Eddie & Rocky -- 1/7/26

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's our motto here on the Eddie and Rocky Show.
Keep your feet on the ground, rock and keep reaching
for those stars, my friend.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Every single day, that's what we do. And we don't
even get out of the atmosphere, but we try.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
We could be reaching for more taxes. Reach wallet, yeah, reaching.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Into your wallet and get ready to pay the man.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
So look, I mean violence in downtown has been a
big issue, you know, certainly last year and then most
recently on New Year's Day, that eleven year old girl
was shot at that playground on the West End. So
of course people want to know what's what's going to
be done. The mayor, by the way, was elected, and
I think the same day he was elected, came out

(00:46):
and said that they're gonna have to raise the income
tax in the city.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Now that I don't believe was.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Anywhere mentioned in his uh in the lead up to
the election, right, wasn't a part of his platform, But
day one it gets announced. Now, currently folks who live
in the city of Cincinnati are taxed to the tune
of one point eight percent, and it sounds like that
is rising.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Well, let's talk to a fellow who can speak to it.
Arguing friend Steve Good and Steve welcome back to the program.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Hey, good afternoon, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Good?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
So Steve, now look it, and you're being a former
council person, would more boots on the ground as far
as cobs being downtown help with all this? What do
they do? And where does this money? Where would this
money be appropriated? I guess is the first question.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Well, yeah, that's the big question. So I mean, look,
we have a relatively decent earning tax compared to you know,
we're at one point eight percent of all income and
not just for city resident, anyone that works in the
city pays it. So that's one of the things that's
really tough here. So if you live in Green Township,
or if you live in Madeira but you work downtown,

(01:57):
have an office downtown, you're paying that one point eight percent.
And for years people have been saying at city Hall, look,
Columbus and Cleveland, you know they charged two point five
They get away with it, So we quote have some space.
I think that gives up a real competitive advantage that
we have here. But what the mayor seemed to be
saying that there's an inauguration yesterday was he was linking

(02:19):
this increase to public safety spending, and we absolutely need
more boots on the ground. We need more police officers.
We're short of a compliment that was set back in
two thousand and five. It's an entirely different city now,
it's a bigger city. We have more attractions, we have
a different neighborhoods, including over the Rhine in downtown, function

(02:40):
in a completely different way than they did then. So
we have to rethink policing and that's going to require
more officers. But I was also troubled by something he
said during his speech. He said public safety and poverty
reduction efforts that get at crime. So it felt like
we were getting into mayor Montdami territory very quickly in

(03:03):
terms of additional spending boondoggles which we've seen already from
this administration, like medical debt relief and other things that
are sort of designed to get at poverty in some way,
but seem to have had no impact whatsoever on the
shootings downtown and over the Rhine and in the West End,
where we've seen some of the most just horrific shootings,
particularly shooting involving very young people, both as shooters and

(03:26):
as victims. So look, if they were talking about raising
taxes really to actually really redo and rethink how we
do policing in this city, that's a conversation a lot
of us, as city residents, would be willing to have.
But I don't really think that's what's being discussed here.
I think talking about public safety and policing is sort

(03:46):
of a fig leaf for what looks to be just
more programs spending, and we've already got too much of that.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Now.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
See, let me ask you this, because I've heard both,
But is it the fact that like we don't have
the money to hire more officers or from cops that
that I've talked to, there's a reluctant to one of
our reluctance to want to be a cop because you
know you're not supported, right, you know that from a
crime prevention justice standpoint, you're not supported. You're not supported

(04:17):
with the judges that are in place, you're not supported
by the mayor. So is it purely a lack of
funding and if we get more money, then all of
a sudden there's gonna be all these officers and that's
going to bring crime down?

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Or is it even going to have the effect.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
We wanted to well, it's it's complicated. I think the
answer is both. I mean, I know that a lot
of bigger cities have had issues with recruitment post kind
of the George Floyd period. I mean, there was a
period where a lot of politicians, including our mayor when
he first ran for mayor, you know, he ran an
ad or put out a piece of mail, but I

(04:51):
still have here where he was openly critical of police
officers and basically saying I'm going to stop racial profiling
and things of that nature. And nobody appears a racial
pro filing. I think that it is in the right mind.
But that's something that you know that Cincinnati has been
very aggressive about dealing with for almost thirty years now,
and there haven't been any serious allegations about that in
some time. So you know, there was an effort kind

(05:14):
of post George Floyd, I think, both in the justice
system and at city hall to really kind of blame
police officers for what happened. That narrative is still very
very much alive at the courthouse and at city Hall,
and it is a morale killer. But that said, I mean,
we also know that we our population has grown significantly

(05:36):
the number of non city residents who are downtown on
the weekends, particularly for concerts and baseball games, you know,
the soccer stadium, et cetera. We know there were times
when we have upwards of four to five hundred thousand
people downtown on any given Friday or Saturday night, and
between there over the Rhine and in the West End
where the soccer stadium is. We need more officers to

(05:56):
meaningfully police that. So it's a culture problem, and it's
money problem, and it's an administrative problem too. We also
have talk about a morale killer. We sort of have
two police chiefs right now. I mean Chief TG is
still technically the chief, even though she's been suspended since August. Well,
they continue this, you know, orwellian investigation to find out

(06:21):
what she did wrong after she was suspended. So you know,
these are all morale killers. There is still just this this.
You know, there's too much politics in the belizing. At
some point or another, all the political rhetoric should be
put aside and we should just be looking at what
we need to do to maintain decent morale and what
we need to do to maintain enough people there in

(06:41):
the pipeline but you're right, recruitment's a problem. I'm told
it has picked up a bit. We have kind of
reduced some of the barriers to recruitment by being more
open in the city to taking lateral hires from other departments.
That was something that had long been kind of resisted
by the city and I think they've gotten over that,
and that's to the good. But it's it's both. It's

(07:02):
both a morale issue, policy issue, and a money issue.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Steve good as our guests, and see, let's get to
the second part that you mentioned in the open there.
Uh when when the major headline is Okay, there's there's
a problem with crime, we need to raise taxes to
get that under control. But then slipped into that is
we need the revenue, yeah, for public safety, but also
affordable housing and poverty disruption efforts, which that could mean

(07:30):
a lot of things, right, And it just seems like
a government, bureaucratic organization that that's going to be created
with a bunch of people that are paid a lot
of money to look at this and look at that
with no real result.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Am I wrong on that?

Speaker 6 (07:46):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (07:46):
No, it's it's the asterisks, you know to the statement
that you know that kills the whole deal. You know,
it's the footnote that takes back the the mean statement.
And I would notice note that the mayor didn't know
almost didn't ever use the word policing. He kept talking
about public safety, which is this kind of much more
generic term, and really what they're yeah, what they're talking
about with public and then with these public safety and

(08:09):
poverty disruption designed to get at the crime. So so
it really does look like a lot of people are
going to be thinking that they might be voting for
supporting a tax increase to put more boots on the
ground in terms of policing, but what they're really probably
getting are more social programs and more kind of social
welfare front of kind of concepts that are that are

(08:31):
in theory designed to disrupt poverty. And we've seen that already.
You know, we saw this huge thing that happened to
Government Square, you know, where they were sending people in
you know, with through nonprofits with city funds to give
out sandwiches at the bus stop and hopes that that
would make people less angry and less likely to hurt
each other. But they still had to reroute the bus

(08:52):
lines and they just had a shooting already here in
twenty twenty six at Government Square. So these we know
that a lot of these poverty disruption efforts just end
up going to nonprofits for pilot programs that really don't
change anything. I mean, public safety and policing go hand
at hand. I know it's sort of out of fashion
right now, and it's certainly out of fashion and the
more progressive circles that seem to be running city Hall

(09:13):
at the moment, which you can't have a city without
good law enforcement, and in these programs, at the end
of the day, absolutely poverty plays a role in crime,
there's no question. But economic development and jobs are the
only proven mover they are rather than just giving money
away through these programs.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
And Stee you make a great point.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
And if he had come out and said, look, here's
what our force is right now, here's what it costs,
here's the amount of funds we raise our x and
that to do that, that's going to increase our police
presence and get more boots on the ground, more officers
out there. By twofold is going to go to increasing
technology that they use, equipment, all that. But he did

(09:53):
and he said public safety, which is just the broadest,
you know, most utopian term out there.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
And and you're right, I think.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
People would if you if you approach it like that
and said, look, we're gonna get more cops, We're gonna
increase it by this amount, boom and boom boom, I
think you might well go all right, I might, I
might consider that.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
But when it's this kind of language, it doesn't make
much sense.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Well it was.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
It was kind of gaslighting, you know. I mean, I mean, look,
it could mean any number of things. And I think
you know a lot of people that you know that
were there. I didn't go, but I watched a fair
amount of it on live stream, you know, at the
address yesterday, you know, left there thinking God, big, you know,
he's actually making a giant concession here, because recall, we
didn't have a crime problem. That was what they were

(10:38):
arguing throughout the campaign last year. And so it sounded
like a pretty significant concession on his part. But when
you really get at what was said, when you look
at you know, if you print it out and read it,
you know, there really isn't a direct promise there to
to really invest more significantly in law enforcement. I didn't
see it anyway, then it really does leave the door

(11:01):
open for them to spend the money however they want.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Now.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Note also, you know, we have this thing called the
Cincinnati Futures Commission, which is a bunch of business leaders
that issued a report about two years ago at the
Mayor's request, and they also recommended raising the earnings tax,
but they wanted to dedicate that money for economic development,
job growth, and new housing, and they wanted to put
it in a very kind of dedicated and confined special fund.

(11:25):
This version of the tax increase that the Mayor seems
to be a pushing here does not have any strings
on it. It's just like, hey, trust us, we're going
to use this to get at public safety, and public
safety includes poverty reduction, and poverty reduction means whatever the
hell we say it means. And that's what I took
away from it.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
All right, Well, that's Steve Gooden. We will let you go,
Thanks so much. We'll see how this shakes out, because
what's the Mayor's put what a sixty day kind of
timeframe on this thing.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
That's my understanding of got to council, and I'm very
curious what they make of it.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
All right, Thanks so much.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Take care, thank you. Thanks.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah. So you go in there, they say, right now,
it's one point eight percent here in town Columbus Cleveland
two point five. To go in there and say let's
make it two point twenty five, we still look like heroes.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
I mean, that's that's the art of government right there.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Still may still make the case for much less, which
again I mean the fact that we are less than
than Columbus and Cleveland, that that's a good thing. That's
you're more attractive to folks. But we'll see with that.

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Speaker 1 (14:18):
We'll park your car. It was forty dollars. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (14:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Then if you want to, Valet was like seventy.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
But there's a lot of places, and we went to
one in Florida a couple years ago. They don't even
allow you to self park your car. You must valet.

Speaker 14 (14:34):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, and then yeah, then you're paying for that, and
then you you got tipped the guy and you gotta
wait fifteen minutes to get your car.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I hate it.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
So I get both sides of it, but I certainly
understand that the people that don't want those Airbnb homes
in their own neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Let's talk to Brett and Mason about it. Hey, Brett,
thanks for calling, buddy. What do you have?

Speaker 11 (14:55):
Yeah, a couple of days. One, you guys are right
about what Blackstone also does. For Blackstone, for example, is
they'll buy multiple homes in an area and then they
will price those homes out super high to continue to
drive the prices up in that neighborhood because you know
how like you do comps, you know how they do

(15:15):
two or three cops.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 11 (15:19):
Yeah, they manipulate the comps too, So it's really bad.
And then I found out that they're actually contracting with
builders and building entire neighborhoods and owning the whole thing.
So instead of buying individual single family homes, they're making
deals with tons with builders and building an entire neighborhood

(15:42):
and buying every single single family home in that neighborhood
because that builder just built the Trump's doing it is great.
He saw this happening, see, and he saw how they
were destroying the market, like you said, Rocky for those
first time home buyers and making him impossible.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
So I'm really surprised he.

Speaker 11 (16:02):
Even did this. To be honest with you, I didn't
even know that he knew this was going on. So yeah,
I agree, it's it's a great move.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, it's really yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Because these companies they have billions of dollars, so they
can kind of wait things out a little bit and
just drive that price up. They don't need their rent
money or whatever right now. So, yeah, they drive it up.
And as anyone who's bought a house knows, it goes
by the comps. And if every comp around is all
of a sudden, you know, an exorbitant price, guess what
yours is going to be too.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah. Well that's.

Speaker 11 (16:33):
Look.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
When we was right on the money, having just sold
our house a couple of years ago, our goofy next
door neighbor got mad at us because we'd lived in
a house for twenty years. Guess what, we sold it
for a lot more money than we bought it for.
He's like, well, what you're doing is jogging up the
Texas around here, Like, what do you want me to
do here? Dude, live here the rest of my life

(16:56):
and I don't want to be here. Yeah, but it's
also driving the price of his house too, That's what
I told That's what I told him. I was like,
you don't get the equation. Huh.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Well yeah, well look I understand being upset, but people
got to live their life, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (17:11):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
You're not gonna expect you to stay in your house.
You don't want to.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Just to help that guy, it's me and my wife
and a one acre lot in a five bedroom house.
Sure we'll stick around just for old times sake.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
You gonna now let me ask you this. Do you
miss the house and the privacy and the own driveway
and the own garage and stuff.

Speaker 11 (17:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Absolutely, I hadn't lived in because we live in a condo.
Now if you didn't know that, and and I hadn't
lived in an apartment since I was early single.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Right well, I mean you got that top floor of
the whole building, and you know, got the east wing
in the west and all that, so it's not.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Too bad you got to ride the uh uh, my
private elevator is on the fritz right now. I do
have to take the elevator with the other people.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
That's why.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
That's why I asked you a little rock slumming around
with the rural folks now, and you could be sitting
in your own house.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
To get in there, you know, the private elevator whisk
me right down.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Right there, the car waiting right there.

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And the shared elevator smells like fart. You shouldn't have
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Speaker 1 (19:58):
Rocky talking about affordable housing and or lack thereof. Let's
talk to you as Sean and Della High. Hey Sean,
what do you got?

Speaker 5 (20:07):
Hey?

Speaker 19 (20:08):
So, I had a couple of neighbors or a neighbor
that sold their house to a company called Conrex. They
paid one hundred and twenty thousand in cash for it. Sorry,
I'm starting my truck, but they paid one hundred and
twenty cash.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
And then I went on.

Speaker 19 (20:28):
The website like a year later, just checking the property
values and they sold. Conrects sold that house the Conrects
Company Incorporated for three hundred and ninety eight thousand dollars
four months later.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (20:44):
Wow, and there's not a house in my neighborhood where
three hundred ninety eight thousand.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
So I mean in your experience then what what what
jacked it up? Just were other houses around the area?

Speaker 19 (20:59):
No, Now, it wasn't even four months later in conrect
sold at the conrect Company Incorporated.

Speaker 9 (21:08):
Okay, okay, it's.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
On the Ham of the County.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
Whatever that website is.

Speaker 11 (21:13):
You can check on.

Speaker 19 (21:14):
Properties and you know, history of sales and stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well that's that's and thanks Sean in this corporate buyaps man.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Well again, hopefully the Trump's is going to do something
about that. That was the big announcement that that came
out today. So let's uh, let's get Jay on in
Dayton right quick. Hey Jay, what you got on the
mayor and the tax hike?

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Wow?

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You guys are incredible, uh for starters.

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Rocky, both of you guys.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
So what we appreciate it and thanks and thanks Jay
and we lost j uh So coming up here we're
gonna be talking about this. This has been all over
the news. H We have our our good buddy, our
tech guy, Dave Hatter is going to be joining us

(22:24):
to talk about the X the Twitter thing. What are
you gonna call it?

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Grock Grock AI, which is the AI version of series
of X. Well, no, but it's like it's like the
chat gpt of because yeah, that's one Google has that
now too. Yeah, and so what you know, A lot
a lot of times I see used is people will
go like say I don't know some fact about a

(22:50):
movie or something, and then somebody will in the you
will go, hey, Grock, explain what happened here? And then
it'll go through and and kind of lay lay it
all out just subjectively. But I guess now what it's
being used for is it's used to undress women. And I,
in fact came across one of these dads, and you
know me, I never like to look at those sort
of things online on the Twitter.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
Let me tell you something. We have to do research
on this program. We wouldn't bring stuff to you the
American people. Were we not to look into it ourselves?

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
It is our jobs, yes, if not our calling duty.
So for instance, I believe it was yesterday, there was
a it was a picture of a woman in a like.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
A cop outfit.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Cop outfit, okay, it's like sitting on a couch, and
it said like, hey, groc would you like to see
what I look like in a bikini? And again I
didn't want to look at it, but I I you know,
I showed purposes. I had to click on it and boom,
there she was in a very very very small bikini. Wow. Yeah,

(23:55):
it's just that. So you see these sort of things
all over again. I don't really look at her, but
I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
See, I think that's I don't I remember reading this story.
It's been a few weeks, but I think that's how
this hall started, with some lady with just goofing around
with it. And and it was a picture. There's a
posted a picture of herself and go, hey, what would
that what would I look like naked or something? And

(24:19):
sure enough, bo.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
And I think the issue is it's not.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
You know, a and it's it's not a real picture.
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a loot image or you know, anything illegal like that,
because it's not actually a picture of a woman naked
for real. It's what AI's derivation of that which looks on.

(24:48):
We will talk to her, but it's complicated. But I
want to get to the bottom of this because I
don't want to see any more of this smut ed
on on Twitter.

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Rock is being used to manufacture sexam pictures.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yes, to undress women. But again, as we said earlier,
the issue is you can ask roc to hey, here's this,
you know whatever, here's DEMI Levado, right, I mean, just
just to pick somebody right now, make her up here
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(33:15):
very very real. But still it raises the question do
people out there really want to see this stuff?

Speaker 2 (33:20):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
Well, let's talk to a fellow who knows all about this,
and we can We're going to have we can debate
the moral the morality of it all. It's just insane,
Dave had her. You can speak to the tech issue here.
Happy New Year, buddy, Good to talk to you again.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah, thanks guys.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
Happy New Year to both you and all your listeners.
Good to be back. And this is an interesting topic
because I don't know that there's really going to be
a perfect solution for it, but just based on the
way these AI chatbots and large language models work, So yeah,
it's an interesting one that's created a lot of controversy,
especially in the tech world.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Well, and one of the things too is yeah, okay,
it's it's one thing, and it's and that's I'm going
to say, it's not right under any circumstances. But a
lot of this is like, it's not kitty porn, but
it's nonetheless. One lady said that some of the somebody
found a picture of her when she was fourteen, and

(34:20):
I've used it to make I guess, naked pictures of her.
That's just that's insane.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
Uh yeah, I agree, And obviously that's also illegal in
most places. Right you get into the whole child sexual
abuse material angle of this, And you know, I was
just just reading up on this a little bit to
kind of see where the lass because this all started
about a week ago when apparently, you know, there was
this whole bikini craze for a while and even Musk
like made a picture of himself in a bikini, and

(34:48):
you know, I think that led people then, and there's
apparently you know, I mean, this sort of stuff has
gone on for a long time. I know we've talked
about it in the past, like in the early days
of deep fakes, the idea that you could create very
realistic looking photos of people and videos of people being
and things and in compromising positions and so forth. So
you know, this is just the extension of that.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Now.

Speaker 6 (35:09):
You know, most of these these uh I hate the
term chatbot personally, but that's what most people seem to
think of. I mean, it's really a generative AI large
language model.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
You know, whether it's Jemini, chatzpt Grock, quad perplexity, those
are probably the five biggest ones most people know about.
You go in and enter prompt and it's you know,
it's a non deterministic model. It uses probability to generate text, video, audio, whatever.
Obviously that the ability to generate much more realistic stuff
continues to approve. And this whole bikini thing seem to

(35:40):
have started this. And then apparently at least someone saw
a picture of two girls estimated to be I think
the age of like twelve and fourteen, who are in
you know, these sort of sexually suggestive things, and then
that led us all the sort of kick off. So
at least from what I've read, I have not seen
any accusation of what I would describe a real child

(36:03):
sexual abuse material. Now I'm not an attorney, so you know,
take what I'm paying for, what it's worth is how
I understand it. All you know of like actual needs
of children and so forth. Although I don't know that
that couldn't be done, it hasn't happened. And probably has
happened sadly and sickly somewhere. I think for the most part,
you know that this was more of an issue where
you know, it's taking photos of children and then like

(36:25):
putting them in these suggestive attire. Again, from what I've
read about, I haven't seen any of this stuff myself, guys.
And then you know, people started to complain about it,
and then you know, Groc itself responded, and then Musk responded,
and you know, Musk said, quote, anyone using groc to
make your legal content will suffer the same consequences if
they upload I legal content, and then apparently ask the

(36:46):
safety team said, you know, essentially the same thing. So,
you know, part of the problem with all these, guys
is you have billions of people in the world, bellions
of people using these tools. And while you can try
to build all kinds of guard rail into these things
to stop people from saying, hey, show me how to
make an explosive device or whatever it is, you wouldn't

(37:06):
want them to do. You know, since since the beginning
of the chatbot praise, we've seen people doing what's known
as jailbreaking quote unquote, This idea of I'm going to
attempt to get this tool to do something it's not
supposed to do. And you know, I think one of
the things that would be tricky about this is why
I put my programmers out on is Okay, can I

(37:28):
if there's a photo of two younger children. Now, obviously
if they're like infants, for very small children, that's one thing.
But you know, I know lots of and I have
known lots of people over the years who seem to
look much older than their age, especially if they were
dressed up. You know, can it accurately look at a photo,
determine someone's age and then say, okay, this falls under

(37:51):
the realm of the legal activities because the age of
the person a person's in this photo, you know, would
put them into the sea sam space versus this is adult.
And again, I still think it's distasteful for people to
go in and say, okay, you know, put someone into
bikini or whatever. I'm not a big fan of the
whole idea, and I don't waste my time doing stuff

(38:12):
like this, but I think to see sam angle the
child's sexual abuse material when you get that urn, that's
what it means is a concern, And you know, certainly.
I'm glad we have laws to try to tamp that
stuff down. It'll be interesting to see where this goes
over time, because I'm not sure how they're going to
stop it entirely. Just find the nature of the way
these things work, right.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
So look, if AI in GROC is so advanced technology
and they're smart people behind it, isn't there a seemingly
simple way to fix it, to not allow it to
do this?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Can't someone whoever's in charge.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Of this thing like just not allow you to prompt
a what would be considered a Lewde picture of someone.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
Well that's a good question, Rockie, But you know your
definition of lose photo of someone in mine are probably different,
all right. I don't know, We're ours are probably very
just sent It's very similar, actually, but a.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Whole other level, by the way, But I don't want
to be in partners. You guys are amateurs.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
Go ahead, So so you know you've got that whole
who decides. Now again, we have laws, thankfully to say
certain types of things are illegal, and you know, I'm
glad those laws exist, and I'm glad we go after
this sort of exploitation kids for sure. But again, if
if you have a photo of let's just say teenagers, right,

(39:39):
let's say like a sixteen year old teenager. I would say,
if you just asked your average human being, you know, okay,
how old does this person look? Especially if they look older.
You know, some are going to assume that they're probably
legitimate adults, So I don't again, you know, you, I'm
sure they've got rules.

Speaker 29 (39:58):
Built into all of these things. Like you say, people
try to deal break them and get them to do
things they weren't designed to do, they aren't supposed to do,
generate illegal content all the time, you know, And one
of the ways that that's often done is you just
keep at it, right, You ask it a question, knowing it,
you prompt it with something you know it's not supposed
to answer, and it says, yeah, sorry, I can't do that,
I can't tell you that or.

Speaker 6 (40:19):
Whatever, and then you keep coming back at it with
different perspectives, different angles, different takes on it, until you
finally get it to do what you want again. And
then these things, you know. One of the reasons why
I think some of the bloom is off the ai
ros is the way these large language models work. Again,
it's all probabilistic, right, you can send a prompt to

(40:40):
any one of these things and get a different answer
every single time. It's not deterministic. You know, it's not
like two plus two equals four all the time. It
uses a probabilistic model for what it comes up with.
And that's why again I'm saying I think it's a
tricky challenge. You could certainly put rules in there and say, Okay,
if someone asks a prompt that has this word in it,

(41:01):
or has this phrase in it, or is asking for
this sort of thing, simply say I can't do that.
But when people get really creative when they're prompting, I'm
not sure you could can see that every possible way
someone could eventually ask it to do something it's not
supposed to or you know, it's not allowed to do,

(41:22):
Like this situation right here. It's a tricky challenge. I
would be surprised personally if they ever come up with
a bullet based on the way these things currently work,
a bulletproof way to stop something like this.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
We're talking to Dave Hatter and guys, we've talked about
this several times on this show. You've got people who
have really seemingly nothing better to do than to sit
around and do exactly what you're talking about, Dave, Do
just sit around and go, Okay, I'm going to say,
I'm going to ask the same question of this thing
whatever five hundred times until I get the results that

(41:54):
I want. Is that not what happens here?

Speaker 6 (41:58):
And yeah, you know you just came trying different takes
on the prompt until you sometimes can get it, you know,
to jail to jail break it, and get it to
produce something it's not supposed to produce. And I mean
there have been plenty of examples. Now, you hope over
time those the programmers building these things and the models
themselves get better, but you know, we continue to see

(42:21):
examples where people are able to jail break these things
and get them to do things that are not supposed
to do. This to me just seems like the latest
example of it, and you know, it's generated a lot
of press. The response from x slash Musk was interesting,
you know, but I do get his point of Okay,
you know, one way to potentially tamp it down, especially

(42:45):
if there's not a clear cut technological solution. And again,
you know, I'm not an expert on the end working
for these things. Got I just know how it generally works,
and that's where I see some problems with it. Is
to say, okay, you know, if you upload content that
is illegal, or you use my tools to generate content
that is illegal, we will report you to the police.

(43:06):
You know, and you know you will suffer the consequences
of whatever legal actions occur as a result of that.
You know, that will hopefully tample out of it down
simply because people I'm sure typically Musk means things you know,
or those things when he says he will, I fully expect,
you know, they'll start reporting people if this sort of
thing continues. So hopefully that will that will put some

(43:28):
of it to rest. But clearly that won't get there.
That will not take care of all of it.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
And and Dave, I know you're not a lawyer, but
but to me, but we we have this conversation often
when when it comes to AI, and that's the whole well,
what is real and what isn't? Because my you know,
throughout all of history, if my eyeballs tell me it's real,
it's real. But now that's not necessarily the case. So
couldn't someone who uh, you know, said, show me so

(43:55):
and so in a in a bikini. Right, couldn't that
person make the case well, I didn't upload a picture,
a real picture of her in a seductive outfit. It's yeah,
it's not real, it's generated.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
I didn't. It's not actually her. Could couldn't that be
a defense?

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Well, you're right, I'm not an attorney, but probably maybe.
But I guess here's my here's my angle on that.
You know, you entered the prompt that created that photo,
the photo quote unquote, let's call it an image since
it's not a photo, right, I entered the.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Prompt to create a a fictitious, non real photo that
looks real.

Speaker 6 (44:42):
Yes, yes, And if that fits into the child sexual
abuse material bucket or some other illegal type of content,
you know you initiated the prompt that created that. I
think someone could argue that, Okay, you know, yes, that
image is not real, but it fits the Again. Then

(45:07):
you know, guys, we're getting into a wild West kind
of territory here. Whether it's not an attorney and there's
no case law on any of this stuff at this point,
and this is one of the reasons why copyright is
such a problem with this. I'm like unless something is
recently changed. You know, if you go in today and
you create an image us in one of these tools,
you can't copyright it in the traditional way because who

(45:27):
owns it? You know. Yeah, you could make an argument that, well,
it was you know, your intellectual property that wrote the
prompts that created it. I don't know, It's this is
all going to get really interesting, you know, as these
tools progress and get better and better and better at

(45:48):
creating realistic looking audio video or video and audio sorry,
video and images is what I'm trying to say, plus
audio as well. Right, the whole deep sate angle of
audio and the ability to run scams on people because
you close someone's voice as a whole separate and very
concerning topic. It comes back to what you said, Rock.
I mean, you're getting to the point where you cannot

(46:09):
assume that just because you see something online, even if
it comes from a quote reputable source unquote, is legitimate
at this point, right, it could have been created by
one of these tools. And you know, even smart people
get fooled by this stuff occasionally. And you know, someone
who you normally trust, some reputable media outlet, you know,
especially in a breaking news type situation could share things

(46:32):
that are not real, and that's one of the reasons
why everyone needs to slow down, take a breath, and
you know, consider that anything you see at this point
has at least a you know, probably fifty to fifty
shot of being fake, especially if there's some sort of
political or financial angle to it.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
All Right, Well that Dave will have this conversation for
the next twenty five years. I'm guessing I started hate
twenty five hundred years, but did Dave hadter It is
our pleasure to talk to you again, son, Happy New Year.
We'll be talking to you again soon.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
Always my pleasure. God.

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and Texas, great matchup nine million viewers, Pop Tarts Bowl
which everyone goes nuts about for sure, Georgia Tech and
BYU eight point seven million, Gator Bowl, X million, Music
City Bowl, five point three million Military Bowl which I

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did two point five million, which is their highest in
years I think third highest ever for that bowl. I
take all the credit for that. The Rate Bowl, I
get the Rate Bowl between New Mexico and Minnesota. Okay,
not exactly a marquee matchup four point four or five million,

(51:28):
years best in two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Now, how much of that is gambling?

Speaker 1 (51:34):
How much as a gambling exactly?

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Maybe, But I'm not sure we as a company care
why you're watching, just that you are watching, because that
means ratings, that means.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Revenue, absolutely what and it and that explains everything though
done in I mean every all these people who are
gambling on everything, and you pretty much sports gambling is
legal in every state now right. I don't know if
it's every date, but it's damn close. Yeah, And you
got your app right there on your phone and you

(52:05):
just start playing around. You start blah blah blah, who
do you got in the New Mexico State game or whatever? Well,
I've already been paid attention to that. Well, and then
you start looking into it and the way you go.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Correct and you know, but again people people are watching,
and I think there's still uh so, by the way,
so sports betting is currently leagueing thirty eight states plus Washington,
d C, Puerto Rico. Yeah so, but look there's a
lot going going forward, which is why these balls remain.
You know, number one, people watch them, sure, right, and

(52:37):
number two it's it's in a window of time where
there's you know, there's not a lot going on, you know,
and you got standalone windows, you got people off work,
and it's a beautiful thing, which is why they're like, oh,
then you do it with the bulls.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I don't. I don't see that happening because of everything
I just read to you.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
I got to tell you there were a couple of
times we were off that two weeks. There were a
couple of times when I was sitting on the couch
and I watching TV, just flipping the dollar around and
I come up on a football game that I don't
even know was on. Iver watch it. Yeah, we catch
a little bit other. Yeah, sure, that's exactly right. So
I think, you know, a lot of people are doing that,
a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
So I, you know, I understand when people say, oh,
college football.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Is ruined and nil, and look.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
At the situation go on where right now with the
Washington quarterback, he committed that he's coming back. He announced
he was coming back, which a is funny to me
that people now make an announcement that they're coming back
to the college that they supposedly committed to before you
and they're never like screwed over it. But now then
like then like the next day he's in the portal
and he's at like a basketball game with Lane Kiffin

(53:42):
at LSU.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
It's very and so yeah, I get that.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
I understand that there's a lot of things that are
broken about it, but but a lot of people are watching.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
The one thing related to this I thought was interesting was,
you know, there was a who was It was another big,
big you know, like like Donor person was basically like, look,
I'm not I'm not investing in anymore because he's a
These these kids don't even call and say thank you.

(54:13):
And like if I'm a say I'm a you know, okay,
I'm a Notre Dame alumni, and I want Notre Dame
to be good. I want to invest money in some
kids to come. I want you to be invested in this,
in making the university, in this football program better. And
that means more than one year. That means like, you know,
so these people are finding out. So I gotta pay

(54:34):
this kid for a year, and I want him to
be all in as all in as I am. We
ain't all in, not even closed, and he's gone the
next year.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I was gonna say that all of a Sudden, Alabama
and all for some six million dollars whatever the case
might be.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
You know, that's exactly here. It is right here. I
found it.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
A long time Colorado booster is expressing his frustration with
funding payments to players.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Who have no loyalty to the program.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Quote, you give them that check and the guy's going
to are to hell with that.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
That ain't happening to me. No allegiance, no money.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
And then I mean even recently Troy Aikman, you know,
because he was you know, you see ale a grad
and he said, I'm I'm done with it. And I
always I said, I gave money to a person or
person's and not so much as a call or or
a lunch or anything. And he said something done.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
See, I aren't you really murky legal waters though? With
this stuff. That's what I always. I don't know how
that stuff works. No, can y you can't obligate the
kid to stay or it's not like signing up for
the army or something. Hey you're going to be here
two years and like it.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
No, you can't cook because as of right now, there
is no binding language that keeps you there. So yeah,
so you know, I think people are on were like, okay, yeah,
come here part. Look, nobody loves that player likely doesn't
love the university as much as you do. He's like
he checked me, likes the opportunity that he may have to,

(56:06):
you know, to play football and all that, but he's
probably not invested full on the in the in the university,
or he'd be at the first place he started at.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Well that's the look it. I don't know, but I
know you well enough to note that's the reason you
went to Notre Dame. I mean you were as a kid.
I'm sure that Notre Dame. Man, that's that was the
castle on the hill. Yeah, there were other offers, but
going there was a dream as a kid. Correct me
if I'm wrong. Yes, And because of that, I wanted

(56:35):
to win for the bloom goal. That's what I'm saying
right now. I don't know if that as many.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Kids are moved by that, especially if you're at your
fourth school, Like, what do you tell your kids? Like,
I'll be able to tell my kids and I already do, Like,
hey played a Notre Dame. Was there four years? You
know this year was great? This year wasn't. If you're
at your fourth school, right, well, you ca and you know,
and a lot of discuss. The good thing is there's
a lot of discussion about people, you know, people saying, look,

(57:03):
we've got to do something because just because something's working
well now doesn't mean it's not broken or breaking.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
Right.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
There's a lot of times things are you know, look
at look at an economy.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Boy, things are.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Great, Well, the machines are in motion here where it's
not going to be great soon. And that could be
what's going on with with college football?

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Well would when were we before the break or shooting
might have been just the other day we talked about
the kid who it was on like a seventh school
or something.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah, TJ. Finley, So in seventh school in seven years?

Speaker 1 (57:38):
That's insane.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Yeah, I mean you gotta, you gotta, you gotta start there.
Can we start there and say that that's that can't be?
And and you know, as Nick Saban and others have said,
I would allow one transfer as a non graduate and
if you're a gradual, can maybe you get another one.
But you know, before you're as a freshman, saw more junior,

(58:00):
you shouldn't be on your fourth school.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
I just don't agree.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
So I don't think I should be with that.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
We take in with traffic and weather, what is going on.
I just say I'm glad they fixed college football. I
want to reiterate that point. You're so happy to have
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With eddiean Rocky Willie coming up here after the top
of the hour. So rock We've we've talked about this before.
I mean, we're just catching up with some old weird
news from the UH over the basically the middle of
last month. We've talked about being trapped in quicksand before.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Yes, I feel like like, certainly when I was a kid,
that was like you had to really really get scared
of that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
You see all of the old movies. If you get
trapped in quicksand you were done, man, that was it. Well,
this this guy and this reminds me of you. You
saw that one hundred and twenty seven hours movie, right,
didn't we talk about that, the one where James Franko
gets trapped in the cave. Oh yeah, that thing?

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yeah, yeah, the one that was based on the true story.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Yeah, yes, Well this guy was hiking in that's same
area Arches National Park in Utah. So he's apparently he
didn't see the movie because he's out there on the
second day of his personal backpacking trip by him obviously
on his own hiking in the I mean, the serious wilderness.

(01:01:20):
He's walking through the can to a canyon floor when
suddenly he found himself up to his knee in quicksand
fortunately brought along an emergency satellite beacon which was picked
up by emergency responders. The team got a ladder in boards, putting,

(01:01:41):
got the lettering, blah blah blah, worked his legs loose.
By the time they got him out of there, he
was up to his thighs in it. But you know,
so he's being interviewed and he said, you know, in quicksand,
you're extremely buoyant. Most people won't sink past their wist
in Quicksand. Well, well, where did they come up with

(01:02:01):
this in all these movies?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Yeah, I want to remain being deathly afraid of this.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Well, hey, look, I'm not going to try it, so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
But what happens if he gets sucking my to my waist?
He didn't say anything about how I get out of that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
You're not going anywhere apparently, Yeah, I mean can you
Well you can't or your feet aren't touching obviously touching
the ground, So how can you walk? Can you swim
in it?

Speaker 30 (01:02:30):
Know?

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
These are things that keep me up at night, though, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Not going to trust the old Tarzan movies that I
used to watch. Now rock this sounds like something that
would happen at your house. A guy in Sydney, Australia,
Andrew McKay is a fella's name. He uh, he checked
on he was checking on his house to see checking
on his dog on his pet cam. Right, so when

(01:02:58):
he checked his pet cam, he saw his dog, Thunder,
had somehow opened the sliding glass door to get outside.
So dogs pretty pretty smart. Well, he must have really
had to pee or something. I don't know, but so
you know, so old Thunder opens the door there, and

(01:03:20):
so the guy goes, oh, well, he'll come back in.
You knows, I'll be what he's doing obviously, So he
comes back a little while later. Well, it seems like
some of the other animals and his uh on his
little farm there took advantage. And when he looked at
it again, a steer named Sue and a horse named Cricket.
We're walking around in his kitchen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
So they found out how to get.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Out to correct. Well, no, the dog was inside, opened
the door. They walked in, so they're all just in there. Hey,
this is pretty nice in here. So over the next
hour and a half, McKay said, they took turns playing inside,
knocking things off cabinets, and they drink almost all the

(01:04:02):
water out of the fish ink.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Poor fish.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Can you imagine you're watching this all happen on camera.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
That would walk, That would suck. You never heard of
a cow get in the house and the horse.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta steer in a horse walking around
in your house. That's a that's a mass make when
I would call my neighbor, would call somebody, would you
go to the house and just shoe the animals out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
And open the door and see if they see if
they come.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
But like you said, that's a that's the first thing
I thought of, the poor fish. But I don't know.
Cows and horses won't eat a fish, will they, I guess.

Speaker 29 (01:04:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
But if it's just it's just like gold fish like that,
it's just gonna go right down. Yeah, maybe we can
talk to Willie about that. We shall see coming up
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Demonstrations break out after a woman's killed by an Immigration
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I'm Matt reeth S breaking now in Minneapolis. Anger follows
the shooting of a woman by an officer with ICE.
A mayor, a governor reacting this afternoon video shows an
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Speaker 13 (01:05:37):
This is a special report from ABC News. I'm Michelle
Frands and ice operations in Minneapolis ending in an ICE
officer shooting and killing a woman insider vehicle. Homeland Security
Secretary Christy Nome called it a case of domestic terrorism,
claiming the woman used her vehicle as a weapon.

Speaker 23 (01:05:52):
An officer of ours acted quickly and defensively shot to
protect himself and the people around him. And my understanding
is is that she was hit and is deceased.

Speaker 13 (01:06:03):
President Trump and a social media post says he watched
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It's beyond me that apparently from the federal government, from
the Homeland Security Director herself, has already determined who this
person was, what their motive was, and they hadn't even
been taken out of the vehicle.

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Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry says he saw the video too,
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Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Alright back with Eddian Rocky and here it is Wednesday.
Rock Yes, time for Wednesdays with Willy being brought to
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Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
And our first one of the year, Wednesdays with Willy
and Willy when we started the off New year off
with a very dour feeling about Cincinnati sports. Who's in
worst shape right now, Wes Miller. And you see Duke Tobin,
Zach Taylor and the Bengals, the Reds or.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Deer Park football.

Speaker 18 (01:12:25):
Well, I'll say this, you know deer Park football. They
won their first five games, and after that they won
right in the crapper. You might recall Scott Souderfield at
one point lost, won like five or six games, then won,
then lost their last five games. I look at Wes Miller,
it's not Miller time anymore unless you're drinking tequila. So

(01:12:46):
you see right now, Bearcot basketball is completely in the
dol drums. The knives are out for him. And then
you got course the Bengals with Duke Tobin and Zach Shula,
and there's nothing about unhappiness there. But the Reds, I'll
say this there didn't make it of the playoffs, didn't
They just lose like three in a row to the Dodgers,
the greatest team money can buy. So at least with

(01:13:06):
the Reds you have a circumstance where they actually went
to the playoffs. Playoffs. I don't think the Bengals are
close for a while. I don't think the Bearcats are going.
You might throw in Richard Patino of the Xavier Musketeers.
That's not too good either. In fact, they lost at
home by forty one points to allow the team from Nebraska,
for God's sakes.

Speaker 10 (01:13:26):
So everywhere I look.

Speaker 18 (01:13:27):
I see opportunities, and I think we've hit rock bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Well that's the thing, Willie, I mean, we're That's kind
of what the angle Rocket I were taking here because
both college basketball teams still seem to be doing all
that great. Obviously we're just talking about it. We're still
what six weeks out from pitchers and catchers, so we
got a little we're in the winter doldrums here.

Speaker 18 (01:13:52):
And I asked rock this question a couple hours ago.
If somebody had said to you, Rocky, who has the
best college football program in the state of Indiana, you
would have said Notre Dame or Purdue. But no, it's
the Hoosiers, the Hoosiers and the College Football pro and

(01:14:12):
the Hoosiers. And in fact, as you know that, Scott
Saderfield and John Cunningham, my brother, had the opportunity Cunningham
did to hire the head football coach of the Hoosiers
and failed to do. So what about that, Rocky.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Well, all I can say, I mean, out of course
Notre Dame did go the National title game last year
in Indiana's you had to go to the national title game.
So we'll kind of put that on hold for a minute.
But I'm very happy for the success that the Hoosiers
have had. You talk about a long time coming. If
you are a long suffering Hoosier fan, you went a

(01:14:47):
long long time for this, So good for them, folks.

Speaker 18 (01:14:51):
And the other thing, by the way, how did Notre
Dame do in the National Championship game? Remember that score, Rockie?

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I believe it was a you know, I think it
was two four. I'm not sure.

Speaker 18 (01:15:01):
I think I think it was forty five to one.
It wasn't that close to one. Yes, I kicked, And
so everywhere I look, I see opportunities everywhere I look.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
So Willie, let's uh, let's talk about what's going on.
Report from the Southern Bureau. What is the very latest
as far as your double wide in that neck of
the woods goes. I'm just curious at this point.

Speaker 18 (01:15:31):
Things are not bad, and I want to thank iHeartMedia
for establishing a first class broadcast center near Cape Coral
in a double wide. I'm very happy. I'm good to
be here. The equipment works about three quarters of the time,
which is more than it ever I anticipated. It's better
than there. And remember the first few weeks we had

(01:15:53):
the new studios, we couldn't broadcast at all, and we
couldn't take telephone calls, so that was a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Uh, well, we're man in the We're man in the
home forward for you. Well, what what What's what's in
the news right now? That's got Willy all fired up.
I'm just let me ask you this, Willie. They're at
the Southern Compound. Is it like your media center here

(01:16:21):
at your house where you have a whole bank of
TV monitors, you have CB radio shortway from Europe to
all nine yards? Do you have that operational correct? You
got it down there, Edie.

Speaker 18 (01:16:36):
It kind of depends on what station you watch. I'm
trying to watch MS now so you don't have to.
And if I watch MS now, brutal thugs wearing masks
acting like Nazis executed a fine woman who was simply
exercising your constitutional rights.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Then I flip over to Fox News and I.

Speaker 18 (01:16:57):
Find out that the ICE agent was almost killed by
the same woman in a vehicle who sought to run
him down, having been ordered out of the car. She
refused to do it. The ICE agent's life was in jeopardy.
To save his own life, he shot her twice in
the head. So in between Nazism and a justified shooting

(01:17:17):
is based upon what station you watch. I prefer to
believe that ICE agents, men and women who have taken
the oath of office to do what's required to keep
our community safe, acted correctly with a split sec life
and death decision. And if that agent made the wrong decision,
either he would be dead or his fellow ICE officials

(01:17:39):
would be dead. On the other hand, if you watch
MS now or CNN that this was a brutal assault
by a Nazi type Gestapo agent who killed an innocent
woman exercising her constitutional rights.

Speaker 10 (01:17:54):
Can you tell me, Rocky, what is it?

Speaker 6 (01:17:57):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
I tend to agree with you. I mean telling we
got to do this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
If a cop tells you to do something, tells you
to stop, tells you to quit what you're doing, what
you're doing, you do it. And until we learn that
these things will continue to happen. Did you see the
part where the vehicle the woman it was registered in Missouri,
So this was not even a Minnesota This is somebody
that has either been encouraged to come in and enjoining

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these protests or what.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
I find that a little bit odd in trouble.

Speaker 18 (01:18:25):
Well, when they were actual arrests during this Summer of Love,
in the summer of twenty twenty, the so called George
Floyd riots, of course that was the Center of Love,
eighty seven percent of those arrested did not have Minnesota residency,
so they were shipped.

Speaker 10 (01:18:42):
In to do certain things in the Center of Love.

Speaker 18 (01:18:45):
So this woman from Missouri, I guess that's nothing better
to do than to go to Minnesota, which is like
minus five degrees with snow and ice everywhere, to protest
these vicious Nazi Gestapo's killing and that men, women and children.
I guess that's what she thinks. And I'm thinking, what
world does she live in? And on the other hand, Eddie,
you have ICE officials. Imagine being an ICE official. The

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assaults against you are up seventeen hundred percent. In other words,
you're being beaten, you're being called rotten names, things are
being thrown at you and at some point, sadly soon
an ICE agent, an ICE policeman's going to be killed.
And at that point, according to Jacob Fry, the mayor
of Minneapolis, they shouldn't have been there in the first
place and will celebrate the murder of a police officer.

Speaker 10 (01:19:30):
And I think that's where we are.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Well, yeah, this one certainly isn't going away anytime soon.
This is all over both TVs. We have gone here.

Speaker 18 (01:19:39):
So yeah, in fact, tonight, aren't they worried about riots.
I'm watching the coverage and you have the governor, and
you have Keith Ellison, the attorney general, and Jacob Fry,
the mayor, kind of saying that the behavior in the
streets against law enforcement is justified. And another thing, Eddie,
where are Minneapolis police the if the MPD get it,

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what a search worn? They've been told don't go there,
And so nine to one one call was made by
the Ice agents and none of the local police arrived.
That they're done, they're gone, they won't go there. And
this could be the winner of love. We'd have more
love in the winter time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Looting stores, Well, why would they call the police off, though, Willie?

Speaker 18 (01:20:24):
Because they had a shooting and you have to notify
local authorities, says shots been fired. Come here, we have
a large crowd. They're gathering. They're going to do us harm.
We need help.

Speaker 10 (01:20:34):
And they did not show up. That'll show up.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
Didn't show up because it's a mess, I guess, so
a total mess. Yeah, so they know that they don't
want the same thing to happen to them. You know,
a bunch of riders show up and keep poking, poking,
poke and poke and poking on these folks, and at
some point you get pissed off and something tragic happens.
That they don't want to put themselves in a situation,
which is the same situation that happens in cities all

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across America with cops saying, you know, I want to
do my job, but I'd rather just go home at
night and see my kids and my family and not
be you know, on the news.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
So here we are.

Speaker 18 (01:21:12):
You've become very passive. In other words, you don't get
out of your car. You might, you might return nine
to one one calls. You're not going to be proactive
going into the streets seeking individuals with warrens. You're going
to be recessive and passive, don't do much. I'm looking
at the weather right now in Minneapolis is thirty six
degrees in sunny, but in a couple of days it's

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going to be seventeen fourteen to ten. That means the
riders have to put on muffins, got to put some
hats on. When you loot some gym store, or you
go against Apple and whatever, you're going to have to
dress up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
So Willie, let's go local here for a second. In
regard to this very thing. The mayor's talking about increasing
the the sale it's not the sales tax, it's the
income tax. Downtown in and honor republic safety and and
some other programs that benefit the poor to keep them

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out of trouble. Your thoughts about that is the factor matter.

Speaker 18 (01:22:13):
When he was running for reelection, did he mention an
income tax increase?

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
No?

Speaker 18 (01:22:18):
And secondly, they found eight point two million dollars to
pay criminal protesters money. They're about to give Fiji about
a million bucks. They're going to have chief fire Chief
Washington about a million bucks. They can find lots of
money for lots of silly stuff, but when it comes
to law enforcement, hell, they can't put cameras outside playgrounds
in the West End to maybe save the life of

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an eleven year old girl.

Speaker 10 (01:22:40):
They don't have money for that stuff.

Speaker 18 (01:22:41):
And I understand that Seth Walsh, a good friend of
Scott Sloan, is going to run for state treasurer. He's
done such a great job in Cincinnati. Looking at the money,
he wants to get control of the state treasury.

Speaker 10 (01:22:52):
How about that one.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Now, I would contest Willie that if there was a
serious you know, either ballot in his or a call
by the mayor, we got to raise taxes because we
need to make our streets safer. And here's what we're
going to do. We're gonna hire this many more cops.
We're gonna employ this much more technology. It costs this.
I think people would would be for it, but they

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know damn well that this has little to nothing to
do with actually putting police officers and stopping crime. It
has to do with all these these high flutine you know,
community projects, sort of sort of commissions where there's there's
a head and then there's another head of it, and
there's another manager and there's another manager and nothing actually happens.

Speaker 10 (01:23:34):
How about Irish Rowley making a half million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
I want that job. I want that job. How do
you get that? Either that or I want to be
a Minnesota daycare operator. Well that's what I want to.

Speaker 29 (01:23:44):
Be in here.

Speaker 10 (01:23:46):
And I don't blame Irish Roley.

Speaker 18 (01:23:47):
If somebody offers you a half million dollars, you're probably
going to take it to do a job. But you
have you have, you have the queen eleven years old,
and they promised two years ago to have cam and
recording equipments in that playground and in the West End,
and they failed to do it. So they've wasted the
money we've given him. So now city council wants more

(01:24:10):
money to waste more money on a bunch of bs.
And instead of just the eight million dollars to the protesters,
would hire eighty police officers, eighty more. But they spend
the money with Alfonsko Hartstein, who's by the way, a
fine civil rights attorney. Instead of spending money on law enforcement,
they spend money on a bunch of crap and bs.
And maybe the mayor has another car payment to make

(01:24:32):
it he wants to get some extra money there. He's
going to have the car, his third car repossessed, and
so I'm looking at this group and I'm thinking, do
we trust them with more money?

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Well, wellie, see you're supposed to be working on your
ten No, I'm working. I'm all fired of I know.
That's say you're you're a yeah, you're all po And
now that the judge is going to be mad at us,
and I hate it when that hap.

Speaker 18 (01:25:00):
Well, I'm on vacation and I work. I work on
vacation because I love what I'm doing. I'm glad. I
want to be on more, not less, because American people
need leadership, and damn it, I'm here to provide it.
And by the way, how about just add pepper. Just
add pepper, add pepper.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
All right, we'll get to the putting green. We'll see
you later.

Speaker 10 (01:25:19):
God bless America.

Speaker 5 (01:25:20):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Well, there he goes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Just add pepper that trick. Yeah, we got you, Willie
somewhere in South Florida.

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
With that.

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Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
We're definitely going to be late to the concert. I
feel like we should be there by now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
I'm just taking it all right back with Eddie and
Rocky just a little while longer. That Stove League in
effect for tonight. They're big guy. But right now, let's
talk about the latest and the Nick Reiner case as
this thing progresses with our good friend Royal Oaks, ABC News,
the legal Analyst. So, Royal, what are we What is
the very latest other than the fact that this kid's

(01:27:33):
attorney has jumped ship.

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
Very bizarre twist. I mean, Alan Jackson rode into town
weeks ago and confidently announced right he's on the job.
But something happened and there are two possibilities that people
are speculating about Number one money perhaps he thought Jackson
thought that he could cut a deal and make sure
that he would be compensated fairly, and now that ain't happening.

(01:27:58):
Or Number two big time disagreement between Jackson on the
one hand and somebody either in the crime or family
members who maybe kind of running the show behind the scenes.
As to mental health issues, should he plead insanity or not?
Should the defense ask for a competency hearing where the
judge could conclude, Hey, he's so gone, we can't even
have a trial, so he's just going to stay in

(01:28:19):
the hospital until he has a trial. Or the third option, Okay,
we're going to go forward. But is han't a murder case.
It's manslaughter because of schizophrenia or medication or whatever. All
of these are question marks. We don't really have answers
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
So as of right now, then, Royal, I guess the
Nick Reiner kid has a just a public defender?

Speaker 5 (01:28:39):
Is that it exactly a public defender who is very
highly thought of. I'm sure that the system to the
public Defender's office and the LA Superior Court made sure
with somebody very capable. It doesn't automatically mean that Reiner
can't afford a private lawyer. It could be that there
was just a breakdown with private counsel and it feels

(01:29:00):
like this thing has to go forward. But bottom line
is that we are going to be looking between now
and February. Some date in February, there's going to be
another hearing an arraignment, and between now and then we
may get a tip off from the new public defenders
to where the defense is going to go in terms
of a metal state defense.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
So let's break down those options. Royal, is this kid
no matter what the vert well, we know what the
verdict's going to be. Is he going to spend the
rest of his life either in some kind of facility
or in prison. Or is there a chance that this
guy could see the line of day sometime.

Speaker 5 (01:29:37):
Yeah, here's the path for seeing the light of day.
The DA wants murder, maybe even the death penalty, pretty
unlikely in the case where you've got a possible schizophrenia
diagnosis and medication issues and so on, but that's what
the DA wants, and that's possible. Another possibility is that
he is found guilty but of manslaughter. Now in California,

(01:29:57):
you're guilty of manslaughter and it could be six, ten, eleven,
twelve years depending on how many victims and the exact
nature of the charges. So the bottom line there is
he could actually be found guilty of manslaughter and out
in a not two large number of years and get
treatment while in the custody, get treatment out of custody.

(01:30:19):
But yeah, he could see the light of day down
the road.

Speaker 6 (01:30:23):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
So what is the betting favorite right now, Royal that
he's going to have some kind of insanity.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
Plea that he's going to enter. It was drugs, It
was that sort of thing or what.

Speaker 5 (01:30:35):
Yeah, probably insanity is a long shot because it's a
high bar in California like most other jurisdictions. The test
is did he know right from wrong? We're gonna have
all these aimlisters from the Conan O'Brien holiday party on
that Saturday night and they're going to testify. Well, yeah,
we saw Nick and he seemed weird and he was
angry and he had a dust up with Bill Hayter
from Saturday Night Live. He had an angry confrontation with

(01:30:57):
his dad. But he didn't seem out of his It
didn't seem like he thought everybody was a rhinoceros instead
of a human. There's no reason to believe he didn't
know right from wrong, And insanity is a long shot.
But if you have been diagnosed with schizophrenia, which could
create a situation where you have no touch with reality
and he's on and he's off his meds, that is

(01:31:18):
the more likely way to go. The other option I
had mentioned is the competency hearing. If he is so
far gone today, it's irrelevant what happened the day of
the murders today. If he's so far gone that he
can't help his lawyers, there's no trial because the court
system will not force somebody to go to trial if
he's bonkers and the lawyers are sitting there doing their best,
but they can't consult with him. So those are the

(01:31:39):
multiple mental health options.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Royal Oaks from ABC is with this. So Royal, I
did not realize. I assume that that level, whatever that
deciding factor is, changes from a jurisdiction to a jurisdiction.
But I did not realize you had to be like
literally having hallucinations be considered legit insane when it was

(01:32:02):
perfectly obviously everybody like you said at that party that
there was something wrong with the kid.

Speaker 5 (01:32:07):
Yeah, so when you deal with hallucinations and lack of
touch with reality. That can come and go when you
are schizophrenic, and it kind of depends on whether you're
on your meds or not. You know, we hear these
horrible stories about people who are kind of okay even
though they've been diagnosed with schizophrena because they're on their meds,
but they don't like the side effects off the meds,
and boom, now they think it's a rhinoceros. Again, that's

(01:32:30):
different from insan sanity. You know, there are different aspects
to it, but it boils down to you didn't know
right from want. So you knew it was your dad there.
You knew you're killing a human being, but in your mind,
you literally did not know that that was the wrong
thing to do. That's how far gone you were. Those
are the options for his lawyers to think about.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
All right with that, Royal Oaks, we appreciate it. I'm
sure we're going to be talking about this for a while.
Really appreciate it, you bet.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
Thanks, Thanks Royal.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
All right, Royal, thanks brought getting other news.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Yes, so I don't know if you saw this, but
I guess Peacock, which is one of the newer networks
that is, yeah, you know, has some some big football
games and what not on It's gonna be the first
streamer they've announced to integrate new Dolby products that will
quote enhance the sites and sounds of the game of

(01:33:23):
their sports broadcast. Okay quote our live streams on Peacock
are already in HDR, and we introduced Dolby ATMOS as
well last year. Blah blah blah blah blah, great sound,
great picture. And then and then it starts to dive
into a new feature that many sports fans may like.
When the AC four launches, fans will be able to

(01:33:45):
personalize how they want to listen to games, including the
option to turn off commentary and listen to crowd noise.
So if you're watching a game and say, Tony Romo
is calling it, you can bank with a button and
get him to stop talking and just listen to the play.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Why I play guy or the crowd?

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Do you remember they did that? There was one game
that they did then in an NFL game, And I
don't know how long ago was, it's certainly in the
last fifteen years. Say, but yeah, they put a game
on on Sunday and all they did was have crowd noise.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
I know ESPN does that.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
They have their like Mega cast, Like for the college
football National Championship game, they'll have like four different broadcasts
of it and ones you know, the Mega cast and
the coaches, you know, they're all kind of commentating on it.
But I've not seen where you can turn it off.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Well, see, I I don't. I'm I'm one of the
few people apparently in the world where you an announcer
has to be pretty damn bad for me to to
let that track from what I'm watching. You know, I
can turn him down low, but I don't sit. You know,
some people people are hating on college where they hate

(01:34:59):
on Romo. Those two seem to be the biggest those
are the two biggest targets.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Now, is there any any announcer that you like?

Speaker 1 (01:35:07):
I can't think of anybody. People back in the day
people hated Howard Cosell. I always thought Cosell was just
kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (01:35:15):
He's like one of the most famous right correct casters ever.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
But towards the end he was getting a little yeah yeah,
a little yes yeah. But that's when you're you know,
you're calling games and you're and apparently he drank a lot. Honestly,
God he Cozell was notoriously on the drunk one like
Monday night football.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Yeah, there's there's a couple that I don't like. I'm
not gonna say they were for my company.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Nevertheless, people don't like Collinsworth, and I never really understood
the hatred toward him.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
That's that's what gets me. I mean, I'm not because
I'm not being because he's a hometown boy or whatever,
but I think a good job I do too. Yeah,
but man, social goes nuts on Sunday night football games
when he's on.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
But that just shows you there's no one out there
that makes everybody happy. And there's people out there that
hate chocolate ice cream.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
So what can you do?

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
You know, right, Well, look, not everybody can be Eddie
and Rocky.

Speaker 2 (01:36:20):
Let's face it, correct, that's our curse.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Rocking. In other news, the only reason I bring this
up is because this kind of holds a special place
in my heart. This happened last month in Wisconsin. Officers
stopped a speeding car. The Sheriff's office said the car
was missing a front headlight as well on the driver's side,

(01:36:48):
So you know, no problem there, right, Just hey, we're
gonna get you for going sixty five and a fifty
or whatever, fair enough, and get your headlight fixed. Other
problem was the guy had put a handheld flashlight where
the headlight should have been.

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
Continueing. I got a story somewhat.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Related to me too. A flashlight is not illegal or
safe for placement for proper headlights. My my idiot brother
back this years and years ago. He couldn't have been
he was late teens probably, but he had a motorcycle
and he went I think he went to see his
girlfriend and his headlight went out when he was on

(01:37:30):
his way home. And she didn't live all that far away,
but she lived out in the country, so he had
just so happened to have a flashlight with him. So
he stuck the flashlight on the handlebars, and of course
passed a cop and hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Yeah, it didn't work.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
My mind was I had I was hauling a car,
was that I guess it was from Nashville home to Cincinnati,
and the trailer didn't have any lights on it. So
I went and bought a flashlight and taped it on
the back of the back of the trail. Yeah, just
I didn't get pulled it over, so I think I
got lucky.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
But nevertheless, see that's I uh, I don't know what
what you do in a situation like that, though.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
You gotta do what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
You gotta do what you gotta do. Yeah, yeah, but
I don't know. But like I said, my brother he
had to go to court in the whole nine yards
and uh, and there there was also a maybe he
tried to flee a little bit and realized I tried
to flee a little bit, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:38:33):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Let's put it this way, he started to and then
realized this ain't a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
That's good. Yeah, better to realize that sooner rather than later.

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
Well, you're on a country road without a headlight with
a cop chasing you.

Speaker 2 (01:38:50):
Not gonna work out.

Speaker 29 (01:38:51):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
Let me tell you something that that story hardly ever wins.
That that never ends well at all. But he you
end up like a green flash or whatever that thing
is called an Oxford that you'll.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
The Oxford light.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
And how dare you claim you saw when you were
doing it?

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Was real to me? Damn it?

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
Yeah, me too. I Bit, I've heard so much about it.
I think it's probably real.

Speaker 32 (01:39:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
With that in mind, we check in with traffic and weather,
what's going on.