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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Blue Black Cap Podcast. Man, we got a special guest
in here. Pacoimas in the building. Maka's in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
What's good, broing? Really, thank you for having me, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Uh So, first of all, Man, you are the second
artist we've ever had from Pacorma on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh yeah, shout out picks.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yes, I've seen that the eight is in the building. Yeah,
I guess, I guess if you consider. I mean, Whack
one hundred is not a rapper, but he's been on
the show before. But welcome to the show. Man. You've
been you've been moving to shake and run around the country.
How long you been doing this music ship?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Uh for a minute. I think I started like what
twenty twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, but like more and so
it's just like as a hobby, right, I didn't really
take it serious until like this past what six months.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So like you barely just started taking it serious.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's because like it, yes and no, like it'd be
like my my my roller coaster of you know, like life,
right man.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I mean, at the end of the day, motherfuckers gotta
pay bills, pay bills.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I got a daughter, right, you know what? I mean,
so it's like I was putting a lot of priorities.
I would say, you know, but above the dream, you
know what I mean. So it came down to it
like I was sitting down with a couple of homies,
and oddly enough, Bravo, the bag chaser, was like, you
just gotta put two feet in it. Yeah, great guy,
(01:25):
And so I did, and now we're here. Yeah on
the Bootlegs show.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Shout out to Bravo. Yeah, you know. I try to
give Bravo advice.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
He never listens, you.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Know, even though he's like he's Jack and he's like healthier.
I just was like, you gotta stop sucking on these
fucking balloons. Dog in the studio. Every time Bravo comes
to the fucking studio, there's a giant tank and it's
like twelve bitches all got. It's like a fucking birthday party.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Not the sessions that we be having.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
No, I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But was my brother.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Man, great guy, Man, great guy. He's like just his
growth too.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's been dope to see all independent too, Like gosh,
it's he's not what crazy, He's a blueprint that a
lot of artist should try to follow.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
His tour he just did was super successful too.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And he dropped the He went on tour before he
dropped the album, which is insane.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
A man that's that demand.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I thought that was the crazy shit ever because he
dropped on his birthday, but his tour happened like probably
like a couple of months before, you know, so I
thought that sh was dope.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Would you say like that that kind of generation of
la hip hop, the Bravos, the Shorelines to Draco's like
a big influence on you.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeahred percent, you know what I mean. I mean, Bravo
and himself like just being independent. That should be like
every artist's dreams because he's eating everything he's putting out right,
you know, it doesn't have to split the pot with
nobody else but himself, you know what I mean. But uh,
Draco and like Charline's influence on artists and the people
itself is like definitely like generational, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
But you're also very like melodic with your ship. Is
that something like that? You always kind of just had
that pocket?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, I grew up singing, like I mean, I still sing,
you know, but yeah, grew up in like a singing household.
My mom loves to sing. You know. She's like to
this day, her and my dad are still in the
choir for the church. Oh shit, you know what I mean.
So I grew up like my my background and it
was really like soul full gospel, you know what I mean.
(03:16):
So I think that's where like it stems from. And
then just attaching that to like not being ugly kind
of works for me, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So that's a great line. Ye Like, look, I know
I'm not a bad looking guy. Yeah you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That way, it doesn't you don't seem too cocky, you know.
But yeah, so I've I've always I've always been able
to sing. I've always like sang. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I feel like you either like like if you can sing,
it's either your it's like you got to be like
a really good looking dude, or you got to be
kind of like road wave. People would be like, Yo,
this big dude sounds like.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Crazy because even who's that one artist? I don't know
if I'm saying it right, but cocky Cocky k or
Khaki ka no idea. Uh he's the one with the
Friday and Meek Mill that song.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh yeah, I mean I don't big dude, but can
sing his ass of the Proud to Me record. Yes,
I didn't even know anybody else was on that song.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well no, it's the no no, no, what song is that?
You know what song that is?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Cyrus died Choke Me? Please?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah? What what's your song name? Anyways? But yeah it
you can either go that. You can either really really
sing Chris Brown level or you know sorre.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You grew up in Pacoima, Yeah, I grew up.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
My childhood is in Pacoima. And then from there, uh,
my parents, my parents, uh they move like Mission Hills, you.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Know, and then shout out to Mission Hills.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Man, small city.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Mission Hills is like one of those places where when
you move to La you start like trying to like
damn all the houses are so expensive, and then you
get out to like Mission Hills. Oh you get a
little crib over here.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, for sure, you know what I mean, Like the.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Deeper in the valley you get. Man, You're like, I
guess I'll drive. I could drive forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's not that bad.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's not there, you know what, And then before you
know it, you're hitting Santa Clarita on Zillo and you're like.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, Santa Creta is Yeah, Santa Claris is not bad.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Though it's not bad.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I like it out there, you know, it's definitely like
like I thought, I think the valley is out the
way spot, but Santa Clarita can't country. All that is
really out the out.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Super out the way, you know what it is because
if an accident happens, it's it's only one way in
and out.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, you're stuck. You're stuck, you know. But oh yeah,
my my, I grew up. My childhood house is right
there in Pacuoma.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So did you do any sports in the growing up?
What were you doing? Like, like, were you a good student?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Man? I was that delusional kid thinking he was gonna
make it in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I mean, dude, your tonguing Yeah, so, like I mean, fuck,
there's so many tongue ins in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Not for so, I mean now. And then it got
to like a couple of years to where like we
finally started getting a little bit more wrecked on, like
the culture and stuff like that. Even in music, I
would say, because artists like Jay bug man.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I love I love that do it again. So it
was in Hawaii for like a week and I just
put j Buog Radio on.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I'm telling you J bug Is. I think he's
sman or he might be have, but he's incredible, even
to where like Fiji, who is our people's Bob Marley. Yeah, yeah,
for sure, you know what I mean. So I feel
like we just started getting a lot more recognition in
that space where it's like music, uh to like the
(06:34):
sports side, Like I'm glad we're finally getting reognition because
a lot of people don't know what Tongans are Samoans
for sure, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I feel like most people group all of y'all in.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But now, and this is my biggest pet peeve and
there's nothing against him, but now my biggest pet peeve
is when they group us with Asians, right, you know
what I mean? So that's like it does you know,
so like they even gave like our month is grouped together.
Technically you guys are Pacific Islanders, right, No, not technically
we are, Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Technically yeah. Yeah. But then then there's like then between
because there's the Filipinos, who depending on which Filipino you ask, yeah,
they all say that they are also Pacific Islanders and
then others will say they're Asians. Yes, they're in between ers.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
They are the in between her, and I think that's
where like the the the cloudiness gets, you know, and
like I said, there's nothing against them, I don't got
to no, you know, but it's like we're already so small,
like I'd rather want something for ourselves. You know.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So you were playing high school football.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, I went to Alamani, went to Alamani.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
What was your position?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I played linebacker, but it was kind of like a
it was a rover position, so it's technically safety, but
they brought me down to the box a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You were like a fucking Troy palm Alo type.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Bruh, yeah, kind of yeah, Buddha Baker one of my
favorite players. But yeah, you know, so that's what I
was doing, not really doing much. You feel me like
it was it was school practice, sleep, repeat, fire, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So that's dope, man. Yeah, I mean I feel like
I feel like football is like the most obtainable because
there's so many roster spots, so it's like, you know,
if you are I feel like it's one of those
sports that like you don't even have to be necessarily
the most gifted. If you just really grind and like,
it's enough sometimes to get on like a practice squad
or to get on special teams.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
For sure, you know what I mean. And like I
would say, like even with like the homies, the only
place you don't really know I'm tonguing is in the
weight room. That's the only place, like outside people either
think I'm black Filipino.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Why did they think that? In the weight rooms because
you're strong?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah? Yeah, there was like a running joke, Kaylan. I
don't know if it was Kailin or my boy Tie,
there was a running joke that I was on steroids,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
So you're not on any pep tides.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Nah, No, I'm scared of needles. I don't even take
pre workout, no stretching, no nothing. As soon as we
walk in straight to the bench.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, pre workout is. Uh, it's interesting. Yeah that should
have had me scratching my face like a tweaker.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Do that fucking pre workout is but it works. So
you know, so do you work? Are you pretty? You're
pretty like locked in at the gym.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Still No, not right now? Being on the run with jeez,
it's been like so and you try, you try to
stay disciplined on the road, but it's.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Hard, especially like on the food ship. I feel like,
no matter how hard you try, it's like if you
haven't ate all day and it's one am and you're
in a random city, it's like your options are hell limited.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And then you open that door dash app and it's
like order again McDonald's, and it's just like, you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Like your damn near need to like bring your own food.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Nah. So it's like I I tried to stay on
top of it, but right now I'm not. I'm so
I'm so off off of it. But I'll get back.
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Speaker 2 (11:34):
In officially on the OTX side, on the OTX boy side. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
What what What was it? Uh like that I guess
kind of sparked that relationship in that conversation.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Uh. Well, crazy enough the song itself, Jesus never supposed
to be on it. Okay, I never asked him to
be on it. I didn't even have an open verse
on that song. We drove up to the Bay. When
we drove to the Bay, he had got booked at
a club and we were in the parking lot of
(12:05):
the hotel and I was like, hey, bro, I got
to shoot content real quick because IM about slide in
the morning. And he was like, all right, just pull
up right here. So he opens his car door. He
played through the through his car speakers, and I was like,
this got open verse to it. I was like, shit, no,
I make one. So I called my boy DTV. DTV
(12:25):
opened up a verse, sent it to me like within
probably fifteen minutes. I sent it the bro nothing crickets.
He didn't didn't like the message, didn't tell me it
was gonna get on it. They ended up I ended
up coming back home, but they stayed out there in
the bay because I guess he got booked two days
for sure, you know. So he ended up saying out there,
(12:49):
I'm back in LA. They end up coming back and
I'm calling Hi'm like, yeoh, what's the deal? Was good? Nothing,
And then it was like two am, two am. I
got to misface time call for him. I guess he
was in the studio and then uh, I missed that call.
I was sleep but I woke up to the record
and that's how I done just being done crazy, you know.
(13:09):
So uh from there, that's when he was like sending
me a schedule telling me when I could drop, because
obviously he was keeping me informed with like so we.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Had you already figured out that you guys were gonna
work together prior to you him hit getting on the record.
It was that record kind of the genesis of like, yo,
let me put it out through a TX, like let's
do this together type shit.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah. I think I would say that was because I
was always around, but because I was my homie. We
go to church together, Okay, you know. So that's how
like the relationship formed initially, is it. Uh, We're just
good people, you know what I mean. He's a good dude,
so we just it was easy to mesh, you know.
And then we started going to church together and just
started kicking it, you know what I mean. So like
(13:50):
for me to pull up to the bay that was
nothing he called me. I was like, Yo, I'm going
to the bay if you want to slide. So I
would say that record is what really set it off,
and then even just follow it up after that because
he saw how hard I was working the record as
well as like shooting content for like staying on top
of like the business aspect of it of like you know,
making sure that aligns with his schedule, you know, because
(14:11):
I knew how big of an opportunity it was for
me to get out. So you know, even at that,
like he doesn't have to do a lot of stuff,
he does for me, right, you know what I mean.
It's like effortless the love that he shows to not
only me, but to the record in itself. Like this
tour that we just went on, I missed the first
two days. I think it was like Albuquerque and Albuquerque's
(14:34):
what Texas? No, not New Mexico, it was Albuquerque. And
then there was a spot in Texas that I missed.
He's sending me videos of him performing a song and
I'm not even there. That's fire, you know what I mean.
So it's like he doesn't have to do a lot
of that stuff. But he liked the record, he liked
how it sounded, he liked the message of the records.
So I felt like it was really easy. And then
(14:54):
from there that's when he was like, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
That's crazy man, shout out to the church man.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Bringing folks together literally. So I don't know. I think
that there is where it grew like that genuine relationship too,
because like at the end of the day, we don't
really got to we don't got to go to church together,
right hang out?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, I mean, look, I think too, it's like dope
to see. I think Jez's been doing a really good
job of like being like a young turned artist, but
also showing kids like you could do all this and
be sober and not be like a jackass I'm saying,
and be about your business and move like a professional.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Like and that's something I respect too, because I don't.
I don't drink or smoke. So he just hit one
year of sobriety like two days ago or something. Yeah,
you know, so.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Were you always like have you always been sober? Did
you ever like go through like being a pothead or Nah?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
No, I don't have no like crazy story. I don't
got no reason to just not. That's dope, you know,
like I just never really had the curiosity for it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Would your parents kill you?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Uh? Nah? Both my both my brothers smoke and drink.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Okay, yeah, you know how much? How many of your
family members or security guards in La.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
A lot a lot? We went to look when I
when I tell you we went to we went to Kailin.
He's a birthday party. I'm telling you that. As soon
as I get there, I know the security guard he
cut the line. We get there, it's like everybody, every
single security guard in that motherfucker was damn near my family.
They all come to say what's up. So sometimes sometimes
(16:24):
it works for me because if the security guards are
leaving their post to come say up to me, like
everybody else is looking like who is he? You know?
And I don't look like a traditional tonging. So instinctively,
they're not thinking like, oh, that's probably just their cousin
or something, you know what I mean. So, uh, yeah,
it was funny. We just went through that conversation the
other day at their birthday party. But a lot from
(16:46):
like strip clubs, to clubs to just even my cousin
just posted he was a a neon security guard at EEDC.
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(17:36):
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get back to the podcast. Is there any sort of
like rivalry between tongue and samoa?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It used to be bad.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, that's before my generation though, but it used to
be like like you're like, I was like, you don't
miss miss you know, no, we still don't like it, right,
you know, we still don't like being miss Like you're smoing,
but I'm tongue, you know. But it goes for like
anything like the Mexicans and souths, Like if you call
it a Mexican Salvadorian, they're just gonna correct you. So
that's all it is, just a correction. But as far
(18:10):
as like ongoing like beef or something like that, Like
it hasn't been like that way in years, you know
what I mean. So it used to be like way
worse as I was growing up, But like I said,
that was the generation before me, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I feel like too, you know, it's got to be
dope to know, like if you get some motion, like
you have a whole island that's gonna fuck with you.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, and they either do or they don't, right, you
know what I mean. They either do it they don't
cause they're definitely a hard crowd to win over, just
because we're so small and we only know what we know,
you know what I mean. So, like, aside from like
the reggae, someone that is super big in our culture
is a He's a rapper named young O from Inglewood.
(18:55):
Oh dope, you know what I mean. So it's like
he's like there was a kid.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That I'm not sure if he was telling or someone
that used to work with Roddy Craig.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
That's my boy, Craig, yep, Coreg. Yeah, that's my boy.
He's Simon. He's sing me. Yeah, but that's my boy though,
you know what I mean. Super dope, overly locked in.
But I was Roddy's he was signed with the bird
Vision bird Vision. That was Roddy's only opener when he
dropped Anti Social Yeah yeah, fact crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah. That was a legendary tour and then COVID.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Just wiped it all up.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
But at least we had that first tour, that one
tour I got to go to that. It was special. Yeah,
it was a movie.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Now he's doing his thing, you feel me, So shout
out Craig my boy Mac, who I met through Craig
is a Mario the Scientist sound engineer, you know what
I mean. So it's a lot of big things coming
out of that camp.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Uh. There's some big tongue in wrestlers. Do you know them?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, it's funny enough. They just tapped in. I'm not
I used to be really big on wrestling growing up.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, you know what I mean, it's like my thing.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, I'm uh. I think Jay Fau just tapped in
with me on Instagram. Yep, dude, So brothers, there's.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Like like Tangaloa. There's there's three tongue in bruhs. One
of them just got released. But there's like the Tall
Full but yeah, the MFTs. I think two out of
the three MFTs are from tongue. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
But yeah, I think I was trying to follow the
storyline because IVE seen them pop up on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
But I mean, man, what you're in, you're in? Man,
yeah exactly. Then you go to wrestle Mania every year
and I'm going to Summer Slam in August.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
See, like I grew up with that, you know. I
grew up with like the Shawn Michaels course, Shohn Seen
and stuff like that, Like that was my and then
as soon as they also I see them still wrestling,
But it's not like the same.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Are you working on the project right now?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
No? Yes, and the singles you can do the single
thing singles.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I want there to be like more of a demand
for a project than putting out a body of work
that I'm proud of. That kind of like falls on
deaf ears, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, it's because it's like I always tell people, until
you know the demand is there for album, and you'll
know when it's there. Yeah, Like dropping a whole body
of work is like a single shot into the algorithm.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Because you got to you gotta take to account. Right,
Drake just dropped three albums and Drake is one of
the biggest artists of our generation. I'm still skimming through
his album.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, No one, Like everyone's only talking about Iceman exactly.
Like it's crazy because the Habibi joints fire. I that
shit's hard, but no one's talking about that ship and
I'm like, yo, this shit is like some of the
best R and B. Drake we've ever gotten. Facts here,
the Maine Honor shit is not for me.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I haven't even got there yet. But that's my point though,
you know. So it's like getting them to attach and
gravitate to one song to three minutes and let alone
is hard. So once you drop ten songs or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I feel like, if you got ten records that you
feel strong about, that's ten different opportunities to shoot shots
into the algorithm, ten different different individual releases until like,
but you'll know, like when it's like I need to
drop a prober.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Or space them out. You know, if you got ten,
roll out three and depending on how those go, drop
the project together and throw those three back on the
project for sure, you know so, and it only adds
to extreame count. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So it How active are you in the studio? Are
you like in all the time.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
All the time? Yeah, all the time. Right now, it's
been kind of tough because like my my main engineers
working with Brody, they're doing some crazy shit for a
lot of artists. So and not only that, but we've
been on the road that past two months.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, no, for sure. I mean the Ontario show was crazy, legendary.
Everybody in their mom came out. Yeah, we turned that
to a party. It was like it felt like one
of those like big radio shows. Yeah, it's like, damn
all in La came out at that motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
No. But the craziest part too, is it the one
in Glendale? Yeah, in As that one was so crazy
because it was like the homies were already there, like
its greedo, sad, greedo jeezy Kaylin, Kaylin, you know what
I mean. And it's like it towards j Z's end
(23:05):
of the set, everyone just came out on stage, show love,
you know what I mean. And that's where like the
vibe was, you know, we left, We left the venue like, bro,
we gotta do something like this. But in La, for sure,
you know what I mean, to where it's like, yeah,
I feel like those shot outs to Jason and those guys.
They always do who Wants Smoke shows, but they always
doing Ontario. But yeah, it's always like Ontario. I they
(23:26):
just sitting out to Vegas. But it's like they gotta
do the Forum. You know what I meant to do
the farm or something like to where it's more you
know for sure. But I mean I'm not mad at
it though, because already end of the day is a
good time.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You already got your next single picked out.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a single with me and Bravo.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I just got.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I just sent it over to Big Sad on it too,
So I'm trying to wait a little bit so I
can get his verse. But be hard yet to get
all three guys on it. Come on. That's I'm telling
you that that one in itself, like with just Bravo
on it, is one of my favorite tracks I've made
in like two years.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
What's it like growing up in Pacoima, because Pacoima is
some of the best Mexican food in the world is
in Pacoima. Yeah, my East Coast be cracking out there. Yeah,
it's also probably in the valley considered like one of
it's probably the most dangerous city in the valley. It's
like probably Pacoima panoramic city.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, so I mean Pacoima. I would say it's just
an experience you got to like live, you know what
I mean, Everything from like the ice Cream Man, which
we hardly see nowadays, right, you know, to the palaeo. Man,
it's like the people who walk around with the corn.
(24:40):
I feel like my childhood was like for Pacoima in itself.
I didn't. I don't. I'm not gonna sit here and
say that I experienced a lot out of it because
you know, like I said, I'm talking. So I spent
a lot of my time with my cousins right or
and there's a lot of us. So I never felt
like I was missing anything. So it was either Pacoima
or North Hills, you know. So those are the two
(25:02):
places I bounced back and forth from because my family,
my grandma, like my home base basically from my like
my bloodline was right there in North Hills. But I
grew up where I grew up and where like I
laid my head and stuff like that. With Pacormia, you.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Never were like, uh, tempted to get into the gang
life because it is it is pretty active out there.
Obviously a lot of Hispanic gangs, you know, Perma part
rules out there.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh yeah, the two piece people. No, not really, I mean,
and it's not even that, it's not even that I
was like, obviously, people are influenced by what they're around
you know what I mean. But was I like tempted
to go from there? Not not really, but like a
lot of my family, a lot of my family members
bang yeah. So it was never like I'm seeing that.
(25:47):
Why would I wrap something else?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel like too,
It's like that it could go either way with that.
It's like if you see your family wrapped up in
some shit, it can deter you from like doing it.
It's almost like if you grew up around I'm like, like,
I've never done like hard drugs. Obviously smoking, we do
mushrooms all that shit, but I never did, like know,
like real I'm never goingn cocaine, never popped the pain pill,
(26:09):
no hardcore like real drugs. Because I saw like my
whole family's like tweakers and drug addicts and my caroin
addicts and shit. So I'm like that shit. I saw
that shit growing up, and I was just like, nah, shit.
I barely started smoking weed. I was like nineteen twenty,
you know what I mean. Like it wasn't like something
I was I would like, I wasn't smoking as a kid.
(26:29):
I wouldn't even I wasn't even drinking like that until
I turned twenty one.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, no, I feel it. I mean, and I feel
like if I played Pop warn Or two, it might've
turned out a little different. But I didn't like my childhood.
I was only doing basketball. So from like of age,
like six years old, you up until high school, I
was hooping.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, you know what I mean. So, did you ever
do the AAU thing? The AAU shit is crazy. It's
like a hustle. Dude. My son plays two different leagues.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
It's for real.
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(28:22):
Let's get back to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, so it was either I was hooping and then
got to high school and sowitched the whole program up
to football.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, how serious did the football dream get for you,
did you play, like consider going to college to play?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Or nah? Hell, I don't even take my SATs. I knew,
like as soon as I knew from the get I
wasn't going to college.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
And then.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But both of my brothers, see like I got two brothers.
I got a older brother, yeah, and a younger brother.
My older brother, true Polynesian, true Polynesian, six four, like
three sixty five right now, just a specimen of a being.
We're only we're only like sixteen months apart. Crazy, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
But he's like true tonguing offensive lineman, ready to go
both offense and defense.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
He's a no tackle offensive defense. So he went to
UH he went to U of A. And then my
baby brother, he just he looked just like me. He
went to ASU. So my my parents went their whole
teams in a Yeah, my parents went two for three
rivals out there. Yeah exactly exactly when they go against
each other and ship like that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Are they currently in college now?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Not? My little brother graduated early and my older brother
graduated like years ago.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Like, if if you weren't doing music, what could you
see yourself doing professionally? Mmmm?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's a good one shore. I don't know. I don't know.
I had this dream of being a fireman. I mean
that could be fun, but other than that, I don't know,
Like I really because outside even when I was you
know how I told you, like I've been on and
off with music. Even when I was off the music,
I was around music, right, you know what I mean,
Like all my homies and rappers. So like one of
(30:01):
my best friends is Kaitln. Yeah, so when I was
off music, all I was doing was kicking it with
bro you know. So I would go to the studio,
but it wasn't for me, right you know. So he's
another person that kind of like really influenced me and
helped me out a lot because when I wasn't doing
nothing musically, he kind of like kept that spark alive,
right you know. So I was heavily, heavily influenced by
(30:25):
like his work ethic even his music in itself too,
because like he's a lot of bag yeah with the melody,
you know. So like one thing about bros, like he'll
work his ass off for sure. He'll work is and
a lot of people don't see it. He don't get
the recognition because obviously people don't see that side.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
But he Yeah, there's certain people who's like studio process,
you'd be like super tripped out by like damn, like
if they weren't really like And then you'll be in
like the studio with other people who like work a
little slower yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
You're like.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Like, yeah, like Kalen is one of those guys, like
my artist Alexis, this kid can do a whole fucking
album and like a fucking no.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
He saw I came here my last time here was
he he asked me to pull up, mind you, he'd
be up crackhead hours. He called me like three am.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's that cocaine.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, he called me three am and was like what
are you doing. I'm like, shit sleeping and he was
like pull up to pull up to the studio right now,
I'm gonna play my album crazy shit like you know.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But yeah, it's like it's like when you like, I
feel like everyone has their own process. But when you're
in the studio with like if you're homiees like yo,
and then you get in the studio with somebody who
takes their time a little bit more, You're like, Yo,
these motherfuckers are slow.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, And it's and it's crazy because when we go
if me and Cale and go pull up on another
artist to do a feature or something like that, he
treats it. And this is what like I kind of
picked up on. He treats it as like a friendly competition,
you know, like as soon as he likes to be,
he's on it.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, and it.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Always just like stuns the other person.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Like damn, bro, Grito's like that.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
We had Grito get on some ship and Grito just
like he's like, all right, play it and he just
went in and just like, damn, your one take is versive.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah. No, Greta is another fast worker, too, super fast.
And then you go to like other studio sessions like
Jesus session, the control room quiet, nobody hears nothing until
it's done, you know what I mean. So like that's
also a trip too, because like it's different, you know,
so everyone's recording process is different. But I was blessed
and I was fortunate enough to like kind of pick
(32:26):
away at a lot of stuff and kind of just
take away what I like and see what I'm good
at and then just do it, you know, just practice
it on my own, Like when I step away from them,
So I definitely was like blessed in that sense.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So you got the new record with Jeez going crazy.
You've been on the road because you guys just did Anchorage, Alaska. Yeah,
I mean music took you to Anchorage. That's gotta be crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
The craziest part is, like I'm going I'm I'm I'm
going with gis all these places with the mindset of
like I'm going there as support a lot of people,
a lot of or damn near nobody knows who I am, right,
So Angers was a trip because I'm walking through the
crowd to go send them my visuals like if you
(33:10):
played in the background, and it's like, mind you, there's
a lot of tongs out there that I didn't know.
I just found out that Alaska was a state. So
I'm I'm like tripped out. But I'm walking through the
crowd and it's like I'm getting stopped taking pictures like
you feelings like oh shoot, you're maka.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah. They have like I forget what the name of
because there's like the people who are native to Alaska
before it became a state. There's a name. I don't
want to fuck it up. They're not they don't like
to be called Eskimos. There's a name for him. It's
like a type of Native people out there, but they're
not Eskimos. That's I think that's kind of slurrish from
what I understand. I think.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So I think it's like, yeah, I think we're being
racist right now.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I don't mean, I don't mean to be. I just
I'm just off the head. But yeah, no, it's this
whole I mean, shout out to Alaska.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
It was cold, Uh, it was cold, but Colorado was colder.
Bro I was freezing Colorado.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You guys get Red Red Rocks, which is like one
of the most legendary venues man, and I was. Kevin
Gates was on the show too.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
He was a headliner. Yeah, he was a headliner. But
Red Rocks is probably the best venue I've ever been to.
You know, that ship's a movie. Even the drive up
was so scenic. It was like crazy, and it was raining,
so there was like a lot of red clay on
the floor. But I feel like he made the experience
a lot better. Like, you know, so that show, I'm
(34:27):
telling you was insane. I was surprised they didn't headline it,
but shout out Kevin Gate.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah. I mean I was telling Rory the same thing.
I was like, I was like, you guys, do you
guys get headline red Rocks like shots Kevin Gates. Kevin
Gates get headline red Rocks? He did, know I'm saying,
but I'm like, you guys got to go spin the
block on that ship.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Like now we they definitely talked to the right person,
so you know, there we might be at Red Rocks again.
But for the first time, that shit was dope, you
know what I mean. And I was even asking people
that were out there in Colorado. I was like, it's
Kevin Big out here. They're like, oh, dude, love Kevin.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Ye, people love bro Kevin Gates has a thing. Yeah,
it's He's huge, bro. And it's crazy too because like
it's like almost like turned into this like cult following
even though he's like a huge artist, Like people don't
understand how like committed his fans are.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
No. And see, that's what I preach to like a
lot of people and even to like my team, is
that I don't see music as the.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
End, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
So I Kevin Gates is a good example, but the
example I always use is like somebody like Blueface, right,
so their whole get down is like it doesn't even
matter if they drop music or not, or how long
it's been since they drop music. They have core fans
who are like they're in tune to what they're doing
as a personality.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, blue Face has turned the like his life into
a reality show for the.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Last six or seven in his work, and he's going crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
It works because people are so personally invested in his
life that they're like, yo, what's up with the baby
mama and the other baby mamas? And it's like, like
the toy's doing right now, it looks like it's going
very well, like blue Face. I mean even you know,
he took you know, I feel like a lot of
people think it's too late to get into the streaming game.
(36:11):
But he got got out of prison and got right
to the streaming shit. Yeah, I heard he just got
a crazy deal with Kick Like.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
But that's what a lot of people don't understand is that, like,
music can only get you so far, and you can
do really well in music, but if you can get
a group of people, I know, people that don't listen
to Blue Face and music but was tune into a stream,
you know what I mean, And it's all.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
And yeah, there's people who are Kevin Gates fan. That's
the only rapper they like, like you know what I mean,
Like for sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
What I mean. So I like, I want to try
to use the music as like that driving factor to
give me to that point where it's like it doesn't
matter what I do, you know, because and everyone's situation
is different, Like people like Frank Ocean for being mysterious
for sure, you know what I mean. He's like the
only person who could really be named as a headliner
for Coachella and then pull out last minute.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
And as to his personality, his person adds.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
To the whatever the aura or like, because even when
he did perform that first weekend, it kind of didn't perform,
But he's like, I'm Frank Ocean, I do whatever the
funk I wanted exactly. He's like the mail Lauren Hill.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
And then people gonna go for it, yeah you know
what I mean. Like they're not canceling him because he
pulled out last minute. They're like, that's on Frank Ocean.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Shit have been I would have been mad. Likes almost
about tickets for my son to go, and I'm like,
I thank god I didn't.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I mean, a lot of people were mad at to
Justin Bieber.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I thought that ship was cool, But I also wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
You know. I thought that ship was a vibe. That's
the close thing you're gonna get to kicking it with JV,
you know what I mean, Like you want to know
what it's like the kid like.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's probably what it's gonna get hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So I thought that ship was cool.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I thought it was I thought it was unique. I
never seen thating like that before, for sure.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Did you were you there? No? I just watched on
YouTube shout the beach Man. All right, man, we'll listen
to a new single on the way, hopefully with Big
Shad and Bravo's already on it. Yeah, record will though
Jezus out.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yes, sir, and then hopefully album coming out by the
end of this year. You know.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
So, where can people find you on? On Instagram and
all that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Oh, Macha underscore, underscore, Tea on Instagram, uh and everywhere else?
Really tiktoks the same thing, and then Maca on Apple
Music and Spotify.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Go support this guy, Macha appreciate you pulling up.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yes, love, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
What's good, broing? Really, thank you for having me, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Uh So, first of all, Man, you are the second
artist we've ever had from Pacorma on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh yeah, shout out picks.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yes, I've seen that the eight is in the building. Yeah,
I guess, I guess if you consider. I mean, Whack
one hundred is not a rapper, but he's been on
the show before. But welcome to the show. Man. You've
been you've been moving to shake and run around the country.
How long you been doing this music ship?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Uh for a minute. I think I started like what
twenty twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, but like more and so
it's just like as a hobby, right, I didn't really
take it serious until like this past what six months.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
So like you barely just started taking it serious.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
It's because like it, yes and no, like it'd be
like my my my roller coaster of you know, like life,
right man.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I mean, at the end of the day, motherfuckers gotta
pay bills, pay bills.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I got a daughter, right, you know what? I mean,
so it's like I was putting a lot of priorities.
I would say, you know, but above the dream, you
know what I mean. So it came down to it
like I was sitting down with a couple of homies,
and oddly enough, Bravo, the bag chaser, was like, you
just gotta put two feet in it. Yeah, great guy,
(01:25):
And so I did, and now we're here. Yeah on
the Bootlegs show.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Shout out to Bravo. Yeah, you know. I try to
give Bravo advice.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
He never listens, you.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Know, even though he's like he's Jack and he's like healthier.
I just was like, you gotta stop sucking on these
fucking balloons. Dog in the studio. Every time Bravo comes
to the fucking studio, there's a giant tank and it's
like twelve bitches all got. It's like a fucking birthday party.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Not the sessions that we be having.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
No, I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But was my brother.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Man, great guy, Man, great guy. He's like just his
growth too.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
It's been dope to see all independent too, Like gosh,
it's he's not what crazy, He's a blueprint that a
lot of artist should try to follow.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
His tour he just did was super successful too.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And he dropped the He went on tour before he
dropped the album, which is insane.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
A man that's that demand.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I thought that was the crazy shit ever because he
dropped on his birthday, but his tour happened like probably
like a couple of months before, you know, so I
thought that sh was dope.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Would you say like that that kind of generation of
la hip hop, the Bravos, the Shorelines to Draco's like
a big influence on you.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeahred percent, you know what I mean. I mean, Bravo
and himself like just being independent. That should be like
every artist's dreams because he's eating everything he's putting out right,
you know, it doesn't have to split the pot with
nobody else but himself, you know what I mean. But uh,
Draco and like Charline's influence on artists and the people
itself is like definitely like generational, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
But you're also very like melodic with your ship. Is
that something like that? You always kind of just had
that pocket?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, I grew up singing, like I mean, I still sing,
you know, but yeah, grew up in like a singing household.
My mom loves to sing. You know. She's like to
this day, her and my dad are still in the
choir for the church. Oh shit, you know what I mean.
So I grew up like my my background and it
was really like soul full gospel, you know what I mean.
(03:16):
So I think that's where like it stems from. And
then just attaching that to like not being ugly kind
of works for me, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So that's a great line. Ye Like, look, I know
I'm not a bad looking guy. Yeah you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
That way, it doesn't you don't seem too cocky, you know.
But yeah, so I've I've always I've always been able
to sing. I've always like sang. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
I feel like you either like like if you can sing,
it's either your it's like you got to be like
a really good looking dude, or you got to be
kind of like road wave. People would be like, Yo,
this big dude sounds like.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Crazy because even who's that one artist? I don't know
if I'm saying it right, but cocky Cocky k or
Khaki ka no idea. Uh he's the one with the
Friday and Meek Mill that song.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Oh yeah, I mean I don't big dude, but can
sing his ass of the Proud to Me record. Yes,
I didn't even know anybody else was on that song.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Well no, it's the no no, no, what song is that?
You know what song that is?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Cyrus died Choke Me? Please?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah? What what's your song name? Anyways? But yeah it
you can either go that. You can either really really
sing Chris Brown level or you know sorre.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You grew up in Pacoima, Yeah, I grew up.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
My childhood is in Pacoima. And then from there, uh,
my parents, my parents, uh they move like Mission Hills, you.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Know, and then shout out to Mission Hills.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Man, small city.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Mission Hills is like one of those places where when
you move to La you start like trying to like
damn all the houses are so expensive, and then you
get out to like Mission Hills. Oh you get a
little crib over here.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, for sure, you know what I mean, Like the.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Deeper in the valley you get. Man, You're like, I
guess I'll drive. I could drive forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's not that bad.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
It's not there, you know what, And then before you
know it, you're hitting Santa Clarita on Zillo and you're like.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, Santa Creta is Yeah, Santa Claris is not bad.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Though it's not bad.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I like it out there, you know, it's definitely like
like I thought, I think the valley is out the
way spot, but Santa Clarita can't country. All that is
really out the out.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Super out the way, you know what it is because
if an accident happens, it's it's only one way in
and out.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, you're stuck. You're stuck, you know. But oh yeah,
my my, I grew up. My childhood house is right
there in Pacuoma.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So did you do any sports in the growing up?
What were you doing? Like, like, were you a good student?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Man? I was that delusional kid thinking he was gonna
make it in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
I mean, dude, your tonguing Yeah, so, like I mean, fuck,
there's so many tongue ins in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Not for so, I mean now. And then it got
to like a couple of years to where like we
finally started getting a little bit more wrecked on, like
the culture and stuff like that. Even in music, I
would say, because artists like Jay bug man.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I love I love that do it again. So it
was in Hawaii for like a week and I just
put j Buog Radio on.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, I'm telling you J bug Is. I think he's
sman or he might be have, but he's incredible, even
to where like Fiji, who is our people's Bob Marley. Yeah, yeah,
for sure, you know what I mean. So I feel
like we just started getting a lot more recognition in
that space where it's like music, uh to like the
(06:34):
sports side, Like I'm glad we're finally getting reognition because
a lot of people don't know what Tongans are Samoans
for sure, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I feel like most people group all of y'all in.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But now, and this is my biggest pet peeve and
there's nothing against him, but now my biggest pet peeve
is when they group us with Asians, right, you know
what I mean? So that's like it does you know,
so like they even gave like our month is grouped together.
Technically you guys are Pacific Islanders, right, No, not technically
we are, Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Technically yeah. Yeah. But then then there's like then between
because there's the Filipinos, who depending on which Filipino you ask, yeah,
they all say that they are also Pacific Islanders and
then others will say they're Asians. Yes, they're in between ers.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
They are the in between her, and I think that's
where like the the the cloudiness gets, you know, and
like I said, there's nothing against them, I don't got
to no, you know, but it's like we're already so small,
like I'd rather want something for ourselves. You know.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
So you were playing high school football.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeah, I went to Alamani, went to Alamani.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
What was your position?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
I played linebacker, but it was kind of like a
it was a rover position, so it's technically safety, but
they brought me down to the box a lot.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You were like a fucking Troy palm Alo type.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Bruh, yeah, kind of yeah, Buddha Baker one of my
favorite players. But yeah, you know, so that's what I
was doing, not really doing much. You feel me like
it was it was school practice, sleep, repeat, fire, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
So that's dope, man. Yeah, I mean I feel like
I feel like football is like the most obtainable because
there's so many roster spots, so it's like, you know,
if you are I feel like it's one of those
sports that like you don't even have to be necessarily
the most gifted. If you just really grind and like,
it's enough sometimes to get on like a practice squad
or to get on special teams.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
For sure, you know what I mean. And like I
would say, like even with like the homies, the only
place you don't really know I'm tonguing is in the
weight room. That's the only place, like outside people either
think I'm black Filipino.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Why did they think that? In the weight rooms because
you're strong?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah? Yeah, there was like a running joke, Kaylan. I
don't know if it was Kailin or my boy Tie,
there was a running joke that I was on steroids,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
So you're not on any pep tides.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Nah, No, I'm scared of needles. I don't even take
pre workout, no stretching, no nothing. As soon as we
walk in straight to the bench.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, pre workout is. Uh, it's interesting. Yeah that should
have had me scratching my face like a tweaker.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Do that fucking pre workout is but it works. So
you know, so do you work? Are you pretty? You're
pretty like locked in at the gym.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Still No, not right now? Being on the run with jeez,
it's been like so and you try, you try to
stay disciplined on the road, but it's.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Hard, especially like on the food ship. I feel like,
no matter how hard you try, it's like if you
haven't ate all day and it's one am and you're
in a random city, it's like your options are hell limited.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And then you open that door dash app and it's
like order again McDonald's, and it's just like, you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Like your damn near need to like bring your own food.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Nah. So it's like I I tried to stay on
top of it, but right now I'm not. I'm so
I'm so off off of it. But I'll get back.
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do you end up? Because for people who don't know, Uh,
you're rolling with OTX boys, Gezus, I mean he's he
told me, I mean you're the first artist he's kind
of bringing.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
In officially on the OTX side, on the OTX boy side. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
What what What was it? Uh like that I guess
kind of sparked that relationship in that conversation.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Uh. Well, crazy enough the song itself, Jesus never supposed
to be on it. Okay, I never asked him to
be on it. I didn't even have an open verse
on that song. We drove up to the Bay. When
we drove to the Bay, he had got booked at
a club and we were in the parking lot of
(12:05):
the hotel and I was like, hey, bro, I got
to shoot content real quick because IM about slide in
the morning. And he was like, all right, just pull
up right here. So he opens his car door. He
played through the through his car speakers, and I was like,
this got open verse to it. I was like, shit, no,
I make one. So I called my boy DTV. DTV
(12:25):
opened up a verse, sent it to me like within
probably fifteen minutes. I sent it the bro nothing crickets.
He didn't didn't like the message, didn't tell me it
was gonna get on it. They ended up I ended
up coming back home, but they stayed out there in
the bay because I guess he got booked two days
for sure, you know. So he ended up saying out there,
(12:49):
I'm back in LA. They end up coming back and
I'm calling Hi'm like, yeoh, what's the deal? Was good? Nothing,
And then it was like two am, two am. I
got to misface time call for him. I guess he
was in the studio and then uh, I missed that call.
I was sleep but I woke up to the record
and that's how I done just being done crazy, you know.
(13:09):
So uh from there, that's when he was like sending
me a schedule telling me when I could drop, because
obviously he was keeping me informed with like so we.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Had you already figured out that you guys were gonna
work together prior to you him hit getting on the record.
It was that record kind of the genesis of like, yo,
let me put it out through a TX, like let's
do this together type shit.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Yeah. I think I would say that was because I
was always around, but because I was my homie. We
go to church together, Okay, you know. So that's how
like the relationship formed initially, is it. Uh, We're just
good people, you know what I mean. He's a good dude,
so we just it was easy to mesh, you know.
And then we started going to church together and just
started kicking it, you know what I mean. So like
(13:50):
for me to pull up to the bay that was
nothing he called me. I was like, Yo, I'm going
to the bay if you want to slide. So I
would say that record is what really set it off,
and then even just follow it up after that because
he saw how hard I was working the record as
well as like shooting content for like staying on top
of like the business aspect of it of like you know,
making sure that aligns with his schedule, you know, because
(14:11):
I knew how big of an opportunity it was for
me to get out. So you know, even at that,
like he doesn't have to do a lot of stuff,
he does for me, right, you know what I mean.
It's like effortless the love that he shows to not
only me, but to the record in itself. Like this
tour that we just went on, I missed the first
two days. I think it was like Albuquerque and Albuquerque's
(14:34):
what Texas? No, not New Mexico, it was Albuquerque. And
then there was a spot in Texas that I missed.
He's sending me videos of him performing a song and
I'm not even there. That's fire, you know what I mean.
So it's like he doesn't have to do a lot
of that stuff. But he liked the record, he liked
how it sounded, he liked the message of the records.
So I felt like it was really easy. And then
(14:54):
from there that's when he was like, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
That's crazy man, shout out to the church man.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Bringing folks together literally. So I don't know. I think
that there is where it grew like that genuine relationship too,
because like at the end of the day, we don't
really got to we don't got to go to church together,
right hang out?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well, I mean, look, I think too, it's like dope
to see. I think Jez's been doing a really good
job of like being like a young turned artist, but
also showing kids like you could do all this and
be sober and not be like a jackass I'm saying,
and be about your business and move like a professional.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Like and that's something I respect too, because I don't.
I don't drink or smoke. So he just hit one
year of sobriety like two days ago or something. Yeah,
you know, so.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Were you always like have you always been sober? Did
you ever like go through like being a pothead or Nah?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
No, I don't have no like crazy story. I don't
got no reason to just not. That's dope, you know,
like I just never really had the curiosity for it.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Would your parents kill you?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Uh? Nah? Both my both my brothers smoke and drink.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Okay, yeah, you know how much? How many of your
family members or security guards in La.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
A lot a lot? We went to look when I
when I tell you we went to we went to Kailin.
He's a birthday party. I'm telling you that. As soon
as I get there, I know the security guard he
cut the line. We get there, it's like everybody, every
single security guard in that motherfucker was damn near my family.
They all come to say what's up. So sometimes sometimes
(16:24):
it works for me because if the security guards are
leaving their post to come say up to me, like
everybody else is looking like who is he? You know?
And I don't look like a traditional tonging. So instinctively,
they're not thinking like, oh, that's probably just their cousin
or something, you know what I mean. So, uh, yeah,
it was funny. We just went through that conversation the
other day at their birthday party. But a lot from
(16:46):
like strip clubs, to clubs to just even my cousin
just posted he was a a neon security guard at EEDC.
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get back to the podcast. Is there any sort of
like rivalry between tongue and samoa?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It used to be bad.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, that's before my generation though, but it used to
be like like you're like, I was like, you don't
miss miss you know, no, we still don't like it, right,
you know, we still don't like being miss Like you're smoing,
but I'm tongue, you know. But it goes for like
anything like the Mexicans and souths, Like if you call
it a Mexican Salvadorian, they're just gonna correct you. So
that's all it is, just a correction. But as far
(18:10):
as like ongoing like beef or something like that, Like
it hasn't been like that way in years, you know
what I mean. So it used to be like way
worse as I was growing up, But like I said,
that was the generation before me, you know, so.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
I feel like too, you know, it's got to be
dope to know, like if you get some motion, like
you have a whole island that's gonna fuck with you.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, and they either do or they don't, right, you
know what I mean. They either do it they don't
cause they're definitely a hard crowd to win over, just
because we're so small and we only know what we know,
you know what I mean. So, like, aside from like
the reggae, someone that is super big in our culture
is a He's a rapper named young O from Inglewood.
(18:55):
Oh dope, you know what I mean. So it's like
he's like there was a kid.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
That I'm not sure if he was telling or someone
that used to work with Roddy Craig.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
That's my boy, Craig, yep, Coreg. Yeah, that's my boy.
He's Simon. He's sing me. Yeah, but that's my boy though,
you know what I mean. Super dope, overly locked in.
But I was Roddy's he was signed with the bird
Vision bird Vision. That was Roddy's only opener when he
dropped Anti Social Yeah yeah, fact crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah. That was a legendary tour and then COVID.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Just wiped it all up.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
But at least we had that first tour, that one
tour I got to go to that. It was special. Yeah,
it was a movie.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Now he's doing his thing, you feel me, So shout
out Craig my boy Mac, who I met through Craig
is a Mario the Scientist sound engineer, you know what
I mean. So it's a lot of big things coming
out of that camp.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Uh. There's some big tongue in wrestlers. Do you know them?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, it's funny enough. They just tapped in. I'm not
I used to be really big on wrestling growing up.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, you know what I mean, it's like my thing.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, I'm uh. I think Jay Fau just tapped in
with me on Instagram. Yep, dude, So brothers, there's.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Like like Tangaloa. There's there's three tongue in bruhs. One
of them just got released. But there's like the Tall
Full but yeah, the MFTs. I think two out of
the three MFTs are from tongue. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
But yeah, I think I was trying to follow the
storyline because IVE seen them pop up on TikTok.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
But I mean, man, what you're in, you're in? Man,
yeah exactly. Then you go to wrestle Mania every year
and I'm going to Summer Slam in August.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
See, like I grew up with that, you know. I
grew up with like the Shawn Michaels course, Shohn Seen
and stuff like that, Like that was my and then
as soon as they also I see them still wrestling,
But it's not like the same.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Are you working on the project right now?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (20:41):
No? Yes, and the singles you can do the single
thing singles.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I want there to be like more of a demand
for a project than putting out a body of work
that I'm proud of. That kind of like falls on
deaf ears, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, it's because it's like I always tell people, until
you know the demand is there for album, and you'll
know when it's there. Yeah, Like dropping a whole body
of work is like a single shot into the algorithm.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Because you got to you gotta take to account. Right,
Drake just dropped three albums and Drake is one of
the biggest artists of our generation. I'm still skimming through
his album.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, No one, Like everyone's only talking about Iceman exactly.
Like it's crazy because the Habibi joints fire. I that
shit's hard, but no one's talking about that ship and
I'm like, yo, this shit is like some of the
best R and B. Drake we've ever gotten. Facts here,
the Maine Honor shit is not for me.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I haven't even got there yet. But that's my point though,
you know. So it's like getting them to attach and
gravitate to one song to three minutes and let alone
is hard. So once you drop ten songs or whatever.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I feel like, if you got ten records that you
feel strong about, that's ten different opportunities to shoot shots
into the algorithm, ten different different individual releases until like,
but you'll know, like when it's like I need to
drop a prober.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Or space them out. You know, if you got ten,
roll out three and depending on how those go, drop
the project together and throw those three back on the
project for sure, you know so, and it only adds
to extreame count. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So it How active are you in the studio? Are
you like in all the time.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
All the time? Yeah, all the time. Right now, it's
been kind of tough because like my my main engineers
working with Brody, they're doing some crazy shit for a
lot of artists. So and not only that, but we've
been on the road that past two months.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah, no, for sure. I mean the Ontario show was crazy, legendary.
Everybody in their mom came out. Yeah, we turned that
to a party. It was like it felt like one
of those like big radio shows. Yeah, it's like, damn
all in La came out at that motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
No. But the craziest part too, is it the one
in Glendale? Yeah, in As that one was so crazy
because it was like the homies were already there, like
its greedo, sad, greedo jeezy Kaylin, Kaylin, you know what
I mean. And it's like it towards j Z's end
(23:05):
of the set, everyone just came out on stage, show love,
you know what I mean. And that's where like the
vibe was, you know, we left, We left the venue like, bro,
we gotta do something like this. But in La, for sure,
you know what I mean, to where it's like, yeah,
I feel like those shot outs to Jason and those guys.
They always do who Wants Smoke shows, but they always
doing Ontario. But yeah, it's always like Ontario. I they
(23:26):
just sitting out to Vegas. But it's like they gotta
do the Forum. You know what I meant to do
the farm or something like to where it's more you
know for sure. But I mean I'm not mad at
it though, because already end of the day is a
good time.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You already got your next single picked out.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a single with me and Bravo.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
I just got.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I just sent it over to Big Sad on it too,
So I'm trying to wait a little bit so I
can get his verse. But be hard yet to get
all three guys on it. Come on. That's I'm telling
you that that one in itself, like with just Bravo
on it, is one of my favorite tracks I've made
in like two years.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
What's it like growing up in Pacoima, because Pacoima is
some of the best Mexican food in the world is
in Pacoima. Yeah, my East Coast be cracking out there. Yeah,
it's also probably in the valley considered like one of
it's probably the most dangerous city in the valley. It's
like probably Pacoima panoramic city.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, so I mean Pacoima. I would say it's just
an experience you got to like live, you know what
I mean, Everything from like the ice Cream Man, which
we hardly see nowadays, right, you know, to the palaeo. Man,
it's like the people who walk around with the corn.
(24:40):
I feel like my childhood was like for Pacoima in itself.
I didn't. I don't. I'm not gonna sit here and
say that I experienced a lot out of it because
you know, like I said, I'm talking. So I spent
a lot of my time with my cousins right or
and there's a lot of us. So I never felt
like I was missing anything. So it was either Pacoima
or North Hills, you know. So those are the two
(25:02):
places I bounced back and forth from because my family,
my grandma, like my home base basically from my like
my bloodline was right there in North Hills. But I
grew up where I grew up and where like I
laid my head and stuff like that. With Pacormia, you.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Never were like, uh, tempted to get into the gang
life because it is it is pretty active out there.
Obviously a lot of Hispanic gangs, you know, Perma part
rules out there.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Oh yeah, the two piece people. No, not really, I mean,
and it's not even that, it's not even that I
was like, obviously, people are influenced by what they're around
you know what I mean. But was I like tempted
to go from there? Not not really, but like a
lot of my family, a lot of my family members
bang yeah. So it was never like I'm seeing that.
(25:47):
Why would I wrap something else?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You know what I mean? Yeah, I feel like too,
It's like that it could go either way with that.
It's like if you see your family wrapped up in
some shit, it can deter you from like doing it.
It's almost like if you grew up around I'm like, like,
I've never done like hard drugs. Obviously smoking, we do
mushrooms all that shit, but I never did, like know,
like real I'm never goingn cocaine, never popped the pain pill,
(26:09):
no hardcore like real drugs. Because I saw like my
whole family's like tweakers and drug addicts and my caroin
addicts and shit. So I'm like that shit. I saw
that shit growing up, and I was just like, nah, shit.
I barely started smoking weed. I was like nineteen twenty,
you know what I mean. Like it wasn't like something
I was I would like, I wasn't smoking as a kid.
(26:29):
I wouldn't even I wasn't even drinking like that until
I turned twenty one.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, no, I feel it. I mean, and I feel
like if I played Pop warn Or two, it might've
turned out a little different. But I didn't like my childhood.
I was only doing basketball. So from like of age,
like six years old, you up until high school, I
was hooping.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, you know what I mean. So, did you ever
do the AAU thing? The AAU shit is crazy. It's
like a hustle. Dude. My son plays two different leagues.
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It's for real.
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Let's get back to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Yeah, so it was either I was hooping and then
got to high school and sowitched the whole program up
to football.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, how serious did the football dream get for you,
did you play, like consider going to college to play?
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Or nah? Hell, I don't even take my SATs. I knew,
like as soon as I knew from the get I
wasn't going to college.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
And then.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But both of my brothers, see like I got two brothers.
I got a older brother, yeah, and a younger brother.
My older brother, true Polynesian, true Polynesian, six four, like
three sixty five right now, just a specimen of a being.
We're only we're only like sixteen months apart. Crazy, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
But he's like true tonguing offensive lineman, ready to go
both offense and defense.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
He's a no tackle offensive defense. So he went to
UH he went to U of A. And then my
baby brother, he just he looked just like me. He
went to ASU. So my my parents went their whole
teams in a Yeah, my parents went two for three
rivals out there. Yeah exactly exactly when they go against
each other and ship like that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Are they currently in college now?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Not? My little brother graduated early and my older brother
graduated like years ago.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Like, if if you weren't doing music, what could you
see yourself doing professionally? Mmmm?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's a good one shore. I don't know. I don't know.
I had this dream of being a fireman. I mean
that could be fun, but other than that, I don't know,
Like I really because outside even when I was you
know how I told you, like I've been on and
off with music. Even when I was off the music,
I was around music, right, you know what I mean,
Like all my homies and rappers. So like one of
(30:01):
my best friends is Kaitln. Yeah, so when I was
off music, all I was doing was kicking it with
bro you know. So I would go to the studio,
but it wasn't for me, right you know. So he's
another person that kind of like really influenced me and
helped me out a lot because when I wasn't doing
nothing musically, he kind of like kept that spark alive,
right you know. So I was heavily, heavily influenced by
(30:25):
like his work ethic even his music in itself too,
because like he's a lot of bag yeah with the melody,
you know. So like one thing about bros, like he'll
work his ass off for sure. He'll work is and
a lot of people don't see it. He don't get
the recognition because obviously people don't see that side.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
But he Yeah, there's certain people who's like studio process,
you'd be like super tripped out by like damn, like
if they weren't really like And then you'll be in
like the studio with other people who like work a
little slower yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
You're like.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Like, yeah, like Kalen is one of those guys, like
my artist Alexis, this kid can do a whole fucking
album and like a fucking no.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
He saw I came here my last time here was
he he asked me to pull up, mind you, he'd
be up crackhead hours. He called me like three am.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
It's that cocaine.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, he called me three am and was like what
are you doing. I'm like, shit sleeping and he was
like pull up to pull up to the studio right now,
I'm gonna play my album crazy shit like you know.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
But yeah, it's like it's like when you like, I
feel like everyone has their own process. But when you're
in the studio with like if you're homiees like yo,
and then you get in the studio with somebody who
takes their time a little bit more, You're like, Yo,
these motherfuckers are slow.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, And it's and it's crazy because when we go
if me and Cale and go pull up on another
artist to do a feature or something like that, he
treats it. And this is what like I kind of
picked up on. He treats it as like a friendly competition,
you know, like as soon as he likes to be,
he's on it.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, and it.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Always just like stuns the other person.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Like damn, bro, Grito's like that.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
We had Grito get on some ship and Grito just
like he's like, all right, play it and he just
went in and just like, damn, your one take is versive.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah. No, Greta is another fast worker, too, super fast.
And then you go to like other studio sessions like
Jesus session, the control room quiet, nobody hears nothing until
it's done, you know what I mean. So like that's
also a trip too, because like it's different, you know,
so everyone's recording process is different. But I was blessed
and I was fortunate enough to like kind of pick
(32:26):
away at a lot of stuff and kind of just
take away what I like and see what I'm good
at and then just do it, you know, just practice
it on my own, Like when I step away from them,
So I definitely was like blessed in that sense.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
So you got the new record with Jeez going crazy.
You've been on the road because you guys just did Anchorage, Alaska. Yeah,
I mean music took you to Anchorage. That's gotta be crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
The craziest part is, like I'm going I'm I'm I'm
going with gis all these places with the mindset of
like I'm going there as support a lot of people,
a lot of or damn near nobody knows who I am, right,
So Angers was a trip because I'm walking through the
crowd to go send them my visuals like if you
(33:10):
played in the background, and it's like, mind you, there's
a lot of tongs out there that I didn't know.
I just found out that Alaska was a state. So
I'm I'm like tripped out. But I'm walking through the
crowd and it's like I'm getting stopped taking pictures like
you feelings like oh shoot, you're maka.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah. They have like I forget what the name of
because there's like the people who are native to Alaska
before it became a state. There's a name. I don't
want to fuck it up. They're not they don't like
to be called Eskimos. There's a name for him. It's
like a type of Native people out there, but they're
not Eskimos. That's I think that's kind of slurrish from
what I understand. I think.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So I think it's like, yeah, I think we're being
racist right now.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I don't mean, I don't mean to be. I just
I'm just off the head. But yeah, no, it's this
whole I mean, shout out to Alaska.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
It was cold, Uh, it was cold, but Colorado was colder.
Bro I was freezing Colorado.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You guys get Red Red Rocks, which is like one
of the most legendary venues man, and I was. Kevin
Gates was on the show too.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
He was a headliner. Yeah, he was a headliner. But
Red Rocks is probably the best venue I've ever been to.
You know, that ship's a movie. Even the drive up
was so scenic. It was like crazy, and it was raining,
so there was like a lot of red clay on
the floor. But I feel like he made the experience
a lot better. Like, you know, so that show, I'm
(34:27):
telling you was insane. I was surprised they didn't headline it,
but shout out Kevin Gate.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah. I mean I was telling Rory the same thing.
I was like, I was like, you guys, do you
guys get headline red Rocks like shots Kevin Gates. Kevin
Gates get headline red Rocks? He did, know I'm saying,
but I'm like, you guys got to go spin the
block on that ship.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Like now we they definitely talked to the right person,
so you know, there we might be at Red Rocks again.
But for the first time, that shit was dope, you
know what I mean. And I was even asking people
that were out there in Colorado. I was like, it's
Kevin Big out here. They're like, oh, dude, love Kevin.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Ye, people love bro Kevin Gates has a thing. Yeah,
it's He's huge, bro. And it's crazy too because like
it's like almost like turned into this like cult following
even though he's like a huge artist, Like people don't
understand how like committed his fans are.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
No. And see, that's what I preach to like a
lot of people and even to like my team, is
that I don't see music as the.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
End, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
So I Kevin Gates is a good example, but the
example I always use is like somebody like Blueface, right,
so their whole get down is like it doesn't even
matter if they drop music or not, or how long
it's been since they drop music. They have core fans
who are like they're in tune to what they're doing
as a personality.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, blue Face has turned the like his life into
a reality show for the.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Last six or seven in his work, and he's going crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
It works because people are so personally invested in his
life that they're like, yo, what's up with the baby
mama and the other baby mamas? And it's like, like
the toy's doing right now, it looks like it's going
very well, like blue Face. I mean even you know,
he took you know, I feel like a lot of
people think it's too late to get into the streaming game.
(36:11):
But he got got out of prison and got right
to the streaming shit. Yeah, I heard he just got
a crazy deal with Kick Like.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
But that's what a lot of people don't understand is that, like,
music can only get you so far, and you can
do really well in music, but if you can get
a group of people, I know, people that don't listen
to Blue Face and music but was tune into a stream,
you know what I mean, And it's all.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
And yeah, there's people who are Kevin Gates fan. That's
the only rapper they like, like you know what I mean,
Like for sure, you know.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
What I mean. So I like, I want to try
to use the music as like that driving factor to
give me to that point where it's like it doesn't
matter what I do, you know, because and everyone's situation
is different, Like people like Frank Ocean for being mysterious
for sure, you know what I mean. He's like the
only person who could really be named as a headliner
for Coachella and then pull out last minute.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
And as to his personality, his person adds.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
To the whatever the aura or like, because even when
he did perform that first weekend, it kind of didn't perform,
But he's like, I'm Frank Ocean, I do whatever the
funk I wanted exactly. He's like the mail Lauren Hill.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
And then people gonna go for it, yeah you know
what I mean. Like they're not canceling him because he
pulled out last minute. They're like, that's on Frank Ocean.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Shit have been I would have been mad. Likes almost
about tickets for my son to go, and I'm like,
I thank god I didn't.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I mean, a lot of people were mad at to
Justin Bieber.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I thought that ship was cool, But I also wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
You know. I thought that ship was a vibe. That's
the close thing you're gonna get to kicking it with JV,
you know what I mean, Like you want to know
what it's like the kid like.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's probably what it's gonna get hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
So I thought that ship was cool.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I thought it was I thought it was unique. I
never seen thating like that before, for sure.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Did you were you there? No? I just watched on
YouTube shout the beach Man. All right, man, we'll listen
to a new single on the way, hopefully with Big
Shad and Bravo's already on it. Yeah, record will though
Jezus out.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yes, sir, and then hopefully album coming out by the
end of this year. You know.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
So, where can people find you on? On Instagram and
all that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Oh, Macha underscore, underscore, Tea on Instagram, uh and everywhere else?
Really tiktoks the same thing, and then Maca on Apple
Music and Spotify.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Go support this guy, Macha appreciate you pulling up.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yes, love, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
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