Arctic Frost

Kenny Webster interviews author Austin Peterson.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, if you enjoy the Walton Johnson Show like we do,
then you might also enjoy the Pursuit of Happiness show
in the afternoon with oh Kinney Webster there. And as
a matter of fact, I think, do we have a clip?
Can we play a clip?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
My mom?

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Bless her, bless her soul. I love my mother. My
mom recently contacted me. She found this old VHS tape
of me in high school, and it was from a
school presentation what do you want to be when you
grow up? One of those kinds of things. And I
had briefly flirted with the idea of working for the
FBI or the CIA, doing some kind of intelligence work
for the government. And as soon as my mom showed
me this video, I thought, oh my god, we have

(00:38):
got to destroy this right now. Oh go ahead, and
can we erase the videotape please. I was humiliated to
see that that at one point, back in the nineties,
when I was a teenage version of myself, I actually
thought there was something admirable about being a spy for
the government. I don't know, but you know, in my defense,
Nintendo sixty four was hot at the time. Everybody was

(00:58):
playing GoldenEye being a secret agent for the government just
meant something different than what it means, and it was
mostly just a good video game, I think. But all
I had being said a lot of times past, we
did James Comey and all you know, Peter Stroke and
Lisa Page and all these other corrupt FBI officials we
met since then, and then finally came along Cash Battel,
and I don't I wouldn't say he's doing perfect at

(01:20):
his new job, but I don't dislike him as much
as previous people. I thought it was a little odd
that Trump praised him for how he captured the Charlie
kirk Assassen. He didn't capture the Charlie Kirkussassin. The Charlie
Kirkussassen handed himself in. But okay, so Cash Betel's not perfect.
At least he's not the last administration's. I mean, they
were much worse. Right yesterday, they had a hearing on

(01:41):
Capitol Hill and Austin. What was the name of the hearing,
Operation Arctic something, what was it?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Hey, kny, thanks for having me on the show today,
and hello to all the good people on the Gulf Coast,
the Gulf of America. Thanks so much for tuning in here. Yeah,
they called it Arctic frost in it's sort of reheated
in a way from the Obama years of the type
of government weaponization that we've seen of the Department of

(02:10):
Justice now that they did with the IRS during the
lowest learner of Barack Obama years. What we found out
is what you or I could have easily guessed, Kenny,
was that the government when the Democrats are in charge,
weaponizes it against its enemies. And while Trump has done
a lot in defunding these left wing NGOs through the

(02:33):
destruction of USA, the shuddering of the money that gets
funneled from the US taxpayers directly to these leftist activists
and these left wing groups, clearly we haven't done enough
in the police powers of the government to try and
strip out the corruption that has been used to crack
down on people like Charlie Kirkin. Turning point USA, because

(02:55):
when I was working at Freedom Works way back in
two thousand and thirteen, I believe that was that was
when you know, we had to bring in extra accountants
to account for all of the audits, the multiple audits
that the Barack Obama administration used against US for political
purposes because the Tea Parties were danger to him and

(03:15):
to their agenda and so and now what we see
is that Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA under you know,
when it was a sort of a drive by casualty
in their attempt to take out Donald Trump with the
Russia collusion hoax and the conspiracy charges that they made
against him, the impeachment hoax, all of these attacks, they

(03:37):
people like Charlie Kirk and Turning Point have been targeted
in much the same way as the Tea Party groups
were back in the day. I guess the big question
is what are we going to do about it? Because frankly,
the problem with Republicans is that they make all these
promises when they take power that there's going to be
all these these hearings, there's inquiries, right, but when are
they actually going to arrest somebody for these crimes? One

(04:00):
of they actually could arrest anybody for engaging this kind
of behavior. Yet, Christopher Ray, right, how many people you know,
could we could we purp walk today based on actionable
crimes that these people have committed using the power of
government to go after their political enemies. It just strikes me,
I know, you're like neutral, lukewarm on cash, and certainly

(04:24):
I am starting Tom I'm I'm lukewarm to getting mildly
negative because they kept telling us all, you know, just
way justice is coming. I think that they screwed the
pooch on the Epstein files. And now we're listening to
the Attorney General of the United States talking about hate
crimes and they're going to go after hate crimes, and
it just it feels like things are really off kilter.

(04:45):
And I don't know how they could possibly have any
kind of act take action against something like this arctic
frost when they can't they can't seem to get the
message straight about basic conservative principles. So you know, it's
a mess, Kenny, It's a mess.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I agree. By the way, I didn't even know Inducehoe properly.
That's the voice of Austin Peterson, libertarian nationalist and author.
Austin and I he's one of my political I mean,
I think I'm politically adjacent to Austin. I generally tend
to agree with him. Austin and I are both from
the libertarian movement, and we support the MAGA movement, even
if we're not like red hat wearing maga guys ourself, Austin,

(05:21):
you explained it perfectly now all that you know, it
could be worse. I guess Donald Trump has a history
of bad attorney generals. I don't know if cash, buttell's
the problem. I think it's Pam Bondi. Over the past
week she told us she was going to investigate office
Depot after two of their employees wouldn't print out flyers
for a Charlie Kirk Provigel. Now, mind you, those two
people already got fired. Didn't the free market already solve

(05:43):
that problem for us? Why do we need the attorney
general to get involved.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Well, here's the thing. I'm glad you brought this up
because there needs to be a strong distinction because some
lesists are saying things like all, now, all of this
cancel culture that's going on that the Conservatives are engaging
in there it's backed by the full four and power
of the government. Well, first of all, you know, it's
it's not true that what's happening to these leftists and
losing their job, it's canceled culture. Cancel culture is when

(06:09):
you tell us, you report to somebody's boss that they
gave a twenty five dollars donation to Turning Point USA,
and you get them fired from their job for, you know,
supporting Kyle Rittenhouse who was defending himself. Consequence culture is
when you're celebrating political assassinations and actual murder and your
boss has decided not to do not to work with
you anymore. And that's the free market right because free speech,

(06:32):
as you well know, Kenny being adjacent to me, that
free speech is that the government can't censor what you
are doing. And the leftists they love to trot that
out during COVID nineteen with our opinions on vaccinations, you know,
during the the Obiden years as I call it, they
love to trot out, Oh, it's not a it's not

(06:52):
a cancel cancelation is it's still free speech because it's
happening in the free market. It's not the government doing well. Now,
that's coming back to bite them in the butt. So
there's the question of what is canceled culture and what
is consequence culture. That's one aspect of this. And then
there is what the government actually is doing and what
they should be doing. What the government is doing, I
don't know, I don't have any idea. Pam BONDI is

(07:14):
making no sense, screwing up all over the place. Maybe
cash PTA's doing fine. I don't know. But what the
government should do is they should treat Antifa and many
of these Trantifa groups as we like to call them.
You should treat them the same way that they treated
the KKK in this country. The government systematically dismantled the

(07:35):
ku Klux Klan, taking apart its organizations and its many outfits.
The KKK was that at its height, I think in
the nineteen twenties, and then the government systematically broke it
down for the terrorist organization that it was like committing assassinations,
political assassinations, committing murders wasn't it wasn't unpopular to do.

(08:00):
I don't think that the American people, especially now, but
I'm seeing all across the country people registering as Republicans.
My brother Justin used to be like a soft Democrat,
like he was probably a Hillary Clinton voter. In two
thousand and eight, after the Charlie Kirk assassination, he registered
Republicans the first time in his life. Last week, I'm
seeing this in many such cases. Said, the left doesn't

(08:23):
even know how what they have done is what the
backlash to that is going to be and that might
be coming a lot sooner than they think, right with
election to have consequences. So we'll see what happens in
the upcoming midterms. And I know Charlie Kirk's turning point.
USA is also getting thousands and thousands of people, more
people are trying to sign up right now than groups
that they already have pushed. So that's also very exciting.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, government should The guy's probably converted more people to
the right posthumously than anybody that's alive for the last
year or two.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
It's like Jesus, it smarter them, right, just like John
the Baptist. You you murdered someone, and all it does
is create you murdered Christ and it creates Christians. Like
you murdered John the Baptist. It creates more Christians, right,
you murdered Charlie Kirk, It creates more conservative Christian activists
and conservative Christian activist is is is what we need

(09:20):
right now to get to fight against the left. But
what we really need, Kenny, is we need the government.
We need Pam Bondi to get on our level. We
need to get get her on our well understand what
conservative principles are. It's unfortunate that she has to be
at you know, learning this on the job. But we
need to educate her on what conservative principles are.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
That's true and we need it. Yeah, well we need
we need to investigate hate speech. It's like, come on, lady.
You know who would not agree with that? As Charlie Kirk.
He would have hated that.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
He would have hated knowing that the Attorney General was
going to go investigate people for speech crimes as a
result of his death. That Charlie Kirk would have hated bad.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
I just don't think, you know, she's not really one
of us, I would say. I'm not saying she's like
not conservative or that she hasn't come along, but it's
like she's not like you or I, where she's kind
of steeped in the in the philosophical condition of conservatism.
So I think that again, she's sort of learning this
on the job. And like a lot of people, they

(10:21):
just become lawyers and they get into politics and they
choose a party and they get you know, they say
what they think people want to hear. And honestly, if
Pam Bondi had had said this, fifteen years ago, twenty
years ago, in a Republican administration, nobody would have had it,
and I nobody would have blinked. But now I think
people are a little bit more aware of the issues

(10:42):
and are starting, you know, more people are coming online
or getting red pilled, as they like to say, and
are rightfully speaking out against what you know, the Department
of Justice head is saying right now. And my hope
is that if she can't figure it out, that they
might we might get lucky and get a good replacement
for her, But unfortunately that would probably stall the momentum

(11:04):
that we have right now. And whether Kenny in every
crisis is an opportunity, and I think right now we
really do need to take an opportunity, and we need
to We need to surge, We need to grow our movement,
We need to get more people in. We need to
expose the left for what they are. I think somebody
was like, Austin, why you why do you keep posting
all these hateful, devisive things that leftists are saying on

(11:26):
your social media? And I'm like, because I think now
is really an important time for people to see so terrible.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, hey, we have to take a quick break. Can
you hang into another segment because I don't think we're
done talking about this, Okay, sure, Yeah, that's Austin Peterson.
Follow him on XAP for Liberty, one of the greatest authors.
I would say that Austin is the godfather of the
libertarian nationalist movement, in which I'm a proud member. More
about Pam BONDI this hearing at the FBI yesterday. What

(11:53):
did a crazy mazy herono say, don't go anywhere, We'll
tell you.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
So, we're supposed to live within our income, so we
can afford to pay taxes to a government they can't
live within its income. Yeah, that Kenny Webster's pursuit of happiness.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Cracker Barrel just announced they are going back to making
biscuits from scratch. I think it's great. Cracker Barrel is
a place where the biscuits are just as white and
fluffy as their customers. And I am here for it. Kids.
Welcome back from break. I've been talking to Austin Peterson,
the creator of the libertarian nationalist movement, a notable Trump supporter,
but not necessarily somebody that worships at the altar of

(12:31):
any politician, including Trump. We were talking about his Attorney General,
Pam Bondy.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
In this country, free speech and then there's hate speech,
and there is no place, especially now, especially after what
happened to Charlie in our society.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Kay No, I'm sorry. There's not free speech and then
there's hate speech. There's just free speech, Pam Bondy. That's
the whole point. Austin Peterson, I ask you this, what
would Calvin Coolidge say?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Well, you couldn't get him to say even two words
about something like this to be out of Calvin was
known as the silent President. But thanks for having me back, Kenny.
Here's what I think the government should do. Right back
in the day, we faced a threat from the ku
Klux Klan. These were violent dogs, burning homes, lynching people,
and they used violence to control communities through fear, and

(13:20):
the government, through law enforcement and legal pressure, dismantled them.
And they didn't do it by silencing people's speech. They
didn't arrest people for saying the N word, right, they
cracked down on their crimes and they held them accountable
under the law. And today we're facing a similar pattern,
but now they're wearing a different costume. These are people
who instead of wearing white hoods. They're wearing black masks,

(13:42):
rainbow flags, carrying Antifa banners. And the solution is the same.
Apply the law equally, treat political violence on the left
the same way that the Ku Klux Klan was treated.
Investigate them, prosecute them, dismantle their organizations that advocate for
terror or intimity. A lot of these streamers, like Destiny

(14:04):
and Hassan, these are people who routinely advocate for violence
to be used against their political opponents. They call for
genocide of conservatives in this country. I'm sorry, but that
to me is actionable. Right. If we were strong enough
to break the KKK, then we're strong enough to take
down these modern day mobs that promote violence in the

(14:25):
streets against our leaders. So that's what I would recommend.
I don't know if Calvin Coolidge would do that, but
I know that's what I would do. I fire president.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Ironically, I think right before Calvin Coolidge was Woodrow Wilson,
who I think loved the ku Klux Klan, didn't.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
He he was, Yeah, he was the person who displayed
the Ku Klux Klan's revisionist history movie. Actually he displayed
it in the White House. He was a famous racist.
He said, you know, what would you say to black
people who want to vote for you? And he's like,
if they did something like that, that's a mistake and
they should correct it. Yeah, Woodrow Wilson the left, the left.

(15:02):
He is basically the intellectual godfather of the progressive movement.
And it's the same for the Margaret Sanger chick, who
you know created Planned parenthood. But the whole reason why
she created that was so that she could go in
and stop people horn mentally deficient and and and blacks

(15:22):
from reproducing at a high enough rate. So, but that's history.
That's the kind of history that will get you shot
on a comp college campus if you stay it out.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Loud, man, that's exactly true. All right, let's talk about
this for a minute. Cash Battelli yesterday with Senator Maizie
crazy Herono talking about the pull up requirements. I'm so old, Austin,
I can remember when Democrats thought that trans women should
compete with biological women in sports, which makes this sound
bite a little confusing. The question I had is, yeah,

(15:54):
go ahead, and she's looking through her notes here, she's
a little sweat that you are.

Speaker 6 (15:57):
Not requiring applicants to be able to do a certain
kind of pull ups, which a lot of women cannot
because of physiological differences. Are you requiring these kinds of
pull ups?

Speaker 5 (16:16):
We're requiring a physical program at BFTC a quantico because
FBI agents carrying guns in the field have to chase
down bad guys and do really hard work of the
physical fitness standards of those agents.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
So are you propering these signs of pull ups?

Speaker 5 (16:31):
We're requiring everybody to pass the eighteen eleven standards at BFTC.
If you want to chase down a bad guy and
put him in handcuffs, you better be able to do
a pull up.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
The reason I ask is that other I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I'm gonna pausit right here, Austin. I can't help but
notice they want trans men to compete with biological women,
but they think the rules should be different for biological
women when they want to be FBI agents. Obviously a
little inconsistency here in the progressive principles? Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
You had to know that the LGBT movement was never
going to last as a cohesive, solid movement when you
have the t the transgender that denies the bee which
is bisexual, because is in bisexual admitting that there's a
dichotomy of sexes. So there's a little bit of conflict there.
So then you know, you obviously she's admitting that there

(17:22):
are biological differences between women. This blows up the whole
left experiment in recent days. I mean they but again,
the problem Kenny was looking the way we look at
this versus how the left looks at this. We look
at this logically, but they don't look at this logically.
This is not about logic for them. I think all
of these people who are saying these awful, evil things

(17:42):
that Charlie Kirk said, he never said, so they live
in a fantasy land. Here's how I would sort of
how I would picture this, Kenny. It's like, you know,
you're fighting an enemy. Okay. I'm sure that George Soros
and his cronies and the people who are growing the left,
they're probably they're probably very logical people. They use reason.

(18:07):
You could probably have a conversation with some of the
less elite and they would explain to you their whole meeting.
You know, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, his definition of freedom and
the way that he addresses it logically, is that the
chicken in every pot. If you're not if you're hungry,
you're not free. But you and I, we don't define
freedom the same way. You could understand why FDR defined

(18:30):
freedom as freedom from hunger, freedom from fear. But in
his definition of freedom, he's creating the welfare state. He's
creating the works recovery projects, he's creating the New Deal,
He's creating the welfare state. He's creating you know, his
definition of freedom is so antithetical to what we believe, Kenny,

(18:51):
that it's like we live on completely different planets. Our freedom.
Definition of freedom is freedom from freedom from tyranny, freedom
from control, the freedom to make decisions about our lives individually,
from freedom from being having the majority of our money
stolen from us every year and working half of our
lives just to pay for the government so that the

(19:13):
other guy can get a chicken in his pot. So
knowing that, knowing that the problem is is that those
people using those arguments have are coming against us, are
sending out their foot soldiers. It's it's like you may
not have a problem with the average leftists, we interact
with them in our communities. You meet them, probably gonna

(19:35):
go to Walmart. There's the cashier. They got purple hair.
You kind of assume, right, But the problem is that
those people are weaponized. They act like it's like the
zombie plants. They can be they can be turned on
and off using social media, using algorithms. Their brains are mushy,
it's soft, and they it's I don't know if you

(19:55):
ever watch those Natures specials where like a wasp will
like lay its eggs inside of the of another like
a spider, and then the things will emerge out of it.
It's like body snatchers kind of a thing. Yes, yeah,
this is so the left. Because they're so mushy headed.
They they'll listen to things like FDR who tells the

(20:17):
and there or George Sorows who says you're not free
if you're hungry, you're not free if you're poor, and
then they're like, you're right, I'm not free if I'm poor.
I shouldn't have to stand here in this line and
work and do this catcher thing. Capitalism is what's what's
killing us. And then the problem is is that they
take those purple hair freaks and then they unleash them
on us like a virus. It operates like a they

(20:37):
operate like a botnet. They swarm. And I've had this
happen to me just in the last couple of weeks
because I appeared on the Occupied Democrats Facebook page. They
were all attacking me over supporting Trump because you know,
the tariffs are hurting my business, so they're all, you know,
they're swarming me, They're swarm I'm getting swarms of hey,
death threats in the last week, Kenny. And it's because

(20:57):
these people their brains are soft mush and they it's
it's like you know, when you look at Patsy's throughout history,
people that you know, the conspiracies have happened and Patsy's
have you know, gone out there and done the bidding
of government agents. I mean the ladies, the two women
who murdered Kim Jong UN's brother in the airport, those
two women who assassinated him, they didn't even know that

(21:20):
what they were doing was They legitimately didn't know that
they were committing a political assassination. They were so mush
headed that they that they had been used by intelligence
agencies to do what they thought was a social media
prank and they ended up killing the guy. And it
was all because the government of North Korea had managed
to brainwash these chicks and had them commit a political

(21:42):
assassination which killed Kim Johnston's brother. There's video of it, right,
but it's it operates in a similar way. Look what
at this Tyler Robinson, this mush brain kid. You know,
he had everything going for him, and then all of
a sudden he gets plugged into the less neural networks
and the wasp lay the eggs in his brain. And
then you know, now we see the fruits of that

(22:05):
as you know, the as the violence and the terrorism
comes bursting forth. It's a brain virus. They operate like
a botnet. They swarm when they attack. That's because they're collectivists,
they're communists, and they're just frankly, they're just not They're
not as intelligent as they like to think that they are.
They don't understand and that is why so many of
them have mental illness, open mental illness, right, those are they?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
They admit it and they celebrate.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
It, yes, and and when then then what do they do?
They unleash these violent, evil retards on the rest of us,
and they do it, and and then what do we do?
And then they kill and they attack us in the streets.
And then when we and then you know, when we
have a recourse where we take if we dare take
a recourse, then we're the aggressors, right, We're the evil ones.

(22:53):
And and this plays out on a metal level, and
it plays out on a micro level. And this is
what we're saying. So you know, I don't know if
Pambondi and the Department of Justice as it is currently constituted,
is capable of taking a threat. If you can't even
speak the conservative language of free speech and hate speech,
how in the hell are you possibly going to dismantle

(23:16):
these kinds of neural networks that we are at war with.
We're outgunned, Kenny. The fact is is that we are outgunned.
And you know, our backs are to the wall. And
I don't see a whole lot of warriors to my
lefter to my right. I see you, Kenny. I don't
see many other people. I don't see many other people
out there, you know, with their spears pointed out or
the wagon circled. I see a lot of grifters. I

(23:39):
see a lot of people, you know, taking this opportunity
to try and monetize Charlie Kirk as much as they
possibly can, or say that they know, or to reveal
private text messages that they had with them. I see
a lot of I see a lot of crap out
there on the right, Kenny, but I don't see a
lot of Charlie Kirk's. There was only one Charlie Kirk,
and he's gone, and I don't know who's going to

(23:59):
replace him. I don't think anybody can. I hate to
end on a down note, but that's just those are
the facts as I see him.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Well, I hope it's not somebody worse. Right about all
that being said, you talked about people grifting off of
his death, I want to let everybody know Austin and
I are actually selling we are Charlie t shirts at
I Love WJ dot com. One percent of that money
will go towards charity. You know, people asked us if
we can make sure it's available like that. We're happy
to do it, but you know, we'll just get we're

(24:25):
giving the money over to a very worthy cause.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
And yeah, I donated mine what we've already sold the
Charlie stuff because people were just hitting me up a lot, Kenny,
and I felt really conflicted about it, but then I thought,
you know what, they want to wear it to rallies.
They want to have stuff to remember him by. So
I made it, and I've already made a donation to
Turning Point and any other sales that we get in
any profits that I get, I will donate straight to

(24:47):
Turning Point.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Happy to do it. Hey, Austin, I got to tell you,
I think you do a great job. Run in our
online store, and I'm glad you're out there, brother, Thanks Bud.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Check it out. I love WJ dot Com. There's more
than just Charlie's stuff there. We actually have been adding
a bunch of new stuff for you guys, so keep
an eye out on that collection as it's been revamped
and updated. We're actually undergoing a major overhaul of the
I LOVEWJ dot Com website, so keep an eye on
that in the coming days bookmarket and check it out.
We lovingly call it the grift Shop.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
Hey, and while you're at it, follow Austin on Ax
and Instagram. You'll be glad you

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Did the only thing that hurts more than paying taxes
not paying taxes, Kenny, Webster's pursuit of happiness