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September 11, 2025 • 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's a tough morning, h guys, tougher for some of
the others. Obviously, I feel so bad for you, Kinney,
as opposed to the rest of us who never really
met or knew much about Charlie Kirk. But you were
kind of, you know, like not best friends. But you've
known him on multiple occasions, and.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
We were booked to speak together publicly. I didn't really
know the guy, though he was a nice person. I've
met him, I've been in the same room as I
won't pretend like we were buddies, but still, you've.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Been in the same room with him, You've hung up together.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
You have that personal touch that the rest of us don't,
and that makes it, I guess, even worse for you.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I was involved in something called the Texas Youth Summit.
I still am. I'm booked to speak there next week,
and Charlie Kirk has shared that stage with me before
more than once. We've stood on stage and spoken to
young conservatives, and I.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Guess this changes a lot of what people were going
to talk about at the summit.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I understand that you know, whether you agreed with Charlie
Kirk or not. He brought the receipts as the kids
say he used. His arguments were all based in fact, objective.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Fact, fantastic debater, and I guess that was part of
the problem. He was very genuine, authentic and convincing, but
he was also very nice. He was one of the
few people on either side of a political discourse these
days who actually wanted to engage in arguing, debating, but

(01:28):
in a very civil, nice way.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
He was doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yesterday, they showed clips of him just seconds before he
was shot, and some woman had taken the microphone and
he was having a back and forth with her about
why she disagreed with him on some things, and he
was happy to explain it to her. And I think
because he was so good at convincing young people that

(01:53):
the conservative side is the right side, the appropriate side
for them and what they want out of their future,
that scared people beyond belief.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, understand, Charlie Kirk was a really, really, really nice guy.
And the person that's gonna replace Charlie Kirk you're not
gonna like him, You mean, you're there will be another
Charlie Kirk. There will be another young conservative person. And
I will tell you that because you murdered Charlie Kirk,
because you murdered the nice guy that he was the
nice version, you probably won't get that next No, the

(02:29):
next guy isn't good, isn't gonna be nice. I'm telling
you you're gonna hate the next guy if you thought
Charlie Kirk was too divisive anyway. Charlie Kirk was famous
for having these debates. And something that I mean something
that he was great at talking about was why America
was or is a Christian nation. Here's a college kid
trying to explain to Charlie why it's not a Christian nation.

(02:49):
It's a common law nation, and Charlie basically shutting him down.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
A country was on common law because the Declaration only
refers to COG four times in the Constitution, doesn't referred
to con and all, and it only articulates the structure
of government.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
So, first of all, remember that we were a collection
of states and colonies, and you need to read the
state constitutions or anything else. Thirteen or thirteen required a
declaration of faith in almost every single one of the
original state constitutions. They had I profess Lord in Jesus
Christ as my Lord and Savior. Secondly, fifty five fifty
six of the original assigners of the Declaration or Bible
believing church attending Christians. You ask about common law, Let's

(03:26):
go to three principles of common law for assumption of medicines,
due process, and jury of your peers, all three of
biblical principles. So and all wrapped into the ultimate Biblical
principle that you shall not favor justice if you are
richer report, which is in Leviticus nineteen, which is the
idea of blind justice, which is incorporated also in the
New Testament ideal neither slave, nor Greek, nor Jew, you

(03:46):
or all one in Jesus Christ, as you got to
aid human equality. These are all Biblical ideas. But more
importantly than that, they say that God was only mentioned
four times in.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
The Declaration of Independence.

Speaker 6 (03:55):
Well, that's a big deal.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
John Adams seemlessly said the Constitution was only written for
a moral religious peace. It was wholly inadequate for the
people of any other The body politic of America was
so Christian that our form and structure of government was
built for the people that believed.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
In Christ, our Lord.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis
is that we no longer have a Christian nation, but
we have a Christian form of government, and they're incompatible.
So you cannot have liberty if you do not have
a Christian population.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well said. And you know what is so impressive about him.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
He could make those arguments without notes, without que cards,
without anybody else in his ear telling him things to
say or.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
How to word it.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
This is just stuff he knew, he felt, he was
passionate about, and it just poured out of him. And
he was, as so many said, a powerful force to
you know, the force of his personality, and his argument
was very strong.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
And of course leave it to the liberal media.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
You know, Barack Obama tell you that that Muslims found
in this country, not Christian that's what.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Muslims. There's a Muslim country, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
In defense of Obama, I hate to point it out.
He was one of the guys yesterday praising Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
And yeah, and I don't know if they mean it
when they do it, but most thinking liberals didn't come
out and say.

Speaker 6 (05:18):
Yeah, he deserved that.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
You got what he asked for.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
You know, you'd be surprised some of MSNBC's top personalities yesterday,
No you're right. Here's Jen Psase, this is the former
White House Press secretary for Joe Biden. Yesterday says that
Charlie Kirk's assassination will create an escalation.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
I gotta think you fire the entire network.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
But he put out a four minute video and I'm
not going to play the video. I don't want to
play the video.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
But there was a line, oh god, you hear what
she's saying.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
By the way, before we even get to the point,
the President of the United States put out a statement
on this, and MSNBC will not play that statement for you.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Well, why would they.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
There's supposedly a news organization, right, the leader of the
free world. Yeah, and that's how she starts off. She's like, look,
we're not Nobody pays attention to him, you know.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
And that reminds you.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Do you remember when Supreme Court Justice Amy Cody Barrett
was being sworn in and MSNBC would not broadcast the
swearing in of a Supreme Court justice.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
This person is going to be part of your life.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
If you're an American for decades, you don't think you'd
want to witness this, even if you don't agree with
their beliefs.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
Anyway, here's Jen Pisasi.

Speaker 7 (06:22):
But he put out a four minute video and I'm
not going to play the video. I don't want to
play the video, but there was a line at the
end that I think is I just wanted to raise
and read. At the end of this four minute video,
he says, for years, those on the radical left have
compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis in the world's
most worst mass.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Murders and criminals.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism
that we're seeing in our country today, and it must
stop right now. And obviously there's a lot of rhetoric
that is problematic, a lot of it is coming from
one particular side and from one particular building. But what
can be done? I fear when this is an escalation already.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
In less than wait, did she just blame Trump for
the murder of absolutely And she's not the only one.
Several liberal media outlets had people commentators on saying it's
the rhetoric from Trump, it's the violent talk from the
Republican side that is causing all of this. If you

(07:23):
have ever told a Republican that they're a Nazi because
they have mainstream right wing beliefs. You have to double
down on your stupid opinions today because otherwise you're admitting
that you're responsible for this young man being murdered.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Well that don't forget the playbook.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
The way liberals deal with stuff is when they are
doing things, they always accuse the other side of it.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
Right, hateful, violent rhetoric.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
All from Trump and the Republicans.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
What she just said, don't make a liqu of sends.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
Does it listen to that? Yesterday right after he was shot,
we didn't know why. Here's MSMB in which.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
A shooting like this happens.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Yeah, and again emphasize what you just emphasized. We don't
know any of the spoke details of this that.

Speaker 8 (08:08):
We don't know if this was the supporter shooting your
gun off in celebration or so.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
We have no idea. Unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
It is absolutely the stupidest thing I think Andy's anybody
to ever just let.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Fly out of their loose lips.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
And then Matthew Dowd was actually fired for saying this
following up what was just said.

Speaker 8 (08:25):
He's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger
figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing this
sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups.
And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to
hateful words.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
So now because Matthew Dowd did that, MSNBC had to
fire him.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I challenge you, any of you to find the clips
of hate speech from Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
Yeah, No, he was not controversial.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
He was nice, He was civil. He would smile people
who told him how wrong he was and disagreed with him.
He would listen to their side and then he would
explain his side. There was no divisiveness. But again, like
Billy had said about liberals, they blame you for the
things they do.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Have you ever seen the videos of people stealing his hats.
There's more than one. There's a lot of videos of
him at an event because he's giving out hats and
someone will run up and steal his hat, and then
his supporters will kind of fight with the person to
get the hat at hey and he'll say no, no,
let him keep it, and then they run off with
the hat and he takes another hat out of the
box and puts it.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
On, throwing hats to the crowd. Yesterday, Yeah, when he
first walked out before he had a seat under the tent.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Find your favorite MAGA hat today, your favorite Pro America hat,
whatever it is, put it on, wear it for Charlie today.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
When you go out the door.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
There you go. I don't know what the hell's going
on in this world.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
I'm not even sure if I understood that question.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
But some days just want to stop this planet. Let
me off. Walton and Johnson Radio Network.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
It's hard to believe.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
But all the other bad stuff going on in the
world it's still happening though. Yeah, it's all going on,
multiple wars, crime waves, people being murdered in the streets, and.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
We're still getting emails from people saying that I know
the Charlie Kirk thing was horrible, but don't forget about
nine and eleven.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
I'm not going to forget that.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
It's Patriots Day, which is the government's way of saying,
let's not talk about the three thousand or so people
that were killed on this day by terrorists, which, by
the way, the Democrat Party is a terrorist organization. Now,
after so many assassinations and attempted assassinations from CEOs of

(10:43):
companies to presidents and well former president and future president
and campaigner. They are the ones starting the violence and
the terrorism. They would love for this Charlie Kirk assassination
to work the same way terrorist doesks They and still
terror in you. So you're too afraid to speak up
and tell them your point of view?

Speaker 6 (11:05):
Yeah, never let them silence you.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Also, people are very concerned about our safety, and I
appreciate that. I love that Lisa, along with many other people.
Here's what she said. If I were you, I would
not live in fear, don't be afraid, but I would
be cautious, be wise, and aware of your surroundings. Since
these people have no good counter argument for the things

(11:31):
that you all say. They resort to violence, and who knows,
maybe they have a list of people that they want
to silence. Sounds like a very planned out assassination from
a building two hundred yards away, very powerful weapon, one
shot and one kill. This all Lisa's email could have

(11:52):
been hired by the Open Society people or the d
NC for that matter.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
For all and just be careful.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I know we're probably not the first target obviously, but
you could be a target.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yesterday when this happened, my phone wouldn't stop bringing text
messages emails, phone calls, family members, friends. More than one
person in a ten minute period called and told me
not to leave the house.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, again, that's just cowering in fear. Leave the house,
but be aware of what you're possibly walking into.

Speaker 6 (12:29):
I left.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I went to church and then I went to the park.
And I don't want to hide. No one should have
to hide. I mean, I'm if I'm a target. We're
in bad shape, guys. I'm not that important. I tell
boner jokes about politicians and comedy clubs.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Well, you say that, but you don't know who you've
pissed off. You piss off fifteen people. One of them
might just be a pure, lunatic, insane person who thinks
you're the most vile human beings, spewing your right ring rhetoric. Right,
that's hard to right wing rhetoric, hate speech, that's what

(13:05):
you're full of. Your full of hate, and they hate
hate so much that they want to kill people for it.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Rhetoric, I feel like, is one of those words that
liberals used to for us to explain why they're shooting
and killing us.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Oh, of course that's a good excuse.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
It's like their way of saying, stop making us kill you.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
And then in the meantime, we have dozens of audio
clips from for the last decade of Democrats, the left
wing nut jobs, if you will, like a Maxine Waters
for example, actually spewing hate, hateful rhetoric and being divisive,

(13:43):
telling her.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Side to go out there and attack the other side.
But that's not considered divisive. Well, Charlie Kirk just wanted
to have a polite conversation, maybe an argument with you,
to see you know, what your thoughts were on the subject.
And that's that's eteful. Young people today aren't old enough
to remember the Cold War, so they don't understand why

(14:05):
it's important to reject communism. They're certainly not old enough
to remember World War Two, so that's why it's hard
for them to understand why we have to reject fascism.
And Charlie Kirk spent a lot of time teaching them
both of those lessons. But boy, the thing today, we
didn't expect Charlie Kirk yesterday by giving his life, todd
every young person in America what happened on September eleventh,

(14:28):
two thousand and one, what it was like to be
murdered for your beliefs? For being an American, for being
a Christian, simply for existing, and young college kids, high
school kids. They're not old enough to remember nine to eleven.
They don't remember it, but now now they know damn
well what it meant to be alive on that morning.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I thought it was also interesting that they estimated the crowd.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
They're at the university yesterday and it is a small town,
small college.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
They didn't expect violence.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Nobody expected this, And I certainly don't blame the town
or the state of Utah. He's the people that did
this kind of thing probably aren't even from that area.
They just knew that's where Charlie Kirk was going to be.
But the crowd was estimated to be around three thousand people,

(15:17):
which is almost the exact same number of people that
died on nine to eleven. Right when you see that
crowd of people out there that showed up to hear
what Charlie had to say, and you see them, you know,
running when they hear the gunshot, and all you think
about that many people in that crowd. That's how many

(15:37):
people were killed like that on September eleventh.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Rest in peace to all those we lost today in
two thousand and one, and of course Charlie Kirk yesterday
gone at age thirty one. What an unbelievable story nineteen
eighty nine to twenty twenty five that.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Ain't enough, ain't nearly enough, man ain't right?

Speaker 6 (15:55):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Isn't I've one all by a plate?

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Sonny and Kay? That looks beaureful Radio Walton and Johnson
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