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one of the greatest rock groups of all time, one
of the most influential I'm talking about like when we
think about this culture, man, they lost souls here. Welcome,
Thank you for having yes, sir man, it's good to
see you guys. I was just giving you guys flowers
because I got to hear the album and I listened
to its two times back to back, and you know,
we're in late November. You guys are snucking album of
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the Year contender.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Man, it is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It is a beautiful body of work for really, thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know, I'm curious, like because this album was so
intentional and the secretcing and you know, the skits and
the way you guys are able to kind of just
get in and out of this project and each song
kind of introduces the next. What was the timeline on
how long you guys were putting this together?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, and initially started to be the Pete and Preme
Pete Rocking premiere record that we were supposed to do
well before the pandemic. So you got a little because
you hear that you have those elements now and obviously
with the loss of Dave, of course it morphed into
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something a little bit more with honor and his legacy
and continuing ours as well, and Yeah, just that right, there.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Was the secreencing part.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And and because you guys are able to pull us
together to be such a cohesive masterpiece of my opinion
is that the fun part for y'all when you guys get.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
The record's not always mattered from day one.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But but now you're able to be like, yo, all right,
we gotta let's get to these skits. Let's get to
the you know, the narration of the project, that kind
of it's it's it's so beautifully done.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Man, No, thank you, bro. I mean it's always been
very important for us.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
I mean, as May said, like we had a few
songs from Pete, a few songs from Preem. Once we
realized once Master Pill asked us to be a part
of the Legends project, and we kind of realized at
some point like it had to go beyond just Pete
and Prem right, and you know, because Dave Voice was
on stuff from other producers like Super Dave West or
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Jake One. Once we added that, then that's where the
sequencing started. Because the Pete and Prem stuff was never
kind of in a thought of a sequence. It was
just we were just trying to turn out songs. But yeah,
once we kind of knew that, and it was under
the flag of doing right by Dave and you know
what the tone was going to be. You know, you
could be like, well, this feels like something towards the end,
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it feels like something that can start it off. And
so it was a lot of fun doing that because
you're looking for the right record. You can get something
that this is dope and you'll be like, you know what,
it doesn't doesn't fit though in the sequence, or it
doesn't even fit on the album.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So that is always a beautiful challenge to being.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Was there a lot of those records that you guys
just just didn't make the cut?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, there was records. There was.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'm always just curious, like yeah, because I'm sure like
there's always there's just so much unreleased music from the Goats.
It's like how much how much stuff like you guys
just a hard drive somewhere.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Additional amount stuff that probably will make something else. You know,
there's conceptionally how the song came together. But yeah, there's
a few things.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You guys.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Have.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know, we're kind of the the face.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Of ownership and the battle of ownership and kind of
this weird moment of the streaming industry taking over, and
you know, it's kind of crazy because by the time
you guys, uh, you know, work out. I want to say,
someone bought the Tommy Boy Tommy Boy. That's twenty twenty three,
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and that's around the time Dave passes.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Do you kind of feel like the music being available
for streaming and you guys being able to tell people
please go stream our music? It kind of felt like,
because I remember, it felt like kind of like a
way to mourn the passing a day, like all this
music is available and how was that for you guys?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
That I had to be an interesting year man to lose,
you know.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I mean, it wasn't something we expected, you know, once
things got worked out, we had plans to do a lot,
you know, and the plants got stumped because we lost
my brother, you know. But yeah, we we were basically
a litmus tests for the ownership.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Of our catalog. Here it is.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
We weren't really the only ones. I think we were
the only ones that come forward.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You guys are very vocal, Yeah yeah, yeah, and rightfully
so you know, I think like even if you look
at like I mean on on like a pop skill
like Taylor Swift with through this Ship, and it was like,
just gonna record.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Did you guys ever think about re recording stuff?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
We thought about it. We threw that in the air.
I really wasn't with it. I think it evens.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I think you was the one who talked about it.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I thought it came up as an idea, but it
would would have changed the esthetic of what we did.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah, because I don't like when you hear reworked, like.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It just it doesn't feel the same.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
You know, your your your memory bank because searching for
the exact way he may have said it, or the
exact way cool Keith Metas said his hym on ego
Tripp and when you have these reworks, they don't feel
the same. So my idea at one point was like, well, yo,
don't even try to rework it. Let's do a live version,
like how James Brown to do a live album and
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then you can catch on me.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You think of that unplugged whole album.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yeah, but I mean, thank god we didn't even have
to do none of that because it wasn't worked out.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
What would be the advice because you guys have obviously
y'all's first album is eighty nine, so You guys have
been through every era of this music industry, from cassettes
all the way to streaming. What would be the advice
you would give like an artist on the come up
in terms of what to look out for in a deal,
what not to do, what not to sign like?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's hard. It's hard. That's hard to say when a
lot has changed. You know.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
What artists have to their benefit. The bargainingship that they
do have is knowing you could do your own thing
on the internet and get some results and walk in
and say, yo, this is what I did on my
own So you can kind of dictate your deal from
the door pretty much, you know, which we didn't have that,
you know, so it's hard to tell them how to
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approach this. It's a case by case situation. It's all
about what's going on in your life and what you
have or don't have will determine what kind of deal
you will accept.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You know what I'm say.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I always was curious one, do you guys have an
MF Doom store you could share in two? I think
Rock Cocaine Flow is one of the hardest songs of
all time.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That record is so fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I remember we had a underground hip hop showing Phoenix
shout out my I Squeaked Boogie and they used to
play that shit every Friday night. On Friday Night, flay
this and I man that beat well first of all,
MF Doom story And when y'all heard that beat for
the first because that beat is so.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Unconvenient one, yeah, bro.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
White van music blew out soul and I mean, like
it wasn't he put it on the CD.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
I still got the CD. He put it on it
by mistake. He didn't realize he put it on this
So when I heard it, like funny enough, the My
Life record that we used for grind date was on there,
and and that one My Life was dope. It was
a bunch of other stuff on there was dope. But
when I heard that and I immediately called him.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I was like, Yo, what is this?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And I saw singing the beat to him and he
was pausing. He was like, Yo, pasta.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That really wasn't even meant to be on it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
He's like you like that, I ain't even think. I
was like, are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I was like, Yo, we want that one and forget it.
I let Dave heard it had to be so like
just the right to that man ride the Yeah, but
that's right up DayLA's alley. Like of course the bee
was already crazy, but just the slowing down and starting
or the fast. He was like, this is it, and
I mean we just killed it. Dave was like, yo, man,
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we should put should put Doom on this, and I
was like, with no question.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And when Doom heard it was the same thing.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
He came came to the studio with the little mischievous.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Face because he knew he had his runs. I was like,
oh boy, what you got.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No, no, I'm ready for this. Let me know what
I got going.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
To booth And he went to boof and just blacked
out and kilt it.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It's crazy too because like when I think of like
that era of y'all's career, it was very like you
guys kind of like came out in an era where
the internet was cracking, so it was almost like grind
Date was like a reintroduction to a whole new fan
base for you guys, because like kids who were sixteen
at that I think I was like fifteen sixteen at
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the time, Like you know, Ship, I was born in
eighty seven, come out Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
No, I mean I was he was born in eighty ship.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I know did Wow. That was amazing hip hop?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You love question Another thing I think you know, you
guys were very instrumental in giving Dyla some of his
early placements that you know were bigger.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Obviously Stakes is highs Well still only did the title track, right.
You know what was cool about that? It was completely
different from anything he did for everyone else. Everything he
did for us was totally daylight.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I would say his version of how did you guys
get introduced to Dylan just through him meeting.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Dave Well, he met Tip first. Like Tip was already
doing whatever he was doing on the Lallapalooza tour. I believe,
oh my god, I'm just drawing a with the amp
amt fiddler. So he was amp was on there with
Funk with George Clinton and there they the one who
let Tip hear JD's beats like Slum Village and all that.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So I remember when.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Not Try was on tour with us, but they would
come with us on the weekends, but they would go
back on a lot of paloozer joint They was going
back and forth.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So when Tip came back out with us.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
He first let Dave hear it, and they was listening
to him the bus and I remember just coming on
and they was like, yo, you gotta hit this ship.
And so we just got a taste of what he
was doing. By the time Tip really pulled him into
the fold, forget it. And I mean, like those beat
tapes that started flowing, not even beat tapes, just his group,
him and slum Village, and we were just like, Yo,
(11:44):
these guys are really dope.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Let alone.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
When we realized, like, okay, so this guy he makes beats.
I thought his name was like bullshittingness because he kept
saying that on one song. And so like yo, when
we heard what he was doing, it just spoke to
all of them us, spoke to us or a pharaolmonch
or so s.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, forget it.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I mean like when those those tapes start flowing, we
were just waiting to get one that was right for us.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
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get back to the interview. Can you guys tell me
about like how how did when did y'all decide as
like a collective that like Native Tongues was like a
thing thing like because I'm sure it was just.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Naturally are anything that never happened.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But like you know, obviously the name who comes up
with that name?
Speaker 5 (14:10):
The name originally though Africa did only because when I
got to Africa's house tit was there walking doing whatever,
and Tip immediately is like your ass, tell post what
we were talking about earlier, And then I'm like what
And then that's what Africa's like, Yo. We're thinking like
whenever we do stuff together, instead of listening listen listing
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everyone's names as groups, let's just be under one name
called Native Tongue I say, wow, that's dope. Why And
he was like, yo, because we all speak kind of
like the same language and that's a native to each other.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I was like, Yo, that's a dope idea. We went
back and.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Told individual cruise. Everyone was with the idea and that
really was it. From there.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
We was there. Did you get like, how many records
did you guys work? Because there was suppose to be
like this mythological native tongues project that never.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Fabulous fleas the kids on't seen the five All that
was supposed to take place and just didn't happen. Man,
I don't know everybody. I mean, we all had individual
deals when we came in, and I believe just behind right.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
So back then, it's a lot more harder to pull
all that shit together.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Right it was.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
It was becoming difficult, and different people had stuff going on.
Latifa had the TV stuff coming, Africa had a movie
at the time, so you know, we was kind of
on board for everything because it was still fresh and
new for us, right, So, but it was just individual,
you know, opportunities that were taking place that people felt
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was a little more important to do.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Do you guys ever kind of just look at the
last like twenty years of hip hop and just kind
of see like there's so much day line, so much
of the I mean, you go all the way back
to when he starts coming up, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I feel like Kanye is a child in native tongue,
and you know, even like a guy like Tyler the
Creator all these years later, he just his own festivals
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this weekend in La.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You know, he's very much. I feel like he definitely
have the native tongue, DNA and him.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But do you guys, do you guys ever you know,
kind of think about y'all's influence on just on this
ship at all.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Like I think about it when I see it, I
recognize it, right, you know. When it comes to the artists,
it's admirable. I love and appreciate it. You know, when
it comes to the industry, it stings a little bit,
you know, because you can see the industry trying to
actually do away with with our style, you know. So yeah,
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you start to you see images, but you don't see us,
you know, and that became not so cool.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah for me, I didn't. I didn't pay attention to it.
I mean, it's when people ask ask us about it. Yeah,
then you you pay attention. But we've always just had fun,
man with this music. We were always students of it.
So even when young cats come along, you pay attention
to what they're doing and you're like, Yo, this is dope,
and you can you can see what could be reminiscent
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of it, but you still look past that and see
their own spin on things appreciate for us.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So that's always been dope.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's always been a great relationship, right, Yo.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
What was the toughest?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Because I was listening to uh, the Different World Record
and I was just thinking I heard your verses on there,
and I was just thinking, like, how hard of a
how hard that might have been for you to record?
Because there are some emotional, you know, lyrics on this album.
Was how were those sessions?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Like, none of it was hard because we just kind
of like even when it's painful, I just just jumped
right into it because I'm I've always been a really
good writer when it comes to talking about being vulnerable,
something that's not easy to talk about, actually like strive
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at that, you know, whether it was I and my be,
whether it's on trying people, you know, talking about my mother, whatever,
it is me messing up in a relationship that I
can do that my eyes closed. So talking about someone
I love like Dave, it came easy.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I poured one of those out. I couldn't even hold it.
Like when Static Selected needed me on something and I
was like, Yo, can I talk about day on this?
Like I So that's easy for me. It's it's not hard.
I mean writing Cabin in the Sky the title track, Yeah,
I was crying when I was writing it, but it
came out.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I never had no point needed to step away from it.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I just I think like when you talk about like
being vulnerable as it's kind of been your strength.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And yeah, even like the.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Record you got with Bala, or you're talking about like
when you die you want to have your kids around you.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, that shit hit, bro.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I was like, damn, or like what your mom might
think about how like shit you're doing as a man,
Like I'm like Jesus, yes, sir, Yeah, can you guys?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You know NAS's involvement in all these projects that have
been coming out. You know, some of my best music
of the year has been a part of the Mass
Appeal UH series, and it's been dope. You guys were
at comic Con. Yeah, comic book was out shout out
to a marble Yeah, but can you just speak how
how it's been just working so closely with Mass Appeal
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and obviously you know NAS's on the album Goes Crazy
by the way.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
But what what's that been like?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It's been cool. I mean, we've you know cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Massive Pill been wanting to rock with us for a minute.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I mean even when we did the Anonymous Nobody album,
they put in.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Their bit for it to come out sixteen.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Yeah, so they wanted that we wound up, you know,
rocking the Cobolt. But they've always wanted be in the
business of doing something with us. However it could happen.
So finally, when the Legends thing came up, we you know,
as May said, we were the premium soul in the
Rocks record originally that was already contractually signed with them,
so we owed them an album and so, you know,
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but they were very gracious about it. They knew everything
he was going through at one point with Tommy Boy
or when Dave was sick let alone Dave passed, So
when it was time for this early during the year,
they was like, look, man, we would love your involvement
in this legend theory, and we was like, yo, we're
with it. So I mean they've always been really kind
to what we could do and wanted to involve us
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in whatever it was. And I mean, getting actually a
little bit closer and being around Nas during this process
has been dope, because Yo, man, it doesn't matter for
me that he's younger than me. Like, it's Nas, you
know what I'm saying. Being around like minded people like
that or Ray and chilling in the studio and seeing
the banter between Ghosts and ray Quand is hilarious, I
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can imagine, you know, and and inspirational. You know, these
guys love what we do, we love what they do.
So it's been dope just being around each other on
just some hangout ship like forget this the music, but
hanging out even after Comic Con, just going to to
eat and we're just laughing brothers, a little drunk and
just talking wild and bugging out like it's so much
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fun as just people to be around each other.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
And the team. The team.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
It's a lot of people on the administrative squad that
would either worked that Tommy Boy or Rush or Loud,
you know, So it's what I call the Soul Survivors,
people who I love that who to test the time
and see.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
You know, if you guys, because NAS's verse he kind
of fantasizes about being a part of different groups.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Like he says in his verse, which I thought was funny,
easy top was bananas.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
If you guys weren't in de Las Soul individually, what
group would y'all be in?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I would be in Gangstar. I love that you and
Guru going back and forth. I would be a Gangstar
without question.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I never thought about that. I don't know think about
it now. Two Life Crew.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Nause No.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
But you know, and this is crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
The only reason I thought it was because like your style,
I always thought it was dope in New York, because
you know, you know how like Miami really took to that. Yeah,
it really open cuts. And that's the only reason why
I said that.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I probably I probably went back in time and been
part of like Flashing, the Furious five of Fire.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Who do you think because you're such a you know,
when when we think of you know, jam Master J
or DJ bat Boo, you're you're one of those guys, right,
you are the you are the backbone of your group, right,
And I want to know as as a DJ, as
a producer, sir, who do you look at as somebody
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who's a part of a group or even just someone
who's a DJ for an artist where you're just like yo, kudos,
like you're very like you're you're really a part of
this ship. Like because there's so many guys who have
had DJs for twenty years that maybe you know, even
a solo artist where the DJs is so fired, like, yeah,
is there anybody who sticks out when I ask you that?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Of course Master Jay, of course a Prince Paul Chatter
Prince Paul for KG from by Nature.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, man, listen.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Those are the ones that really for me to.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Be an MC, blessed to be an MC and think
of a dope DJ who can then come out from
from just being a DJ and a producer is.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Large professor, large profession DJ.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
His ass off and the way he cut records back
and forth is not just cutting him back and forth,
but like he forms like a song out of it.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You'll go from the break, here's a mutant.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, world, he's one of them, you know who was like,
you know, to be what What was the most recent
viral moment that showed how important having a fire DJ
is was the Locks dipset battle Technician. Yeah that boy yo,
that that ship was as much as his Yeah, it
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was showed.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Up for sure. Man.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's so good man.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Were you guys, because you guys always.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Kind of get like attributed with having like psychedelic vibes
to your art, to your aesthetic.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Were you guys doing like any shrooms back in the day?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Man, I'm sure you guys hear that though we heard
yeah a lot, but nah, I.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Would even get off of those things. And like, nah,
beyond rock.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Were you guys smoking a lot back then?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I smoked? We Yeah, for a long time. I never
smoked ever. So what was the inspiration I think about? Like,
I mean, you guys kind of brought color to hip hop.
I feel like colored people. No, no, no, Jesus Jesus Christ,
don't put that on. Don't put that.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I mean just like when I think of like you know,
three feet high and rising and and and just like
that's such a snapshot of music at that time, and
you guys brought that, I mean they turned into a dunk.
Like what was it like you know, can you just
kind of take me back to that creating that album
(25:31):
and just kind of the aesthetic that y'all were on then, like.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
We leaned into.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
You know, we loved any and everything that was out
at that time. If it was Juice Crew, we loved it.
If it was Rock Him, we loved it. Like too Short,
Too Short, we loved it. But we just as individuals
loved what we loved as well. And how we identified
ourselves Withether, how Mace identified himself as a DJ at
(25:58):
that time, me as an MC, and Day and Me
and Day really ed egged each other on, like to
really lean into like being different. And we you know,
we loved I'm talking about loved Ultramagnetic because they had
the most amazing beats, but they just talked a bit
differently and you and You considered them hard like hard rocks,
(26:20):
but they were like talking with these large, larger than
life words and that spoke to me, and that spoke
to Dave or like how Chuck us three was that
really spoke to us how they talk and so that
it was just something that was just something we knew
that that's what we want to do. When we saw
Bizmarck and he could have the hardest beats but have
(26:40):
fun in it. That spoke to us, you know, so
that is kind of a part of allowing us to
be like, yo, let's give that in what we do.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
We loved Koogie Rat, but we just knew we.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Couldn't stand there acting like we're on the block and
we could listen to it, but that just wasn't what
we did, you know.
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get back to the podcast and then you guys dropped
dassole is Dead? What was like? When did y'all come
up with that title? And because you know what I'm saying,
(28:09):
it's it's kind of like the pendulum swings the other way.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Well, it started with a ridiculous tour schedule that we
saw on the calendar.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Rush like the big board.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yeah, and Dave, we raced out everywhere, had us on
the calendar. He wrote they lost all his dead on
all the dates and he held on to the title.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah. We laughed so hard right there.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
We was like, yeah, wow, he held it in his head.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I like easy instead of pause, easy, like no commodores?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
What was uh?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Because I feel like the imagery of the cover with
the flower pot being tipped over.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah. Man, it was just about you know.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
And it was like an evolution in a sense, like
when once we realized like the title itself just sounded
cool for whatever reason to us, then we start putting
meaning beyond it behind it, Like death was an evolution
maybe to the next plane. So he was like, yo,
let's bring the look of the aesthetic of the first
album and what people was putting on us to an end,
(29:22):
because we're just going to move on to something else.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
The whole Daisy age concept was getting misconstrued, right, and
it was putting this image on us that.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Could have heard us maybe even put you in a box.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah, and it could have hurt us over the long run,
you know. So it was best that we killed it
before it killed us.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
And I mean the label was scared of us doing that.
It's like, why would.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You do that? Did you guys go away?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
And why would you say Daylight so is dead? Like
how could you do that? And he was like, because
we can, that's what we want to do. And it
was like, look, these new guys PM don they just
came out on arrest development. They're gonna take what you
did and they're gonna run with it. Well, it was like,
well let him run because we're not doing that again.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You know, you guys are kind of like the inventors
of the skit, if you will.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
When did you guys just say that should be its
own thing?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Like?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
That's because because if you think about, like at the time,
like a skit's not a thing.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Nah, that's a wild thing to give a track to
on a CD. You know, it was just something natural, man.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
It was from the first thing.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, even before that, like even when we would just
be in the house. Skits originated for us because we
were clowning around when we should have been rehearsing. Right,
So if Mace's DJAN and we should be me and
Dave should be trying to say our rhyme, Dave start
clowning around as Mace's DJ, and he'll just start trying
to talk.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
And the record button is on on.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
And he's trying to talk another language, or act like
he's Irish, or do something silly, and then it just
wanted to As May said, we wouldn't erase it, and
we just start compiling all this clowning around on tape.
That's yeah, that was it. Smile and the smiles I'm bugging.
(31:13):
Prince Paul heard it, and then Prince Paul would show
us like, yo, like this is crazy because this is
what me and my friends do. And he put in
like videotapes of him and his friend's overdubbing karate flicks.
So we just realized we had this thing in common
of this this funny style of things to do. So
once we got the deal, we kept that. Like that
(31:36):
skit that's on the first single, where was that the
Dan Stucky thing? That was just something that was already done.
We didn't make it for a single. We didn't make
it for the single. We just thought, for some crazy reason,
let's put this on this twelve inch. Once we tried
it on that twelve inch and we start getting results
(31:56):
of people loving it, then it was like, well, let's
do it again and then forget it for the album.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It was just like, Okay, this is what we do.
We add this and songs to what we do.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Was there ever a something that started out as a
skit that sparked a song like It's.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Hard to say, because I mean, a skit for us
can be a song, like even on a new album,
this new album will be as a skit to me,
but someone will be like it's a song. It was
a skit made to set up the packs record. I
knew that I wanted to have something with fast and
it needed to slow down.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And literally like, Yo, why is it slowing down? Because
the next song will yeah start.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
That's the only reason why I made that, for no
other reason. And then when I found the exact record
that I thought it could be great to do it with,
we did it so skits for us always could. I
mean like hay Love on Daylight Always Dead. That was
a skit, but it was long enough to be a song.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
What's your guys' favorite non album Daylight record? Because you
guys have so many, Like, uh, what was the Trouble
in the Water on the Honda album?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I had some shit.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
That's a beautiful What y'all favorite record that that didn't
end up on a day last soul album?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Oh wow? Feva Chanel Chanel number number of Fever.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
That's the record high school high track.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Nope, that was on the Men in.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Black Night, the first Men in Black, Men and Black.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
It was first Man in Black.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Hey, nice check for that. There's a video for that too, right, nah, just.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
The song is on there.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah yeah, And I think they played back when soundtracks
were great.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Play at the end of the movie, like when he
started to go through some of the soundtrack.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
That's the record.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Can you guys tell me on this project, because this project,
like I said, man, it's up there with the best albums.
I feel like when people hear it comes out tomorrow, no,
Thursday night in l A, Friday.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
The twenty first, whenever that is.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Friday midnight wherever you are on the twenty first.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And I'm sure it changes for you guys, But which
each one of y'alls, like, what's your guys' favorite song?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
It really is how you said it one moment. I
could be on this these four songs for a week
and then all of a sudden, I remember another song
and I just I always just laugh, not laugh, but
smile that. That's such a great place to be with.
You really love your own album. So, I mean, one
(34:23):
I could say is running.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Back without without a question.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
I mean I just loved it when it was just
an instrumental with nothing on it. Different world hits different
for me. I love that a lot. You don't stop.
I just absolutely love it's just a lot.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
It's a lot. It's a lot of different ones on it.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
For me.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Ask a quick sixteen for Mama with kill a Mike. Yeah,
that shit was creazy.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I love that record.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, what about.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You running back quick sixteen for Mama. I always forget
the title of this one.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Just how it is?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Sometimes, just how it is? Sometimes that's my joint.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, if you guys could put together, you're like twenty
twenty five version of Day Last Soul with artists who
are current.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Who would fit the mold? Who would you guys plug in?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
They gotta be like really new, new new.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I mean, look, let's say the last you know, fifteen
twenty years Oh, then that's easy that Tyler Earle jid
someone else, I would say.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
A little bit more.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Harder, absol. J Cole, not in mine, Absol. I like this,
shout out the solo man. That brother is crazy. Yeah,
I think that's a good one for me.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
You know, what about you? I can't really call it.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Anybody who he left out besides j Cole.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Mm hmm you said in the last fifteen mm hmm
hmmm Anderson.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Pack, Oh Anderson be nice.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
That man even knowledge when they do the so man,
I just would be the Prince Paul like he was.
I should be really dope.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
My brain is?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I always wondered obviously Q Tips on the new album,
you guys have such a brotherhood with Tip and recipes
to Fife, and we think.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
About Tribe, we think about Daylight.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
You guys are synonymous with each other, like I can
only imagine, because I'm sure you guys were just in
the studio with each other all the time. What was
it like ever like a friendly rivalry between you guys,
because it was just like it had to be.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Like a you know, steel sharp and steel.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah really, but in a real friendly like for me
and I like I can't even speak for me.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
For me, it was like inspiration.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Like when I would be around Q Tip and he
could just play me something that is so crazy and
have the nerve to then erase it in front of me.
I would be like, Yo, this dude is crazy. If
he know he just can just sit on stuff like
that that he can just erase a beat, I gotta
get my ship together. Like that's what it was for me.
I was just really inspired around him in Africa because
(37:25):
those dudes was like really really dope to me.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
So yeah, I'm always inspired by Tip. Actually stopped coming
to the studio because of that, because you hear one
thing and you fall in love with it and then
it's totally something else or it didn't make the album.
So after the after the second album with Tribe, I
stopped showing up.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I wait, I wait to finish.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, yeah, because you want to hear to finished product.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
I mean, it's just too many to name, Like everything
is fair, like the original to everything is fair.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Like you hear on the record is not. That was
one of the songs broke my heart. I love what's
on the record, but the original in the studio it was.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It's interesting because if you go back to like early
nineties New York hip hop, you know, you guys kind
of laid the the groundwork and then it kind of
feels like, you know, we always have like these I
would say, like kind of like weird divisions in hip hop,
people's styles, people's you know, movements, and I can only imagine.
So you guys are coming up, tribes coming up. Obviously
(38:34):
public enemy is already a thing, and then you get
like Wu Tang Nas Biggie later totally different vibe but
it's kind of crazy that y'all didn't like mesh more
together then, was it? Because y'all were just kind of
on like they obviously Wu Tang was on some street
shit like.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Nah, the industry was just changing, man, things were actually changing,
and everybody was moving according to the change.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Because outside of that, we we all hung around each other, right,
I mean, Rizza loved principle, he loved us.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
He would I mean, yeah, he would always be around us.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
But yeah, like as May said when we started in
eighty nine, yeah, if Wu Tang and Nasingham was out,
then we would all been on tour together.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's just changed. First, Yeah, it just changed that.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
By the time they were prevalent, they the system was
set up like someone who has to be exactly like
Wu Tang will be together with them, you know, like
rough Riders will be I don't know if someone who's
got the same energy as them opposed to them being
with daily.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Yeah, you see rough riders and maybe Rockefellers like that,
right right, right, So they start marrying synonymous groups as
opposed to mixing a bunch of different fruit together, you know,
which where we come from, we was all mixed up
we was mixed.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Dean on a tour of run ding m C like
you know more style oldest stick with Fudini running seas
rough around the edges. But they were on tour together
right but it was like if they were still together
in the era we came in, they would have never
been near each other like Wodini would have been with
like heavy d.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Right right right right right right there. And we toured
with l n W A two short cane select wreck.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
D o C.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
We all loved the one room so crazy, Yeah, what's
the n W?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
What's what like?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Being like on tour and we had the best to
this day, the best live that's.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Possible for they live show and.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
They inspired have the best the best way.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Knowing how to be n W A know how to
turn a dead room into a very live atmosphere like
to be to come in the room and people are
just sitting.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
They know how to go from the top.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
It would be like I would even to this day,
funny enough, I've never asked them like I would just
want to know how or who taught them to be
so on point with their live show because for them
to be so many people they even broke that up
d C first Yellow and dre Q by himself didn't
(41:20):
eat like they they gave you doses of themselves and
then and.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Then the whole.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
It was just crazy. They had such great show that
they had thirty minutes. They could pull all all together
in thirty minutes, and it was insane.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
They had to broad They had to Broadway play aspect
like prostitutes walking with props up in like manhole, like
they came out of the manhole, like they.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Had DJ on two garbage can Yo.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
It was crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
It's crazy, you know, like poles set up and holes
on the corner. Are you kicking it backstage on? Because
I can just imagine, like, because obviously Q.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Did a really good job of like you know, going
to New York and working on was most wanted, but
that was, you know a little bit later on shore.
But I can just imagine how crazy it to have
been if would have got he was working on that
y'all's world together.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
But he was working on that then because we didn't
know that they had issues and all that, right, because
Cbe me and him went to the mall during that
tour in eighty nine and he he kicked me to
run till little boys and girls.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
They all know me. He went through all that.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
I was like, Yo, that's crazy, that's forys something I'm
working on.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
So he already developing at that point.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Did you guys ever flirt with like doing a session together,
Like see if you guys cooked some shit up, would
a love to? I mean I'm a lot harder back then,
by the way. Yeah, because your studio, you could pull
the studio over the hotel on the.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Box exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, it's like real to real days, you know, trying
to find a studio on some random city and like, you.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Know, I'm sure it's not as easy.
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Speaker 1 (43:40):
You guys are on. You know, one of the coolest
songs ever. You know, I think about today's world in
which there's artists who are thinking about the gorillas. Obviously
the gorillas are like kind of the you know, shots
of the gorillas, But Bill Good Inc. Was such a
big song, and like, how did y'all get pitched there?
(44:01):
The idea?
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Just friends who knew them and us and they just
start asking like, yo, would you would you ever want
to work with the gorilla? And he's like, oh, you
mean the dude who worked with Dell.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
I was like.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Yeah, And from there I guess they let them know
and it just kind of started from that point.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Did you guys know it was going to be like
a cartoon group.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
We knew the cartoon group only because they had from
when they did the first album and Dell was on
that guy.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
And hotly did a DJ toy with Danny Ortman, who
produced that song.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
And learning all of that.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I feel like, like low key, like what's kind of
going on right now? Where you got like writers like
kind of doing the AI thing. It's kind of like
in a weird way, like prophetic what the Gorillas did.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Yeah, no, without question, and I mean, you know, Damon
meeting him, it was just just.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
You know, we just became like family after that.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
I mean, he was such a great musician, great creative mind,
willing to work and try and do anything even when
he and he reminds me a lot of cute tip
like even when he has the smash, he's like, all right,
but let me see how it is if I do
a variant cover, let me flip it another way. Your
mates try to add this, do that, blah blah blah.
(45:17):
Like That's how he was, and it was just we
just love that about him. So from that point on, man,
we just became like family.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
During One of my favorite verses that happened during the
pandemic was the Primo Risen one, And I remember that
one like made me think like could they assa on tribe,
do like a friendly fun versus did they ever hit
you guys up?
Speaker 5 (45:41):
It floated around. I mean, you know, it floated around,
and not that we would have had an issue with it.
I just didn't think it would happen. You know, I'm
being honest. I didn't think it would happen because I know, like.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It doesn't feel like the kind of thing Tip would
do it all. Tip don't like to be outside let alone.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
You're just doing that without having the artillery of his
man like fight.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Worse, it makes it a lot different.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
So yeah, I think I was just thinking when it
was like the IG live version and fools were like
at the.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Crib just playing ship.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah, that was my favorite versus era what it was
like super like we're stuck at home, everyone's got rubber gloves.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
When we go to the groceries.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
What a wild time, wild time Man. Obviously, with this
new album Man Cabin in the Sky, it is you know,
like I said, it's just it's such a beautiful tribute
to Dave. You know, when you guys initially start playing
these records for people who are close, Uh what what
(46:46):
is some of the reactions you're getting, you know, because
I can imagine they got to be emotional, they got
I mean so.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Right, okay, the reactions. I mean, I made sure I
got it to the homies we grew up with, you know.
I did a zoom call played the record for all
the homies that definitely stuck really close to Dave, especially
when he would come off the road. So I got
the opportunity to play it for them, and they cried.
A lot of them were like thank you. I'm going
(47:14):
to tell you this too. It was like, I know
the Monarchs is thank you Dave, but there was like
thank you, Mace, thank you pass. It was like it
helped give them closure, you know, because a lot of
them was with him the night before he passed, so
it threw them off knowing like they just had a
(47:35):
ill conversation, laughing and joking and wake up the next
day he was gone. So it was a big void
for a few of the homies and the record gave
them closure. Definitely therapeutic, you know, it hit all the
emotions of joy and pain. Yeah, you know, so you
know it was. It's one for the books for everybody
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to who who really loved Dave?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Was this closure for you guys too? You feel like
at least some help.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Definitely therapeutic. I can't really say closure, but therapeutic knowing
we had more plans and we still, you know, gonna
continue to these plans we had.
Speaker 5 (48:18):
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely not closure for me, but
because but it's not like for it to be so
called open that I have a negative or disagreeable issue
with Dave.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I you know, just losing my mom at an early age.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
My my relationship with death has just been different since
age eighteen.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
So, I mean, Dave's right next to me. That's how
I always looked at it from the Yeah, I mean
that's how you talk about it, this project.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Yeah, so it's it wasn't a closure thing for me.
It's just a mission that I'm on just to make
sure like no one could and I know no one
could ever forget him. So that's even selfish to say
his niggas l So no one's gonna forget him. I'm
just down and still be right there with them. Rocking
and making sure that Daylight keeps it going.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Are you guys gonna tour? Yeah, because a woman this
music is going to be like you know, no, definitely, I.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Mean it's definitely plans to implement the new music and
the show. Well, we always stayed toring. I think people
are finally gonna pay attention that we've been out there, right,
so you know, come on out and check us out.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
I wonder you guys have so many errors of y'all's career,
all the way from the early ship, the AOI Ron.
What's y'all, what do y'all think is the most underrated
era of the day journey or the most underrated project?
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Balloon mind State.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
That is like y'all's like fucking reservoir Dogs, you know.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Saying it was the least successful.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
But we really felt good about it, and over the
course of time, there was a lot of people to come.
They came back on it. Yeah, it seemed like it
was a record that was I guess it.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Is a very grown up, mature.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Record musically, you know, lyrically, and we witnessed a lot
of people come back on it.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
Yeah, they'll be like, yo, that was my least favorite
album at that time, and they was you know, they'll
be like, it's become one of my favorite records.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Was that was.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
The reception to that album. The reason why it took
a few years to get stakes is high.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
No, we were just touring. We just loved the tour.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
What was happening, right, Yeah, having kids of course in
and out of health complications and things like that, and I.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Had I had a health issue. Yeah, so that's why
the album stopped.
Speaker 5 (50:40):
Yeah, we were The next single would have been like,
I am a b who was going to shoot a video,
but I got really sick and I was in the
hospital for like almost like two and a half months.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (50:49):
So that's kind of that really shut down the album.
But yeah, I mean people love this album now, like
they'd be like, yo, man, it's become one of my
favorite albums. And I know how it is when you
can listen to songs and take things for granted then
and and then your whole out take your your outlook
on things are different when you get older.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
What's your guys album of the year outside of your own,
because we've had some ship this.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Year, man, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Man.
Speaker 5 (51:19):
So I have to say I can't I can't even
ask that question.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
Wow, you know, I don't even go into listening to
records with that on my mind like that.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
But what's one of what some of your favorite ship
that drop this year?
Speaker 3 (51:34):
It's been good for me.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I mean, you know, I don't know if it's gonna
be album the year, but the new the new.
Speaker 5 (51:40):
Young j Zy, the New j Z and drama should
I played that ship every day every day.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
I can appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (51:51):
I love I love I love Jid's album, and I
know he's up for a Grammy.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
He's performing tonight in l Word. Yeah, he's got his
tours in town.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
Try to chuck that out. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
I love his new album he's got is up for
wrap Album of the Year.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Indeed, Yeah, are you would you.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Guys say, like, is there is there anybody who you
guys have just kind of taken to from on some
fan ship in the last few years that that is
because to me is somebody who's kind of the newer
you know, he's.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
Yeah, he's super dope man.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
Yeah, you know, he's one and the one I'm watching,
you know, I'm watching it and enjoying them. I look
at these catch I'm not going They don't need no help, right,
you know. Yeah, they're doing an awesome job, you know
what I mean. So I'm just enjoying the show.
Speaker 5 (52:37):
I'll tell you one thing. I don't know what award
he can win, but he needs to win something. I
don't know, a Webbie something. Alchemist. Alchemist is out here.
Fucking yeah, you're talking about mass Bill Alchemists is doing god.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Damn just this year alone. Yeah, let alone in the
last five.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Years, but this year alone. He's arry June two, Change.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Ship, the fucking Freddy Ship, the mockep.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Out, Jesu's one right now. Yeah, the Gibbs album is crazy, afraid.
I think that got I think that album got snubbed
and so and the Chance album is really good. If
you guys listen to the Chances album. The Chance album
is great, great album, great album. Give it a listen, y'all.
The Child, Yeah, well listen, man, y'all's new ship is incredible,
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even in the sky. I think it's in that conversation
for album of the Year. I think you know you
guys delivered, and I hope this. You said that you
have so much unreleased stuff that is for the next thing.
So this is by no means the Last Day Last Soul.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Prod All.
Speaker 4 (53:40):
We actually love to do a record with Reservoir, so
the label that's actually holding the.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Catalog.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, so that makes sense. That's dope.
Speaker 3 (53:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Well listen, brother, hey, when you guys are putting out music,
it's a beautiful it's a beautiful thing. You so go
support the album and I'm sure you guys would be
hitting the city soon. Wherever somebody's watching this, look it
up or day Las Soul much love, brothers, thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
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one of the greatest rock groups of all time, one
of the most influential I'm talking about like when we
think about this culture, man, they lost souls here. Welcome,
Thank you for having yes, sir man, it's good to
see you guys. I was just giving you guys flowers
because I got to hear the album and I listened
to its two times back to back, and you know,
we're in late November. You guys are snucking album of
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the Year contender.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Man, it is.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It is a beautiful body of work for really, thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
You know, I'm curious, like because this album was so
intentional and the secretcing and you know, the skits and
the way you guys are able to kind of just
get in and out of this project and each song
kind of introduces the next. What was the timeline on
how long you guys were putting this together?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Well, and initially started to be the Pete and Preme
Pete Rocking premiere record that we were supposed to do
well before the pandemic. So you got a little because
you hear that you have those elements now and obviously
with the loss of Dave, of course it morphed into
(02:08):
something a little bit more with honor and his legacy
and continuing ours as well, and Yeah, just that right, there.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Was the secreencing part.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And and because you guys are able to pull us
together to be such a cohesive masterpiece of my opinion
is that the fun part for y'all when you guys get.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
The record's not always mattered from day one.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But but now you're able to be like, yo, all right,
we gotta let's get to these skits. Let's get to
the you know, the narration of the project, that kind
of it's it's it's so beautifully done.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Man, No, thank you, bro. I mean it's always been
very important for us.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
I mean, as May said, like we had a few
songs from Pete, a few songs from Preem. Once we
realized once Master Pill asked us to be a part
of the Legends project, and we kind of realized at
some point like it had to go beyond just Pete
and Prem right, and you know, because Dave Voice was
on stuff from other producers like Super Dave West or
(03:08):
Jake One. Once we added that, then that's where the
sequencing started. Because the Pete and Prem stuff was never
kind of in a thought of a sequence. It was
just we were just trying to turn out songs. But yeah,
once we kind of knew that, and it was under
the flag of doing right by Dave and you know
what the tone was going to be. You know, you
could be like, well, this feels like something towards the end,
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it feels like something that can start it off. And
so it was a lot of fun doing that because
you're looking for the right record. You can get something
that this is dope and you'll be like, you know what,
it doesn't doesn't fit though in the sequence, or it
doesn't even fit on the album.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So that is always a beautiful challenge to being.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Was there a lot of those records that you guys
just just didn't make the cut?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah, there was records. There was.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'm always just curious, like yeah, because I'm sure like
there's always there's just so much unreleased music from the Goats.
It's like how much how much stuff like you guys
just a hard drive somewhere.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Additional amount stuff that probably will make something else. You know,
there's conceptionally how the song came together. But yeah, there's
a few things.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
You guys.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Have.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You know, we're kind of the the face.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Of ownership and the battle of ownership and kind of
this weird moment of the streaming industry taking over, and
you know, it's kind of crazy because by the time
you guys, uh, you know, work out. I want to say,
someone bought the Tommy Boy Tommy Boy. That's twenty twenty three,
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and that's around the time Dave passes.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Do you kind of feel like the music being available
for streaming and you guys being able to tell people
please go stream our music? It kind of felt like,
because I remember, it felt like kind of like a
way to mourn the passing a day, like all this
music is available and how was that for you guys?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
That I had to be an interesting year man to lose,
you know.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
I mean, it wasn't something we expected, you know, once
things got worked out, we had plans to do a lot,
you know, and the plants got stumped because we lost
my brother, you know. But yeah, we we were basically
a litmus tests for the ownership.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Of our catalog. Here it is.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
We weren't really the only ones. I think we were
the only ones that come forward.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You guys are very vocal, Yeah yeah, yeah, and rightfully
so you know, I think like even if you look
at like I mean on on like a pop skill
like Taylor Swift with through this Ship, and it was like,
just gonna record.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Did you guys ever think about re recording stuff?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
We thought about it. We threw that in the air.
I really wasn't with it. I think it evens.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I think you was the one who talked about it.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I thought it came up as an idea, but it
would would have changed the esthetic of what we did.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yeah, because I don't like when you hear reworked, like.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It just it doesn't feel the same.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
You know, your your your memory bank because searching for
the exact way he may have said it, or the
exact way cool Keith Metas said his hym on ego
Tripp and when you have these reworks, they don't feel
the same. So my idea at one point was like, well, yo,
don't even try to rework it. Let's do a live version,
like how James Brown to do a live album and
(06:30):
then you can catch on me.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You think of that unplugged whole album.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yeah, but I mean, thank god we didn't even have
to do none of that because it wasn't worked out.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
What would be the advice because you guys have obviously
y'all's first album is eighty nine, so You guys have
been through every era of this music industry, from cassettes
all the way to streaming. What would be the advice
you would give like an artist on the come up
in terms of what to look out for in a deal,
what not to do, what not to sign like?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
It's hard. It's hard. That's hard to say when a
lot has changed. You know.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
What artists have to their benefit. The bargainingship that they
do have is knowing you could do your own thing
on the internet and get some results and walk in
and say, yo, this is what I did on my
own So you can kind of dictate your deal from
the door pretty much, you know, which we didn't have that,
you know, so it's hard to tell them how to
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approach this. It's a case by case situation. It's all
about what's going on in your life and what you
have or don't have will determine what kind of deal
you will accept.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You know what I'm say.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I always was curious one, do you guys have an
MF Doom store you could share in two? I think
Rock Cocaine Flow is one of the hardest songs of
all time.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
That record is so fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I remember we had a underground hip hop showing Phoenix
shout out my I Squeaked Boogie and they used to
play that shit every Friday night. On Friday Night, flay
this and I man that beat well first of all,
MF Doom story And when y'all heard that beat for
the first because that beat is so.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Unconvenient one, yeah, bro.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
White van music blew out soul and I mean, like
it wasn't he put it on the CD.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
I still got the CD. He put it on it
by mistake. He didn't realize he put it on this
So when I heard it, like funny enough, the My
Life record that we used for grind date was on there,
and and that one My Life was dope. It was
a bunch of other stuff on there was dope. But
when I heard that and I immediately called him.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I was like, Yo, what is this?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And I saw singing the beat to him and he
was pausing. He was like, Yo, pasta.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That really wasn't even meant to be on it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
He's like you like that, I ain't even think. I
was like, are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
I was like, Yo, we want that one and forget it.
I let Dave heard it had to be so like
just the right to that man ride the Yeah, but
that's right up DayLA's alley. Like of course the bee
was already crazy, but just the slowing down and starting
or the fast. He was like, this is it, and
I mean we just killed it. Dave was like, yo, man,
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we should put should put Doom on this, and I
was like, with no question.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
And when Doom heard it was the same thing.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
He came came to the studio with the little mischievous.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Face because he knew he had his runs. I was like,
oh boy, what you got.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
No, no, I'm ready for this. Let me know what
I got going.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
To booth And he went to boof and just blacked
out and kilt it.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It's crazy too because like when I think of like
that era of y'all's career, it was very like you
guys kind of like came out in an era where
the internet was cracking, so it was almost like grind
Date was like a reintroduction to a whole new fan
base for you guys, because like kids who were sixteen
at that I think I was like fifteen sixteen at
(09:58):
the time, Like you know, Ship, I was born in
eighty seven, come out Yeah, no.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
No, I mean I was he was born in eighty ship.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I know did Wow. That was amazing hip hop?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You love question Another thing I think you know, you
guys were very instrumental in giving Dyla some of his
early placements that you know were bigger.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Obviously Stakes is highs Well still only did the title track, right.
You know what was cool about that? It was completely
different from anything he did for everyone else. Everything he
did for us was totally daylight.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I would say his version of how did you guys
get introduced to Dylan just through him meeting.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Dave Well, he met Tip first. Like Tip was already
doing whatever he was doing on the Lallapalooza tour. I believe,
oh my god, I'm just drawing a with the amp
amt fiddler. So he was amp was on there with
Funk with George Clinton and there they the one who
let Tip hear JD's beats like Slum Village and all that.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So I remember when.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Not Try was on tour with us, but they would
come with us on the weekends, but they would go
back on a lot of paloozer joint They was going
back and forth.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
So when Tip came back out with us.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
He first let Dave hear it, and they was listening
to him the bus and I remember just coming on
and they was like, yo, you gotta hit this ship.
And so we just got a taste of what he
was doing. By the time Tip really pulled him into
the fold, forget it. And I mean, like those beat
tapes that started flowing, not even beat tapes, just his group,
him and slum Village, and we were just like, Yo,
(11:44):
these guys are really dope.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Let alone.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
When we realized, like, okay, so this guy he makes beats.
I thought his name was like bullshittingness because he kept
saying that on one song. And so like yo, when
we heard what he was doing, it just spoke to
all of them us, spoke to us or a pharaolmonch
or so s.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, forget it.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I mean like when those those tapes start flowing, we
were just waiting to get one that was right for us.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
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about like how how did when did y'all decide as
like a collective that like Native Tongues was like a
thing thing like because I'm sure it was just.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Naturally are anything that never happened.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
But like you know, obviously the name who comes up
with that name?
Speaker 5 (14:10):
The name originally though Africa did only because when I
got to Africa's house tit was there walking doing whatever,
and Tip immediately is like your ass, tell post what
we were talking about earlier, And then I'm like what
And then that's what Africa's like, Yo. We're thinking like
whenever we do stuff together, instead of listening listen listing
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everyone's names as groups, let's just be under one name
called Native Tongue I say, wow, that's dope. Why And
he was like, yo, because we all speak kind of
like the same language and that's a native to each other.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I was like, Yo, that's a dope idea. We went
back and.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Told individual cruise. Everyone was with the idea and that
really was it. From there.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
We was there. Did you get like, how many records
did you guys work? Because there was suppose to be
like this mythological native tongues project that never.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Fabulous fleas the kids on't seen the five All that
was supposed to take place and just didn't happen. Man,
I don't know everybody. I mean, we all had individual
deals when we came in, and I believe just behind right.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
So back then, it's a lot more harder to pull
all that shit together.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Right it was.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
It was becoming difficult, and different people had stuff going on.
Latifa had the TV stuff coming, Africa had a movie
at the time, so you know, we was kind of
on board for everything because it was still fresh and
new for us, right, So, but it was just individual,
you know, opportunities that were taking place that people felt
(15:49):
was a little more important to do.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Do you guys ever kind of just look at the
last like twenty years of hip hop and just kind
of see like there's so much day line, so much
of the I mean, you go all the way back
to when he starts coming up, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I feel like Kanye is a child in native tongue,
and you know, even like a guy like Tyler the
Creator all these years later, he just his own festivals
(16:12):
this weekend in La.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
You know, he's very much. I feel like he definitely
have the native tongue, DNA and him.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
But do you guys, do you guys ever you know,
kind of think about y'all's influence on just on this
ship at all.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Like I think about it when I see it, I
recognize it, right, you know. When it comes to the artists,
it's admirable. I love and appreciate it. You know, when
it comes to the industry, it stings a little bit,
you know, because you can see the industry trying to
actually do away with with our style, you know. So yeah,
(16:53):
you start to you see images, but you don't see us,
you know, and that became not so cool.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Yeah for me, I didn't. I didn't pay attention to it.
I mean, it's when people ask ask us about it. Yeah,
then you you pay attention. But we've always just had fun,
man with this music. We were always students of it.
So even when young cats come along, you pay attention
to what they're doing and you're like, Yo, this is dope,
and you can you can see what could be reminiscent
(17:22):
of it, but you still look past that and see
their own spin on things appreciate for us.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So that's always been dope.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's always been a great relationship, right, Yo.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
What was the toughest?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Because I was listening to uh, the Different World Record
and I was just thinking I heard your verses on there,
and I was just thinking, like, how hard of a
how hard that might have been for you to record?
Because there are some emotional, you know, lyrics on this album.
Was how were those sessions?
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Like, none of it was hard because we just kind
of like even when it's painful, I just just jumped
right into it because I'm I've always been a really
good writer when it comes to talking about being vulnerable,
something that's not easy to talk about, actually like strive
(18:14):
at that, you know, whether it was I and my be,
whether it's on trying people, you know, talking about my mother, whatever,
it is me messing up in a relationship that I
can do that my eyes closed. So talking about someone
I love like Dave, it came easy.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I poured one of those out. I couldn't even hold it.
Like when Static Selected needed me on something and I
was like, Yo, can I talk about day on this?
Like I So that's easy for me. It's it's not hard.
I mean writing Cabin in the Sky the title track, Yeah,
I was crying when I was writing it, but it
came out.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
I never had no point needed to step away from it.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I just I think like when you talk about like
being vulnerable as it's kind of been your strength.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And yeah, even like the.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Record you got with Bala, or you're talking about like
when you die you want to have your kids around you.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah, that shit hit, bro.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I was like, damn, or like what your mom might
think about how like shit you're doing as a man,
Like I'm like Jesus, yes, sir, Yeah, can you guys?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
You know NAS's involvement in all these projects that have
been coming out. You know, some of my best music
of the year has been a part of the Mass
Appeal UH series, and it's been dope. You guys were
at comic Con. Yeah, comic book was out shout out
to a marble Yeah, but can you just speak how
how it's been just working so closely with Mass Appeal
(19:35):
and obviously you know NAS's on the album Goes Crazy
by the way.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
But what what's that been like?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It's been cool. I mean, we've you know cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Massive Pill been wanting to rock with us for a minute.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I mean even when we did the Anonymous Nobody album,
they put in.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Their bit for it to come out sixteen.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Yeah, so they wanted that we wound up, you know,
rocking the Cobolt. But they've always wanted be in the
business of doing something with us. However it could happen.
So finally, when the Legends thing came up, we you know,
as May said, we were the premium soul in the
Rocks record originally that was already contractually signed with them,
so we owed them an album and so, you know,
(20:15):
but they were very gracious about it. They knew everything
he was going through at one point with Tommy Boy
or when Dave was sick let alone Dave passed, So
when it was time for this early during the year,
they was like, look, man, we would love your involvement
in this legend theory, and we was like, yo, we're
with it. So I mean they've always been really kind
to what we could do and wanted to involve us
(20:37):
in whatever it was. And I mean, getting actually a
little bit closer and being around Nas during this process
has been dope, because Yo, man, it doesn't matter for
me that he's younger than me. Like, it's Nas, you
know what I'm saying. Being around like minded people like
that or Ray and chilling in the studio and seeing
the banter between Ghosts and ray Quand is hilarious, I
(20:58):
can imagine, you know, and and inspirational. You know, these
guys love what we do, we love what they do.
So it's been dope just being around each other on
just some hangout ship like forget this the music, but
hanging out even after Comic Con, just going to to
eat and we're just laughing brothers, a little drunk and
just talking wild and bugging out like it's so much
(21:19):
fun as just people to be around each other.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
And the team. The team.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
It's a lot of people on the administrative squad that
would either worked that Tommy Boy or Rush or Loud,
you know, So it's what I call the Soul Survivors,
people who I love that who to test the time
and see.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
You know, if you guys, because NAS's verse he kind
of fantasizes about being a part of different groups.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Like he says in his verse, which I thought was funny,
easy top was bananas.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
If you guys weren't in de Las Soul individually, what
group would y'all be in?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I would be in Gangstar. I love that you and
Guru going back and forth. I would be a Gangstar
without question.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I never thought about that. I don't know think about
it now. Two Life Crew.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Nause No.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
But you know, and this is crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
The only reason I thought it was because like your style,
I always thought it was dope in New York, because
you know, you know how like Miami really took to that. Yeah,
it really open cuts. And that's the only reason why
I said that.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I probably I probably went back in time and been
part of like Flashing, the Furious five of Fire.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Who do you think because you're such a you know,
when when we think of you know, jam Master J
or DJ bat Boo, you're you're one of those guys, right,
you are the you are the backbone of your group, right,
And I want to know as as a DJ, as
a producer, sir, who do you look at as somebody
(23:04):
who's a part of a group or even just someone
who's a DJ for an artist where you're just like yo, kudos,
like you're very like you're you're really a part of
this ship. Like because there's so many guys who have
had DJs for twenty years that maybe you know, even
a solo artist where the DJs is so fired, like, yeah,
is there anybody who sticks out when I ask you that?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Of course Master Jay, of course a Prince Paul Chatter
Prince Paul for KG from by Nature.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, man, listen.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Those are the ones that really for me to.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Be an MC, blessed to be an MC and think
of a dope DJ who can then come out from
from just being a DJ and a producer is.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Large professor, large profession DJ.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
His ass off and the way he cut records back
and forth is not just cutting him back and forth,
but like he forms like a song out of it.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
You'll go from the break, here's a mutant.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, world, he's one of them, you know who was like,
you know, to be what What was the most recent
viral moment that showed how important having a fire DJ
is was the Locks dipset battle Technician. Yeah that boy yo,
that that ship was as much as his Yeah, it
(24:20):
was showed.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Up for sure. Man.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's so good man.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Were you guys, because you guys always.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Kind of get like attributed with having like psychedelic vibes
to your art, to your aesthetic.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Were you guys doing like any shrooms back in the day?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Man, I'm sure you guys hear that though we heard
yeah a lot, but nah, I.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Would even get off of those things. And like, nah,
beyond rock.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Were you guys smoking a lot back then?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I smoked? We Yeah, for a long time. I never
smoked ever. So what was the inspiration I think about? Like,
I mean, you guys kind of brought color to hip hop.
I feel like colored people. No, no, no, Jesus Jesus Christ,
don't put that on. Don't put that.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I mean just like when I think of like you know,
three feet high and rising and and and just like
that's such a snapshot of music at that time, and
you guys brought that, I mean they turned into a dunk.
Like what was it like you know, can you just
kind of take me back to that creating that album
(25:31):
and just kind of the aesthetic that y'all were on then, like.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
We leaned into.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
You know, we loved any and everything that was out
at that time. If it was Juice Crew, we loved it.
If it was Rock Him, we loved it. Like too Short,
Too Short, we loved it. But we just as individuals
loved what we loved as well. And how we identified
ourselves Withether, how Mace identified himself as a DJ at
(25:58):
that time, me as an MC, and Day and Me
and Day really ed egged each other on, like to
really lean into like being different. And we you know,
we loved I'm talking about loved Ultramagnetic because they had
the most amazing beats, but they just talked a bit
differently and you and You considered them hard like hard rocks,
(26:20):
but they were like talking with these large, larger than
life words and that spoke to me, and that spoke
to Dave or like how Chuck us three was that
really spoke to us how they talk and so that
it was just something that was just something we knew
that that's what we want to do. When we saw
Bizmarck and he could have the hardest beats but have
(26:40):
fun in it. That spoke to us, you know, so
that is kind of a part of allowing us to
be like, yo, let's give that in what we do.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
We loved Koogie Rat, but we just knew we.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Couldn't stand there acting like we're on the block and
we could listen to it, but that just wasn't what
we did, you know.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
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slap Woods for presenting the podcast only papers I smoke
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the Blue Leg Cap podcast. We just did a crazy
pool party with them too. That was insane out here
in La. So shout out to slap Woods. When I
tell you man quality, They smoke so good, and they're
called slap Woods because they slap I know that's like
(27:21):
their you know, their tagline, but it's also the truth.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
All right.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
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you hit their website. And if you're at your local
smoke shop, if you're your local store and you need
some papers, get you some slap Woods. And you know,
I think pretty soon I want to do we are
going to do this pretty soon I want to do
a giveaway with some Slapwood stuff, so be on the
lookout for that. We'll be announcing it on the podcast.
(27:47):
We're gonna be sending out obviously, you got to be
of age sending out a good box of these goodies. Oh,
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dot com, follow them on Instagram at slap woods. Let's
get back to the podcast and then you guys dropped
dassole is Dead? What was like? When did y'all come
up with that title? And because you know what I'm saying,
(28:09):
it's it's kind of like the pendulum swings the other way.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Well, it started with a ridiculous tour schedule that we
saw on the calendar.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Rush like the big board.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yeah, and Dave, we raced out everywhere, had us on
the calendar. He wrote they lost all his dead on
all the dates and he held on to the title.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah. We laughed so hard right there.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
We was like, yeah, wow, he held it in his head.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I like easy instead of pause, easy, like no commodores?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
What was uh?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Because I feel like the imagery of the cover with
the flower pot being tipped over.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yeah. Man, it was just about you know.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
And it was like an evolution in a sense, like
when once we realized like the title itself just sounded
cool for whatever reason to us, then we start putting
meaning beyond it behind it, Like death was an evolution
maybe to the next plane. So he was like, yo,
let's bring the look of the aesthetic of the first
album and what people was putting on us to an end,
(29:22):
because we're just going to move on to something else.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
The whole Daisy age concept was getting misconstrued, right, and
it was putting this image on us that.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Could have heard us maybe even put you in a box.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yeah, and it could have hurt us over the long run,
you know. So it was best that we killed it
before it killed us.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
And I mean the label was scared of us doing that.
It's like, why would.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
You do that? Did you guys go away?
Speaker 5 (29:49):
And why would you say Daylight so is dead? Like
how could you do that? And he was like, because
we can, that's what we want to do. And it
was like, look, these new guys PM don they just
came out on arrest development. They're gonna take what you
did and they're gonna run with it. Well, it was like,
well let him run because we're not doing that again.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
You know, you guys are kind of like the inventors
of the skit, if you will.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
When did you guys just say that should be its
own thing?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Like?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
That's because because if you think about, like at the time,
like a skit's not a thing.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Nah, that's a wild thing to give a track to
on a CD. You know, it was just something natural, man.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
It was from the first thing.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Yeah, even before that, like even when we would just
be in the house. Skits originated for us because we
were clowning around when we should have been rehearsing. Right,
So if Mace's DJAN and we should be me and
Dave should be trying to say our rhyme, Dave start
clowning around as Mace's DJ, and he'll just start trying
to talk.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
And the record button is on on.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
And he's trying to talk another language, or act like
he's Irish, or do something silly, and then it just
wanted to As May said, we wouldn't erase it, and
we just start compiling all this clowning around on tape.
That's yeah, that was it. Smile and the smiles I'm bugging.
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Prince Paul heard it, and then Prince Paul would show
us like, yo, like this is crazy because this is
what me and my friends do. And he put in
like videotapes of him and his friend's overdubbing karate flicks.
So we just realized we had this thing in common
of this this funny style of things to do. So
once we got the deal, we kept that. Like that
(31:36):
skit that's on the first single, where was that the
Dan Stucky thing? That was just something that was already done.
We didn't make it for a single. We didn't make
it for the single. We just thought, for some crazy reason,
let's put this on this twelve inch. Once we tried
it on that twelve inch and we start getting results
(31:56):
of people loving it, then it was like, well, let's
do it again and then forget it for the album.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It was just like, Okay, this is what we do.
We add this and songs to what we do.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Was there ever a something that started out as a
skit that sparked a song like It's.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
Hard to say, because I mean, a skit for us
can be a song, like even on a new album,
this new album will be as a skit to me,
but someone will be like it's a song. It was
a skit made to set up the packs record. I
knew that I wanted to have something with fast and
it needed to slow down.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
And literally like, Yo, why is it slowing down? Because
the next song will yeah start.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
That's the only reason why I made that, for no
other reason. And then when I found the exact record
that I thought it could be great to do it with,
we did it so skits for us always could. I
mean like hay Love on Daylight Always Dead. That was
a skit, but it was long enough to be a song.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
What's your guys' favorite non album Daylight record? Because you
guys have so many, Like, uh, what was the Trouble
in the Water on the Honda album?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I had some shit.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
That's a beautiful What y'all favorite record that that didn't
end up on a day last soul album?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Oh wow? Feva Chanel Chanel number number of Fever.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
That's the record high school high track.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Nope, that was on the Men in.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Black Night, the first Men in Black, Men and Black.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
It was first Man in Black.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Hey, nice check for that. There's a video for that too, right, nah, just.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
The song is on there.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah yeah, And I think they played back when soundtracks
were great.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Play at the end of the movie, like when he
started to go through some of the soundtrack.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
That's the record.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Can you guys tell me on this project, because this project,
like I said, man, it's up there with the best albums.
I feel like when people hear it comes out tomorrow, no,
Thursday night in l A, Friday.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
The twenty first, whenever that is.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Friday midnight wherever you are on the twenty first.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
And I'm sure it changes for you guys, But which
each one of y'alls, like, what's your guys' favorite song?
Speaker 5 (34:02):
It really is how you said it one moment. I
could be on this these four songs for a week
and then all of a sudden, I remember another song
and I just I always just laugh, not laugh, but
smile that. That's such a great place to be with.
You really love your own album. So, I mean, one
(34:23):
I could say is running.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Back without without a question.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
I mean I just loved it when it was just
an instrumental with nothing on it. Different world hits different
for me. I love that a lot. You don't stop.
I just absolutely love it's just a lot.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
It's a lot. It's a lot of different ones on it.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
For me.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Ask a quick sixteen for Mama with kill a Mike. Yeah,
that shit was creazy.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I love that record.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
Yeah, what about.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
You running back quick sixteen for Mama. I always forget
the title of this one.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Just how it is?
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Sometimes, just how it is? Sometimes that's my joint.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, if you guys could put together, you're like twenty
twenty five version of Day Last Soul with artists who
are current.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Who would fit the mold? Who would you guys plug in?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
They gotta be like really new, new new.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I mean, look, let's say the last you know, fifteen
twenty years Oh, then that's easy that Tyler Earle jid
someone else, I would say.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
A little bit more.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Harder, absol. J Cole, not in mine, Absol. I like this,
shout out the solo man. That brother is crazy. Yeah,
I think that's a good one for me.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
You know, what about you? I can't really call it.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Anybody who he left out besides j Cole.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Mm hmm you said in the last fifteen mm hmm
hmmm Anderson.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Pack, Oh Anderson be nice.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
That man even knowledge when they do the so man,
I just would be the Prince Paul like he was.
I should be really dope.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
My brain is?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I always wondered obviously Q Tips on the new album,
you guys have such a brotherhood with Tip and recipes
to Fife, and we think.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
About Tribe, we think about Daylight.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
You guys are synonymous with each other, like I can
only imagine, because I'm sure you guys were just in
the studio with each other all the time. What was
it like ever like a friendly rivalry between you guys,
because it was just like it had to be.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Like a you know, steel sharp and steel.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
Yeah really, but in a real friendly like for me
and I like I can't even speak for me.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
For me, it was like inspiration.
Speaker 5 (37:03):
Like when I would be around Q Tip and he
could just play me something that is so crazy and
have the nerve to then erase it in front of me.
I would be like, Yo, this dude is crazy. If
he know he just can just sit on stuff like
that that he can just erase a beat, I gotta
get my ship together. Like that's what it was for me.
I was just really inspired around him in Africa because
(37:25):
those dudes was like really really dope to me.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
So yeah, I'm always inspired by Tip. Actually stopped coming
to the studio because of that, because you hear one
thing and you fall in love with it and then
it's totally something else or it didn't make the album.
So after the after the second album with Tribe, I
stopped showing up.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
I wait, I wait to finish.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, yeah, because you want to hear to finished product.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
I mean, it's just too many to name, Like everything
is fair, like the original to everything is fair.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Like you hear on the record is not. That was
one of the songs broke my heart. I love what's
on the record, but the original in the studio it was.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It's interesting because if you go back to like early
nineties New York hip hop, you know, you guys kind
of laid the the groundwork and then it kind of
feels like, you know, we always have like these I
would say, like kind of like weird divisions in hip hop,
people's styles, people's you know, movements, and I can only imagine.
So you guys are coming up, tribes coming up. Obviously
(38:34):
public enemy is already a thing, and then you get
like Wu Tang Nas Biggie later totally different vibe but
it's kind of crazy that y'all didn't like mesh more
together then, was it? Because y'all were just kind of
on like they obviously Wu Tang was on some street
shit like.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Nah, the industry was just changing, man, things were actually changing,
and everybody was moving according to the change.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Because outside of that, we we all hung around each other, right,
I mean, Rizza loved principle, he loved us.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
He would I mean, yeah, he would always be around us.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
But yeah, like as May said when we started in
eighty nine, yeah, if Wu Tang and Nasingham was out,
then we would all been on tour together.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's just changed. First, Yeah, it just changed that.
Speaker 5 (39:22):
By the time they were prevalent, they the system was
set up like someone who has to be exactly like
Wu Tang will be together with them, you know, like
rough Riders will be I don't know if someone who's
got the same energy as them opposed to them being
with daily.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Yeah, you see rough riders and maybe Rockefellers like that,
right right, right, So they start marrying synonymous groups as
opposed to mixing a bunch of different fruit together, you know,
which where we come from, we was all mixed up
we was mixed.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Dean on a tour of run ding m C like
you know more style oldest stick with Fudini running seas
rough around the edges. But they were on tour together
right but it was like if they were still together
in the era we came in, they would have never
been near each other like Wodini would have been with
like heavy d.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Right right right right right right there. And we toured
with l n W A two short cane select wreck.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
D o C.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
We all loved the one room so crazy, Yeah, what's
the n W?
Speaker 3 (40:28):
What's what like?
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Being like on tour and we had the best to
this day, the best live that's.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Possible for they live show and.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
They inspired have the best the best way.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Knowing how to be n W A know how to
turn a dead room into a very live atmosphere like
to be to come in the room and people are
just sitting.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
They know how to go from the top.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
It would be like I would even to this day,
funny enough, I've never asked them like I would just
want to know how or who taught them to be
so on point with their live show because for them
to be so many people they even broke that up
d C first Yellow and dre Q by himself didn't
(41:20):
eat like they they gave you doses of themselves and
then and.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Then the whole.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
It was just crazy. They had such great show that
they had thirty minutes. They could pull all all together
in thirty minutes, and it was insane.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
They had to broad They had to Broadway play aspect
like prostitutes walking with props up in like manhole, like
they came out of the manhole, like they.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Had DJ on two garbage can Yo.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
It was crazy.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
It's crazy, you know, like poles set up and holes
on the corner. Are you kicking it backstage on? Because
I can just imagine, like, because obviously Q.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Did a really good job of like you know, going
to New York and working on was most wanted, but
that was, you know a little bit later on shore.
But I can just imagine how crazy it to have
been if would have got he was working on that
y'all's world together.
Speaker 5 (42:12):
But he was working on that then because we didn't
know that they had issues and all that, right, because
Cbe me and him went to the mall during that
tour in eighty nine and he he kicked me to
run till little boys and girls.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
They all know me. He went through all that.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
I was like, Yo, that's crazy, that's forys something I'm
working on.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
So he already developing at that point.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Did you guys ever flirt with like doing a session together,
Like see if you guys cooked some shit up, would
a love to? I mean I'm a lot harder back then,
by the way. Yeah, because your studio, you could pull
the studio over the hotel on the.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
Box exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, it's like real to real days, you know, trying
to find a studio on some random city and like, you.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Know, I'm sure it's not as easy.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
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Speaker 1 (43:40):
You guys are on. You know, one of the coolest
songs ever. You know, I think about today's world in
which there's artists who are thinking about the gorillas. Obviously
the gorillas are like kind of the you know, shots
of the gorillas, But Bill Good Inc. Was such a
big song, and like, how did y'all get pitched there?
(44:01):
The idea?
Speaker 5 (44:03):
Just friends who knew them and us and they just
start asking like, yo, would you would you ever want
to work with the gorilla? And he's like, oh, you
mean the dude who worked with Dell.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
I was like.
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Yeah, And from there I guess they let them know
and it just kind of started from that point.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Did you guys know it was going to be like
a cartoon group.
Speaker 5 (44:22):
We knew the cartoon group only because they had from
when they did the first album and Dell was on
that guy.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
And hotly did a DJ toy with Danny Ortman, who
produced that song.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
And learning all of that.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I feel like, like low key, like what's kind of
going on right now? Where you got like writers like
kind of doing the AI thing. It's kind of like
in a weird way, like prophetic what the Gorillas did.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Yeah, no, without question, and I mean, you know, Damon
meeting him, it was just just.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
You know, we just became like family after that.
Speaker 5 (44:56):
I mean, he was such a great musician, great creative mind,
willing to work and try and do anything even when
he and he reminds me a lot of cute tip
like even when he has the smash, he's like, all right,
but let me see how it is if I do
a variant cover, let me flip it another way. Your
mates try to add this, do that, blah blah blah.
(45:17):
Like That's how he was, and it was just we
just love that about him. So from that point on, man,
we just became like family.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
During One of my favorite verses that happened during the
pandemic was the Primo Risen one, And I remember that
one like made me think like could they assa on tribe,
do like a friendly fun versus did they ever hit
you guys up?
Speaker 5 (45:41):
It floated around. I mean, you know, it floated around,
and not that we would have had an issue with it.
I just didn't think it would happen. You know, I'm
being honest. I didn't think it would happen because I know, like.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It doesn't feel like the kind of thing Tip would
do it all. Tip don't like to be outside let alone.
Speaker 5 (45:59):
You're just doing that without having the artillery of his
man like fight.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Worse, it makes it a lot different.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
So yeah, I think I was just thinking when it
was like the IG live version and fools were like
at the.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Crib just playing ship.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Yeah, that was my favorite versus era what it was
like super like we're stuck at home, everyone's got rubber gloves.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
When we go to the groceries.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
What a wild time, wild time Man. Obviously, with this
new album Man Cabin in the Sky, it is you know,
like I said, it's just it's such a beautiful tribute
to Dave. You know, when you guys initially start playing
these records for people who are close, Uh what what
(46:46):
is some of the reactions you're getting, you know, because
I can imagine they got to be emotional, they got
I mean so.
Speaker 4 (46:52):
Right, okay, the reactions. I mean, I made sure I
got it to the homies we grew up with, you know.
I did a zoom call played the record for all
the homies that definitely stuck really close to Dave, especially
when he would come off the road. So I got
the opportunity to play it for them, and they cried.
A lot of them were like thank you. I'm going
(47:14):
to tell you this too. It was like, I know
the Monarchs is thank you Dave, but there was like
thank you, Mace, thank you pass. It was like it
helped give them closure, you know, because a lot of
them was with him the night before he passed, so
it threw them off knowing like they just had a
(47:35):
ill conversation, laughing and joking and wake up the next
day he was gone. So it was a big void
for a few of the homies and the record gave
them closure. Definitely therapeutic, you know, it hit all the
emotions of joy and pain. Yeah, you know, so you
know it was. It's one for the books for everybody
(47:58):
to who who really loved Dave?
Speaker 2 (48:01):
Was this closure for you guys too? You feel like
at least some help.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
Definitely therapeutic. I can't really say closure, but therapeutic knowing
we had more plans and we still, you know, gonna
continue to these plans we had.
Speaker 5 (48:18):
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely not closure for me, but
because but it's not like for it to be so
called open that I have a negative or disagreeable issue
with Dave.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
I you know, just losing my mom at an early age.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
My my relationship with death has just been different since
age eighteen.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
So, I mean, Dave's right next to me. That's how
I always looked at it from the Yeah, I mean
that's how you talk about it, this project.
Speaker 5 (48:45):
Yeah, so it's it wasn't a closure thing for me.
It's just a mission that I'm on just to make
sure like no one could and I know no one
could ever forget him. So that's even selfish to say
his niggas l So no one's gonna forget him. I'm
just down and still be right there with them. Rocking
and making sure that Daylight keeps it going.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Are you guys gonna tour? Yeah, because a woman this
music is going to be like you know, no, definitely, I.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Mean it's definitely plans to implement the new music and
the show. Well, we always stayed toring. I think people
are finally gonna pay attention that we've been out there, right,
so you know, come on out and check us out.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
I wonder you guys have so many errors of y'all's career,
all the way from the early ship, the AOI Ron.
What's y'all, what do y'all think is the most underrated
era of the day journey or the most underrated project?
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Balloon mind State.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
That is like y'all's like fucking reservoir Dogs, you know.
Speaker 3 (49:46):
Saying it was the least successful.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
But we really felt good about it, and over the
course of time, there was a lot of people to come.
They came back on it. Yeah, it seemed like it
was a record that was I guess it.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Is a very grown up, mature.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
Record musically, you know, lyrically, and we witnessed a lot
of people come back on it.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
Yeah, they'll be like, yo, that was my least favorite
album at that time, and they was you know, they'll
be like, it's become one of my favorite records.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Was that was.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
The reception to that album. The reason why it took
a few years to get stakes is high.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
No, we were just touring. We just loved the tour.
Speaker 4 (50:27):
What was happening, right, Yeah, having kids of course in
and out of health complications and things like that, and I.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
Had I had a health issue. Yeah, so that's why
the album stopped.
Speaker 5 (50:40):
Yeah, we were The next single would have been like,
I am a b who was going to shoot a video,
but I got really sick and I was in the
hospital for like almost like two and a half months.
Speaker 3 (50:48):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (50:49):
So that's kind of that really shut down the album.
But yeah, I mean people love this album now, like
they'd be like, yo, man, it's become one of my
favorite albums. And I know how it is when you
can listen to songs and take things for granted then
and and then your whole out take your your outlook
on things are different when you get older.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
What's your guys album of the year outside of your own,
because we've had some ship this.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Year, man, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Man.
Speaker 5 (51:19):
So I have to say I can't I can't even
ask that question.
Speaker 4 (51:26):
Wow, you know, I don't even go into listening to
records with that on my mind like that.
Speaker 2 (51:31):
But what's one of what some of your favorite ship
that drop this year?
Speaker 3 (51:34):
It's been good for me.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I mean, you know, I don't know if it's gonna
be album the year, but the new the new.
Speaker 5 (51:40):
Young j Zy, the New j Z and drama should
I played that ship every day every day.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
I can appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (51:51):
I love I love I love Jid's album, and I
know he's up for a Grammy.
Speaker 1 (51:57):
He's performing tonight in l Word. Yeah, he's got his
tours in town.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
Try to chuck that out. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
I love his new album he's got is up for
wrap Album of the Year.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
Indeed, Yeah, are you would you.
Speaker 1 (52:11):
Guys say, like, is there is there anybody who you
guys have just kind of taken to from on some
fan ship in the last few years that that is
because to me is somebody who's kind of the newer
you know, he's.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
Yeah, he's super dope man.
Speaker 4 (52:21):
Yeah, you know, he's one and the one I'm watching,
you know, I'm watching it and enjoying them. I look
at these catch I'm not going They don't need no help, right,
you know. Yeah, they're doing an awesome job, you know
what I mean. So I'm just enjoying the show.
Speaker 5 (52:37):
I'll tell you one thing. I don't know what award
he can win, but he needs to win something. I
don't know, a Webbie something. Alchemist. Alchemist is out here.
Fucking yeah, you're talking about mass Bill Alchemists is doing god.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Damn just this year alone. Yeah, let alone in the
last five.
Speaker 3 (52:53):
Years, but this year alone. He's arry June two, Change.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
Ship, the fucking Freddy Ship, the mockep.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
Out, Jesu's one right now. Yeah, the Gibbs album is crazy, afraid.
I think that got I think that album got snubbed
and so and the Chance album is really good. If
you guys listen to the Chances album. The Chance album
is great, great album, great album. Give it a listen, y'all.
The Child, Yeah, well listen, man, y'all's new ship is incredible,
(53:22):
even in the sky. I think it's in that conversation
for album of the Year. I think you know you
guys delivered, and I hope this. You said that you
have so much unreleased stuff that is for the next thing.
So this is by no means the Last Day Last Soul.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Prod All.
Speaker 4 (53:40):
We actually love to do a record with Reservoir, so
the label that's actually holding the.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Catalog.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, so that makes sense. That's dope.
Speaker 3 (53:51):
Man.
Speaker 1 (53:52):
Well listen, brother, hey, when you guys are putting out music,
it's a beautiful it's a beautiful thing. You so go
support the album and I'm sure you guys would be
hitting the city soon. Wherever somebody's watching this, look it
up or day Las Soul much love, brothers, thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
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