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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's go through like CAVS special guests here, these.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Guys got an incredible album, one of the best albums
of twenty twenty five. Conductor Williams Rome Streets Trainspotting is out.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the show, fellas, but thank yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Of course, of course, of course, Rome. I gotta say, well,
first of all, both of you guys have been on
such an insane run. I would say the better part
of the last six or seven years. Man, what was
like the initial because I feel like there's so much
synergy between Obviously, you know, Conductor, you are very much

(00:34):
in the Griselda uniform verse. Rome, you are, you know,
obviously in the universe. You know, you've put out music
through Griselda. Was this something that has been in the
works for a long time or was it something that's
like relatively like recent, you guys decided to like lock
in and just bang out a whole project.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
We've been cooking this for a while, like the same
probably like right after I finished Kiss.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
The Ring, like twenty twenty two.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah, cooking songs every week.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
When do you feel like, like, Okay, the album's done,
Like now we got to go find a home for it.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Like this thing is finished.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
What's you think, man? I think we kind of conceptualized
it because we just making songs. That's what that's what's crazy,
song is making songs.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
The album was never done.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, we got a folder.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
There's like there's a literally it's like, damn, we got
forty two songs in here? What do you want to
do with them? Like?

Speaker 5 (01:32):
How?

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Like what the fuck are we doing? Sorry? What you want?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Of course the internet question.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
But now that's what it kind of that's from my perspective.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
No, that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Do you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm curious, like because obviously you've done collap projects Roam,
You've done a whole album with Darrener, You've done obviously
collap projects with Ransom and what what?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
What was kind of I guess, like.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
You know, the chemistry like between you guys, that might
kind of different than some of the cloud projects you've
done in the past.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
I think were Conductor, Like I was just a super
fan of his ship before I even started working with him.
And then how we met It was just like we
met in the studio and then he was just playing
a bunch of beats and I'm sitting there.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Like, damn, what ship?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Is fucking fire and shit and me and and West
is like listening to beats too, But I'm just like, yo,
every single beat he played for like the past hour
and a half is just heat, Like where the fuck
do I even start to beget him?

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Like yo, which one was that?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Like?

Speaker 3 (02:38):
So it was like I was just blown away by
how many fucking five beats he has. And then we
started making ship and then he just kept sending me
shit and I'm like, yo, like every beat is ill,
Like I don't even fucking know, Like I don't know, bro,
Me and conductor just just happens, and.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Then you know you have meet I guess in life,
but even just like in this industry, it's rare that
you meet somebody in like the the connection thing happens right, like,
oh man, we might be from the same tribe or
the same planet or whatever. It's like that is the
bond that I feel I have with him. Immediately was like, man,
you're from where I'm from, like cousins or something. And

(03:21):
it's just easy to send my ideas to Rome, Like
I'll be sending shit to Roam that I don't put
on tapes. I send my craziest ideas to him, do.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
You it's crazy too, because you know, I feel like nowadays,
more than ever as a producer, I feel like OL's
kind of really kind of like lay like a great
blueprint like how you can be a producer and do
these collab albums and drop exclusive vinyl and like really
tap into like fan bases because I feel like, you know,

(03:51):
there's so much like and you probably know this, but
you've been lucky enough to kind of be a part
of a universe that's very support of music. But you know,
there's the producer grind of try to get placements and
like sending beats out or sending loops out and all
this shit, as opposed to like, I feel like there's
a new lane where you could curate your audience, collaborate

(04:12):
with who you want to, and then super serve those people.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Ye know, now there is an al like he's such
a like legend. Me and my boy Less was talking
about him at lunch today. He is. It's like what
he's done is it takes It's gonna take a light
year for anybody to catch up with, just because of
all the classic material he has already. If he stopped
and never made another record, he would have so much

(04:37):
classic music, had so many eras in so many eras,
and if you listen to his records, you can see
and feel him reinventing himself and reinventing himself. So, you know,
thank god he laid it all kind of out for us.
But West Side Gun had a lot to do with
with that too.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
You know, It's funny because me and I were just
talking maybe last week we're hanging out, and he.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Had brought up Gun. He was like, yo, like low key.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Him and Gun were like sharing ideas early on about
like the vinyl distributors that they would use because Gun
was like probably the first rapper on like a real
independent front that was doing those limited runs of records.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yeah, he cracked the code man early. He cracked the
code early. Bro Man, What what's uh?

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I mean? You guys got a show in LA that's tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
You guys doing a limited shows?

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
What should be dope? How how's the responsibility the album?
It feels like people are loving it.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I caught the vinyl yeah, trust me, all that guy's
positive feedback.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
You know, people can't wait to see it live.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
What about besides, you know, shout out to mass appeal
because they are on a pretty insane run of like
there's a big L album on the way, there's a
lot of Deep album all the way, ghost Face album
all the way, Ray Kwan's out. Y'all dropped fucking Slick
Rick drop those Sick project and it was nice and quick.

(06:04):
But what was it about master Pill that made sense
for you guys to to land this project with them?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Did you guys could have did it. I'm sure anywhere.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, they just was talking right, you know what I'm saying.
And I feel like because they've worked with them, there
everybody that I look at as like legendary, I didn't
mind doing something with them. I feel like everybody has
done something with Massa Pill. You could name like Rock Marciono,
freaking Nas, push a T drop the album on master Pill.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
You know what I'm saying, Like so many people.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Have been through those doors and kind of just like
elevated after that.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
It's kind of like like a springboard.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Even if you know, it was just a good place
to be because they have such a good track record
of putting out fire shit good products.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
I mean, I wasn't really opposed to not going over there.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
I saw you were hanging out at the block party
where the clips were before Oh yeah, were able to
chop it.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
Up with Oh no, no.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I was just there because Tremaine is my homeboy, you know,
the guy who owns Dent Tears or whatever.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
Where popped up?

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Were you, uh?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Because you are big? We were talking before the cameras roll.
You're a big hell Hath No Fury guy?

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I met Push your Teeth before though.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
But I'm saying, like, where do you put this album that?
Because everyone's I mean, are you putting it above hell
Hath No Fury?

Speaker 5 (07:21):
You know what it is? It's like I like the
new album.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
It's definitely fired from top to bottom, but Hell Have
No Fury just just.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
That time period that it came out, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
It's like there's like I said, it's like a great
time piece for me, you know what I'm saying, Like
just for me, you know what I'm saying. Like, and
I really liked that album, you know what I'm saying.
So I feel like this one has to grow on
me more because I still listen to that other one
to Hell Have No Fury, Like I'll ride around and
play that ship just randomly, you know what I'm saying. Still,

(07:54):
I feel like this one ain't been out long enough.
I can't just put it above that right away because
I hold that other album so high. It's like I
kind of gotta have the same moments with it. Like
ten years from now, am I gonna be playing that
album is damn near twenty years old.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
It's crazy. It's so crazy that.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
That was twenty about to be twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
So I mean, Lord Willing came out when I was
in high school.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that was like early high school for
me too. I remember that city with the with the
rim and shit was skipping.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Doesn't sound dated though, if you listen to her haf
No Fury, it doesn't sound like some of the other
shit that probably came out.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Except the Dirty Money we talked about.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I was like, Dirty Money is the only record that
did not age.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
The greatest off that album, Conductor, we were talking a
little bit. I don't know like how much you can share,
but you have other stuff in the chamber in terms
of collab projects with artists. Is there anybody else who
you can kind of talk about that you have anything
tucked with.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
That's anything I can talk about. That's safe. Uh, got
a lot of music. I got a lot of music,
you know. So for the fans of my my sound
and stuff, it's a lot coming.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Corday and I have a lot of songs, and Ransom
and I have a lot of songs.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Fire and go to Ransom Man, your guys' album's crazy.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
And I'm talking about things I can control. These are
albums that I can control. It's not placements. It's like
a collap thing. I can tell you all about those.
And those are the two that that I can talk about. Fine,
I'm always sending music to him. Rome.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Is there another producer who you would like you already
like to check off the list that I think would
be I think you and Evidence would be Fire.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, the Homie Man, we got we got stuff.
I got stuff with EV.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
That's a high possibility to get that. You know what
I'm saying. We'd be cooking, Like every time I come
out here, I'll be tapping in with EV. So we
got ship. Who else I want to do some shit?
Pete Rock that would be crazy? Yeah, Uh, of course Alchemists.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
The Pete Rock Smoke is an album that came out
I forget how what year that was, but that ship
is so slept on. There was a couple of them, right,
I just remember that first Smoke Disnit Pete Rock album
was crazy.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
And the Pea.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Shout out to Pete Rock.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Some producer even rock Marci for sure, not even just
on no rapping ship like him as a producer.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Some ship that.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Should be crazy. Yo.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
You know when it came to you working with Drake,
did Katie have anything to do with that?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
No, because I always do.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Katie was like the executive producer of like the Deluxe
But I know he's like super tapped in on the
boom back.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
So I just wondered if but no, Okay, now that
was like a direct. He just reached out to me direct.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, like, yo, let's let's try to get into something.
I'm like, all.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Right, I mean you gave him, like my opinion, like
that's some of the best Drake of the last decade
for sure.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah, there's more. There's there's more coming, There's more. I
don't know if y'all ever go here.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Do you have anything? Do you have anything on ice?

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Man?

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Are there conductor beats on?

Speaker 4 (11:14):
I don't know, man, I don't know anything about music
or anything. Just like watch the Whole Boyd, I don't
know nothing about answer of all, the list doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Why are we talking about even though I just said
there's more away, it's like, yeah, there's more, there's more.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
No. Look, look, I go where I'm loved. I go
where my services are needed and people know that, so,
you know, hopefully so I would love to be a
part of that record.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
But there are other Drake Conductor records that are in
the world that have not you don't know if we'll
ever see them, but they.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah, they're in the world.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
The one was the Fighting Irish Ship that right, you
know what I mean? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Are you a Lebron fan?

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I am so when you hear the Fighting Irish because again,
it was solid. But I just wonder, like it's almost
like if someone you know, it's like, that's Lebron, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, I mean I have no like qualm with either
one of those guys. Like, yeah, I worked with Drake.
It's a professional relationship and he's really cool and really
nice to me and stuff. But yeah, I'm working for
hire at this point. It's not like I came in
the game with Ovo and I've been there this whole time.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
It's like I'm working for hire. He could say, you're
not forty. I never want another beat from you again,
you know, type shit. So but no, I love Lebron
and what he's done in the career. I think honestly,
any grown man would want a career and they're what
they love doing it, like how he did his I
love Lebron. He's my favorite place. He's tough man. I'll
be watching him and be proud, like, yo, you out

(12:49):
there doing forty years old. I wish I could do that.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
You know, did you ever connect with uh? Like Tech
nine and those guys coming up in the casey.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Just recently, like just recently as of twenty twenty four,
Tech reached out. But I mean, I'll be trying to
explain this, bro, and maybe it'll come out on your
cast here. But I'm just in the basement making beats,
you know. And I'd like cook, cook, cooking and share
and the fans have been so receptive to it, but

(13:20):
I don't really reach out. And it's not like disrespect,
but I just didn't. There was a time in my
life where I did in Kansas City go to the
Tech nine shows. I'm standing out front with my seat,
beat CD and stuff, and I was overlooked. So I
think a lot of that is just like, Yo, I
just stopped at one point, I just stopped submitting. I
stopped asking people to be on records. But last year

(13:43):
Tech reached out and was like, Yo, we're gonna get
to something like let's give let's give them a show.
So that's exciting too.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
That would be big, big case man.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Yeah, that's exciting, bro. I'm excited to work with them.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Would would you and Ransom do a sequel to your
Guys project?

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I'm not knocking it at the table. It could, it
could be done.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
I feel like I appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
Yeah, hell yeah, sure, yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2 (14:55):
Do you guys feel like because it feels like we're
in this like kind of dope renaissance of like I guess,
like fans like really giving the fuck about lyrics again,
And you know, I feel like there's this whole new
world that's outside of streaming where artists can be extremely
successful and and make great money and be millionaires without

(15:15):
worrying about having a number one record. And I think
a lot of that had to do with the beef
last year. It kind of made a lot of people
pay attention to lyrics again. But do y'all how do
y'all feel like being quote unquote like you know, boom
Back or real hip hop artists, Like that's like a
label that I feel like is whack as fuck, but
it is one that does exist. Do you feel like
it's a good time for hip hop?

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Hell yeah, it's great honestly because the people that are
doing this at a high level can still be in
the same rooms and get the same ears that the
mainstream people are getting.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
You understand them saying like.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I may not be the most famous rapper, but damn
all the famous rappers that are like.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Know me when I meet there, They're like, fuck with
this shit. You know what I'm saying. Like I've done
songs with Super Dup, you know what I mean. People
who I look.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
At it is like big you know what I'm saying.
So it's like there's really no ciling on this now.
Before there was like a ceiling.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
You understand.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I'm saying like, oh, you can do this and that,
but now you can. You could go far.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Bro, you got a song with Drake several You.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Understand I'm saying like shit, like real big mainstream rappers
follow me on ig all the time. Like, so at
the end of the day, there's no limit to where
this could go.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
It's just about wanting to do it. And at the
end of the day, the Internet makes the Internet makes
it so easy to reach everybody.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
So even if you're not going to mainstream route, there's
still enough people on the Internet that like this shit,
that will buy a CD, that will buy vinyl, they
buy fucking cassette tape. So a lot of people don't
even want to stream, they want to download it and
like pay you for the album, you know what I mean. Like,
there's so many different things that you could do with
music instead of going to traditional route to make money

(17:04):
that you just gotta know, you know what I'm saying.
You got to know like who your target audience is
and feed them because they did, you know what I'm saying.
Like I've been all over the world at this point,
you know what I'm saying. I've been to fucking Japan,
I've been to fucking Georgia. I've been to freaking Poland.
I've been to Italy. You know what i mean, I've

(17:25):
been mad places just off of wrapping.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Who was the craziest person that you met or that
like followed you where you were like, oh shit, like
that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
And at this point, Shitnas.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I got mad man Like it was like it wasn't
just like a random like you know, I mean, it's like, Yo,
Nas wants to meet you. I was like, you know
what I mean, like, oh shit, I met him. He's like,
You're wrong, Like I fuck with your ship. Like every
time I see him, he's like, Yo, that's fun.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
It's hard. I'm like, Yo, that's crazy. This is Nas
right now, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
So that, honestly, that's probably the most craziest what uh
you guys?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Getting metha manon this album is dope. I think Math
is like I want to see Math go on like
a renaissance run where he just is like because I
just watched him perform on this thirty six chambers.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
He goes crazy, he goes he looks like he's thirty,
you know what I'm saying. And every time he steps
outside and does a feature, it's fucking insane.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (18:25):
What what with that feature? Like how did that come about?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
And conductor do you have do you have any other
music with methemn yes mm hm.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
So I've previously done a joint with meth before, you
know what I'm saying. And I met him and then
he's like, you're rom I love what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I've spoken publicly about metha mane. He's probably quote wind
of it and know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
Like, so.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
I had to beat and I'm like, it just reminded
me of some like some Wu Tang s.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
I'm like, I.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Need somebody on Wu Tang to get on this song. Yeah,
I mean it's like, who's the person that I know.
It's like, you know what, send it to me.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
I sent it to him.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Literally, it wasn't even twenty four hours.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
He sent it back and he sent me.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
A video like Rome that versus Crazy, Like I got you,
I'm gonna kill this shit.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
He sent you a video of him like yes he no, he.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Just sent me a video of like after he heard it, like, Yo,
I got this ship is hard?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
You killed it?

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Got you?

Speaker 1 (19:30):
He sent you a video?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yeah. So it's like and even so like the first
album that my mother ever bought me out of the store,
like not a bootleg was met the man first album
I was a kid, She's like, what the fuck is like, Yo,
I need that meta man shit man. So it's like
just to be able to just send him a text
like Yo, I got a joint for you, I bet,

(19:51):
and he's gonna send it right back.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
It's like, Yeah, I feel like you're stepping outside the
futures too. I heard I just heard you on I
think It's out there. If not, ask but you're on
the Joey album.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, hell yeah, that guy.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Crazy body at work. You guys are also on that
static record, which is, Hey, you gotta stop the interview.
You want to give a shout out?

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Man.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
The only thing we smoke ladies and gentlemen is slap woods.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
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know the reason why we smoked flap woods. It's literally
because they slap You can't smoke a slap woods. What
the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Get back to you. How do you get around?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Because I always wonder these days because it feels like,
more than ever, the sampling ship is a little bit
more of an uphill battle. How do you kind of
still be the type of producer you are and get
through the sampling hurdles that releasing music on most I mean,

(20:53):
look Massive peal By all counts as boutique label, it's
like a major label.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, just got to use the humans man. I've been
saying that all this year. Is kind of like my
mantra going into uh producing, just like use more humans,
and uh that's just kind of where my head has been, like,
you let the musicians do their thing, and then I'll
manipulate it and do all of the things that I

(21:18):
do before it goes in the machine and then you know,
keeps going. But with technology, technology is easy, AI is
easy to use. But I just would rather use the
humans man, for real.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
So so are you even like listening for samples anymore?

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, so you find let's say you find a sample,
let's say it's something crazy, and you're like.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
I don't know if you get this clear? Yeah, where
do the humans come into play?

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Na napes? Look, this is how it go like this,
but we needed to go like this, and we need
it to you know, like.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Give me something similar to this or replay.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
It, or we need something that feels like this. Yeah,
so not even like the chord progression. I need something
that feels like what I just made. So I'm still
digging in the crates. I'm still going to record stores.
I'm still doing that, and I'm sending these beat tapes
to the homies and it's like I need these records
to sound like this and feel like this, and then

(22:12):
they spit out ideas back, and that's like a great
form of collaboration, you know. It's like I send them
what I think and then they send me what's jamming,
and then I make a whole new beat again. So
it's a longer process, but two beats. Yeah, I'm essentially
making two beats until you get to the place where
it's Joey and he's like, Yo, do do whatever. Don't

(22:35):
worry about the same don't worry about Drake.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
I'm sure Drake, same thing. It's like republics go clear.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, I mean what Wiz told me the same thing.
Joey told me the same thing. Of course, Drake, cole
Jed even They're like, yo, just do it and don't
worry about it. So I'm like, okay, that's even better.
You know.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
That's like worry about this ship.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, let's get to it, man, you know. And then
the money obviously for the the younger producers for short.
If you guys are watching this, the money shorter on
the back end, you know, but I don't care about that.
It's like mister Beasts, Like my mindset with this whole
ship is like mister Beast, Like, put all of the
money back into that. Like, put all the money back
into that. Take all that money, put it all back

(23:17):
into that. So it don't make it, don't make wife
you happy. But everything's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
I don't even want to know how much this.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Yeah, it's all this is AI stuff. So your jacket, Yeah,
everything is just and everything.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
What you're saying, is it optical? It's was a wilfare
for for you?

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Rome, is there is there already? You already got like
kind of like the next year planned out. You already
kind of know what's in the chamber for you.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
Yeah, halfway.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
You know what I'm saying, I'm I'm always working, so
it's always music laying around. You know what I'm saying,
There's always things. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Are you still like signed to Griselda or is that
like for an album.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Griselda is just a crew.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
It feels like it's a floating like jay Worthy, well
like put out ten albums and we're still waiting for his.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Gelda is just a collective of of I mean, Assassin
like MC's you know what I'm saying, Just a collective
of motherfuckers that get busy, you know what I mean.
Just because I'm over there doing some shit with Massive
Pill don't mean it's like not no Griselda ship.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
I mean, at any given time, you could.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Probably hear me pop up on a West album somewhere,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
So Griselda's like a It's like Rough Riders, bro.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Everybody on Rough Riders wasn't actually signed to Rough Riders.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yeah, the Locks's just it's just a family.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
That makes sense, that makes it.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I mean obviously I feel like that's I feel like
initially it was just the three guys, and then you
know you'd be like, oh ship jay Worthy from La
still wedding on that album, jay Worthy, who's on the album?

Speaker 5 (25:05):
By the way, look at Boldie.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Every everywhere. Boldie is everywhere. I can't even keep up.
But the ship he just dropped with Nick Craven is dope.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Boldie is working man, all right. So you guys got
a couple of shows. I'm assuming it's it's just gonna
be a limited running shows for you guys with this,
With this album.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
We're gonna do more shows. We're gonna I saw Chicago,
l A.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
We got Chicago, we got LA. But there's definitely gonna
be more. These are just you know, the first two.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
For you, conductor what like, because I feel like when
it comes to the live experience, as like a producer,
I think back to like back in the day, there
was a culturassac five be like DJ Newmark and Cut
chemists would have the n PC and they'd be doing
all kinds of ill ship, like what do you do
for the live show?

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, so that's what I'm about to do. So I'm
just gonna play the beats like that, uh Jeremy Ellis style,
a rap music style, those like guys that kind of
ushered back in the wave of like finger drumming. So
I got that bag, I got that bag. I just
never do it. So I'm gonna get So I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Samples himself and sings with the glasses naked.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah, that's the world that he's crazy and it's good too.
It's good that should be Gemming.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
He'll be in a coffee shop sampling himself and like, brod.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah that ship that should be gemm. But that's that's
what y'all gonna see when you come to the Rome
Streets Conductor Williams show is it's gonna be a live
show with samples flying in and out and roam rapping.
Bro just don't stop rapping whatever happens, just keep going,
all right, Like I know what I'm doing. You just
keep rapping and then, uh, you know, like one of

(26:54):
those I've been watching a lot of Beastie Boys live
shows on YouTube and them ships are just they're everywhere
but super organized. You know, like there's modern beats flying
in and a cappella parts and it's that's the type
of vibe I want. Is that like just that feeling
of that hip hop feeling?

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Speaker 1 (28:01):
Let's get back to the interview. Is Katie working on an.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
Album Kevin Durant? Yes, I don't know what Kevin's I know,
I know it's a pretty good rapper. No, he can rap.
But I know one thing he is doing is prepping
for the season though, And it's really like that, my sons,
It's really like that. Kevin in Houston is gonna be
somebody I know.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
I know.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, I'm sorry to man when that hurted me, but
now you know how I feel as a dub Nation fan,
like you're a Warriors fan. Yeah, but basketball?

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Wait, I don't know how you feel because you have
all these rings.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Do you remember when you told me when we first met,
and you were like, bro, why the fuck are you
a Warriors fan? I was like, Ken City ain't got
no teams, remember, And then you were like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean we got rings. But when we when Kevin
left that, I was like, man, I got a.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Ring without him. Jordan Poole, I don't want to hear.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
I mean, let's go Steph Curry's brother in law, David Lee, got.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
A fucking ring.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
And if we get Yannis, you ain't getting ship. If
we get Yannis, let's.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Go Minga so he could be overrated and overpay.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
I like Kiminga dough, do you? Yeah? I do?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Seriously though, It's.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Like I like him when he's healthy and he's like
locked in.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
And last year when Steph got hurt, he went off
in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yeah he did. It's it's it seems like it's a
confidence thing.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I feel like it seems a relationship with Curris.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Soward seems like it's a confidence thing.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Talking about trading for him, like today.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
I was reading that and I think if he did move,
he would be like the fuel would be there.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I mean, he'll come help us win thirty two games. Yeah,
we're fucked. We got fucking.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
We traded Kevin Duran for Dragon Michelle's baby daddy.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Oh my god, we are fucking cooked.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah. I didn't want Yeah, didn't want my dog, y'all
didn't want my dog.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
We got this fucking owner, Matt Ishbia, this rich fuck
from fucking don't even get me. At least her hot
dogs are two dollars.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Yeah, cheap Nicks man, Yeah, right now, what.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Does that mean? You fucking.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Oh? Man, I fuck with the Knicks. Man from New York.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Man, I don't know, man, you know what it is?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Man? Like with basketball, when I was coming out, I
was a fan of players like it wasn't written necessarily, like, oh,
this team that's anywhere of all time. Yeah, Michael Jordan
right now, my favorite player is John Moran.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
But Jalen Brunson is that guy. Man good.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I like Brunton. I just feel like.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
He's that guy.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
He has the ball a lot.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Sure, I'm saying he does it though he gets it done,
though he.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Doesn't gets to you these two little psychopathic point guards
from the Pacers that pick him up a fucking the
whole court and shut him the fuck down.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Come on that Hart. What's the other dude? The other guy?
I remember? No, no, no, no, it wasn't he was it.
The dude was hitting the threes he had.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Like oh yeah, yeah, okay, okay, I know you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Not mathing.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Ma uh almost he had a game where he had
like all those threes in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, but god.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Damn, but he was locking up though. I remember ninety nine.
I was like, oh, Jalen Brunson can't do nothing, ye
standing in ninety nine.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
But we almost had it this year.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
But it was those girls look great.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
It was great to watch, man.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I just felt really good seeing the Knicks actually get
that far.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
It's been a while.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
If you were the knickt GM, would you trade Jalen
Brunson for Ja Morant right now? No, you would keep Brunton.
Yeah that's fair.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I mean, I respect he's kind of like the King
of New York at this point to the pay cut.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
You know, also, doesn't you know there's fair? They're Varios got.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
More electrifying, Like.

Speaker 4 (32:03):
He gets crazy but you know, like he's so talented.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Man, Jalen Brunson holding down New York, so I can't
even I can't trade him.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
Man.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I think John Moran is like one of the biggest, Like,
if he gets it right, he can stay healthy and
stay out of the bullshit.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Jeesus. He should be the face of the league right now. Yeah,
great Sneakers. What about football? Are you a Giants your
Jets fan? Or we know he's a Chiefs fan. You
just got all the rings Chiefs, Warriors, Giants. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I like the Jets too, But you know, when it
comes to New York teams, I don't really be like
this one or that one.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
I like both of them.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
You like, you like the Yankees and the At any
given time, you could see me at either game.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
You might see me with a Mets hat on. You
might see me with a Yankee hat on. It's just
New York, you know what I'm saying. I love everything
about New York.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm not from there, so I don't know how blasphemous
of a statement that is.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Just about that.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
It's crazy, but especially it's just like with me, it's just.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
Like I like what I like, man, like you know,
I don't go.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Bout the these rules.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
Man.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Are you a Nets fan?

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Yeah? With the Nets too, Like it's New York versus everybody.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
What I'm Do you like the New Jersey Devils because
they're close by?

Speaker 5 (33:25):
Yeah? I do.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Great Jersey, Yeah great Yo.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
That's why I like them because they got the day
of my favorite Jersey jer is crazy. But if I
was to pick, like a team.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Hockey, I probably go with the Islanders.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Are they from Queens?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
They're from Long Island, but they play like in my
old neighborhood to the Islander.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I don't watch any hockey.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
I just.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
What's the guy on the capitals? The capital?

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Is that the kid that Wayne Gretzky.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
This got's to the Russians? They played the funk out
of that hockey. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Look, new album's out Training Spotting go support it and
a lot of more new music on the way, a
lot more.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
Shows on the way.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
I appreciate you, guys, man conductor in Rome, Yes, sir,
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