I loved the way Kendrick, you know, put
it together. I love the simpleness of it and the
dynamics of those little you know, uh you can say
eight coins that they put.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
In there, ye a little like Yeah, there was like
very you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I love there was a piece of art, especially for
what Kendrick does and how it was wrapped around his truth.
I think it made all the sense in the world,
to be honest.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, I saw people complaining he didn't do some of
his bigger songs. I'm like, it wasn't about that. It
was it was about presenting a piece of art.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Absolutely. It was not about the songs, because the songs
you can play right after super Bowl, but it's like,
what what is the message? And I think people forget that.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, crazy to think like the stadium like he's doing
stadiums with Sizza and I mean Kendrick for for better
or worse, like the whole entire like obviously the beef
to me was great for hip hop. I mean shit,
Drake's doing fine. No Kiy is on fire, but it's
been dope to see, Like, damn, there's a hip hop
artist doing stadiums right Like, that's crazy. Chris Brown is
(28:59):
doing stadiums right now. Shots to Chris Breeze, he celebrate
twenty years.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Chris, Chris definitely deserves it.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I tell people, Chris Brown is our Michael Jackson, Like,
without a question. I think he's one of the most
talented human beings ever walked the face of there.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I promise you he is.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
And when it comes to longevity, when it comes to
talent and just music records, he's our MJ without a question.
And it sucks because it's like one mistake always like well,
like it kind of prevents people like to acknowledge that.
But stop playing with.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Chris Brown, can't You can't man that, boys.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
This guy's one of the greatest of all time. He's
on one of the greatest. Shout to Chris Breezy, man
big shots. Yeah, I gotta get to that that stadium show.
I think it's like him, Bryce and Tiller and Summer Walker. Yeah,
something like that, right, yeah, it should be dope. Uh,
any other investments you got work? I know, the last
time you're here talked about the Godfather's feech. So you're
working on anything else you got cooking?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah, I mean right now, you know, we've got the
new album coming out, Not Guilty, that I'm really really
excited about.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Not Guilty. That's a great name.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, it's gonna be nice.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, I can't wait to hear that. And then this
jelly roll song.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
That man right there put that together. If you hear
it is because it gave me the idea.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
There it is. It is so Not Guilty. You're wrapping
that up.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, I'm wrapping that up currently now. Never really matter
at the first single that, I mean, second single that
dropped off of it, we just dropped last week, is
doing really really well.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And so it's crazy too because the first single, Beautiful Day,
is like an older.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Song, Yeah, that like leaked. I had leaked and ended
up ended up redoing it just to put it back
out of the marketplace.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And then this newer record is a new record.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
It's a brand new record. Its featured Sime as a
new girl group that I'm about to present and I'm
introducing them to the world on this record. That's the
ones on the choruses.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, they're killing it.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
You're still actively with.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Oh yeah, Now now I'm signing artists like it and
know tomorrow. Yeah, we're going super stupid. I'm signing artists producers.
We just picked up press Play, who's one of the
lead producers that we just picked up recently Monster.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
So yeah, I mean you're one of the most prolific
CEOs ever if you think about all the people who
came through your label.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Man, Man, we just I'm just happy to be a
part of, you know, being a contribution to the culture. Man,
that's I'm happy enough for that for sure.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
How many Lady Got albums came out through Convict.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
The first it was the first, It was the first two,
the first the first two was mine, and then I
was in collaboration with the third one, and then I
was out by the time the next ones came out.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Wow. Yeah, those checks still coming in.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, it's still working. Yeah, he's still working.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Still feeding you got like poker Face was like on
the first album.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, that was the first album. The first album was
the biggest album. Yeah, that was the one that gave
her all the accolades.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
It's crazy too, because like the dynamic between like a
song like just dance her first song You're on, and
then drast forward to like some of her other ships,
like yeah, this girl so just an alien man shot her?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, yeah, she's she's one of She's brilliant. Man.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
When was that time you guys have talked to her
ran into her?
Speaker 1 (31:51):
That's about it's about probably been about I would say
part of a year. Yeah, I think it's part of years.
I think it was one of her shows. I went
and saw her backstage, said, hello, a brief it's been
about a year.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Was there any what was it? What was it about
her that you heard or saw that you were like,
we got to figure this out.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
I can help you out.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I don't see how anybody could have seen her and
not see it, Like she was a star off the gate,
and then her talent as a songwriter, as a performer,
and then she had her own style, like nobody looked
like her, and she was so fearless, like willing to
do things that no other artists would do. But most importantly,
she had such a hard working like she's she's like
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she's a I mean her, her work ethic was just unmatchable.
She kept up with me, and that's when I knew
she could work.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Yeah, I can only imagine.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Was there ever an artist that was close to signing
a convict that for whatever reason you missed out on
or just didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Oh, it's just a lot of I will be here
all day.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Give me one.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I will be here all day.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Can you give me one?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Yeah? But they too popular now and I don't want
to take that glory away from them. I had a
chance to sign the first What about someone who wasn't popular,
who wasn't popular.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Work out?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Because you've had, like, well, the one, the one, the
one that I did I think was going to be
really really big that I till this day believe it
could have been. I just don't know. What didn't click
was Red Cafe.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I was about to say, you had Red Cafe.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
He was the one that I just knew was gonna
be bigger.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
And Red Cafe ended up signing with everybody. Yeah, he
ended up. I think he was with cash money for
a little bit, right he left.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You after what happened was when he was with me.
I ended up doing the joint venture with Diddy with him,
so then it was me and Diddy. Haven't read. And
then after he left that situation, he went on to
do other things.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
But very talented guy.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
No, oh my god, Red, it is so fucking dope. Yeah,
he was so dope. But I think at that time
he was young, he didn't really have the patience that
it took to develop him globally because he wanted and
he all he cared about at that time was New York.
He's wanted New York to love him.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And you know who figured that out quickly was Floder. Yeah,
because floor Rider was like an underground Florida rapperd that
Birthday song. And then as soon as he figured out
that global ship, he hit the switch and turned it,
you know the black pit Bull.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Flow figured it out real quick.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well, he figured that ship he's gonna eat forever.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Yeah, Flow figured that out real quick. I was actually
the first one to take him international and open that
open his eyes up to what that was. And interesting enough,
I was the first to take pit Bull international two.
That's why it's my brother till this.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Day, pit Bull man Il Pitt.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
What he's done with his career man unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
The greatest person to ever pull up No one's ever
pulled off the white pants like him. He got that
white pants.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
On Lone Pitt. That's that Cuban saying.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Speaking of guys who could do Super Bowls, Yeah, this
guy's just got two hours straight ahead rack.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
He's another one that could do Super Bowl easy.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Yeah, shout out to pit bull Man.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
And then you worked with wiz Kid a little bit
early on.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Ye whiz was my first afrobeat artist and I signed
back in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, damn two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yeah, we actually developed the whole afrobeat saying, that's crazy
sound seen everything.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
It's got to be cool to kind of see it
grow into like this global.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Yeah, No, it's amazing, but I mean it was Excuse me,
it was hard work though, trying to get just the
US labels to even understand what it was because at
the time they thought it was reggae, right, So as
I'm shopping him, shopping, David Ough, shopping all these artists
I had Peace Square at the time that I was
also trying to shop on the side, it was like
they didn't understand what it was.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Have you ever connected with David Oh's dad. Uh Yeah,
because his dad is his dad is very very wealthy.
He's in the oil and gas. Yeah, him and I
were talking. His dad has helped with I think he's
providing like fifteen percent of the electricity in Nigeria.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
He's a big dog over.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
There, big dog, big dog. I feel like, if you're
going to create a city, you got to tap in
with David Oh's dad a little.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
In Nigeria. You can't move it out talking to David
Thoh's dad, I mean, I wouldn't. You wouldn't be smart
if you try to go around right. And he's not
as he's a good man, but he believes in the youth.
Like if he sees something that's worth investing in, he
will definitely invest.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
I love that. Yeah, it's been dope to just see, like,
like you said, a lot of people you know. So
I think back to the dance hall ship where there
was that wave where Sean Paul broke through and it
became like pop, but it was dance hall. It was
dance hall, right, and it's like now with like Afrobeat.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Took that, but they just burn.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
A boy has broken through on broken level. Whiz Kid
has broken through on that level, and it's like and
then there's been like specific records, rama and you know,
certain things like that, but it's been dope to see
for sure. Absolutely, man, Yeah, it's it's it's not like
a new genre either, like no.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
No, it's been Yeah, it's it's been around for a minute.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
What has been your coolest live performance moment where you
were just like this is crazy. There's amount of like
whether it's the amount of people, whether it was maybe who
was in the crowd, like you're your craziest show.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
My craziest shows. I would definitely say it was in Africa.
It's like I don't even know how to start to
explain it, Like right, it's it's it's a different type
of mania over there. And I feel like a rock
and roll star when I'm on that side because I
can jump off the top speaker into the crowd to
(37:00):
know they're gonna kiss me, right, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Like it's that shit, like I could you could crowd surf.
They got you one hundred percent, that's fire. Yea. Was
there ever a record of yours that you gave away
because because it helped me understand like when you're doing
all these hooks whether it's Soul survivor, whether it's I
mean any millions.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Of hooks you did for people?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Were you sending these out or were artists sending you beats?
And then you would like, because I'm I'm assuming you
just had ship too where you were like, oh, so
and so was working on an album, let's send them
over a few to choose from.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
So at that time, in my peer everything that you
heard me or I produced, because I was a producer first,
then song write a second.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
So so did you produce a Survivor? Oh shit, yep,
crazy record produced that one.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
That's one of the records that I Afterwards, I was like, damn,
I should have kept this one. But then I realized, nah,
I wouldn't have been the same if it was just me, Well,
anybody else wouldn't have did it the way Jeezi did it.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And that record is what broke Jezi through because because
uh and then what was was like his first single
off that album?
Speaker 1 (37:58):
I think, yeah, that was that was his first break.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
But but Soul Survivor was like the record that changed everything.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, that changed it changed the direction to where he
was going. Because one thing about Jeezy, he was probably
the first artist that I can ever remember that became
a household name of Atlanta through it just a mixtape. Yes,
Like his mixtape would play from top to bottom, the
whole mixtape in the club. They never would play just
one Jes song. They would play his whole mixtape. Yeah,
like literally like it was. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Was there ever one of your records that you did
keep that almost with someone else's?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Which record that I kept? That was almost? Oh yeah,
I want to love you. Because so when I originally
did it, I did it for Trick Daddy originally, and
I sent it off the Trick Daddy and then somehow
Plies got a hold of it, add his verses on it,
leaked it, and then it was a big old controversy
with the with the label and everything else. Then we
(38:54):
went back and snatched the record, I added my verses
on it and put Snoop on it, and then we
put it out. Such a big song, such a big song,
but that shit went through a ringer.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
So there was like this damn, I guess this is
probably like this is prior before like the internet was
like super super crazy. So there's a Plies version of
that song that's out there.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Oh yeah, that was the Plais version was the biggest
version in Florida at that time.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Plis man, he killed that ship.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, and it was I just thanks to Plies, we
knew that record was a hit because his version had
already popped off and.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Were like, nigga, I'm talking to put snoop on this exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah. So if for one of Plies, I wouldn't even
know that record was a smash.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
That's the kind of record too, where you're like the
O G version, You're like, we gotta recut this whole
thing because it's not gonna work at radio. That was
what I want to fuck you. It's just not gonna work.
I want to love you.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
That works perfectly for radio.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
That's crazy man, that's a great record. What was it
like working with Minem.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Ohm was amazing. Him taught me a lot. He made
me kind of I think it was working with him
that helped me separate the industry form my life because
he was the first person through not teaching me it,
but watching him taught me that you gotta have moments
for your life, Like music can't be your life twenty
four hours a day.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, he's very it feels like he seven rates the two.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
No, he did it, And I was like, whoa, because
when I went to go work with him, the nigga
took he took a break for lunch, went to lunch,
came back like it was a job.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
Job.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
At five pm, the nigga was gone. I couldn't find him.
I'm looking everywhere for the studio, Like he went home.
I said, what why so early? Oh, he goes. He
goes home every day at five pm. That's that's his
cut off. And mind you, while he goes home, I'm
in the studio all night till he returns the next day.
He's looking at me like, nigga, you're still here?
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Yeah, And I'm like, yeah, this made a smack that session.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Smack that session crazy damn. And you're one of like
obviously like that's that's uh. Not everybody getting the eminem verse. Man, No,
that was a tough thing to get.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
I know that was a special moment when I got it.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's also all time great.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Uh if you go to a white bar, oh yeah,
that record is just the whites love smack that dude,
They love it.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
No, you have no idea, want no you have an idea?
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah? All right, So new album coming out soon. You're
oh about about nine finishing touches going on it, right?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
She touches right now, mixes masters, all that never really
mad at future. The Simians is out currently right now
doing amazing. Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Then a whole other album coming out with a bunch
of features.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Whole of the album after this album, but that'd be
a different, different.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Conversation, and then the country stuff and then the country
album's feature in Jelly row yep.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Oh my god, this motherfucker got it out of me. Yes,
he got it out. But I ain't gonna tell you
which song. I ain't gonna tell you.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
It's gotta be locked up. It has to be. It's
locked up. It has to be. It literally can only
be locked up.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
You're not hearing it from me, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
My god, Jelly's got a fucking iced out, handcuffed chain
around his fucking neck performs it's locked up anyway. Look, con,
I appreciate you pulling up.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Absolutely, that was somebody interrupting you from giving.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Up all the Yeah, it's Jelly Roll calling.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
That's actually that's actually he's the one that.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
What an idiot I mean, shout out the cart like
hated it. Go okay, yeah, motherfucker, I'm here. Well listen, man,
I appreciate you pulling up always new album coming soon,
hopefully before the end of the summer. Obvious he's probably
dropping summertime.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, I'll give you the exact day.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
So okay, cool a con my guy. I appreciate you,
but I didn't know
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