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Blueleg Cat Podcast special guests here. Good to see you,
(01:10):
Thank you. Uh, nice to meet you too. How long
have you been in the US on this trip?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Sue days?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A couple of days promoting the new album?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yes, I was. I did want to stream?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Who stream? Did you do?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Black Boy?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh? Nice? Did you guys make a song?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It was like eating ohok bank, the mook bang thing, eating,
like teaching him how to eat sushi.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
How do you did he not know how to eat sushi?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
There's a lot of science to it because he was
like pouring soy sauce on top of sushi.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I said, don't pour.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
You're supposed to dip. Yeah, like just a little. And
there's certain soy sauce or certain sushi you're not supposed
to You're supposed to do ponzu.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Or nothing, so you know.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
So, yeah, I love sushi. I was just in Japan
and it was it was my favorite food trip of
all time. I ate so much. It was like even
like the cheaper places where the conveyor belts yep, where
you just order and then it just shoots out and
you're like, the food isn't better than any sushi had
in America. And then we went to like the really
nice places and it was just so good. You guys
are I would say Japanese food and Mexican food the
(02:25):
best food, yep, for sure. So you had fun Like
the muckbang? Is that where like people eat a bunch
of shit at once?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah? I think so. It's a Korean word that.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I just think of the like girls on like TikTok
that like bite into like crazy shit and it's like,
oh but yeah, nonetheless, But yeah, how did you you?
You know, so many American hip hop fans have been
wanting The Riza to produce a whole album. How were
(02:55):
you able to make that happen?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It was at first he wanted to come to Japan
for filming projects, okay, and he needed somebody to guide through,
you know, the community and show him places. And so
I got in touch with them and we started talking
and he was like he found out that I'm from Okinawa,
(03:23):
which is the birthplace of karate, like mister Miyagi.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
That's where it's Oh, I mean you have the wax
on wax off song.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yes, yes, I do karate too, you do karate? Nice?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Are you? Like what belt? Are you?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Black? First degree black belt?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Let's be clear, she came with no security because she
does not need it.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
No, I'm just playing. But yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And also I was married to American.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Who he was like a five percent right obviously is
very much like a part of the you know, the nation. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And so when we were started, like when we started talking,
he was like, you know your like lessons, you got
knowledge yourself. I said, yes, please, you know the god
you know who passed away, you know, taught me all
of these lessons. And and so he was like.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
All right, you're different right where you been at.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
On the other side of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Like, you know, I've been holding on to this knowledge
and and like living my life accordingly and making my
you know, achievements in life.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
He was like, all right, this is something that we
have to tell the world.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
You have a very unique story for sure. Yeah. So
he was just like, because musically, is it intimidating.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Too, because there, you know, it was intimidated at first,
but then I was like, you know, I have to
get through it. And I understand why people wouldn't like
go through with it, like because it's a it's a.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
It's like a training process.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It's really it's really like thirty six chambers of showerling crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
He finished with one chamber next.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And it's not easy because he will he's he's just
the abbot, he's a master.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, he's.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
To work with me.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
He don't have you know, he made all of the
all of the treatments in his life already. So it
was just me like just sticking with the master, right,
and I just I just you know, follow through with it.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
But many times I just almost quit.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Really what was it about?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Like he would never say beats, you have to go
get it.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, it feels like he's the kind of guy that
like you're not going to get an email with just
like a drop box folder of beats to go through.
It's like, no, you have to, You've got to go.
You have to make it happen. Like the he's not
even doing Wu Tang members albums, so.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Wherever he's at, yeah, you gotta go see him, right,
And he won't even tell you to come see me.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
You just gotta you, just gotta you, just gotta go, and.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Like call him like peace, I'm here right and then
he'll let he'll he'll open the gate.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Where all did you have to go?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
We met in La.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Of course, yeah, of course in New York. Yeah, so
what was the like, how long I guess did it
take to complete the album? From three years? Three years?
So you've been working on so while you're putting out
other music, you have this RISD project that you're working on.
In the cut, Yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
And also.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It took a minute because it was like, you know,
all the record companies and like labels that was telling
me not to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Really, Yeah, for this is such an accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I know, it's the most honorable thing I've done in
my life. It was an honor to work with him,
and it was but before I started working with them,
when we decided to work on album, when he said like,
y'all want to produce your whole album? I was like
so excited, But then I started talking to everybody. They
(07:41):
were like, I don't think it's a good idea. I
don't think you could go follow through with it. I
don't think this is like like urgent sound.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Right, because I feel like, you know, what I do
feel like is like I noticed a lot of Japanese
rappers will try to chase like whatever is like hot
in America at the moment, and sometimes it feels like
a little inorganic. So like when I listen to your album,
I was like, yo, this ship is like, first of all,
a whole album produced by the Reds. As a Wu
Tang fan, this is a big deal. We don't get
(08:10):
we don't get that. Yeah, but I also just feel
like it was like executed just wonderfully.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So thank you so much, thank you so much. Yeah,
I just didn't want to just do it and put
it out. We went through it so many times, many beats.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And also the features dope features on the.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Appare crazy, Yeah you got and these are like the
real friendship.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Well, I know you're on Ferg's album. Yeah, we talked
about that. He told me you were on his album.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yes, man, Ferg is like really brothers and sister.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He wanted to be like next Nigo and for Real's great.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah yeah, and he's on two songs in your album,
right yeah, yeah, ye shot to Ferg. Yes, Yeah, were
you at the Forest Festival out there when he performed,
I was, yeah, it was a fun time. That ship
was kind of crazy. It was crazyhout yeah, shout out
to those guys. Did you like what how did you
(09:11):
initially discover like Wu Tang was like, like, how did
you get up on the Wu Tang? Like as a fan?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Like my husband, your.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Husband or not your acean, your late husband, sorry because
obviously he was like he's from New York for then,
so he got did he put you up on all
the like boom back East Coast rap shit, all of
the all.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Of the guys like Bernubians or righteous teachers and like
big Daddy.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
King, oh ship, so he puts you.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
On and MF doom, MF doom.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Hell Yeah. Do you feel like because I feel like
that you have like a unique perspective where you're obviously
influenced by what you're influenced by, but you also you
can't help but be influenced by the real dope rap shit,
you know what I mean? Like, I feel like that
makes you pretty unique? Is there is Do you feel
like there's like a above like tell because I feel
like a lot of Americans don't understand how crazy the
(10:08):
music scene is in Japan, and I I can speak
from like the perspective of like we don't really have
record stores like that, but if you go to Japan,
like there's a seven story tower records. Yes, there's an
entire jpop floor. Yeah you know what I mean. Like
it's like its own music industries.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Stay bop runs on physicals, like you actually anyone's buying
buying physical CDs, cassette, tis records, the.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Vinyl record.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah. You guys like still sell stuff out here. It's
like everyone's worried about Spotify numbers, and it's like, why
don't y'all try to sell with something. Do you feel
like that's like a big part of your kind of
like your uh, you know, your infrastructure as an artist,
making sure like hey I have this cold following or
this huge following in my country, I'm gonna make sure
(11:06):
when we drop we give them something to buy.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yep, yeah definitely, And they already are is asking me
like I get mad, damn, like when this is coming
out as a record, vinyls, we need it, we need
it coming out percent.
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I do feel like there's a bit of like a
rent in America in terms of like where you're from.
Okinawa is obviously it's a part of Japan, but it
(13:07):
wasn't always a part of Japan. And I know you're
very proud of your heritage. Can you kind of give
us some.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, Okay, Now, we used to be a kingdom and
then we had like Japan came to take over and
became part of Japan. But after World War Two Japan
gave okay now to America.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, for like thirty years or something that.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, yeah, the forties to the seventies.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And so that's where our bases are over there, right, yeah, yeah, all.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Of the bases is in Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Now, so my parents' era was America and my era
we still have like heavy concentration on the US military
and heavy heavy influence.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
By Americans, and.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
We as a child, we look up to all of that, right,
you know what I mean? And always like the festival.
They're doing festivals, big PiZZ of big ice cream, the music,
big personality.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
You guys are eating hot dogs and pizzage, French fries and.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Minds is the blue zone area?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Do you know? That blue zone is the area in
the on the planet where people live. Average people lived
two hundred over a hundred for everybody. There's like my
grandmother was one hundred and two, my grandfather was one
hundred and four. Past Why do you think that is
the diet before American game right before you.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Guys got implemented with French fries and hot dogs, not.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Anymore, I guess, But was the diet because it was
the seaweed.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Seaweed. That's the key, is the seaweed.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I think seaweed and the fact that we eat everything.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
And a nice balance. We do eat meat and right,
but everything is in the Golden balance.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I do feel like because we are in like the
obesity capital of the world. You see that, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Was just at the restaurant over there, like down the streets, sizes,
the portions.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, it's just crazy. And then it's like, but it's
also like when you go to like Asia, anywhere in Asia,
like Japan specifically, the food just tastes so clean. Yeah,
like there's like no preservatives like our shit. Like if
you leave a McDonald's burger out in America, it'll look
the same after two years if you just left a yeah,
because it's blessing.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And then McDonald's in Japan or like Thailand tastes so good.
It's like tastes the same, but it feels like, yeah,
it doesn't sit on you as heavy. How do you
feel like the because I do feel like it is
always an uphill battle to be an artist, not even
necessary specifically Japan, but just anywhere that isn't the US
(16:04):
or Canada. Canada's broken through because a drink. But what
is that uphill battle like trying to get acceptance in
the States, And is it something you even care about?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Like, yeah, I do care, and I do express this
concern of being judged because I'm an Asian woman that
my artistry is not worth checking right or.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
And people will.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Be like, yeah, you know, for the dumbest reason, people
do judge you and they're not gonna take you seriously.
But you just got to show up and talk to people.
And all of the people that you personally met and
talked to whore put in the notes like there's a
real one, right you gotta you know, I've been traveling,
(16:53):
so all of the record label was telling me no,
so we went independent.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
So right now this album's independent. Yes, Wow, that's big. Yes, Yes,
So I've.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Been you know, because I do. I know a little
bit of karate. I'll just be moving by myself.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well, if you're a black, you're a black. I don't
know if you know a little bit. It sounds like,
you know a lot of a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I travel about myself and like you know, knock on
people's door life.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
So you move around mostly solo. Yeah, Like, at what
age did you pick up the karate thing? Was that
like early early in life.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Or yeah, in junior high school so probably like thirteen, Wow,
well thirteen.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Did you like go to tournaments and all that.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
One time. My my style, let's called matchibios.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You do wasn't really big on like fighting, but the
kata okay, the actual battles okay was not really our thing,
but like really.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Expertise and you know, kata is like the movement.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah I know, yeah, yeh yeah, yea, yeah yeah yeah
yeah that's dope. Yeah, So I feel like, yeah, you
that's why it's so dope that you've got to work
with the Rizz of Theriz is like and I took
him too, and he's also like executive produced like dope
martial arts movies. Like I went to the kill Bill
restaurant by the way, what's that place called in Tokyo?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, good place.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yes, the food did not stop coming for you. Can
you kind of which feature on this album were you
most excited to get done? Obviously for your friends, so
that was easy you guys. But you got some dope
features on this album. What was one that you were like, yo,
this one came over the finish line, This is like,
I'm excited for this one.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Well, West Side Gun he.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Was out in Tokyo recently, shout to Madame Moves that's there.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
We called him over there.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
To Madam Moose to do the shows okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
At the Old East, So I opened for him.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, just because I wanted to do a track with him.
We make this whole scheme of like, Okay, if we
call him to do a show, he's going to be
here hanging out with me, so we can do a track.
And he agreed and he came, and but the whole
time he was there, you know, he was busy with
(19:24):
a fam or like shopping, and they didn't have time.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
To do a song with me.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But I already let him listen to to what I've
been working on.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
He was like, it's dope.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I feel like once you say, hey, I have a
Riza beat for.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You that we already did, already did did the beat,
it was like, Yo, it's dope.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Riza did his thing, you did his thing, you did
your thing, and it's it's easy. I got it. But
then it didn't come for a long time. One day,
it was like three days before the.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Submission date, and it came in.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I get I get an email from him at length.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Wow, so it's right right, It was right at the
finish line, beautiful verse.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah.
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involved are you when it comes to just like very
just yeah, because they are.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I would make Yeah, but my producer, like my
directors that I use, is like definitely friends and like
you talk about we talk about it for a long
time before we even shoot it. It will go in
and like do a research with the books and like
the history on whatever we want to you know, express
(21:50):
in the video, and then he would just execute it beautifully.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, Like the wax and wax Ow video is pretty crazy. Yeah,
you executed that. That shot was any of the shot here?
No over there?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yes, we call like individually, we call him. We flew
them over there.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
It's a samurai loope and he traveled.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
He's the one who travels everywhere. So Loo he's not
scared of ship.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Well yeah he I think I think he's a badass.
I think he is.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I've seen him, seen him do it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah. And he's a teacher.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
He's a teacher.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, he does a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys
and everything.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
No, Ferg brought it like he made it. It's a
leather ge mm hmmm. It's like it's not you like
it's he.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Made it Taylor. He got it Taylor somewhere in New
York and he brought it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
How crazy? Because do you deal with Because out here
I feel like your guys is culture is so respectful
and even like the fans are super respectful. I feel
like out here our fans are kind of crazy, like
they just be jumping out d M and motherfuckers. Like
it gets it gets weird. Like I was walking around
Tokyo with Vingo from Bad Hop and I saw like
(23:07):
people freaking out, but they were freaking out respectfully. Yeah, Like,
have you ever had any crazy experiences with like any
wild fans out there?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I have some stalkers stalkers Yeah, wow, Like when you
say stalkers, like how are they stalking you?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
They would send me email, I mean males.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Like like to you where you live?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
To where to my parents' house? Is that he thought
I was living there? And he will send me.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
So should I because he like what did he send?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
You?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Send me his like hair and things like that, and
like he or he will tell me that you know,
he is so glad that he's married to.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Me, and and he never that's that's wild.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And then and then and then he came to one
of my shows and I didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Oh he came to my shows.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I didn't know his face, right, you just know he
sent you mail. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And then I was doing tours, yeah, and this on
a tour.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
One of the tours, the security was not like it
was like weak. And then you know a lot of
people it was just like friends, friends, friends, and he
had like crazy fashion and like I didn't know. I
thought it was somebody's friends, but he was just right
there and he started talking crazy to my friend, my
(24:37):
rapper friend. So everybody didn't like he started. They started
thinking like who is this guy? And the security came
and talked to him. Nobody knew ab knew about him,
and and they took him out and they told me
about it later.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
They were like, that's the dude, right.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And then at the same time, my mom received another
male and then she always sent me the picture of
these males and one of the one of the papers
had his.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Face picture.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh, so then you were like, I remember that guy.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
So I don't know their face, right, I don't know
his face.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But I was just talking to my friend about on
some other ship I have a stalker, like and then
he just sent me a picture of his face and
I show it to my friend. They were like, that's
the guy that was their actual tar.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Oh hell no.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
They gave me chills.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
So what happened? And then, guys, what happened next?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
He came to my parents' house.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
This is crazy. It sounds like a horror movie about that.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
He came to my parents.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
He came to my parents' house after after he got
after he got arrested in Okinawa. He was he was
like sending me mails from other places in Japan, but
then he got into to Okinawa and he got arrested
right away.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
I don't know why, but.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
The police called called me because he was speaking of
my name. So the police found out my contact information
and contact and like do you know this guy? He's
claiming that he's your husband? What I don't know him
(26:30):
and I don't know, Like why is why is he arrested?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
That's fucking crazy?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
But after he broke, after he got out of the jail,
he came right to my house so the police let
him go. Was this recently, m like last year?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Oh? Ship? So like, are you do you have a
do you guys have restraining orders?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Out there?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Like out here for him, for him we do, so
he's not like if he comes near you, he's going
to jail. Yeah that's wild. You may have to get
some fucking karate on that dude. Yeah, that ship is wild. Yeah. Yo,
I went to this place while I was in Tokyo.
I ended up going to like not by choice, by
(27:14):
the way, I got dragged to like this bar, right,
but I think it's like y'all call him hostess bars.
So I'm staying in Shinjuku, the Godzilla Hotel, and like
all around the hotel there's just like buildings with like
anime looking chicks on the on the on the building,
(27:35):
or like dudes who look like chicks kind of with
the makeups. Yeah, And I'm like, what the hell is
going on here? And then we ended up going to
somewhere in like Shabu, Yeah, and we going to this
bar to go meet some dude and it's like a
bunch of Japanese businessmen in there with girls and I'm like,
where the fuck. Shout out to my guy Taka. He
(27:57):
brought me down.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
But it was just it.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
There's like these I guess there is a strip club
in Japan, but there's mostly these like I guess they're
hosts of.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Hostess host club or hostess club, but.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
There's bars club like women will go and hang out
with these the buildings they kind of look like from
like boy bands.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, like, yeah, it's kind of crazy. It's like its
own thing. I've never seen that before.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, it's a weird culture. It was just a weird culture,
but it has it's a multi multi like a billion
market in Japan. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Like my boy was like, he's like, you don't understand.
Like he's like like these dudes are like kind of
like a thing. He's like, there's like girls who like
travel to like hang out with them at this bar
to talk them. And it looked like chicks kind of Yeah,
they got makeup.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
It's hipop champagne for them, yeah and everything. I love
going there. It's fun. It's funny.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I had an interesting time where we were drinking and
like we met with some dude and I was just
like I just like people watching, like, yeah, this is different.
I've ever seen this before. Do you live still in
Okinawa or you in Tokyo. You're in Tokyo, Okay. Yeah,
it's one of the greatest places in the world. The
best shopping ever. Yeah, oh my god. I went to
(29:15):
the Babe Store and I almost fucking I was like,
this is this is this is a problem. I'd go,
what's that big store with all the stories like that?
They're everywhere, the stories. It's like the story you could
buy anything? You could buy anything.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
There was it called oh donkey.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
No, It's like you know what the don't yeah donkey yeah,
donkey yeah, Joe. I'd go in there and bought me
a fucking suitcase because I bought so much ship.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, that's what they do.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
That store is so crazy because you could buy like anything.
I mean I turned a corner and there was a
sex toy file and almost like you what? And then
like seven feet away they have like a bunch of
us Louis Vaiton person right, and I'm like this, this
is interesting. Yeah, that's the that story. Shots of that story.
(30:08):
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Speaker 4 (30:12):
The kit Cat selection is oh yeah, much KitKat.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Not even the Macha. We can get that out here.
Y'all got some other shit that I ain't even like
blue like blueberry cheesecake, kit Cat. I'm like some different shit.
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you shoot them a visit. How did you losing your
husband like kind of affect your artistry? And just like
obviously I can only imagine and like you know, raising
a kid and you know, dealing with all that on
your own. How did that affect you?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It was like when I when I got married and
like living as a mom and a wife, I already
kind of gave up on like music. I didn't think
it would go anywhere. I was still making demos sometime
going to the studio or always writing, always writing, but
I didn't think it would be it would go anywhere.
(31:31):
So when he passed away, I went in like a
depression for maybe two years, but I kept on writing.
So writing was my therapy at that time.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Like when you guys got married, were you already making
music or yeah I was.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I was rapping already, and he was always telling me like,
don't quit, like you got to keep going, but I
just didn't think.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I just couldn't think of it to be a real life.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So after he passed away, I was writing, writing, writing,
and like constant QNA with myself, like do I want
to discontinue my life as well? Or what are we
going to do about Toyomi and my daughter? But then
I realized if I'm going to live because at that time,
(32:23):
I was already living with my parents for two years
not doing anything.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I just didn't the depression.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, I just didn't have the energy.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But also I didn't have nothing to lose at that time.
So if I don't have anything to lose and I
want to continue living, what do.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
You really want to do? And I said, I want
to do what I love, which is writing lyrics and
doing music.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
And so.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I decided to give back on my music and I
promised my daughter like and get back on music. And
she was like, do it, And I told her I
would be the best. How did she was like she
was three when he passed away, so she was like
five years old, but she was She was the one
(33:16):
person who helped me through it, like he even my
parents was trying to like get me out of the.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Bed to like you gotta go get in the world.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Yeah, she was like, no, my mom needs to rest.
Don't talk like to my mom.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
She's like, you know, she's sad, but she's just she's
the girl who you know, took the took the biggest loss,
which she was so supportive of me, and she kind
of pushed me to live again. So that kind of
the fact that I was given the second chance was
(33:54):
my motivation to kind.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Of go all out and it's worked out beautifully.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, what has been being independent like so far with
this project because you kind of got to do everything right.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, And I've tried independent, I've tried major label you
know thing, but it's it's way more ah work. But
at the same time, it's much more fun rewarding to rewarding. Yeah,
(34:27):
and you don't have to like check with the people
who don't listen to your music or who don't even
know your your your your music.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Right or your audience or yeah, they don't really know,
but they have to give me.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
They had to give me a goal sign, right, because
you want to do a project, you want to use
that budget.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
But if you don't have to do that, it's maybe
I'm working.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
With a smaller budget. But it's way more like people
are hands on all my all my team.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I probably have like three people on my team.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Wow, you guys getting a lot done with three people.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah, but they know about me left and like inside out.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, I feel like it's important, like because I feel
like sometimes labels will like just want to work with
you because they see numbers, but they don't understand not
like they don't understand the artists. They're just like, oh this,
there's there's money here, so let's figure it out and
let's try to you know.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
The only thing they tell you, like, do do the
ship that that you did that selled?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Right?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
What if I want to do album?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So it's like I want to do more invent like
like innovative stuff and do something I have to plant.
C's to the next generation of rappers coming out of
Japan and if I'm chasing numbers, I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
The there is like a bubbling scene in Japan, like uh,
you know I mentioned shots the bad Hop Ruhs Vingos
just dropped his album and then like there's like Yellow
Bucks and there's a lot of dope hip hop though
coming out of Japan. Who who do you think is
like kind of like like the up and coming folks
(36:14):
that you know Americans should try to check out.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Ben Jeji from bad Hop is a dope lyricist for.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
People don't know. Bad Hop is like a giant group
of dudes that they sold out the Tokyo Dome like
they're fucking big.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah. They they.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Broken up, Yeah yeah, they finished their still clothing line
and stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
The breathed together.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
They're still together, but like there it was official and
lived their group the Tokyo Dome.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, but that was like the goodbye right, Yeah, it's
a farewell concert, but everybody went solo and they're all good.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, so check check them out. Intown. My crew Okay,
in town, we have a dope rappers and producers.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Is that the name of your crew in town? In town,
it's my It's my group, yo getting yen and I
had I had to somehow get ten thousand dollars worth
of yen in the United States and it's so much
more money than.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
So I'm at the airport and I'm like hitting like
each little like then the guy's like, look, I can
do this much here before I have to call my
boss and then you need to go to another I
was like, all right, thank you, y in town. So
that's how how many artists are on your crew? Eleven
eleven oh damn.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Eleven but five rappers?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Okay, others are DJs and producers right right, right, right right,
but that Lex it's another dope rapper Toji and Mikado
is a young up and coming that I just was
checking out his album and it's really good.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Dope dope dope. Yeah. I feel like, uh, there's there's,
you know, so much potential out there, and like you
guys have, like I said, you guys like Japan has
its own music industry and infrastructure that it's like doesn't
really need America. I mean, obviously if America hops on,
it's great, but it's like it's it's its own thing.
Which Wu Tang member, would you want to do a song?
(38:21):
With now that you got Riz out the way you
did a whole album with him. If if you could
get a future from anybody in Wu Tang who to
be Methamn Meth, that'd be nice. Yeah. What about another
the genius of course?
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Is there another American hip hop producer that you would
like to work on a full project with if you.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Could full project?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, lock in do like ten joints.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I don't like you. An Alchemist might be kind of dope.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Yeah, Alchemists. I've been trying to reach out. I mean
I know I know him.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
He come to Tokyo give me a Freddie Gibs shot,
like a whole little bit short film out there.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yes, so him and Erica, they just did a whole album,
did a tour to the man. Erica was hanging out
or was trying to call out to come out. He
didn't come out, So we were just close to hangout.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
But it'll happen. He's also like the busiest dude in
the world is in twenty twenty five, really busy. I
think he has a clone. He's got like five albums
out at the same time. He's on three tours at once.
He's on tour with DJ for Me right now. He
just got off tour with Freddie Gibbs, him and hit
Boy Drive. Is a lot going on with album. It's
a busy guy, busy guy, busy guy. Who is an
(39:37):
American female rapper that you're a fan of that you'd
like to work with? Megan Megan isn't Glorilla big Glow
met Cardi Docii Doci might be the best live performer
in the world. I just watched her show at Camp
Flognaw Tyler the Creator's Festival, and that ship had me floored.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I want to see.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
It was uptivating. Yeah yeah, but uh, I feel like
Meg taps in with the she she's a She's an
anime big time, but she tapped in with the bro
what's the brother's name from Japan? She did the song
with who make the mag the Studians?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Oh yeah yeah, Megan, Yeah, Megan, Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I think he just moved out here. He's moving out here,
I think, so, Yeah, that's what I heard. Well, listen,
your album is out, thank you, uh okay now and
woman yep, and it is fully produced by the Rizza.
Yes you got loop A Westside Gun Mike Stoke, Joey Badass.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Joey Badass and full five four.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
You have an incredible body of work. Are you going
to be doing any like shows? And I mean, I
know you did Coachella like, wasn't was it twenty twenty
four year? Coachella was? Yeah? Yeah? Or is it this year? Yeah?
Last year?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
What?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Any any other America?
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Yesterday? Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
But it's more coming up, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, there it is. We'll look go support the album
A which appreciate you pulling up you so much. Fire
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Speaker 2 (41:10):
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Thank you. Uh, nice to meet you too. How long
have you been in the US on this trip?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Sue days?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
A couple of days promoting the new album?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yes, I was. I did want to stream?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Who stream? Did you do?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Black Boy?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh? Nice? Did you guys make a song?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
It was like eating ohok bank, the mook bang thing, eating,
like teaching him how to eat sushi.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
How do you did he not know how to eat sushi?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
There's a lot of science to it because he was
like pouring soy sauce on top of sushi.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I said, don't pour.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
You're supposed to dip. Yeah, like just a little. And
there's certain soy sauce or certain sushi you're not supposed
to You're supposed to do ponzu.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Or nothing, so you know.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
So, yeah, I love sushi. I was just in Japan
and it was it was my favorite food trip of
all time. I ate so much. It was like even
like the cheaper places where the conveyor belts yep, where
you just order and then it just shoots out and
you're like, the food isn't better than any sushi had
in America. And then we went to like the really
nice places and it was just so good. You guys
are I would say Japanese food and Mexican food the
(02:25):
best food, yep, for sure. So you had fun Like
the muckbang? Is that where like people eat a bunch
of shit at once?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yeah? I think so. It's a Korean word that.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I just think of the like girls on like TikTok
that like bite into like crazy shit and it's like,
oh but yeah, nonetheless, But yeah, how did you you?
You know, so many American hip hop fans have been
wanting The Riza to produce a whole album. How were
(02:55):
you able to make that happen?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It was at first he wanted to come to Japan
for filming projects, okay, and he needed somebody to guide through,
you know, the community and show him places. And so
I got in touch with them and we started talking
and he was like he found out that I'm from Okinawa,
(03:23):
which is the birthplace of karate, like mister Miyagi.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
That's where it's Oh, I mean you have the wax
on wax off song.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yes, yes, I do karate too, you do karate? Nice?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Are you? Like what belt? Are you?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Black? First degree black belt?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Let's be clear, she came with no security because she
does not need it.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
No, I'm just playing. But yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And also I was married to American.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Who he was like a five percent right obviously is
very much like a part of the you know, the nation. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And so when we were started, like when we started talking,
he was like, you know your like lessons, you got
knowledge yourself. I said, yes, please, you know the god
you know who passed away, you know, taught me all
of these lessons. And and so he was like.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
All right, you're different right where you been at.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
On the other side of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Like, you know, I've been holding on to this knowledge
and and like living my life accordingly and making my
you know, achievements in life.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
He was like, all right, this is something that we
have to tell the world.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
You have a very unique story for sure. Yeah. So
he was just like, because musically, is it intimidating.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Too, because there, you know, it was intimidated at first,
but then I was like, you know, I have to
get through it. And I understand why people wouldn't like
go through with it, like because it's a it's a.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
It's like a training process.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It's really it's really like thirty six chambers of showerling crazy.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
He finished with one chamber next.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
And it's not easy because he will he's he's just
the abbot, he's a master.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, he's.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
To work with me.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
He don't have you know, he made all of the
all of the treatments in his life already. So it
was just me like just sticking with the master, right,
and I just I just you know, follow through with it.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
But many times I just almost quit.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Really what was it about?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Like he would never say beats, you have to go
get it.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, it feels like he's the kind of guy that
like you're not going to get an email with just
like a drop box folder of beats to go through.
It's like, no, you have to, You've got to go.
You have to make it happen. Like the he's not
even doing Wu Tang members albums, so.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Wherever he's at, yeah, you gotta go see him, right,
And he won't even tell you to come see me.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
You just gotta you, just gotta you, just gotta go, and.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Like call him like peace, I'm here right and then
he'll let he'll he'll open the gate.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Where all did you have to go?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
We met in La.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Of course, yeah, of course in New York. Yeah, so
what was the like, how long I guess did it
take to complete the album? From three years? Three years?
So you've been working on so while you're putting out
other music, you have this RISD project that you're working on.
In the cut, Yeah, that's incredible.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
And also.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It took a minute because it was like, you know,
all the record companies and like labels that was telling
me not to do it.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Really, Yeah, for this is such an accomplishment.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I know, it's the most honorable thing I've done in
my life. It was an honor to work with him,
and it was but before I started working with them,
when we decided to work on album, when he said like,
y'all want to produce your whole album? I was like
so excited, But then I started talking to everybody. They
(07:41):
were like, I don't think it's a good idea. I
don't think you could go follow through with it. I
don't think this is like like urgent sound.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Right, because I feel like, you know, what I do
feel like is like I noticed a lot of Japanese
rappers will try to chase like whatever is like hot
in America at the moment, and sometimes it feels like
a little inorganic. So like when I listen to your album,
I was like, yo, this ship is like, first of all,
a whole album produced by the Reds. As a Wu
Tang fan, this is a big deal. We don't get
(08:10):
we don't get that. Yeah, but I also just feel
like it was like executed just wonderfully.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
So thank you so much, thank you so much. Yeah,
I just didn't want to just do it and put
it out. We went through it so many times, many beats.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And also the features dope features on the.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Appare crazy, Yeah you got and these are like the
real friendship.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Well, I know you're on Ferg's album. Yeah, we talked
about that. He told me you were on his album.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yes, man, Ferg is like really brothers and sister.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
He wanted to be like next Nigo and for Real's great.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah yeah, and he's on two songs in your album,
right yeah, yeah, ye shot to Ferg. Yes, Yeah, were
you at the Forest Festival out there when he performed,
I was, yeah, it was a fun time. That ship
was kind of crazy. It was crazyhout yeah, shout out
to those guys. Did you like what how did you
(09:11):
initially discover like Wu Tang was like, like, how did
you get up on the Wu Tang? Like as a fan?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Like my husband, your.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Husband or not your acean, your late husband, sorry because
obviously he was like he's from New York for then,
so he got did he put you up on all
the like boom back East Coast rap shit, all of
the all.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Of the guys like Bernubians or righteous teachers and like
big Daddy.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
King, oh ship, so he puts you.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
On and MF doom, MF doom.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Hell Yeah. Do you feel like because I feel like
that you have like a unique perspective where you're obviously
influenced by what you're influenced by, but you also you
can't help but be influenced by the real dope rap shit,
you know what I mean? Like, I feel like that
makes you pretty unique? Is there is Do you feel
like there's like a above like tell because I feel
like a lot of Americans don't understand how crazy the
(10:08):
music scene is in Japan, and I I can speak
from like the perspective of like we don't really have
record stores like that, but if you go to Japan,
like there's a seven story tower records. Yes, there's an
entire jpop floor. Yeah you know what I mean. Like
it's like its own music industries.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Stay bop runs on physicals, like you actually anyone's buying
buying physical CDs, cassette, tis records, the.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Vinyl record.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah. You guys like still sell stuff out here. It's
like everyone's worried about Spotify numbers, and it's like, why
don't y'all try to sell with something. Do you feel
like that's like a big part of your kind of
like your uh, you know, your infrastructure as an artist,
making sure like hey I have this cold following or
this huge following in my country, I'm gonna make sure
(11:06):
when we drop we give them something to buy.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yep, yeah definitely, And they already are is asking me
like I get mad, damn, like when this is coming
out as a record, vinyls, we need it, we need
it coming out percent.
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I do feel like there's a bit of like a
rent in America in terms of like where you're from.
Okinawa is obviously it's a part of Japan, but it
(13:07):
wasn't always a part of Japan. And I know you're
very proud of your heritage. Can you kind of give
us some.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, Okay, Now, we used to be a kingdom and
then we had like Japan came to take over and
became part of Japan. But after World War Two Japan
gave okay now to America.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, for like thirty years or something that.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Yeah, yeah, the forties to the seventies.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And so that's where our bases are over there, right, yeah, yeah, all.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Of the bases is in Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Now, so my parents' era was America and my era
we still have like heavy concentration on the US military
and heavy heavy influence.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
By Americans, and.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
We as a child, we look up to all of that, right,
you know what I mean? And always like the festival.
They're doing festivals, big PiZZ of big ice cream, the music,
big personality.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
You guys are eating hot dogs and pizzage, French fries and.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Minds is the blue zone area?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Do you know? That blue zone is the area in
the on the planet where people live. Average people lived
two hundred over a hundred for everybody. There's like my
grandmother was one hundred and two, my grandfather was one
hundred and four. Past Why do you think that is
the diet before American game right before you.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Guys got implemented with French fries and hot dogs, not.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Anymore, I guess, But was the diet because it was
the seaweed.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Seaweed. That's the key, is the seaweed.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I think seaweed and the fact that we eat everything.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
And a nice balance. We do eat meat and right,
but everything is in the Golden balance.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I do feel like because we are in like the
obesity capital of the world. You see that, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Was just at the restaurant over there, like down the streets, sizes,
the portions.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Yeah, it's just crazy. And then it's like, but it's
also like when you go to like Asia, anywhere in Asia,
like Japan specifically, the food just tastes so clean. Yeah,
like there's like no preservatives like our shit. Like if
you leave a McDonald's burger out in America, it'll look
the same after two years if you just left a yeah,
because it's blessing.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And then McDonald's in Japan or like Thailand tastes so good.
It's like tastes the same, but it feels like, yeah,
it doesn't sit on you as heavy. How do you
feel like the because I do feel like it is
always an uphill battle to be an artist, not even
necessary specifically Japan, but just anywhere that isn't the US
(16:04):
or Canada. Canada's broken through because a drink. But what
is that uphill battle like trying to get acceptance in
the States, And is it something you even care about?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Like, yeah, I do care, and I do express this
concern of being judged because I'm an Asian woman that
my artistry is not worth checking right or.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
And people will.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Be like, yeah, you know, for the dumbest reason, people
do judge you and they're not gonna take you seriously.
But you just got to show up and talk to people.
And all of the people that you personally met and
talked to whore put in the notes like there's a
real one, right you gotta you know, I've been traveling,
(16:53):
so all of the record label was telling me no,
so we went independent.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
So right now this album's independent. Yes, Wow, that's big. Yes, Yes,
So I've.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Been you know, because I do. I know a little
bit of karate. I'll just be moving by myself.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Well, if you're a black, you're a black. I don't
know if you know a little bit. It sounds like,
you know a lot of a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I travel about myself and like you know, knock on
people's door life.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
So you move around mostly solo. Yeah, Like, at what
age did you pick up the karate thing? Was that
like early early in life.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Or yeah, in junior high school so probably like thirteen, Wow,
well thirteen.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Did you like go to tournaments and all that.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
One time. My my style, let's called matchibios.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
You do wasn't really big on like fighting, but the
kata okay, the actual battles okay was not really our thing,
but like really.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Expertise and you know, kata is like the movement.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah I know, yeah, yeh yeah, yea, yeah yeah yeah
yeah that's dope. Yeah, So I feel like, yeah, you
that's why it's so dope that you've got to work
with the Rizz of Theriz is like and I took
him too, and he's also like executive produced like dope
martial arts movies. Like I went to the kill Bill
restaurant by the way, what's that place called in Tokyo?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yeah, good place.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yes, the food did not stop coming for you. Can
you kind of which feature on this album were you
most excited to get done? Obviously for your friends, so
that was easy you guys. But you got some dope
features on this album. What was one that you were like, yo,
this one came over the finish line, This is like,
I'm excited for this one.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Well, West Side Gun he.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Was out in Tokyo recently, shout to Madame Moves that's there.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
We called him over there.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
To Madam Moose to do the shows okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
At the Old East, So I opened for him.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, just because I wanted to do a track with him.
We make this whole scheme of like, Okay, if we
call him to do a show, he's going to be
here hanging out with me, so we can do a track.
And he agreed and he came, and but the whole
time he was there, you know, he was busy with
(19:24):
a fam or like shopping, and they didn't have time.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
To do a song with me.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
But I already let him listen to to what I've
been working on.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
He was like, it's dope.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
I feel like once you say, hey, I have a
Riza beat for.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You that we already did, already did did the beat,
it was like, Yo, it's dope.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Riza did his thing, you did his thing, you did
your thing, and it's it's easy. I got it. But
then it didn't come for a long time. One day,
it was like three days before the.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Submission date, and it came in.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I get I get an email from him at length.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Wow, so it's right right, It was right at the
finish line, beautiful verse.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah.
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involved are you when it comes to just like very
just yeah, because they are.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I would make Yeah, but my producer, like my
directors that I use, is like definitely friends and like
you talk about we talk about it for a long
time before we even shoot it. It will go in
and like do a research with the books and like
the history on whatever we want to you know, express
(21:50):
in the video, and then he would just execute it beautifully.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, Like the wax and wax Ow video is pretty crazy. Yeah,
you executed that. That shot was any of the shot here?
No over there?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yes, we call like individually, we call him. We flew
them over there.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
It's a samurai loope and he traveled.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
He's the one who travels everywhere. So Loo he's not
scared of ship.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Well yeah he I think I think he's a badass.
I think he is.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I've seen him, seen him do it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah. And he's a teacher.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
He's a teacher.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, he does a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys
and everything.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
No, Ferg brought it like he made it. It's a
leather ge mm hmmm. It's like it's not you like
it's he.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Made it Taylor. He got it Taylor somewhere in New
York and he brought it.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
How crazy? Because do you deal with Because out here
I feel like your guys is culture is so respectful
and even like the fans are super respectful. I feel
like out here our fans are kind of crazy, like
they just be jumping out d M and motherfuckers. Like
it gets it gets weird. Like I was walking around
Tokyo with Vingo from Bad Hop and I saw like
(23:07):
people freaking out, but they were freaking out respectfully. Yeah, Like,
have you ever had any crazy experiences with like any
wild fans out there?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I have some stalkers stalkers Yeah, wow, Like when you
say stalkers, like how are they stalking you?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
They would send me email, I mean males.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Like like to you where you live?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
To where to my parents' house? Is that he thought
I was living there? And he will send me.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
So should I because he like what did he send?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
You?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Send me his like hair and things like that, and
like he or he will tell me that you know,
he is so glad that he's married to.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Me, and and he never that's that's wild.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
And then and then and then he came to one
of my shows and I didn't even know.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Oh he came to my shows.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I didn't know his face, right, you just know he
sent you mail. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And then I was doing tours, yeah, and this on
a tour.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
One of the tours, the security was not like it
was like weak. And then you know a lot of
people it was just like friends, friends, friends, and he
had like crazy fashion and like I didn't know. I
thought it was somebody's friends, but he was just right
there and he started talking crazy to my friend, my
(24:37):
rapper friend. So everybody didn't like he started. They started
thinking like who is this guy? And the security came
and talked to him. Nobody knew ab knew about him,
and and they took him out and they told me
about it later.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
They were like, that's the dude, right.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
And then at the same time, my mom received another
male and then she always sent me the picture of
these males and one of the one of the papers
had his.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Face picture.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Oh, so then you were like, I remember that guy.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
So I don't know their face, right, I don't know
his face.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
But I was just talking to my friend about on
some other ship I have a stalker, like and then
he just sent me a picture of his face and
I show it to my friend. They were like, that's
the guy that was their actual tar.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Oh hell no.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
They gave me chills.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
So what happened? And then, guys, what happened next?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
He came to my parents' house.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
This is crazy. It sounds like a horror movie about that.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
He came to my parents.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
He came to my parents' house after after he got
after he got arrested in Okinawa. He was he was
like sending me mails from other places in Japan, but
then he got into to Okinawa and he got arrested
right away.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
I don't know why, but.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
The police called called me because he was speaking of
my name. So the police found out my contact information
and contact and like do you know this guy? He's
claiming that he's your husband? What I don't know him
(26:30):
and I don't know, Like why is why is he arrested?
Speaker 3 (26:34):
That's fucking crazy?
Speaker 4 (26:35):
But after he broke, after he got out of the jail,
he came right to my house so the police let
him go. Was this recently, m like last year?
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Oh? Ship? So like, are you do you have a
do you guys have restraining orders?
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Out there?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Like out here for him, for him we do, so
he's not like if he comes near you, he's going
to jail. Yeah that's wild. You may have to get
some fucking karate on that dude. Yeah, that ship is wild. Yeah. Yo,
I went to this place while I was in Tokyo.
I ended up going to like not by choice, by
(27:14):
the way, I got dragged to like this bar, right,
but I think it's like y'all call him hostess bars.
So I'm staying in Shinjuku, the Godzilla Hotel, and like
all around the hotel there's just like buildings with like
anime looking chicks on the on the on the building,
(27:35):
or like dudes who look like chicks kind of with
the makeups. Yeah, And I'm like, what the hell is
going on here? And then we ended up going to
somewhere in like Shabu, Yeah, and we going to this
bar to go meet some dude and it's like a
bunch of Japanese businessmen in there with girls and I'm like,
where the fuck. Shout out to my guy Taka. He
(27:57):
brought me down.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
But it was just it.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
There's like these I guess there is a strip club
in Japan, but there's mostly these like I guess they're
hosts of.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
Hostess host club or hostess club, but.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
There's bars club like women will go and hang out
with these the buildings they kind of look like from
like boy bands.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, like, yeah, it's kind of crazy. It's like its
own thing. I've never seen that before.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, it's a weird culture. It was just a weird culture,
but it has it's a multi multi like a billion
market in Japan. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Like my boy was like, he's like, you don't understand.
Like he's like like these dudes are like kind of
like a thing. He's like, there's like girls who like
travel to like hang out with them at this bar
to talk them. And it looked like chicks kind of Yeah,
they got makeup.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
It's hipop champagne for them, yeah and everything. I love
going there. It's fun. It's funny.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I had an interesting time where we were drinking and
like we met with some dude and I was just
like I just like people watching, like, yeah, this is different.
I've ever seen this before. Do you live still in
Okinawa or you in Tokyo. You're in Tokyo, Okay. Yeah,
it's one of the greatest places in the world. The
best shopping ever. Yeah, oh my god. I went to
(29:15):
the Babe Store and I almost fucking I was like,
this is this is this is a problem. I'd go,
what's that big store with all the stories like that?
They're everywhere, the stories. It's like the story you could
buy anything? You could buy anything.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
There was it called oh donkey.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
No, It's like you know what the don't yeah donkey yeah,
donkey yeah, Joe. I'd go in there and bought me
a fucking suitcase because I bought so much ship.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, that's what they do.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
That store is so crazy because you could buy like anything.
I mean I turned a corner and there was a
sex toy file and almost like you what? And then
like seven feet away they have like a bunch of
us Louis Vaiton person right, and I'm like this, this
is interesting. Yeah, that's the that story. Shots of that story.
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The kit Cat selection is oh yeah, much KitKat.
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you shoot them a visit. How did you losing your
husband like kind of affect your artistry? And just like
obviously I can only imagine and like you know, raising
a kid and you know, dealing with all that on
your own. How did that affect you?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
It was like when I when I got married and
like living as a mom and a wife, I already
kind of gave up on like music. I didn't think
it would go anywhere. I was still making demos sometime
going to the studio or always writing, always writing, but
I didn't think it would be it would go anywhere.
(31:31):
So when he passed away, I went in like a
depression for maybe two years, but I kept on writing.
So writing was my therapy at that time.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Like when you guys got married, were you already making
music or yeah I was.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
I was rapping already, and he was always telling me like,
don't quit, like you got to keep going, but I
just didn't think.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
I just couldn't think of it to be a real life.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So after he passed away, I was writing, writing, writing,
and like constant QNA with myself, like do I want
to discontinue my life as well? Or what are we
going to do about Toyomi and my daughter? But then
I realized if I'm going to live because at that time,
(32:23):
I was already living with my parents for two years
not doing anything.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
I just didn't the depression.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Yeah, I just didn't have the energy.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But also I didn't have nothing to lose at that time.
So if I don't have anything to lose and I
want to continue living, what do.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
You really want to do? And I said, I want
to do what I love, which is writing lyrics and
doing music.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
And so.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I decided to give back on my music and I
promised my daughter like and get back on music. And
she was like, do it, And I told her I
would be the best. How did she was like she
was three when he passed away, so she was like
five years old, but she was She was the one
(33:16):
person who helped me through it, like he even my
parents was trying to like get me out of the.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Bed to like you gotta go get in the world.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Yeah, she was like, no, my mom needs to rest.
Don't talk like to my mom.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
She's like, you know, she's sad, but she's just she's
the girl who you know, took the took the biggest loss,
which she was so supportive of me, and she kind
of pushed me to live again. So that kind of
the fact that I was given the second chance was
(33:54):
my motivation to kind.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Of go all out and it's worked out beautifully.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, what has been being independent like so far with
this project because you kind of got to do everything right.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, And I've tried independent, I've tried major label you
know thing, but it's it's way more ah work. But
at the same time, it's much more fun rewarding to rewarding. Yeah,
(34:27):
and you don't have to like check with the people
who don't listen to your music or who don't even
know your your your your music.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Right or your audience or yeah, they don't really know,
but they have to give me.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
They had to give me a goal sign, right, because
you want to do a project, you want to use
that budget.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
But if you don't have to do that, it's maybe
I'm working.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
With a smaller budget. But it's way more like people
are hands on all my all my team.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I probably have like three people on my team.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Wow, you guys getting a lot done with three people.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah, but they know about me left and like inside out.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Yeah, I feel like it's important, like because I feel
like sometimes labels will like just want to work with
you because they see numbers, but they don't understand not
like they don't understand the artists. They're just like, oh this,
there's there's money here, so let's figure it out and
let's try to you know.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
The only thing they tell you, like, do do the
ship that that you did that selled?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Right?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
What if I want to do album?
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So it's like I want to do more invent like
like innovative stuff and do something I have to plant.
C's to the next generation of rappers coming out of
Japan and if I'm chasing numbers, I can't do that.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
The there is like a bubbling scene in Japan, like uh,
you know I mentioned shots the bad Hop Ruhs Vingos
just dropped his album and then like there's like Yellow
Bucks and there's a lot of dope hip hop though
coming out of Japan. Who who do you think is
like kind of like like the up and coming folks
(36:14):
that you know Americans should try to check out.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Ben Jeji from bad Hop is a dope lyricist for.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
People don't know. Bad Hop is like a giant group
of dudes that they sold out the Tokyo Dome like
they're fucking big.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah. They they.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Broken up, Yeah yeah, they finished their still clothing line
and stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
The breathed together.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
They're still together, but like there it was official and
lived their group the Tokyo Dome.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, but that was like the goodbye right, Yeah, it's
a farewell concert, but everybody went solo and they're all good.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, so check check them out. Intown. My crew Okay,
in town, we have a dope rappers and producers.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Is that the name of your crew in town? In town,
it's my It's my group, yo getting yen and I
had I had to somehow get ten thousand dollars worth
of yen in the United States and it's so much
more money than.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
So I'm at the airport and I'm like hitting like
each little like then the guy's like, look, I can
do this much here before I have to call my
boss and then you need to go to another I
was like, all right, thank you, y in town. So
that's how how many artists are on your crew? Eleven
eleven oh damn.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Eleven but five rappers?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Okay, others are DJs and producers right right, right, right right,
but that Lex it's another dope rapper Toji and Mikado
is a young up and coming that I just was
checking out his album and it's really good.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Dope dope dope. Yeah. I feel like, uh, there's there's,
you know, so much potential out there, and like you
guys have, like I said, you guys like Japan has
its own music industry and infrastructure that it's like doesn't
really need America. I mean, obviously if America hops on,
it's great, but it's like it's it's its own thing.
Which Wu Tang member, would you want to do a song?
(38:21):
With now that you got Riz out the way you
did a whole album with him. If if you could
get a future from anybody in Wu Tang who to
be Methamn Meth, that'd be nice. Yeah. What about another
the genius of course?
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Is there another American hip hop producer that you would
like to work on a full project with if you.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Could full project?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, lock in do like ten joints.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
I don't know yet.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I don't like you. An Alchemist might be kind of dope.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Yeah, Alchemists. I've been trying to reach out. I mean
I know I know him.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
He come to Tokyo give me a Freddie Gibs shot,
like a whole little bit short film out there.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yes, so him and Erica, they just did a whole album,
did a tour to the man. Erica was hanging out
or was trying to call out to come out. He
didn't come out, So we were just close to hangout.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
But it'll happen. He's also like the busiest dude in
the world is in twenty twenty five, really busy. I
think he has a clone. He's got like five albums
out at the same time. He's on three tours at once.
He's on tour with DJ for Me right now. He
just got off tour with Freddie Gibbs, him and hit
Boy Drive. Is a lot going on with album. It's
a busy guy, busy guy, busy guy. Who is an
(39:37):
American female rapper that you're a fan of that you'd
like to work with? Megan Megan isn't Glorilla big Glow
met Cardi Docii Doci might be the best live performer
in the world. I just watched her show at Camp
Flognaw Tyler the Creator's Festival, and that ship had me floored.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I want to see.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
It was uptivating. Yeah yeah, but uh, I feel like
Meg taps in with the she she's a She's an
anime big time, but she tapped in with the bro
what's the brother's name from Japan? She did the song
with who make the mag the Studians?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Oh yeah yeah, Megan, Yeah, Megan, Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I think he just moved out here. He's moving out here,
I think, so, Yeah, that's what I heard. Well, listen,
your album is out, thank you, uh okay now and
woman yep, and it is fully produced by the Rizza.
Yes you got loop A Westside Gun Mike Stoke, Joey Badass.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
Joey Badass and full five four.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
You have an incredible body of work. Are you going
to be doing any like shows? And I mean, I
know you did Coachella like, wasn't was it twenty twenty
four year? Coachella was? Yeah? Yeah? Or is it this year? Yeah?
Last year?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
What?
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Any any other America?
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Yesterday? Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
But it's more coming up, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, there it is. We'll look go support the album
A which appreciate you pulling up you so much. Fire
mm hmm
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Mm hm
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