#616 - Snow Tha Product Gets Real About Trump, Mental Health, Marriage, Streaming, Her New Album & More

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Cap podcast man special guests in here. My girl man
shot to Snow the product her new album is out
before I crash out. Congratulations, thank you? Yes, how's everything good? Good? Since?
I mean I feel like we see each other. We
haven't had yes since I was at my old spot
which is a few seconds away, but it's been a while. Yeah, yeah,
which has been a while. Happy to see you always. Yeah,

(01:27):
for sure. This is a massive album. Yeah, it could
like if you this this is like a double discer.
It really is like had you like like, I don't know,
I'm sure you're gonna do it. I don't know if
you're gonna do CDs or not, but I'm sure you're
gonna do all that. Right. Yeah. But I feel like
back in the day when we were growing up, because
we're the same age, we will tell you how you'd
go to the like some people would put out double albums.

(01:48):
This is thirty Records.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
It started out as a mixtape, right, you know, it
wasn't really like. It wasn't a whole like plan. It
was just like put music out. My fans were just like,
you keep saying you will and you never do. And
I feel like we have a lot of that, like
on the West Coast where we get really like in
our head or we want to perfect it, you know
what I'm saying, Like, there's a lot of And to me,
I was just like, you know what, I need to

(02:09):
just go and hopefully I just get in a rhythm
where I can just keep on releasing music. It wasn't
so much about album or roll out or what. It
was just like, bitch, go so you can keep going.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Right, you know? Yeah? I mean I know like too,
You've been like like you had a dope this tour.
Do you have another tour coming up right before I
crashed out tours in February? Yes, March March. But I
feel like you just were on tour earlier this year, right, No,
it was late last year, last year. Yeah, everything's been
blended in. But I was like, I was like, oh, yeah,
I mean obviously you stay on the road, but you've

(02:41):
you've kind of gotten to this point where you're also
like a full time content creator. Yeah, you got the podcast,
the stream. Yeah, is it hard to like because that's
got to be like you have so much fun online. Yeah,
your family's involved. I think that's the key.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
To this is I actually give like I actually like it,
Like I actually want to hang out with my family,
and like we just turn on a camera and it's
all that home and I have the ranch and I
have the chickens and the goats and the animals and
everything is just there. So it's like it's so much
easier to turn on the camera as opposed to if
I was like going somewhere and like clocking in, clocking
out whatever. And also at this point, my life has

(03:19):
just become whoever's in my life I see and work
with every day. If you if I don't, then you're
not in my life.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
You know what I mean? Not for sure? Is it
like because for you? Like it does it take away
from like like you being inspired to make music when
you're you have this other thing going on that is
the content space, Like your stream is very successful, your
podcast is very successful than you, is it? Like like
how do you kind of compartmentalize? Like, Okay, I got

(03:47):
I gotta I gotta get my head in the game,
it's album time, or I gotta, you know, I gotta
put myself in that space where I want to be
creative and work on the on the music, or is
it does it all just kind of float again?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I have ADHD, Yeah, every day is I don't know, Like,
if anything, I think it's having so many little compartmentalized
like parts of my life has helped me actually do
anything right, because what could have happened is I don't
do all those things and then I'm just sitting there
trying to work on music and I can't, and then
I'm I go party, you know what I'm saying, or

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like I go get drunk, or I go to the
hills and party where all the artists want to be
at and whatever. And with this it's more like, Okay,
I don't feel like making music right now, let me
go make a podcast, or like I don't feel like podcasting,
let me go work on some music, or I don't
feel like doing that, let me go work on some merch.
Like everything is there, you know, And I genuinely love
the merch aspect of my shit, like I genuinely love
the podcast. I like streaming, going live and for a

(04:43):
I mean for me going on TikTok and going live
while I'm doing my makeup.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's like I'm gonna do a make up Anywhere're gonna
do it, you might as well. Yeah, engage with your fans. Yeah,
have you seen like new people come to the party
like that weren't necessarily fans of the music or like,
but but they started to become fans of the content,
and then that kind.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Of like them like, yeah, I have I have some
girls that like I'll be like I don't. I don't
love your music, but like, you know, I like watching
you know, your personality school.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, I'm like.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's cool, Like I guess it could be offensive, but
it also isn't because it's like I guess it's cooler
that people could fuck with me as a person, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's like that's dope. Like, yeah, music is subjective, but
what really matter is like if people fuck with you
as like who you are?

Speaker 2 (05:21):
You know, or some people even like the relationship with
my son, like they're just like, I'm I didn't used
to watch you, but now because of your son and
my kids, watch your content with you and your kid,
Like I watch you guys and like that's inspiring. And
I'm like, what at the end of the day, bro,
whatever the whatever it is. I mean, you do a
lot of things, you know, it's like whatever it is,
it's cool. Like as you become a real like adult,
you realize, like, bro, I give you know, I make

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a living doing what I love. I hang out with
my family. It's a blessing every day as long as
we're here.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
You know, how do you Because my wife is a
big fan of you and your son's dynamic. I guess
she she had told me a she was like, yo,
there was something where I guess he stopped streaming, but
he wanted to buy something, so he streamed like long
enough to like get money to buy yes, something, Yes,
And like he's ridiculous. My wife was like explaining to

(06:11):
me and she showed me one of the videos and
it was fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
It's ridiculous because my fans are in on it. So
he'll be like, guys, I'm only here because I'm gonna
make them. I want to make money, and they're like,
all right, I get it, little man, And I'm just like,
don't don't, don't hype him up because this is why.
And it's like, I'm just it's like the constant fight
to not raise a bitch ass dude, which he's not
gonna be if my life depends on this, but like

(06:35):
you know, I always have to be he stresses me out.
But I think half the time he's trolling, Like I
think he knows, no, he's hilarious, he knows he's stressing
me out.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
But like is it Is it because he's got to
have his own little like weird like fans. Yeah, like
is that like weird to deal with as a mom.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, I definitely have gotten approached with like your baby
Drew's mom, and I'm like, yeah, like I am, you know,
like at the end of the day in my son's life,
Like I'm just a mom. So if baby Drew becomes
his own person his own personality, his own anything, like
I'm just his mom, Like I just fall by the wayside,
which is totally fine.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Like that's what it's I think he'd be. I mean,
if he like really goes hard on the YouTube shit,
he could pop, especially with your guys property and all
the cool random like shit he could get into.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Right, Yeah, he's just he'd be what I love what
I love is that he's not married to the likes
or the views, like, so he doesn't care, which is
like it could be a great thing, right, it's like,
all right, great, my kid doesn't care. But it could
also be like a or are you just being lazy?
Like I don't know which which side of it it is,
you know. So it's like I like raising a kid
that doesn't wake up every day, like how many likes

(07:37):
did I get?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
He doesn't do that.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
But at the same time, he doesn't, you know, go
feed the dog.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
So I'm like, what's up with the dog? Go go
do some yardwork, clean dog shit?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, go get the chickens, eggs and shit.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Yesterday I picked up four How many animals in totality?

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Do you have four chickens, five dogs? And like no,
four goats, five dogs, and like fifteen chickens.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
I think we have three roosters. Get the chickens and rooster?
Do they wake you up in the morning? Oh? The
roosters are crackheads.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
They don't even have a time, Like I don't know
what's wrong with them, but they like ten pm they're
going so.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
They don't have like because like most like like I
used to grow like my neighbors were Mexican, I had
chicken so we they would wake us up every morning
at the same time. Right, yeah, I get that. Yours
are like they're just like ten pm cocka doodle do.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, I'm like, what is wrong with you all? They're
just I didn't want roosters. I we thought they were chickens.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
They grow up. Now I have three roosters and I
don't know what to do with them. I don't want them.
But but they're there. They're there, and you guys don't
have to ever buy eggs. Right, well, that's a positive.
That's a good thing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I love the chickens. I love the hens. Laying hens amazing.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
You guys have just for the sake of like, we
got goats, let's go pet them.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
No, they were a gift my eggs bottom for me
for Christmas, which was a gift that keeps on shitting
all over the fucking ranch.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I fuck, I really don't do you pet them? Do
you hang? We hang with them? They're funny. One of
them's names Drake. Do you the goats into the house? No?
They list there's a lady who walks a goat around
like it's a fucking dog.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah, and she has a lot of time on her hands.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah. I mean, like if I feel like, if I
had a goat, I let the goat in a goat.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
If when they were babies, I would have done it.
But at the time I had like I had so much.
I've just always been really busy, which is also why
I don't have horses. Like I've always wanted a horse,
but I don't think I have the time right now.
And like, animals need a lot of love, you know,
and a lot of so I do go out there
and I vibe out with them and I'm trying to
figure out a way for them to be useful.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
But no, yeah, they're just there. They just cost money.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
They're liability even yeah, not even goat yoga or something.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, like you can't even get like there's goat cheese,
goat milk. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
And the thing is I had two, and then they
did it, and then they had three, so now I
have that I have five.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
But then one so you wait, so you wait, wait,
you had two, they fucked had babies. You have their babies, yes,
but you lost the fifth one to a coyote. Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
While I was on tour, my mom called me and
was just like, there has been a murder, and I
was like, oh my god, she's crazy more yeah, which
is crazy because when my girl, like my girl first
invited me to uh, we're barely dating. We weren't in
a relationship yet and we're barely dating, and I was
supposed to go to her like corporate party or something,
and I kind of didn't really want to go. But
then also, like, the goats were born. So then I

(10:34):
call her and I'm like, hey, I'm not gonna be
able to make it like I just had baby goats
be born, and I think she didn't buy the story.
So I sent her the picture and I'm like, there's
literally baby goats that I didn't even know my goat
was pregnant. First of all, they're related, so that's crazy,
And now I have anat goats.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
They're weird.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Their fucking father uncle is strange. I just the farm
life is like it's cute until.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
It's not, and you're just like, do you have dogs
that stay in the house and dogs that don't come
in the house. I have dog. All my dogs stay
in the house.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
People tell me to buy dogs like ranch dogs, but
then I feel bad because it's like that's gonna be
like a whole Like I would feel terrible, right like
you're you go over there and you go like.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Like you guys, are there house dogs and there's outside dogs? Yeah? No, no,
what kind of are they? Big dogs? Are they small?
Two peoples?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
A cocker Spaniel Achias like little and then her dog
whatever that is?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Whatever that is? So what is it? Every everything? He's
in everything based.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, he's a crazy man.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
His name is Sushi, So out to Sushi. Yeah, you
and your girl are married now are engaged married, officially married? Yeah,
this is a this is a big step.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah yeah, well we yeah, we announced our engagement, but
we we had already gotten married because like to me,
I just did I wanted stuff that isn't for everybody else,
you know, like I wanted to be able to have
my own like private moments and enjoy them. And it
was great, it was beautiful, and and now we're gonna
have the wedding wedding you know, which I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Shoot, so you guys are are still going to do
like a big wedding that's like traditional everybody comes yeah,
oh yeah, you know, are you gonna do it at
your house. I don't know. That's what we're barely talking about.
Just do it at your house. The venue suck, and
then they give you like a list of vendors you
could use, and and that shit's hell expensive, Like, yeah,
you did that? Oh yeah, and what happened? Tell me

(12:24):
about it? This is expensive. First of all, I had
to make payments on my wedding. Oh shoot, yeah, I
was like they were like, I think it was like
thirty grand, which is a cheap wedding, by the way,
cheap wedding. But at that time, have you hear this?
Hold on, no, you're going to spend like one hundred
thousand dollars on your wedding? Yo. Me in twenty seventeen
was I was making like eighty grand a year at

(12:45):
real ninety two three, not making a lot of money,
So thirty grand was a serious nut. You're doing much
better than that. Your girl's gonna run it up, just
so you know. This is her only wedding. It's gonna
be fucking all the bells and whistles.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
But can't we just spend that hundred grand on the
house on an investment, investment in the rams, make it
look beautiful.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
You could just go buy a rent. You could go
buy a fucking fourplex in Palmdale. Yeah, goddamn. Anyway, with
that being said, uh, investment, investment opportunities here, but yeah,
like a lot of these venues they will give you,
Like like, if you want catering, you can only pick
from like a list of caterers that they approved. Why.
It's fucking stupid. It's a it's weird. The wedding ship

(13:25):
is hella strange like that whole industry is very interesting.
But if you have like a lot of property, just
do it at your crib right, just paid wedding planner
and you know, set it up. Put the goats in
the wedding right. Where did you guys get married? I'm
dead at a courthouse?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Like literally it was like on some like random like
little fucking let's just do it now. Because also I
don't know if you saw, but like gay marriage was
like on the chopping block, like they were trying to
put it up on the chopping block.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
So as much as.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
People be like what you talking about bulletins, it's like, bro,
like they're trying to figure out whether or not it's
legal for me to love the person that I love.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Like that's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy because even like I
guess we're in California, so it feels like I guess
California is a lot of the crazier shit that like
is happening, Like we're kind of protected from in a way.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Kind of until we're not though, Like I think that's
what's happening right now, is that we're also like up
in the air.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
It's like, Okay, but if they like when they started
kind of attacking places, wasn't it first coming into California,
Like when.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
They started bringing in like like the ice sh it
is like.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, it's like they went for the big cities. They
weren't going to the fucking red right e feel me
like they came for us.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, it's wild. So I was going to ask you,
I want to get into all, you know, all the
politics stuff. But you had a moment at the Don't
Fall In Love festival. Yeah that went viral where you
kind of called out all the Trump people backstage everybody.
But uh, I mean obviously not everybody is aligned pulled

(15:00):
right now. Now. That's the other thing I'll say this,
like if you you know, I just don't understand people
who still bang the trump shit. Yeah, it's like you
could have been like, damn, we got hold we got
like we are it's more respectable to do yeah, Like
you know what, I was tripping like people who still
like doubled Like, to me, that's just like some gang
shit or some cult shit. It's like, what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's not wanting to give up the there's there's there's
a bunch of different ways you could put it.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
There's obviously the people who have been on the correct
side of history, which you know, we were, Okay, we
also have to like calm down and be like, okay,
so what do we do now? Right, because it already happens,
So what do we do? What I don't like is
the people that are one acting like they didn't do
it right. So there's a lot of people that like,
we're hanging out with trump Pees, being trumpees behind the
scenes or even in front of the scenes doing it

(15:46):
and now they're just like scrubbing the internet from it
and they're just like nope, like or trying to become
the voice of the immigrants. Now we're trying to become
the trying to like grift off it.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
You know what I'm saying, yeah, I just think like
there's I think people are so like worried about just
like coming out and being like I was wrong. Yeah
I was. I felt like this was the best move,
and I obviously was wrong. Hidezeins twenty twenty. It is
what it is.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
You want to know why, because the people that were
telling those type of guys that were doing that not
to do that were like women, their mothers, their sisters,
their girls, and a lot of these dudes that have
that mentality don't want to listen.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
They don't want and then now they want to they
don't want to hear it from all those people like
I fucking told you, Yeah, they feel like they gotta
dig in even more.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah you gotta take that out and just be like, yo,
yeah I was wrong. I do you know how much
it's more like respectable it is to hear somebody be like, yo,
you know what, honestly, I was wrong. I'm going to
do more research next time. I'm gonna, you know, if
there there's a teachable moment that okay, cool, But all
these motherfuckers lying, pretending or trying to still be on it.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Or grifting. I think the grift is just the biggest
thing I just don't understand like the new shit to
me that it's wild. It's like seeing so many people
have billion like billionaire psychopathic billionaires backs like they give
a fuck about them. It's like, yo, you guys like
really are like pro mass deportation, but don't bat an

(17:17):
eye or speak out against the fact that like the
AI industry owns the administration and the AI shit is
literally what's actually replacing everyone's jobs, not fucking the immigrants.
It's fucking artificial intelligence, Like that is what's actually replacing
everyone's jobs. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I was saying that on the the fucking podcast before
this whole shit happened. I was like, look, you're talking
about immigrants, like who's really coming for your job right now?
Who's definitely gonna be AI fucking Sam Altman, and it's
coming for everybody. And then also it's like they're using
this they're they're they're scapegoating immigrants. But now they're saying like, Okay,
well a real idea isn't enough ID, so now you're

(17:54):
gonna have to figure out a way to ID yourself
that isn't the real ID. So here you go, give
us your iris, your fingerprint as you're this, you're that
put us put you in a fucking database. And if
you're not in that database, So isn't this the whole
thing crazy?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
So it's like we're cooked, we are getting ushered into
mass surveillance and yeah, it's spooky shit. And like even
like a lot of the people involved with the Trump administration,
it's not even about I mean he said it. He's like,
why don't we get more immigrants from non shithole countries
or like he I think he mentioned like Denmark, and
I'm like, it's this. I don't know if you know,

(18:28):
Stephen Miller is the fucking devil in the flesh. That motherfucker.
He might be Jewish, but he is a white supremacist.
That guy is a psycho. And that is the guy
who's in charge of all of this fucking deportation. He's terrible.
It is. Do you ever feel like because I know,
every once in a while, like I gotta like unplug
from just the new cycle because it can be mentally

(18:50):
taxing for you. Obviously, you're a gay woman, you're a Latina.
You're also very your public figure who is you know,
very much like outwardly expressed your discontent with what's going on?
Do you ever have to like just take a step back,
like unplugged a little so it doesn't get to YouTube.
Does it ever mentally get to you, like what's going

(19:11):
on in the world? Yeah? I cry a lot.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
This project called Before I Crash Out was my Before
I crash Out outlet, so instead of I really was
questioning everything and just being like, bro, what the fuck
is life?

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Like this is crazy?

Speaker 2 (19:28):
So I started this project and it became awesome to
have something to put all my energy into. But I'm
not gonna lie just this weekend because you were asking me,
how did I do this weekend? I'm like, well, once
the project dropped, I had to sit there with the
reality that like that's it, Like I don't have the
project to do anymore.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Right, Like that was something for you to work on
stay busy, Like yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
So I just started crying because I was just like, well,
that's it, Like you know, I mean, obviously I can
work on more music, and I can work on content
or whatever, but I'm just like, at the beginning of
its inception, I was like, at least all have this,
and then now I'm just like Okay, So.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
I don't know, man, I feel.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Just as a woman, just as a person, as an adult,
as someone who's growing up, who has the kids and
the wife and just you know who has in my life. Bro,
Even if we weren't in this administration, that's still a
lot to take in, you know, like as a person, Like,
you know, we feel like we was just kids not
that long ago, and all of a sudden we're here
now where our parents were, and we're thinking like, damn,

(20:28):
is this how they felt? And like what is that?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
And then between their feel like I'm a kid, it's crazy,
Like I still feel like sometimes I'm like, damn, I'm
fucking I'm thirty eight years old, Like I am a
grown ass. Yeah. You look around and you're like, bro,
this is it? Like this was it? Like when we
were little.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
We were like thinking, we're like promised this like and
it's like and even for me, for example, right like
my job is amazing, I'm a rapper, I do shows,
I got fans, I got I got everything, And still
you look around and be like this is it, you know,
like this is this is what you know? So I
can't even imagine like everybody must be feeling it, which
is why now more than ever, just on a human level, Like,

(21:08):
I really just want to connect with people because bro,
this reality just be kind of fucking with me, like
it's fucked. Yeah, So I don't know, I'm gonna throw
more parties, I'm gonna hang out with more people. I'm
gonna go to the park, Like That's why my album
covers like Me on the Grass. I'm like, bro, like
touch grass ground yourself? Have you know, enjoy company conversations,
maybe even things that aren't political. I know people think

(21:29):
that everywhere I go I want to talk about politics,
but I don't.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
I think people just think that's what I want to
talk about.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
So everybody talks about it, but we talk about anything
except for aliens because I hate talking about aliens.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
It's a pointless alien.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Really, what what can you tell me that it's for
sure about aliens?

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I just said they're there, that's all I think. I mean,
come on, like, I don't know, they're fucking they gotta be.
There's fucking hieroglyphics that were found that are like nine
hundred thousand years old that have aliens in them. Yeah,
so what the fuck? How they build the fucking pyramids? Yeah?
Fucking aliens. Okay, can I tell you this is something

(22:03):
I've I've shared this before. No white people shit, well
kind of, I mean, I guess, Okay, so my mom hurt. Well,
I guess my aunt my mom's aunt, so whatever that
makes her to me, my mom's aunt is my aunt.
I guess. She married a guy named Doc who was
he worked. He was an engineer at NASA and he
was like one of the first like one hundred employees

(22:24):
at NASA or some shit. So my mom went back east.
They live in Maryland, so she went back east to
visit them in like ninety eight, ninety nine some shit,
I don't know. And she asked him at dinner if
there were aliens, and he told my mom that he's
not allowed to answer that, but what he can say
is that if most people knew what was really in
the ocean, people couldn't handle it and they'd killed themselves.

(22:49):
I can understand that. And I'm just thinking they're coming.
It's it's not up there, it's down there.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah. The ocean is so like we don't even know
what the fuck's out there. Shit is like most of
the world unexplored.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
I know, but it's like we're not going to I
don't know, I don't know. I'm just like, I'm just
I just like I think when we talk about aliens,
it's just like we're not gonna do shit.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Do you know what's crazy? No, there's been like, you know,
congressional hearings about aliens and like government employees saying that
they're pretty much real. Yeah, but it's just like we
live in such a crazy time that it doesn't even
penetrate the news cycle for real, Like no one gives
a fuck. We've been so conditioned by all these movies
in Hollywood to be like, yeah, of course there's aliens.
We were watching them fucking on TV. We watched Independence

(23:35):
Day and all this shit. So when they really do come,
which I think will happen before we both die, yeah,
I think soon we're gonna know.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, they need to do something, and they need to
fix a lot of these things. There's potholes, there's a
lot of technology.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
We drop a nuke before someone decides they want to
nuke somebody. The aliens are gonna come down and be like, hey, hey, hey.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Well, in order to have a new world order and
in order for everybody to be under one government, they're
gonna have to say something there against all of us.
Let's all listen to this one fucking group of people
right here. That's what's gonna happen.

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I feel like, were you like nervous at all about

(25:56):
coming forward and doing like more of a political record
and like how your fans are it? No, I mean
I feel like because you've always been not spoken to
your interviews and ship and.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Like I've always been doing ever since the last time
that this dude was running. I had songs, I had
this pian that I was talking about.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Remember you had the legalized my mom fucking ship.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, it was a long like what was that like
a decade ago? That was like back then, it was
like against like it was against the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
What I don't like like back then though, there wasn't
as many people in the Latin community, because that's damn
near A big reason why he did win was a
lot of Latins did vote for him, which is you.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Know, yeah, because how do I explain this. I mean,
you had a big moment here. You had mc magic
right here.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
He did say all that.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Right here and explain to you why he's a Trump supporter,
and then proceeded to back it up with facts that
were Democrats that did that.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
So it's like you, you, you voted for this.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Guy based on getting food stamps and stuff, which were
not what he stands for. It's actually the opposite. And
then you sat here and said that and a lot
of people back that up. A lot of people didn't,
and a lot of people didn't. The thing is that
it's polarizing, but at the end of the day, at
least it's a conversation and you're right back when I
was first talking about it. Not that many fucking people

(27:17):
gave a fuck, And that's the problem. The problem is
I've always came off as like the angry girl are like,
I never blew up, I never did anything because because
snow's confrontational and it's like, well, I've been sitting here
telling you all about this shit for like how long,
and y'all don't give a fuck. It's like what me
and a mortal technique telling you motherfuckers?

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Like, who the fuck out? I say this shit all
the time. I always say this, like we need more
fucking immortal technique energy in the fucking world. Like.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
The problem is if I was a man, like if
I was, if I was the man y'all are looking for,
I would literally be getting my fucking flowers. But I'm
a woman, so people don't want to hear from a woman.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I feel like I feel like, I feel like you've
been getting your flowers a lot. I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I feel like if I was a man, I would
absolutely and by the way, fuck my flowers.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
That's not about that it's about. I just wish that.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
It was more normalized to hear a woman talk and
be like, you know what, she kind of hate that,
Like why is that so difficult? Like I feel like
guys are like I don't want to hear that girl.
I want a man in my ear to tell me
what to do. It's like you like, guys, you tell me.
Why are guys so like gangy about that? It's so like,
fuck these bitches. It's all about my boys.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
And I just want to hang out with I think
like when I think of like, uh, most men, the
perspective I hear is it's not relatable, yeah for them
here to hear a message from a girl. But I'm
not saying that I'm in that. Yeah, but I got
homie story like that. Who like if I'm like fucking

(28:43):
listening to like Glow really in the car some shit
like I turn the sh out, I'm like this is
Max or like or like yourself or you know, Rhap
City is an incredible MC too. But I do feel
like like it's it's just like I.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
Think hearing a Latina woman talk is not going to
be the same because you you you know what I'm
saying like I feel like, I don't know, it would
be different if if guys are like, oh, I don't
like you and girls talk about the pussy. But like
I'm telling you some like real shit.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
RHAPSO is like always kind of. I feel like you
guys are high level mcs, but I do feel like
a lot of dudes, for whatever reason, have like a
sexist taste of hip. It's weird thing though, yeah, because
I I literally it was so funny.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
I screenshot this this morning because I was like scrolling
or whatever, and then I saw some posts of like
Travis Scott and some some dude who's like the only
man I would go gay for, And then there was
like three comments it was Travis and this, then that lady,
that one, that one lady that everybody says it's a witch,
and literally it's like why is she there? Why is
he there with her?

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Right? And it's all.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
So there's like there's like like all the dudes. Yeah,
the there's all these dudes saying why is she there?

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Why is she there?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Only dude I would go gay for. I was at
I was in in Vegas and it was like future
passed by and like literally it was packed or whatever,
and then there's just this dude like a love you twin,
I love you twin to him, like.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Right, and I'm just man groupies are wild. The man groupies.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Literally, I just have my release party and like the
dudes were on the couch like there was pretty girls
right there. The dudes were on the couch like this,
and I literally had to get on the mic and
be like all the men, get out of my VIP section,
get down and let the girls shake their ass Like I.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Was just like, what is happening? Dudes.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Dudes are very and I'm sure your comments are gonna
go crazy because I know there's.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
A lot of because there are so many like the
male groupie, uh, epidemics, epidemic is spreading. It's it's cringey. Yeah.
The craziest sh it is like where you'll be like,
because I have a nightclub in Scotts there that I'm
a part owner of. Whenever we have an artist there
or some shit, you'll I'll see what my I'll see
motherfuckers go out of their way to try to sneak

(30:49):
into a section if we have like an artist, and
I'll be like, yo, who the fuck are you with? Like, bro,
get the fuck out of here. Like like people will
like put all their pride to the side just to
try to get there.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
It'll be a dude that will be dogging a girl
like shit and.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Holding some yeah bottling ship. Oh my godness, that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
It's like, it's like, Okay, so I have a song
called Painted White. You're not gonna tell me that that
that that song is not relatable. Even a dude came
fucking hear that song and be like yeah, because I said,
I you claim the street smart.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
You don't know you left and right.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
You're a fucking idiot surrounded by the lame as guys.
Twenty dudes up in your section swear that the club
should raise the price. I blame all three pigmy bitches
in your section. Got you hype bottle gone and you're
just chasing all the juice to chase with.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Ice, chasing a juice to chase Well, that's true. That
be them, that is true. So why I want to
ask you you you had a uh, you know, because
I feel like you've had an interesting journey through music
where like you did the major label thing, you kind
of you know, had to kind of just really building

(32:00):
this community, build this fan base on your own, because
I remember when you're on Atlantic. I don't know if
anybody has ever been more mishandled. A lot of people
were mishandled by Atlantic, but you specifically, I want to
know how cool was it and or frustrating was it
when you get the Latin Grammy nomination. There had to

(32:20):
be just the craziest switch up where like motherfuckers had
to like really just like did like did did you
feel people switch up or like start to come to
the party where you were like, oh, well, you know
I've been doing this for I mean that you're an
og you know what I'm saying, Like that, how.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I feel like you would think that certain moments to
live of like make people. But it almost okay, let's
use this whole thing. People voted for Trump. They see
that they're wrong, and they almost want to hold onto
that because they don't want to They don't want.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
To be like, oh I was wrong.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
So it's almost like the more that I do, the
more people are just like nah, nah it like it
really I feel it.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
I see it.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Like there's been times where it's like people they just
don't want I don't know I don't know what it is,
and I've had to go to a lot of therapy
to figure out that.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Like, I just can't.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
I can't wait for the moment that this industry sees it, right,
I just can't. You can only do like worry about
who does see it and who does support you. Right,
I'll tell you the truth. This is pre pre therapy.
I signed to Atlantic to get the latinos in this
industry to give a fuck about me. I wouldn't have
gone there. I already had my I had recorded my

(33:36):
whole first project. I had like drunk Love, the song
that got me signed, Holy shit, the song that got
me signed.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I had already.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Recorded all that on my own with the same guy
that I just made this fucking with Poomba for me.
So I was like, my brother was doing the videos,
my cousin's doing the merch, Poomba's doing my beats. It's
the same fucking people. And that was pre Atlantic.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
That was pre.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Street Signs, which was the label that came to me
and tried to sign me right before. They had me
for like three months and then I got signed because
I was so fucking that deal. So had it not
been for like my own people fucking me over with
that deal that never got never paid me for the
last twenty second years.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Fucking god, damn.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
I don't even know twelve eleven because I feel like
Atlanta was likeeen sixteen fourteen.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
No, it was like it was like Atlantic, who you
ended up with? Atlantic was fifteen fourteen.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
We're we're extra unking right now, not remembering any other
you got yeah, yeah, yeah, no, but yeah, you feel me.
So it was like, I feel like looking for that
acceptance from people in this industry is what has led
me down the worst paths. So the only times I've
ever actually been happy or for example, got to got

(34:47):
to the Latin Grammy Mountain Nation, got to all of
that was when I just stayed at home, stayed to
flow rap, put the shit out, fuck with my fans,
did you show up?

Speaker 1 (34:57):
That's it?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
You feel me like not even a manager. And this
is no shade to anyone who I've worked with as
a manager, but I do feel like I'm just such
a specific like artists, like being queer, being Latina, being
daughter of immigrants, being Mexican, being bilingual, being from where
I'm from. There's just so many things that it's like, bro,
by the time I argue with you, why I think
we should do this, I should have just done the shit.

(35:18):
So I don't want to disrespect anybody's opinion. I'd rather
just like be by myself and just do it, you know,
and by myself. It doesn't mean by myself, I'm my brother,
I'm my cousin.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
My family.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
It's just more like it's just so specific. And also
it's about being happy. Bro. I think at the end
of the day, everybody just doesn't understand that artists mental
health is like so fucking important that if we if
we're not happy and healthy, nothing moves or it does,
but we're gonna fucking kill ourselves.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
How many artists have not done it?

Speaker 2 (35:48):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (35:49):
You feel like I feel like there was a point
in time whe I feel like you were drinking a lot.
Do you feel like you ever kind of had any
issues with just I was fucking mile, I was depressed.
I was miserable, dude.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
I remember it was around the time, around the time
where like we're like Peep died or rip and like
where a lot of different artists were just kind of like,
you know, either whether it was drugs or it was
street or it was whatever it was, like I did
see it just be bleak. I feel like this shit
is I feel like growing old as a rapper should
be looked at as a as like so much more

(36:19):
of a like great thing to happen, because so much
happens to us that it's like, bro, this shit fucking sucks,
especially being a woman, like it sucks.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I mean, listen, You've been able to create an amazing
life based on your.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Talents, you know what, And mind you, look at what
you said I was drinking. Do I think I had
a problem? I mean, you see the every single fucking
male rapper every time you see them, Papa Champagne drinking
having bitches?

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Who are men who I've been like, hey man, you
are you good? Look at how many years did it
take to finally fake? Look at Didny not? Even like
there's friends of the show who have serious drinking problems
who I've had to be like, hey, yeah, but mind you.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
It's like, for example, when I was drinking, and shit,
it's like I was drinking. I was going through like
all this shit and it's like, at least I didn't
do what I could have done, because I could have
fucked a lot of people that I could have gone
on the internet and said the wildest. I literally just
knew at least how to keep my composure enough to
get on that bus, get to the next show, sell

(37:25):
the fucking tickets, perform my fucking show, go back in
the bus, do it again, like just shut up and
dribble basically, and eventually, thank god, I uh just had to,
you know, face reality and be like, bitch, we can't
keep doing this shit.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
So what inspired you to start going to therapy?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I went to counseling and therapy, Like throughout my life,
I've done it because I've I'm really I'm really neuro diversion,
Like I really do have ADHD, so it's hard to
deal with sometimes, so I've always done it. I think
as an adult, I thought I was over all my
childhood trauma.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
I was just like, yeah, whatever, I already know you
know what I'm saying. It's like, we know what it is.
But it wasn't until this last time that I really
started up that I was like, oh shit, Like, even
though you know what it is and you can point
at it, doesn't mean you are healed from it, you know.
And I think that's the biggest thing. It's always going
to be a work in progress. It's always going to
be constantly, constantly checking on everything and just realizing that it.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Just is what it is.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Man, Sometimes we can't let go. There's been debts in
the family. There's been people that you're not going to
see ever again. There's you know, issues maybe with parents
not accepting you. You know what I'm saying, It's like,
how do you get over not being accepted because you're
gay by the person that's supposed to love you, Like,
there's I can't imagine.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
That's Yeah, that's crazy. So would you suggest like, because
I feel like a lot of people are so hesitant
to like get to the point where they go sit
down because they think it makes them weak or some shit.
But I feel like everybody needs a little bit of
therapy at some point. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Well, anytime you're overcompensating, it's because you do feel weak, right,
Like even me, Like people will be like, oh, I'm
confrontational or I'm talking all this shit, and it's like, yeah, inside,
like sometimes we feel maybe I'm defending immigrants and doing
all that because I feel some people didn't defend me.
So maybe I'm defending people who need to be defended.
Maybe whenever I'm talking and on behalf of like people
who have suffered abuse or whatever. I'm doing it because

(39:22):
like maybe when I was young, I wish somebody would
have defended me, Like same thing with a lot of y'all,
Like maybe there's people that are right now just being
extra tough or whatever, and it's like, you never know,
you might be able to funnel that energy into something
positive and actually be able to help the world. And
I will say it's way more fulfilling to like put
that energy into something positive than it is to just
like go out there and fire or fucking get.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
Drunk, right right, yeah, one hundred percent. I know, like
when you have this moment a few years ago and
you get the nomination for the Grammy, that there had
to have been a lot of major labels or situations
knocking on your door where you tempted it all to
jump back in the matrix.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
I think that's been my biggest thing, is like whenever
I have had those moments, there has been times when
I low key get pulled a little bit back in
the matrix, and then I end up like being mad
at myself because I'd be like, bitch.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
You knew not to give that motherfucker a chance. And
I know for a fact because I could at that time.
I know I was I was working with Empire at
that time, and I know Empire was interested. I know
a lot of people were like, wait, she's independent. At
the time, you didn't have a manager, which you ended
up getting a manager for a little bit, but obviously
your manager list right now. But I just always wonder, like,
I have a manager, I'm my own manager, right you're

(40:38):
managed Snow, managed by Snow.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Period.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
It works, but I do know, like I've had homies
of mine who have a really bad taste in their
mouth for the major label system and then they get
on the other side of it and they have a
moment and then they end up back in the major
label system. And sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't work.
Sometimes it's like, well you should just stay independent. But
like I always wonder like that moment specifically, it's hard,
it's difficult. Here's some of those numbers you're hearing. You're like,

(41:02):
how much is the advance?

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Like, yeah, it's difficult, mostly because you know that this
is a machine, you know, I know that like being
independent means being independent the way I am means bitch,
they are not coming to help you. There's not gonna
be anything, you know. So so it does get tempting
because you're like, dude, I could, I could be on

(41:26):
their team and then they'll help me, you know. But
it's like it just feels that much worse when they don't.
So I'm at this point it's really like a bad relationship.
It's like you could keep giving that relationship that chance
and just it never fucking works out.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
So why do it?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
But I don't know, dude, at this point, I never
even needed that much, like as far as like even
like money or success, Like I think I'm living a
pretty good life. I like where I'm at, like, and
sometimes I struggle with whether that's fear, like whether I'm
scared to go bigger, or if it's also just peace.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah, you know, I think it's I think quality of
life is also like peace of mind because sometimes like
I could always use a bigger house and I always
use nicer things and more money to make it was like, yo,
peace of mind is really the real I think, like
barometer of success, like can you can you do what
you love and make sure everybody around you straight. And
when you go to sleep at night, are you happy?
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, when I wake up, when I wake up in
the morning, like I'm a peaceful morning at the ranch,
or I'm gonna be like stressed out overthinking, oh my god,
did we get this?

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Did we get that? My bottom line.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Isn't huge, So I could, you know, kind of do
what I need to do as opposed to when you
all the label, all that money they give you that
big as advanced.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
And that's it, and that's it. Now you got to
hit the road. Yeah, you gotta. Well, I mean you
have you have obviously the ability to monetize so much,
you know, outside of just like the streams, because so
many artists the only thing they can do is get
an advance because they don't have fans. Yeah, and I don't.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
I'm not focusing so much on streams, Like even though
I'm streaming, well, I'm not focusing on streams right now.
Like I'm really I went directed consumer. I went you know, like,
pay what you can or pay what you want on
the album, get the physical copy, go see me on tour,
Buy real tickets Real National Tour from you know, thirty
something cities or whatever. It's like that's my focus and

(43:14):
I'm still streaming better than some of the Every time
they make these fucking these lists of like you know,
Mexican American artists or Mexican American rappers, is like they
they tend to leave me out, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Like, nothing happen a lot. I've noticed like when like
I'm like some of the some of the fool blogs
like Shouts of Food Community and those guys, like when
they do their list Snow's always like kind of kind
of low.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
I'm like, I literally be asking myself. I'm like, are
they going based off ticket sales per year? Are they
going based off monthly listeners on Spotify? Are we going
based off like streams?

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Like? What are we going based off?

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Like?

Speaker 1 (43:49):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (43:49):
And then, by the way, this is a very factual thing.
It's not even just a woman complaining. I'm just like, Okay,
what is what is the criteria that we do? You know,
I don't know any of these lists.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
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always wonder like, uh, you have such a great I
feel like you know you're one of those artists that
Tech calls every couple of years to hit get on
his album. What can you just kind of explain your guys'
relationship and what has been like to kind of have
Tech nine embrace you, you know, from an early stage

(45:29):
in your career the techs, Like, I feel like if
you go to a snow show, there's like this cool
gumbo pot of fans who know you from different shit,
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it's like a
very diverse crowd. It's very different, Like you're like very
much like you have your own thing. But I know,
I know like a lot of my friends like first
got hit to you from from like hearing you on

(45:50):
a Tech record.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah. He's always told me that he's really a fan
of my like technical skills rapping. Yeah, So like there'll
be times where I'll drop a song or whatever and
he'll randomly just text me the song and be like goddamn,
like that right, And I know, like like now I
know the technicalities of that he's talking about because he won't.

(46:14):
It won't be every song, but it'll be like specific
things I do in a song where he'll be like
that shit was fire, you know. So I think just
as a fan of like rap music, when you get
to a certain technical standpoint or for example, lyric like
me being friends with Tech nine and Immortal Technique to
me is like it speaks to me as an artist
as a rapper, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, industry, whatever, lists,

(46:37):
whatever we're talking about is whatever. But like when we're
really sitting here talking that I were bar for bar
up up there, I'm like, okay, boom, Like I I
feel that's the type of ship that keeps me going
that I'm like, okay, I'm not tripping.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah. It's like if some of the greatest of all
time are are fans of you, that tells you, like
all you really need to know that's yeah, because otherwise
I don't quit a long time ago FU fan, Like
like who cares what a blog says, like yeah Tech
nine is hit, and you're like yo, if Immortal tech
who's also one of them? One or even.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Whenever, like I'm in the room with like one of
these huge fucking artists and they go snow and I'll
be like then it at least just for me, reality
just doesn't feel as like fucked off because sometimes I'd
be like damn, Like I must be garbage, Like what
the fuck, like these these fucking big publications don't. But
then I'm like, no, it must be something else. Maybe

(47:30):
it's because I don't know, people probably think I'm a bitch.
I don't think people probably thinking I'm a bitch, Like yeah,
because think about it, most people don't really see me
on the day to day. They see that one clip
where I said, everybody suck my dick, like, so people
are just like, every time I see this girl, she's
going off. But it's like, that's because those are the

(47:50):
moments that go viral. The moment that went viral was
me saying that, which, by the way, I forgot I
said that till the next morning when my girl was
watching the damn video the way she was watching it,
and I like, wake up and I just hear me,
and I was.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Like I said that. I was like, whight I say that?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
And then I watched the clip and I was like, Okay,
I ate that, yeah because it was true. Yeah, because
there was a lot of I know the demographic of
of the people that were there, and I know the
demographic of the people that were backstage, and I know
the demographic of the people that voted for Trump. So
I knew that that's what it was, but I don't know,
let's just not pussy foot.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Around it, would you?

Speaker 2 (48:23):
I mean, for example, hanging out with you know, Mario
Lopez or something. It's like people who are very friends
with Mario obez, like you know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Is Mario Lopez a trumper? I don't know. I don't know.
Is he? Is he? Oh?

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Is he?

Speaker 1 (48:35):
I don't know? Well, I mean, like obviously, like, would
you ever have a conversation with a guy like Magic
because you guys just have a relationship. Digging was a
dope record with you him and Twister? Like mm hmm,
Like if you guys ran into each other backstage, would
you holler at him like or is? Because he's a legend?
Magic is a legend. He's obviously you know, he's empty. Magic.
He just celebrated thirty years you know, would you ever

(48:55):
have a combo with him?

Speaker 2 (48:57):
I feel like if the conversation was live streamed and
we were able to actually just put it out there
into the world, Yeah, not an edited, chopped up ass
live stream that makes me look crazy. No, because there's
been plenty of drums borders that are like down to
do content, and I'm.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
Like, I'm down to do it live live.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
So yeah, so you so you don't do the whole
chopping and making shit weird or whatever, because I do
think right now it is time for us to kind
of like like talk about this stuff so hopefully it
doesn't get any worse, because I do think it's gonna
get worse. And I'm not just talking about ice An immigration.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
I'm just talking about like just the country in general.
Just I feel like there's this crazy divide and then like.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
And then AI and then how much bots and then
how much how the social awkwardness right now with so
many people, So it's like there's just even when you
go out in the street, like we've gone like right
after tromp One, like we've gone out on the street,
like getting the N word and getting like all this
stuff like hard r like getting talked too crazy, like.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
And that's here, that's in La Bro.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
That's actually in a fancy restaurant where you're just like, bro,
what the fuck is happening?

Speaker 1 (49:59):
Yeah, feel like we're in this like weird space where
they're every like legitimately all these billionaire fools really just
don't want anybody to do anything but stay home and
like put on VR glasses and fucking they want to.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Sell you everything they wanted to. They want you to
order it on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
They don't ever want you to leave your fucking house. Idiocrasy.
You know, it's funny. I watched Idiocracy, like probably I
rented it back in the that's how old that movie
was when.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
It was like I own it on my fucking phone,
like I pull it out and show it depends.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
So it's funny because I remember watching it and then
like even the like the last Trump win my boy
was like you got to rewatch Idiocracy, and I rewatched it.
It's probably been like five or six years since I
watched it again, but even more now than ever.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, when he's just sitting in the couch and he
just has like the and he's playing the.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Game Gray Player one. That's the thing is I do
feel like like there I'm like a hell of crazy
conspiracy theories, because I do feel like every movie is
purposely put out there to try to condition people to
just like to normalize certain things, like we're talking about
earlier aliens, like I feel like Ready Player won Idiocracy

(51:11):
even the movie there was a movie that what was
the name of that movie with Julia Roberts that the
Obamas produced that was on Netflix last year. Yeah, where
it's essentially like the whole movie is like, if America
were to crumble, it'd be because we got rid of
like the internet went out and there was no TV,
no internet. Yeah, and we were fed a narrative and

(51:36):
then Americans turned against each other. Yes, but I just.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Feel likely or like the Civil War movie.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Sorry, yeah, Civil War is one of those ones.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Did you just watch it that it was fairly new, right, Yeah,
it came out like last year.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Like I feel like people forget that this shit can
really happen because like we're wearing regular clothes. They're like, no, way,
civil War was back when you know whatever. But it's like, no, motherfucker,
like it can happen. We're gonna be wearing Jordan's the
Civil War, like what the fuck? And also like I
forgot what the fuck I was gonna say, Oh, the pandemic.

(52:07):
Do you remember when we when they were like, oh,
they're gonna shut down and everybody's like yeah right, and
they were like nah, I remember being told like starting
this Friday, you can't be out until whatever whatever. I
was like, the fuck, I was like, what are you
gonna tell me not to be outside?

Speaker 1 (52:21):
And then the thing, you know, I think that'shere. California
got it wrong though, because I think it cost so
many people, like small businesses and like. But that's the
thing I thought.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
I went to Florida and got COVID so bad I
can't smell to this fucking day.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Oh damn this shit. I was out there with the gloves.
I was fucking pumping gas with fucking rubber gloves on
and ship I was fucking I was paranoise. That's why
you're still alive.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Maybe, Like I think, I don't think California got it wrong.
I feel like had everybody jumped to it right away,
we would have prevented a lot of death, because I
do think, even even me till this day, like I
feel like.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
My heart like all kinds of shit they were doing
was they were allowing outdoor catering on movie sets, but
they weren't allowing outdoor dining at restaurants, so it was
kind of like a It was like, yo, if you're
gonna do that, you got to at least allow these
restaurants to have a chance to survive by having an outdoor,
you know what I'm saying. But yeah, I think in general,

(53:17):
it just feels like, you know, all of the identity
issues as you if you will, are like always kind
of played against. It's a class war all the other shit,
whether it's you know, I always say, like, you know,
when you think about like some of the like deciding
things that decided the election, you know, I think about

(53:38):
like the trans thing, and I'm like, yo, the trans
thing literally doesn't affect most people's lives. Like it's like,
like how many people actually have experienced, like their daughter
playing against a trans athlete in a high school sport.
Like what are we talking about here? Like this shit
is like literally a non issue in terms of like
how you actually live your life. Everything.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Yay, it's like one percent less than one percent.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
It's like the the the what's the word?

Speaker 2 (54:07):
The fucking reading level and the comprehension level in the
United States is seventh grade. So yes, of course, if
you go boys in girls' bathroom bad, and everyone's like, yes,
boys and girls bathroom bad. But then you're telling them like, bro,
that is a one percent or you start saying certain
words that are way too like elevating.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
I think that's why the left fucked up, because they
started digging in on these issues that didn't really It's like, yo,
just the shit that matters is like affordability, the middle
class being able to afford homes again, yeah, and like
just and yeah, I mean that's the other thing is
like the first go round, like I was very much
like if you voted for Trump, like I stopped talking
to my cousin, like, oh, just hard cut off one

(54:47):
of my closest cousins. This go round, I was like, man,
the Biden years were kind of interesting. So if somebody
if you wore a red hat, I'm obviously to me
that's different because you're a fucking cult member. But if
someone told me, yeah, think I'm gonna I vote for Trump,
I would I didn't necessarily like shut that person down immediately,
if that makes sense, because I felt like the Biden

(55:08):
years were very like like whatever, bro, like you know
what I'm saying, Like I'm not. But but now it's
like when you see people like like we were talking
about earlier, just like doubling down. I'm like, yo, how
do you not see this shit? Is insane. Yeah, like
what are we doing? And then you know, for me too,
like the fact that the Biden administration was like funding
the genocide in Gaza was like crazy. So it's like

(55:30):
if you didn't vote for fucking Trump or if you
didn't vote for First.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
But that's everybody. I feel like the United States is compromised, right, Yes,
the United States is absolutely com We know that, and
I hate that every time that you talk about that.
If you talk anything about Israeli, immediately they think you're
anti semi but you're not, because there's no problem like
you're you were talking about these people were told in
the United States, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican whatever.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
The government. So there's there's different things.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
That you know what I'm saying, Like when I was
saying anti Maga or whatever it was, how could you
sit here and hear Project five and here Steven Miller
and here all these all these people and still be
on that side or be with the red hats and
and and all that. That's one thing Republican versus Democrat,
of course, like yeah, I can agree with you. The
fucking Democrats sit there and start talking and all these

(56:15):
different little like even when I went to to the
Sanders thing, like I was hearing some people talking, I
was like, that doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
So it is so much like yeah, like I love
Bernie Bernie, and I.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Love I love Bernie Sanders, but the people that are
supporting start digging their heels on so many different night
that it splinters off into a million movements that all
attack each other, and it just all like caves in
as opposed to on this side, they're just like fucking races,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
And then a couple of Mexicans that also I think,
like the splintering of the right yes with each other.
I'm like, wait a minute, is Marjorie Taylor Green making sense? Right?
What the fuck Kennice Owens has got bars all of
a sudden.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, No, it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
It's it's I'm you know, I'm just we'll see what
happens in the midterms.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
In my in my in my mind, I feel like, good,
good thing that that's happening, and we know that there's
gonna be a what's the word, like a pendulum spendulum
swinging the other way. I just hope that by the
time it happens. We're not too far gone because the
United States is being sold for parts right now, right
we're getting by the time we get there, it's like
what do we have.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
To work with? Shop right now? And they're breaking it down.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
You take what's happening in Mexico right now, Like everybody's
just like, oh, well, why is in clydeas shame bo
I'm fixing all these things.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
And it's like, bro, it's.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Been fucking years and years and years of Mexico being
so fucked up, and then all of a sudden you
get here and you're like, well, tap tap, it's fucking
six months and you're like, dude, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Like now it's closed. I can't even imagine what it
like to be in that position in a country like Mexico.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
And it's it's been compromised all those years by United
States and Canada going in. So to me, it's like
finally Mexico and a lot of these Latin American countries
are having a backbone and they're saying, hey, we are
sovereign country. You're not gonna fuck with us. And of
course here comes the stupid shit. They start the propaganda
in Mexico.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
They start saying, well, no, the shit they're doing with
Venezuela is insane. They're literally trying to act like we
get drugs from Venezuela and I'm like, hey, guys, literally
no fetanol comes from Venezuela at all. It comes from
China through Mexico to the fucking United States. Like this
is a not They're literally just trying to take the oil. Yeah,
they just fucking stole a fucking oil rig, Like we're

(58:26):
fucking pirates.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
Yeah, we're the pirates now.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
And then you got Pete Heg. SAT's fucking posting all
these videos of fucking just unnamed people getting murdered in boats.
It's fucking insane. Bro. I just know, like you said,
I hope whenever the pendulum does swing, we're not too
far gone, because if we're not, a lot of motherfuckers
are going to prison. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
I think it'll be hard, though, Like the more that.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Because some of those some of those boat strikes are
fucking illegal, like they're just murdering people with no fucking
like due process. Like it's it's wild.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
The money, bro, you got to follow the money, and
there's too much money. A lot of people can be bought.
A lot of men can be bought.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
All those major corporations are donating to building the new
ballroom at the White House right now because he destroyed
the East Wing at the White House, and three hundred
companies are paying for the new ballroom. And so it's
like anyone on like Apple pallenteer, it's it's it's gets
spooky times. It's definitely if every once in a while,

(59:33):
be like, damn, Like is the end of the world? Like,
am I going to see the end of the Am
I going to see the end of the United States Empire? Like?
Will I be alive for that? I think I might be?

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Like, it's kind of and then only if you travel
do you realize do you like, other countries really got
some cool shit.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I went to Japan. Japan's ship, Yeah, so crazy. Everything's clean,
you know. Obviously you can't smoke weed, which kind of sucked.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
You probably don't have told you can smoke weed in Thailand,
you know, and the Yeah, when I was working on
this project, I was like about to move to Mexico
and everything. My kid's fifteen, so he's turned sixteen at
this point. I gotta have that conversation with him, like, baby,
you know if I'm leaving, Like, what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
You coming? What we're doing like taking care of the
ranch while I'm gone, Baby Drew ranch. He's gonna have
a dad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
He's gonna turn it into a fucking content house.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Yeah, it's gonna be. It will be a content house
one hundred percent will be insane. No, what part of
Mexico would you move?

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Wells and I have some land there. I have a
house in Tulom, I have you know, I have my
different spots to figure out where I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
I love tou loom looms beautiful. There's a so. The
closest beach to Phoenix is a place called Porto Penasco,
which is in Sonora. It's a it's like a three
hour drive from Phoenix. It's fire, It's like it's like
a secret still. There's resorts on the water and ship
and the water is like super warm. But eventually I
was like me and my wife talking about buying a
condo there because we go every summer. But eventually it's

(01:01:02):
like Tulum. Though. I feel like during COVID man Tuloom
blew the fuck up became.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Yeah, I can't wait for everybody to just leave, yeah,
and just leave it to like everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Sorry, have you been in Mexico City? Yeah, I heard
it's like the best.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah, Mexico City is amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
We're we're on our way over there and like a
few couple like a week and a half or two,
but yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
I feel like what I had, a beautiful Monterey is beautiful,
you know, beautiful. It's all beautiful, man. And that's I
think that was the biggest thing that was kind of
being a bummer when when the trumpy stuff was coming up,
is that they just kept on being like shithold countries
and even Mexicans. I was watching Mexican American people talking
bad about Mexico, and I'm like, do you not get
the propaganda?

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Do you not get that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Right now, Canadians, Europeans, freaking Argentina's Americans are all buying
up Mexico and you're sitting here buying up the propaganda
that Mexico sucks. Meanwhile, all these people are buying up
your fucking land like you should be buying it. I
got in trouble with Mexico for that because then I
had people from Mexico telling me that I'm making American

(01:02:07):
Americans when I'm literally saying, Mexican Americans should stop being
scared of buying in Mexico because everyone else is fucking
buying it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Don't let them buy your shit.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
When later on you're gonna fucking regret it, right, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
And so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I feel like it is difficult to be the person
saying this because because I'm so close into the Mexico
like they talk shit and then Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
But at the same time, hey man, Mexican Americans should
be way more prouder of being from Mexico and you
should stop listening to your parents. I tell you it's
a shithole. Like invest into Mexico.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
It's beautiful. And every I always tell this because uh
my dentists and TJ. I always the people will be like, yo,
you go to t T one and like we'll have
I'll go to dinner, I'll stay to night like I
love TJ. They got the best mad East Coast, and
then Portoanuevo, which is like maybe like forty five minutes south.
It's like the lobster. I don't know if it's a
lobster capital, but it's fucking cad. Hey, we gotta wrap

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(01:03:45):
How did it happen? And I think, how did that happen?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I think I like, I was like, yo, you're killing
in and then he was like, yo, like you fucking
set a blueprint.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
And then we were both.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Talking and he was talking to me about how like
I've been doing this and I'm kind of setting a
bootprint and the immigrant I mean in the sorry in
the industry. And then I told him, I'm like, you're
the reason that people are even looking this way. I
feel like Russ L Russell like different artists that they
they people are even noticing how successful you could be
as an independent artist. So it's really becoming a valuable

(01:04:16):
lane as opposed to sometimes when you're just independent, people
think it's synonymous with like unsuccessful.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Right, because you talked about like with your your being
able to go straight to the fans to spend money,
like pay what you want. Do you feel like because
rus L Russell rather Russ too, though Russ fuck man,
Russ has been preaching this independent shop forever, but you've
been doing it in your own way. Was was any
of the way that you're kind of rolling out the
album like inspired by what Russell kind of was doing,

(01:04:45):
I think even.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Back since the Nipsey days, right, like right, but like he.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Was the first one obviously, Yeah, yeah, with the one
hundred dollars mixtape. Yeah, I feel like I just love
to pay what you want like that shit's fired.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Yeah, I mean I have a Prince tattoo, like I
feel so like, you know, from Prince to Nipsey to
Lo Russel to Russ to me to anybody who's who's
out here really like trying to pave the way for
more people to do it and for it to be
more acceptable. It's just you're fighting the big machine. The
big machine to me, like it broke my heart. Like

(01:05:19):
this music shit has broke my heart multiple times, just
because sometimes you'll be sitting there and looking at someone
and be like, bro, I thought we was the homies
and you're like, oh, all right, so it was like
an industry thing or like a money thing or whatever,
and it's like you really see people for what it is.
So I think, power to your own team, power to

(01:05:40):
the fans, power to that connection, power to building. You know,
ten thousand real fans is better than a million fake.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
If you're starting ten thousand fans that will spend money
with you and support you, Fuck, you're gonna be good
for life and that'll fucking make you feel better.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Bro, Like, fuck the money sometimes like I've literally gone
live when I'm having like I'm literally on the edge,
like I'm like, bro, I feel like shit. And I
have fans like yo, really reaching out, like really giving
a fuck, really being.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Like actually help you. It really helps you, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
So it's like the power of a thousand people even
just just really giving a fuck about you. Can you
imagine like some of us that don't really like have
close relationship with some of our family, like seeing people
throughout all these fucking years give a fuck is it
means more to me And it makes me not question

(01:06:29):
my reality so much because it's like, no, there's there's
these people and I see them every year and they
go and they and I see them at the shows
and they fuck with me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
And you probably have fans that you've been seeing on
the road like for like over a decade now where
you're just like, oh, I know, if I go to
this city, I'm gonna see so and so. Yeah, like
they're gonna be there no matter what. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
I have a song on this album called Mariposa for
an art for a fan that passed away recently and
her name Celia, and she was one of my first
fans and like when I first started. I remember I
had so little bit of fans that like I drove
like two hours to go see her. Like I was
at some city and I was like, I'm gonna go
see We're gonna go see Celia because she was the
only one of the only people supporting me, you know.
So it's like I went and I saw her, I
met her family and we took pictures and everything. And

(01:07:10):
it's like throughout all the years, I would see her
every year at multiple shows, and you know, she just
became this staple to my fan base of like Celia's here,
you know, like we know who she is. And so
now that she passed, like to me, it was very
difficult this year to just be like is that a sign?
Is that a sign of just like you know, age career,

(01:07:30):
like where I'm at, Like what's happening now I'm losing
people that I started with. Like it gets to that
point where it just gets.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
A little sad, you know, a little like did you
Cause it's funny like that word woke, Like your your
fan base was like you were pushing the woke shit.
There's a lot of people with woke tattoos and and
then all of a sudden woke becomes this like weird
negative word that the Right rebrands. I noticed, like, are

(01:07:56):
you not, like, is the woke thing still something that
you push or because that's I feel like that's your
own thing, that's separate from whatever any connotations, like normal
people might think it means, but it was your thing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I think the woke thing became very blurry even before,
even even before the Right branded it, like you know,
everything just exists, you know, like if we're talking if
we're talking real wokeness, if we're talking real awareness, it's
like everything is. You know, you pull in, you pull
ideas from fucking the universe, and if it's not with you,
it'll be with someone else, and everybody could simultaneously be

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thinking of different things.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Maybe it'll have its second wind in a positive way.
I think it needs to. I think I think what
has been done. I think the Right can turn anything
into a negative thing. Right, isn't the like any like,
for example, the concept of make America great, It's like
it could be it could be a good thing if

(01:08:58):
it was handled by anyone else, But these motherfuckers turned
it into what does make America great again? Mean? Like
you know, when dudes were beating their wives and you know,
whatever they were doing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
So it's like I was just wondering because like, I'm
sure like you sold so much, like merged just the
tattoos out. Do your frians ever hit you and be like, yo,
what's up are we bringing? Walk back? Like not understand
in your way? My fans are smart, you know, they
see it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
They're like, girl, we saw what the fuck happened, and yeah,
of course they wanted to like push and whatever. But
I'm like, bro, I'm already fighting so much, like I'm
constantly fighting for so much, and I'm like, I don't
even think that I think we know who we are,
and like you know, I, I uh, I don't know, Bro,

(01:09:44):
you stumped me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
I don't know. I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Like I feel like it sucks that most of my
life has been kind of having to unfortunately go against
the grain, But I also don't know why the grain
is always built against people like me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
I feel like we were talking a little bit earlier,
like you have for whatever you've been through in the
music industry, the fact that you've been able to no
matter what was going on behind the doors of a
major label or whatever. You were able to go and
touch the people and sell out venues and build this
fan base that supports you. So it's like most people,

(01:10:20):
there's people who have triple five million, ten million records
sold whatever it is that cannot fucking sell out a
fucking shoe box. So it's like, like you were saying,
it's like you'd rather I would You'd rather have that
fan base than like one record, two records? Like, yeah,
maybe I see so many guys who like so many

(01:10:40):
toys have gotten canceled recently because I saw that. Yeah,
So say, whose tours are not getting canceled? Know the products?
I'm dead? Yeah, are you taking anybody out on the
road with you? No? As of right now. I mean
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
We we announced it pretty early, so it's not for sure,
you know what I'm saying, Like it's still December and
then we don't go out till March. So right now,
if even though the way time's been going right now,
right next thing you know, it's there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
And we're like, what the fuck is going on? This
year has flown by.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
So as of right now, no, I I have a
really cool idea for the crash Out the grash Out sessions.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
What I want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
I'm taking Mondays and Tuesdays off on the road so
that I could do my podcast on the road. I
want to interview cool people throughout the country, Like I
want to basically take the podcast on the road, make
content stream.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
You know. Connection. I think that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
I think for twenty twenty six, my word is just
connect with as many people learn from people, like fucking
have a whole conversation. I have this kid that that
was a Trump supporter that's coming on my podcast. He's
down to have a conversation, and I'm like, I'm down
to the conversation too, because like kid, uh yeah, a
Mexican kid. He just he's just like yo, like I'm

(01:11:48):
down to talk. He's like and I was like, I'll
blow your face if you want, Like I don't know
how the conversation is going to go, but we could
just do it. And he was like no, He's like,
I'll stand on you know what I did, and I
want to have a conversion. I was like, period, Like
that's how simple it is to just kind of like
reach across the table and be like all right, what
are we doing it's important, you know, those conversations.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
It's like you can't hate your neighbor. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
It's like social it comes burning down, we gotta say,
we gotta save each other.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
It's gonna be everybody versus the motherfucking AI. Bro, that's
what the fuck's coming. Are you scared of it? Oh?
I mean it's the It's inevitable though. Yeah. So it's
like it's like being scared of like the Internet. It's like,
I truly believe in the next ten years, like most
jobs are gone. I think like we're at the beginning
of like a real serious great depression. You know, you

(01:12:35):
know how people be like jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Jobs being gone means maybe we'll be able to be
more creative and we'll be able to have time. It's
like I don't think so, Like, I think we're gonna
have to do the sad No, I think we're gonna
have this, like the the physical labor jobs. Like I
think we're gonna be so desperate that they're gonna make
us do the really hard jobs that AI can do.
Because Elon Musk's robot can't even pour those drinks.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Well, they were saying, you saw that. Yeah, yeah, I
saw it. Yeah yeah, well yeah, all those well all
those robot demos that they've been rolling out, all the
companies they're being controlled by like humans like in the
other room. Yeah, it's bullshit, but I still have that
to say that. They keep saying that the jobs that
the new millionaires that are going to be created after

(01:13:23):
this AI boom will be plumbers and electricians and contractors,
because AI can't replace a plumber, you know what I'm saying,
Like they you can't fucking send some robot over your
house to fucking dig up a fucking pipe and fix
the shit, or you know what I'm saying. So that's
I would tell you, like anybody who either learn the
fuck how how you can like build the AI models
for different companies, like learn that shit, don't just ignore it.

(01:13:45):
But then if you're like I want to I don't
know what to do, Should I go to school to
be a you know, I don't know whatever the fuck?
Go to school and like learn how to do some
shit with your hands. Yeah, hvac, plumbing, electrician. I agree,
But I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
That all these companies, all these private equity companies are
buying up all those small mom and pop of all that, though.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Well, they're also buying up all of the residential houses,
so there's no like, like it's crazy, like people our
age can't afford entry level homes anymore. Yeah, at the average. Yeah,
I think home by her age right now is like
fifty two. It's like back in the day we used
to be, Like, Man, if I could just pull together
like ten fifteen bands, I could throw a little fucking

(01:14:29):
down payment down and get fah long shit right, that
shit to get you a studio apartment in fucking Lancaster.
Maybe you could raise your family in there. You guys
could sleep on top of each other. Jesus Christ, that's
what's happening. It's fucked. It is fucked. It's like I said,
it's a class war. They got us fighting over all
this other shit while they're while they're fucking sitting at

(01:14:51):
the White House fucking ballroom that they're all donating to build. Yeah,
it's crazy. How do you feel about rap right now? Though?
I think it's in a good place. Yeah, I mean,
if you want to find the good ship. Yeah, it's
one of my favorite years in hip hop in a
long time now. Whether or not you think like rap
is pop again, or like you know, obviously there's this
conversation about hip hop and the Billboard charts. I don't

(01:15:12):
care about any of that. I'm just a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
So I feel like that got that got fucked u
because they changed the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
That's what I try to tell everybody. They changed the rules.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Everybody, everybody doubled down on that so bad they're hip hop.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
I told you all that happened was a rule. That's
like even like people trying to be like, oh, Kendrick
Lamar's song fell all the way off, I'm like, no,
they changed the rules because it was on so long.
That's why I try to tell everybody. With the new rules,
any of the Billboard records that are currently there, like
I think, what's Gabra's name, Little nas X, whatever the

(01:15:44):
fuck that's that record will never get broken now because
the new rules, it's not possible for like the Old
Town Road to ever be taken the record because after
a certain amount they take it off, it's it's considered
a recurrent. So yeah, they changed rule. But yeah, in
terms of hip hop, I think this year was dope.

(01:16:04):
I think clips showed like everybody like you could be
in your fifties and like still have a cultural moment,
go on tour, sell out everywhere. Yeah, there was some
incredible hip hop this year. Fucking Freddy Gibbs to Chains,
Larry June had a dope album. Chance the Rapper had
a really good album this year. I thought it was
a great hip hop year, one of my favorites in

(01:16:25):
a long time, price since like twenty twenty. But Clips,
Clips is fucking Notas just dropped the DJ premiere, Like so.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
You're more like you like that type of like more
oh yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Oh yeah, I'm a fucking but that's whey like but
ye okay, yeah, Like last night I was at this.
I went to Sway, so I know you were in
the merchant or that. It's cool to see because I'm
like like last night I went to Sway and King Tech.
They did this thing of this world famous like where
they for the culture, where they like give awards to
people who they think like are underappreciated and hip hop culture.

(01:16:56):
So like last night, like Crooked Eye Can Crooked and
like raz Cat and a large professor all got honored
and I was just like a fucking like a pig
and ship. I was like, I love this ship. Man.
I got to see the rizz of last night. I'm dead.
It was fucking awesome. But yeah, that's Doe. I'm a dusty,
dusty hip hop guy, you know, period.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
I mean and that, and I think that's The splending
of hip hop also has has had an impact on
what's going on, because now there's just so many subgenres,
Like hip.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
Hop is such a big thing. Yeah, like whatever Playboy
Cardi's doing is its own.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Little Yeah, it's like cool, that's y'all. And then there's this,
and then there's that, and I think it's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
And I respect, like there's some Playboy Cardi shit. I
love like, but you know, the kids got their own.
Like I went to NBA Young Boy and I went
to two concert tour dates because I wanted to see
the Young Boy shit live and uh, I was fucking
that ship was crazy. It was insane. Yeah, it was
like a whole crowd full of motherfuckers and ski masks

(01:17:55):
and it was Yeah, it was wild. Yeah, I mean
my son, but I fuck with young like, young boys
are good, ud Like I went to interviewed him at
his house when he was on house arrest, but I
just was like I gotta see this ship like and
it was. I'm like, this is It's just so cool
because like whatever world you're in or whatever, like pocket
of like hip hop you're into, Like it's so small

(01:18:16):
compared to like, there's so much to this culture that
is like you said, it's there's such subgenres that are crazy,
like yeah, which is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
A good thing, right because so many people, I think
now more than ever, so many people are making a
good living.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
In their niche. Like there's there's there's this bro who
does uh, what's that that lo fi ship? You know?
You ever throw on a low fi YouTube video and
it's like a Simpsons character like Bob in their head
for eight hours. Yeah, there's like low fi rap now
it's his own thing. These guys sell out shows and
I'm like, I didn't even know this fucking exists. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
I like going to those little sub like you know what,
I I didn't even know this was here, something like
super random shows because you're like I I like to
just find new worlds with this, you know. So yeah,
but I think it's good for hip hop. Well, your
album is out before I crash.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Out m H thirty songs, thirty Well it's twenty eight and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
The EP right, Yeah, so I got a lot of traction,
and there's there's some stuff that's on there that's pretty cool,
and then there's some stuff that I'm excited about. I honestly,
I already have music for the next project. Oh, I'm
creating a lot to not be stressed out and crashing out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
So I love it, you know. And then uh, tour
in March, tour in March thirty. Streaming just whenever you
feel you have a set schedule, like no, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
I think I'm about to start streaming right now. After
after this, I'm about to start. And just I'm building it,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Is the podcast like every The podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Is Tuesdays at six live. But if I don't do
it live, I like pre recorded or something, then you
got to stop by. And then yeah, just chilling at home,
you gotta stop by that the house have you gone to?
You haven't gone to my crib?

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
No, I know, beer house. What's it's like a well,
I don't want see my time. Yeah, we're not far
from each other.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah exactly. And then I made a rage room, so.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Just come bring some you at a Burbank Low Key restaurant,
and I was like, uh, what Lancers, I'm dead? Why
oh we run our way to Vegas. The shittiest little diner.
But I love it. I just like to sit there
and drink coffee. Really diner where they just keep pouring
it and it doesn't stop. That's fire. I just love it.

(01:20:25):
I'm like, yeah, top me off.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Those fries with the rams were mad good. Like I
had never been there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
But it's like there's Lancers Lounge, which is like a
part of it. It's like where like old people go
to drink and like go and then afterwards they probably
go home and beat their wives. But it's just like
it just reminds me of my childhood's three a trailer
parking in there. It's like dark, like green, like velvet
like just like you know, I haven't gotten ship faced

(01:20:51):
in there yet, but i'd like to. I'm dead. I
want to.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
I want to live an old white man life for once.
You should invite me, we'll go.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
I don't have it. I'm not capable of. Literally, the
old white man life that I could ever live is
just not my I live with my wife. I'm saying.
I know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
You said you want to go be like no, I'd
like to one day you're the old white.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Man faced and walk that like walk out of there
like damn, I had twelve Mikelobes. Twelve Mikelobes is crazy. Anyway,
appreciate you pulling up the twelve Mikelobs twelve makealobs later
we'll get the album. I'm sure you got. You got
hard copies and all that available hard.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Copies, all that ship go to everyday day, dot com
snow the product dot com snow the product with a
T because if you go to snow, the product with
a TG is porn. And I know some of your mockers,
but it's not mine. Somebody bought it. Somebody know the
product with a T E and turn it into like
a red dube.

Speaker 1 (01:21:43):
Or some ship.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
I'm dead, of course, how crazy it. As soon as
you go there, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
About to open snow the product with the TJA and
making it be my only fans so we can all
fucking compete.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Fuckers, What the fu about that? Tell one of your
red people it's probably the Bruhs. Why they fucking bought
my ship? Oh? You know who they are? You know
who owns all the important sites. I'm kidding anyway, Let's
keep it moving snow. The product appreciate you. Thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
MHM