February 7, 2023 • 41 mins
Esta semana en Latino USA, te compartimos un episodio del nuevo podcast “La Brega: La experiencia boricua en 8 canciones”, producida por WNYC Studios y Futuro Studios.
Inicialmente, "El gran varón" fue prohibida por algunas estaciones de radio, pero a pesar de esto, se convirtió en un éxito; muchos la consideran una de las salsas más conocidas de todos los tiempos. Omar Alfanno explica que la canción fue realmente inspirada por un rumor sobre un amigo de la vida real. Sólo años más tarde se dio cuenta de que sus letras contenían una profecía escalofriante.
En este episodio, la presentadora Alana Casanova-Burgess analiza la letra de “El gran varón” y cómo esta canción que critica a un padre por rechazar a su hijo cuir ha lastimado y a la vez ayudado a la comunidad LGBTQ+ y sus familias.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, dear listener. I'm producer Gini Montarvo. For today's show,
we bring you an episode from La Varea season two,
a new podcast series from our own Futuro Studios and
w n y C Studios about the Puerto Rican experience
through music. Each episode of Blarea has an English and
a Spanish version. Last week we shared with you episode
(00:21):
two in the series, Er grand Baron who was Simon,
and today OI will have for you that same episode.
But er grand Baron Simon, La Brea host Alana Casanova
Burgess has the rest of the story.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Here.
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Portala Sele create and Grande Mene. The best Music Para
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Gaby Rivera, Ken Cristi Bronx to Lafagna all Stars.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
When we went on car rides and we went to
Florida to visit relatives, my dad always had his awesome
music playing.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Gabi Rivera is Escritora, Jida, Marvel Comics, Familiar Florida, Las Alsa,
c and Pressonawa.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
And Ipoca Man Radio Latino man cant and Canta Lassa.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Papa gab Charlie Rivera, then.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Matro Riveraa Para Charlie.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Had Loisa is la veelde or lokello while juno.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Or classicos that's the ector Leabo Claro, Willie Cologne, Gaby
Recordada and la minivan blanca, supapa nina nameloda peculiar eloido.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You know there's a sassa break right where all of
a sudden, it's.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Like right like pegajosa dna swing in tones loa and
panga processor la letradrastes yea gab the sie centada econ
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centrada salsa v contando in estoria in usual, like what
is happening to this man.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Persona to this kid, and like it's talking about dresses
and putting on.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Lipstick baos his father won't visited porquees novi sita.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Ga where navi sara.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Geo laes porso pueto el grand baron Interpretorilli colonna exitos,
presa mire rechasa as por paragabiro pecavesas And I'm just trying.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
To piece it all together.
Speaker 8 (03:55):
La s la lal And I remember just asking, like
what is happening to Simon Marlo parend Simon.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Ferente laa And it was shocking to me that that
song existed, pagai erasi era Simon para studios e W
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N y C Studios, so a casa burgess rega episodio
track dos el grand Baron, king Eerra Simon, You see
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Simon al final common, numino existen seeing numero can lure,
contradict puerto rico I care jena, sexismo, trectoria personas ana
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particular mente contradictoria grand Baron, coundo real mene lootas, com
prendente it sal fo prime slo paragua personas mas paratros,
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lento difici rivera memoria importante.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
That song El gram Baron has always just been part
of the like energy of my life.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Gaviria de Simon simpresido parte li hia subida gavi sa
and frentalol sexismo, ila sex spectatia, familiares alredl Henro.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
We come up against a lot of like machismo. Your
mom and your tillas might tease you and might bully
you as well for being a feminine boy right or
a butch.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Girl transmitiat Commentario in Comoros. The tiasmaloua persona trance on
novinaria perencluso, antea closet, supierra lokezo, significas madre il vision,
(06:52):
la pulasa davang and pantaa na latine nunca quas is
us testinos ca er fatales a tiny grand baron larolatina
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romance well and really that sex.
Speaker 9 (07:17):
So for the improv Lalla rodriez to exito the Frankie
us case, that's not what the last and exitos.
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and Boston for current.
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And lassa palaa aura is the competing the.
Speaker 10 (07:52):
Romantic as a mongol as a sensual.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And matica and tesc yes la musica. The Vira compleja
consvanda grande by lave partis nuevas. Come on, WILLI colon.
Speaker 10 (08:11):
In the South Bronk.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, round a legenda, salceral, bronx utro, trombonra on.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
A persona mucosa more popular than.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Here, WILLI col on around Tippo, the Prodigio musical, Tlo
supremer ricola, grandel henro Ecto, lavo I ruben.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
Blades, tia um Brandicaci lot and el malo from Gangster
then Yo and les Matist, The Maliante.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Hero, Willia Rasoes, mah De Malo, Ma Fioso, pocas icosac
album Minnoue Top Secrets, No Small.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
Ta Secret Tennis School, Getafuera on a Personal Clan Tina
cons c I a Vargo PoTA Policia Policia is.
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An album novel El Grand Baron and l Radios and
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Pedro Navaja or Asuka, the Ripalmiri Progla SLSA include Maquir
Losia and Trod Marnell, Macharia, Termino sal and Puerto Rico,
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prive Sexismo and Ldia Aria yes A Toxicida, Macha Ra Tampos,
Salcero's Mass pro Sistas for the Hemplo and Loscena Rueen
Blades Grao, Ma Travida, Doncluyola and Nascimento Ramiro.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Naci, Nacio Ramiro, Nao, Ramero Senor Kenosa, Marica Keno La
a cant Tipo, The Frank Eletta, Raptin, Mando, l Steropla
(10:15):
Misma Best Sentil soci Is, Marlow Till La Persona Ua.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Poez Rule Nasa.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
Lad e la cambia for guess like quenta plarastin and pesso.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
A grand baron and minoret and bale la pati paso
passo comensa comamento Simon, Nacio Simon, par Simon to Andres
(11:01):
Orguyoso porquessimo Nacio aarn.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Ellgujo the Donandres or Servo.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And Tom says alex Lano no Sharon the pacific amente
pera Andrea or pressava.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Papa so jo ye se Simony and co ok let
Simon No, so you're pupping so your Simon Simon too grand.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Baro Ala can Simon and roamer it is al andresn
Simon No cambia natral persona episodio usa the tincto Simon
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la cancion el padre Donandres Slviano Reja Sara Simon.
Speaker 9 (12:07):
Anto esuand Andres the casimo you know Jegan Momento on
the s tipo reconcilai and io.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Conciun celebratorio Simon moere snaia Ulao then infermda mister jos
press pressol sida.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Unestra nja inl fermeda Marios.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Remo er if no penzarlo portuel grand Baron, salio po
momento la crisis, the lapidemia selverao.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
The legend says alen permola, madies Nadie.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Joro de nuelo, Charlie Rivera ns.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Apoc la siavano con media mundo you know, keuo saveel lof.
Speaker 10 (13:04):
Asu hunt the two yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Simon then tro second texts grand baron, you know.
Speaker 11 (13:30):
Ya p.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Consium meca your super super.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Villan recuerdaasen is a epoca and super gramma.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Gran baron.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Eli Cristio I crescio el grand baron la the billboard,
the last in quent popular lotpos pero e sono significa
kela mores ni.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Versal normosos n recordos called silos, cancian mostoland.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
S s Oelia patrana a suna YouTuber, comediante stand up
influencer Mexico.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So you transgendo I'm just ca cali mint and all
the control trans ike sea sado cercam or connigo para
occuparactos the.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Violeencia para ya perpetuela fal the kel transcendo no morezkela
cancion nuca is explicitamin teke simones, transno cambians.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Tripela diver s that is opro minus oi.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oelia maremosa, simon main gluejo, influenci ala borreto is that minala.
Speaker 12 (15:00):
Tod la cancion.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Just el grand baron, the croque to nacion in mensa
onto titanicos pena.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
La primera lina and secuntani gonico, simon, nace.
Speaker 12 (15:20):
Baron, s foca and nacer como.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Persona trance ol cane propia, eld clement persona sex signal
na RelA.
Speaker 12 (15:31):
Here a sinaco in a Persian contradzso.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Se converte and l foco. The tanta comersaies l na
ses versova le filo comoela le reguerdaa insistencia lae, the
refer persona trans hendero, persona bremuerto todad name. The constantamentosa
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elno erroneo is a less mis gendering es valencia c ironic.
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La porque repeat deficily c c c c madescu condres
and a persona.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
In elcorosa plamasutrnco and theresa ivaria, possi un yes hiro
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al padre andres mireio la porta ke ma lo como
soon lad ke algota Malcolm Simon ye posiilo suna lera
unam ra crouel the lo quir ham normal isaroo a
(17:06):
ke andressona queirs persona.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Trance paravamilias pero ma choca and elcorasson.
Speaker 12 (17:26):
Famili is.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Gabie Rivera, i'm frent is a contrac in la cancion.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So there is that element of like that lens right,
that hetero, maybe even homophobic, unintentional homophobic lens. You know,
they shouldn't have been wearing a dress, or why are
they're putting on lipstick.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Laes.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
This song is speaking to the older generation, my father's generation,
my generation.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
In sa Si, you gotta speak the language of the
vehitos racion sierra straightermano geymo mimo.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
The language that you use isn't necessarily the language that
he's going to use about himself.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Gabi Simon ubi rasiro elo lao tree.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
But the tree with the most leaves are the most
brilliant tree.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Mafieng uvira palomaso has i mapri and there Si simon
ubre critos propia cancion qisa tambieng elfino, rel Mimo, porquel
grantermina comola represent queer swelling terminal Lamberte.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Especially growing up in the eighties and nineties, always saw
all I saw was my queer elders, like dying of.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Huda criandos and Loventa verraz Mari, sida, la norma, per
paraga grand baron resoo, the forma tinta, yeah ya recordolaau
propea sara Simon, fulgola Marco.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
If these words could be spoken sung out loud, then
maybe there was like room for me to say my truth.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Bos alta and son says he really and bos alta.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
And to demand love and care.
Speaker 13 (19:46):
And also maybe I would fucking die alone for the
exi Amoricarinho Borghesi and prexistier Marisola Borgesa eladria cancium.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
That it would be something I might experience alone and
no one would care.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Sandos persona comona, simon affectae el doli idreiente cancion alfano
you sa the Panama the second since Spiro and persona
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real alaccio.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Con semos laga selveranose hell or who yo don andres.
Speaker 14 (20:49):
Yea latando LaBrea.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
L grand Baron, se Congabi scucases A dormentandos yes like
Toria de Simon. Let us know Alexander Propriamas was implemented
Atrasulta ke paras out la petro Memoria com panel mocho tempo.
Speaker 12 (22:04):
Alfano You saw the Panama.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
See not that's when I m Alfano Panama persona and
u perto Ricano montuas Yeah, do sa bona eta and persando.
(22:39):
You know Miami is and Gondro com barrio pa and
paron a recorder in in particular Arian Calfano or India Yama, Simon, he.
Speaker 15 (22:55):
Cas Simon, Simon s my Rico not almost Exulla Salva
Avian mave d s Para Despectiva parallelmo as.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well Bartelcira critic card considered a feminale.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
Pararembre to yo.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Macharania o Mariso Campagnero, continu.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
Chief di Parando.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Suda Simon, Panama Latino Americano, don a little closet, proce
and control com Machi Violento to Patrico, Canco, grand Baron, Conda,
Simon cele present Portunida, the Muarcia San Francisco, Nolo penzol
vessente lef.
Speaker 12 (23:54):
My Contaro, mellow Contaro.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Le Breneil Saa, simone, Rance.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
John for Lo Americano, commente Bron Simon person and real.
Speaker 12 (24:11):
L Altem.
Speaker 15 (24:14):
Super relator like Maria.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
And u he Americo.
Speaker 11 (24:26):
Piano is a ma.
Speaker 16 (24:30):
Slverano and orguo Andres's.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
A localos s excretory hasen s tom oliverta camiretta yes
is benol reto a comparaso su proprietoria no pus.
Speaker 10 (24:53):
Andress and in.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Tema de la pression familiar is a suspected you usla
simon lot modes, provida, bar lit mecont familiar, lano and
tita familiar pervamas, pola musica, logo de sa and spirarel
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grand baron you remo.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Remo, corrio, pola pala terminators as sec.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
La simona caxtran fermidadico if it is no penzarida sin
embargo alfao Marijo can rally that rima.
Speaker 10 (25:57):
The pull Monia, Mario Simo on cancer, murial Cio.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And lac elcida for an accident.
Speaker 10 (26:11):
On the list Ontra and.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Mar Es Momento hopital in San Francisco, Mariendo la in
fermidad J J.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Computrova provetica omo and soldad ocona compao reconnecto simon.
Speaker 15 (26:36):
Da no Carloai we said we como it.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Can Calfano aviendo and a m b and teke fromo simpli.
Speaker 17 (27:02):
Aloho avlonte s seramente lub sando montralo superference sexual car
So you know.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Alfana critic as ascoros a comparason prolematica. So we are
often the simla real pro mari is as intension, okay,
and it is a problem villa a la si mari
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u cambio and perro penske Serria exactly.
Speaker 10 (27:52):
Let you ab.
Speaker 15 (27:55):
So j cambia nada naa naaa.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Canna creation in Spirada and less experience a persona Realtoria
simon el interpretation or part Mara Alfano I willi Cologne
then Pastrana like YouTuber Comediante mainated.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
Local records of Elias Baron Scrito.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Maria Triste de milne uja persona s Vito paramal then
trod Victoria del grand Baron Peroi m simon.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
U l persona simo meentif montnge like I am semon
you know.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Anna Majo Artita Hener, Nobinario provenent cagas as a musica
pop urbana.
Speaker 10 (28:59):
First of all, Puerto Ricans love a good saying. They
love that and cant dicho the campo una pl yes.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
A cooro, controversial exactmentees.
Speaker 11 (29:13):
Croquia, quanto, sacon and coferente older generations so re queerness
come Albocenama sendreesaque to mundolo beholan Diomi.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Thenuelo man told no cele familiar del versola persona happens
sars Simon consio loke in correctos user Simon in Simon
episodio presenta elgoso, the la vida, the Simon persona el centro,
(29:57):
Simon lace andres Elea and Melioto and says Simon vivian vida.
Speaker 10 (30:07):
But I'm sure Simon was just living her best life.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Jana Machoda, I can know your post, Mam Condola, macho
rio meno.
Speaker 11 (30:24):
Tell h Jolas and Puerto Rican Jouett and Tomyria. My
family do Macau and so andre is in monsoon Macau.
Speaker 10 (30:37):
Okay, it was so vever and wente ok. I could
have swung.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeke and Puerto Rico not color rosa.
Speaker 11 (30:47):
Puerto Rica, Bien Critiano, Puerto Rico, bien Consolva Puerto Rica,
band Judgment.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Persona and Puerto Rico and Metro popularist So same rengue
reggaeton puelex is still a perception de ge perre pro
recio I liberalo.
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We're all just ja loos and distra cons and ba
Bannis Puerto Rican and citio sex Mane Puerto Rico and
Sido sexual.
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Is how.
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Femini City of Malta and l Mundo sebet Una epidemia,
the Voleencia Henro and to Largipi lago yas la comn
trans and Friends am Voalencia Constante and Febre Milbente alexand
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ne Gron Luciano unamu Transgendero fuchalla yes Sinala, Susata conte
film maroon Aco Sandola and Uvido viral Monsi.
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And Puerto Rico Forato transn.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
Alexis murder has shocked the conscience of people in Puerto rim.
Speaker 16 (31:55):
Trans Villa at tiros Parente grim and de odo.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Fuel Primo, singco, sinatos moest trans and Puerto Rico and
looks cold on the massacinatos transpho because o core and
in toto thousands and part com reporta so an amateur,
cribonrbida la doulo, cuerpa.
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Just a b m Fiel and comet mia Joe, I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Lo jocio Nacio, the conversation sorely peli ros seruna persona
trance and Puerto Rico unto dance and clay second.
Speaker 11 (32:51):
Come on came polcn po al commente, the migaj rabio
lem Betty million sale so looke migorio Shapu song Gonna
and Mario friend loping melaping your.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
Mela pas salle solely meso different saline this statement, the da.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Is lo masal alrich and andres celera, I said, look
important loans and the mass.
Speaker 10 (33:39):
Your messo super super excited. Tell me that you know
for ico come okay. People don't get to see how
happy and joy for we are because those are not
the story being told.
Speaker 12 (33:57):
So if you're party, it's my man.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Then of el patrana, the sugar in the center, vistas
lamente eta conmersasion being todas las conmersation familiar instoketermina and
la correct celebration lad massimon is the lavida.
Speaker 12 (34:18):
Real well in supermento.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Exist.
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If you result lens you then follow up lemas f
B and B the okay serscriptions manzanas cultural plot twist
now said that your levananda services lad, your croest cocon
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resc comica l service.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
In labda real and system fletra hicos felices it GISs
us comensos grand baron Charlie.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
You know, everyone is different, everyone is made in God's images.
We all love each other. And so the tenderness with
which my father explained that, and the way that he
was able to articulate elements about like L g B,
t Q identity right but without any judgment, that just
(35:48):
always struck me later.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Spreuios ImpACTA ga there's all this love, you know, and
this is a song that he never skips. Spare clexplicomo
no big deal soza.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
That gave me permission to come out. And I thought, well,
my father built that first bridge.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Between us gabi esso significa and padilla pasa la da
dera gabi and so tam being it's co and toldas
last Familiasencia and Contro and barrio cafes and a regular
(36:42):
mene and he just would.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Be there in his little suit, having just come from
his job at Castelo.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Gablo Reguerda Mediol village in Saint Marks.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Just standing in the back while his daughter is reciting
a poem about love being a girl.
Speaker 18 (37:00):
You know, the clamari publico, oh the pro Papa, I
still love, and they would tell him like, thank you
for being here, iueno come lass, Charlie pay.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Persona a serprendi and the presente and.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
People would be like, It's like he's standing in for
my dad, who I haven't talked to in twenty years.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Am sustu propio padres don andres grand baron no leos
Charlie s Fahi principal Dela and tolo momento.
Speaker 19 (37:45):
Barasi presacnsun mra do or die pre no para simon.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Aura Papa Mama sipo.
Speaker 16 (38:00):
Then Cambialuna massr baron a bian cute, Trilian cute and
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Cube and.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Cube segundo track the album that covers.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Los la.
Speaker 10 (38:34):
Ale Quarienti, Tresna.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Last perfect Amente An covers covered the Anna Maccho the Tansion.
Speaker 11 (38:49):
I decided to stick with as much as possible to
the original lyrics, just out of respect to this hypothetical
fictional character, like it's their journey.
Speaker 10 (38:59):
It's not trying to like project onto It and.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Camras Co, Alberta, Rosimon and Sucrason nor the Uncle of Simon,
Non Cambielo and covered Tna.
Speaker 11 (39:18):
In context Salon tran Square know as locals Comosdrasua.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Lavarsion, Compete El Grand Baron interpret Macho and Marso album
Competo lagaf the episode of Ala Casanova Burgess for A
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Tao for Mark Pagan, Victor, Ramo Rossello, I Prducido, Porgini, Montalvo, Gonada,
del Rodrigueandino Itaha Sandoval, Arriginal, Papilio, Esportma, Pagan, Nil, Gracias
et Semana, Akalila, Charbes of Elia, Patrana, Carmel, Alfano, Quiera,
Nunez in Nataly al Garin Elea, include Gini, Montalvo, Rodrigujandino,
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Joaquin Cutler, Liliana, Ruiz, Tasha, Sandoval, Mark Tagan, Maria Garcia, Victor,
Ramo Rossello, Juan Diego, Ramirez, Margon, Bishop Jenny Lawton, temporda
istra paceco Maria sol La de Latos de Sonido is
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Joe Flord, mister tema Esportife, la music Original balloon, Episodio
in tempo Ada and Mistro Sparafy playlist La Episodio in
All That they Like. Paragoa porque ra cres gala semana
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is the Tempora Laga existe gracias as the Melon Foundation,
yosojel and a Casanova purgas not memo Haaki paral proximo
track Numero tres suamene at Labroxima
Hello, dear listener. I'm producer Gini Montarvo. For today's show,
we bring you an episode from La Varea season two,
a new podcast series from our own Futuro Studios and
w n y C Studios about the Puerto Rican experience
through music. Each episode of Blarea has an English and
a Spanish version. Last week we shared with you episode
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two in the series, Er grand Baron who was Simon,
and today OI will have for you that same episode.
But er grand Baron Simon, La Brea host Alana Casanova
Burgess has the rest of the story.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
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Portala Sele create and Grande Mene. The best Music Para
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Gaby Rivera, Ken Cristi Bronx to Lafagna all Stars.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
When we went on car rides and we went to
Florida to visit relatives, my dad always had his awesome
music playing.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Gabi Rivera is Escritora, Jida, Marvel Comics, Familiar Florida, Las Alsa,
c and Pressonawa.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
And Ipoca Man Radio Latino man cant and Canta Lassa.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Papa gab Charlie Rivera, then.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Matro Riveraa Para Charlie.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Had Loisa is la veelde or lokello while juno.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Or classicos that's the ector Leabo Claro, Willie Cologne, Gaby
Recordada and la minivan blanca, supapa nina nameloda peculiar eloido.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You know there's a sassa break right where all of
a sudden, it's.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Like right like pegajosa dna swing in tones loa and
panga processor la letradrastes yea gab the sie centada econ
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centrada salsa v contando in estoria in usual, like what
is happening to this man.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Persona to this kid, and like it's talking about dresses
and putting on.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Lipstick baos his father won't visited porquees novi sita.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Ga where navi sara.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Geo laes porso pueto el grand baron Interpretorilli colonna exitos,
presa mire rechasa as por paragabiro pecavesas And I'm just trying.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
To piece it all together.
Speaker 8 (03:55):
La s la lal And I remember just asking, like
what is happening to Simon Marlo parend Simon.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Ferente laa And it was shocking to me that that
song existed, pagai erasi era Simon para studios e W
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N y C Studios, so a casa burgess rega episodio
track dos el grand Baron, king Eerra Simon, You see
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Simon al final common, numino existen seeing numero can lure,
contradict puerto rico I care jena, sexismo, trectoria personas ana
(05:15):
particular mente contradictoria grand Baron, coundo real mene lootas, com
prendente it sal fo prime slo paragua personas mas paratros,
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lento difici rivera memoria importante.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
That song El gram Baron has always just been part
of the like energy of my life.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Gaviria de Simon simpresido parte li hia subida gavi sa
and frentalol sexismo, ila sex spectatia, familiares alredl Henro.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
We come up against a lot of like machismo. Your
mom and your tillas might tease you and might bully
you as well for being a feminine boy right or
a butch.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Girl transmitiat Commentario in Comoros. The tiasmaloua persona trance on
novinaria perencluso, antea closet, supierra lokezo, significas madre il vision,
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la pulasa davang and pantaa na latine nunca quas is
us testinos ca er fatales a tiny grand baron larolatina
(07:13):
romance well and really that sex.
Speaker 9 (07:17):
So for the improv Lalla rodriez to exito the Frankie
us case, that's not what the last and exitos.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Jo mass locator programmer Consulta the w b U R
and Boston for current.
Speaker 9 (07:44):
And lassa palaa aura is the competing the.
Speaker 10 (07:52):
Romantic as a mongol as a sensual.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And matica and tesc yes la musica. The Vira compleja
consvanda grande by lave partis nuevas. Come on, WILLI colon.
Speaker 10 (08:11):
In the South Bronk.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Yeah, round a legenda, salceral, bronx utro, trombonra on.
Speaker 9 (08:19):
A persona mucosa more popular than.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Here, WILLI col on around Tippo, the Prodigio musical, Tlo
supremer ricola, grandel henro Ecto, lavo I ruben.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
Blades, tia um Brandicaci lot and el malo from Gangster
then Yo and les Matist, The Maliante.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Hero, Willia Rasoes, mah De Malo, Ma Fioso, pocas icosac
album Minnoue Top Secrets, No Small.
Speaker 9 (08:59):
Ta Secret Tennis School, Getafuera on a Personal Clan Tina
cons c I a Vargo PoTA Policia Policia is.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
An album novel El Grand Baron and l Radios and
avan Can Cortas of Rex Aviatma, the Larga Racion, Como
Pedro Navaja or Asuka, the Ripalmiri Progla SLSA include Maquir
Losia and Trod Marnell, Macharia, Termino sal and Puerto Rico,
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prive Sexismo and Ldia Aria yes A Toxicida, Macha Ra Tampos,
Salcero's Mass pro Sistas for the Hemplo and Loscena Rueen
Blades Grao, Ma Travida, Doncluyola and Nascimento Ramiro.
Speaker 9 (09:55):
Naci, Nacio Ramiro, Nao, Ramero Senor Kenosa, Marica Keno La
a cant Tipo, The Frank Eletta, Raptin, Mando, l Steropla
(10:15):
Misma Best Sentil soci Is, Marlow Till La Persona Ua.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Poez Rule Nasa.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
Lad e la cambia for guess like quenta plarastin and pesso.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
A grand baron and minoret and bale la pati paso
passo comensa comamento Simon, Nacio Simon, par Simon to Andres
(11:01):
Orguyoso porquessimo Nacio aarn.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
Ellgujo the Donandres or Servo.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
And Tom says alex Lano no Sharon the pacific amente
pera Andrea or pressava.
Speaker 9 (11:28):
Papa so jo ye se Simony and co ok let
Simon No, so you're pupping so your Simon Simon too grand.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Baro Ala can Simon and roamer it is al andresn
Simon No cambia natral persona episodio usa the tincto Simon
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la cancion el padre Donandres Slviano Reja Sara Simon.
Speaker 9 (12:07):
Anto esuand Andres the casimo you know Jegan Momento on
the s tipo reconcilai and io.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Conciun celebratorio Simon moere snaia Ulao then infermda mister jos
press pressol sida.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Unestra nja inl fermeda Marios.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Remo er if no penzarlo portuel grand Baron, salio po
momento la crisis, the lapidemia selverao.
Speaker 8 (12:43):
The legend says alen permola, madies Nadie.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Joro de nuelo, Charlie Rivera ns.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Apoc la siavano con media mundo you know, keuo saveel lof.
Speaker 10 (13:04):
Asu hunt the two yourself.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Simon then tro second texts grand baron, you know.
Speaker 11 (13:30):
Ya p.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Consium meca your super super.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Villan recuerdaasen is a epoca and super gramma.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Gran baron.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Eli Cristio I crescio el grand baron la the billboard,
the last in quent popular lotpos pero e sono significa
kela mores ni.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Versal normosos n recordos called silos, cancian mostoland.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
S s Oelia patrana a suna YouTuber, comediante stand up
influencer Mexico.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So you transgendo I'm just ca cali mint and all
the control trans ike sea sado cercam or connigo para
occuparactos the.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Violeencia para ya perpetuela fal the kel transcendo no morezkela
cancion nuca is explicitamin teke simones, transno cambians.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Tripela diver s that is opro minus oi.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oelia maremosa, simon main gluejo, influenci ala borreto is that minala.
Speaker 12 (15:00):
Tod la cancion.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Just el grand baron, the croque to nacion in mensa
onto titanicos pena.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
La primera lina and secuntani gonico, simon, nace.
Speaker 12 (15:20):
Baron, s foca and nacer como.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Persona trance ol cane propia, eld clement persona sex signal
na RelA.
Speaker 12 (15:31):
Here a sinaco in a Persian contradzso.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Se converte and l foco. The tanta comersaies l na
ses versova le filo comoela le reguerdaa insistencia lae, the
refer persona trans hendero, persona bremuerto todad name. The constantamentosa
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elno erroneo is a less mis gendering es valencia c ironic.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
La porque repeat deficily c c c c madescu condres
and a persona.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
In elcorosa plamasutrnco and theresa ivaria, possi un yes hiro
(16:38):
al padre andres mireio la porta ke ma lo como
soon lad ke algota Malcolm Simon ye posiilo suna lera
unam ra crouel the lo quir ham normal isaroo a
(17:06):
ke andressona queirs persona.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Trance paravamilias pero ma choca and elcorasson.
Speaker 12 (17:26):
Famili is.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Gabie Rivera, i'm frent is a contrac in la cancion.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
So there is that element of like that lens right,
that hetero, maybe even homophobic, unintentional homophobic lens. You know,
they shouldn't have been wearing a dress, or why are
they're putting on lipstick.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Laes.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
This song is speaking to the older generation, my father's generation,
my generation.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
In sa Si, you gotta speak the language of the
vehitos racion sierra straightermano geymo mimo.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
The language that you use isn't necessarily the language that
he's going to use about himself.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Gabi Simon ubi rasiro elo lao tree.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
But the tree with the most leaves are the most
brilliant tree.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Mafieng uvira palomaso has i mapri and there Si simon
ubre critos propia cancion qisa tambieng elfino, rel Mimo, porquel
grantermina comola represent queer swelling terminal Lamberte.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Especially growing up in the eighties and nineties, always saw
all I saw was my queer elders, like dying of.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Huda criandos and Loventa verraz Mari, sida, la norma, per
paraga grand baron resoo, the forma tinta, yeah ya recordolaau
propea sara Simon, fulgola Marco.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
If these words could be spoken sung out loud, then
maybe there was like room for me to say my truth.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Bos alta and son says he really and bos alta.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
And to demand love and care.
Speaker 13 (19:46):
And also maybe I would fucking die alone for the
exi Amoricarinho Borghesi and prexistier Marisola Borgesa eladria cancium.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
That it would be something I might experience alone and
no one would care.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Sandos persona comona, simon affectae el doli idreiente cancion alfano
you sa the Panama the second since Spiro and persona
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real alaccio.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Con semos laga selveranose hell or who yo don andres.
Speaker 14 (20:49):
Yea latando LaBrea.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
L grand Baron, se Congabi scucases A dormentandos yes like
Toria de Simon. Let us know Alexander Propriamas was implemented
Atrasulta ke paras out la petro Memoria com panel mocho tempo.
Speaker 12 (22:04):
Alfano You saw the Panama.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
See not that's when I m Alfano Panama persona and
u perto Ricano montuas Yeah, do sa bona eta and persando.
(22:39):
You know Miami is and Gondro com barrio pa and
paron a recorder in in particular Arian Calfano or India Yama, Simon, he.
Speaker 15 (22:55):
Cas Simon, Simon s my Rico not almost Exulla Salva
Avian mave d s Para Despectiva parallelmo as.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well Bartelcira critic card considered a feminale.
Speaker 12 (23:15):
Pararembre to yo.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Macharania o Mariso Campagnero, continu.
Speaker 10 (23:27):
Chief di Parando.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Suda Simon, Panama Latino Americano, don a little closet, proce
and control com Machi Violento to Patrico, Canco, grand Baron, Conda,
Simon cele present Portunida, the Muarcia San Francisco, Nolo penzol
vessente lef.
Speaker 12 (23:54):
My Contaro, mellow Contaro.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Le Breneil Saa, simone, Rance.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
John for Lo Americano, commente Bron Simon person and real.
Speaker 12 (24:11):
L Altem.
Speaker 15 (24:14):
Super relator like Maria.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
And u he Americo.
Speaker 11 (24:26):
Piano is a ma.
Speaker 16 (24:30):
Slverano and orguo Andres's.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
A localos s excretory hasen s tom oliverta camiretta yes
is benol reto a comparaso su proprietoria no pus.
Speaker 10 (24:53):
Andress and in.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Tema de la pression familiar is a suspected you usla
simon lot modes, provida, bar lit mecont familiar, lano and
tita familiar pervamas, pola musica, logo de sa and spirarel
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grand baron you remo.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Remo, corrio, pola pala terminators as sec.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
La simona caxtran fermidadico if it is no penzarida sin
embargo alfao Marijo can rally that rima.
Speaker 10 (25:57):
The pull Monia, Mario Simo on cancer, murial Cio.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
And lac elcida for an accident.
Speaker 10 (26:11):
On the list Ontra and.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Mar Es Momento hopital in San Francisco, Mariendo la in
fermidad J J.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
Computrova provetica omo and soldad ocona compao reconnecto simon.
Speaker 15 (26:36):
Da no Carloai we said we como it.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Can Calfano aviendo and a m b and teke fromo simpli.
Speaker 17 (27:02):
Aloho avlonte s seramente lub sando montralo superference sexual car
So you know.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Alfana critic as ascoros a comparason prolematica. So we are
often the simla real pro mari is as intension, okay,
and it is a problem villa a la si mari
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u cambio and perro penske Serria exactly.
Speaker 10 (27:52):
Let you ab.
Speaker 15 (27:55):
So j cambia nada naa naaa.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Canna creation in Spirada and less experience a persona Realtoria
simon el interpretation or part Mara Alfano I willi Cologne
then Pastrana like YouTuber Comediante mainated.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
Local records of Elias Baron Scrito.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Maria Triste de milne uja persona s Vito paramal then
trod Victoria del grand Baron Peroi m simon.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
U l persona simo meentif montnge like I am semon
you know.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Anna Majo Artita Hener, Nobinario provenent cagas as a musica
pop urbana.
Speaker 10 (28:59):
First of all, Puerto Ricans love a good saying. They
love that and cant dicho the campo una pl yes.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
A cooro, controversial exactmentees.
Speaker 11 (29:13):
Croquia, quanto, sacon and coferente older generations so re queerness
come Albocenama sendreesaque to mundolo beholan Diomi.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Thenuelo man told no cele familiar del versola persona happens
sars Simon consio loke in correctos user Simon in Simon
episodio presenta elgoso, the la vida, the Simon persona el centro,
(29:57):
Simon lace andres Elea and Melioto and says Simon vivian vida.
Speaker 10 (30:07):
But I'm sure Simon was just living her best life.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Jana Machoda, I can know your post, Mam Condola, macho
rio meno.
Speaker 11 (30:24):
Tell h Jolas and Puerto Rican Jouett and Tomyria. My
family do Macau and so andre is in monsoon Macau.
Speaker 10 (30:37):
Okay, it was so vever and wente ok. I could
have swung.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeke and Puerto Rico not color rosa.
Speaker 11 (30:47):
Puerto Rica, Bien Critiano, Puerto Rico, bien Consolva Puerto Rica,
band Judgment.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Persona and Puerto Rico and Metro popularist So same rengue
reggaeton puelex is still a perception de ge perre pro
recio I liberalo.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
We're all just ja loos and distra cons and ba
Bannis Puerto Rican and citio sex Mane Puerto Rico and
Sido sexual.
Speaker 12 (31:15):
Is how.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
American and de liberta Sivilles, Puerto Rico con laasas the
Femini City of Malta and l Mundo sebet Una epidemia,
the Voleencia Henro and to Largipi lago yas la comn
trans and Friends am Voalencia Constante and Febre Milbente alexand
(31:38):
ne Gron Luciano unamu Transgendero fuchalla yes Sinala, Susata conte
film maroon Aco Sandola and Uvido viral Monsi.
Speaker 14 (31:48):
And Puerto Rico Forato transn.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
Alexis murder has shocked the conscience of people in Puerto rim.
Speaker 16 (31:55):
Trans Villa at tiros Parente grim and de odo.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Fuel Primo, singco, sinatos moest trans and Puerto Rico and
looks cold on the massacinatos transpho because o core and
in toto thousands and part com reporta so an amateur,
cribonrbida la doulo, cuerpa.
Speaker 10 (32:31):
Just a b m Fiel and comet mia Joe, I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Lo jocio Nacio, the conversation sorely peli ros seruna persona
trance and Puerto Rico unto dance and clay second.
Speaker 11 (32:51):
Come on came polcn po al commente, the migaj rabio
lem Betty million sale so looke migorio Shapu song Gonna
and Mario friend loping melaping your.
Speaker 10 (33:16):
Mela pas salle solely meso different saline this statement, the da.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Is lo masal alrich and andres celera, I said, look
important loans and the mass.
Speaker 10 (33:39):
Your messo super super excited. Tell me that you know
for ico come okay. People don't get to see how
happy and joy for we are because those are not
the story being told.
Speaker 12 (33:57):
So if you're party, it's my man.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Then of el patrana, the sugar in the center, vistas
lamente eta conmersasion being todas las conmersation familiar instoketermina and
la correct celebration lad massimon is the lavida.
Speaker 12 (34:18):
Real well in supermento.
Speaker 8 (34:22):
Exist.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
If you result lens you then follow up lemas f
B and B the okay serscriptions manzanas cultural plot twist
now said that your levananda services lad, your croest cocon
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resc comica l service.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
In labda real and system fletra hicos felices it GISs
us comensos grand baron Charlie.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
You know, everyone is different, everyone is made in God's images.
We all love each other. And so the tenderness with
which my father explained that, and the way that he
was able to articulate elements about like L g B,
t Q identity right but without any judgment, that just
(35:48):
always struck me later.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Spreuios ImpACTA ga there's all this love, you know, and
this is a song that he never skips. Spare clexplicomo
no big deal soza.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
That gave me permission to come out. And I thought, well,
my father built that first bridge.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Between us gabi esso significa and padilla pasa la da
dera gabi and so tam being it's co and toldas
last Familiasencia and Contro and barrio cafes and a regular
(36:42):
mene and he just would.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Be there in his little suit, having just come from
his job at Castelo.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Gablo Reguerda Mediol village in Saint Marks.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Just standing in the back while his daughter is reciting
a poem about love being a girl.
Speaker 18 (37:00):
You know, the clamari publico, oh the pro Papa, I
still love, and they would tell him like, thank you
for being here, iueno come lass, Charlie pay.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Persona a serprendi and the presente and.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
People would be like, It's like he's standing in for
my dad, who I haven't talked to in twenty years.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Am sustu propio padres don andres grand baron no leos
Charlie s Fahi principal Dela and tolo momento.
Speaker 19 (37:45):
Barasi presacnsun mra do or die pre no para simon.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Aura Papa Mama sipo.
Speaker 16 (38:00):
Then Cambialuna massr baron a bian cute, Trilian cute and
(38:23):
Cube and.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Cube segundo track the album that covers.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Los la.
Speaker 10 (38:34):
Ale Quarienti, Tresna.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Last perfect Amente An covers covered the Anna Maccho the Tansion.
Speaker 11 (38:49):
I decided to stick with as much as possible to
the original lyrics, just out of respect to this hypothetical
fictional character, like it's their journey.
Speaker 10 (38:59):
It's not trying to like project onto It and.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Camras Co, Alberta, Rosimon and Sucrason nor the Uncle of Simon,
Non Cambielo and covered Tna.
Speaker 11 (39:18):
In context Salon tran Square know as locals Comosdrasua.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Lavarsion, Compete El Grand Baron interpret Macho and Marso album
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in tempo Ada and Mistro Sparafy playlist La Episodio in
All That they Like. Paragoa porque ra cres gala semana
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