November 21, 2025 • 17 mins
Why aren't more high school games played at pro stadiums? Rep Adam Matthews is introducing legislation that would require professional stadiums who took public money to build the stadiums to open them up for other uses. He discusses the bill with Scott.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You want to be an American idiots.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The weekend is here.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
It is a massive sports weekend in Cincinnati. He doesn't
get any bigger than this. You have, of course, well,
Joe Burrow play or not play that debate. On Sunday
you have UC BYU feeling like for all the marbles
with the national Fox broadcast in town at Nippert Stadium.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We're gonna look good there.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
We've got UC and Inner Miami in the next round
of the MLS playoffs at TQL Stadium, winner take all,
and tonight you've got Elder Saint X. And it was
interesting as a Bengal fan watching and watching this develop
going well, they want to move it to pay cour,
which made a lot of sense, you know, as a Mason,
I to look at that.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Go okay, it's a few thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hopefully the Ohio State High School Athletic Association gives them,
gives them a little bit of money back for their investment.
But yeah, seven thousand tickets. The demand is high. I
don't know how many they've sold at this point. I
forgot to check, but certainly more than seven thousand. And
they're gonna this pay Court tonight Okay, great, awesome. I
was surprised how quickly this came together. But it brings
up a bigger question, and that is didn't we, the
(01:02):
taxpayers of Hamilton County pay for the stage? So why
can't we use that more often?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
On?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That is a representative state Rep. Adam Matthews, who is
in control and rules with an iron fist from Lebanon
to South Lebanon to Mason.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Adam Matthews, welcome back. How are you brother?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Always a pleasure to be here. Thank you so much
for having me on.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Thanks again. So let's jump into this. This is interesting
what this happened. You probably heard about it, and do
you have any affiliation with Saint X or Elder You
got skin in the game there.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I did. Actually, one of my core memories I was
winning against Cole Rain in the playoffs just like this
in two thousand and five. We went to overtime and
beat Coleraine twelve to nine in Paul and then Paul
Brown Stadium, and it was incredible. Yeah, that was on
the way to a state championship.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Let's face it, many of these young men and some
may go to play collegiately. For sure, NFL is a
pipe dream. But then from most of the athletes out there,
this will be a high point of their athletic career.
But imagine, I mean, how awesome is that. Getting to
play on an actual NFL turf has got to be
and just you know, the locker rooms and everything, the
whole experience is is going to be something to remember
(02:14):
the rest of their lives.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's incredible and I'm so excited for these young gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, then you got involved legislatively the Bengals, and you know,
it's always in vogue to poke fun at the Bengals
and question their motives and operations and maybe spendthrift ways
in some cases. But you gotta also give congratulations too.
And it certainly isn't how quickly the franchise leaned into
hosting this game, and typically the Bengals don't do anything quickly.
(02:43):
They did this in like less than twenty four hours,
and also with the county, and so credit certainly is
due there. But what do you want to do legislatively?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, I will act that. Thank you so much to
the Bengals from the team. Thank you that those in
the local county commission that they this happened as well.
And this should be a model of what goes forward
if we're going to have tax payer step off and
fund these very large investments you have up at the Browns,
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they had asked for one hundreds of millions of dollars.
And even here in Mason we've seen something similar of
the Cincinnati Open had just been used for one week.
It became a two week tournament and has been doing
really well. But it's now also back in October host
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of the girl State Finals, and it's now open for
more tournaments. It's going to be open to the community
for a pro shop, for the court, for things like that.
And if we're going to have these huge professional sports venues,
there should be a way for that to come at
functional costs to the community for these types of venues.
(04:00):
Are looking at legislation on making sure that that can
happen and be fair to the owners. You don't want
to say it's a football situation, and you know, wild
card weekend lines up obviously, if the Dingles are hosting,
you can't have a high school game the night before.
But if it works out that it's Friday night, things
are fine. You can have a game on Sunday. Wonderful
(04:20):
let's let's have that happen, and we're going to work
with the USSAA, work with the professional organizations and see
what we can do.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But you also have the contracts that are would this
I don't know a contract law, I'm not an attorney.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
How would that work?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
If you have a contract that says, hey, you can
only have so many dates, whatever it might be, how
does this override that?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So we are looking at making legislation that anything going forward.
Anytime that they come with a handout asking for hey,
we need taxpayer subsidies to build a new stadium or
renovate a new stadium. If you're not using it for
your professional purpose, there's other types of reasonable uses out
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to the community should be part of that conversation, and it.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Would be at market rate obviously, or whatever that looks like.
Obviously the Bengals aren't charging market rate for the stand
because it's too high school enterprises.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
They could never afford that.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So how do these how do you do you scale
that legislatively?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Then? Right, so we would look and see if there's
a way to smooth it out over because I'm grateful
to the Bengals. I think the tickets are fifteen dollars
for tonight and to cover you know, there's still people
working the gate, there's still people working concessions. It's more
than just turning the locks off for the day and
(05:39):
letting people come in. And so we need to make
sure that things are balanced. And what we're going to
start as a negotiation place is, uh, they get not
market rates for the use of the venue, but what
it would have been had it been at Mason High School.
And see can it be within twenty percent of what
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it would have than at Mason High School? And see
if either the state subsidizes on the front end or
if that's part of the consideration when we are deciding
whether or not protect their dollars to go into the
renovation or the expansion.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Okay, got it.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So this is just a professional stadiums, not not amateur
stadium paid public amateur stadiums like the Cleveland Brown Stadium.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Correct, exactly, like the Cleveland Brown Stadium.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Big oh, yeah, you don't want to fund the amateur
teams up in Cleveland. So it's a different thing. And
I'm trying to think there's there's a lot of stadium
you think. Okay, well, Cincinnati, Columbus Cleveland, but you know Dayton, Toledo,
Youngstown they have I don't know how much public money
are those facilities, but that's a lot, right.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
There's there's conversations all over there I know of. I
think right across the border in Butler County they're looking
at a semi professional or amage or minor league hockey facility.
That would be great for the community as well. So
anything that we can do to build those types of
(07:06):
Friday night lights or those types of touch points for
the community to come rather than just the using taxpayer
dollars for stadiums where the cheap seats are over one
hundred and.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Some dollars, seems like, you know, it'd have to be
a big rivalry game, but getting with all the leagues
in Cincinnati, you sell everything else. Is to line up
a marquee game every Friday where the Bengals aren't playing,
and do that and do it on the regular I
think that'd be amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It would be really neat. And you see both the
teams playing tonight and you so this the ticket sold
out in forty two minutes while the kids were still
in class. And there are two all boys schools and
each Friday they sell out their ten thousand stadiums. You
knew that there was going to be something big.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, and you know the social opportunity you could get
a Friday night passed me on, be a season ticket
holder if you want to and see all the high
school games.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'm sure that would appeal to some folks. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
The side of this thing is the money factor, because
money's always a concern. Representative Adam Matthews. You know some
of these you may not get twenty thousand there like
we're going to get tonight. But if you got ten
thous is that enough to offset the costs of keeping
the lights on and keeping the stadium open?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And if not, isn't that back on the taxpayers? Does
that make sense? Right?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So you'd have to look at that balance to make
sure that the money makes sense because not just the
lights on, make sure that the harm of the field,
make sure that the workers are there, and it will
have to make some tod of balance, which is why
we're work on this legislation with say, with the pro
stadiums and with the professional owners.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, there's got to be a balance.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Theres like you know, a couple of Division three schools
or schools where you're not going to get that much attendance.
You know, it doesn't make sense to have it at
paycre or something like that just to give kids the experiencing,
and that's a substantial cost to the already burden taxpayers
of Hamilton County. We don't want to go down that road.
Correct tonight should pay for it. I would think it
should be at ten dollars parking. I don't know what
(09:08):
tickets are, but ticket sales are awesome despite the weather
that's going to be extremely bad. But I don't think
kids care. But I think you know, if you're getting
to play at pay Corps and your kids out there
or you know, relatives saying I just a fan of
the school. I know a lot of elder and sex
grads are going to go tonight just because it's pay Corps,
Brian Combs being one of them. So that'd be kind
of fun. What's the timeline for getting this done.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
We just went through a marathon session to finish out
the House voting for twenty twenty five, so we will
be back with legislation in January February to get this
really working.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, good, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, taking some time off after I don't know what
just the what the hell just happened with the CBD thing.
I mean I followed closely, more closer than anyone, and
I still don't understand all the imaginations and levers and
trip wires and everything else that was set up, and
why how this thing got so sideways in such a
short period of time when it's coming to when it
comes to CBD, sash THHC and fuse beverages, it seems
(10:10):
to me like I don't there's not much difference beween
THHC and alcohol because you're drinking it for an effect.
I don't know why we have to get rid of one,
especially as populaters. Is that seems to be really anti business,
anti small business to me, and also anti choice.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And part of this the confusion, mean you said you're
afraid that the going sideways all at once was we
had had through the house something that would allow your
five milligrams ten milligram drinks, whether it's at Ryan Geist
or fifty West or elsewhere, to be bought on site
(10:45):
and taken home. And while it goes through the house,
conversations over to the Senate, and the Senate conversations. The
federal government made some changes that made a phase out
over the next year to get rid of these, and
so what we had to do in the Ohio state
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houses we can't go much further than the feds two
and so that is what the final product is is
matching what the federal government.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, the Fed. The Fed forcing your hands on
that because federal law. But at the same time, I
just there was no impetus for this, and you know,
the idea of you know, you're I know, you're around them,
but like Nancy Pelosi and you know, well, we got
to pass the bill to see what's in it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's it's more the same.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
As much as we talk as conservatives talk about changing
the government, that seems to be the same thing that hey,
we snuck this in here at the last minute. Trump
signed it in the law, and wait, what do we do.
We just eliminated it in industry. That's literally saving the
craft beer people in Ohio because fewer people are drinking
craft beer, more are drinking the THC beverage. It's clear
there's consumer demand for it. I don't think the public
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risk is any greater than alcohol, and clearly many Ohioans,
Kentucky Indians want the THC and fused beverages the way
they are. Do you think there's hope in the next
year that maybe we come up with a better a
better way to do this from the federal level.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think that there needs to be some transparency. I
know that you, as you mentioned, this was part of
a long late night negotiation on the federal government to
get it back open after the Democrats were not coming
to the table in the Senate and the government the
government needed to turn back on. So yeah, thick in
at the last minute. And uh, but as things continue,
(12:34):
and as you hear from the constituents like you or
like others, I do think that the federal government is
probably going to revisit this.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I would hope.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So they're going to have to final point something else
you just got through and I wanted to circle back around.
And I don't know much about. It's called the Patient
Protection Act, and this is your legislation. It targets high
risk medications, and that is drugs defined with at least
a five percent chance of severe at verse side effects
that could lead to death or infection or And this
has to do with mail order drugs.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Well, why this what's this?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Is this legislation about abortion pills basically or no, this medication.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Is about any type of medication where like you said
five percent, and we saw the terrible story out of
Washington State where a college student was getting antidepressive medications telehealth,
no no doctor oversight other than their telehealth, so they
never got checked on. When he complained to the organization
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that was prescribing these drugs, they're like, well, we'll just
up your dosage. And eventually he died by suicide. And
now there's a wrongful death claim in all of this.
And we have seen similar things. We just start We're
not even through picking up the pieces from the opiate epidemic,
which was similar. We've had other medications, and some opponents
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are are focused thing on abortion pills, and there are
some studies along this, but any type of medication, we
want to have a stated of care that if you're
playing a board game and you roll the dice, and
if if you're rolling the dice and you roll a three,
and that means you're going to have organ failure, septist
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or sent to the hospital with tim or Jane or infections,
that's pretty high odds. And this isn't banning any medication.
It just says before you get something that is one
out of twenty sending you to the hospital, you just
need to see a doctor before and then have a
doctor check on you afterwards.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, Okay, I see what you're saying there. But you know,
the claim though, is a what a five percent mortality rate?
That there aren't any drugs that have a five percent
mortality rate that would that would never forget through through trials.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Uh, there there have been, and sometimes we are we
see this afterwards where uh would you have an FDA trial?
It is where you have people taking the medication clinically
according to every single rule versus how people actually are
(15:11):
using it right, and then that that difference can get
to have this type of danger.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Well you can, I mean, you know, op, it's a
great example of that. You can become addicted, and we've
cracked on that and obviously, but I mean the thing
if you're talking about this is somehow a product liability thing.
Oh hi, we already have malpractice laws and state boards
and FDA oversight and all that stuff, and of course
litigation as well. Doesn't that balance things out?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So you have both on the front and the backside.
Just in medication, you do things that are that help
you and then stick some problem afterwards. This is a
standard of care to make sure that you're getting good
care on the front end. Malpractice is only after things
have already gone bad. Okay, So we are making sure
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that both you have a good dinner. This care. We
are bolstering the relationships between the patient and the doctor. Hey.
And then yeah, as you mentioned, malpractice if things go wrong,
but we're trying to avoid those things so wrong because
sometimes that money will not six oregan failure or death.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Gotcha? Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
The big question, of course, Rocky boyman texting me wants
to know if he can still get his ed medicine
uh in a in a brown bag.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Delivered to his house. So that is that in jeopardy. Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
H Adam Matthews a state representative. Always loved the town,
always love us spending time chatting. Thanks again, and good
luck with the UH. We'll call it the Elder Saint
X Legislation. UH to allow more young people to play
in stadiums like pay Corps and maybe Heritage Bank Center,
maybe t Q well, places like that would be awesome
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and great American Ballpark of course, all the best. Thanks again,
have a great holiday, you take care.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That's Adam Matthews on the show. Scott Sloan here on
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You want to be an American idiots.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The weekend is here.
Speaker 3 (00:03):
It is a massive sports weekend in Cincinnati. He doesn't
get any bigger than this. You have, of course, well,
Joe Burrow play or not play that debate. On Sunday
you have UC BYU feeling like for all the marbles
with the national Fox broadcast in town at Nippert Stadium.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We're gonna look good there.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
We've got UC and Inner Miami in the next round
of the MLS playoffs at TQL Stadium, winner take all,
and tonight you've got Elder Saint X. And it was
interesting as a Bengal fan watching and watching this develop
going well, they want to move it to pay cour,
which made a lot of sense, you know, as a Mason,
I to look at that.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Go okay, it's a few thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Hopefully the Ohio State High School Athletic Association gives them,
gives them a little bit of money back for their investment.
But yeah, seven thousand tickets. The demand is high. I
don't know how many they've sold at this point. I
forgot to check, but certainly more than seven thousand. And
they're gonna this pay Court tonight Okay, great, awesome. I
was surprised how quickly this came together. But it brings
up a bigger question, and that is didn't we, the
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taxpayers of Hamilton County pay for the stage? So why
can't we use that more often?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
On?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That is a representative state Rep. Adam Matthews, who is
in control and rules with an iron fist from Lebanon
to South Lebanon to Mason.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Adam Matthews, welcome back. How are you brother?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Always a pleasure to be here. Thank you so much
for having me on.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Thanks again. So let's jump into this. This is interesting
what this happened. You probably heard about it, and do
you have any affiliation with Saint X or Elder You
got skin in the game there.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I did. Actually, one of my core memories I was
winning against Cole Rain in the playoffs just like this
in two thousand and five. We went to overtime and
beat Coleraine twelve to nine in Paul and then Paul
Brown Stadium, and it was incredible. Yeah, that was on
the way to a state championship.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Let's face it, many of these young men and some
may go to play collegiately. For sure, NFL is a
pipe dream. But then from most of the athletes out there,
this will be a high point of their athletic career.
But imagine, I mean, how awesome is that. Getting to
play on an actual NFL turf has got to be
and just you know, the locker rooms and everything, the
whole experience is is going to be something to remember
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the rest of their lives.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It's incredible and I'm so excited for these young gentlemen.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, then you got involved legislatively the Bengals, and you know,
it's always in vogue to poke fun at the Bengals
and question their motives and operations and maybe spendthrift ways
in some cases. But you gotta also give congratulations too.
And it certainly isn't how quickly the franchise leaned into
hosting this game, and typically the Bengals don't do anything quickly.
(02:43):
They did this in like less than twenty four hours,
and also with the county, and so credit certainly is
due there. But what do you want to do legislatively?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, I will act that. Thank you so much to
the Bengals from the team. Thank you that those in
the local county commission that they this happened as well.
And this should be a model of what goes forward
if we're going to have tax payer step off and
fund these very large investments you have up at the Browns,
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they had asked for one hundreds of millions of dollars.
And even here in Mason we've seen something similar of
the Cincinnati Open had just been used for one week.
It became a two week tournament and has been doing
really well. But it's now also back in October host
(03:36):
of the girl State Finals, and it's now open for
more tournaments. It's going to be open to the community
for a pro shop, for the court, for things like that.
And if we're going to have these huge professional sports venues,
there should be a way for that to come at
functional costs to the community for these types of venues.
(04:00):
Are looking at legislation on making sure that that can
happen and be fair to the owners. You don't want
to say it's a football situation, and you know, wild
card weekend lines up obviously, if the Dingles are hosting,
you can't have a high school game the night before.
But if it works out that it's Friday night, things
are fine. You can have a game on Sunday. Wonderful
(04:20):
let's let's have that happen, and we're going to work
with the USSAA, work with the professional organizations and see
what we can do.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But you also have the contracts that are would this
I don't know a contract law, I'm not an attorney.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
How would that work?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
If you have a contract that says, hey, you can
only have so many dates, whatever it might be, how
does this override that?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So we are looking at making legislation that anything going forward.
Anytime that they come with a handout asking for hey,
we need taxpayer subsidies to build a new stadium or
renovate a new stadium. If you're not using it for
your professional purpose, there's other types of reasonable uses out
(05:04):
to the community should be part of that conversation, and it.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Would be at market rate obviously, or whatever that looks like.
Obviously the Bengals aren't charging market rate for the stand
because it's too high school enterprises.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
They could never afford that.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So how do these how do you do you scale
that legislatively?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Then? Right, so we would look and see if there's
a way to smooth it out over because I'm grateful
to the Bengals. I think the tickets are fifteen dollars
for tonight and to cover you know, there's still people
working the gate, there's still people working concessions. It's more
than just turning the locks off for the day and
(05:39):
letting people come in. And so we need to make
sure that things are balanced. And what we're going to
start as a negotiation place is, uh, they get not
market rates for the use of the venue, but what
it would have been had it been at Mason High School.
And see can it be within twenty percent of what
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it would have than at Mason High School? And see
if either the state subsidizes on the front end or
if that's part of the consideration when we are deciding
whether or not protect their dollars to go into the
renovation or the expansion.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Okay, got it.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So this is just a professional stadiums, not not amateur
stadium paid public amateur stadiums like the Cleveland Brown Stadium.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Correct, exactly, like the Cleveland Brown Stadium.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Big oh, yeah, you don't want to fund the amateur
teams up in Cleveland. So it's a different thing. And
I'm trying to think there's there's a lot of stadium
you think. Okay, well, Cincinnati, Columbus Cleveland, but you know Dayton, Toledo,
Youngstown they have I don't know how much public money
are those facilities, but that's a lot, right.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
There's there's conversations all over there I know of. I
think right across the border in Butler County they're looking
at a semi professional or amage or minor league hockey facility.
That would be great for the community as well. So
anything that we can do to build those types of
(07:06):
Friday night lights or those types of touch points for
the community to come rather than just the using taxpayer
dollars for stadiums where the cheap seats are over one
hundred and.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Some dollars, seems like, you know, it'd have to be
a big rivalry game, but getting with all the leagues
in Cincinnati, you sell everything else. Is to line up
a marquee game every Friday where the Bengals aren't playing,
and do that and do it on the regular I
think that'd be amazing.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
It would be really neat. And you see both the
teams playing tonight and you so this the ticket sold
out in forty two minutes while the kids were still
in class. And there are two all boys schools and
each Friday they sell out their ten thousand stadiums. You
knew that there was going to be something big.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, and you know the social opportunity you could get
a Friday night passed me on, be a season ticket
holder if you want to and see all the high
school games.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I'm sure that would appeal to some folks. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
The side of this thing is the money factor, because
money's always a concern. Representative Adam Matthews. You know some
of these you may not get twenty thousand there like
we're going to get tonight. But if you got ten
thous is that enough to offset the costs of keeping
the lights on and keeping the stadium open?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And if not, isn't that back on the taxpayers? Does
that make sense? Right?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So you'd have to look at that balance to make
sure that the money makes sense because not just the
lights on, make sure that the harm of the field,
make sure that the workers are there, and it will
have to make some tod of balance, which is why
we're work on this legislation with say, with the pro
stadiums and with the professional owners.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, there's got to be a balance.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Theres like you know, a couple of Division three schools
or schools where you're not going to get that much attendance.
You know, it doesn't make sense to have it at
paycre or something like that just to give kids the experiencing,
and that's a substantial cost to the already burden taxpayers
of Hamilton County. We don't want to go down that road.
Correct tonight should pay for it. I would think it
should be at ten dollars parking. I don't know what
(09:08):
tickets are, but ticket sales are awesome despite the weather
that's going to be extremely bad. But I don't think
kids care. But I think you know, if you're getting
to play at pay Corps and your kids out there
or you know, relatives saying I just a fan of
the school. I know a lot of elder and sex
grads are going to go tonight just because it's pay Corps,
Brian Combs being one of them. So that'd be kind
of fun. What's the timeline for getting this done.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
We just went through a marathon session to finish out
the House voting for twenty twenty five, so we will
be back with legislation in January February to get this
really working.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, good, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah, taking some time off after I don't know what
just the what the hell just happened with the CBD thing.
I mean I followed closely, more closer than anyone, and
I still don't understand all the imaginations and levers and
trip wires and everything else that was set up, and
why how this thing got so sideways in such a
short period of time when it's coming to when it
comes to CBD, sash THHC and fuse beverages, it seems
(10:10):
to me like I don't there's not much difference beween
THHC and alcohol because you're drinking it for an effect.
I don't know why we have to get rid of one,
especially as populaters. Is that seems to be really anti business,
anti small business to me, and also anti choice.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And part of this the confusion, mean you said you're
afraid that the going sideways all at once was we
had had through the house something that would allow your
five milligrams ten milligram drinks, whether it's at Ryan Geist
or fifty West or elsewhere, to be bought on site
(10:45):
and taken home. And while it goes through the house,
conversations over to the Senate, and the Senate conversations. The
federal government made some changes that made a phase out
over the next year to get rid of these, and
so what we had to do in the Ohio state
(11:06):
houses we can't go much further than the feds two
and so that is what the final product is is
matching what the federal government.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, the Fed. The Fed forcing your hands on
that because federal law. But at the same time, I
just there was no impetus for this, and you know,
the idea of you know, you're I know, you're around them,
but like Nancy Pelosi and you know, well, we got
to pass the bill to see what's in it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
It's it's more the same.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
As much as we talk as conservatives talk about changing
the government, that seems to be the same thing that hey,
we snuck this in here at the last minute. Trump
signed it in the law, and wait, what do we do.
We just eliminated it in industry. That's literally saving the
craft beer people in Ohio because fewer people are drinking
craft beer, more are drinking the THC beverage. It's clear
there's consumer demand for it. I don't think the public
(11:52):
risk is any greater than alcohol, and clearly many Ohioans,
Kentucky Indians want the THC and fused beverages the way
they are. Do you think there's hope in the next
year that maybe we come up with a better a
better way to do this from the federal level.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I think that there needs to be some transparency. I
know that you, as you mentioned, this was part of
a long late night negotiation on the federal government to
get it back open after the Democrats were not coming
to the table in the Senate and the government the
government needed to turn back on. So yeah, thick in
at the last minute. And uh, but as things continue,
(12:34):
and as you hear from the constituents like you or
like others, I do think that the federal government is
probably going to revisit this.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I would hope.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So they're going to have to final point something else
you just got through and I wanted to circle back around.
And I don't know much about. It's called the Patient
Protection Act, and this is your legislation. It targets high
risk medications, and that is drugs defined with at least
a five percent chance of severe at verse side effects
that could lead to death or infection or And this
has to do with mail order drugs.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Well, why this what's this?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Is this legislation about abortion pills basically or no, this medication.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Is about any type of medication where like you said
five percent, and we saw the terrible story out of
Washington State where a college student was getting antidepressive medications telehealth,
no no doctor oversight other than their telehealth, so they
never got checked on. When he complained to the organization
(13:32):
that was prescribing these drugs, they're like, well, we'll just
up your dosage. And eventually he died by suicide. And
now there's a wrongful death claim in all of this.
And we have seen similar things. We just start We're
not even through picking up the pieces from the opiate epidemic,
which was similar. We've had other medications, and some opponents
(13:59):
are are focused thing on abortion pills, and there are
some studies along this, but any type of medication, we
want to have a stated of care that if you're
playing a board game and you roll the dice, and
if if you're rolling the dice and you roll a three,
and that means you're going to have organ failure, septist
(14:19):
or sent to the hospital with tim or Jane or infections,
that's pretty high odds. And this isn't banning any medication.
It just says before you get something that is one
out of twenty sending you to the hospital, you just
need to see a doctor before and then have a
doctor check on you afterwards.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, Okay, I see what you're saying there. But you know,
the claim though, is a what a five percent mortality rate?
That there aren't any drugs that have a five percent
mortality rate that would that would never forget through through trials.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Uh, there there have been, and sometimes we are we
see this afterwards where uh would you have an FDA trial?
It is where you have people taking the medication clinically
according to every single rule versus how people actually are
(15:11):
using it right, and then that that difference can get
to have this type of danger.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Well you can, I mean, you know, op, it's a
great example of that. You can become addicted, and we've
cracked on that and obviously, but I mean the thing
if you're talking about this is somehow a product liability thing.
Oh hi, we already have malpractice laws and state boards
and FDA oversight and all that stuff, and of course
litigation as well. Doesn't that balance things out?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So you have both on the front and the backside.
Just in medication, you do things that are that help
you and then stick some problem afterwards. This is a
standard of care to make sure that you're getting good
care on the front end. Malpractice is only after things
have already gone bad. Okay, So we are making sure
(15:58):
that both you have a good dinner. This care. We
are bolstering the relationships between the patient and the doctor. Hey.
And then yeah, as you mentioned, malpractice if things go wrong,
but we're trying to avoid those things so wrong because
sometimes that money will not six oregan failure or death.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Gotcha? Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
The big question, of course, Rocky boyman texting me wants
to know if he can still get his ed medicine
uh in a in a brown bag.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Delivered to his house. So that is that in jeopardy. Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
H Adam Matthews a state representative. Always loved the town,
always love us spending time chatting. Thanks again, and good
luck with the UH. We'll call it the Elder Saint
X Legislation. UH to allow more young people to play
in stadiums like pay Corps and maybe Heritage Bank Center,
maybe t Q well, places like that would be awesome
(16:56):
and great American Ballpark of course, all the best. Thanks again,
have a great holiday, you take care.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
That's Adam Matthews on the show. Scott Sloan here on
the Big One seven hundred WLW. And when we return
it is the weekend. Ally's here a little Thanksgiving lineup
for you if you're like her, and maybe you know
you don't have family around you just want to get
away from things to do, especially for as you know,
the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, big bar night. She's got your covered.
(17:23):
Next Sloane. He rolls on after this on seven hundred
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