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September 11, 2025 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, we wake up today with a new litmus test
for humanity, a barometric reading that we didn't have yesterday.
If you friends or coworkers, family members on social media,
people standing around the coffee machine this morning in your
office workplace, and they're starting a sentence off by saying
I didn't agree with Charlie, but he had a right

(00:23):
to speak, or something to that extent, that person is
probably a liberal. If the person you're talking to you
this morning or reading the words of on social media
is saying something like we don't cry for fascists, that
person is probably a communist. Yesterday somebody who I would

(00:44):
not have ever considered to be edgy. Charlie Kirk pretty
close to the center if we're being objective here, was
actually criticized by people in his own industry for not
going far enough to the right.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
And at the same time, the lift will tell you
that he was so divisive. Never heard him be divisive.
What divisive means to the left is that they disagreed
with him. He wouldn't listen to their way of doing things.
He didn't think that the liberals were right. That makes

(01:17):
him divisive to a liberal. Yeah, but he was so
good at making his arguments for his side, that they
were so scared of him. They feared not just what
he was doing now, I think they were looking into
the future and seeing that this guy is rounding up
a whole lot of new young Republican voters, bringing them out,

(01:42):
and it scared them to the point they couldn't out
argue him.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
So they just killed him.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
And that was it. And the stuff that he was saying,
it wasn't that far to the right. I mean, Charlie
Kirk's political opinions were a perfect example of what mainstream
center conservative Republican beliefs looked like. But before we even
dive into some of his more controversial statements, which I
don't find to be the controversial of course, not remember

(02:09):
that people in conservative media criticized him because he welcomed
gay people in Turning Point USA, he welcomed foreign born
students in Turning Point USA. He was he was willing
to admit, you know, sometimes Muslims and Jews can be
young American conservatives too, we want them in our in
our group. That was not a radically far right opinion,

(02:33):
that that's the stance of somebody that's actually just right
of center and for that they murdered him. And by
the way, they didn't just murder. It's not just that
they murdered some guy who was an important political figure,
which he certainly was. That this was someone's dad. Two
little girls are waking up today with no father, a wife.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
I think it was a son adult.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
But was that I thought he had two dog. Was
it a son and a daughter. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I don't know anything about his kids.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
That would be creepy, but hey, two children woke up
today with no dad, a wife woke up today with
a widow. Because somebody out there lacked the ability to
participate in civil debate and that's that's what he was
famous for.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, and he was really good at it. And I
think that's why. Since they couldn't argue back, they couldn't
win with him, and they couldn't change him, so they
took him out. You know what I kept wondering about yesterday.
They kept showing pictures of his wife and his kids
and very very touching, very hard to look at, knowing

(03:37):
that she has to go. When I went to bed
last night, I was like, Okay, she's got to put
those kids to bed and at least one of the
older one must know got to be asking where's dad?
What do you You're trying to still deal with it yourself,
and you're trying to help kids figure it out as well.
The thing that stood out to me yesterday was that

(03:59):
I'd never heard one time anybody and I didn't see everything.
Nobody ever talked about his parents.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I mean, he's got a mom and a dad, and
they were Trump allies in some way. I don't know
if they were good friends or knew each other.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
He's only thirty two. His parents had to be alive.
Yeah at thirty one. Yeah, thirty one right.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
I don't know when his birthday isn't don't know if
I just had it or coming up. But he's two.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Years younger than my son. Wow.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
And I was thinking, you know, if your son was
just assassinated and all over the television or nobody brought
up the parents at all.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, because they're out there too watching all this on TV.
And imagine that. You know, there's like four or five
different angles of that video and you didn't see it
on the news. But if you're on social media, that
was impossible to avoid.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Kept trying to get people to stop posting it and
report people that were putting it up to take it
down and all. And I never I didn't want to
see it. I didn't go out of my way to
find it.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
But it's hard.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
But it was described to me by people that did
see it, and.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
That was all. That was enough.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I went home yesterday. I was planning on working out yesterday. Afternoons,
I decided to catch a little nap and I didn't
sleep for very long, and when I woke up just
a short time later, my phone was just full of
text messages. It was right in that little window. Because
two years ago, at the Texas Youth Summit, I spoke
with Charlie. I shared a stage with him. I've done

(05:29):
it more than once, only a couple of times, but
you know, more than once. And the Texas Youth Summit
happens again in Houston next week, and guess who's not
going to be there.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, it would be impossible.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
They want us to be afraid, They want us.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
To be silent.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Absolutely, they think that'll do and the exact opposite will
happen from what they wanted to accomplish.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's kind of the liberal way that they're not.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
They're not smart enough to see their own the consequences
of their own actions.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
They think they'll I just shut that one guy up.
That one guy had millions and millions of followers, and
that's just going to just continue to grow exponentially now
because of all the attention.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Imagine being a young, confused college kid, not understanding where
you are politically and seeing this happen, and now you're
going to wonder, well, what did Charlie Kirk say that
was so damn controversial that god him murdered? And believe me,
there is no shortage of content out there this guy talking.
This is the classic streisand effect. If you try to
censor someone, if you try to suppress information, if you

(06:33):
try to keep a message from reaching a listener, you're
going to have the exact opposite effect. Yep, there is
nothing more vulgar than censorship. There is nothing that martyrs
people more. There is nothing that pushes people further in
a direction than telling them they can't go that way.
They did this research study years ago, not on white

(06:54):
supremacist or neo Nazis or American Republicans, but Islamic extremists,
young men that were joining ICE. And remember Isis was
a little different than some of the other Islamo fascist groups,
the Taliban and al Qaeda. A lot of these people
were living in caves, they were poor, they were from
villages in the desert. ISIS was a little different. It
was a lot of young people from America, in England

(07:17):
and Germany and France who went to liberal arts college.
They studied graphic design or computer programming, and they were educated.
But for some reason they joined the Islamic extremist group.
And they went out and they did this study to
try to determine what was it that was making these
young men join this group, what was it that forced
them into this ideology or theological ideological belief And more

(07:37):
often than not, almost every time, every one of these
young men had a story about how some Imam, some
Muslim author, cleric, whoever it was, was suppressed or killed
or jailed for their beliefs. And it was that incident,
was that witnessing, that moment that caused them to go
out and sign up to join ISIS. Now in no

(07:58):
way at all comparing turning point us say to ISIS,
but the point still stands. When you tell young people
you're not supposed to believe this or will kill you.
You're not supposed to believe this, or we will imprison you.
You're not supposed to believe this, or you will be
punished and suppressed and censored. Every single time that happens
throughout humanity, it's had the opposite effect on a wide

(08:20):
scale of what the censor was trying to accomplish.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
I think we're going to see that happening here. I
wasn't as familiar with Charlie and his work as you were,
because I'm an older generation. You're even older. Yeah, I'm
about ten years older than he was, reaching out to
kids high school and college age who were the age
he was when he started this. I mean, do you
think about the eighteen year old kid starts this movement

(08:46):
and by the time he's thirty one, it's so big,
so powerful. They feared it. They were so scared of
what was happening. That was just the beginning, I mean
just the beginning. He was just bringing more and more
people to his the right way of thinking, obviously, and
they just couldn't stand it.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
You know what else is kind of remarkable about that.
Today is September eleventh, you know, it's the twenty twenty
five so it's been decades.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
We're supposed to call it Patriots Day.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Now, today's the anniversary of what was to my something
that shaped my political beliefs when I was in college.
And today college kids are not old enough to remember
nine to eleven. They're not how could they. They weren't alive,
how could they remember it. They were babies or not
even born yet. So today they're waking up and they
do know who Charlie Kirk is, whether they like him

(09:35):
or not. Charlie Kirk is well known among college kids.
I want you to imagine you're a young college kid
and you don't really know what it's like to go
through nine to eleven, but you do know what it
was like to be alive when Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Now,
multiply the death of Charlie Kirk by thousands. They killed
Charlie Kirk because he was a patriotic American, and that's

(09:55):
what it was like to be alive today, September eleventh,
two thousand and one. It's a terrible way to learn
that lesson, Yes it is, but they but they're learning it. Nonetheless,
Everyone gather around what day, Well, let's see, it's Thursday, Right, Well,
it's only the best day of the year.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
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Speaker 1 (10:15):
There is always the other side of this. A lot
of closet communists are waking up more famous today than
they were yesterday. People in seemingly vaguely public positions, educators,
elected officials, prosecutors, things like that, have used their personal
social media accounts to celebrate the death of the creator

(10:39):
of Turning Point USA, and in doing so, have caught
the attention of independent journalists and other activists who have
shared those screenshots with an audience of people that were
not thrilled to see them.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Would would one of those people who got their attention called,
would that be you?

Speaker 1 (10:57):
I'm one of the many, many people out there, good
for you, who caught a hold, caught wind to this
yester yesterday. College professors, public school teachers, and CEOs of company,
people that you know, people who probably should know better,
considering what they do for a living, just thought it
would be funny or edgy or cool to use their
personal Instagram accounts or Twitter.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I guess people that think like that think that everybody
else must think that way too. They think they're just
surrounded by a bunch of other like minded people who
are just as insane as they are.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
There's this article from April of twenty twenty three, and
I think it's in I don't know where this is Newsweek,
somewhere like that, and the headline reads as follows. It's
very misleading. Incomplete headline, The headline reads, Charlie Kirk says
gun deaths unfortunately worth it to keep Second Amendment. And
then they don't really explain why he thinks that. The
reason why he thinks that is because an unarmed society

(11:53):
can be invaded and attacked and enslaved. And while it's
sad to live in a society where there's gun violence,
it would be even worse to live in a society
where an authoritarian regime controls what you say and do.
Right now, I'm you might not like guns, but the
point he just made is obviously true. The very people

(12:14):
criticizing him for this think we should send guns by
the boatload or truckload out to Ukraine right.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Now, Oh you bit, they're all fine with that.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yesterday, a Harris County prosecutor took to social media and
shared a screenshot of that article. Charlie Kirk says, gun
deaths are worth it, and then the words thoughts in prayers.
It's a young woman named Kaylie Kelly is a a
young prosecutor in Harris County who I am told, according
to a very reliable source, actually handles and investigates murders.

(12:45):
You would hope the kind of person investigating and prosecuting
murders for the federal government doesn't joke around or mock
murder victims might be.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
A little more sensitive to the subject.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, yeah, forget about political beliefs for a minute. It's
this person's We've society and government has asked this person
to go out and seek justice for murder victims. And
this very person is on social media right now laughing
at someone who just got murdered.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
And the same group of people on the left who
are constantly warning us about the gun violence and the
evil of the right, are the ones that are racking
up a long sheet, as the police say, a record
of gun violence and a lot of other kinds of
violence from their side, But they keep pointing to the

(13:33):
other side and saying it's them.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Well, anyway, we took those screenshots and shared them yesterday.
They had a you know, a few dozen views before
we got a wind of them. Now, this particular social
media post I've just described to you has been viewed
four hundred and thirty five thousand, six hundred times. It's
been shared eleven thousand times. Its thousands of people have
engaged with the post. I guess we made this woman

(13:56):
famous yesterday.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well done, Kenny.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
I wonder what she'll do with it newfound celebrity status.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Well, some of the other people in the media that
have been made famous have been fired already and maybe
some more to come, let's hope.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
So why would someone do a radio show on a
Thursday

Speaker 3 (14:11):
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