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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Now this is going to sound weird. It's selling a
man in this up.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, because you have that Chicago accident. Is that why
it's going to sound weird? Yeah, I mean that's probably
probably the reason.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Yet all of the people two days ago are really
twenty four hours ago that we're accusing us of participating
in cancel culture because we got some public school teachers
fired after they celebrated a school shooting on social media.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It seems inappropriate to me anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, are now calling for a boycott of Disney and ABC.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
See. I think some of the people are smart enough
to realize how hypocritical that is. But they realize that
the average Democrat voter, of the average liberal mind is
not smart enough to get that, and so they just
keep plowing ahead even though it looks foolish to us.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
If you have a liberal aunt with twelve cats, and
you tried eating Thanksgiving dinner with her once a year,
twenty four hours ago, she was a cute using you
a participating in cancel culture because you didn't like when
a publicly funded official, a prosecutor, a public school teacher,
a college professor was applauding a school shooting on social media. Right,
(01:15):
she said, you're cancel culture now now twenty four hours later,
she wants Disney boycotted.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, it's fine for them to get what they want,
but you shouldn't be asking for stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And of course that's because of Jimmy Kimmel. We'll be
talking about that today. His show is indefinitely suspended. I'm
really gonna miss seeing clips of it online because.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's really all I Yeah, I'm so sad.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'm gonna miss seeing him say stupid things in twelve
second sound bites because that's the only time I ever
watched that show.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
What it is especially lovely about this as not only
have they suspended Kimmel indefinitely, ABC, well Sinclair Media and
probably all of ABC is going to air a Charlie
Kirk tribute in the timeslot where Jimmy would have been
(02:06):
seen on TV.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
We need to explain with the Sinclair Broadcast group is
because some people might not understand when you're in a
small city somewhere and you're watching the local ABC News affiliate,
technically sometimes you're not watching a Disney owned affiliate. You're
watching a TV affiliate that's owned by this I mean,
(02:27):
it's a big company, But it's a smaller network of
somewhat conservative TV affiliates, but.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It is the largest group of television stations that airs
ABC and them and and another network Sinclair and somebody else.
I just had it here a minute ago. They told
ABC we're not going to run it anymore, and at
some point ABC finally decided, well, okay, I guess we'll
(02:55):
just do it across the board, and they're saying he's
done for good. But they are saying that they would
expect a direct, heartfelt apology directly to the Kirk family
and a sizable donation made in his name, and that might,
(03:16):
you know, get them to reconsider right exactly. In the meantime,
they'll run a tribute to Charlie Kirk in the place
where Jimmy Kimmel would have been probably telling more lies
and just saying horrible things. Yeah, exactly. And people are,
of course, they've just lost their mind, the people that
(03:37):
would have wanted to watch that show. What happened to
freedom of speech? You know, they keep forgetting there. They're
free to say what they want to say, but then
the people they said things about are free to react.
Those are called consequences of your actions.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, freedom of speech means you don't get a rest,
they'll put you in jail. Yeah, you don't get incriminated
for a thought crime. That's not what they think.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Jimmy Kimmel has the right to have a show on ABC.
It's his right.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, it isn't. If Steve and I went on the
air and the day after a school shooting and we said, well,
look a school shooter finally got it right for once,
this show would probably get taken off the air, right
and I could because that would be a sick, disgusting
thing to say. Obviously in context here, I'm I'm not not.
Just just so we're clear right now, that doesn't mean
(04:26):
after we got fired we'd be walked out of the
building in handcuffs. We'd still have homes and stuff. We
just have to find new jobs. I can't believe people
are shocked by this. What do you mean a public
school teacher can't celebrate a school shooting on their private
social media account where the only people that could see
it are other teachers in a handful of parents who
they're friends with on Facebook. Huh, that's what this is outrageous.
(04:51):
You can't punish them, but are you really this dumb dude?
Are you really this dumb? Come on?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
A lot of them are yes.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I know. It's scary because there's people out there that
were public education that might listen to this show and
they think, well, hang on, can I get punished for
something I'm saying. The reason why this is so remarkable
is because for so long, quote unquote, cancel culture was
being used against people on the right for things they
jokes they told. Fifteen years ago. Fifteen years ago, I
(05:19):
told a gay joke on Facebook and I forgot about
it and then someone found it, and now I can't
be the coach of the pee wee football team anymore. Oh,
that seems a little unfair. I can't think of a
better example than Poladine.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, you know what, I exactly. Yeah, that was so
important that we get that taken care of.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah. Polladine was an old white lady from the South
who liked to cook with butter, and somebody claimed that
back in the seventies she used the N word once.
Am I explaining this right?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Pretty much?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And Target or Walmart I don't remember who was canceled
her cooking wear line.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Wait what, well, it makes perfect sense, you know because
that's going to fix things. That's gonna make everything better,
right anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Sinclair Broadcast Group owns TV stations in places like Amarillo, Corpus, Christy, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
They have some bigger markets too, but mostly smaller ones.
Some bigger ones like San Antonio, Austin, Reno, but mostly
it's not huge place. It's smaller markets. The top two
major cities in America No, and they carry shows from ABC, CBS, NBC,
(06:22):
and Fox. So if you're in a smaller market watching
a major TV network, you're probably not actually watching ABC.
You're probably actually watching Sinclair. And the people that run
Sinclair are not frothing at the mouth commis that want
to misinform the audience about who shot and killed Charlie Kirk.
But weirdly enough, ABC actually put this guy on the
(06:46):
We hit some new lows over.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
The weekend with the Maga gang desperately trying to characterize
this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than
one of them and do everything they can.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
To score political points from it. In between, do you
understand he's talking about Erica Kirk, He's talking about the
wife of the person who just got murdered, and he's saying,
you know what these people are doing, They're trying to
make money off this is sick. This woman's husband just
got murdered, dude, and everyone in the country watched yeap.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And over that. I mean this, the idea that this
is one of those right wing Maga Trumpe supporters who
went out and killed Charlie Kirk. It's just he said,
this ludicrous. But if you lie to stupid people, and
stupid people watch his show, stupid people will just nod.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Their head and go who That's what I thought, Yeah,
because it confirms their bias. Yeah. He said this after
a day of news stories about the pre hearing for
the trial, in which we saw mountains of evidence explaining
what motivated this guy, what did it? And while all
that was going on, Jimmy Kimmel and his writers they
weren't watching the news. They were off in their own
(07:54):
little bubble, believing what they'd seen on I don't know,
TikTok or whatever over the weekend is completely true.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Plenty of politicians were trying to express the same opinions to.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Put this in perspective. After we watched that whole day
of news media coverage about the text messages and all that.
At the end of it, I wondered if the government
was lying to us. They didn't even watch it, right,
I saw a day full of news stories that actually
confirmed all of my political biases, and I wondered if
they were true or not. They didn't even pay attention.
(08:26):
They just made up a thing in their head, went
on TV and told this to millions of people, and
then weirdly they got canceled. And now they're shocked by that.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
How dare you?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Why would someone do a radio show on a Thursday Walton.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And Johnson Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So those of us that grew up in the twentieth century,
it's hard to watch even a few minutes of Colbert
or Jimmy Kimmel and believe our eyes, this isn't comedy
the low it is not. It's so different from I mean,
I can remember Jay Leno, I remember Letterman, I remember
(09:04):
what was a Johnny Carson? Right, I remember Johnny Carson's
last show. I was a little kid. My mom let
me stay up late one night and watch it, and
there was nothing political about it.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
If you watch five.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Minutes of Kimmel or Colbert there's nothing comedic about it,
not at all.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They do the show basically for each other. You get
a feeling that it's like if we just did this
radio show for our family and friends or just the
people that you know work here in the building with us.
It's just kind of a built in audience to applaud
and chuckle at little comments that they make.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
August fourteenth, twenty thirteen, NBC News, NPR, CNN, the BBC,
Politico dot Com. I'm just reading the list because it's
on my screen in front of me. All did a
story about how offensive it was that a rodeo clown
dressed up like Obama at the Missouri State Fair. The
(10:06):
national news media said, it is it is inappropriate to
make something so unpolitical into something so political. The same
people who tried to cancel a rodeo clown, now twelve
years later are telling you that it's like rape and
(10:26):
murder to take Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert off the
air for the crime of being too politically biased.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, and somebody had to comment in the comment section
after the story I'm reading. So we're just not allowed
to have opinions anymore? Oh yeah, you can have your
opinions express them please, I'd like to hear yours next,
and then we'll see what the consequences are to those opinions,
because you have the right to say it. That's a
freedom of choice. But even going all the way back
(10:53):
to the founding fathers, who you know, kind of wrote
this in and said, you know, we should have a
freedom of speech, they may some statements, if you'll remember,
seemed a bit anti England at the time, and I
believe that several of them paid a price right and
if we hadn't won Netwar, they would have all paid
(11:13):
the ultimate price. Their freedom of speech would have been
corrected quickly by the folks in England.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Tell me if you.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Would disagree with this point.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Fox News has a late night comedy show that's less
politically biased than ABC Networks or CBS Networks late night
comedy show. When I watch Gutfeld, he'll make fun of Trump.
When I watch they make fun of the right all
the time. When I see clips of Kimmel and Colbert,
not only is it not funny, it's it's on the
(11:45):
far left. I think I think Goutfeld's closer to the middle.
I think Fox News has a comedy show that's closer
to the middle than CBS and ABC.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That's crazy and far superior just in well, like I said,
they're not even trying to be funny anymore on those
other shows, and Guttfeld is very funny. This One reporter
said that ABC's been looking for a reason to get
rid of Kimmel the same way the CBS got rid
of Colbert, and I haven't agreed with anything either one
(12:15):
of those guys. I said for many, many years. If
ABC have done this to Jimmy Kimmel, they have no
excuse to keep the View on the air any longer.
Kind of a good point. I mean, that's exactly correct.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
When you watch daytime TV on a major network and
you stumble onto a show like The View, do you
feel like that's a show for average Americans? Do you
feel like that's a show for average because that's really
who watches daytime TV? Housewives, college kids, who's watching it?
Cleaning ladies? I mean, who's got this on? Are they
(12:52):
all communists? Is it really that bad? Is it really
that bad in this country than anyone that stays home
on an average workday and doesn't have to go to
work is a full blown Marxist and they want to
watch Joy Bear opine about socialism.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Something's really really wrong with anybody that wants to sit
through any of that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Thursday today is Thursday.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Good morning, sexy, good morning, Wake up and listen up.
You need some coffee?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Would you like some more called I don't want to
calls a stampede or revolt, but we don't have any coffee.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Walton and Johnson
Now this is going to sound weird. It's selling a
man in this up.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Well, because you have that Chicago accident. Is that why
it's going to sound weird? Yeah, I mean that's probably
probably the reason.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Yet all of the people two days ago are really
twenty four hours ago that we're accusing us of participating
in cancel culture because we got some public school teachers
fired after they celebrated a school shooting on social media.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It seems inappropriate to me anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, are now calling for a boycott of Disney and ABC.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
See. I think some of the people are smart enough
to realize how hypocritical that is. But they realize that
the average Democrat voter, of the average liberal mind is
not smart enough to get that, and so they just
keep plowing ahead even though it looks foolish to us.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
If you have a liberal aunt with twelve cats, and
you tried eating Thanksgiving dinner with her once a year,
twenty four hours ago, she was a cute using you
a participating in cancel culture because you didn't like when
a publicly funded official, a prosecutor, a public school teacher,
a college professor was applauding a school shooting on social media. Right,
(01:15):
she said, you're cancel culture now now twenty four hours later,
she wants Disney boycotted.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, it's fine for them to get what they want,
but you shouldn't be asking for stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And of course that's because of Jimmy Kimmel. We'll be
talking about that today. His show is indefinitely suspended. I'm
really gonna miss seeing clips of it online because.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
That's really all I Yeah, I'm so sad.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I'm gonna miss seeing him say stupid things in twelve
second sound bites because that's the only time I ever
watched that show.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
What it is especially lovely about this as not only
have they suspended Kimmel indefinitely, ABC, well Sinclair Media and
probably all of ABC is going to air a Charlie
Kirk tribute in the timeslot where Jimmy would have been
(02:06):
seen on TV.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
We need to explain with the Sinclair Broadcast group is
because some people might not understand when you're in a
small city somewhere and you're watching the local ABC News affiliate,
technically sometimes you're not watching a Disney owned affiliate. You're
watching a TV affiliate that's owned by this I mean,
(02:27):
it's a big company, But it's a smaller network of
somewhat conservative TV affiliates, but.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It is the largest group of television stations that airs
ABC and them and and another network Sinclair and somebody else.
I just had it here a minute ago. They told
ABC we're not going to run it anymore, and at
some point ABC finally decided, well, okay, I guess we'll
(02:55):
just do it across the board, and they're saying he's
done for good. But they are saying that they would
expect a direct, heartfelt apology directly to the Kirk family
and a sizable donation made in his name, and that might,
(03:16):
you know, get them to reconsider right exactly. In the meantime,
they'll run a tribute to Charlie Kirk in the place
where Jimmy Kimmel would have been probably telling more lies
and just saying horrible things. Yeah, exactly. And people are,
of course, they've just lost their mind, the people that
(03:37):
would have wanted to watch that show. What happened to
freedom of speech? You know, they keep forgetting there. They're
free to say what they want to say, but then
the people they said things about are free to react.
Those are called consequences of your actions.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, freedom of speech means you don't get a rest,
they'll put you in jail. Yeah, you don't get incriminated
for a thought crime. That's not what they think.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Jimmy Kimmel has the right to have a show on ABC.
It's his right.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
No, it isn't. If Steve and I went on the
air and the day after a school shooting and we said, well,
look a school shooter finally got it right for once,
this show would probably get taken off the air, right
and I could because that would be a sick, disgusting
thing to say. Obviously in context here, I'm I'm not not.
Just just so we're clear right now, that doesn't mean
(04:26):
after we got fired we'd be walked out of the
building in handcuffs. We'd still have homes and stuff. We
just have to find new jobs. I can't believe people
are shocked by this. What do you mean a public
school teacher can't celebrate a school shooting on their private
social media account where the only people that could see
it are other teachers in a handful of parents who
they're friends with on Facebook. Huh, that's what this is outrageous.
(04:51):
You can't punish them, but are you really this dumb dude?
Are you really this dumb? Come on?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
A lot of them are yes.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I know. It's scary because there's people out there that
were public education that might listen to this show and
they think, well, hang on, can I get punished for
something I'm saying. The reason why this is so remarkable
is because for so long, quote unquote, cancel culture was
being used against people on the right for things they
jokes they told. Fifteen years ago. Fifteen years ago, I
(05:19):
told a gay joke on Facebook and I forgot about
it and then someone found it, and now I can't
be the coach of the pee wee football team anymore. Oh,
that seems a little unfair. I can't think of a
better example than Poladine.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, you know what, I exactly. Yeah, that was so
important that we get that taken care of.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah. Polladine was an old white lady from the South
who liked to cook with butter, and somebody claimed that
back in the seventies she used the N word once.
Am I explaining this right?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Pretty much?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
And Target or Walmart I don't remember who was canceled
her cooking wear line.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Wait what, well, it makes perfect sense, you know because
that's going to fix things. That's gonna make everything better,
right anyway.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Sinclair Broadcast Group owns TV stations in places like Amarillo, Corpus, Christy, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.
They have some bigger markets too, but mostly smaller ones.
Some bigger ones like San Antonio, Austin, Reno, but mostly
it's not huge place. It's smaller markets. The top two
major cities in America No, and they carry shows from ABC, CBS, NBC,
(06:22):
and Fox. So if you're in a smaller market watching
a major TV network, you're probably not actually watching ABC.
You're probably actually watching Sinclair. And the people that run
Sinclair are not frothing at the mouth commis that want
to misinform the audience about who shot and killed Charlie Kirk.
But weirdly enough, ABC actually put this guy on the
(06:46):
We hit some new lows over.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
The weekend with the Maga gang desperately trying to characterize
this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than
one of them and do everything they can.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
To score political points from it. In between, do you
understand he's talking about Erica Kirk, He's talking about the
wife of the person who just got murdered, and he's saying,
you know what these people are doing, They're trying to
make money off this is sick. This woman's husband just
got murdered, dude, and everyone in the country watched yeap.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And over that. I mean this, the idea that this
is one of those right wing Maga Trumpe supporters who
went out and killed Charlie Kirk. It's just he said,
this ludicrous. But if you lie to stupid people, and
stupid people watch his show, stupid people will just nod.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Their head and go who That's what I thought, Yeah,
because it confirms their bias. Yeah. He said this after
a day of news stories about the pre hearing for
the trial, in which we saw mountains of evidence explaining
what motivated this guy, what did it? And while all
that was going on, Jimmy Kimmel and his writers they
weren't watching the news. They were off in their own
(07:54):
little bubble, believing what they'd seen on I don't know,
TikTok or whatever over the weekend is completely true.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Plenty of politicians were trying to express the same opinions to.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Put this in perspective. After we watched that whole day
of news media coverage about the text messages and all that.
At the end of it, I wondered if the government
was lying to us. They didn't even watch it, right,
I saw a day full of news stories that actually
confirmed all of my political biases, and I wondered if
they were true or not. They didn't even pay attention.
(08:26):
They just made up a thing in their head, went
on TV and told this to millions of people, and
then weirdly they got canceled. And now they're shocked by that.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
How dare you?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Why would someone do a radio show on a Thursday Walton.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And Johnson Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
So those of us that grew up in the twentieth century,
it's hard to watch even a few minutes of Colbert
or Jimmy Kimmel and believe our eyes, this isn't comedy
the low it is not. It's so different from I mean,
I can remember Jay Leno, I remember Letterman, I remember
(09:04):
what was a Johnny Carson? Right, I remember Johnny Carson's
last show. I was a little kid. My mom let
me stay up late one night and watch it, and
there was nothing political about it.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
If you watch five.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Minutes of Kimmel or Colbert there's nothing comedic about it,
not at all.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
They do the show basically for each other. You get
a feeling that it's like if we just did this
radio show for our family and friends or just the
people that you know work here in the building with us.
It's just kind of a built in audience to applaud
and chuckle at little comments that they make.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
August fourteenth, twenty thirteen, NBC News, NPR, CNN, the BBC,
Politico dot Com. I'm just reading the list because it's
on my screen in front of me. All did a
story about how offensive it was that a rodeo clown
dressed up like Obama at the Missouri State Fair. The
(10:06):
national news media said, it is it is inappropriate to
make something so unpolitical into something so political. The same
people who tried to cancel a rodeo clown, now twelve
years later are telling you that it's like rape and
(10:26):
murder to take Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert off the
air for the crime of being too politically biased.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, and somebody had to comment in the comment section
after the story I'm reading. So we're just not allowed
to have opinions anymore? Oh yeah, you can have your
opinions express them please, I'd like to hear yours next,
and then we'll see what the consequences are to those opinions,
because you have the right to say it. That's a
freedom of choice. But even going all the way back
(10:53):
to the founding fathers, who you know, kind of wrote
this in and said, you know, we should have a
freedom of speech, they may some statements, if you'll remember,
seemed a bit anti England at the time, and I
believe that several of them paid a price right and
if we hadn't won Netwar, they would have all paid
(11:13):
the ultimate price. Their freedom of speech would have been
corrected quickly by the folks in England.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Tell me if you.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Would disagree with this point.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Fox News has a late night comedy show that's less
politically biased than ABC Networks or CBS Networks late night
comedy show. When I watch Gutfeld, he'll make fun of Trump.
When I watch they make fun of the right all
the time. When I see clips of Kimmel and Colbert,
not only is it not funny, it's it's on the
(11:45):
far left. I think I think Goutfeld's closer to the middle.
I think Fox News has a comedy show that's closer
to the middle than CBS and ABC.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
That's crazy and far superior just in well, like I said,
they're not even trying to be funny anymore on those
other shows, and Guttfeld is very funny. This One reporter
said that ABC's been looking for a reason to get
rid of Kimmel the same way the CBS got rid
of Colbert, and I haven't agreed with anything either one
(12:15):
of those guys. I said for many, many years. If
ABC have done this to Jimmy Kimmel, they have no
excuse to keep the View on the air any longer.
Kind of a good point. I mean, that's exactly correct.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
When you watch daytime TV on a major network and
you stumble onto a show like The View, do you
feel like that's a show for average Americans? Do you
feel like that's a show for average because that's really
who watches daytime TV? Housewives, college kids, who's watching it?
Cleaning ladies? I mean, who's got this on? Are they
(12:52):
all communists? Is it really that bad? Is it really
that bad in this country than anyone that stays home
on an average workday and doesn't have to go to
work is a full blown Marxist and they want to
watch Joy Bear opine about socialism.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Something's really really wrong with anybody that wants to sit
through any of that.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Thursday today is Thursday.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Good morning, sexy, good morning, Wake up and listen up.
You need some coffee?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Would you like some more called I don't want to
calls a stampede or revolt, but we don't have any coffee.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.