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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So you're alive. Yeah, it feels good, right. I didn't
die last night, happy about that.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Woke up this morning, hearts still beating, breathing, didn't stop
breathing overnight. And I gotta tell you, as far as
breathing goes or not breathing, I prefer it.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, it's a probably a good thing to go with that.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, pro breathing. A lot going on this week. We're
gonna you know, it's Friday, first of Austin. Thanks for
joining us here in the Walton and Johnson Radio Network.
We're gonna take a look at all the things that
happened this week, and of course the things that happen
over the last twenty four hours. Donald Trump heading home
from the Mid East. Looks like Tiffany Trump popped out
a little baby. That's exciting. The Supreme Court hearing a
case on birthright citizenship, updates on the p Didy trial.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Justin Bieber wing in on all of that, and apparently.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
The former FBI director James Comy making some veiled thread
on Instagram to kill Donald Trump, supposedly purportedly.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It depends on how you interpret it. It can be
interpreted a couple of different ways. Could be just kick
him out of office, could be kill him good. But
he woke up not dead again this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, apparently he's alive. Yeah, or has he just been
awake all night? Av guy's got to be sleep deprived.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Does seem like he doesn't get a lot of sleep,
and sometimes it seems like he might need it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It does, especially this week. Yeah, Okay, so where to start?
Why don't we start off with this? The Supreme Court
mauled whether judges should be allowed to extend injunctive relief
to the entire country in a very lively argument yesterday.
It all had to do with Trump's efforts to narrow
birthright citizenship. In the Constitution, there is an amendment that
(01:39):
says that if you're born here, you're a citizen, and
it was written because black people were enslaved in a
system created by the British monarchy. Now, I'm sure most
of us agree slavery's bad, but it was never intended
to be used by like portly pregnant Guatemalan women want
(02:00):
to run over an invisible line and squeeze out a baby.
That wasn't the point of the law. So now the
Supreme Court's got to sit down and say, hey, we
all know this is being abused. It's being misused. The
practice of issuing nationwide or universal injunctions is drawing some criticism.
It has divided the Supreme Court. The argument bled into
(02:22):
the actual constitutionality of Trump's order and whether Trump and
these people would abide by court precedence. So there's a
few takeaways here. The conservatives are questioning the need for
universal injunctions, and the liberal justices are defending the nationwide relief.
The justices are searching for a path to rule on
(02:42):
the Fourteenth Amendment. Very interesting to hear this conversation happening,
and the rule of law is emerging as a key
theme here. What does specifically does the law say? So
they haven't finished this yet, obviously they're still arguing about it.
Isn't it odd that you can listen to the Supreme
Court but you can see them.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It is odd. Are they even wearing pants? Probably not?
What is it with federal courts?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Because the p didty trials the same way? You're not
allowed to bring cameras in there? Why can you bring
cameras into a municipal traffic court in Tulsa, Oklahoma?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah? You could do that. Sure.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Can you bring cameras into a murder trial? And Compton
and Losent? Sure, yeah, bring them in. They love that.
Can I bring cameras into a hearing and a federal
court to determine whether or not the fourteenth Amendments stop
right there?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
No? But why because we don't want you to? How come?
Because that's the way it is? Because I said, so, yeah,
did you grow up with that rule? You know? Because
I said, that's why?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So I grew up in the later half of the
twentieth century, the eighties and the nineties, and back then,
our parents used to often tell us if we didn't
finish our dinner that there were people in China who
were starving that would want to eat it. And just
to give you an idea of how long ago that was,
those people in China are now billionaires.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Oh yeah, and they're not starving or are they? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I haven't seen what they're eating. I haven't actually met
any of them, but they do a lot of money.
Of all the countries to choose, you chose China that
didn't age well, that aged like cheese. I had what
was it last night for dinner? Spanish Portuguese food, it
is not bad. But when you're eating in a Portuguese restaurant,
(04:22):
they have all these African drums playing, and I wonder
do they know.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
That it's in Europe. The well, let's just right there though.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
You know, if you looked out your window in Portuguese,
you know you could probably see Africa from your kitchen window.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Right. Oh yeah, sure, It's just like Russia and Alaska.
Yeah right there. In fact, I think Sarah Palin lives
there a week out of your life. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Now, sit back, relax and enjoy the greatest show on Earth.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
The ego on you Walton and Johnson Radio Network, like.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
What the roles are now that gingers are considered black?
And I don't even know if we could play the
clip on the air.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And does one person proclaiming it make it a rule
for all?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, So one person pointed out that redheads and black
people are both sharing an experience of marginalization and oppression
that's very similar. That involves weird stereotypes like gingers don't
have souls, for example, And it's just brought up a
lot of questions like can you still say that er
at the end of the word, or do you have
(05:25):
to do an a soft a.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Gingjah, he's ainga tinga. I don't know. We don't know
the rules. They make them up every day. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
To remind y'all again, everyone who is ginger, who has
red hair, those are black people. All gingers are black people.
If they have red hair, they are black.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So one person on TikTok made this point, and it
is spread like wildfire.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I mean, people have really latched onto this.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I think partly because there's people that want it to
be true, and then also because there's people that just
think it's funny.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It is rather entertaining.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I admit that it's funny, but I don't actually have
a horse in this race.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't. I mean they're not the same, right.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You know, someone has red hair and they sunburn easily.
That can't be the same thing as being good at basketball.
That doesn't seem the naked. How come there's no red
heads in the NBA. Let's start with that. I don't
know that they're not, but I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, hang on it.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
No, I mean, you know, do you watch the NBA regularly?
All the teams?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I mean, it's always a guy from you don't it's
always a guy from Eastern Europe, you know what I mean?
If it's a white guy, and those Eastern europe people
are never redheads. Okay, So Blake Griffin, was he a
redhead with the La Clippers?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Kind of Bill Walton kind of a redhead? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Okay, fine, there's two. Dennis Rodman, depending on what color's
hair was at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I don't think he counts though. I'm just saying it's
not the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And then redheads don't eat spicy food usually, right so,
and soul food right in, and a thing in the community.
It's a I'm just saying, Look, I'm not trying to stereotype.
These are cultural examples of things that happen in a community.
And is there even a redheaded community? Is there a
ginger community? I don't know that there is one. They
have Ebony magazine, there's no ginger magazine, And frankly, why
(07:16):
isn't there?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well, that's something you should think about starting.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
How about a ginger news out like ause, Gingers need
probably a higher SPF. And I'm just saying ginger willy nilly,
I'd never say the n words, certainly not on the
radio and lose my job.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Should you be allowed to say ginger?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I mean, these are all questions we have to We
really got to spend a whole weekend, I think, really
pondering these questions and get back in here on Monday
with a fresh start.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I mean, I don't know what the answers are. I
want to know. I'm willing to.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Respect the cultural differences. I'm willing to acknowledge them, but
first somebody has to define what the rules are before
I can adhere to them. You know, I'm just a
at the end of the day, I'm just a caveman.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
All these rules about gender pronouns and different sub cultures
of races and ethnicities frightened and confuse me. I don't
know what I'm supposed to do with them. Have this
blinking box on the wall, there's a little guy trapped
inside explaining to me that I'm a racist, a sexist,
and a transphobe.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And I don't know how he got in the box,
but he's you know, you can't argue with him. He says,
it's true, it must be true.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Even more confusing, how is a guy like that who
looks as masculine as he does. Get named Rachel Maddow.
That doesn't make any sense. Nobody knows. These are secrets
that we will probably never figure out. Yesterday I heard
somebody out loud, in his serious voice, without unironically say
that the funniest person on TV is Rachel Maddow funniest
and I said, you know, I agree with you, I'm
that And then it occurred to me we were not
(08:39):
talking about the same thing.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You don't even have the volume up and you find
that person to be humorous.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Somebody said, you know, it just looks funny. Yeah, absolutely,
kind of.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It's funny too, because if you watch MSNBC and you
put Joe Scarborough next to Rachel Maddow, if you had
two and a half beers, you wouldn't know who was
you wouldn't. Do you think Mika Brazinski ever got runk
at the office Christmas party in hootup with Rachel.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Madow every Christmas? I think, so, how do have happened? Right? Oh? Yeah, anyway,
that's the world you live in.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Poor Joe. Maybe Joe got drunk and hotep with Rachel Mattow.
He thought he was making love to himself could be
lucky guy. Anyway, We're we're gonna on some new beds
here at your favorite morning show. You know, we're working.
We're gonna sprinkle some stuff in here. I think I
want to start doing a segment on the show called
Tinfoil Hat Times, Okay, where we.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Just talk about different conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You know, the obvious want would be gay frogs with
the chemicals in the water.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, yeah, been done to death. Huh, But it's a
classic example of the kind of thing we could do. Right.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Uh, did did he rape Justin Bieber? There's a conspiracy?
Justin says no, But.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You brought up those Michael Jackson victims from so many
years ago when they were little kids that people were
asking them, you know, hey, what happened back then? You know,
with you it was like, no, Michael didn't. Then time
passed and they felt a little more comfortable. I guess,
oh yeah, well, okay, you did a little right On
said he didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I know, but you know, he kind of did.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
One of Michael Jackson's most famous accusers originally said that
nothing had ever happened between the two. He thought it
was ridiculous, and then years later he sat down and
he did a like a three hour documentary for HBO
where he just told story after story vividly, and they
were horrific. It was like watching a snuff film. Some
(10:26):
of this stuff. He said.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
One of the.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Stories involved like staring at Michael Jackson while he did
something obscene and Michael was standing in front of a
cardboard cutout of Peter Pan And for some reason, the
Peter Pan part made the story so much creepier.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, I did anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And then you have a treehouse or something that he
used to like to take the kids up to.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yes, in Neverland? Is that what it was called? The
not Neverland? What did he call it? The place where
he lived, never Land Ranch?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Right? I think.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
So he lived he had a room kind of by
the pool, and you'd walk upstairs and there were lights
and alarms and stuff, so if anybody came up there,
he would be alerted to the fact that someone was
on their way. It was a long walk up a staircase,
and as you're walking up there'd be little bells that
would ring and lights would go off, so that if
(11:18):
anyone was at the top of the stairs. And then
when you got all the way up there. The walls
were just covered in pictures of Disney characters and child
stars like mcaulay culkin, who Michael was friends with over
the years.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's weird that you tell it like you were there.
Do you have something to share?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Look, twenty bucks is twenty bucks, you know exactly. No,
I just watched all this stuff on TV. Who is
the guy?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
There was like a British Indian guy who famously got
a tour of Neverland Ranch.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, he's the one that did all the interviews with
him and all for our younger listeners.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You won't remember this, but there was a point where
the general opinion about Michael Jackson changed almost overnight. It
went from being a far fetched conspiracy theory that he
had done things with these kids. And then I was
at ABC or CBS, one of the major networks, and
a guy, a member of the paparazzi to go interview Michael,
and he did a tour of the house and he
just showed you all the weird stuff. And there was
(12:15):
a part of this show where he Michael talked about
having sleepovers with little boys and how normal it was, Yeah,
just to have.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Them all in his bed, like if he had, you know,
half a dozen golden labs.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, I just let him all sleep in the bed
with me. It's fun.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And that was when most people in America, after many,
many years of hearing these rumors and asking themselves that
they were true, finally realized that Prince was a cooler musician.
There was just no doubt about. I'm ready for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's going to be a banging party. There's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Drinking involved a party.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Walton and Johnson Radio Network
So you're alive. Yeah, it feels good, right. I didn't
die last night, happy about that.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Woke up this morning, hearts still beating, breathing, didn't stop
breathing overnight. And I gotta tell you, as far as
breathing goes or not breathing, I prefer it.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yeah, it's a probably a good thing to go with that.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, pro breathing. A lot going on this week. We're
gonna you know, it's Friday, first of Austin. Thanks for
joining us here in the Walton and Johnson Radio Network.
We're gonna take a look at all the things that
happened this week, and of course the things that happen
over the last twenty four hours. Donald Trump heading home
from the Mid East. Looks like Tiffany Trump popped out
a little baby. That's exciting. The Supreme Court hearing a
case on birthright citizenship, updates on the p Didy trial.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Justin Bieber wing in on all of that, and apparently.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
The former FBI director James Comy making some veiled thread
on Instagram to kill Donald Trump, supposedly purportedly.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
It depends on how you interpret it. It can be
interpreted a couple of different ways. Could be just kick
him out of office, could be kill him good. But
he woke up not dead again this morning.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, apparently he's alive. Yeah, or has he just been
awake all night? Av guy's got to be sleep deprived.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Does seem like he doesn't get a lot of sleep,
and sometimes it seems like he might need it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It does, especially this week. Yeah, Okay, so where to start?
Why don't we start off with this? The Supreme Court
mauled whether judges should be allowed to extend injunctive relief
to the entire country in a very lively argument yesterday.
It all had to do with Trump's efforts to narrow
birthright citizenship. In the Constitution, there is an amendment that
(01:39):
says that if you're born here, you're a citizen, and
it was written because black people were enslaved in a
system created by the British monarchy. Now, I'm sure most
of us agree slavery's bad, but it was never intended
to be used by like portly pregnant Guatemalan women want
(02:00):
to run over an invisible line and squeeze out a baby.
That wasn't the point of the law. So now the
Supreme Court's got to sit down and say, hey, we
all know this is being abused. It's being misused. The
practice of issuing nationwide or universal injunctions is drawing some criticism.
It has divided the Supreme Court. The argument bled into
(02:22):
the actual constitutionality of Trump's order and whether Trump and
these people would abide by court precedence. So there's a
few takeaways here. The conservatives are questioning the need for
universal injunctions, and the liberal justices are defending the nationwide relief.
The justices are searching for a path to rule on
(02:42):
the Fourteenth Amendment. Very interesting to hear this conversation happening,
and the rule of law is emerging as a key
theme here. What does specifically does the law say? So
they haven't finished this yet, obviously they're still arguing about it.
Isn't it odd that you can listen to the Supreme
Court but you can see them.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It is odd. Are they even wearing pants? Probably not?
What is it with federal courts?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Because the p didty trials the same way? You're not
allowed to bring cameras in there? Why can you bring
cameras into a municipal traffic court in Tulsa, Oklahoma?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah? You could do that. Sure.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Can you bring cameras into a murder trial? And Compton
and Losent? Sure, yeah, bring them in. They love that.
Can I bring cameras into a hearing and a federal
court to determine whether or not the fourteenth Amendments stop
right there?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
No? But why because we don't want you to? How come?
Because that's the way it is? Because I said, so, yeah,
did you grow up with that rule? You know? Because
I said, that's why?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So I grew up in the later half of the
twentieth century, the eighties and the nineties, and back then,
our parents used to often tell us if we didn't
finish our dinner that there were people in China who
were starving that would want to eat it. And just
to give you an idea of how long ago that was,
those people in China are now billionaires.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Oh yeah, and they're not starving or are they? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I haven't seen what they're eating. I haven't actually met
any of them, but they do a lot of money.
Of all the countries to choose, you chose China that
didn't age well, that aged like cheese. I had what
was it last night for dinner? Spanish Portuguese food, it
is not bad. But when you're eating in a Portuguese restaurant,
(04:22):
they have all these African drums playing, and I wonder
do they know.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
That it's in Europe. The well, let's just right there though.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
You know, if you looked out your window in Portuguese,
you know you could probably see Africa from your kitchen window.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Right. Oh yeah, sure, It's just like Russia and Alaska.
Yeah right there. In fact, I think Sarah Palin lives
there a week out of your life. It's gonna be great.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Now, sit back, relax and enjoy the greatest show on Earth.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
The ego on you Walton and Johnson Radio Network, like.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
What the roles are now that gingers are considered black?
And I don't even know if we could play the
clip on the air.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And does one person proclaiming it make it a rule
for all?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, So one person pointed out that redheads and black
people are both sharing an experience of marginalization and oppression
that's very similar. That involves weird stereotypes like gingers don't
have souls, for example, And it's just brought up a
lot of questions like can you still say that er
at the end of the word, or do you have
(05:25):
to do an a soft a.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Gingjah, he's ainga tinga. I don't know. We don't know
the rules. They make them up every day. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
To remind y'all again, everyone who is ginger, who has
red hair, those are black people. All gingers are black people.
If they have red hair, they are black.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
All right.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So one person on TikTok made this point, and it
is spread like wildfire.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I mean, people have really latched onto this.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I think partly because there's people that want it to
be true, and then also because there's people that just
think it's funny.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
It is rather entertaining.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I admit that it's funny, but I don't actually have
a horse in this race.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't. I mean they're not the same, right.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You know, someone has red hair and they sunburn easily.
That can't be the same thing as being good at basketball.
That doesn't seem the naked. How come there's no red
heads in the NBA. Let's start with that. I don't
know that they're not, but I'll take your word for it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, hang on it.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
No, I mean, you know, do you watch the NBA regularly?
All the teams?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I mean, it's always a guy from you don't it's
always a guy from Eastern Europe, you know what I mean?
If it's a white guy, and those Eastern europe people
are never redheads. Okay, So Blake Griffin, was he a
redhead with the La Clippers?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Kind of Bill Walton kind of a redhead? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Okay, fine, there's two. Dennis Rodman, depending on what color's
hair was at the time.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I don't think he counts though. I'm just saying it's
not the same thing.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And then redheads don't eat spicy food usually, right so,
and soul food right in, and a thing in the community.
It's a I'm just saying, Look, I'm not trying to stereotype.
These are cultural examples of things that happen in a community.
And is there even a redheaded community? Is there a
ginger community? I don't know that there is one. They
have Ebony magazine, there's no ginger magazine, And frankly, why
(07:16):
isn't there?
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well, that's something you should think about starting.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
How about a ginger news out like ause, Gingers need
probably a higher SPF. And I'm just saying ginger willy nilly,
I'd never say the n words, certainly not on the
radio and lose my job.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Should you be allowed to say ginger?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I mean, these are all questions we have to We
really got to spend a whole weekend, I think, really
pondering these questions and get back in here on Monday
with a fresh start.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I mean, I don't know what the answers are. I
want to know. I'm willing to.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Respect the cultural differences. I'm willing to acknowledge them, but
first somebody has to define what the rules are before
I can adhere to them. You know, I'm just a
at the end of the day, I'm just a caveman.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
All these rules about gender pronouns and different sub cultures
of races and ethnicities frightened and confuse me. I don't
know what I'm supposed to do with them. Have this
blinking box on the wall, there's a little guy trapped
inside explaining to me that I'm a racist, a sexist,
and a transphobe.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
And I don't know how he got in the box,
but he's you know, you can't argue with him. He says,
it's true, it must be true.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Even more confusing, how is a guy like that who
looks as masculine as he does. Get named Rachel Maddow.
That doesn't make any sense. Nobody knows. These are secrets
that we will probably never figure out. Yesterday I heard
somebody out loud, in his serious voice, without unironically say
that the funniest person on TV is Rachel Maddow funniest
and I said, you know, I agree with you, I'm
that And then it occurred to me we were not
(08:39):
talking about the same thing.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You don't even have the volume up and you find
that person to be humorous.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Somebody said, you know, it just looks funny. Yeah, absolutely,
kind of.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
It's funny too, because if you watch MSNBC and you
put Joe Scarborough next to Rachel Maddow, if you had
two and a half beers, you wouldn't know who was
you wouldn't. Do you think Mika Brazinski ever got runk
at the office Christmas party in hootup with Rachel.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Madow every Christmas? I think, so, how do have happened? Right? Oh? Yeah, anyway,
that's the world you live in.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Poor Joe. Maybe Joe got drunk and hotep with Rachel Mattow.
He thought he was making love to himself could be
lucky guy. Anyway, We're we're gonna on some new beds
here at your favorite morning show. You know, we're working.
We're gonna sprinkle some stuff in here. I think I
want to start doing a segment on the show called
Tinfoil Hat Times, Okay, where we.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Just talk about different conspiracy theories.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
You know, the obvious want would be gay frogs with
the chemicals in the water.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Well, yeah, been done to death. Huh, But it's a
classic example of the kind of thing we could do. Right.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Uh, did did he rape Justin Bieber? There's a conspiracy?
Justin says no, But.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
You brought up those Michael Jackson victims from so many
years ago when they were little kids that people were
asking them, you know, hey, what happened back then? You know,
with you it was like, no, Michael didn't. Then time
passed and they felt a little more comfortable. I guess,
oh yeah, well, okay, you did a little right On
said he didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I know, but you know, he kind of did.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
One of Michael Jackson's most famous accusers originally said that
nothing had ever happened between the two. He thought it
was ridiculous, and then years later he sat down and
he did a like a three hour documentary for HBO
where he just told story after story vividly, and they
were horrific. It was like watching a snuff film. Some
(10:26):
of this stuff. He said.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
One of the.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Stories involved like staring at Michael Jackson while he did
something obscene and Michael was standing in front of a
cardboard cutout of Peter Pan And for some reason, the
Peter Pan part made the story so much creepier.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, I did anyway.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And then you have a treehouse or something that he
used to like to take the kids up to.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yes, in Neverland? Is that what it was called? The
not Neverland? What did he call it? The place where
he lived, never Land Ranch?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Right? I think.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
So he lived he had a room kind of by
the pool, and you'd walk upstairs and there were lights
and alarms and stuff, so if anybody came up there,
he would be alerted to the fact that someone was
on their way. It was a long walk up a staircase,
and as you're walking up there'd be little bells that
would ring and lights would go off, so that if
(11:18):
anyone was at the top of the stairs. And then
when you got all the way up there. The walls
were just covered in pictures of Disney characters and child
stars like mcaulay culkin, who Michael was friends with over
the years.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
It's weird that you tell it like you were there.
Do you have something to share?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Look, twenty bucks is twenty bucks, you know exactly. No,
I just watched all this stuff on TV. Who is
the guy?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
There was like a British Indian guy who famously got
a tour of Neverland Ranch.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Yeah, he's the one that did all the interviews with
him and all for our younger listeners.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You won't remember this, but there was a point where
the general opinion about Michael Jackson changed almost overnight. It
went from being a far fetched conspiracy theory that he
had done things with these kids. And then I was
at ABC or CBS, one of the major networks, and
a guy, a member of the paparazzi to go interview Michael,
and he did a tour of the house and he
just showed you all the weird stuff. And there was
(12:15):
a part of this show where he Michael talked about
having sleepovers with little boys and how normal it was, Yeah,
just to have.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Them all in his bed, like if he had, you know,
half a dozen golden labs.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, I just let him all sleep in the bed
with me. It's fun.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
And that was when most people in America, after many,
many years of hearing these rumors and asking themselves that
they were true, finally realized that Prince was a cooler musician.
There was just no doubt about. I'm ready for the weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
It's going to be a banging party. There's a lot of.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Drinking involved a party.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
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