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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the interview, yo, Bootleg CAV show Man. We got a
special guest in here, a legend.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Bow Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Shout tom Ca, what up? What yes, sir? The last
time we spoke was DM We argued about it.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hey, I'm glad you want to start you want to
start off start off with Let's start off with it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Come on this shout to Ray Daniels, who went viral
for his ridiculous comment about you being bigger than jay Z.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Out of conversation with him too. When he said out,
I called him. I was like, man, what what do
you starting?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You know this bout Now you gotta because now you
got to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
But what's crazy is like when he said it, you know,
everybody making valid points, and I'm just like, I'm like, bro,
I'm like, man, you're really gonna start up something because
all my fans and the younger generationals say he is, Yeah,
I don't see it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
That you're gonna have the older cats like a certain
demo of kids.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's the biggest.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
But I understood what he was coming from once he
explained it. It's like we ain't talking about who's the
best rapper? I said, all right, we ain't talking about that.
We're talking about we're talking about popularity contest. For that time,
it was a different type of way with me, you
know what I'm saying, Like like Mike was, like Mike
was out sending out Arenas selling out the Garden two
(01:51):
times in one year, sold Out the Garden was six
seven times.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It is a lot, you know what I'm saying. But
I understood he was saying.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
But it's like, I'm like, do you agree with him?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't know because because when we had the conversation,
I was like said, man, you don't understand because it's you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You don't see it.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
But then everybody else is like, now you got a
valid point. I don't want hear none of that ship, like,
we don't hear. We don't want hear skill for school.
We talked about celebrity. Nigga, you had a TV show, Nigga,
you was with Madonna, Like, Nigga, what is you saying? Like, Nigga,
you were just.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Talking about it?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Like I don't think people remember there's like the deluxe
version of your debut I'm a video game on where
you'reright on a scooter.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, like like like ship like that just went viral
for no reason.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm like, all right, that, Like that's just crazy, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Then working with Beyonce before whole work with Beyonce, it's
just a lot, but it's so many things. But at
the same time, I'm like, man, we different artists, we
make different music and different walks of life. It's it's
really like a weird comparison, but he knew what he
was doing when he did it, because he knew that
was gonna spark convo. But I ain't really feed into
it like that though. I don't only be caring about
it like that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
When you're a little kid and you have to do
the classroom skin on doggie style, tell me about that
studio session, because that's what's crazy. That's like one of
the most iconic skits ever.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And I'm all three kids soon.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Oh so you're fucking like I want to be a firefighter.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, I want a police officer. And you in the
back with the French braide.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That was my That was my mom's boyfriend's homeboy who
did that part, played the teacher and then you know
Snoop tell the story too, like man, but I was
all the characters nigga, that little nigga was acting before
he was way back.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah. So but that was.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Crazy to go to my mom to say, can you
say motherfucker? And she was like, I said, well, you
know he's playing a little Snoop, So it's this is
what Snoop would say. So I got away with with
the whole skit thing.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That was before you like like had started like recording
with death Brow. Yep, you just pulled up because you
like got got picked out.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, in my hometown Columbus, Ohio, rapping god rested so
A J. Johnson, you know, play plays there Friday.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I got the hook up.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I got the hook up all that, you know what
I'm saying. He was he was the MC, he was
the host of the Chronic tour. And I'm in the
audience and he picked me. Got there, got on the stage,
start rapping.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Should change your life?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Changed it? Yeah, it was over.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Dads came and got me, and them came and got me.
DJ Jam all of them came and got me. Put
me to the back resident at dethro.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Right, because if you're a little kid, so I'm assuming
like all the crazy like studio stories we hear about
those days, yeah, they probably weren't in the middle of
a bunch of crazy shit knowing that there was a
child around.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah nah, I was around though, Like I was around,
but like sugaring them did a good job me though,
like certain things I wasn't invited to.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But also I was still the kids.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So I was just running around a little montros with
you know, all the the mantros was popping back in La.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
That was the pop I want till all the celebrities stay.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
At and so for me, like ABC would be there, Kirk,
like I was just I was just one of the kids.
Like I wasn't really like I said, I was around
for everything, but if it was crazy, I couldn't go
to parties, defro parties and stuff like that. Me mainly
is video sets, studios and like shows. They had shows,
and shit.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Did they ever try to like I feel like back
then it would have been the very sug night thing
to do to try to like get you to discriss
cross or something. Nah, he never did.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
He never did.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
He never did, never did, or they were beeven with
Easy Heavy at that time.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Correct, Yeah, hell yeah, it was on like when that
was happening. That's when I got on the label. That's
when that happened. And then setting label for a little minute.
Then they then they told me that I'm about to
start working on this Murder was the case album. We
got this movie coming out, and he's gonna do the soundtrack.
Just's be the perfect thing to launch a little bio.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I'm only gonna put your cussing like a psychopath.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
You ever heard the records? Yeah, that's corrupt, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And then you say, funk a lot for a little kid.
Do you know this verse?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Still? Yeah, since trade zero am on and now wait.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
For you sound like a four.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
But my cadence though you Snoop Snoop version is on YouTube,
like he laid the reference.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yo shout out to Snoop. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna
make this little kid cuss man.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
No, I'll tell you what I probably woudn't be saying
with you right now. I continue it down that we.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
See that path hit a wall every time it was over.
I know, look, did it right?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He was like, you know, I wasn't in a proper
place mentally and in the label wise, you know his
situation with Deffo at the time, and he was kind
of like, I can't have no kid around this shit.
I got to put him with a motherfucker I could trust.
Motherfucker's really gonna take care of me because motherfucker's a superstar.
He just need the right person with him.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And boom. JD.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, it's crazy because I can imagine, like I think
JD is the most underrated executive producer, writer, I feel
like he just doesn't. I mean I interviewed him earlier
or late late last year he.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Had the war. Uh no No.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I interviewed him in that New York when he was
promote the album, and I was like, dude, like, I
don't I know that there was like this versus talk.
I'm like, I really don't know who what do you
play after? If you're going against JD after he plays Confessions?
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, you got to make
sure you got a producer. I got some ship.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
He's just one of them ones. And you know what.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
But but for you to be able to kind of
come up and be around the golden era of West
Coast hip hop, if we think about Death Row and
then going and working with So So Deaf, which is
its own juggernaut, Man, what is like the contrast, like
the big difference between the two situations because he had
already did with Chriss Cross.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You ain't got worried abut geting fucked up. If you
fuck up on a world on your rap, you know
what I'm saying, You ain't gotta walk on eggs shields
around the studio. It was definitely a culture shock for
me because I didn't know who JD was at all.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You gotta think when they came to Columbus and found me.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I was five one on six. I finished out the
tour and came right to La So I was West
Coast out. I didn't know no East Coast rappers, no
down South rappers, no nothing. And I and I really
did not like Criscross because they were so big at
the time, I felt like that was supposed.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
To be me, your competition.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, there you go. So yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So getting to Atlanta, man, that was a whole culture
shock finding out who Jermaine was.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And then I'm like, oh, this is due that found
that put on Chriscross the world will right in my.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Mind, I'm like, I'm supposed to ride it out with
Snooping to the to the casket drop.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's how it's supposed to go. But you know, Snoop
was right.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Jermaine had the tools, he had to the plan and
he knew exactly what to do, you know, and and
he did it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
When you were working on Beware of Dog, do you
guys like understand like you're a kid, obviously, but I
mean you got some big record. I mean this this
album was.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
A four times, four times platinum.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Now, yeah, as a kid, do you have any idea like, oh, ship,
like we got some ship, like this ship's gonna nope.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, they like, oh you he's platinum. Oh he's double platinum.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Okay, oh he's triple plattum Now okay, now we just
got certified last year four times. So I'm like, all
right now I know the significance. But at first, Hell now,
I'm just all I want to do is just be
a kid and get girls and get money and buy Jerseys.
I wouldn't even want to catch Jersey on the cover.
Come on there all the time, Jesus. Yeah, are you
a Browns fan?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
No, not at all. A Falcon fan?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That's about to say, man, Falcons for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But I support your Door though, I mean yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I hope they figure that out because I think he's cool.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, we got the fans getting Atlanta now, so you know,
we give him a chance. I don't really rock how
you traded Door and all that.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But hey, he's gonna do the same thing with Michael
Pennix Junior.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I know he is, thank you, I know he is cook.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I might get ready bro, get ready shot to be
John Robinson, the best playing the league, best running back
in the league. Yeah, for sure, got that. Talk to
me about this tour man, you and B two K.
You guys are getting getting there. I mean obviously they're
literally getting the group back together. Uh, but you guys
are kind of synonymous with each other.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, and I think it's a BT wave, the one
of parkwave with you guys.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Most definitely just a full circle moment, you know what
I mean twenty five years ago with twenty four years
ago looking back first Arena tour, you know what I mean,
the boys was there and now we're looking up. Like
I said, twenty four years later, we here now still
doing it, you know. Me and Trey Songs has come
up with a successful tour last year, and the year
before that was another one. The year before that, everybody
(09:53):
on that tour. It's been like five millennium tours. But
in the past seven years, like we've just been cooking.
And so it's definitely a blessing to be able to
do it with, you know, tour with guys that you
started out with and being at that big gap of
twenty four years was in the middle of Now we
look and we're here because I don't know no artists
who can say that type of shit like yo, start
out O two now twenty twenty six, were about to
(10:14):
do it again, like it's just one of them tours.
You're gonna have to see if you're a part of
that era. You're a part of that that that type
of vibe and you grew up with us our day
once and some shit you don't want to see because
you don't know if you're ever gonna get this line
up again.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Could this spark another face Off album?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It could, but I I already got an album that
came with somebody though.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Really New Trey Songs, that makes sense. Shout out to
a New Tree Songs album about on the way.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You see how we just guessed things because he just
got off tour with them all last year, So would
only makes sense. You guys work on an album on
the bus?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You're a cold, motherfucker cold. That'd be fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Right here.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, we got we got some we got some things cooking,
bab we go out have some fun though, three three projects.
It's time, man, you know, just torn for the pasting
has been in front of the fans. Man, it's like
we said, down these arenas well. I gotta I gotta
put the gout, put some music out.
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All let's get back to the podcast. So I gotta
ask you, man, because you always kind of like came
off as like an entertainer to like dusty old hip
hop heads like me, and then you go on this
like run where you start like caring about like showing
people you could really spit, and you were dropping mixtapes.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And shit, green lights and all that.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, was that like something that was important to you?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
It was because no matter what, like like if j
D JD. I've seen JD say like, man Bow I
was a rapper. Man, I don't know him. Like if
you don't know Bo, if you ain't kicked doing him,
shut the fuck up. You just don't know him because
Bo is a rapper first, like and it's the truth,
like like I come from death Row. That's the DNA.
(14:39):
Like I'm a real rap like a historian. I lift
this hip hop shit. I breathed it, you know what
I'm saying. Like my favorite movie is Breaking on the
break into like I live this shit. I love hip hop,
And for me it was important because that dog is
always gonna be in me. If you're a rapper, they
know what I'm talking about. That dog gonna always be
in you to the point where you know, you gotta
(15:00):
show motherfuckers Like, man, I'm really like that, Like I
can go like, I don't know what the fuck out
And your favorite rapper came up under up on bow
Wow and what was a fan of bow Wow? Like
this is facts, you know what I'm saying, Like straight facts.
So for me, it's like, yeah, it's important because I
got to show them what it is, and and over
and over the course of my career, I have whether
that's the you know, rap city basement freestyles, jumping in there,
(15:22):
making them legendary joints, mixtapes like you said, or just
throwing it out there just to do it.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Just it.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
It's a sport, it's fun, you know what I mean.
Just shoving up the skills. That's what that shit really mean.
That's what it's all about to me. But it's definitely
important though.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You have one of the most legendary rosters of famous
women that you've been in relationships with or you know,
pooled around with. Yeah, what if you learned from like
being in public situations with another famous person.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That you like, I hate it?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, I hate it now because I lived and I
done it, And I like, how peaceful my life is
when the girls not famous? So I get away with
more shit, So like I can get away with a
lot of I could live my life. Let's say it's
tough when you're both famous.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Is it hard for you to find women that aren't
in the club all the time because you're in the
club all the time? I quit, good, bro, listen the club.
There was a scott Stale run that this motherfucker had
yo or we had him an international like every fucking
fucking forty days. And eventually eventually they were like, hey,
we want to book Bowo And I'm like, dude, he's
(16:24):
cooked in the market fifty times. We can't pay when
he wants anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Remember that, Bro, I was like, yo, No, it was crazy.
I was like, I was the Scottsdale so and hey,
I'll put you on the Skuys. Then what I kept
telling you, I said, well, I'm out there, heavy, heavy,
i'ven been in a long long time.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Well, yeah, put the club. Are you a pink rhino
guy when you were out there Jaguars?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I went to Jags one time. Yeah, to pink. I
might have been the pink was a while ago.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
But for me, like Atlanta with the Mecca Strip club.
Of course, you know what I'm saying. We get butt
ass snagging in Atlanta. So when I got it every thing.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, when I go out of town, when you got
an asshole flaying around your face.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I'll trying to sell you. So when you go out
of time, you hit some of these clubs, these trip
clubs is just not the same.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You like pasties, that's there's a New York cities like that.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, but see New York, the girls just so damn fine,
like you don't even care. You go to Starlars to
be at the bar, just not caring, just giving her
all your money. It's about the bartenders, the bartenders, yes,
and the Atlanta is about the dances.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Do you like?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Like what was the thing that inspired you to be
like I got to quit the club?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
My team, my manager him, just you know, enlightening me
and letting me know, like yo, like bro, everybody gives
you the goat, stamp, legend all that shit, but you
got to really act like want to walk on like
now you're grown down, expose yourself over, expose yourself. So
I want you to look at some of your closest piers.
The only time they hit the club is when they
(17:59):
on tour. I never really see them. You got to
be like that. I know they giving you good money
and all that, but sometimes I need you to fall
back can get what you really want to get. And
that saved me because I really do enjoy not going.
I don't know the last time I've been.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
To a club. That's I mean, dude, you ain't asked
me to do our party. I party like a motherfucker.
I know you fucking did. I just don't just at
the arabn be there. I just don't go to the club.
I don't go to the breaking club to you there
you go. I just feel like there's I just know,
I feel like I know the kind of women in
Arizona you've hung out with, and I'm like, I just
hope you're finding like I don't know where you're going
(18:33):
to find the accountant or like the teacher that you need.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
You know, like oh that nurses good good? Okay, definitely
definitely definitely, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Because it's like, you know, there's just I just feel
like there's like a roster of like fifty chicks that
everyone has fucked on the West Coast. Yeah, and it's
it's kind of crazy. I see like like NBA players
fighting with rappers over like a bitch. That like that's
a fact that like everyone has fucked. That's a fact
except me. I'm married.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
That's a fact that goes on.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Motherfuckers really have beef like over like girls that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Don't even belong to them, like prostitutes that don't belong
to them at all.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I tell these bitches, I'm like, you're a fucking prostitute.
You you're literally fucking for money.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah it might not be.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You don't got a fucking a. I don't even think crazy.
This is a thing.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
No, I just say some ship. I just seen some
ship on the way here. Motherfuckers sliding the girl DM
the girl DM him back full menu. I never saw
no shit like this is my life. Four thousand overnight
is four thousand.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Uh, A girlfriend is one hundred dollars. I guess.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I mean, I'm gonna act like I'm your girlfriend to
level you up a little bit. You can bring me
around your boys and make I'm gonna make you look
good type shit. I've never seen that type of shit
like this over my life is crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
When you shoot to let me hold you video and
you do the thing?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, can you do it?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Do you understand? Like how viral of a moment that
that's like gonna live in infamy for ah. Yeah, it's iconic.
So I gotta do it in the show. If I
don't it, I don't. If if I don't do it,
it's because I'm watching them do it. They do it,
and if I don't do it, they get pissed, like
I gotta do it. Yeah, gotta do it. I mean, dude,
it's iconic, and I do it. What is the single
(20:13):
song of yours that you are the most tired of?
Bounce with Me?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
That checks out. Bounce with me for the first one.
Oh my god, Then that's the one. What about a
song that you hated that ended up being a hit.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh, A couple of those?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, what song? Weren't you crazy?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh? I think they like me?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Oh ship? I mean that was that was a Socio
that record, right, Yeah, I thought it was a whack
of shit ever heard you know that whole era of Like,
I thought it was a wack of like the shop Boys,
and then I thought it was the what And it
goes back to.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Me telling you I am hip hop. I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I didn't understand did at the point, I know Pimy
gonna be loud becauseiming knows is the true shouts of French.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I wasn't it my broke?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
They got joints for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
And and when I got the record, Jermaine send me
the record.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I was hearing that, like Jermaine flew out LA to
make sure I did it because he knows me, Like
b I don't want to fucking.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Do the record, fucking gotta go out here to make
sure he does it.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Bro I kid you not. I'm like, I don't understand this.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
These motherfuckers keep saying the same fucking word over and
over in the fucking hook man, Like, what is this?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This ship is not what I'm accustomed to?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
For sure? So I do the verse.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I was so mad.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I did the verse one time, and that's the version
that the whole world and herd and I walked up
the studio and the left I said, JD, that's the verse.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I don't give a fuck you good figure it out.
I'm done.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
That's all you're getting from me. And then it blew up.
When number one, I'm like okayybody, like, that's the hardest
verse battle I ever spent this nigga spitting onder twenty
one with the Black cart Oh hell, I'm like, oh shit,
if y'all fuck with it, I fuck with it too.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But I was one shorty like mom was another one,
another number.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It wasn't like it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
It was.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
It was a Chris Brown record at first, one hundred percent.
It was all Chris and I'm coming off with fresh
as I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So I'm punk sure that's my favorite, so you feel
me bro pumped, I'm like j I was like slap.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I just did the show with Game Wayne t I nigga,
what nigga?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I need like eight more of these.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I'm Jay Kwan on that yep said I'm hanging with
these niggas now.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Ja Kwan. That hood hot beat was crazy. But know
where he's at right now. But it was with Nelly
moving shout to Jkwan. He caught the Shaboozie joint.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
That that ship's crazy, bro.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You know what thing I like about Kwano He caught
that and then got his got his Grammy or something.
It got his got his got got the pubbish, all
that crazy ship.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But then once that happened. He been on the road now,
no stop like Nellie was really yeah, Nellie knocked down.
Nellie's definitely looking out for Kuwana. That's a good look.
Shout at the Kwan man.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's the bro.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Saint Louis.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
What up did you and when you and here were
dating back in the day, did you guys ever think
about doing like a joint album? No, I never cross
because you guys got this giant record.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Ye never crossed? Has it ever? Has there ever been a?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, Big Sean and Janey I they did. They might
have been the first. Huh was that the first? Well,
didn't crazy fucking Beyonce do an album?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Nope? They just did a tour together.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah they did the tour.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, yeah, they might be the first.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Didn't they do an album?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Nah? Yeah, they got songs together with no album. I'm tripping.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I thought they did it like a I just didn't
give a fuck up on the run.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh we both confused.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
They did some ship. Just know that they did some ship.
But no, no, it wasn't a thought that that that
came to mind. Though.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
At what point in time do you realize you win?
The little Romeo beef as a kid.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
What's crazy is I never beef with Rome.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Was it just the fans that made it a thing?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
The fans made it a thing because I said the
line in Friends of Them is eighteen nigga making money
your dad.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
In reality, people don't know that's not even my bar.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Eighteen nigga making money your dad. If I'm not mistaken,
I believe that's either l or Rock Kim said that.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
So that's what we got.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
The line form like an homage.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I think it's LX call me about everybody in the
common y'all can correct me, but I think it's l
L that said the eighteen they making money your dad,
and that was you know it was.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It was a dope line. That's how I felt.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I feel like all the young cats, you know, all
they girls like me, and there was just a proper
flex to pop it back on their on their little
boyfriends and I'm eighteen, They're gonna make it money your daddy.
But the people took that like, oh, he gotta be
talking about him become my master. Yeah, And I'm like,
I love Pete growing up, like I got the hook
of everything that he ever did. Bro, Like I'm a
real hip hop baby, Like I respect P I love
(24:37):
pl love everything he did for the culture. First motherfucker,
I know who really made a honey m's off this ship?
Like I respect that after Trunk too, Like that's tough.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
What was the name of Masterpiece little kid group?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Like the toy So and Little So Little Soldier? Yeah, yeah,
yep yo.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I would set you no limonhead. I took my brod
money and bought that terrible bro the clothing, I had,
the shoes, he did it, he did it. I had
the ch over chain to turn green. It was like
fourteen dollars at the moment.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, I'll never be for wrongan uh No, I shot
the wrong and you know that's my guy.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Man, cool cool, cool dude. So, like you said, obviously
you got a trade song's joint album coming out. I
mean you said that, I said it, and you kind
of confirmed it.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I confirmed it, No, you kind of did. But whatever,
it's fine. Was there ever a joint album that almost
happened that just for whatever reason, never came out? Me
and Chris That makes sense. Mans had a fucking great
record last year.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Me and Brown Men. Thanks Bro, Me and Brown.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Wait right around the time we did face off, because
then I had signed a deal where I had I
had signed it, I was already going on tour with
Chris and I was trying to fit Oh in my
shows because it makes sense. I was like, we can
use this tour it when you know, promoted album whatnot.
And I remember Old Old did some of the dates
with me, and I just remember Chris saying, like, man,
(25:59):
why aren't you called? We could have just knock one out.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Bro just did this shit. I'm like, what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Like we already got like twelve thirteen songs anyway, we
could just pull together.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
But he definitely told me, like, man, you could just
called me. Man, we could have did it. But I
will say this man, me and oh we make some magic.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
The album you know, damn they're about to be certified
platinum now is already gold.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
But and we and we did numbers off that thing.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
And you know, like I said, I don't take nothing back,
but that would have been cool though, to get one
in with Brown, that would have been hard.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Do you just have like this wild like just hard
drive is just unrelea shit that we'll ever hear. Now,
y'all gonna hear it. Okay, y'all gonna hear it for sure.
For sure, who beside obviously you you do the socio
deaf thing, and there was a point in time where
you were off so so deaf, right yep? What was
the like, was there ever a deal you almost like
(26:46):
did Like I'm sure everybody's trying to sign you. What
was the closest you know, you were to signing maybe
to another situation with somebody we might.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Know, Atlantic Atlantic, That makes sense. Kevin lows I was shocking.
I was right there in the meeting, and you know,
he was managing me at the time, and he was
managing everybody. He was managing Mike Posner and managed like
(27:13):
five weeks and then and then you didn't take the
Atlanta And that's not the keV I funk with Kevin.
Kevin has always been supportive of me. I got the
hell of love for keV. But yeah, they walked me
into the office and I met with everybody, and you know,
it was weird. I've been on Sony my whole life,
so it's like it's like it's like the NBA. It's like, damn,
this is what your facility look like like?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
What you think about like that time, like when o
Mario signed with MMG.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It was so like out yeah, but but it's like
you you go on with the love at like whoever
got the bag for you? Ever believe in you, ever
gonna put it put on like you know, put up
for you so you can get that look.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
But I was so close.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And I remember sitting in there in that meeting at
Atlantic and they said, you know, what's the one thing
that you know that that that you that you don't
like or like, what what do you are you hesitant about?
And I said, the only thing is I mean, this
is great. I said, the only thing is you know,
every time I get with a label, you know what
I'm saying that for some reason, I fall in love
with the team that I meet and I get to
(28:10):
work my projects. And then during the project, everyone gets fired.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That happens a lot. I guess what happened after I
left out the meeting they got fired Kevin.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I was left Atlantic.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oh that's like I was, like, what it sucks to you?
I mean like your bow wow? So you have like history.
But there's like this new artists whoill get signed, who
are trying to build their career and then like the
whole team that believed them is just out and like
it's like it's like football. Yeah, it's like bro, Yes,
they're gonna want to draft their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yes, And you got a GM and you got a
personal label that love you. Whatever you got I'm talking about,
treat you right like everything. And then all of a
sudden you walk down.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I got this dude. You're like, man, it's like the
same I want to shake man, I got your funk
out of here? How can I get out of content?
And we all on the contract.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
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a lot of people hated Tokyo Drift, but it's aged
so well, and I feel like it's it's uh, it's
(30:46):
kind of like it's it's like appreciated now. Yeah, it's
aged correct time, Like yeah, you're you know, like for
you like when you're doing Tokyo Drift, it's kind of
like it's there's no Vin Diesel in the movie.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
It's like to the end, right, But it's like Wire
season two if anybody's ever watched it, you know, like
it's it's but it's but it was different.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, it was different because.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Now we you know, anytime something is new, it's hard
to to accept it, Like it takes time. Right, It's
like a new album that ship might not knock too
but any more you listen, like, no, ashly, this shit
is hard, you know what I mean. So that's kind
of like how it was an't nobody know nothing about drifting.
It was a world of you know, it was a
new thing. Now you're talking to they haven't drift racing.
It's drift everything. Like it's a style. You know what
I'm saying that once casts caught onto it, then it
(31:30):
became what it is. You know what I'm saying It
Like you said, you got so many elements in that
movie that became icnact a hawk car. It's like, damn,
I'm the only person in fast history that don't got
a fast car like it's you know, And I didn't
even know how to drive that motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I was on set burning the clutch, fucking it up.
I couldn't drive it.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
If you don't know how to drive, stick bro, I couldn't. Yeah,
that's that's fucking rough. I'm like, this is terrible.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And I didn't tell them. I ain't tell just the
leader director, right. I ain't even tell them that because
I thought, man, I might not get the gonna say ship.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
They ain't realize that. They said, all right, ready action.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
They're like, did y'all cue bow wow? Man, I'm coming
to that motherfucker like this just shutting down every take.
I'm like, now I can't drive. We gonna have to
pull some we gotta push this motherfucker something.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
What do you think is your best movie? And what
do you think is your worst movie?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Best movie?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Mm hm, that's tough.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Roll bounce, yeah, roll bounce worst movie. I feel like
any actor can can they know? I've seen Eddie Murphy
name his everybody named Kevin Harten's name is.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Told me his his was, uh, well, ghost on Mars,
which is fucking horrible.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's what he said for real, for real Ghost on
Mars as well. For me, I'm gonna have to go with.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I ain't gonna I ain't got none. The Allegiance movie
was rough.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yes, I'll give you that one, a straight one. I
didn't like. I didn't like how we shot it.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Was that that was the straight Z DVD guy right.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
No stream. I didn't like how we shot it. I
didn't like the tent on it. It was dark. It
was just it was something. Bro. Let me tell you,
I'm glad you brought that movie up. That she was brutal.
It's fun to shoot bro. No trailers because they want
us to really like it was an army. There was
no trade, there was no catering, no trailers, no catering.
It's and it was fucking freezing in New York.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
No, that sounds like some other ship was going on
bro freezing bro, Like we don't get the butt we
think getting all the money, we don't have money for gatering.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Our cribs was dope, but they really want us to
be like it was really in the Army, like y'all
gotta really live this ship, like there's nothing nice you
can't get.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I mean it was it was bro. That was that
was different. That was a different, that was different.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
What would be You've obviously been through so many ups
and downs in your way.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
What are you bullshitting?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Let me tell you what that motherfucking movie did spawn
a lot of fucking superstars.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Though. My boy, my boy west name who played doctor
Dre shout out of the Compton.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
He that was his first movie. He came out of
there because he went to Julliard. The the white boy
that played the art dude in the Army that was
kind of like the asshole. He blew the fuck up,
like out of blew up. So a lot of cats
came up out of there doing some big ship.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Ain't gonna lie shout out to uh, the guy who
played doctor Dre, he was in there and he did
some other ship, so he'd be nice. If we knew
his name, and I'm gonna look it up, he's gonna
be mad. Yeah, it's not too much of your dog.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
You know how everybody said that's my dog because I
did someone.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
But now shout out to bro Man even doing his
thug and he did a lot of other couple of
big movies.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
So yeah, for sure, talk to me man, Like when
it comes to like finance and like you've obviously I'm
sure ran through so much money and that done dumb
ship with it and fucked it off and done smart stuff.
What would be your number one advice piece of advice
when it comes to just you know, just financially man,
because you gotta kind of live through it as a kid,
(34:56):
I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah, everybody gonna tell you to save and invest, want
to invest? I mean, have your fun. I'm gonna tell
everybody have fun. You know what I'm saying. You got
one life to live. You don't know when you're gonna
go go if you can, if you can do it,
then go do it.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
That's what I love and you know, for me, I
just like that. That's that's safety blanket of I can
go do it if I want to, but I don't.
I don't have to do it, but I can go
do it like that's my comfortability. So I would just
tell them invest be smart, don't blow it all on
cars and shit like that. Uh, things depreciate, certain things
that hold their value. Buying an all go sixty thousand
dollars Rolex, that's a good purchase right there. Don't don't
(35:32):
flood it you already know. Don't bust it down. Keep
it just like that because in the day and things
go wrong you're getting it. That shit could go up
in price. It might be worth seventy five thousand another year,
just keep going up. So you got to just make
the smart, smart choice with your money.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Do you think you've wasted the most amount of money
on over the year cars? Cars?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah? Hell yeah cars, cars? Did it?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I spend like nine million on cars, expensive car, the
Phantom when it first came out.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
This man white Cliff told me last week he spent
like a even million dollars on a fucking McLaren.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah. See wild left Ben a McLaren driving motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
He was like the first person Clemmer rides magazine.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
He was the first person with mclar You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Are are you in Soldier Boy?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Good dog? Yeah, that's my dog. I talk the songs
every day.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
He's one of the most funny, hilarious, random dudes of
all time.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
But you know what if you kick it with Draco though,
he's very chill.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
No, he's like it's like when he gets on live
or it's like a fucking switch gets hit. I'm telling you,
it's like him and ray J have this thing where
you're like, if they're not like a camera, they're the
most chill bytherfucker. Then as soon as it's like, bro,
you've just got the ship figured out, bro, and I'll
be telling the songs.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I'm like, Bro, we just had this talk. He like,
I know, gay, Damn I should have did that. I'm like, nah,
you know what I'm saying, But that's my dog. Shout
to Draco.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Is it true you've never had pork or beef in
your life? Hell no, never had this shit, no red
meat ever. You've never eaten a steak, bro.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Somebody tried to have me try a burger last night. Bro.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
What ak?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
No? Bro, that looks crazy?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
What the fuck the best.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Food in the world.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
There's no way I'm missing out. Bro.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
What do you eat? Chicken, chicken, seafood and turkey?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah? I guess that's why you still look like you're
fucking seventeen.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I'm telling you, bro, beef, Bro, I can't do that.
Shit bleed like us, bread and shit. But they say
it ain't blood.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
You know what they said. It's not blood, it's something else,
but it's blood to me. Fuck that.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So you've never had a cheeseburger, no turkey burger, so
you've like you got to go have a marathon burger, man,
I have marathon to day, you know, Like, would you
get the fucking impossible joint?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Noh? I got the fried shrimp, fried chicken, sandwarch and wings.
Damn yep. Good, you got a chicken sandwich and some
fish burger.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Were you born in eighty seven?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Oh, so we're the same age, So we're both I
just turned thirty nine yesterday.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
So so you got you you ordered me by what's
on the way.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It's like, I feel like you could still be typecasted
as a high school kid though.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Oh that's a fact.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
You've like you age like.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Pharrell yeah, and and Lorena's tate. It's like three of us.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, it's like you still look the same, like three
of us. All right, well, look, I know you gotta
go the tour. When's the tour kickoff to.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Off Mark six, Louisville, Kentucky CAFC. I'm sinning and then
you know, you know, we're making our way to every
arena across the nation. Man, So I can't wake make
sure I'll get your tickets. It's gonna be crazy. Walk
on that motherfuckers locker.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Jeremiah Young, Josh Crime franchise.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Boys, Yep, you're pretty Ricky.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yep, you can make love, fight and everything all the
above with all that too, Yeah, damn yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I just want to see her legs.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I mean, look, man, that uh that video was iconic
back in the day.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Boy, I mean, I want to ask you if she
is her legs when we worth a million dollars because
they say that she got her legs and you know,
at one point she had the best legs in the game.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Oh, like I think she had might have got an
insurance policy, yeah, a million.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Over million dollars on her legs or some crazy ship.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, I'm sure. I mean yeah, dude, Uh shouts about wow, man,
this guy a legend. Uh you b two k boys
for Boys for Life tour, sir. And then you say
you have three projects. On the three projects my album,
the Tree Songs album. There's another album with Trey songs.
All right, Kevin says that album is coming. He said
that that's nice. And then another album. And I just
(39:18):
started on that one. It's just one of my homies.
Just like Yo, you gotta make a whole album songs
just like these. I was all right, I'll do eight
songs like this. So like with the producer, Nope, like
maybe like you and hit Boy or something or not
this one. I'm just right now.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I ain't a lot a lot of producer I work with,
they overseas. I ain't gonna lie to a lot of
these guys that's producing.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
They overseas.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
You get the YouTube type beats going.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Bro, that's where I find them, bro, not bro. Run
that ship up, bro, And people don't understand like that
soldier found them.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Just what beat she make it? Clap beat on them? Bro.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Meek Mill then caught a lot of.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Beats off you.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
What was that dude's name? Eight cash money ap Yep, dude,
he blew up the fuck up YouTube like, and I
don't blame him. Like I met that dude and like
he had the craziest European accent and I was like,
I was like, oh, you're that bro ship. It fucks
you up, bro, But that's how fine cast.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
And it's dope because these the cast has be like
be behind the ship or they be the next whatever
and then all out. And I'm fair like, I hate
when they put free next to they ship. I don't
believe that a lot of these cats gonna take the
ship and really run it up like it's free. Nah, bro,
I'm gonna hit you in the DM. I need your
people to hit my people. I need the stems.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
We gotta mix. We got a master.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
And then they be so grateful and thankful because they
be like, damn, I never thought you was gonna reach
out and try to like, nah, bro, we want to
we want to pay you.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
I want to make sure you good. I wanna MAKEU
you eat?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Is JD got any stuff on the new album you
guys saying you and Yeah we're gonna we're getting yes
from the team moment Yes on one of the albums,
Yes them. Yeah, yeah, he's on one of them. Nice
all right, man, I look forward to you and Uh
and Trey bringing back that fucking two thousands, one six.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
That's crazy. Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Between the two of you guys. You guys are fucked.
Everyone's girls in the game and uh, you know, shout
out to Trey songs. Enough Boutwow, listen to tour is
going to be amazing Boys for life. Starting Mars six,
we are six, we outside no Phoenix date. That's full show.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I've been saying that crazy Wow, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Come on baby all the time. That h
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
Bow Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Shout tom Ca, what up? What yes, sir? The last
time we spoke was DM We argued about it.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Hey, I'm glad you want to start you want to
start off start off with Let's start off with it.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Come on this shout to Ray Daniels, who went viral
for his ridiculous comment about you being bigger than jay Z.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Out of conversation with him too. When he said out,
I called him. I was like, man, what what do
you starting?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Man?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You know this bout Now you gotta because now you
got to hear about it.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
But what's crazy is like when he said it, you know,
everybody making valid points, and I'm just like, I'm like, bro,
I'm like, man, you're really gonna start up something because
all my fans and the younger generationals say he is, Yeah,
I don't see it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
That you're gonna have the older cats like a certain
demo of kids.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It's the biggest.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
But I understood what he was coming from once he
explained it. It's like we ain't talking about who's the
best rapper? I said, all right, we ain't talking about that.
We're talking about we're talking about popularity contest. For that time,
it was a different type of way with me, you
know what I'm saying, Like like Mike was, like Mike
was out sending out Arenas selling out the Garden two
(01:51):
times in one year, sold Out the Garden was six
seven times.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It is a lot, you know what I'm saying. But
I understood he was saying.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
But it's like, I'm like, do you agree with him?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't know because because when we had the conversation,
I was like said, man, you don't understand because it's you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
You don't see it.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
But then everybody else is like, now you got a
valid point. I don't want hear none of that ship, like,
we don't hear. We don't want hear skill for school.
We talked about celebrity. Nigga, you had a TV show, Nigga,
you was with Madonna, Like, Nigga, what is you saying? Like, Nigga,
you were just.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Talking about it?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Like I don't think people remember there's like the deluxe
version of your debut I'm a video game on where
you'reright on a scooter.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, like like like ship like that just went viral
for no reason.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'm like, all right, that, Like that's just crazy, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Then working with Beyonce before whole work with Beyonce, it's
just a lot, but it's so many things. But at
the same time, I'm like, man, we different artists, we
make different music and different walks of life. It's it's
really like a weird comparison, but he knew what he
was doing when he did it, because he knew that
was gonna spark convo. But I ain't really feed into
it like that though. I don't only be caring about
it like that.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
When you're a little kid and you have to do
the classroom skin on doggie style, tell me about that
studio session, because that's what's crazy. That's like one of
the most iconic skits ever.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And I'm all three kids soon.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Oh so you're fucking like I want to be a firefighter.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, I want a police officer. And you in the
back with the French braide.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That was my That was my mom's boyfriend's homeboy who
did that part, played the teacher and then you know
Snoop tell the story too, like man, but I was
all the characters nigga, that little nigga was acting before
he was way back.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah. So but that was.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Crazy to go to my mom to say, can you
say motherfucker? And she was like, I said, well, you
know he's playing a little Snoop, So it's this is
what Snoop would say. So I got away with with
the whole skit thing.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That was before you like like had started like recording
with death Brow. Yep, you just pulled up because you
like got got picked out.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, in my hometown Columbus, Ohio, rapping god rested so
A J. Johnson, you know, play plays there Friday.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I got the hook up.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I got the hook up all that, you know what
I'm saying. He was he was the MC, he was
the host of the Chronic tour. And I'm in the
audience and he picked me. Got there, got on the stage,
start rapping.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Should change your life?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Changed it? Yeah, it was over.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Dads came and got me, and them came and got me.
DJ Jam all of them came and got me. Put
me to the back resident at dethro.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Right, because if you're a little kid, so I'm assuming
like all the crazy like studio stories we hear about
those days, yeah, they probably weren't in the middle of
a bunch of crazy shit knowing that there was a
child around.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah nah, I was around though, Like I was around,
but like sugaring them did a good job me though,
like certain things I wasn't invited to.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
But also I was still the kids.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
So I was just running around a little montros with
you know, all the the mantros was popping back in La.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
That was the pop I want till all the celebrities stay.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
At and so for me, like ABC would be there, Kirk,
like I was just I was just one of the kids.
Like I wasn't really like I said, I was around
for everything, but if it was crazy, I couldn't go
to parties, defro parties and stuff like that. Me mainly
is video sets, studios and like shows. They had shows,
and shit.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Did they ever try to like I feel like back
then it would have been the very sug night thing
to do to try to like get you to discriss
cross or something. Nah, he never did.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
He never did.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
He never did, never did, or they were beeven with
Easy Heavy at that time.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Correct, Yeah, hell yeah, it was on like when that
was happening. That's when I got on the label. That's
when that happened. And then setting label for a little minute.
Then they then they told me that I'm about to
start working on this Murder was the case album. We
got this movie coming out, and he's gonna do the soundtrack.
Just's be the perfect thing to launch a little bio.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I'm only gonna put your cussing like a psychopath.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
You ever heard the records? Yeah, that's corrupt, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And then you say, funk a lot for a little kid.
Do you know this verse?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Still? Yeah, since trade zero am on and now wait.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
For you sound like a four.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
But my cadence though you Snoop Snoop version is on YouTube,
like he laid the reference.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yo shout out to Snoop. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna
make this little kid cuss man.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
No, I'll tell you what I probably woudn't be saying
with you right now. I continue it down that we.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
See that path hit a wall every time it was over.
I know, look, did it right?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He was like, you know, I wasn't in a proper
place mentally and in the label wise, you know his
situation with Deffo at the time, and he was kind
of like, I can't have no kid around this shit.
I got to put him with a motherfucker I could trust.
Motherfucker's really gonna take care of me because motherfucker's a superstar.
He just need the right person with him.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And boom. JD.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, it's crazy because I can imagine, like I think
JD is the most underrated executive producer, writer, I feel
like he just doesn't. I mean I interviewed him earlier
or late late last year he.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Had the war. Uh no No.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
I interviewed him in that New York when he was
promote the album, and I was like, dude, like, I
don't I know that there was like this versus talk.
I'm like, I really don't know who what do you
play after? If you're going against JD after he plays Confessions?
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, you got to make
sure you got a producer. I got some ship.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
He's just one of them ones. And you know what.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
But but for you to be able to kind of
come up and be around the golden era of West
Coast hip hop, if we think about Death Row and
then going and working with So So Deaf, which is
its own juggernaut, Man, what is like the contrast, like
the big difference between the two situations because he had
already did with Chriss Cross.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
You ain't got worried abut geting fucked up. If you
fuck up on a world on your rap, you know
what I'm saying, You ain't gotta walk on eggs shields
around the studio. It was definitely a culture shock for
me because I didn't know who JD was at all.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
You gotta think when they came to Columbus and found me.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I was five one on six. I finished out the
tour and came right to La So I was West
Coast out. I didn't know no East Coast rappers, no
down South rappers, no nothing. And I and I really
did not like Criscross because they were so big at
the time, I felt like that was supposed.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
To be me, your competition.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, there you go. So yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So getting to Atlanta, man, that was a whole culture
shock finding out who Jermaine was.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
And then I'm like, oh, this is due that found
that put on Chriscross the world will right in my.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Mind, I'm like, I'm supposed to ride it out with
Snooping to the to the casket drop.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's how it's supposed to go. But you know, Snoop
was right.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Jermaine had the tools, he had to the plan and
he knew exactly what to do, you know, and and
he did it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
When you were working on Beware of Dog, do you
guys like understand like you're a kid, obviously, but I
mean you got some big record. I mean this this
album was.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
A four times, four times platinum.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Now, yeah, as a kid, do you have any idea like, oh, ship,
like we got some ship, like this ship's gonna nope.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, they like, oh you he's platinum. Oh he's double platinum.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Okay, oh he's triple plattum Now okay, now we just
got certified last year four times. So I'm like, all
right now I know the significance. But at first, Hell now,
I'm just all I want to do is just be
a kid and get girls and get money and buy Jerseys.
I wouldn't even want to catch Jersey on the cover.
Come on there all the time, Jesus. Yeah, are you
a Browns fan?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
No, not at all. A Falcon fan?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
That's about to say, man, Falcons for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But I support your Door though, I mean yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
I hope they figure that out because I think he's cool.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, we got the fans getting Atlanta now, so you know,
we give him a chance. I don't really rock how
you traded Door and all that.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But hey, he's gonna do the same thing with Michael
Pennix Junior.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I know he is, thank you, I know he is cook.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I might get ready bro, get ready shot to be
John Robinson, the best playing the league, best running back
in the league. Yeah, for sure, got that. Talk to
me about this tour man, you and B two K.
You guys are getting getting there. I mean obviously they're
literally getting the group back together. Uh, but you guys
are kind of synonymous with each other.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Yeah, and I think it's a BT wave, the one
of parkwave with you guys.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Most definitely just a full circle moment, you know what
I mean twenty five years ago with twenty four years
ago looking back first Arena tour, you know what I mean,
the boys was there and now we're looking up. Like
I said, twenty four years later, we here now still
doing it, you know. Me and Trey Songs has come
up with a successful tour last year, and the year
before that was another one. The year before that, everybody
(09:53):
on that tour. It's been like five millennium tours. But
in the past seven years, like we've just been cooking.
And so it's definitely a blessing to be able to
do it with, you know, tour with guys that you
started out with and being at that big gap of
twenty four years was in the middle of Now we
look and we're here because I don't know no artists
who can say that type of shit like yo, start
out O two now twenty twenty six, were about to
(10:14):
do it again, like it's just one of them tours.
You're gonna have to see if you're a part of
that era. You're a part of that that that type
of vibe and you grew up with us our day
once and some shit you don't want to see because
you don't know if you're ever gonna get this line
up again.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Could this spark another face Off album?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It could, but I I already got an album that
came with somebody though.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Really New Trey Songs, that makes sense. Shout out to
a New Tree Songs album about on the way.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You see how we just guessed things because he just
got off tour with them all last year, So would
only makes sense. You guys work on an album on
the bus?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You're a cold, motherfucker cold. That'd be fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Right here.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, we got we got some we got some things cooking,
bab we go out have some fun though, three three projects.
It's time, man, you know, just torn for the pasting
has been in front of the fans. Man, it's like
we said, down these arenas well. I gotta I gotta
put the gout, put some music out.
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All let's get back to the podcast. So I gotta
ask you, man, because you always kind of like came
off as like an entertainer to like dusty old hip
hop heads like me, and then you go on this
like run where you start like caring about like showing
people you could really spit, and you were dropping mixtapes.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
And shit, green lights and all that.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, was that like something that was important to you?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
It was because no matter what, like like if j
D JD. I've seen JD say like, man Bow I
was a rapper. Man, I don't know him. Like if
you don't know Bo, if you ain't kicked doing him,
shut the fuck up. You just don't know him because
Bo is a rapper first, like and it's the truth,
like like I come from death Row. That's the DNA.
(14:39):
Like I'm a real rap like a historian. I lift
this hip hop shit. I breathed it, you know what
I'm saying. Like my favorite movie is Breaking on the
break into like I live this shit. I love hip hop,
And for me it was important because that dog is
always gonna be in me. If you're a rapper, they
know what I'm talking about. That dog gonna always be
in you to the point where you know, you gotta
(15:00):
show motherfuckers Like, man, I'm really like that, Like I
can go like, I don't know what the fuck out
And your favorite rapper came up under up on bow
Wow and what was a fan of bow Wow? Like
this is facts, you know what I'm saying, Like straight facts.
So for me, it's like, yeah, it's important because I
got to show them what it is, and and over
and over the course of my career, I have whether
that's the you know, rap city basement freestyles, jumping in there,
(15:22):
making them legendary joints, mixtapes like you said, or just
throwing it out there just to do it.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Just it.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
It's a sport, it's fun, you know what I mean.
Just shoving up the skills. That's what that shit really mean.
That's what it's all about to me. But it's definitely
important though.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
You have one of the most legendary rosters of famous
women that you've been in relationships with or you know,
pooled around with. Yeah, what if you learned from like
being in public situations with another famous person.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
That you like, I hate it?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, I hate it now because I lived and I
done it, And I like, how peaceful my life is
when the girls not famous? So I get away with
more shit, So like I can get away with a
lot of I could live my life. Let's say it's
tough when you're both famous.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Is it hard for you to find women that aren't
in the club all the time because you're in the
club all the time? I quit, good, bro, listen the club.
There was a scott Stale run that this motherfucker had
yo or we had him an international like every fucking
fucking forty days. And eventually eventually they were like, hey,
we want to book Bowo And I'm like, dude, he's
(16:24):
cooked in the market fifty times. We can't pay when
he wants anymore.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Remember that, Bro, I was like, yo, No, it was crazy.
I was like, I was the Scottsdale so and hey,
I'll put you on the Skuys. Then what I kept
telling you, I said, well, I'm out there, heavy, heavy,
i'ven been in a long long time.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Well, yeah, put the club. Are you a pink rhino
guy when you were out there Jaguars?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I went to Jags one time. Yeah, to pink. I
might have been the pink was a while ago.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
But for me, like Atlanta with the Mecca Strip club.
Of course, you know what I'm saying. We get butt
ass snagging in Atlanta. So when I got it every thing.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, when I go out of town, when you got
an asshole flaying around your face.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I'll trying to sell you. So when you go out
of time, you hit some of these clubs, these trip
clubs is just not the same.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You like pasties, that's there's a New York cities like that.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah, but see New York, the girls just so damn fine,
like you don't even care. You go to Starlars to
be at the bar, just not caring, just giving her
all your money. It's about the bartenders, the bartenders, yes,
and the Atlanta is about the dances.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Do you like?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Like what was the thing that inspired you to be
like I got to quit the club?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
My team, my manager him, just you know, enlightening me
and letting me know, like yo, like bro, everybody gives
you the goat, stamp, legend all that shit, but you
got to really act like want to walk on like
now you're grown down, expose yourself over, expose yourself. So
I want you to look at some of your closest piers.
The only time they hit the club is when they
(17:59):
on tour. I never really see them. You got to
be like that. I know they giving you good money
and all that, but sometimes I need you to fall
back can get what you really want to get. And
that saved me because I really do enjoy not going.
I don't know the last time I've been.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
To a club. That's I mean, dude, you ain't asked
me to do our party. I party like a motherfucker.
I know you fucking did. I just don't just at
the arabn be there. I just don't go to the club.
I don't go to the breaking club to you there
you go. I just feel like there's I just know,
I feel like I know the kind of women in
Arizona you've hung out with, and I'm like, I just
hope you're finding like I don't know where you're going
(18:33):
to find the accountant or like the teacher that you need.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
You know, like oh that nurses good good? Okay, definitely
definitely definitely, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Because it's like, you know, there's just I just feel
like there's like a roster of like fifty chicks that
everyone has fucked on the West Coast. Yeah, and it's
it's kind of crazy. I see like like NBA players
fighting with rappers over like a bitch. That like that's
a fact that like everyone has fucked. That's a fact
except me. I'm married.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
That's a fact that goes on.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Motherfuckers really have beef like over like girls that.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Don't even belong to them, like prostitutes that don't belong
to them at all.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I tell these bitches, I'm like, you're a fucking prostitute.
You you're literally fucking for money.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah it might not be.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You don't got a fucking a. I don't even think crazy.
This is a thing.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
No, I just say some ship. I just seen some
ship on the way here. Motherfuckers sliding the girl DM
the girl DM him back full menu. I never saw
no shit like this is my life. Four thousand overnight
is four thousand.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Uh, A girlfriend is one hundred dollars. I guess.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
I mean, I'm gonna act like I'm your girlfriend to
level you up a little bit. You can bring me
around your boys and make I'm gonna make you look
good type shit. I've never seen that type of shit
like this over my life is crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
When you shoot to let me hold you video and
you do the thing?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, can you do it?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Do you understand? Like how viral of a moment that
that's like gonna live in infamy for ah. Yeah, it's iconic.
So I gotta do it in the show. If I
don't it, I don't. If if I don't do it,
it's because I'm watching them do it. They do it,
and if I don't do it, they get pissed, like
I gotta do it. Yeah, gotta do it. I mean, dude,
it's iconic, and I do it. What is the single
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song of yours that you are the most tired of?
Bounce with Me?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
That checks out. Bounce with me for the first one.
Oh my god, Then that's the one. What about a
song that you hated that ended up being a hit.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh, A couple of those?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, what song? Weren't you crazy?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh? I think they like me?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Oh ship? I mean that was that was a Socio
that record, right, Yeah, I thought it was a whack
of shit ever heard you know that whole era of Like,
I thought it was a wack of like the shop Boys,
and then I thought it was the what And it
goes back to.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Me telling you I am hip hop. I don't.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I didn't understand did at the point, I know Pimy
gonna be loud becauseiming knows is the true shouts of French.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I wasn't it my broke?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
They got joints for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
And and when I got the record, Jermaine send me
the record.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I was hearing that, like Jermaine flew out LA to
make sure I did it because he knows me, Like
b I don't want to fucking.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Do the record, fucking gotta go out here to make
sure he does it.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Bro I kid you not. I'm like, I don't understand this.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
These motherfuckers keep saying the same fucking word over and
over in the fucking hook man, Like, what is this?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
This ship is not what I'm accustomed to?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
For sure? So I do the verse.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I was so mad.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
I did the verse one time, and that's the version
that the whole world and herd and I walked up
the studio and the left I said, JD, that's the verse.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I don't give a fuck you good figure it out.
I'm done.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
That's all you're getting from me. And then it blew up.
When number one, I'm like okayybody, like, that's the hardest
verse battle I ever spent this nigga spitting onder twenty
one with the Black cart Oh hell, I'm like, oh shit,
if y'all fuck with it, I fuck with it too.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But I was one shorty like mom was another one,
another number.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It wasn't like it.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
It was.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
It was a Chris Brown record at first, one hundred percent.
It was all Chris and I'm coming off with fresh
as I'm mad.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
So I'm punk sure that's my favorite, so you feel
me bro pumped, I'm like j I was like slap.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I just did the show with Game Wayne t I nigga,
what nigga?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I need like eight more of these.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I'm Jay Kwan on that yep said I'm hanging with
these niggas now.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Ja Kwan. That hood hot beat was crazy. But know
where he's at right now. But it was with Nelly
moving shout to Jkwan. He caught the Shaboozie joint.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
That that ship's crazy, bro.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You know what thing I like about Kwano He caught
that and then got his got his Grammy or something.
It got his got his got got the pubbish, all
that crazy ship.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But then once that happened. He been on the road now,
no stop like Nellie was really yeah, Nellie knocked down.
Nellie's definitely looking out for Kuwana. That's a good look.
Shout at the Kwan man.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
That's the bro.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Saint Louis.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
What up did you and when you and here were
dating back in the day, did you guys ever think
about doing like a joint album? No, I never cross
because you guys got this giant record.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Ye never crossed? Has it ever? Has there ever been a?
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, Big Sean and Janey I they did. They might
have been the first. Huh was that the first? Well,
didn't crazy fucking Beyonce do an album?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Nope? They just did a tour together.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah they did the tour.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, yeah, they might be the first.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Didn't they do an album?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Nah? Yeah, they got songs together with no album. I'm tripping.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I thought they did it like a I just didn't
give a fuck up on the run.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh we both confused.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
They did some ship. Just know that they did some ship.
But no, no, it wasn't a thought that that that
came to mind. Though.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
At what point in time do you realize you win?
The little Romeo beef as a kid.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
What's crazy is I never beef with Rome.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Was it just the fans that made it a thing?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
The fans made it a thing because I said the
line in Friends of Them is eighteen nigga making money
your dad.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
In reality, people don't know that's not even my bar.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Eighteen nigga making money your dad. If I'm not mistaken,
I believe that's either l or Rock Kim said that.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
So that's what we got.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
The line form like an homage.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I think it's LX call me about everybody in the
common y'all can correct me, but I think it's l
L that said the eighteen they making money your dad,
and that was you know it was.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It was a dope line. That's how I felt.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I feel like all the young cats, you know, all
they girls like me, and there was just a proper
flex to pop it back on their on their little
boyfriends and I'm eighteen, They're gonna make it money your daddy.
But the people took that like, oh, he gotta be
talking about him become my master. Yeah, And I'm like,
I love Pete growing up, like I got the hook
of everything that he ever did. Bro, Like I'm a
real hip hop baby, Like I respect P I love
(24:37):
pl love everything he did for the culture. First motherfucker,
I know who really made a honey m's off this ship?
Like I respect that after Trunk too, Like that's tough.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
What was the name of Masterpiece little kid group?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Like the toy So and Little So Little Soldier? Yeah, yeah,
yep yo.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I would set you no limonhead. I took my brod
money and bought that terrible bro the clothing, I had,
the shoes, he did it, he did it. I had
the ch over chain to turn green. It was like
fourteen dollars at the moment.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yeah, I'll never be for wrongan uh No, I shot
the wrong and you know that's my guy.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Man, cool cool, cool dude. So, like you said, obviously
you got a trade song's joint album coming out. I
mean you said that, I said it, and you kind
of confirmed it.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I didn't.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I confirmed it, No, you kind of did. But whatever,
it's fine. Was there ever a joint album that almost
happened that just for whatever reason, never came out? Me
and Chris That makes sense. Mans had a fucking great
record last year.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Me and Brown Men. Thanks Bro, Me and Brown.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Wait right around the time we did face off, because
then I had signed a deal where I had I
had signed it, I was already going on tour with
Chris and I was trying to fit Oh in my
shows because it makes sense. I was like, we can
use this tour it when you know, promoted album whatnot.
And I remember Old Old did some of the dates
with me, and I just remember Chris saying, like, man,
(25:59):
why aren't you called? We could have just knock one out.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Bro just did this shit. I'm like, what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Like we already got like twelve thirteen songs anyway, we
could just pull together.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
But he definitely told me, like, man, you could just
called me. Man, we could have did it. But I
will say this man, me and oh we make some magic.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
The album you know, damn they're about to be certified
platinum now is already gold.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
But and we and we did numbers off that thing.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
And you know, like I said, I don't take nothing back,
but that would have been cool though, to get one
in with Brown, that would have been hard.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Do you just have like this wild like just hard
drive is just unrelea shit that we'll ever hear. Now,
y'all gonna hear it. Okay, y'all gonna hear it for sure.
For sure, who beside obviously you you do the socio
deaf thing, and there was a point in time where
you were off so so deaf, right yep? What was
the like, was there ever a deal you almost like
(26:46):
did Like I'm sure everybody's trying to sign you. What
was the closest you know, you were to signing maybe
to another situation with somebody we might.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Know, Atlantic Atlantic, That makes sense. Kevin lows I was shocking.
I was right there in the meeting, and you know,
he was managing me at the time, and he was
managing everybody. He was managing Mike Posner and managed like
(27:13):
five weeks and then and then you didn't take the
Atlanta And that's not the keV I funk with Kevin.
Kevin has always been supportive of me. I got the
hell of love for keV. But yeah, they walked me
into the office and I met with everybody, and you know,
it was weird. I've been on Sony my whole life,
so it's like it's like it's like the NBA. It's like, damn,
this is what your facility look like like?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
What you think about like that time, like when o
Mario signed with MMG.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
It was so like out yeah, but but it's like
you you go on with the love at like whoever
got the bag for you? Ever believe in you, ever
gonna put it put on like you know, put up
for you so you can get that look.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
But I was so close.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And I remember sitting in there in that meeting at
Atlantic and they said, you know, what's the one thing
that you know that that that you that you don't
like or like, what what do you are you hesitant about?
And I said, the only thing is I mean, this
is great. I said, the only thing is you know,
every time I get with a label, you know what
I'm saying that for some reason, I fall in love
with the team that I meet and I get to
(28:10):
work my projects. And then during the project, everyone gets fired.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That happens a lot. I guess what happened after I
left out the meeting they got fired Kevin.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I was left Atlantic.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Oh that's like I was, like, what it sucks to you?
I mean like your bow wow? So you have like history.
But there's like this new artists whoill get signed, who
are trying to build their career and then like the
whole team that believed them is just out and like
it's like it's like football. Yeah, it's like bro, Yes,
they're gonna want to draft their quarterback.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yes, And you got a GM and you got a
personal label that love you. Whatever you got I'm talking about,
treat you right like everything. And then all of a
sudden you walk down.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
I got this dude. You're like, man, it's like the
same I want to shake man, I got your funk
out of here? How can I get out of content?
And we all on the contract.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
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three three three call Raffi. You were in at the time,
a lot of people hated Tokyo Drift, but it's aged
so well, and I feel like it's it's uh, it's
(30:46):
kind of like it's it's like appreciated now. Yeah, it's
aged correct time, Like yeah, you're you know, like for
you like when you're doing Tokyo Drift, it's kind of
like it's there's no Vin Diesel in the movie.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
It's like to the end, right, But it's like Wire
season two if anybody's ever watched it, you know, like
it's it's but it's but it was different.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah, it was different because.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Now we you know, anytime something is new, it's hard
to to accept it, Like it takes time. Right, It's
like a new album that ship might not knock too
but any more you listen, like, no, ashly, this shit
is hard, you know what I mean. So that's kind
of like how it was an't nobody know nothing about drifting.
It was a world of you know, it was a
new thing. Now you're talking to they haven't drift racing.
It's drift everything. Like it's a style. You know what
I'm saying that once casts caught onto it, then it
(31:30):
became what it is. You know what I'm saying It
Like you said, you got so many elements in that
movie that became icnact a hawk car. It's like, damn,
I'm the only person in fast history that don't got
a fast car like it's you know, And I didn't
even know how to drive that motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I was on set burning the clutch, fucking it up.
I couldn't drive it.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
If you don't know how to drive, stick bro, I couldn't. Yeah,
that's that's fucking rough. I'm like, this is terrible.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
And I didn't tell them. I ain't tell just the
leader director, right. I ain't even tell them that because
I thought, man, I might not get the gonna say ship.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
They ain't realize that. They said, all right, ready action.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
They're like, did y'all cue bow wow? Man, I'm coming
to that motherfucker like this just shutting down every take.
I'm like, now I can't drive. We gonna have to
pull some we gotta push this motherfucker something.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
What do you think is your best movie? And what
do you think is your worst movie?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Best movie?
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Mm hm, that's tough.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Roll bounce, yeah, roll bounce worst movie. I feel like
any actor can can they know? I've seen Eddie Murphy
name his everybody named Kevin Harten's name is.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Told me his his was, uh, well, ghost on Mars,
which is fucking horrible.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
That's what he said for real, for real Ghost on
Mars as well. For me, I'm gonna have to go with.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I ain't gonna I ain't got none. The Allegiance movie
was rough.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yes, I'll give you that one, a straight one. I
didn't like. I didn't like how we shot it.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Was that that was the straight Z DVD guy right.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
No stream. I didn't like how we shot it. I
didn't like the tent on it. It was dark. It
was just it was something. Bro. Let me tell you,
I'm glad you brought that movie up. That she was brutal.
It's fun to shoot bro. No trailers because they want
us to really like it was an army. There was
no trade, there was no catering, no trailers, no catering.
It's and it was fucking freezing in New York.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
No, that sounds like some other ship was going on
bro freezing bro, Like we don't get the butt we
think getting all the money, we don't have money for gatering.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Our cribs was dope, but they really want us to
be like it was really in the Army, like y'all
gotta really live this ship, like there's nothing nice you
can't get.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I mean it was it was bro. That was that
was different. That was a different, that was different.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
What would be You've obviously been through so many ups
and downs in your way.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
What are you bullshitting?
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Let me tell you what that motherfucking movie did spawn
a lot of fucking superstars.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Though. My boy, my boy west name who played doctor
Dre shout out of the Compton.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
He that was his first movie. He came out of
there because he went to Julliard. The the white boy
that played the art dude in the Army that was
kind of like the asshole. He blew the fuck up,
like out of blew up. So a lot of cats
came up out of there doing some big ship.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Ain't gonna lie shout out to uh, the guy who
played doctor Dre, he was in there and he did
some other ship, so he'd be nice. If we knew
his name, and I'm gonna look it up, he's gonna
be mad. Yeah, it's not too much of your dog.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
You know how everybody said that's my dog because I
did someone.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
But now shout out to bro Man even doing his
thug and he did a lot of other couple of
big movies.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
So yeah, for sure, talk to me man, Like when
it comes to like finance and like you've obviously I'm
sure ran through so much money and that done dumb
ship with it and fucked it off and done smart stuff.
What would be your number one advice piece of advice
when it comes to just you know, just financially man,
because you gotta kind of live through it as a kid,
(34:56):
I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah, everybody gonna tell you to save and invest, want
to invest? I mean, have your fun. I'm gonna tell
everybody have fun. You know what I'm saying. You got
one life to live. You don't know when you're gonna
go go if you can, if you can do it,
then go do it.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
That's what I love and you know, for me, I
just like that. That's that's safety blanket of I can
go do it if I want to, but I don't.
I don't have to do it, but I can go
do it like that's my comfortability. So I would just
tell them invest be smart, don't blow it all on
cars and shit like that. Uh, things depreciate, certain things
that hold their value. Buying an all go sixty thousand
dollars Rolex, that's a good purchase right there. Don't don't
(35:32):
flood it you already know. Don't bust it down. Keep
it just like that because in the day and things
go wrong you're getting it. That shit could go up
in price. It might be worth seventy five thousand another year,
just keep going up. So you got to just make
the smart, smart choice with your money.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Do you think you've wasted the most amount of money
on over the year cars? Cars?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah? Hell yeah cars, cars? Did it?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I spend like nine million on cars, expensive car, the
Phantom when it first came out.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
This man white Cliff told me last week he spent
like a even million dollars on a fucking McLaren.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah. See wild left Ben a McLaren driving motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
He was like the first person Clemmer rides magazine.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
He was the first person with mclar You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Are are you in Soldier Boy?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Good dog? Yeah, that's my dog. I talk the songs
every day.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
He's one of the most funny, hilarious, random dudes of
all time.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
But you know what if you kick it with Draco though,
he's very chill.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
No, he's like it's like when he gets on live
or it's like a fucking switch gets hit. I'm telling you,
it's like him and ray J have this thing where
you're like, if they're not like a camera, they're the
most chill bytherfucker. Then as soon as it's like, bro,
you've just got the ship figured out, bro, and I'll
be telling the songs.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I'm like, Bro, we just had this talk. He like,
I know, gay, Damn I should have did that. I'm like, nah,
you know what I'm saying, But that's my dog. Shout
to Draco.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Is it true you've never had pork or beef in
your life? Hell no, never had this shit, no red
meat ever. You've never eaten a steak, bro.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Somebody tried to have me try a burger last night. Bro.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
What ak?
Speaker 2 (37:09):
No? Bro, that looks crazy?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
What the fuck the best.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Food in the world.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
There's no way I'm missing out. Bro.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
What do you eat? Chicken, chicken, seafood and turkey?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah? I guess that's why you still look like you're
fucking seventeen.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I'm telling you, bro, beef, Bro, I can't do that.
Shit bleed like us, bread and shit. But they say
it ain't blood.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
You know what they said. It's not blood, it's something else,
but it's blood to me. Fuck that.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So you've never had a cheeseburger, no turkey burger, so
you've like you got to go have a marathon burger, man,
I have marathon to day, you know, Like, would you
get the fucking impossible joint?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Noh? I got the fried shrimp, fried chicken, sandwarch and wings.
Damn yep. Good, you got a chicken sandwich and some
fish burger.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Were you born in eighty seven?
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Oh, so we're the same age, So we're both I
just turned thirty nine yesterday.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
So so you got you you ordered me by what's
on the way.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
It's like, I feel like you could still be typecasted
as a high school kid though.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Oh that's a fact.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
You've like you age like.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Pharrell yeah, and and Lorena's tate. It's like three of us.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, it's like you still look the same, like three
of us. All right, well, look, I know you gotta
go the tour. When's the tour kickoff to.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Off Mark six, Louisville, Kentucky CAFC. I'm sinning and then
you know, you know, we're making our way to every
arena across the nation. Man, So I can't wake make
sure I'll get your tickets. It's gonna be crazy. Walk
on that motherfuckers locker.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Jeremiah Young, Josh Crime franchise.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Boys, Yep, you're pretty Ricky.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yep, you can make love, fight and everything all the
above with all that too, Yeah, damn yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
I just want to see her legs.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
I mean, look, man, that uh that video was iconic
back in the day.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Boy, I mean, I want to ask you if she
is her legs when we worth a million dollars because
they say that she got her legs and you know,
at one point she had the best legs in the game.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Oh, like I think she had might have got an
insurance policy, yeah, a million.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Over million dollars on her legs or some crazy ship.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah, I'm sure. I mean yeah, dude, Uh shouts about wow, man,
this guy a legend. Uh you b two k boys
for Boys for Life tour, sir. And then you say
you have three projects. On the three projects my album,
the Tree Songs album. There's another album with Trey songs.
All right, Kevin says that album is coming. He said
that that's nice. And then another album. And I just
(39:18):
started on that one. It's just one of my homies.
Just like Yo, you gotta make a whole album songs
just like these. I was all right, I'll do eight
songs like this. So like with the producer, Nope, like
maybe like you and hit Boy or something or not
this one. I'm just right now.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
I ain't a lot a lot of producer I work with,
they overseas. I ain't gonna lie to a lot of
these guys that's producing.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
They overseas.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
You get the YouTube type beats going.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Bro, that's where I find them, bro, not bro. Run
that ship up, bro, And people don't understand like that
soldier found them.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Just what beat she make it? Clap beat on them? Bro.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Meek Mill then caught a lot of.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Beats off you.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
What was that dude's name? Eight cash money ap Yep, dude,
he blew up the fuck up YouTube like, and I
don't blame him. Like I met that dude and like
he had the craziest European accent and I was like,
I was like, oh, you're that bro ship. It fucks
you up, bro, But that's how fine cast.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
And it's dope because these the cast has be like
be behind the ship or they be the next whatever
and then all out. And I'm fair like, I hate
when they put free next to they ship. I don't
believe that a lot of these cats gonna take the
ship and really run it up like it's free. Nah, bro,
I'm gonna hit you in the DM. I need your
people to hit my people. I need the stems.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
We gotta mix. We got a master.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
And then they be so grateful and thankful because they
be like, damn, I never thought you was gonna reach
out and try to like, nah, bro, we want to
we want to pay you.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
I want to make sure you good. I wanna MAKEU
you eat?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Is JD got any stuff on the new album you
guys saying you and Yeah we're gonna we're getting yes
from the team moment Yes on one of the albums,
Yes them. Yeah, yeah, he's on one of them. Nice
all right, man, I look forward to you and Uh
and Trey bringing back that fucking two thousands, one six.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
That's crazy. Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
Between the two of you guys. You guys are fucked.
Everyone's girls in the game and uh, you know, shout
out to Trey songs. Enough Boutwow, listen to tour is
going to be amazing Boys for life. Starting Mars six,
we are six, we outside no Phoenix date. That's full show.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I've been saying that crazy Wow, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Come on baby all the time. That h
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