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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Somebody decided the Star Spangled Banner needed upgrading.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I don't agree. I think it was good the way
it was the words or the music. The music. Yeah,
they decided that they don't leave the whole the words,
you know, whatever they are, they're going to leave that alone.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, the lyrics, I think we're fine. The problem was
that like melodically, it just wasn't contemporary.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It was always interesting that it was based on a
drinking song from an English you know, tavern. Right, A
lot of stuff was back and then maybe it is
time that we get our own tune stood of borrowing
one from the country that we kicked their butts for
our own independence, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So a panel of people looked at the Star Spangled
Banner and said, we keep the lyrics, we changed the melody.
We need it to be more contemporary, but not too
contemporary because it's still a classic song.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So I met good sweet middle ground, right, hit that
sweet spot.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So they spun the wheel. They looked at different decades
and generations. They figured nineties would be perfect, not to all,
not too young, right in the middle there, you know,
nineties era rock music at melodically, that would be a
good time.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
To model it at Jilly. I don't know. I'm kind
of curious, sister, whether that's the decade I would have
gone for.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh no, it's great. The thing we ended up with.
This is a new American classic. Right now, you guys ready.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I have to stand up, say can you see Oh
my God by the Dons? What's so proud?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Why?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Lastly, it's sound Garden Black Call Sun No way?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, you know Johnny Cash did a sound Garden cover.
Why shouldn't we have.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
A It was good enough for JC, why not rest
up it?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, Rusty Cage, Rick Rubin, Johnny Cash, I mean this
was a jam. Dude, it's hard to believe this was
a grunge song. Hard to believe this was heroin music. Billiad,
I don't like it. I know, I don't care for it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You don't like this? No, not do drugs? I agree?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well, Johnny Cash never did drugs. You know that was
He was known for his sobriety and clean living. Of course,
everybody knows that. Everybody knows that anyway, they For those
that don't know, Memorial Day is this weekend. We're all
looking forward to Memorial Day coming up. Time to remember
it time to do things, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And now, mom thoughts, why is every solemn holiday marked
by furniture sales and barbecues? You never understand it? Young
who made the coal saw? This has been mom thoughts.
(02:45):
You ever put in the peanuts and coal flow? They
got them special kind, they call them dry roofted. Okay,
they got little you know, like flakes of flavor or something.
All them and put that in youkoleflow. That's good eating
after sure? Yeah? Take again, er at that? Very delicious?
(03:06):
All right?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So sad news over the weekend looks like this happened
in New York City. A wild incident took place. A
young man allegedly slashed three people during a fight outside
a Manhattan bar on Saturday. And it turns out his
father is kind of a late night TV royalty. His
dad was the music coordinator for decades on Saturday Night Live.
(03:31):
Hell Wilner that yeah, well you might recognize him. He
has played with the band and Stuff Emmy Award winning
producer for James Corden and Dave Letterman. Anyway, the son
is Arlow Wilner, aged twenty, pled not guilty to the
upgraded charge and related counts at as rayment in a
Manhattan criminal court for violently attacking and slashing people. His
(03:52):
bail was set at two hundred thousand dollars. Was it
self defense?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, it doesn't. I mean, I don't know who you
should go witheld. I mean, we have no idea. Or actually,
if it was three on one, he slashed three people,
so I was like he was being attacked by three
people on three on one. That's definitely self defense. We
should probably give him some sort of an award or
a ribboner or certificate or something.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
What's interesting is because of who his dad is. The
New York Post wrote an article about his birth back
in two thousand and four, you know, because in New
York he's kind of a big deal there. And then
now he's back in the newspaper for the first time
in about twenty years.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, yeah, not for a good reason. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They claim he started the bloody argument around three thirty
am when he approached the trio of victims outside Salley's
Bar in kIPS Bay and asked to buy cocaine. Uh
and the three male victims in form Wilner that this
was not a place for that, and the suspects ensuing
verbal outrage turned physical when he pulled out a knife.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
He must have really liked cocaine. It does sound like it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And while I don't approve of that behavior, I wish
I cared about anything that much.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
We were doing DEI before it was cool. You're listening
to the Walton Zigne Show.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
There's so many soundbites now that have been resurrected from
the archives, the anals of history, of people telling you
that Joe Biden's brain is just fine.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
From the anals of history. Huh, yeah, in time for
prostate cancer. That's not at all what I meant by that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But no, no one of those people is Congressman Jamie Raskin.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Jamie Raskin was speaking.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Publicly a while back about how these people accusing Joe
Biden of having a broken brain or all dirtbags and liars,
does this raise alarms about whether President Biden is fit
to serve another term in office?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Well, undoubtedly that's what Robert Herr, who comes from my state,
he's a Maryland Republican. Undoubtedly, that's what he intended to
do with those ridiculous cheap shots. Why just spend an
hour with President Biden in the entire Democratic caucus where
he regaled and entertained everyone for an hour and went
through all of the extraordinary accomplishments of his administration.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Turns out that never happened. Yeah. That the interesting good
stories though, Don't you enjoy a good story, whether it's
true or not.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
The interesting thing about all these guys trying to make
Robert Hurr sound like a bad guy is that Robert
Hurr was actually being really nice.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
He could have pressed charges against Joe Biden right in
the middle of a presidential election. He chose not to
do it, but he needed an excuse not to do it,
and Joe Biden gave him the perfect excuse.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's funny. They could have pressed charges on Hillary Clinton
back during a presidential election, I believe, but they chose
not to do that too.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And that actually brings the news cycle from the past
week full circle because the person who did that was
James Comey.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And we ended last week with liberals telling you that
James Comy calling for the assassination of Donald Trump is AOK.
Eighty six forty seven, that's right. And then we start
this new we with people from that same social circle,
that same group of intellectual elitists telling you be compassionate
to Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well wishes coming in from all over the globe for
this important former leader of the free New World. Yay.
Donald Trump hasn't said anything outrageous yet. No, I mean,
don't you kind of expect him to be the one
who comes up and says, you know, this is a
bunch of nonsense or whatever. Nope, turns out it was
(07:30):
his son Don Junior. I like, Don, who says, I
want to know how doctor Jill Biden missed stage five
metastatic cancer or is this yet another cover up?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well, you know, they say she's a very important and
very intelligent doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
But White House doctors, urologists, analysts, they're all having trouble
wrapping their head around the fact that this just popped
up yep, like that on on Friday. No, no clue,
no sign of any cancer before. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's amazing that the the the the analysts of all
people couldn't figure out that was prostate cancer anyway. Mark
Marco Rubio was on CBS over the weekend talking to
Margaret Brennan about the South African refugees, remember them from
last week?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah? Yeah, the the white people that want to they
want to bring to this country. Oh, it's just it's
just gross.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
White liberals in America are actually mad that we're trying
to save people from being murdered. Actual political refugees a
very small group, by the way, it's not a big,
you know, massive amount. And Marco Rubio is having to
explain this to a white lady. Where does Marco Rubio
fall on the race racial spectrum scale? Does he qualify
as cracker face talk? Yeah, yeah, I think Well, he
(08:48):
works for Trump, right, so he's white. That white is
kind of like when a cop puts on a uniform,
even a black cops, even Hispanic cops. They they all
become white over minute they strap on a cop uniform. Well,
some would argue that Marco Rubio is a person of
color POC. And if you take that stance, then this
is a SoundBite of a brown man telling a white
(09:10):
lady not to be so racist to white people.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
South Africa's president is traveling to the United States this
week to meet with President Trump. The administration has prioritized
bringing some white South Africans Africaners to the United States,
despite the increased restrictions on refugees President Trump claims there's
a genocide underway in South Africa. That's a legal determination
(09:33):
the State Department would make it. Are you trying to
determine that?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Now, I was determined that these people are having their
properties taken from them. You can call it whatever they want,
but these are people that, on the basis of their race,
are having their properties taken away from them and their
lives being threatened and in some cases killed. These are
people that applied and made these claims in their applications
and seek to come to the United States in search
(09:57):
of refuge. We've often been lectured by people all over
the place about how the United States needs to continue
to be a beacon for those who are oppressed abroad. Well,
here's an example where we're doing that. So I don't
understand why people are criticizing it. I think people should
be celebrating it, and I think people should be supporting it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Side that favor.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I think there's evidence absolutely that people have been murdered,
that people have been forcibly removed from their properties, both
by the government.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And sometimes he's just kind of repeating himself, But you
want she asked the question again.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Now, of course, we're really rude and mean to the
people cent or twelve million of them that all came
here within the last three or four years because they
were fleeing the exact same kind of treatment, well not
exactly the same that was that was happening to the
people that said they were seeking asylum in the United States.
(10:51):
They had to flee through multiple countries to get here.
A lot of them claimed though, that some of the
horrific things that were being done to them in their
own countries. Some of them were told that they were
going to have to get a job if they wanted
to eat. Uh, how do they treat people like that
(11:14):
in other countries? I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I'm about to say something out loud, and I wish
it wasn't true, right, I wish this wasn't true right
now at this particular moment in time, if you omit
everything from the basic South African lifestyle, other than civil
rights and liberties, things are worse than they were before apartheid.
Now when it comes to civil rights and liberties. Obviously
(11:37):
that's improved theoretically, right, because people are getting murdered now
and crime's really out of control. So there's an argument
made that you don't really have civil rights if criminals
around the street. But all that being said, when it
comes to safety, security, health, employment, medical health care, access
to food and agriculture and medicine, and I hate that
this is true, but it's my understanding that even for
(11:59):
black people before apartheid, they had more access to that
stuff than they have now. Now I don't live there,
that my might the information that's been shared with me
could be inaccurate. I'll admit I don't live in South Africa.
I've never been there, but it's my understanding that GOP
No No Poverty is worse now, crime is worse now,
access to healthcare is worse.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
The cost of food is skyrocket because there's not any
growing anymore because the people that took the farms away
from the farmers don't know how to farm, and probably
don't want to if they knew how.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Now, don't get me wrong, Apartheid's bad right living in
a society. I'm a libertarian Republican. I'm a constitutional conservative.
I think that we should live in a society where
everybody gets representation equally from our government officials and everybody
gets to say. And it's not necessarily democracy because that's
a that's you know, that's kind of a kind to
game rape.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I don't like.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Raw democracy is a little problematic as well. But in
a free and just society before apartheid, obviously things were
not perfect, but it wasn't as dangerous. They are access
to medicine and healthcare. And don't get me wrong, I'm
not advocating for apartheid. I'm just pointing out that it's
not it's that it's very dangerous in South Africa right now.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
What you're trying to explain is they don't care how
bad things are. They just care who is in charge
of it. Sure, and as long as the right people's
in charge. Yeah, and it's all good exactly, Well it's
all good, dude. I mean it's not all good. No,
it's not even close to good, but it's I could
I would compare this kind of like to people that
(13:30):
are looking at Putin versus Zolensky. Who's the good guy,
who's the bad guy?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
They're both bad, right, and then you look at, okay,
life in South Africa before apartheid, life in South Africa
after apartheid?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
What was better? What was worse?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Well, they both seem pretty bad to me. Right, things
are clearly bad right now. That's why we have to
reach out with and and give refugee status to these people.
Was it good before apartheid went away? No, it wasn't
good then either. There's you know, it was legal racism.
That's terrible, right, and then Nelson Mandela Shu probably shouldn't
have been in prison. But on the other hand, communism's
pretty bad too, and that seems to be the thing
(14:04):
he was advocating for. You go, I don't know how
to solve the problem.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I think you just did, Kenny. I think you just
solved it by mentioning it, just by talking about it.
That that's the start of the solution. I feel like
we couldn't have done least exactly. Dad, what's on your face?
Birthday cake? I just ate a birthday cake whose birthday
(14:30):
nobody they tell him at the grocery store. You can
get him any time you want, even if it's not
your birthday. Stay tuned for more. Waltman Johnson
Somebody decided the Star Spangled Banner needed upgrading.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I don't agree. I think it was good the way
it was the words or the music. The music. Yeah,
they decided that they don't leave the whole the words,
you know, whatever they are, they're going to leave that alone.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Yeah, the lyrics, I think we're fine. The problem was
that like melodically, it just wasn't contemporary.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
It was always interesting that it was based on a
drinking song from an English you know, tavern. Right, A
lot of stuff was back and then maybe it is
time that we get our own tune stood of borrowing
one from the country that we kicked their butts for
our own independence, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
So a panel of people looked at the Star Spangled
Banner and said, we keep the lyrics, we changed the melody.
We need it to be more contemporary, but not too
contemporary because it's still a classic song.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
So I met good sweet middle ground, right, hit that
sweet spot.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So they spun the wheel. They looked at different decades
and generations. They figured nineties would be perfect, not to all,
not too young, right in the middle there, you know,
nineties era rock music at melodically, that would be a
good time.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
To model it at Jilly. I don't know. I'm kind
of curious, sister, whether that's the decade I would have
gone for.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh no, it's great. The thing we ended up with.
This is a new American classic. Right now, you guys ready.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I have to stand up, say can you see Oh
my God by the Dons? What's so proud?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Why?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Lastly, it's sound Garden Black Call Sun No way?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, you know Johnny Cash did a sound Garden cover.
Why shouldn't we have.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
A It was good enough for JC, why not rest
up it?
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, Rusty Cage, Rick Rubin, Johnny Cash, I mean this
was a jam. Dude, it's hard to believe this was
a grunge song. Hard to believe this was heroin music. Billiad,
I don't like it. I know, I don't care for it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
You don't like this? No, not do drugs? I agree?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well, Johnny Cash never did drugs. You know that was
He was known for his sobriety and clean living. Of course,
everybody knows that. Everybody knows that anyway, they For those
that don't know, Memorial Day is this weekend. We're all
looking forward to Memorial Day coming up. Time to remember
it time to do things, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
And now, mom thoughts, why is every solemn holiday marked
by furniture sales and barbecues? You never understand it? Young
who made the coal saw? This has been mom thoughts.
(02:45):
You ever put in the peanuts and coal flow? They
got them special kind, they call them dry roofted. Okay,
they got little you know, like flakes of flavor or something.
All them and put that in youkoleflow. That's good eating
after sure? Yeah? Take again, er at that? Very delicious?
(03:06):
All right?
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So sad news over the weekend looks like this happened
in New York City. A wild incident took place. A
young man allegedly slashed three people during a fight outside
a Manhattan bar on Saturday. And it turns out his
father is kind of a late night TV royalty. His
dad was the music coordinator for decades on Saturday Night Live.
(03:31):
Hell Wilner that yeah, well you might recognize him. He
has played with the band and Stuff Emmy Award winning
producer for James Corden and Dave Letterman. Anyway, the son
is Arlow Wilner, aged twenty, pled not guilty to the
upgraded charge and related counts at as rayment in a
Manhattan criminal court for violently attacking and slashing people. His
(03:52):
bail was set at two hundred thousand dollars. Was it
self defense?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, it doesn't. I mean, I don't know who you
should go witheld. I mean, we have no idea. Or actually,
if it was three on one, he slashed three people,
so I was like he was being attacked by three
people on three on one. That's definitely self defense. We
should probably give him some sort of an award or
a ribboner or certificate or something.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
What's interesting is because of who his dad is. The
New York Post wrote an article about his birth back
in two thousand and four, you know, because in New
York he's kind of a big deal there. And then
now he's back in the newspaper for the first time
in about twenty years.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, yeah, not for a good reason. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
They claim he started the bloody argument around three thirty
am when he approached the trio of victims outside Salley's
Bar in kIPS Bay and asked to buy cocaine. Uh
and the three male victims in form Wilner that this
was not a place for that, and the suspects ensuing
verbal outrage turned physical when he pulled out a knife.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
He must have really liked cocaine. It does sound like it.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And while I don't approve of that behavior, I wish
I cared about anything that much.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
We were doing DEI before it was cool. You're listening
to the Walton Zigne Show.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
There's so many soundbites now that have been resurrected from
the archives, the anals of history, of people telling you
that Joe Biden's brain is just fine.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
From the anals of history. Huh, yeah, in time for
prostate cancer. That's not at all what I meant by that.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But no, no one of those people is Congressman Jamie Raskin.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Jamie Raskin was speaking.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Publicly a while back about how these people accusing Joe
Biden of having a broken brain or all dirtbags and liars,
does this raise alarms about whether President Biden is fit
to serve another term in office?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Well, undoubtedly that's what Robert Herr, who comes from my state,
he's a Maryland Republican. Undoubtedly, that's what he intended to
do with those ridiculous cheap shots. Why just spend an
hour with President Biden in the entire Democratic caucus where
he regaled and entertained everyone for an hour and went
through all of the extraordinary accomplishments of his administration.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Turns out that never happened. Yeah. That the interesting good
stories though, Don't you enjoy a good story, whether it's
true or not.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
The interesting thing about all these guys trying to make
Robert Hurr sound like a bad guy is that Robert
Hurr was actually being really nice.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
He could have pressed charges against Joe Biden right in
the middle of a presidential election. He chose not to
do it, but he needed an excuse not to do it,
and Joe Biden gave him the perfect excuse.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It's funny. They could have pressed charges on Hillary Clinton
back during a presidential election, I believe, but they chose
not to do that too.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And that actually brings the news cycle from the past
week full circle because the person who did that was
James Comey.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
And we ended last week with liberals telling you that
James Comy calling for the assassination of Donald Trump is AOK.
Eighty six forty seven, that's right. And then we start
this new we with people from that same social circle,
that same group of intellectual elitists telling you be compassionate
to Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Well wishes coming in from all over the globe for
this important former leader of the free New World. Yay.
Donald Trump hasn't said anything outrageous yet. No, I mean,
don't you kind of expect him to be the one
who comes up and says, you know, this is a
bunch of nonsense or whatever. Nope, turns out it was
(07:30):
his son Don Junior. I like, Don, who says, I
want to know how doctor Jill Biden missed stage five
metastatic cancer or is this yet another cover up?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well, you know, they say she's a very important and
very intelligent doctor.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
But White House doctors, urologists, analysts, they're all having trouble
wrapping their head around the fact that this just popped
up yep, like that on on Friday. No, no clue,
no sign of any cancer before. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's amazing that the the the the analysts of all
people couldn't figure out that was prostate cancer anyway. Mark
Marco Rubio was on CBS over the weekend talking to
Margaret Brennan about the South African refugees, remember them from
last week?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah? Yeah, the the white people that want to they
want to bring to this country. Oh, it's just it's
just gross.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
White liberals in America are actually mad that we're trying
to save people from being murdered. Actual political refugees a
very small group, by the way, it's not a big,
you know, massive amount. And Marco Rubio is having to
explain this to a white lady. Where does Marco Rubio
fall on the race racial spectrum scale? Does he qualify
as cracker face talk? Yeah, yeah, I think Well, he
(08:48):
works for Trump, right, so he's white. That white is
kind of like when a cop puts on a uniform,
even a black cops, even Hispanic cops. They they all
become white over minute they strap on a cop uniform. Well,
some would argue that Marco Rubio is a person of
color POC. And if you take that stance, then this
is a SoundBite of a brown man telling a white
(09:10):
lady not to be so racist to white people.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
South Africa's president is traveling to the United States this
week to meet with President Trump. The administration has prioritized
bringing some white South Africans Africaners to the United States,
despite the increased restrictions on refugees President Trump claims there's
a genocide underway in South Africa. That's a legal determination
(09:33):
the State Department would make it. Are you trying to
determine that?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Now, I was determined that these people are having their
properties taken from them. You can call it whatever they want,
but these are people that, on the basis of their race,
are having their properties taken away from them and their
lives being threatened and in some cases killed. These are
people that applied and made these claims in their applications
and seek to come to the United States in search
(09:57):
of refuge. We've often been lectured by people all over
the place about how the United States needs to continue
to be a beacon for those who are oppressed abroad. Well,
here's an example where we're doing that. So I don't
understand why people are criticizing it. I think people should
be celebrating it, and I think people should be supporting it.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Side that favor.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I think there's evidence absolutely that people have been murdered,
that people have been forcibly removed from their properties, both
by the government.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And sometimes he's just kind of repeating himself, But you
want she asked the question again.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Now, of course, we're really rude and mean to the
people cent or twelve million of them that all came
here within the last three or four years because they
were fleeing the exact same kind of treatment, well not
exactly the same that was that was happening to the
people that said they were seeking asylum in the United States.
(10:51):
They had to flee through multiple countries to get here.
A lot of them claimed though, that some of the
horrific things that were being done to them in their
own countries. Some of them were told that they were
going to have to get a job if they wanted
to eat. Uh, how do they treat people like that
(11:14):
in other countries? I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I'm about to say something out loud, and I wish
it wasn't true, right, I wish this wasn't true right
now at this particular moment in time, if you omit
everything from the basic South African lifestyle, other than civil
rights and liberties, things are worse than they were before apartheid.
Now when it comes to civil rights and liberties. Obviously
(11:37):
that's improved theoretically, right, because people are getting murdered now
and crime's really out of control. So there's an argument
made that you don't really have civil rights if criminals
around the street. But all that being said, when it
comes to safety, security, health, employment, medical health care, access
to food and agriculture and medicine, and I hate that
this is true, but it's my understanding that even for
(11:59):
black people before apartheid, they had more access to that
stuff than they have now. Now I don't live there,
that my might the information that's been shared with me
could be inaccurate. I'll admit I don't live in South Africa.
I've never been there, but it's my understanding that GOP
No No Poverty is worse now, crime is worse now,
access to healthcare is worse.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
The cost of food is skyrocket because there's not any
growing anymore because the people that took the farms away
from the farmers don't know how to farm, and probably
don't want to if they knew how.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Now, don't get me wrong, Apartheid's bad right living in
a society. I'm a libertarian Republican. I'm a constitutional conservative.
I think that we should live in a society where
everybody gets representation equally from our government officials and everybody
gets to say. And it's not necessarily democracy because that's
a that's you know, that's kind of a kind to
game rape.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I don't like.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Raw democracy is a little problematic as well. But in
a free and just society before apartheid, obviously things were
not perfect, but it wasn't as dangerous. They are access
to medicine and healthcare. And don't get me wrong, I'm
not advocating for apartheid. I'm just pointing out that it's
not it's that it's very dangerous in South Africa right now.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
What you're trying to explain is they don't care how
bad things are. They just care who is in charge
of it. Sure, and as long as the right people's
in charge. Yeah, and it's all good exactly, Well it's
all good, dude. I mean it's not all good. No,
it's not even close to good, but it's I could
I would compare this kind of like to people that
(13:30):
are looking at Putin versus Zolensky. Who's the good guy,
who's the bad guy?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
They're both bad, right, and then you look at, okay,
life in South Africa before apartheid, life in South Africa
after apartheid?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
What was better? What was worse?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Well, they both seem pretty bad to me. Right, things
are clearly bad right now. That's why we have to
reach out with and and give refugee status to these people.
Was it good before apartheid went away? No, it wasn't
good then either. There's you know, it was legal racism.
That's terrible, right, and then Nelson Mandela Shu probably shouldn't
have been in prison. But on the other hand, communism's
pretty bad too, and that seems to be the thing
(14:04):
he was advocating for. You go, I don't know how
to solve the problem.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I think you just did, Kenny. I think you just
solved it by mentioning it, just by talking about it.
That that's the start of the solution. I feel like
we couldn't have done least exactly. Dad, what's on your face?
Birthday cake? I just ate a birthday cake whose birthday
(14:30):
nobody they tell him at the grocery store. You can
get him any time you want, even if it's not
your birthday. Stay tuned for more. Waltman Johnson
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