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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, if you enjoy the Walton Johnson Show like we do,
then you might also enjoy the Pursuit of Happiness show
in the afternoon with oh Kinny Webster there.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And as a matter of fact, I think, do we
have a clip? Can we play a clip?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
This big news just broke from Hollywood. Arnold Schwarzenegger's girlfriend
is frustrated that he apparently he still has not proposed
to her. On the bright side, he still hasn't impregnated
or made either said that's good. You know? Is this
a spoiled, pappered, narcissistic Hollywood brat or what?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Or what? All right?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It would be impossible to talk about Hollywood today without
talking about what is obviously the biggest story in both
politics and Hollywood at the moment. Yesterday, the late night
talk show host Jimmy Kimmel was indefinitely suspended from his
late night show, and of course, this happened on the
heels of Stephen Colbert being let go of the late
night show that David Letterman once founded.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's kind of obvious.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Considering both of these shows were taken off the air
so abruptly that probably at the end of the day
this was more than just politics.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
This was about money.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
If those guys were vastly popular, if they were hemorrhaging ratings,
if these guys were so profitable for the company that
they were going to lose billions of dollars by taking
it off the air, then they simply wouldn't have done that.
But they are taking it off the air because at
the end of the day, something that's controversial, something that's
a liability, and something that's not making a lot of
money just isn't worth keeping around.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
That's how any business works.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Earlier this week, after a whole day of TV news
coverage of the first legal hearing for the Charlie Kirk
Assassin that was filled with evidence and transcripts of text
messages and testimony from family members and friends about his
political beliefs, Jimmy Kimmel decided to go on TV and
just say exactly the opposite of what everybody now indisputably
(01:57):
knew to be true. That Charlie Kirk Assassin was a
left but Jimmy Kimmel didn't know that. Because Jimmy Kimmel
and his writers live in a bubble, they weren't sitting
around watching the news all day they were busy writing
jokes about why Trump is Hitler, and later that evening
on TV this happened get some new lows over the
weekend with the Magga Gang desperately trying to characterize this
(02:18):
kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one
of them, and anything other than one of them. You know,
as a late night talk show host back in the day,
in the twentieth century, it was very uncommon for a
late night comedian to talk about a school shooting, much
less do a week of coverage on it.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That would almost never happen.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You know, that's the sort of news story that Jay
Leno or Johnny Carson probably would have avoided. Even David
Letterman or Conan, who were considered to be a little
more controversial, probably wouldn't have done a show about bowling
for Columbine or you know, the Virginia Tech massacre. That
wouldn't have been a story they would have covered. Still,
Jimmy Kimmel couldn't help himself. You remember when he did
a monologue one time where he didn't tell a single joke.
(02:57):
He just cried about how getting rid of Obamacare was
a fascist thing for Donald Trump, to do is a
ten minute monologue about how he loved Obamacare. At some point,
late night talk shows stopped being about comedy and they
started being about politics. Stop trying to get a laughter
from the audience and just trying to get applause.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You got to wonder who is this stuff?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Even for the Babylon Bee, where they actually do comedy,
had the following headline last night. I thought this was brilliant.
The headline The Babylon Bee is outraged to learn Jimmy
Kimmel was fired just because he's a mega Republican. And
that's pretty amazing. And while you're all feeling bad for
Jimmy Kimmel or not feeling bad for Jimmy Kimmel, do
you know who Dicky Barrett is. He was the lead
(03:40):
singer of a ska band in the nineties called the
Mighty Mighty Bosstones. You might remember him from his cameo
appearance in the movie Clueless with Claire Danes. Well, he
was fired after twenty years of being the announcer on
Jimmy Kimmel Live because he didn't want to get the
COVID vaccine. All these statements from Jimmy Kimmel and the
media and Jim Tapper opining about why this thing got
(04:02):
canceled kind of seem irrelevant at the end of the
day if it wasn't profitable. But rather than me giving
you my take because you've already heard it, what if
we talk to an actual comedian. Tim Mathis is our
Hollywood News reporter. He's also one of the guys that
helped us found Operation Comedy Therapy so many years ago.
Now he runs a comedy club in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Tim,
I got to think people in the stand up comedy
(04:23):
world aren't crying any crocodile tears today for Jimmy Kimmel,
are they?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Uh? Well, I've seen a good amount of people post
about how it's an assault on free speech and stuff
like that. I mean, the people don't seem to understand
that you're hired and fired based on what you can
do for the company and how much liability you're bringing
to the company, Like you said, if it's not something
(04:50):
that's making you a lot of money, and in fact,
most likely it was losing them a lot of money,
just like Colbert was. I mean, they're probably looking for
a reason to Jennison. I am hearing that there are
rumors that he's only on a hiatus, that he's going
to come back in a few days. We'll see how
that goes. That'll be interesting. We'll see if maybe he
(05:12):
dials it down a little bit, at least on the
completely false information that he seems to like to trot
out there, because that's the kind of thing that the
government actually could say something about since it is a
broadcast it's one of the original Big three broadcast network.
So we'll see what happens if he does come back,
(05:34):
or if they do in fact go ahead and terminate
his contract.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay, So the controversy about the FCC license, even that's
theoretical because I don't think the FCC chairman actually threatened
to take the license away.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But on that note, let's pretend hypothetically they did.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
How many people actually watch ABC on terrestrial TV with
an antenna, and how many people watch it with cable.
I got to think almost nobody's watching it in the
terrestial sense. Say we like the way, so some people
are listening to this radio show right now. Most people
watch it with a streaming service. They've got, you know,
a paramount plush or something like that. Whatever, it may
be that they're watching network TV shows at Peacock to
(06:13):
watch NBC. I don't even know what Disney. I have
no idea. What how do you even watch Jimmy Kimmel
with your computer? I have no idea. But isn't that
what most people are doing nowadays?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah? Most people are streaming. Like you talked about the
fact that most likely he's losing money on the show,
the ABC and turn Disney's losing money on the show.
So yeah, most people have switched to streaming. I don't
even know where to watch Jimmy Kimmell on streaming. I
guess now it's nowhere, But you know, that's that's what
(06:46):
happens sometimes.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's it. Huh.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
By the way, do you know anybody that was watching
Jimmy Kimmel in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, I don't either. I mean, I assume that the
demo is slight is pretty old for these shows, you know,
that's one of the big things, is that they're really
not getting any of the young audience. And of course
that's what you want if you're in the entertainment businesses.
You want to keep getting young younger viewers. But it
(07:20):
looks like Jimmy Kimmel has struck out.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You do gotta wonder does Hollywood not understand the pendulum
is swinging so hard in the opposite direction now, not
in spite of them, but because of them. Like America
looks at Jimmy Kimmel and he just seems smug. He's unpopular.
Nobody's tuning in anymore. Amanda Seafried, the actress, same thing, right,
She's calling Charlie Kirk hateful, and she's suggesting that he
(07:45):
invited his own assassination and that created controversy for her,
so now she's trying to walk it back following the backlash.
Are these people so ingrained in their own liberal Hollywood
bubble that they don't understand what average Americans in the
flyover states actually want. We don't want them to celebrate
and murder. I mean, what the hell is happening in Hollywood?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah? No, It's interesting that so many of them are
making this mistake, and not only a mistake, but I
mean just a deplorable choice to celebrate the death of
somebody who really was just disagreeing with them on big issues.
I will give, I will give credit to some of
(08:30):
the people out in Hollywood. I mean, they're not all
doing that. Jamie Lee Curtis has actually been surprisingly one
of the more prolific actors coming out and really getting
emotional over the death of Charlie Kirk, which is surprising her.
I'm not sure if it's a daughter or son, I
(08:50):
can't remember, but she has a trends child, so I
figured she would be, you know, not necessarily one of
the people celebrating, but wouldn't be this seemingly distraught over
the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which you know, people should
be concerned about it. It's it's a milestone thing that
happened in the country that hasn't happened in decades that
(09:13):
a prolific community organizer slash, you know, public figure was
assassinated for everyone to see on you know, with live video.
So it's a it's a really jarring experience, and you
can really tell a lot about how somebody reacts to it,
(09:35):
and somebody like Jimmy Kimmel steering into the hate and
steering into celebrating what's what's happened and lying about what
Kirk had said and stuff like that is is really
indicative of a lot of the way that some of
these folks think I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Lay something to heavy on you. Because you're a comedian,
you'll probably understand this.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's uh.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Back in the two thousands, I was working on a
different radio show up in Chicago, is called The Man
Cow Show, and one day Gilbert Godfrey came in and
did the show.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He was fresh off of a big scandal.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
He was making jokes about the Fukushima tragedy in Japan,
and he got fired by Aflac. Aflak was paying him
millions of dollars, to him tens of millions of dollars
so he could say aflac. And that was all he
was doing with his voice, just Gilbert Godfrey being Gilbert
god You didn't see him on the screen. He wasn't there.
It was just his voice getting millions of dollars to
(10:28):
make that sound. And then he got fired. It was
a big news story and everybody said, wow, Gilbert Godfrey,
this is controversial. Afflac doesn't want to be involved with
comedy anymore. It's a violation of his First Amendment. He
came in, he did the show, and he explained to
us he didn't get fired for making that joke. He
said he was getting paid too much money for a
(10:48):
job that was too easy, and they weren't getting any
returns off of it. They were looking for a reason
to fire him. The fact that he told a joke
about Fukushima was small potatoes. It wasn't the real reason why.
It was just the excuse. Do you think the same
thing's happening with Jimmy Kimmel and Colbert. These shows were
just not making money and the pendulum swinging in the
(11:09):
other directions. So taking it off the air at this
moment was popular because it took the heat off of
them and made it look like Trump was bad, when
in reality it was their show that was bad.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, I think that's probably a big part of it.
The bubble really popped on the late night comedy shows,
especially during the pandemic. Like you talked about how he
got rid of his how he got rid of the
announcer that worked for him. People saw how they were
(11:39):
acting during them, and I think that really turned off
a lot of people. Plus just the fact that, like
you said, a lot of people had already moved to streaming.
Even more people moved to streaming during and after the pandemic.
So I think they were, like you've implied that they
are trying to look at cost cutting, and when you
have shows that are bloated, I mean, and these shows
(12:01):
have sometimes fifteen twenty writers. They've got you know, huge sets,
dozens of people behind the scenes. So it's not just
the money that they're paying Kimmel, it's the money that
it costs to do all of that. Your guests, you're
putting them up in hotels. The overhead is amazing. And yeah,
(12:23):
I think that maybe they were just looking for a
while for an excuse to maybe cut some costs. Now,
like I said, there is a rumor that he might
come back in a couple of days, so it may
not be a complete firing. So you know, people might
be overreacting to people that think it's a free speech violation,
and on the other side of the aisle, people might
(12:45):
be overreacting thinking that, you know, hey, they've been they're
rid of Jimmy Kimmel. Now, well I'm hearing he might
come back.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I don't know, I mean, at a lower salary, with
less writers. What would be the point. I mean, his
show wasn't generating the ratings that Colbert was, and CBS
admitted they were hemorrhaging money on Colbert. Why keep a
show that's unpopular and not profitable. Who was it even for?
Who was watching the show? The executives at Disney.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
A lot of these shows are for the people that
are inside the loop, you know. Yeah, it's for the
people that For example, if you look at the show
that just won the Emmys, it's a show called The Studio.
It's one a ton of Emmys, and it's about Hollywood.
They're just naval gazers. They just want to be told,
(13:35):
you know, the things that they want to hear and
stuff like that. So in that sense, he's doing a
good job because he is telling those people what they
want to hear. You know that Charlie Kirk was evil
and da da da dah. But as you also pointed out,
the zeitgeist has shifted. It's the pendulum. It's swinging back.
(13:55):
It's swinging back very hard, and they can't cope with
the monster they created that is Cancel culture. And now
it's coming for some of them. And you know, we
told him this was going to happen to them eventually,
but they didn't want to listen.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, it's true, and is it cancel? Culture is a
consequence culture. I mean Kevin Hart was fired from hosting
the Oscars for a fifteen year old joke. This is
stuff Jimmy Kimmel told said earlier this week that he's
being held responsible for.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Right. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I just think it's basic consequences. Tim, we've gone along
on this segment. I'm grateful for you to your other point.
By the way, another show that did well at the
Emmys this year was a show called Adolescence, a show
about a little white boy in England who apparently went
out and murdered a little black.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Girl or something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And in reality, that movie, that TV show vividly described
a thing that really happened in England, but it involved
a little black boy doing it to a little white girl.
You know, liberals in Hollywood will just reinvent things. We
got to run. Follow Tim on Twitter and Instagram at
tim mathis Comedy.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
And as a matter of fact, I think, do we
have a clip? Can we play a clip?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
This big news just broke from Hollywood. Arnold Schwarzenegger's girlfriend
is frustrated that he apparently he still has not proposed
to her. On the bright side, he still hasn't impregnated
or made either said that's good. You know? Is this
a spoiled, pappered, narcissistic Hollywood brat or what?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Or what? All right?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It would be impossible to talk about Hollywood today without
talking about what is obviously the biggest story in both
politics and Hollywood at the moment. Yesterday, the late night
talk show host Jimmy Kimmel was indefinitely suspended from his
late night show, and of course, this happened on the
heels of Stephen Colbert being let go of the late
night show that David Letterman once founded.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
It's kind of obvious.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Considering both of these shows were taken off the air
so abruptly that probably at the end of the day
this was more than just politics.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
This was about money.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
If those guys were vastly popular, if they were hemorrhaging ratings,
if these guys were so profitable for the company that
they were going to lose billions of dollars by taking
it off the air, then they simply wouldn't have done that.
But they are taking it off the air because at
the end of the day, something that's controversial, something that's
a liability, and something that's not making a lot of
money just isn't worth keeping around.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
That's how any business works.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Earlier this week, after a whole day of TV news
coverage of the first legal hearing for the Charlie Kirk
Assassin that was filled with evidence and transcripts of text
messages and testimony from family members and friends about his
political beliefs, Jimmy Kimmel decided to go on TV and
just say exactly the opposite of what everybody now indisputably
(01:57):
knew to be true. That Charlie Kirk Assassin was a
left but Jimmy Kimmel didn't know that. Because Jimmy Kimmel
and his writers live in a bubble, they weren't sitting
around watching the news all day they were busy writing
jokes about why Trump is Hitler, and later that evening
on TV this happened get some new lows over the
weekend with the Magga Gang desperately trying to characterize this
(02:18):
kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one
of them, and anything other than one of them. You know,
as a late night talk show host back in the day,
in the twentieth century, it was very uncommon for a
late night comedian to talk about a school shooting, much
less do a week of coverage on it.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That would almost never happen.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You know, that's the sort of news story that Jay
Leno or Johnny Carson probably would have avoided. Even David
Letterman or Conan, who were considered to be a little
more controversial, probably wouldn't have done a show about bowling
for Columbine or you know, the Virginia Tech massacre. That
wouldn't have been a story they would have covered. Still,
Jimmy Kimmel couldn't help himself. You remember when he did
a monologue one time where he didn't tell a single joke.
(02:57):
He just cried about how getting rid of Obamacare was
a fascist thing for Donald Trump, to do is a
ten minute monologue about how he loved Obamacare. At some point,
late night talk shows stopped being about comedy and they
started being about politics. Stop trying to get a laughter
from the audience and just trying to get applause.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You got to wonder who is this stuff?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Even for the Babylon Bee, where they actually do comedy,
had the following headline last night. I thought this was brilliant.
The headline The Babylon Bee is outraged to learn Jimmy
Kimmel was fired just because he's a mega Republican. And
that's pretty amazing. And while you're all feeling bad for
Jimmy Kimmel or not feeling bad for Jimmy Kimmel, do
you know who Dicky Barrett is. He was the lead
(03:40):
singer of a ska band in the nineties called the
Mighty Mighty Bosstones. You might remember him from his cameo
appearance in the movie Clueless with Claire Danes. Well, he
was fired after twenty years of being the announcer on
Jimmy Kimmel Live because he didn't want to get the
COVID vaccine. All these statements from Jimmy Kimmel and the
media and Jim Tapper opining about why this thing got
(04:02):
canceled kind of seem irrelevant at the end of the
day if it wasn't profitable. But rather than me giving
you my take because you've already heard it, what if
we talk to an actual comedian. Tim Mathis is our
Hollywood News reporter. He's also one of the guys that
helped us found Operation Comedy Therapy so many years ago.
Now he runs a comedy club in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Tim,
I got to think people in the stand up comedy
(04:23):
world aren't crying any crocodile tears today for Jimmy Kimmel,
are they?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Uh? Well, I've seen a good amount of people post
about how it's an assault on free speech and stuff
like that. I mean, the people don't seem to understand
that you're hired and fired based on what you can
do for the company and how much liability you're bringing
to the company, Like you said, if it's not something
(04:50):
that's making you a lot of money, and in fact,
most likely it was losing them a lot of money,
just like Colbert was. I mean, they're probably looking for
a reason to Jennison. I am hearing that there are
rumors that he's only on a hiatus, that he's going
to come back in a few days. We'll see how
that goes. That'll be interesting. We'll see if maybe he
(05:12):
dials it down a little bit, at least on the
completely false information that he seems to like to trot
out there, because that's the kind of thing that the
government actually could say something about since it is a
broadcast it's one of the original Big three broadcast network.
So we'll see what happens if he does come back,
(05:34):
or if they do in fact go ahead and terminate
his contract.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Okay, So the controversy about the FCC license, even that's
theoretical because I don't think the FCC chairman actually threatened
to take the license away.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
But on that note, let's pretend hypothetically they did.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
How many people actually watch ABC on terrestrial TV with
an antenna, and how many people watch it with cable.
I got to think almost nobody's watching it in the
terrestial sense. Say we like the way, so some people
are listening to this radio show right now. Most people
watch it with a streaming service. They've got, you know,
a paramount plush or something like that. Whatever, it may
be that they're watching network TV shows at Peacock to
(06:13):
watch NBC. I don't even know what Disney. I have
no idea. What how do you even watch Jimmy Kimmel
with your computer? I have no idea. But isn't that
what most people are doing nowadays?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah? Most people are streaming. Like you talked about the
fact that most likely he's losing money on the show,
the ABC and turn Disney's losing money on the show.
So yeah, most people have switched to streaming. I don't
even know where to watch Jimmy Kimmell on streaming. I
guess now it's nowhere, But you know, that's that's what
(06:46):
happens sometimes.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's it. Huh.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
By the way, do you know anybody that was watching
Jimmy Kimmel in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, I don't either. I mean, I assume that the
demo is slight is pretty old for these shows, you know,
that's one of the big things, is that they're really
not getting any of the young audience. And of course
that's what you want if you're in the entertainment businesses.
You want to keep getting young younger viewers. But it
(07:20):
looks like Jimmy Kimmel has struck out.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You do gotta wonder does Hollywood not understand the pendulum
is swinging so hard in the opposite direction now, not
in spite of them, but because of them. Like America
looks at Jimmy Kimmel and he just seems smug. He's unpopular.
Nobody's tuning in anymore. Amanda Seafried, the actress, same thing, right,
She's calling Charlie Kirk hateful, and she's suggesting that he
(07:45):
invited his own assassination and that created controversy for her,
so now she's trying to walk it back following the backlash.
Are these people so ingrained in their own liberal Hollywood
bubble that they don't understand what average Americans in the
flyover states actually want. We don't want them to celebrate
and murder. I mean, what the hell is happening in Hollywood?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah? No, It's interesting that so many of them are
making this mistake, and not only a mistake, but I
mean just a deplorable choice to celebrate the death of
somebody who really was just disagreeing with them on big issues.
I will give, I will give credit to some of
(08:30):
the people out in Hollywood. I mean, they're not all
doing that. Jamie Lee Curtis has actually been surprisingly one
of the more prolific actors coming out and really getting
emotional over the death of Charlie Kirk, which is surprising her.
I'm not sure if it's a daughter or son, I
(08:50):
can't remember, but she has a trends child, so I
figured she would be, you know, not necessarily one of
the people celebrating, but wouldn't be this seemingly distraught over
the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which you know, people should
be concerned about it. It's it's a milestone thing that
happened in the country that hasn't happened in decades that
(09:13):
a prolific community organizer slash, you know, public figure was
assassinated for everyone to see on you know, with live video.
So it's a it's a really jarring experience, and you
can really tell a lot about how somebody reacts to it,
(09:35):
and somebody like Jimmy Kimmel steering into the hate and
steering into celebrating what's what's happened and lying about what
Kirk had said and stuff like that is is really
indicative of a lot of the way that some of
these folks think I'm gonna.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Lay something to heavy on you. Because you're a comedian,
you'll probably understand this.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's uh.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Back in the two thousands, I was working on a
different radio show up in Chicago, is called The Man
Cow Show, and one day Gilbert Godfrey came in and
did the show.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
He was fresh off of a big scandal.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
He was making jokes about the Fukushima tragedy in Japan,
and he got fired by Aflac. Aflak was paying him
millions of dollars, to him tens of millions of dollars
so he could say aflac. And that was all he
was doing with his voice, just Gilbert Godfrey being Gilbert
god You didn't see him on the screen. He wasn't there.
It was just his voice getting millions of dollars to
(10:28):
make that sound. And then he got fired. It was
a big news story and everybody said, wow, Gilbert Godfrey,
this is controversial. Afflac doesn't want to be involved with
comedy anymore. It's a violation of his First Amendment. He
came in, he did the show, and he explained to
us he didn't get fired for making that joke. He
said he was getting paid too much money for a
(10:48):
job that was too easy, and they weren't getting any
returns off of it. They were looking for a reason
to fire him. The fact that he told a joke
about Fukushima was small potatoes. It wasn't the real reason why.
It was just the excuse. Do you think the same
thing's happening with Jimmy Kimmel and Colbert. These shows were
just not making money and the pendulum swinging in the
(11:09):
other directions. So taking it off the air at this
moment was popular because it took the heat off of
them and made it look like Trump was bad, when
in reality it was their show that was bad.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, I think that's probably a big part of it.
The bubble really popped on the late night comedy shows,
especially during the pandemic. Like you talked about how he
got rid of his how he got rid of the
announcer that worked for him. People saw how they were
(11:39):
acting during them, and I think that really turned off
a lot of people. Plus just the fact that, like
you said, a lot of people had already moved to streaming.
Even more people moved to streaming during and after the pandemic.
So I think they were, like you've implied that they
are trying to look at cost cutting, and when you
have shows that are bloated, I mean, and these shows
(12:01):
have sometimes fifteen twenty writers. They've got you know, huge sets,
dozens of people behind the scenes. So it's not just
the money that they're paying Kimmel, it's the money that
it costs to do all of that. Your guests, you're
putting them up in hotels. The overhead is amazing. And yeah,
(12:23):
I think that maybe they were just looking for a
while for an excuse to maybe cut some costs. Now,
like I said, there is a rumor that he might
come back in a couple of days, so it may
not be a complete firing. So you know, people might
be overreacting to people that think it's a free speech violation,
and on the other side of the aisle, people might
(12:45):
be overreacting thinking that, you know, hey, they've been they're
rid of Jimmy Kimmel. Now, well I'm hearing he might
come back.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I don't know, I mean, at a lower salary, with
less writers. What would be the point. I mean, his
show wasn't generating the ratings that Colbert was, and CBS
admitted they were hemorrhaging money on Colbert. Why keep a
show that's unpopular and not profitable. Who was it even for?
Who was watching the show? The executives at Disney.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
A lot of these shows are for the people that
are inside the loop, you know. Yeah, it's for the
people that For example, if you look at the show
that just won the Emmys, it's a show called The Studio.
It's one a ton of Emmys, and it's about Hollywood.
They're just naval gazers. They just want to be told,
(13:35):
you know, the things that they want to hear and
stuff like that. So in that sense, he's doing a
good job because he is telling those people what they
want to hear. You know that Charlie Kirk was evil
and da da da dah. But as you also pointed out,
the zeitgeist has shifted. It's the pendulum. It's swinging back.
(13:55):
It's swinging back very hard, and they can't cope with
the monster they created that is Cancel culture. And now
it's coming for some of them. And you know, we
told him this was going to happen to them eventually,
but they didn't want to listen.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, it's true, and is it cancel? Culture is a
consequence culture. I mean Kevin Hart was fired from hosting
the Oscars for a fifteen year old joke. This is
stuff Jimmy Kimmel told said earlier this week that he's
being held responsible for.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Right. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I just think it's basic consequences. Tim, we've gone along
on this segment. I'm grateful for you to your other point.
By the way, another show that did well at the
Emmys this year was a show called Adolescence, a show
about a little white boy in England who apparently went
out and murdered a little black.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Girl or something like that.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
And in reality, that movie, that TV show vividly described
a thing that really happened in England, but it involved
a little black boy doing it to a little white girl.
You know, liberals in Hollywood will just reinvent things. We
got to run. Follow Tim on Twitter and Instagram at
tim mathis Comedy.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I love you all.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Tomorrow and Saturday I will be a the Texas Youth Summit.
The lineup is just incredible. Steve Bannon, Governor Abbott, Ted Cruz,
Wesley Hunt. A lot of people are going to be
there join us. It's free for college kids in high
school kids. If adults want to go, go to Texas
Youth Summit dot com. I love you all. We'll be
back bright and early tomorrow morning for more of what
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