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November 20, 2025 17 mins
Willie talks with Ohio state Senator Steve Huffman about the federal government banning THC drinks and products contrary to Ohio law.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Bill cunning in the Great America. Welcome this Thursday afternoon
in the tri State. Who's going to start for the
Bengals on Sunday? Tony Benner tells me it's going to
be Joe Burrow and not Joe Flacco. We'll see if
Tony's right or not, because it appears Burrow may play
on Sunday. We'll see what happens against the Patriots. But
until then, I know there's been a lot of difficulties

(00:29):
and uncertainties about hemp and fuge drinks, and marijuana and
so much more CBD. Many of my friends use CBD
to sleep at night. A lot of them drink hemp
and fuge drinks. Some businesses are built upon that fact.
But the Feds just passed the law kind of eliminating
the whole industry within a year. Then each state are
acting separately and joining you. And I now is the
man in charge in Columbus, Senator Steve Huffman, who was

(00:52):
up this morning till one or two o'clock in the
morning working on the bill. And I guess there's been
a little bit of an agreement what to do with this.
And Senator Steve Huffman Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
But before we get started, I always like to talk
about American veterans, and yesterday in the Capitol, you and
others honored a World War Two veteran at the Battle
of the Bulge. Can you briefly give me his name

(01:13):
and why he was honored?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Jim Arisman from Farmersville in Montgomery County for his one
hundredth birthday. He'll be one hundred on Thanksgiving Day. Just
a great honorable man and you know, a great generation.
He told me of the story. You know, he was
injured and got the Purple Heart and the Battle of
the Bulge and he was wounded and laid in a

(01:38):
foxhole for hours till he could be rescued, and just
a great, great American. It was my honor to have
him there in on his hunt of birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
And you know, Senator, that is the greatest generation to
be lying in a hole with temperatures below zero, wounded,
covered up with dirt and grime in order to maybe
save your life. And then to have the success of
the Battle of the Bulge because of the activities of
General Patton, but mainly the soldiers like Jim got it done,
and I'm not sure we have it in us to

(02:10):
do what that generation did. That's a different issue. So,
first of all, the FEDS past the cr which city
essentially that HEMP and fused businesses have about to one
year to resolve their inventory to sell, and they kind
of pushed it off to the states a little bit.
I understand from our two conversations. There was media reports
yesterday the House and the Senate had reached an agreement,

(02:32):
which wasn't the case. But then there was a kind
of an agreement this morning at one o'clock. Can you
tell the American people as we sit here about twelve
ten pm on Thursday afternoon, what is the status the
HEMP and CBD in the state of Ohio at this point.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, you know, earlier this year, we each had our bill.
We didn't agree to it, so we decided to go
to conference committee. I was chair of the Conference committee,
and you know, the Senate adjourned for the night, and
then I was about to walk out the door and
they said, hold on, I think we got a deal.
And that was about nine thirty, and I called the

(03:10):
committee of eleven thirty and we finished about twelve fifteen.
We had the agreement. The House went to the floor
right after that and voted. They were done about one fifteen,
one thirty, and the Senate doesn't have another session for
a couple of weeks. But I am sure that the

(03:32):
Senate will honor our agreement and vote to pass the
exact same thing that the House did last night.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Hie.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
So as of one thirty am this morning, about nine
ten hours ago, the deal is struck. But you and
the Senate were out of session. You're going to come
back into session and you're telling me the deal you're
about to announce is going to be. It's going to
pass in about two weeks. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I believe so the governor will have to sign it
to have this ability to line item veto because there's
some money into it.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
But I am sure that.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
We have the votes in the Senate to pass it
to Mullana the agreement that we have at the House.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
So Tony Benner wants to know what is the deal?
Am I write down the deal? Give me one, two, three,
and four. What's the deal?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well, there was one was on marijuana. We cleaned up
some things. They'll still be allowed to have twelve plants,
but we cleaned some things up from issue too was
the first part. The second part was in ninety days
after the the bill as signed, all gummies edibles will
be illegal in the state of Ohio. And that is

(04:41):
something that you know that and you've talked to Mike d.
Whine about kids are getting that, So that will all
be illegal. We will continue to allow beverages at five milligrams,
which is a reasonable amount.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
For this year.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
And if the Feds come back and say, you know,
you're allowed to keep beverages and do that, we have
an agreement with the House and Senate that we will
have discussions and make proper regulations with proper restrictions and
proper taxation in the future. But didn't have time to
get that last, but you can continue to get those

(05:18):
and we will allow places like ryan Geist in Cincinnati
if you can manufacture at a higherli level, but you
got to sell that stuff out of state if other
states allow it.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
So that the major part is ninety days after the
bill is signed, which is two to three weeks from now,
all gummies and edibles in the state of high will
be illegal. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yes, if they have anything over zero point four milligrams
which is very little and not intoxicating.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
If it's above that, it's illegal.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
So the gummies below that are legal because they're not intoxicating.
Of course, the reason you take them is because they're intoxicating.
You don't take because they're not intoxicating. He's taken because
they're intoxicating. And so essentially, by having a very low
level of THC, the purpose of the gummies and edibles
is to have intoxicating effect or some effect, but the

(06:12):
level will be so low wellot and essentially, unless you
want to manufacture below point oh four, there will be
no gummies or edibles legal in Ohio beginning in about
ninety or so days.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
There are some yes, there are some people that like
the low level THHC because it also has the CBD
xtra dials and other things in there that helps them
sleep and in things like that. And you know, another
big thing that was in this bill is you know
there's a ten percent tax and thirty six percent of

(06:46):
that will go back to the locals of the jurisdictions
where the dispensaries are. The ballot initiative did not have
a way for the state to actually give you give
them the money, and we did that in this bill.
So we've we've honored you know, the ballot initiae of
wording that says you'll get thirty six percent of that

(07:07):
ten percent. And that's going to make a lot of places,
especially places where there's a bunch of dispensaries like the
City of Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
And I And it'll make the City of Cincinnati happy.
They'll get more money. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
That is is wherever the dispensary is, that jurisdictions will
get there thirty six percent of the ten percent tax.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Now, I'm not going to this next point, which is
beverages have to have a very low, very low hemp drinks.
Beverages have to have a very low THC Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Very low?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
That is five milligramts for twelve ounces. You know, I've
seen these things around the country where you know, a
twelve ounce can, I think to me and use one drink. Well,
they'll they'll have twelve lines at can and say each
line is a serving, so and that's twelve ounce.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Can they consider.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Twelve servings at five milligrams? That's sixty milligrams? Right? You
wouldn't be able to stand up at sixty milligrams, so
five milligrams to me, it's probably parallel to a twelve
ounce spear.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
So Ryan guys fifty West right now are selling these
Hampton Feud beverages much above five milligrams, correct, A lot
more than that is currently being sold.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Correct. I don't know how much what they are. They
can do that now.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I know that other states allow for tens, fifteens, and twenties,
so I can't say what they're doing now, but my
understanding is probably at least tennis is also a popular
drink in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
So, and what's the purpose of the litigation of this legislation?
What's the purpose Because some of the Ryan geist in
the fifty West are not happy about government getting involved.
They want the consumer to decide what to do. So
what's the argument that needs to be limited to such
a low amount that you might you don't get a buzz.
The idea, I think is to get a buzz. I

(09:05):
think that's the purpose. I think the purpose of drinking
alcohol is to get a buzz. I think the purpose
of these hemp infused drinks is take the place of
the buzz caused by alcohol. And so, what is the
governmental interest in having shall I say little or no
buzz as opposed a more buzz.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I would say that.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
One the five metogram is probably equal to one twelve
ounce bud lock.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
So you're right.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
With one of them, you are not going to get
a buzz, but three four you will get a buzz.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
And so it's a.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Reasonable you know, maybe one or two you're feeling good,
and maybe that's the objective of the consumer, but it'll
it'll still get you impaired if you drink too much
of it.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
All right, Now, as far as Delta eight, I know
the governor and you were concerned about teenage boys and
girls going into a convenience store buying Delta eight products.
What's the status of that as far as the age
limit and the amount.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
In ninety days, it'll be totally illegal for adults, younger people,
anybody if it's above that small amount. So we're going
to get rid of all of it. You can still
get some lotions and creams that people put on for
their arthritis, but essentially we'll do away with it because

(10:28):
it's a lot of it's stuff that comes from China
and kids have been able to get it for a
while and advertise to them and in this bill, it'll
cut out all advertising to children. It has to be
approved by the Marijuana Commission before they could do anything.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
So a teenage boy or girl going in the convenience
store to buy Delta eight and ninety days will be illegal,
that's correct, And you have to be twenty is it
twenty one?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Is that the age.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Twenty one for the beverages and it can only be
sold at current places that have a liquor license or
a bar that has a liquor license, the only place
you'll be able to get it.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Senator Steve Huffin, what's the interaction now of the federal legislation?
There's another provision this from our conversation this morning about
that if the Feds I don't know, but Senator Mitch
McConnell of Kentucky is all exercised along with Ryan Paul
about the hemp farmers are going to be hit by
the bill in Washington which they basically eliminate all of it.

(11:30):
And so, what's the interaction between your bill, which is
going to become long about ninety days or so, as
opposed to the federal piece of legislation.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Hard bill?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Pretty much marrors it. We increase the timeline on the
gummies and edibles. But there's many people in Columbus, in
the industry in Washington believes that the federal government in
the next year will come back and say, hold on,
here's the regulations for you know, the limits on THHC

(12:02):
and hemp in beverages and other things, and then the
states would be able to regulate it however they want
with those guidelines, is what people think. Some states will
just say nope, I don't want any of it. Other
states will say, you know, we'll take even more restrictions
or you know, or follow the federal law.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And so if the Feds change it, then you and
Columbus will change it. Also, is that correct?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
The House in the sent has an agreement that we
will do our best to come to an agreement to
to most likely preserve only the best. We only have
an agreement to try to preserve long term the beverages
and not the other stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
And beverages at a very low level. Now, Thirdly, I'm
I have a belief that marijuana is in like thirty
six or thirty seven states. The selling, manufacturing, the grow,
the processing of marijuana is all over the country. It's
also true that the FEDS consider marijuana to be a
Schedule one. The FEDS consider it to be similar to

(13:10):
cocaine or methamphetamine, and there seems to be no appetite
in Washington to make that a Schedule three because the
Trumpster are many Republicans don't think Many Republicans don't think
marijuana should be grown anyway or used by anybodies. So,
assuming that marijuana federally is a Schedule one narcotic which

(13:31):
carries severe penalties, is it an anomaly in the law
that Ohio in many other states permit the growing, processing,
and sell selling of marijuana to millions of people even
though it's against federal law. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
It's a joke. It's a failure of the federal government.
It's you know, don't look behind the curtain and do anything,
and we're going to let you do that, but we
won't let you do banking because as if that's the
federal we will let you cross.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
It's illegal to cross the state.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Lines from Ohio and marijuana to Michigan marijuana. And it's stupid.
They need to come with a Scheduled three drug. And
the other thing it does is medical research. Let's put
it out there and let places like a High State
and you see do research and say this is good
and it helps migraines, it helps post traumatic stress, or

(14:27):
it doesn't. But we can't do that research as long
as it's a scheduled one drug and thirty six or
whatever states have it. If we have good regulations but
be able to do research and have some other framework
would certainly help chimes.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
We sit here Thursday afternoon. A Kentucky in that drives
from Boone County to Hamlety County to buy marijuana here
and then take it back to Boone County is committing
a federal criminal offense.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
That is correct.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
And all these marijuana farmers in OHI and processors that's
growing marijuana, processing marijuana, and selling marijuana are all committing
federal criminal offenses.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
That is correct too.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
So why don't the Feds enforce it?

Speaker 3 (15:15):
One might ask.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
You know, this is multiple administrations for years that have
that that haven't and that's their policy. It's it's just
they they should do something about it, and they won't.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I've talked to Euston, I've talked to Senator Speaker of
the House. Uh, there's no appetite to take the issue
on it all because they're saying, Okay, we got there,
we got on the books. These federal criminal statutes about
marijuana use similar to growing poppy seeds, are similar to
manufacturing methamphetamine. Marijuana's in the same category as in the
other ones. But wink, wink, nod, nod, we're not going

(15:54):
to force federal criminal statutes, which I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, you know, I don't understand that. But you know,
we were both against the ballot initiative and twenty three
and it happened, and here it is. But we've also
talked about the good part of it. We took a
you know, it's a billion dollar the recreation will be
a billion dollar industry in twenty twenty five in just
the state of Ohio. We took a billion dollars away

(16:21):
from drug dealers, yep, a billion dollars, and we had
including one hundred or one hundred million that we taxed
that we can put the good use to treat drug
addiction and police enforcement and other things like that. So
there was some good out of the ballot initiatives we've

(16:42):
talked about before, but the federal government could probably get
in on some of that tax stuff, but they have
chose not to.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Multiple Republican Democrats, they don't want to touch it. And
so those the State of ohiores participating in an illegal
criminal syndicate for the selling of illegal drugs federally and
benefiting from it. And I'm going, well, something's wrong here.
All right, Well, Senator Steve Hoffman, I know you've been
working hard at this. At one am, there was no
deal this morning, at one thirty, there was a deal

(17:12):
in ninety days. All this is going to become effective
once the governor signs it. We'll see what happens down
the road. And Senator have a great Thanksgiving with their family,
and God bless you and God bless America. Senator, thank
you very.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Much, you take care, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
God bless you all. Let's continue with more unbelievable and
the Feds don't touch it. But it's illegal, but the
state of Ohio, thirty six other states benefit from it.
And if you drive from Kentucky to Ohio, Ohio to
Michigan back and forth, you're transporting a schedule one narcotic
across state lines. Twenty years in jail. But we're not
going to enforce it. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred

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