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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm kind of alarmed at the large number of people
that think that we should be careful.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Today, you especially because you get out and do these
kind of appearances in public much more than I do,
and you're all over social media. Like you said one day,
I'd be hard to find or to contact if you're
relying on hunting me through social media. But yeah, we're
getting a lot of emails and a lot of phone
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calls from people personally saying that they really think we
need to be a little bit careful right now, after
well what's been happening for the last couple of years especially,
and then yesterday.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
That's what they want us to do. They want us
to be afraid. They want us to be afraid.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You might want to be cautious using common sense not
to put yourself in a situation that could turn ugly.
So it's not running and hiding, it's being aware. Watching
you're six, you can still go out and do your thing.
Just just know there are people out there, and the
kind of people that disagree with you aren't real good
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at expressing themselves, you know, vocally, so they have to
resort to violence.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, a good friend of mine who often shows up
for work around this time of day. Always says keep
your hat on a swivel.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I say that that's something I always say.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Good morning, Billy ed boy. I tell you what, this
is a tough one, huh. Sure.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
On top of the Charlie Kirk deal, the anniversary of
nine to eleven, and a lot of similarities between yesterday
and nine to eleven. For those of you who don't remember,
there were Muslims here in America cheering when the towers
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exploded and cheering when the towers collapsed, and they report
the number of dead. There were plenty of people in
this country, and I know people that witnessed it. There
were a lot of stories in the news, and then
of course they wanted to.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Tell you that's not true. They just made all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
People in New York City, people in New Orleans, where
none of the attacks took place on nine to eleven,
all over the country there were Middle Eastern types cheering
after the attacks. And yes yesterday there was a girl
on TV that was in the crowd. I guess the student,
one of the students there, and she said she was
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she witnessed Charlie Kirk get shot, and she witnessed people
cheering in that crowd.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, so this is I don't know. I'm sitting on
these sound bites of college kids celebrating his death, people
on MSNBC and their shameful reactions.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I don't know, y'all talk about him minute ago. That
guy got fired real quick at Dowd. Maybe one of
the stupidest things I've ever heard an adult humans say
that it might have just been one of his own
supporters shooting off a gun in celebration and they shot Charley.
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Just beyond moronic. I couldn't think of something that stupid
to say on my own.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
All right, it had just happened, and MSNBC we didn't
even know if he was dead yet. MSNBC was reporting
on the shooting, and Matthew Dowd, an MSNBC contributor, a
guy you're probably never going to hear from again after this.
He had this to say by.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Following up what was just said.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
He's been one of the most divisive, especially devisive younger figures,
devis who was constantly sort of pushing this sort of
hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And
I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful
words which then lead to hateful actions.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Okay, so that was the thing that got Matthew Dodd fired.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
There was another take where somebody said it was one
of his celebrated one of his porters, which was also
an MSNBC SoundBite.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
All that division and hate, that just means he had
a different opinion.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And you know, for the record, that's not dividing, that's unifying.
The point of political discourse. The point of gathering together
and having a civil debate is to unify. It's to
find common ground.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And supposedly in a school university of higher learning, that's
where that kind of thing's supposed to happen because people
are still learning. They're figuring out which beliefs they have,
what side of that political battle are they going to
be on. But no, no, And from what I understood
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about Charlie, like Steve was saying, I'm a little older
than the target audience there, but he was really really
good at arguing. He was very convincing, and he brought
a lot of people to the conservative side. And I
think that's really the problem. They didn't just you know,
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shoot him and kill him because of something he was saying.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Today. It's the things that they saw him be able
to do.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Rush Limbaugh was on Fox News a clip of him
from back in the day when he first met Charlie Kirk,
that it brought him out. He might have still been
a teen early twenties for sure, brought him out to
a golf course and he you know, Rush was like
a hero to him, and he wanted to meet him
and he talked with him him. A lot of other
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people that knew him, they were already talking about this
guy has a he's not a politician, but he has
a future in politics. There were people who were saying,
this guy, Charlie Kirk could be president someday, and that
probably just scares the hell out of the left.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Right, Yeah, Charlie Kirk was recruiting young people and redpelling them,
moving them into the conservative ideology rapid pace. And if
you don't believe in his ideas, if you think he's wrong,
the way to silence him or the way to combat
his ideas is not to suppress or censor him. It's
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to debate him. There's no other way, guys. If his
In order to teach young people that somebody's ideas are wrong,
you have to expose young people to those ideas and
then explain what's wrong about them. If you're incapable of
doing that, that might be because you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah, it don't feel good at convincing others of your
crazy liberal mindset. And I've told you from the beginning,
it's a mental illness, and some of the mentally ill
take it a little further than others, not just Charlie Kirk.
I know you've probably been through all this already. But besides,
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they're accomplishing what they wanted. Yesterday, here two attempts on Trump.
One got him and struck him and didn't kill him off.
And the other was that guy hiding in the bushes
at the golf course, which never got off.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Two on Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Steve Scalise couldn't help but bring that up yesterday. The
guy that was stalking Cavanaugh in his neighborhood with a
gun didn't get to him. The CEO of United Healthcare,
that guy that was leftis side.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
They weren't doing that for right wing extremism. They did
it for communism right.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Still, the leftist side.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Ninety six attacks on pro life centers, people that wanted
to have their babies, three hundred and fifty six attacks
on Catholic churches. This is all the violence from the left,
and yet US Bible thumping and gun toting hicks, deplorables
on the right, we're the ones who are supposed to
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be dealing out all this violence.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, when was that happening?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And by the way, and right, well were it And
you know, right wing violence success, it does. I just
don't think it happens as frequently as left wing islands does.
Compare twenty twenty months of leftists rioting all over the country,
in every city in America, the liberal media telling you
it's okay, and then one day of QAnon supporters at
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the Capitol knocking over podiums and breaking windows.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
The rioters, as they call them, the protesters, they killed
no one.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
They didn't kill anybody.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
The news will tell you that they were attacking police
and mobs, and they were, you know, just threatening and killing.
And the only person that died there that day was
killed by the police, an unarmed woman shot through on
the other side.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Of a door.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, and of course Gabby Giffords. They blamed right wingers
for that. That turned out to be a liberal. I'm
still not convinced that the person that when they're an
incident in Minnesota earlier this year. I'm still not convinced
that that person was some right wing extremists despite what
they told us. A guy worked for Tim Walls. Yeah,
and sorry right wing, but okay, that's what they tell us. Fine,
and whatever political violence, it still doesn't work. It's whatever
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they're trying to accomplish, the accomplished. The intended goal, I
presume is to stoke fear and convince people not to
have these beliefs, and that's exactly the opposite. I mean,
people will be afraid, but they're not going to change
their opinions just because you told them.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Nope, somebody, I mean Obi Wan Kenobi said it strike
me down, and I will become more powerful than you
can imagine.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It's right. That's where Charlie Kirk is right now.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
He is sending that power that he possessed out all
those millions and millions of followers. I had no idea
that this Turning Point thing was more than just a
guy going around giving speeches and stuff, because I know
you knew him personally. There were several people on TV
being interviewed yesterday that I know that you know because
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you've brought them up that they're friends of years, that
you all have hung out together, and I know got
to be if you've you knew him, you met him,
even if you just hung out with him backstage at
a conference for a while, that still gives you that
personal touch, And when you're watching that on TV, it's
more hurtful, more personal to you than to somebody like
me who just kind of I heard the name. I knew,
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you know, he was outspoken and all that kind of stuff,
but I had no idea that he had so many followers,
millions and millions of people online. Thirty five hundred different
school campuses have been recruited because of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
You damn right, you know. He and I went to
the same college. He's a little younger than me. We're
from the same place, and we didn't have anything like
this when I was going to college. We didn't have
Turning Point USA. We didn't have If you were a
Republican or a conservative, or a libertarian or a right
winger or a populist, you just kept your head down
and you were quiet because you knew what would happen
if you spoke up. But that didn't stop us from
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having those beliefs. Look where we all ended up at YEP.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
One thing I did learn about him yesterday, most of
the stuff I learned about him and before he wanted
to go to West Point Military Academy. And he I
don't know if he went to college and dropped out
or just never went to college at all, but he
wanted he wanted to go to West Point and he
didn't get selected. And at that point, instead of saying, oh, well,
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my dreams are shattered, he said, well then I'll do
something else. And he decided to do something on his own.
And that's when he started the Turning Point thing. As
a teenager, probably.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
The most the single most influential young conservative in the
twenty first century, and summer and that's why he's gone summer.
Comparing him today to Martin Luther King Junior, he was
to young conservatives what Martin Luther King Junior was to
black people, and they made him into a martyr. And now,
for the for the rest of time, for the rest
of American history, Charlie Kirk's legacy is written in stone.
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When you're a young person and you want to speak
up and have vaguely patriotic Judeo Christian beliefs. Charlie Kirk
is the guy you'll look at as a figure.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Add there's a role model.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
These eighteen, nineteen, twenty year old kids. They're just going
to be more adamant and conservative in their views now,
and that's just going to continue on.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That's going to be with them for the rest of
their life.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
When they're thirty, forty, fifty, sixty years old, they're still
going to have those those thoughts and feelings that has
just been locked into them by this attack.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Imagine how many thousands of young people were radicalized to
become conservatives yesterday A lot, millions, millions Thursday Today is Thursday.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Good morning, sexy, good morning.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Turn on radio, wake up and listen up.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
You need some coffee? Would you like some more?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Call?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I don't want to calls a stampede or revolt, but
we don't have any coffee Walton and Johnson. A woman
in California is facing felony charges for registering her dog
to vote, and to make manners even worse, the dog
wasted its vote on the Green Party.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
What a waste? No all that effort, Jill Stein, as she.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Still still gets out there and gets like thirty or
forty votes every go around.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Hey, and that' zero point five percent of the populace.
There their voice matters. Man, Yeah, yeah, Hi, everybody. Welcome
to the Walton and Johnson shown. We are alive. We
will not be silenced. Today. We remember the life of
young conservative Charlie Kirk. It's going to be impossible to
not talk about that throughout the show today.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Also the lives of those who died on nine to eleven,
about twenty four years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
How what a coincidence. I mean, it's just do you
think the murderer even realized what he was doing?
Speaker 3 (13:37):
The timing of it, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I wonder about that. The fbis embarrassed themselves by throwing
an old man to the ground and cuffing him and
roughing him up to get him out of there, and oh,
oh okay, but he didn't do it, and then they
announced it. They it was bad enough, they announced they
have a suspect in custody. But Battel took it to
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the next level when he said, we have the shooter
in custody, and they did not the second person that they.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Thought they had. They let that guy go too.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
They don't have a lot of information about the shooter,
a lot of speculation that he was, you know, obviously
trained in the use of high powered rifles and sniping.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
There's no way he wasn't. And I do question.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I wonder if he was really that good that he
would shoot somebody in the neck, because that is not
a sniper target, you know, I think so head torso
and he obviously wasn't wearing any kind of a flat jacket,
bullet proof vesting. He was wearing this little kit of
white T shirt is what he was sitting there in.
So it would have been an easy target, especially from
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two hundred yards, go for torso shot or head shot.
But if he went for head and he didn't calculate,
you know, for the distance and the bullet, maybe he
shot for the head and it went here. It's like
that far. Yeah, if that bullet dropped four or five inches, boom.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
In the neck.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Maybe he went for a chest shot to the heart
and he missed and it went up. Maybe he jerked
the trigger a little bit. I don't know, but I
doubt it don't seem likely that the shooter, being a
trained marksman, would go for the neck.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I don't know what the.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Answer is to that, to that question that you're posing
on us there, But I I just I can't help
but wonder if there is more than one person involved.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
There are people who are saying now that there was
probably kind of like the JFK assassination, there's other assassination
of Trump. Yeah, other people involved. Occasionally, very seldom is
that this the the lone guy. I tell you who
I think who specifically, but who I think was involved.
The people that probably hired the shooter, the gut pulling
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the trigger may not have even known who turn Kirk was,
or it may not have really cared. He might have
just been paid to do a job. That's how that
world works.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
And on that note, I understand that if you believe
that what Charlie Kirk was saying was correct, if you
agreed with his center right mainstream as mainstream as it
gets right wing political beliefs, the person that killed Charlie
Kirk wants you dead. They want you to die. America
was pushed farther to the right yesterday. But make no mistake,
they want you dead, They want us all dead. Act accordingly.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Start at least if you don't die, at least give
in to their way of doing things and just you know,
bend the knee to the other side.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
You're over lords. Listen to this headline the New York Times.
Charlie Kirk right wing for US and Trump ally dies
at thirty one.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Oh did he die? I just up and died? Huh
huh about that?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Just dead?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Uh no, no, I think he was murdered.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
New York Times.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Gunned him down by your lunatic left side. If they
won't change for this, they won't change for of course
not guys. It's unbelievable how bad they're Listen to this headline. Yesterday,
there was a prayer in Congress for Charlie Kirk. Anna
Paulina Luna was involved. She was a close friend of his,
and Democrats interrupted the prayer. They didn't want the prayer
to be completed, so there was a shouting match. Here's
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how The Daily Beast reports it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Maga reps and prayer for Charlie Kirk by swearing at Democrats.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Think thank you something, Why don't you.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Tell us what really had? Unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
They also wanted to have a vote or somebody a
resolution to have a day at like a Charlie Kirk day.
To honor him, and the Democrats shut that down right, No, no,
no reason for that.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Here's Matthew Euglicius.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Is.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Euglesius is a Democrat author, left wing liberal thinker from
politics dot FM. Bloomberg columnist posts a screenshot of one
of the angry Conservatives and says, this may be the
incident that sparks it chomping at the bit for violence
that will serve as a pretext for shutting down all
opposition politics.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
They keep saying that they stoep, saying our side wants
to go violent, and yet they're the ones keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
But have you noticed, even when they're killing us, they
still pretend to be victims.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Where is the violence in the streets? You know, if
somebody on the other side had been taken out like that,
people would have immediately run into the streets and started
looting and rioting and probably killing people who they thought
were the other side, the people responsible for this kind
of stuff. Did you see anybody running out into the
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street starting looting and violent protesting.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
No, Conservatives aren't responding to this with violence. They're not,
and good right, because that would be exactly what the
left wants. Yep, don't give them it. Prayer, go to church.
I went to church yesterday, and after this, there's no
mask going on or anything. I just I was gonna
go out and go run in the park, and instead
I drove to the church. You know what, I wasn't
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the only person there a bit.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
There were a lot of young people sitting around in
the cathedral, meditating in prayer, some of them crying, and
I just I couldn't help. But notice here we all
are together under this roof. Because of this tragedy they
wanted divine us. We're using it to unify.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Hey, if it.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Had been reversed all the way around, that campus would
probably be on fire right now.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
If it had been reversed the other way around. Could
you imagine the same thing in Charlotte. If a white
man had murdered a little black girl while a bunch
of white people in Washington did nothing, Charlotte would look
like stalingrat exactly. But here we are, ladies and gentlemen,
the Conservatives once again going high when they go low.
What do we learn from this? We won't be silenced,
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but I'll tell you what, it's an uphill battle.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
We don't have to act the way they do to
get our side, the things accomplished that we won't.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
We don't have to act like them.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Billy had to Hite to bring it up.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
But you have a little bit of a tissue right here.
Under tissue. Yeah, did you blow your nose? Got it?
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I know it wasn't the right time for it, but
I just wanted to break the tension before we went
to commercial.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Thanks for pointing it out. You're welcome. Today is Thursday.
What are Thursdays? Seeing frisky? Especially on Thursdays? Thursdays are
from me beautiful. Now can we all please get back
to work. I can't work Thursdays. Wilton and Johnson Radio Network,