Pre-Game Sports Talk with Ken Broo -- 12/7/25

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Speaker 18 (08:17):
Well, good morning, and here we go on yet another
game day. It's been a while. Bengals have not played
since Thursday night, Thanksgiving Night, and we all know how
that one went against the Baltimore Ravens. Joe Burrow is
back and so too is a tinge of hope. You
know these parameters on this The Bengals have to win
out and then need some help as well. Right now,

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in a seven team race for the playoffs, the Bengals
are currently twelve, but the magic is in the division,
and winning the division is probably, if not exclusively, their
best way into the playoffs. It begins today in Buffalo
out of division, but in conference, and of course conference
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and who stays home. They play the Bills. The Bills
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and final wild card position, two games back in the
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we know the way out.

Speaker 28 (09:47):
I mean being here before at the end of the day,
so this adversity is not off for some doing it.
You just got to start off better. In the beginning
of the season to not put ourselves in this position.

Speaker 18 (09:58):
But that's water under the proverbial bridge. Today the bridge
is closely linked to a playoff spot. We'll get into
more metaphors and things like that as we get close
to the game time. First, now, college football from last night,
the Big Ten Championship game was one of the old timers.

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Final number two thirteen. That's Indiana, Number one Ohio State
ten three point win for the Hoosiers in the Big
Ten Championship game. It is Indiana's first Big Ten championship
since nineteen sixty seven. Big plays abound. Charlie Becker stepped
up big wide receiver from Indiana, had six catches one

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hundred and twenty six one hundred and twenty six receiving yards,
including a thirty three yarder on third down that gave
the Hoosiers new life and kept the clock going late.
The Ohio State did not perform well inside the red zone.
They had a missed twenty seven yard field goal. They
failed to convert on a fourth in one from the

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Indiana five. All that boiled down to an Indiana win
and undoubtedly a number one seed when the college football
playoff rankings come out later on today. Here is their
quarterback and a man that may just be holding the
Heisman Trophy by this time next week. Here is Fernando
Mendoza on why this Indiana team is so good, so effective.

Speaker 29 (11:24):
I think it's about being process oriented and never being complacent.

Speaker 30 (11:27):
For example, when it was when we beat.

Speaker 29 (11:29):
Perdue last week fifty six to three, because they came
into Lockerham.

Speaker 18 (11:32):
Said, hey, like, it's a great win.

Speaker 29 (11:33):
We're propping up the first time in program history. However,
there's a lot there's gonna be a lot of you know,
things on film that we've got to clean up. And
I think it reverts back to the Stoke philosophy of
the never ending journey of the process and not to
be complacent. And I think what Aiden said was beautiful
of you always want to push yourself every single day,
every single play and every single rep act like it's
the like it's the final play.

Speaker 30 (11:53):
Of the game.

Speaker 29 (11:53):
I like, it's the most important play of the game,
most important play of your life.

Speaker 18 (11:57):
And I think that that has.

Speaker 29 (11:58):
Helped motivate us and propel us forward from games like Oregon,
where yeah we won, but we weren't complacent. We sild
a lot of clean up on film and the next week.
We try to get better every single week. And I
think that our whole thing is not really competing against
the opponent, which it is, but it's really competing against
ourselves to be the best version of ourselves.

Speaker 18 (12:17):
And I think that's why we're so effective. I think
that's a pretty good assessment. How about the head coach,
Kirk Signetti. Anybody could have had this guy two three
years ago. He was ready to leave James Madison, where
he built a winning program. There, my goodness, James Madison
may be in the playoffs when the rankings come out
later on today. He knows how big a win this was,
and he knows how big it is for his program.

Speaker 31 (12:39):
Well, I don't know. The time will tell. I mean,
it's hard to speculate. I think it gives us a
lot more. It was another step we needed to take
as a program. It's a great win obviously, and we're
gonna go to the playoffs as number one seed, and
a lot of people probably thought that wasn't possible. But
when you get the right people and you have a plan,
and they love one and play for one another, and

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they commit anything's possible, and I think that's what you
saw having here.

Speaker 18 (13:07):
Now they get a lot of time off to try
and get ready for the playoffs. They don't even know
who they're playing yet. There will be games played before
Indiana's next game, and the same thing for Ohio State.
Last night's loss was not devastating. Surprising in some ways,
but not devastating. The first loss of this season for
the bug guys, and they have to regroup and they
have a lot of time off. They'll most probably be

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the number two seed now heading into the college football
playoff and Ryan Day knows, Look, a loss is a loss,
but this one last night was particularly hard.

Speaker 32 (13:37):
This is a major lesson for this team is that,
you know, it can come down to one play or
two plays or three plays that decide a game like this,
and so you know, this is a tough lesson to learn.
But you know, we have to be more efficient across
the board. It can't just be you know, us doing
our job once or twice, you know, or three times.

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I mean, it's gonna be every single time. And that
didn't happen. And that starts with the coaching and then
goes from there.

Speaker 18 (14:04):
Started with the coaching and then went from there, and
the big plays simply weren't there for Ohio State like
they were up till almost every game till last night,
just simply weren't there. We talked about the breakdown inside
the red zone, played the Ohio State big last night,
the missfield goal to tie the game late in the
fourth quarter. Obviously that played into a strategy in a

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three point game, but there were other plays along the
way that they could not convert, and so afterwards the
Buckeyes were beginning were left to wonder exactly what happened
and what to do now. Like I said, they have
not this is not new terf for them. They were
in this position last year and they rallied to win
a national championship. Wide receiver Brandon Innis.

Speaker 33 (14:49):
Honestly, I'm not sure, you know. I gotta watch the
film and see everything. But we just didn't play the
best for our abilities to night.

Speaker 23 (14:56):
And we know that.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
We know we couldn't turn the ball over.

Speaker 33 (15:00):
That was on me and I take full responsibility for that,
and now we'll go get it right now.

Speaker 18 (15:06):
I thought the quarterback Julian Sayan played very well. I
thought the defense got dragged up and down the field,
and I didn't think that was all that typical for
Ohio State. You know, you do get to games where
it's just one of those nights. And quite frankly, this
was the game everybody inside the Big Ten was looking
forward to. Both both teams' fan bases were looking forward
to it. They didn't play in the regular season. They

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may play again now in the playoffs, who knows, But
this was the game really, not just inside the Big Ten,
but all through college football in the last month and
a half that just about everybody wanted to see. And
we got a good one last night, a really good one.
But now, like Kurt Signetti, who goes back to Bloomington
with his team and tries to do a couple of things. One,
get it ready for an opponent that it doesn't even

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know at this point, and also tamp down expectations, because
the last thing you want anything for a football team
at this time of the year is to get cocky. Meanwhile,
on the playing trip back to Columbus, sure Ryan Day
was already starting to strategize as to what to do next,
not just for whomever his team will play, like Indiana,

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he has no idea at this point, but what he
can do to self scout and make sure that whatever
plagued his team last night doesn't plague his team in
the next game, which will be in the playoffs. Here's
day on what's next.

Speaker 32 (16:25):
We got to get back and figure out, you know,
you know why that happened, what the issues were, and
you know, get it fixed, because you know, the season's
not over. Got a lot of football ahead of us,
and hopefully we can use this as a way to
get better as we head into the playoffs.

Speaker 18 (16:41):
Joy can do at this point, and that's all they
will be doing until after the first round of the
playoffs and then they know who the opponent will be again.
Thirteen ten final Number two Indiana beats number one Ohio State.
Expect them to flip flop in the college football rankings.
Later on this morning, in the SEC Championship game, Number
three Georgia played number nine Alabama and pretty much throttled Alabama.

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Twenty eight to seven was the final. In this game.
Georgia is now twelve and one. Alabama is ten and three,
teetering at the bottom of the college football Top twelve.
We really don't know at this point whether or not
they will be in and quite frankly, after what transpired
last night in the ACC Championship game, and what transpired

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in a couple of other Group of five conference championship games,
it may be another playoff without the Alabama Crimson. Time
we'll see Gunnar Stockton the George quarterback. Twenty of twenty six,
one hundred and fifty six yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions.
Georgia simply controlled this game. Time of possession the Dogs
thirty minute, thirty six minutes fifty two seconds, Alabama just

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twenty three minutes and eight seconds of clock time. Georgia
wins the SEC championship game. Could there be a playoff
without an ACC champion? If just Maywhite might happen. Duke
twenty seven, number seventeen Virginia twenty that was the final

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in the ACC Championship game last night. Duke is eight
and five. Duke wins its first outright ACC championship since
nineteen sixty two. Darien Menza to Jeremiah Halsey, a one
yard touchdown run on a fourth down overtime play was
what won this for Duke twenty seven to twenty in overtime.

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But it could very well mean nothing could mean that
Duke simply is an inn the college football playoff. The
coach says, how can you not put a Power five
conference champion in or not or leave them out of
the playoffs? Very easy? Your team isn't one of the
top twelve teams in the country. Congratulations on winning your
conference championship.

Speaker 8 (18:49):
Eight.

Speaker 18 (18:49):
You're eight and five In the Big Twelve championship game,
Texas Tech throttled BYU thirty four to seven. This was
a great quote after the game. Texas Tech is probably
the richest nil driven team in college football. They have

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a roster that's somewhere around twenty eight million dollars. It's
the new way of college football. You may not like it.
A lot of people don't like it. And I understand
the collegiency of college football has been extracted with nil. You're,
in essence the old Seinfeld line. You're rooting for the
uniforms because the players change almost on a yearly basis. Nevertheless,

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twenty eight million dollars goes into that Texas Tech football
roster and it translates into a thirty four to seven
win over BYU. Great line after this game. Senior linebacker
Jacob Rodriguez, he is a candidate for the Nigersky Award.
He said, if we're going to buy a team, this

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is his quote, If we're going to buy a team,
why not heee the best imagine saying that in college
football even ten years ago, Bringham Young had two hundred
total yards in this game. They were never in it.
There were two interceptions and two fumbles lost. This loss
probably knocks BYU out of the college football rankings. It should.

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They were number eleven out of twelve, and I don't
see how this keeps them in the final tally. Texas
is going to make a case for itself despite three losses.
They're thirteen going into this. Vanderbilt had a terrific season.
They are probably going to be left out. And the
other big consideration here is what about Miami? What about

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Notre Dame? Who despite the fact that each piece together
decent seasons, were at the back end of the latest
college football rankings that came out last Tuesday night. The
only one that counts comes out at noon today. So
I think at noon today, what you're going to get
is Indiana one, Ohio State two, Georgia three, Texas Tech four,

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Oregon five, and then it'll go from there. Meanwhile, in
the MAC Championship Game, Miami in it and playing in
it because of just the tie breakers that exist inside
the MAAC them a in American Conference. Toledo beat Miami
had the same conference record, did not go. Ohio University

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beat Miami had the same conference record, it did not go,
but because of record against common opponents, Miami winds up
winning its half of the MAC. Yesterday, it played in
the MAC Championship Game and Western Michigan with the win
twenty three to thirteen. Cam Perry seven receptions, one hundred
and one yards for Miami. Terrific game. Western Michigan put

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up two hundred and eighty six rushing yards in Miami
only rushed for seventy three. In a large sense, that
was the difference in the game. Miami is still going
to a bowl game, and like all the other teams
outside of the College Football Playoff, we'll find out later
today or tonight what bowlgame Miami is going to, but

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Miami will go to a bowl game after another terrific
season of coaching for Chuck Martin. I said this earlier
this week and I'll reiterate it again today. He's the
best coach in the MAC. His teams are always overscheduled
at the early part of the season. They'll take the
check from the game against the opponent from the bigger conference.

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They probably win one of those games and then position
themselves to win the MAC because of what they do
in those first three weeks. It's the same Chuck Martin
script that's been written every single season, and I fully
expect Miami to whatever Bowl game it goes to, to
play really really well. Didn't work out for him yesterday,
Western Michigan twenty three, Miami thirteen. Today is a monumental

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day for the Cincinnati Bengals. They have any hope of
going to the playoff, any smidgeon of hope, they have
to win today. It's a long road ahead no matter
which way you look at it. But when you have
to win out invariably you have to go somewhere where
conditions aren't great and the other guy is playing just
a little bit better. We'll get into this game next.

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(28:41):
In fact, the way they've got this scoped out right now,
Indiana would play the Notre Dame Oklahoma winner at Ohio
State would play the Alabama, Texas A and M winner.
But you could have a scenario today where you not
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(29:05):
period in the College football playoff. Stay tuned. The selection
show begins afternoon. We'll know probably by twelve fifteen, twelve
thirty exactly who is in The Bengals need a win today.
They need to win in every single one of their
games that's left, and then hope that a certain amount
of things fall right this scenario that, oh, well they

(29:26):
can afford one win, they can afford to lose one
of those five No, no, no, no, no no. You
never bank on an eight win team in a seventeen
game schedule getting into the playoffs, regardless of how underperforming
your conference, I'm sorry, your division may be. And Zach
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(29:48):
looking ahead, Well, what about that Miami game?

Speaker 47 (29:50):
Now?

Speaker 18 (29:50):
If you get by Baltimore next week, you can't. It's
a cliche, but Taylor knows. You got to take these
things week by week.

Speaker 48 (29:59):
The preaching to the whole team right now, it doesn't
matter what we did last week. We got to keep
doing it over and over again. And so we can't
just assume because we did some good things on Thursday
night that that's gonna curry for Sunday.

Speaker 34 (30:10):
I guys understand that.

Speaker 48 (30:11):
I think that's why we've always kind of been strong
later in the season. Our guys have had a great
approach to that, and this year's like new year, and
we're gonna have to dos to the same approach exactly.

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of the week. Today, it's the Bills. It's one o'clock,
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Bengals in a must win situation. Last night, as we
have mentioned earlier, terrific Big Ten Championship game. I don't
think anybody thought point total would be twenty three, but
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(38:11):
a scoring game, I think most people would have said, well,
the Ohio State defense carried the day. Their defense wasn't
bad at all, but Indianas was better. And now what
standing by as a man of great import, someone who
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he is handing out a major piece of hardware this

(38:32):
week O Weekend, the Bronco Nigersky Award. Of course, who
could forget Bronco Nigersky, one of the building blocks of football,
college or otherwise, and a man who was revered nationwide
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dot Com at Ohio University here now, Bill Bender, how

(38:53):
are you on this glorious Sunday?

Speaker 58 (38:56):
Hey, Ken, thanks for having me on. How are you?

Speaker 18 (38:58):
I'm well? First things first, that's the most important thing
of the day. What's happening with the Ohio University head coach?
What is going on in Athens?

Speaker 58 (39:06):
Yeah, this is a bizarre situation certainly and hopefully gets
straightened out. I mean, obviously you know not to deflect,
but you know, seeing Western Michigan win the MAC Championship.
That was a good accomplishment for them. I'm hoping the
Bobcats can get back to that next season. You know,
obviously a lot of yeah, you know, like I said,

(39:27):
a lot of weird reports coming out of there, and hopefully.

Speaker 18 (39:31):
He just disappeared. He just disappeared. I mean, nobody, nobody,
certainly nobody's talking. It is bizarre. But as you and
I both know from firsthand experience, the words athens and
bizarre are not often separated. They often intertwined quite a bit.

Speaker 59 (39:47):
Uh.

Speaker 18 (39:48):
Indiana thirteen Ohio State ten.

Speaker 40 (39:51):
Uh.

Speaker 18 (39:51):
You watched this game. I watched this game. It's the
first Big ten championship outright for Indiana's in sixty seven.
I thought Indiana's defense was terrific. They got fortuitous with
the missed field goal by Ohio State, but there were
big plays by the Indiana defense, and there was certainly
a big play on that fourth and less than the
yard inside the Ohio State five yard inside the Indiana

(40:15):
five yard line where they stopped Ohio State on Saints
quarterback sneak. I thought the difference in this game was
Indiana's defense and considering how good Ohio's defense. Ohio State's
defense is I thought that was kind of surprising to me.
What about you?

Speaker 58 (40:31):
Yeah, and getting the fourth down. Obviously, Indiana has guys.
I mean, we did our All American meeting last week,
and you know that's not revealed for a couple of weeks,
but there are several candidates from that defense, guys like
Aiden Fisher and D'Angelo Ponds. And I was wondering myself
coming into the game, Okay, what's going to be different

(40:51):
than last year? I watched Ohio State beat them by
three touchdowns last year with you know, clearly it's continuity.
I mean, I was impressed with how they just shut
down Ohio State's running game and made it made life
difficult for an offense that hadn't faced a lot of
difficulty this year.

Speaker 30 (41:08):
So uh.

Speaker 58 (41:09):
And then Fernando Mendoza, you know, his numbers weren't like
up the charts, but he didn't mess it up. He
made sure as he needed And I wasn't sure he's
gonna get off the turf after that first hit by
Cayden Curry.

Speaker 18 (41:22):
I wasn't either, and he said that there was no
way on God's green earth that he wasn't getting off
the artificial green earth on that one. He's he's a
he's a tough kid. Do you think Mendoza solidified his
chances for the Heisman or do you think he is
still a long not a long shot, but not one
of the favorites for the Heisman. Next week, I think

(41:45):
he'll win it.

Speaker 58 (41:46):
I think I don't think it's a little bit of
a muddled race. I do think it'll come down to
probably him and Diego Paviat Vanderbilt, Diego pragg get a
good chunk of the Southern boat. I'm gonna fill out
my ballot. I typically do it tomorrow morning, once the
emotion of the weekend wears off, but I would say Mendoza,

(42:07):
Pavia and then a couple other guys that will be
in the mix and be like Jeremiah Love, I love
Jacob Rodriguez, the linebacker for Texas Tech. I don't know
if the linebacker can win it, but he's as good
as linebacker as you can possibly see.

Speaker 18 (42:22):
Yeah. He also had the quote of the weekend. I
don't know if you saw this, but he said, if
we're going to buy a team, why not be the best.
They have a twenty eight million dollar roster at Texas Tech. Now,
I know there's big oil money down there, and there's
great among Texas Tech and for that matter, Texas A
and M alumni. There's great motivation to outspend and out

(42:43):
do the University of Texas at any turn. Twenty eight
million dollars to put a roster together. Bill, This is crazy,
but that's exactly where it is. And I would imagine
that twenty eight million goes a hell of a lot
farther up the scale next year, don't.

Speaker 58 (42:57):
You I do too well. I mean, you could argue
that it paid off because they won the Big twelve
championship and they are in position to make a run
in the playoffs, and everybody's going to be talking about
this bracket here in a couple hours. I think the
way it's going to situate is Ohio State will priorrupt
the three, so I mean Texas Tech will be number four,

(43:19):
and then you know, if the chalk holds, which didn't
last year but it might, you would theoretically get Indiana
Texas Tech on one side, and then Georgia Ohio State
on the other. So, whether it's Indiana or Texas Tech,
if they take care of their business. One of those
schools could be playing for national championship, and then at
that point it's sustainable that it was money well spent.

(43:41):
I guess. I mean, I don't throw that kind of
money around, but I don't run a college football program either.

Speaker 18 (43:47):
Yeah. I mean, if it does fall that way, you
could get in the final Ohio State, Indiana you got
a rematch in the final, right.

Speaker 58 (43:55):
It very well could and or you know, the team
that I think is going to get into that actually
be wrong because one of them has to get squeezed
out between Notre Dame, Miami and Alabama. And the way
we did it at Sporting News, I put Notre Dame in,
Miami in. If they put Alabama in over one of
those schools, I'm not going to say, oh boy, I

(44:15):
was wrong, because it would just mean I was dumb
because I didn't believe that they would give Alabama preferential treatment.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Again, you know what I mean.

Speaker 58 (44:25):
They all three have an argument. I understand it, but
I know how committees work, and sometimes they take the
compromise and they get Miami and acc team in, they
get Notre Dame in, and they penalize Alabama a little
bit for getting beat by three touchdown.

Speaker 18 (44:40):
What if they squeeze the ACC. I mean there's a
real case for both James Madison and two lane, And
in fact, some brackets this morning have James Madison in
two lane, twelve and eleven.

Speaker 58 (44:53):
I think they'll be the five highest rank conference champion.
So the squeeze, that's why I think Miami is going
to get in.

Speaker 18 (45:00):
At Alabama at Alabama's expense, is what you're saying.

Speaker 58 (45:05):
And I think that's the politics of this playoff, you
know what I mean, Like, yes, the ACC might not
have a team in a couple takeaways from that, ken
One probably should revise the tiebreaker scenarios to make sure
like they can't have a five lost spoiler. Again, Miami
probably should have been playing in that a SEC championship game.

(45:26):
Two conference championships got to go. I've said it. I
liked the weekend. It's not that I don't like watching
more football, it's they just don't. They don't pair well
with this playoff because yeah, Alabama will have an argument.
They'll be like, well, we just won't play in it
because if it's going to cost us a playoff first,

(45:47):
and there's some validity to that too. So my solution
is pretty simple. Let's go to sixteen, get rid of
the conference championship games, play the first two rounds on campus,
and then go from there. Make your product as compelling
as possible. There's a league that plays today that does
that pretty well.

Speaker 18 (46:06):
Yes, it does. The other option is if you if
you're insistent upon playing these conference championship games because they
are money makers, that's the reason why the conferences have
gone to these in the first place, then why not
give the team in your conference a buy and they
don't play in the championship game, and you have your

(46:27):
second and third place teams play in these championship games
or call them whatever you want, and in essence, what
they're playing for is either a playoff ranking somebody in
the field of twelve, or they're playing for the next
highest bowl game that they can get into. But you
exempt your best team, so your best team represents you

(46:47):
in the field of twelve. What about that theory?

Speaker 58 (46:50):
You know, when I first heard this, I thought it
was absurd, but now it's starting to make more sense.
If you want, if you really want money on this week,
you know, play a three, six and a four or
five game and four Big Ten teams get in. Tony
TD actually might have a decent idea there, I just
but I still don't. Here's what I would just take

(47:14):
the top sixteen at the end of the regular season.
If if it's a year where the ACC is down
and they only have one, so be it. You know,
like this year.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
If it's.

Speaker 58 (47:25):
A year where the Big Ten has three or six,
we can move it around. But you can't tell me
when you look at the final sixteen teams in the
rankings today versus what the playoff is and you're gonna say, man,
that one would be better. You know, you would get
Texas and you would get Miami in. You would have
an incentive. Much like I always say, Ken Ohio High School,

(47:45):
the way that they do their their high school playoffs
pretty good. I like the computer system. It rewards you
for stepping up and it doesn't penalize you for playing
the tough schedule.

Speaker 18 (47:55):
It's right exactly. I've always been a big proponent of that.
Another level outside of high school football. Bill Bendersportingnews dot
Com our guest. We got a massive game from the
Bengals standpoint today in Buffalo. They have to win. The
Bills are a team that has been giving the ball
away quite a bit over the last four weeks. It's
supposed to be cold and snowy, snow to some extent

(48:18):
in Buffalo. Buffalo needs this game because they still think
and they still do have a shot at catching New
England for the AFC East title. I'm just wondering your
thoughts of a Bengals team backed up against the wall,
but with Joe Burrow back against a Buffalo team that
always plays well at home that's had trouble controlling the football.

(48:39):
What do you think on this one today?

Speaker 58 (48:42):
Anything goes Buffalo. I kind of as I've watched them
this season when they're home run swing the super Bowl,
but they're just very inconsistent, like you said, and Joe
Burrow trying to lead this run as they play like
they did against the Ravens, that will be interesting. You've
had the upper hand in the game against the Bills
to this point. It's an opportunity for certain whether the

(49:06):
able weather plays a role in that. The last time
they played there in the weather it didn't matter at all.
So if the defense holds up on the back end
and Joe Burrow continues to do what Joe Burrow does.
He will be making an appearance in a list I
have coming later this week. It's a big debate in
the Sporting News office. We ranked the last twenty five
Heisman winners since two thousand and you know, there's a

(49:28):
considerable back and forth between Burrow and Cam Newton in
twenty ten. I've always leaned Burrow, but there's a lot
of people picking Cam on that one.

Speaker 18 (49:37):
Are you doing body of work or just like best season?

Speaker 58 (49:40):
How are you doing that the best Heisman Trophy season?
And you know you got a factor of the playoff
in right, because I had six thousand yards. His college
Heisman year stats are literally insane if you really look
at him.

Speaker 18 (50:00):
Yeah, wow, yeah, I mean absolutely, Cam Newton was was phenomenal.
I don't think that you're you know that that's that's
the start of the great debate. You're only going back
twenty five years. You're going back to ninety, right, You're
going back to ninety on this right, two thousand.

Speaker 58 (50:19):
So we got that's why we're already twenty five years
into this somehow. So we had some fun with it,
and you know, there's a lot of good players on
that list.

Speaker 23 (50:29):
You know, you go back and.

Speaker 18 (50:30):
Look, Carson Palmer's on that list.

Speaker 58 (50:33):
A lot of Lincoln Riley quarterback and US quarterback. Yeah,
it's a fun list, but you know, Newton and Burrow
will generate a lot of discussion. I think Fernando ultimately
will probably join that list. But just never know, this
is a This isn't quite as open and shut as
it was with Travis Hunter last year.

Speaker 30 (50:53):
No, it's not.

Speaker 18 (50:54):
And to be honest with you, you're talking about I mean,
if you're going to line up numbers and who did what?
I mean, you're you know, Tim Tebow's numbers weren't outstanding,
but it was his sophomore year. But nobody could nobody
could deny the fact that that guy was one of
the great leaders of a team in the last twenty

(51:17):
five years. Troy Smith, my gosh, what great numbers for
him back in twenty oh twenty oh six, I believe,
I mean there's but I mean again, and Carson Palmer,
who might have been the most accurate quarterback of the
last twenty five years, to me, would be somebody that
I think would merit strong consideration. But you have some

(51:39):
other guys in there maybe that you know, it was
a lean year and they wound up as the guy.
But we'll see. I'll look forward to that, and I'll
look forward to what you're putting together here at the
end of this week too. But Bill Bender, tomorrow night,
good luck. You're handing out the Nagursky Award, of which
the man that we talked about just a few minutes ago,
Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech, could very well beholding it.

(52:01):
Do you have your tuxedo, do you have your introduction speech?
You're gonna tell some jokes or do you just get
on and get off the stage? How does that work?

Speaker 2 (52:10):
We'll find out tomorrow.

Speaker 58 (52:11):
I bet we have the meeting tonight. When I get
into Charlotte, I do have a tuxedo. It does fit.
I am one of those guys that gets out of
it as soon as possible, though, like it's I gotta
get it, you know, get in my warm up pants
and get ready to go to watch. But no, it's
an honor to do it. I really appreciate you mentioning
and and I don't get nervous. I'll have a lot

(52:31):
of fun tomorrow down in Charlotte. Brian Bossworth, the keynote speaker,
he could play a little bit of linebacker two by
the way.

Speaker 18 (52:37):
You could that's a man that's calmed down later in life.
What what what? What work? Can we see you? Where
is this available? Is available on some sort of channels
at ESPN. What does it avail all?

Speaker 58 (52:46):
I think it's being streamed.

Speaker 60 (52:48):
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For the Patriots, they lead the AFC East by two games.
That's what the Bills are trying to catch. Patriots have
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for the Bengals today, well here's the key. They got
all those turnovers against Baltimore last week, five of them,
and according to the team, according to people like Jordan Battle,
let the turnovers keep on coming today in Buffalo.

Speaker 15 (01:08:13):
You know, just you know, having awareness with the ball.

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You know, it's obviously it's gonna be cold out there,
you know, Uh, so that the ball might be a loose,
I mean, it might be a little loose, you know,
to get the balls a little hard in your hands.
So you know, you have to take advantage of that,
you know, as a defense, it's gonna be snow, it's
gonna be cold. Uh, the ball might be coming out
fast and might be able to opportunities for tip picks.
For the balls in the air. So you know, we's
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that we get.

Speaker 18 (01:08:37):
Get that ball away, turn that ball over, get Joey
b good field position. Always a strategy on defense. You
probably saw this week that the two thousand and twenty
six Pro Football Hall of Fame finalists were released, and
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And among the three finals for the players, our former
Pittsburgh Steelers defensive end Else Greenwood, former San Francisco forty
nine or running back Roger Craig, and our own quarterback
Ken Anderson. Ken Anderson should have been in the Hall
of Fame ten years ago. He is now a finalist,

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and the chances of him getting into Canton next year
are not good. They're not good. They simply aren't because
the voting system was changed by the Pro Football Hall
of Fame, and why, well, let's find out somebody who
has a vote. We don't know if he's voting for
Anderson or not, but he seems to talk very well

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about him. Is someone who has been around a long
time and knows exactly what this Pro Football Hall of
fame is all about and who should be in because
he's a student of the game, even at an advanced age.
He's a good guest of this program. He's our good
buddy who's covered many NFL teams over the course of
his career. He is Clark judge. Let's bring them in.

Speaker 15 (01:10:01):
Clark.

Speaker 18 (01:10:02):
How are you on this glorious game day.

Speaker 78 (01:10:04):
Well, I'm doing well, Thanks very much, can't thanks for
that intro. Yeah, it's confusing because they changed the process
and the rules and process last year. So what we
used to have was a separate seniors committee, a coach
slash contributor committee, and then we separated the coach and
the contributors to the three subcommittee, and we bring out

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three seniors, a coach, and a contributor, but they would
be separate finalists voted on separately. So the seniors voted
against each other, and the coaches and the contributors voted independently.
And if you've got eighty percent of the vote, each
semi voted to those three seniors each got eight percent
of the votes. They're in. The coach eight percent, he's in,

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the contributed a percent he's in. They changed that last year.
They say no, we're going to consider them all together,
all five together, and take the top three. However, top
three each has to have eighty percent of the vote.
And as you know, in the first year of implementation,
which is this year that didn't happen, only one of

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those five individuals got eighty percent of the vote. That
was Stirling Chubb. So people like my phone grin Ralph
he is the founder of the league founded, not in
and didn't get in, and so we really have one
individual who got in. So it's confusing, confusing some of
the voters, and so we finally will walk through it.
But that's the way it goes. Now you have five people.

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Now Ken Anderson is one of the five, but he'll
be considered along with Els Greenwood and Roger Craig. Those
are the three seniors, and then he'll be considered votes
three will be considered along with Bill Belichick the coach,
and Robert Kraft, the contributor. Finals. You're going to take
three of those five. So what happened last year was
they cannibalized each other, and if you do the math,

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you can kind of figure out why this year maybe
it won't be that way because there's a feeling that
Craft and belichicking are sort of slamm dunk maybe I
don't know. Well, that then means you're only what one senior,
but he has to get eighty percent of the vote.
And again, they could cannibalize each other so that you
have only let's say Raft in Belichick vote. That's the

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way it goes.

Speaker 18 (01:12:11):
Conceivably you could have no one. Am I right? If
no one get conceivably the class could have no one.

Speaker 78 (01:12:17):
Yeah, I don't know that that's the case. I would
have to go back and read the fine print.

Speaker 58 (01:12:23):
Again.

Speaker 78 (01:12:23):
I don't think that's the case. But you know, i'd
say out sensibly the teams that way. I know when
these rules are drawn up. I had a historian call
me and say, you know what's gonna happen. You're going
to get no more than maybe four people for the
entire class. And he was frightening.

Speaker 58 (01:12:40):
Now we have four people for the fire fall third.

Speaker 78 (01:12:42):
Past years we had seven. So so that when you
talk about Ken Anderson, that's going to be the concern
here if you assume Belichick and Craft are going to
get in, and some people do this and push back
on either and it's not that it's not or both.
But it's not worth going into some perspective. I don't
think enough to consider that they're going to not get

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twenty percent or eighty percent of that vote that the
roll if you had twenty five percent vote against and
you think that's possible, I don't. So you go, there's
two spots that are taken. So now we got one,
and of those three, that individual has to get eighty
percent or more, and it's only one you can't have.
Let's say you're not going to have all three get
a eight percent, but let's just say it's Roger Craig,

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but he got seventy five percent not getting in. And
so those three guys, as I said, could scandibalize each other.
That happened last year or for the reason still in charge.
One convinced got in because he was a recent guy
and people kind of say, look at that record, oh yeah,
he should get in, all right, but you know what happened.
He was the only one of five. Did that happen again,

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I don't think so that was crafted in felicheck up.

Speaker 18 (01:13:48):
So the maximum number that could come out of this
when you factor in the contributor, the coach and the
senior committee players, The maximum that could get in would
be three. Three, is that what we're saying Raft? Okay, correct?
And so we're thinking here that Kraft and Belichick could
both go in together. Obviously, that would be one of

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the finest That would be one of the greatest shots
in the world of Belichick and Craft together on a stage,
regardless of where it is. But over and above that,
you've got Anderson, Craig and Greenwood. I mean, all three
of them are deserving to be in the Hall of Fame.
But only one of those three then would would then
be able to qualify. So there's no way you're going

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to get two players out.

Speaker 78 (01:14:30):
Of there, right, No no way. And that one person
has to have eighty percent of the votes. He doesn't,
he's not getting in. So let's just say, and you know, Ken,
we're on a time to stay. But let's just say
you like Pelichick and Craft, you go, I want to
put the men, So you vote for Greenwood.

Speaker 58 (01:14:47):
Okay, I say the.

Speaker 78 (01:14:47):
Same thing, But I'm voting for Craig, someone else is
voting for somebody else's voting for He's voting for Ken Anderson.
He's okay, we're all I mean, so we're what we're
doing is we're first in those three votes, so they
none of them can get eighty percent and and so
you're left with nothing. And that wasn't the intention. But

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just you know, read the tea leaves to we's getting chafted.
The seniors are. You know, they're far more qualified seniors
than there are qualified coaches and contributors. And I've said
for a long time now, since they change this process,
let's do what we did when we consider them all together,
be way back when, but the seniors, coaches and contributors

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all in the same market and in the same back
and basically and pull out the top three. Okay, and
there's some years, and there'll be plenty of years when
you don't have a contributor, you don't have a coach,
because they just aren't that many. They're over fifty all
decades players who are sitting there who've never discussed. And
that's why Ken Anderson's an anomaly. He has been discussed.

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He was discussed as a modern ear candidate back in
ninety six to ninety eight. He hasn't been discussed in them.

Speaker 18 (01:15:57):
Yeah, well, okay, okay, there's the what was the idea
behind them. I mean, would why would it change? Were
there too many people going in? Why would they change
the process.

Speaker 78 (01:16:07):
There was a feeling among some people, and I'd say
probably some Hall of famer's voice it. As we know,
Dion Standers is one of them, that there were people
they didn't feel we're qualified who got into the prof
Hall of Fame. They thought we were letting some people
in who weren't necessarily a Hall of Fame qualified. I
would say, I don't necessarily disagree with that, but I

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thought it was a valid point and some that should
have been considered that all of a sudden we went
from one end of the spectrum to the other. And
it happened because the Hall of Fame I think, was
responsive to what they were saying and heard this from
other people and said, okay, we probably should up the
bar a little bit. But they upped it so far

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that the seniors now have a tough time getting in.
Whereas you know before, when Jim Porter took over, he
listened to us saying, there's so many qualified seniors, we
need to get more than one in. Each year was one,
and then two, and one and then two. They did
it every of the year of the into but he said, Okay,
we're gonna do a maximumber three hawlllujah. And and so

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now we got in people like Ken Riley we should
have been in. Okay, then Riley gets in. But but
now if Keim Riley comes up under this kind of
strategy and this kind of scenario, he's going to have
a tough time getting in. You if you had him
in this year's plaff, you know, haven't helped the guys
going against Bill Belichick and Robert Croft, because I think
there is going to be just a maximum one guy.

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And I would say, honestly written out bright to bet
let's say being Craft and Belichick and maybe maybe the
one that would be Roger Craig because he's more recent.
There is a recency bias for me that bothers them.
And if I think if you look at the history
of what we're doing here, to apply uh as a
senior and played before nineteen seventy, you need not apply

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because you're not getting in, not getting in, And there
are plenty of guys and you and I are all
enough to remember Del Shaffer, Jimmy Pang now Wizards guys
who should be in, and they just don't get anymore.

Speaker 18 (01:18:09):
Del Schaffner was a wonderful wide receiver, had some medical
issues during his career and played through them. I thought
he was thought it was great. Elsie Greenwood. I mean,
I hate to say it's sitting in Cincinnati. He was
a massive talent along that Steelers and Craig you know,
wins a suit he wanted. You might have went on
two super Bowl winning teams. Three there you go. I

(01:18:31):
only had him on one three super Bowl winning teams.
All right, well, we'll hold We'll keep our fingers crossed
for Ken Anderson. Willie Anderson is still up. I think, Uh,
he was progressing through the product voting process and getting
in these rooms closer to it. Uh do you hold
out hope for him this year or what do you
think about Willie?

Speaker 78 (01:18:50):
I hold out hope, but because of this process and
I don't know what's going on anymore. I mean, we
used to say, okay, we're putting five modern era guys
at night five and that's generally was eight people. It
was five modern era guys and three seniors and or
coach eight. But then we go we go to and

(01:19:10):
we went to FORBI because the projects had changed. So yeah,
you want to make it tougher. He did make it tougher.

Speaker 18 (01:19:15):
Yeah, and confusing for the population. You know, the general
populus just absolutely crazy. We're chatting with Clark Judge. Okay,
we got Bengals Bills today. There are two key games
that I'm looking at today. One is Pittsburgh and Baltimore.
That's in Baltimore, and of course today it's Bengals and Bills.
We'll leave the Pittsburgh Baltimore game aside. Bengals and Bills.

(01:19:36):
Burrows back, it's in Buffalo. They match up pretty well
with Buffalo. Buffalo doesn't have us. It's big, passing, catching
tight end. They've turned the ball over a lot in
the last four games, but still in all, they got
James Cook and they've got the best rushing offense in
the NFL. How do you see this thing playing out?

Speaker 78 (01:19:56):
I see it as they must win for the Bengals.
I think they've got a chance. I always like Buffle
at home, always do because they've got Josh Allen, and
I think Josh Allen is Superman. But you guys have
got Superman.

Speaker 18 (01:20:09):
Also.

Speaker 78 (01:20:09):
When you watch Joe Burrow come back, the impact he
has on a ball club, all you can do is
watch that game last weekend and the defense is playing
much better or yeah, I'm playing better because not on
the field all the time, and Joe Burrow's moving that
club up and down the field. And I said this
to you before we went on the air. I absolutely
love to watch him play. But I love everything about

(01:20:29):
this guy. How many people would have come back from
that injury before they were supposed to and say, oh,
why would I think back for a team that's going nowhere?
Because I love this game and I'm getting paid a
lot of money to play a kid's game. His attitude,
it's got to be something that really has an impact
on every one of those people in the locker room
and they go, you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Know what, we got a shot.

Speaker 78 (01:20:51):
Now, it's a long shot. They have to win this game, obviously,
but you look at the rest of the schedule, they
could last the field. And as you mentioned that Steelers
Ravens game, that's a big win because, as you also
mentioned earlier, you can't afford for one of those teams
this sweet. Both of them are on their heels, and
there's so much on the heels of people in Pittsburgh

(01:21:11):
are saying, hey, it's a time for Mike Tomlin to
go and Ben Roethlisberger say, I think it is. I mean,
that's the team that's sort of been dis array, but
the Ravens didn't look any good last week into the Bengals.
It's a different Bengals team with Joe Burrow, and it
should be because he's a senior and elite quarterback. I
think I still, as I said, I favored Buffalo at

(01:21:34):
home only because shot jall On five plays the win there.
And and I realized, you know, a couple of years
ago whenever it was that the Bengals didn't win. But
you've got a pressure Burrow. You've got to if you
can't pressure Burrow, fix you a part. But I probably
like the Bills here. I would love love to see
the Bengals get it because it's a great story. What

(01:21:54):
what Joe Burrow is doing is a great story, whether
it win or lose it. He's coming back with what
he did terrific. I just I admire the guys.

Speaker 18 (01:22:02):
Yeah, and it's a big game for the Bills too.
I mean, they got their heels dug in. They still
think they got a shot at catching New England. So
there's there's a little bit on the line for them
in this game today as well. All right, Clark, we'll
see how this all plays out with the Hall of
Fame in the next couple of weeks. Uh, you have
a great holiday and hopefully you know I can talk
again closer as we get to the voting. Thanks.

Speaker 58 (01:22:22):
I look forward to it.

Speaker 78 (01:22:23):
And did I confuse you subsicion?

Speaker 18 (01:22:27):
Well, I'm a man who is easily confluted. Confused, Clark,
So the ball was really really low for me there with.
But but yes you did. But nevertheless, we'll figure it out. Thanks.

Speaker 58 (01:22:36):
I got my job done.

Speaker 30 (01:22:38):
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Speaker 79 (01:22:40):
You bet.

Speaker 18 (01:22:42):
The Bengals have to win today. I think the other
thing that has to happen, and I don't want to
get too far ahead of this thing, but Baltimore plays
Pittsburgh today. They play the Ravens or the Ravens play
the Steelers again at the end of the season final game.
That game against the Ravens will be in Pittsburgh. They
got two games left home and home.

Speaker 8 (01:23:04):
You don't want.

Speaker 18 (01:23:06):
Whoever wins today to win again the last game of
the season. You don't want to sweep by either the
Ravens or the Steelers. You don't want it sweep gets
that team to eight wins, and if that's a sweep,
Pittsburgh's got a game at home against Miami. Yeah, they

(01:23:27):
got to play Cleveland. Yeah, they got to go to Detroit.
You don't want that. Baltimore, you don't want them to sweep.
After today they come here, then they play the Pats
not easy at green Bay, and then that game with Pittsburgh.
You don't want one of those teams to sweep. You
don't want them to get to eight wins. And then
all have to they all only have to figure out

(01:23:48):
that one team that gets a only has to figure
out to get one more. But that's a lot of
that that that's so far in advance, it's it's kind
of crazy. Your eyeballs will rule in the back of
your head if you too much time on this stuff.
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Speaker 85 (01:28:48):
That's a guy you cannot take for granted, especially when
he scrambling and make it plays on his feet. Got
a great big arm that people know about, and he'll
make you pay for it if you're not plastering. So
just it goes back to you know again, as I
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Yes, when he talks about plastering, he is not talking
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one of twenty nine, three hundred and two yards, two touchdowns,
throwing one touchdown, rushing aj Green as they say, went
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It is the RNL Terriers pregame Show. It's presented by
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We count out of the Bengals and the Bills. Bengals
have to win out, but they got to win the
day to win out right. I mean when a coach
says take it one game at a time, this is

(01:37:48):
exactly what he means. So okay, Joe Burrow, you're back,
second game back from your toe injury. How do you
win this one.

Speaker 30 (01:37:57):
Same way you win any game?

Speaker 88 (01:37:58):
Just discipline, winning the turnover battle, playing smart, playing physical,
and going about your business each and every day trying
to get better. There's no secret formula. You just got
to go through the process week to week and attack
the plan with intensity and understand it. Understand it to
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in front of the world, and that's that's what we
plan to do.

Speaker 18 (01:38:22):
Well, let's see if that's what happens. Let's see if
that's what happens, we.

Speaker 8 (01:38:26):
Hope, we hope.

Speaker 18 (01:38:28):
Time now to look for the important piece in this game.
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a questionable starter at right tackle, Spencer Brown. Dalton Kinkay.
Their talented tight end is questionable. Although we're told he
is going to try and give it a go, he's
got a knee problem. So you got the right side
of that Bill's offensive line a little banged up, if

(01:39:11):
not suspect, I think this is going to be a
game where it might be the Bengals defensive front that
will carry this team. Now you're gonna say that's crazy.
They don't have Trey Hendricks and nobody have Joseph Asai,
who is terrific against the Ravens on Thursday night of

(01:39:35):
last week, Miles Murphy, who has been an underachiever up
until about the last two games in his time here
in Cincinnati. This is a door opener for both of
these guys. If Osai can keep bringing it and can
contain the quarterback Josh Allen from getting outside the pocket,

(01:39:59):
it's going to a long way in the Bengals winning
this game. So every piece is important, there's no question
about it. But if you're looking for two, I just
gave you to Miles Murphy Joseph Osai against a line
that the Bills have when healthy is a tad suspect,

(01:40:22):
but now with their right tackle and their best tight
end not I think that's that's worth keeping an eye
on today. It's among five games that our buddy from
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Let's bring them in, Lee Sterling, how are you on
this glorious game day.

Speaker 89 (01:40:50):
I'm great, well, not so great about watching the Miami Dolphins,
my team and the Jets, So we'll leave that one out.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
With that one out, so, uh, this was probably going
to take at.

Speaker 18 (01:41:04):
The other five and seven. They're still hanging around, aren't they?
The Dolphins?

Speaker 89 (01:41:08):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 79 (01:41:10):
But I have a nephew.

Speaker 89 (01:41:11):
He when the Dolphins went one in fifteen that one
year and Cleo Lemon led them to the win against
the Ravens, you're.

Speaker 30 (01:41:19):
Ready for this.

Speaker 89 (01:41:19):
He predicted they were going to go sixteen and oh
that year. Every single week the Dolphins continue to win.

Speaker 79 (01:41:26):
He sends me a picture, you know.

Speaker 18 (01:41:28):
Of all the teams and the Dolphins in the hunt.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Still mathematically in the hunts.

Speaker 79 (01:41:34):
So I might take a sedative before that came out.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
What I'm going to do is that's one of the games.

Speaker 79 (01:41:39):
That's one of the.

Speaker 89 (01:41:40):
Games I'll tape and watch a day or two later.

Speaker 18 (01:41:42):
There you go, Well, here's a good one. We got
the six and six Dealers at the six and six Ravens.
Ravens are giving five and a half. Baltimore, as we
both know, was awful against the Bengals a couple of
weeks ago, but they were awful against Pittsburgh last year
in that in that wild card game. The thing that
them was that rushing yards. They rushed for two hundred
and ninety nine against the Steelers, Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh takes the

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ball away, and Baltimore turned it over five times against
the Bengals. So here they are at home the Ravens
giving five and a half.

Speaker 89 (01:42:13):
What do you think, Well, I don't think they're going
to go all of a sudden from turning ball over
five times to none.

Speaker 79 (01:42:19):
But with a couple of takeaways.

Speaker 18 (01:42:20):
Steelers don't have to run the ball here.

Speaker 89 (01:42:22):
They're only running the ball for ninety seven yards per game,
which is twenty seventh in the NFL out of thirty
two teams. Even when they doubled.

Speaker 79 (01:42:30):
It that rushing output at Chicago.

Speaker 89 (01:42:32):
They still found a way to lose the game here.
But I can't trust Baltimore either. What these two teams,
they're sitting at six and six. They remind me of
like race horses, you know that had better days and
they're running around the track.

Speaker 18 (01:42:47):
At six and six.

Speaker 79 (01:42:48):
You need to stay alive.

Speaker 89 (01:42:49):
And they're kind of looking back and they're like, oh,
Bengals are four and eight, we better get y up
a little bit. If they win, we could be in trouble.
I think Baltimore will find a way to win the
game year twenty seven to twenty three, But I think
the right side might be to take Pittsburgh plus the
six and a half.

Speaker 18 (01:43:06):
So take take the Steelers and the points. Ravens, though
win the game, which again would put them a leg
up in the AFC North. I didn't see this until
I actually researched this next one eight and four Colts,
eight and four Jags or meeting in Jacksonville to day,
Jags are getting points point and a half. Indianapolis hasn't
won in Jacksonville since twenty fourteen. Since twenty fourteen, that's

(01:43:29):
just an amazing history. Here's Jacksonville, one of the top
ranked defenses in the NFL, and the Colts have lost
two in a row. Man, this could be tough sledding
again for the Colts.

Speaker 28 (01:43:39):
Huh.

Speaker 18 (01:43:41):
Well, that's what I thought.

Speaker 89 (01:43:42):
And I'm looking at the game and I'm saying, well, okay,
and I watched last week. Indianapolis had some horrible calls
against them, and officiating was terrible in their game against
the Texans. I mean three or four calls that clearly
either shouldn't have been called or went the other way.
So that being said here, I still think they're very talented.

(01:44:02):
I know Sauce isn't playing he's going to be out
a little bit. But bottom line is they can run
and throw the football well, and Jacksonville they need to
have the running game to set up play action in
their passing game. On top of that, one key starters
out for Jacksonville on the offensive line, and they might
be missing another two. There are some game time decisions there.

(01:44:24):
We'll see if they come out and they're able to
give it a go. But I think they're compromised there
a little bit here. I like Indianapolis. Here they're begging you,
begging you to take Jacksonville. They're saying you get a
home underdog. They're getting one and a half points. They
have won ten straight. Don't fall for the trap, Indianapolis,
the right team is favored twenty.

Speaker 18 (01:44:45):
Seven to twenty twenty seven to twenty Indy. Okay, I'll
put the calls at nine and four. The AFC South,
it's a phenomenal division this year. I mean it's so competitive.
You got the Texans at seven and five. Here they
are today at the Tree said six and six. Chiefs
are giving the Texans three. Kansas City's fighting for its
playoff life. I mean currently they're riding tenth leg and

(01:45:07):
out of the money. But here they are giving three
and they haven't looked good and a Texans team that
has a defense that will just maul you. What do
you think.

Speaker 79 (01:45:18):
I'm going to take a different approach to this game.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Okay, and here's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 89 (01:45:22):
So most people look at this game, they'll say Patrick
my homes Oh is an e wonderful. They're gonna say CJ. Stroud,
he's a top ten quarterback. Totals forty two. We just
need a twenty three to twenty game.

Speaker 8 (01:45:35):
We'll take the over.

Speaker 79 (01:45:36):
Well, you got a Houston defense might be the best.

Speaker 89 (01:45:40):
In the NFL right now.

Speaker 79 (01:45:42):
You have a Kansas City.

Speaker 89 (01:45:43):
Defense top five, top six, led by Steve Spagnola, one
of the greatest defensive coordinators there ever has been.

Speaker 2 (01:45:49):
And you have both teams.

Speaker 89 (01:45:51):
Offensive lines aren't good Houston because they're a bottom five
offensive line.

Speaker 79 (01:45:57):
In Kansas City because the injuries.

Speaker 18 (01:45:59):
They might playing some.

Speaker 89 (01:46:00):
Guys today, but we're on the practice squad a week
or two ago.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
So with those I think poors offensive lines.

Speaker 89 (01:46:10):
And also whether it's gonna be cold, I mean it's
gonna be low twenty for this game, windy, rainy.

Speaker 2 (01:46:17):
I think it's gonna limit the quarterbacks here.

Speaker 79 (01:46:20):
Don't fall for the trap.

Speaker 89 (01:46:21):
Another game, people will play the over, go the under
forty two total points here in City Houston.

Speaker 18 (01:46:27):
Take the under. Take the under in this game. Okay, yeah,
a lot. I don't know. I have a lot of
friends in Philly and they're so uneasy about this Eagles team,
and I'm thinking, I'm thinking myself, well, okay, I know
that they didn't play the run real well against the Bears.
Bears ran for almost three hundred yards. But they're playing
a Chargers team today out in LA. Chargers are giving

(01:46:50):
or getting two and a half. They're getting two and
a half. And Herbert just had like fracture surgery out
his left hand Monday. It looks like he's going to play.
Why should the Chargers, I mean, I understand why they're
getting points because of that. Why should Eagles fans feel
a lot easy about this game?

Speaker 89 (01:47:07):
Well they should because they're going to be without one
of their starting defensive tackles, maybe their top two or
top three player on the team, and Jaylen Carter he's
out and the.

Speaker 18 (01:47:16):
Offense can't do anything.

Speaker 79 (01:47:17):
I mean, this is a game with.

Speaker 89 (01:47:19):
Where I'm going to take another different approach.

Speaker 30 (01:47:21):
We haven't done this.

Speaker 89 (01:47:22):
I don't know if we've ever given out two unders,
but I think this is a dead under here. I
think the Chargers are going to play it safe their
offensive line. They don't want to take a chance with
a pass rush of Philadelphia. You know, Jalen Phelps came
over from the Dolphins and he's paying dividends. But this
total year is at forty one. I think both teams

(01:47:45):
just want to make sure they don't turn the ball over.
They want to protect their quarterbacks here. Both teams can't
push the ball down the field here, and both special
teams question marks also under forty one total points here,
I think we're going to see like a seventeen thirteen game.
Either way, Why take a chance when you might have
seven to ten points of leeway here with a total

(01:48:07):
or second.

Speaker 18 (01:48:08):
Under of the show under take the total is forty one.
Take the under. Well, that just leads us into December.
Here we are the first games of December. Now, Paramount Sports,
you guys love to hang a tag on these months,
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Paramount Sports?

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
Double down December?

Speaker 89 (01:48:27):
So do you want to hop on board with us
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eleven weeks. Let me repeat that, thirty seven wins, just
seventeen losses and one tie.

Speaker 18 (01:48:41):
The last eleven weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
We won nine of the eleven weeks. A couple of
them have been five to oho and.

Speaker 18 (01:48:47):
Four and one weeks.

Speaker 79 (01:48:48):
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And again for that one ninety seven, what do you get?

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You get five selections today, my top five plays at
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Sunday the next four Sundays, going all the way into
the new year.

Speaker 30 (01:49:22):
That's great, it's great.

Speaker 18 (01:49:24):
This is a big game for the Bengals today in Buffalo.
The Bills are giving five and a half. Buffalo turns
the ball over a lotly. I mean, they've had six
in their last ten eleven turnovers in their last four
and Josh Allen has had six of them. Cincinnati's defense
look good, got admitted against Baltimore. But I think James

(01:49:45):
Cook may have a big day here. It seems like
Buffalo's got the best rush offense in the NFL. It's
going to be cold, it's in Buffalo. Huge game for
the Bengals and they survive Cook running wild on the
field there.

Speaker 89 (01:50:00):
Well, I have him in my fantasy and he's been
the one that's kept me in the top three in
my fantasy league.

Speaker 79 (01:50:05):
So I do you know? Obviously, I know that he is.

Speaker 89 (01:50:10):
That good and he is someone running and catching the
ball right now. He's in top two, top three in
the league.

Speaker 18 (01:50:16):
He is that deadly. But they taught a lot of weaknesses.

Speaker 89 (01:50:20):
I don't think their offensive line is top tier. I
think the receivers get very little separation and drop balls,
and then their defense. They've had a ton of injuries
here and they're hot and cold. I mean, they've had
some good weeks. They had a great game planning and
plays called by Joe Brady last week against a team

(01:50:41):
that was giving him the run, daring him to run
the football and laying back for the past. So what
did they do they take what they were given. But
I still don't think Buffalo's top three team in the
ANFC and Joe Burrow on the field. Cincinnati number one
in time of possession on the road, so they control

(01:51:01):
the ball in the clock. For some reason, the defense
plays better when Joe Burrow starts. I think they're more
inspired and they hustle around a little more. And that's
a lot what defense is about.

Speaker 18 (01:51:12):
Obviously, talent is number one.

Speaker 89 (01:51:15):
But after that, it's you know, sometimes you get knocked down,
getting up off your feet and trying to make the play.
Sometimes you know when that running back or that receiver
is trying to get loose here. So I like the
match up here one team favorite Bengals pull off the
socker here thirty to.

Speaker 18 (01:51:32):
Twenty seven, thirty to twenty seven. Yes, sir, keeps the
hope of the dream alive.

Speaker 30 (01:51:37):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 18 (01:51:38):
Hey, Lee, have a great week. You and I will
visit next week. Until then, stay healthy.

Speaker 79 (01:51:42):
Okay, sounds good, Take care see again.

Speaker 18 (01:51:46):
Okay. So for the record, for the record, he likes
the Steelers and the points. He thinks the Ravens way
anybody likes the Steelers with the points. He wants the Colts.
He says, twenty seven and twenty Colts. Colts, who've got
to give a point and a half to the Jaguars
in that game. But he said, go with the Colts. Now,
He's got two games where the total is in play

(01:52:09):
Texas Chief, Texans Chief. He didn't pick a winner. He said,
the total is forty two. In this game, take the under.
Eagles Chargers didn't pick a winner. The total is forty one.
He said, take the under. And then he likes the
Bengals today and you don't need the points. He says,
they win straight up thirty to twenty seven. He went

(01:52:31):
three and two last week for us. Overall, with the
rest of his picks he did much better, but for
our stake last week he went three and two. See
how he does this week. Let you know next week.
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So this is going to be a collective thing. I'm
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Six of those thirteen series featured six drives, six drives
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and four, Yes they're two games behind New England in
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why well for a lot of the reasons that they're
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Speaker 94 (01:58:48):
I mean, I don't know the statistics or anything like that.
I'm assuming that we've done a good job of protecting
the football, you know, and especially especially games at home,
being able to use cadence and making sure that we're
communicating well.

Speaker 30 (01:59:02):
I think that helps.

Speaker 94 (01:59:03):
But we got a again daunting task this week against
a team that's playing really well. Obviously, Joe coming back
is a huge spark for them, you know, and it's
gonna be all hands on deck.

Speaker 18 (01:59:16):
Yes, it is, including it linebacker because Terrell Bernard is out,
Shaq Thompson has to step in. Aging veteran Shaq Thompson
has to step in. He knows what his role is today.

Speaker 95 (01:59:29):
Limited penalties, create turnovers, you know, limit turnovers as the
offense and you know, just keep putting drives together and
the defense is just get off the field three and
ows and create turnovers. Score on defense. You know, that's
gonna be one way, really to me, the only way
to separate ourselves. Or even if they get in the
red zone, you know, three points are less, right, don't
let them get in.

Speaker 18 (01:59:47):
Sounds like maybe a strategy for the Bengals as well.
As we approach the two hour mark before kickoff in Buffalo.
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on a dime with the way he runs the football.
Last time out against the Steelers one hundred forty four yards,
before that against the Texans one hundred sixteen yards. He
put up one hundred and fourteen against the Chiefs earlier
this year, two hundred and sixteen on the ground against
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and thirty two against the Jets all the way back
in September. He has twelve hundred and twenty eight yards
so far running the football for the Buffalo Bills, and
Zach Taylor knows stopping this this guy is job one.

Speaker 48 (02:10:02):
He's got great patience and vision and quickness and acceleration
and play strength. So I mean, you can just go
on and on and name every intangible and physical trait
you want to running back to have. He has it
a lot of confidence in the scheme. I know from
working with Aaron Kromer in the past, the line coach.
He does a great job and Joe Brady painting a
vision for what they want in the run game and

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how it's supposed to be from a technique standpoint, where
we're supposed to hit. And so you've seen back have success,
you know, and so I don't think that's shocking. And
it's not even just him. He's a great back, but
the other backs get in there and do great job
as well. So really dangerous attack.

Speaker 18 (02:10:39):
Yeah, got to watch out for him today, particularly on
a day where the field may be a little slick.
Ball control for both teams very important. The Bengals chances
of making the playoffs are slim as of right now.
There's somewhere between two to seven percent. A lot of
the models are showing them as long shots. In fact,

(02:10:59):
NFL have them at two percent. They got to win
out get some significant help. If they beat Buffalo today,
well then that percentage gets a little bit better. The
bottom line is the only thing they can take care
of is themselves, and that is worrying about Buffalo. The
NFL is jumbled this year. This is the first time

(02:11:21):
in NFL history where there are five divisions with a
lead of under one game this late in the season,
and because of that, predicting who wins what division and
who the wild cards are are very difficult. Yet there
is someone at cbssports dot com who is attempting to
do that. He is Zach Peerless, and he has a

(02:11:43):
story out right now that says which NFL contenders can
you actually trust? Sorting twenty playoff hope falls into tiers
in this a parody filled season. Zach Peerless checking in
now from the home office, and it's great to have
him here on seven hundred WLW on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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And Zach, how are you on this glorious game day?

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
I'm great, I'm great. What a wonderful week of football
we have started to day?

Speaker 18 (02:12:13):
Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. Now I see this
this story. I don't see the Bengals on this list.
So you're not a believer yet, are you?

Speaker 2 (02:12:23):
Not quite?

Speaker 55 (02:12:24):
I think that one of the toughest things for me
is that they've dug themselves such a hole, and believe
me that they have seen North is certainly not inspiring
a lot of confidence, right now.

Speaker 2 (02:12:35):
But it's still just going to be such a call
task for the Bengals to get there. There's certainly a team.

Speaker 55 (02:12:42):
I feel like we've had this talk before. They're a
team that no one would want to see in the postseason.
The question is did they dig themselves too deep of
a hole to even be in that postseason?

Speaker 18 (02:12:53):
Well, they've got to run the table. I mean, there
are some people in this town that think that if
they win four of their remaining five that they're going
to get in. I don't see how a sub five
hundred record wins. The AFC North is as bad as
that division has been. But Burrow is back and that's
certainly a huge plus. Their schedule is not all that
demanding once they get past this game today against the

(02:13:16):
Bills and next week's game here in Cincinnati against Baltimore,
and then it's Miami, Arizona and in Cleveland. But obviously
any chance they have spins on these next two games.

Speaker 2 (02:13:26):
Right, absolutely, one hundred percent, right, I think that.

Speaker 55 (02:13:32):
Man the Ravens, it's just been one thing after another
good season, and even as they have sort of steadied
the ship record wide, their level of play has simply
not really been close to what we expected.

Speaker 2 (02:13:47):
The you know, the Steelers, I always had some questions.

Speaker 55 (02:13:51):
About, and I'm actually in Baltimore today to see their showdown,
but I just I have not been really impressed by
the Steelers all season long. Obviously Mike Commlin knows how
to pull out some smoking mirrors victories, but they just
it's just not there offensively.

Speaker 2 (02:14:11):
In the Ravens.

Speaker 55 (02:14:12):
You look at this team and you've seen this core
do it before, it just hasn't been the case this year.

Speaker 2 (02:14:18):
Lamar Jackson just.

Speaker 55 (02:14:19):
Not really close to the quarterback that he has been,
you know, for essentially his entire career, but especially the
past two three years.

Speaker 2 (02:14:28):
So it's these two games.

Speaker 55 (02:14:30):
Like the Bengals, they have to do it now, certainly
if they want to start today.

Speaker 2 (02:14:37):
The Bills are a beatable team.

Speaker 55 (02:14:38):
I think that Cincinnati has done a great job improving
their running game throughout the year, which is kind of
funny because that's the thing that they always wish they
had the compliment Joe Burrow, and now they've kind of
discovered it without him, now that these back will see
how good that offense could be. Certainly like to see
them establish the ground game today. The struggling Buffalo defense.

Speaker 18 (02:15:01):
Well, they rushed for one hundred and twenty eight a
couple of Thursday nights ago against Baltimore and average about
four on the ground. But you're right about their defense,
it's been sub par. So I'm just wondering in your
opinion was last Thursday night, Thanksgiving night? Was it an
anomaly the way they played defensively or do you think
something's happened here where maybe they finally figure this thing

(02:15:24):
out defensively.

Speaker 55 (02:15:26):
I think there were some elements of an anomaly in there.
I think you've got one punch out right.

Speaker 2 (02:15:33):
At the goal line, Isaiah likely loses the ball. You
got kind of a fifty to fifty. Maybe you get it.
Maybe you don't call on a Zay Flowers touchdowns.

Speaker 99 (02:15:43):
But having said that, the things that you have to
do to kind of get off the mass defensively, especially
in the day's NFL, you have to one get a.

Speaker 55 (02:15:53):
Little bit lucky because the offenses and the quarterbacks are
so so good, and two you have to play with
outstanding effort, and you saw it on the Isaiah likely fumble,
especially when you have some basic struggles. The Bengals they
do not tackle well. They have a lot of issues
kind of over pursuing and there are just some fundamental

(02:16:16):
issues that maybe can be fixed here there. But the
things that have to be right are that is the effort,
and you certainly saw that, and that's half the battle.
Sometimes even more especially when you have a good offense.
Your defense can either be really really good down to
down which the Bengals they are not trending that way,

(02:16:37):
or they can make a big play here or there.
And that's what you saw Thursday night, is you saw
the takeaways. You saw the ability to make a play
here or there.

Speaker 2 (02:16:48):
And if they can get to.

Speaker 55 (02:16:49):
That level, if they're bad or mediocre for fifty plays,
but they can make three or four that you know,
either stop a drive or turn into points for the offense.

Speaker 2 (02:17:02):
That's really really important. You have to be able to
do something, even if it's just a few plays a game.
That's all that this Bengals offense might need.

Speaker 18 (02:17:12):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, that's the hope. In your article,
you break down tier by tiers, Tier one, tier two,
all the way to tiers six and tier one is
inner circle of trustworthiness and you've got the Rams and
the Packers above everybody else that are right now playoff
contenders or teams that look like they're certain for the playoffs.

(02:17:34):
Tier two is interesting. Quarterbacks can carry them Chiefs, Bills, Chargers,
Chiefs Bills, Chargers. The Chiefs, as you point out, are
playing for their playoff lives tonight on Sunday Night Football
against Houston. We already know about Buffalo, and then there's
the Chargers and what they have out there. With Herbert
just wondering about the Bills, let's just keep it focused here.

(02:17:57):
Josh Allen is a guy that can throw his team
on his back. He's also a guy that has been
giving up the football a little too much via turnover.
I'm just wondering of the three quarterbacks, Mahomes and Josh
Allen and Justin Herbert, of those quarterbacks that can carry teams,
which of those three do you think is the top

(02:18:19):
in your Tier two.

Speaker 2 (02:18:21):
I think I still have to go with Patrick Mahomes
simply because we've seen it so many times.

Speaker 79 (02:18:28):
I think that he is there.

Speaker 55 (02:18:30):
It's so interesting you look at the splits between Mahomes
versus Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
In the regular season, the Bills win time after time.

Speaker 55 (02:18:39):
It gets to the postseason and Patrick Mahomes has beaten
the Bills every single time, so I think obviously you're right.
The Chiefs have their backs against the wall one hundred percent.
This is about as close to a must win game
as it gets for especially this It's late in the year,
but it's early to have must win games already. The

(02:19:02):
Chiefs have run out of roomer error, so I'm really
interested to see Patrick Mahomes. He was excellent on Thanksgiving,
they still lost, so questions about the defense have crept up.
Patrick Mahomes has to be pretty close to perfect, and
they're gonna have to do it against a very very
good Texans defense, and the Chiefs are going to be

(02:19:25):
down several offensive line starters.

Speaker 2 (02:19:28):
That's never a good recipe for success against Will Anderson Jr.
And the Neil Hunter.

Speaker 55 (02:19:34):
So I'd still take Mahomes, but he might have to
be as good as ever just to get Kansas City
to the playoffs.

Speaker 18 (02:19:41):
We've got a Tier four here, trust the defense, not
the offense. You have trust the offense not the defense
in Tier three and you mentioned the Texans there, Seattle
and Denver are in the trust the defense category. Then
you have wild cards, and the Ravens are inside the
wildcard group with Philly, Chicago, San Francisco, the Colts, the Jags,
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Baltimore as we as we mentioned,

(02:20:04):
played the Bengals. We could go Thursday night. I don't
since they can play any worse than what they played
on that in that game, and a lot of that
had to do with how the Bengals played against them.
But as you look at the AFC North right now
and you've got Baltimore and Pittsburgh in a huge game
tonight that you're at at Baltimore between the Steelers and
the Ravens. If you had to look at the AFC

(02:20:26):
North right now and pick one of those three teams Bengals,
Ravens or Steelers to win it, who would it be?

Speaker 55 (02:20:32):
At this point, I'm still going with the Ravens. I
just cannot imagine Lamar.

Speaker 2 (02:20:39):
Jackson continues to be this bad. It's one thing to
have him be a little bit limited as a runner.

Speaker 55 (02:20:47):
His progression as a passer throughout his career has been remarkable,
especially as a downfield passer. Right now, he's not the
runner that we've seen him be, and he's not close
to the pass or that we see him be. I
just don't think that that's really sustainable, though. I think
that he's going to be better. He has to be better,

(02:21:09):
but he's also going to be better just I think
he has gone through some stretches here.

Speaker 2 (02:21:16):
Honestly, it seems like almost.

Speaker 55 (02:21:18):
Every quarterback, except for maybe Patrick Mahomes, maybe Joe Burrow,
you've been, they go through these stretches where for a
few weeks it just doesn't look good. You mentioned Josh
Allen will give the ball to the other team. He'll
have these stretches where, you know, five or six turnovers
in three games. Lamar Jackson is just going through a
brutal skid right now. One of these ones where he says,

(02:21:41):
I make these frozen practice.

Speaker 2 (02:21:42):
He can make these frozen as sleep, and he's not
doing it.

Speaker 55 (02:21:45):
You gained, So if you take into account of big picture,
I think the Ravens defense has improved. I think that
Lamar Jackson is slumping right now, but there's no way
this slump and goes through the end of the season.
And also when it gets cold, when the conditions aren't great,

(02:22:07):
I want Derrick Henry in my backfield.

Speaker 2 (02:22:09):
So that's why I'm still leaning Ravens.

Speaker 55 (02:22:11):
But we're certainly going to find out today. This is
a big one, and strange things tend to happen when
the Ravens and the Steelers meet.

Speaker 18 (02:22:20):
Yeah, no question about that. Zach Peerless, cbsports dot Com
as our guest. He is at that Ravens Pittsburgh game.
All right, I got about a minute here, Zach, give
me your handicap on these games today, Cincinnati at Buffalo,
Pittsburgh at Baltimore. End of the day, who's the winner,
who's the loser in both of those games.

Speaker 2 (02:22:41):
Here in Baltimore. I'll go with the hosts Baltimore.

Speaker 55 (02:22:45):
They're too good running the ball, that's been an issue
for Pittsburgh all year, and Aaron Rodgers playing with a
broken left rist. Everything that he does so well from
under center, he's not doing because it's not fun to
pass under center with a broken ridge, breaking nude. And
then when we head up to Buffalo, oh man, I

(02:23:07):
think it's going to be a good one. I think
there are going to be a lot of points scored.
I think at the end though, Josh Allen is going
to be a little bit too much. I think the
running game, especially is going to be a little bit
too much In Buffalo gets.

Speaker 18 (02:23:20):
The way James Cook and route to it at least
an eighteen hundred yard season. He's rushed already for over
twelve hundred. All right, The story again is which NFL
contenders can you actually trust? Sorting twenty playoff hope pols
into tears in a parody filled season. Zach Perlis, the author,
not quite buying into Bengals yet. Maybe we check back

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with him in twenty four hours. Zach, thanks for your time, man,
We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (02:23:47):
Thanks so much for having me. Always a blast.

Speaker 18 (02:23:49):
Well, we'll see how much of a blast it is
in Buffalo where the snow is falling. Temperatures as well,
could be a factor throughout the game. There is some
breaking news out of Buffalo. I think this is more
fodder for after the game today and on and through
the week. The Bengals have suspended wide receiver Jermaine Burton.

(02:24:11):
He was listed as inactive, he did not make the
trip to Buffalo and no reason given for why he
is suspended. Jermaine Burton actually now contending for biggest Bengal
draft pick bust in the last twenty five years. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 30 (02:27:13):
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Speaker 18 (02:27:13):
We'll see what kind of outside pressure Buffalo can get
without Joey Bosa today. But of those three, I think
if they can keep the front of the pocket clean,
that will give Joe Burrow plenty of opportunity. He's okay
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for the Buffalo Bills. They've had their share, and I
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Joey Bosa. That's a major loss for them today. They're
great pass rusher as well as their linebacker Terrell Bernard.
He is out today as well. So Sean McDermott, head
coach Buffalo, on all the injuries.

Speaker 101 (02:28:19):
Is the toughness of our football team is what's going
to drive us as we move forward here with as
you said, a few of those injuries. So we don't
have time to be feeling sorry for ourself. We've got
to get ourselves ready for a big time challenge this
weekend here.

Speaker 18 (02:28:35):
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have been here before. Maybe last year they learned a
few lessons about how to rally here late right, Jamarrow.

Speaker 28 (02:29:10):
As a teeth respective, I would just say, just not
giving up, you know what I'm saying. That's that's the
hardest thing, and not putting fingers at somewhere when it's
not going our way. I'm personal. I was just saying,
being accountable for yourself and just doing your job at
the end of the day. That's what it's all about,
doing your job and winning.

Speaker 18 (02:29:27):
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Good afternoon, and welcome to count Down to Kickoff on
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a row against the Buffalo Bills and Josh Allen. Both
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are trying to improve their playoff position. And there's no
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Speaker 34 (02:31:31):
Thank you, Bocks.

Speaker 67 (02:31:32):
Appreciate that today's game demands a weather report at the
beginning of the broadcast. I am not a meteorologist, but
I'm about to play one on the radio. Oties twenty
eight degrees. We have steady snow falling here in Orchard Park,
New York, which is a Buffalo suburb. When I arrived
at the stadium on the late team bus maybe forty
five minutes ago, the field was still bare. Not anymore.

(02:31:53):
It is snow coded now. You can see footprints forming
in this light coat of snow. The forecast the rest
of the game looks like this. It's not supposed to
get much colder. It's going to linger around twenty eight
degrees something like that. But the snow is expected to continue,
could be up to an inch or two during the
course of the next several hours. So it's definitely going

(02:32:15):
to be a factor today here in Buffalo.

Speaker 30 (02:32:16):
I agree, Dan, I think it will.

Speaker 51 (02:32:18):
It will be a factor, particularly if it continues to
snow at the rate you're talking about that they're reporting currently.

Speaker 89 (02:32:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 51 (02:32:26):
I mean, when the numbers disappear covered by snow, and
when the yard line stripes are disappear because of the snow,
you know it's serious. And obviously the footy can be
an issue. And when the footing is an issue, then
you got to who can run the football? You got
to rely on the running game, and I think the

(02:32:46):
Bengals are going to have to be able to run
the football against the Buffalo Bills, that defensive football team
of the Buffalo Bills. The Bengals have been running the
football better, there's no question about it. I mean, I
think that's been a reason that they've played better in
recent weeks, that their offense has been balanced. And even
with Joe Burrow at the quarterback position, you know, he
came back to the hell of a job last week,

(02:33:07):
the big win against the Baltimore Ravens and trying to
get another one here in Buffalo, and he's done well
here in Buffalo playing against the Buffalo Bills. He is
the straw that stirs the drink. There's no question. He's
the guy that's going to be the biggest factor in
determining if the Cincinnati Bengals can get a W today
or not. But I'm telling you the next biggest key

(02:33:28):
is will Chase Brown and shamaj Ap Ryan be able
to get the running game going? Not just those guys,
Will the offensive line be able to handle the Buffalo
Bill's defensive line in the running game. And Buffalo they're stout.
I mean they play it. They play it pretty well.
I mean they all you know, take a gap. They
don't do a whole lot. I mean, Bobby Babbie is

(02:33:49):
not a guy that runs a million looks in eighty thousand,
you know, variations off of that. If you figure something out,
he's got something that he goes to. They pretty much too.

Speaker 18 (02:33:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 51 (02:34:00):
If they take you on there right in the middle
of your chest and you know, trying to stop you
and then play off of either side of you to
stop run the losso one gap, get in gaps and penetrate,
he will load the box to stop the run. If
you get that running game going, I think if he
does start loading the box, it's a great sign because
that means that the Chase brown Ands Andmajrep Runner are

(02:34:21):
getting it done and they're gonna have to put another
guy in the in the box that he hopes will
be unblocked that can handle the Bengals running attack. An
unblocked guy get to the ball, carry and take him down.

Speaker 67 (02:34:32):
There's player news today involving the Cincinnati Bengals. Wide receiver
Jermaine Burton has been suspended for today's game. He's obviously
inactive as a result, he wouldn't have been counted on anyway.
He's done nothing this year. He didn't make the team flight,
so it's just another strike against this guy. He's got
all the talent in the world, but has not been
a professional in his first two NFL seasons. Laf the

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Bengals have paid him two point nine million dollars so
far in two years, and the return has it's been
almost nothing.

Speaker 51 (02:35:01):
Absolutely, I mean it's it's almost disgusting. Really, here's a guy,
like you said, Dan, amazingly talented, elite physical abilities. I mean,
he's got really good size, you know, six to two,
couple to ten, two fifteen ish, can really run, can
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and break open and present himself as a viable target
for quarterbacks. He's got good hands. You know, he puts
the football away. But like you said, he can't be trusted.
And you know he has not learned the playbook either.
I mean, that's that's that's the big thing. If Joe
Burrow doesn't trust you, you got problems. And really Joe

(02:35:43):
Burrow does not trust Burton at the stage of the career.

Speaker 67 (02:35:46):
So he's not here today. But T Higgins is. He's
back from his concussion. He is good to go today.
As for how he feels about the weather, well, when
they played the playoff game here in January of twenty three,
t was captured on Mike saying this weather isn't for everybody,
and I'm everybody, so it's not his cup of tea.
But I also heard Jamar Chase say to Ta Higgins

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on the bench just a little while ago, you know what,
not too bad today. Yeah, So hopefully that's how they
feel about the weather conditions. The temperature in the high
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Speaker 15 (02:36:19):
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Speaker 102 (02:38:13):
Welcome back to col Down to kickoff on the Cincinnati
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Speaker 22 (02:38:17):
I'm Wayne box Miller.

Speaker 102 (02:38:17):
Glad to have you a bored And I tell you
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Speaker 23 (02:38:34):
BJ, You've been Joe Burrow's teammate for five years.

Speaker 67 (02:38:37):
When a guy comes back ahead of schedule from an injury,
what statement does that make to his teammates?

Speaker 104 (02:38:43):
It means a lot, man, even guys who fight through
injuries each and every day, seeing them out there practicing,
seeing out on the games, meaning that they that they
care for the guys some instance like you can't be
out there, but guys that you know try to be
out there, try to do everything's possible to get out there.

Speaker 4 (02:38:59):
It means to.

Speaker 30 (02:39:01):
The teammates.

Speaker 67 (02:39:02):
So I was watching the postgame celebration after the victory
in Baltimore. The big tur ducking spread out there on
the field. You were right in the middle of the celebration,
and then it looked like you bailed before getting a bite.

Speaker 23 (02:39:15):
What happened?

Speaker 104 (02:39:16):
I was ready to go go home, man, It was
a long two days for us, and I was like,
you know what, let me get in the locker room,
take a shour, and I'm ready to go.

Speaker 23 (02:39:24):
Home to get to my family. You got the feast
the next night, I.

Speaker 104 (02:39:27):
Did, got up early, even though we got back of late.
Got up early and I smoked a turkey.

Speaker 23 (02:39:34):
All right, good to know. We're visiting with DJ Hill.

Speaker 67 (02:39:36):
Over the last three weeks, the defense has given up
an average of seventeen point six points. That would be
number three in the NFL if it was for the
entire season. What are the biggest reasons for the defensive improvement?

Speaker 104 (02:39:48):
Yeah, I do the little things right. This was really
was killing us at the beginning of the year or
halfway through year whatever. That was a little stretch. We
just want doing the little things right. And we came
back and just skip on work and keep on tipping
at the things that we had to get better.

Speaker 30 (02:40:02):
And we have a point that we turned around.

Speaker 104 (02:40:04):
We just gotta keep the moment and going, keep on
playing defense, communicating and just playing as a team. If
we keep on doing that, man, I think a lot
of things to take care of itself.

Speaker 23 (02:40:13):
Are you seeing the light come on for some of
your younger teammates.

Speaker 104 (02:40:18):
H for sure, especially the two rookie linebackers sitting and
fly around and having fun, being more confident, just being
there in their role. It's a lot when you come
in have to play a lot for NFL team, and
you can see how they matured and take advantage of
each and every rep even in practice, The way they communicate,

(02:40:39):
way they come back to work, just actually just actually
older guys. Even they asking me questions like I'm like,
all right, I think you're gonna You're gonna be special
in this league. Just just keep on working, just doing
the right things, the little things, over and over and
never get tired of it.

Speaker 67 (02:40:52):
Do you think linebacker is especially tough for a rookie.
I mean Barrett Carter for examples, wearing the green dot.
He's the guy communicating without golden I think so.

Speaker 104 (02:41:01):
I think it's it's tough that in safety to play
by those positions, especially mentally, you got a lot on
your plate. They're playing the tackle is a rooku. I
think it's very hard too, but playing a lot, but
you got a lot on your play. You gotta get
the calls, you gotta make sure you know what you're
doing other people are doing mixture in the right spot,
getting the right calls, the checks and just everything you got.

(02:41:22):
You definitely got a lot on the play and you
can see the way they just improved over the last
couple of weeks. Man, It's it's very exciting to see.

Speaker 67 (02:41:30):
We're chatting with bj Hill. Joseph OSEI might have had
the best game of his career in Baltimore. Two sacks,
four quarterback hits in a forest fumble. I remember you
raved about his effort when I asked you about him
during training camp. How excited were you to see him
have a game like that on Thanksgiving Night.

Speaker 104 (02:41:47):
I'd love to see my guys ball, no matter what
room they and I love seeing Joseph just knowing the
hard work that he put in over the shoot the
last couple of years, even this off seasons, the way
he just attacked each and every day shoot. I mean,
I'm excited for him, man. It's it's really great to see.
You love to see guys have success on the field.
You face the Bills in Buffalo this Sunday. You have

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faced Josh Allen three times before in your career. You
have sacked him once. What stands out to you about
the Bills QB.

Speaker 2 (02:42:17):
Man.

Speaker 104 (02:42:18):
He's everything you want as a quarterback. He's one of
the best in the league. He's big, he's strong, he's fast,
got a good arms. He's one of the guys that's
like I said, he's one of the best to do
it in the league.

Speaker 30 (02:42:31):
Right now. We got a hands full, but I believe
we got the defense of the in in our room,
the dude we need to do to win the game.

Speaker 104 (02:42:39):
What do you remember about that sack? I think I
said more than one. You don't really count playoffs, but
you know we got the playoffs there.

Speaker 68 (02:42:48):
I got.

Speaker 30 (02:42:49):
Think I got him twice. I think so.

Speaker 104 (02:42:53):
Remember I believe he's me and Sam run a text game.
I got vertical Sam wrapped around on a sack.

Speaker 23 (02:43:00):
You know all right?

Speaker 67 (02:43:01):
Buffalo ran for two hundred and forty nine yards last
week and their win over Pittsburgh. James Cook has seven
one hundred yard games this year. What must do you
do to slow down that Buffalo rushing attack on Sunday?

Speaker 30 (02:43:12):
He can do it all.

Speaker 104 (02:43:13):
Catch out the backfield, run it make you miss, hard
to tackle. Strong, Like I said, we just got to
swim to the ball, get all hasts to the ball.
Tackle somebody MISU tackle, make sure somebody right there hitting
them right after. I'll be play technic sound. Make sure
we're staying in our gass and playing good football together.
Build a wall so you know it's hard for him

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to to you know, cutting them gaps and stuff like that.
So we played good football for what.

Speaker 30 (02:43:37):
We can do we need to do.

Speaker 67 (02:43:39):
There's still a path to win the AFC North, but
it's narrow. If you win this week, does it really
feel possible? Does it take a couple of wins Buffalo
and Baltimore? Where do you stand on the realistic chances
of still pulling this off?

Speaker 104 (02:43:56):
My mind right now, just one game at a time,
look ahead, I'll just come on, play a bis ball
whatever happens. And I feel like if you put our
bis for Ford on defense sideball, I no offense is
gonna take do their part? Who do our side on
the defenses all take care.

Speaker 23 (02:44:09):
Of So appreciate your time, Best of luck against Bill.

Speaker 102 (02:44:12):
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Speaker 102 (02:47:27):
Welcome back to Countdown to Kickoff. Ride you on the
Cincinnati Bengals Radio Network. Wine Box Miller, thank you for
joining us. Hope you're staying warm, so you know want
we know. Joe Burrow is back and while at least
not one hundred percent, he's taken advantage of everything to
keep his foot in step with the program, including the
new Cleach he started wearing last week against the Baltimore Ravens.
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new cleats working, what they're comprised of to help him
stay on the field.

Speaker 86 (02:47:56):
What is in your shoe and that's helping you with
your toe?

Speaker 2 (02:48:00):
Carbon fiber plate and.

Speaker 7 (02:48:01):
Custom or thought what how does that help your ears help?

Speaker 88 (02:48:05):
Well, they just can't shoe can't bend because my toe
can't go backwards right now, still a little early for that.
So just keeps it firm and not bending it back.

Speaker 7 (02:48:16):
Is it comfortable?

Speaker 2 (02:48:18):
No?

Speaker 15 (02:48:20):
Are you wearing different cleaves now when you were before.

Speaker 78 (02:48:23):
Before an injury?

Speaker 30 (02:48:24):
Yeah? Yeah, these are the ones that.

Speaker 88 (02:48:28):
I feel like give me enough space.

Speaker 30 (02:48:31):
And stability to do what I need to do.

Speaker 102 (02:48:37):
All right, that's Joe Burrow talking about the clean look,
whatever the shoe is and so apparatus. Having Joe Burrow
on the field is a difference maker. And back with
and I tell you what happened in back on the
field as you saw in the Thanksgiving game, Uh was impressive.
He's got a game under his belt as he goes
up against the Buffalo Bills today. Coming up, we'll hear
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Speaker 102 (02:50:53):
Welcome back to Countdown the Kickoff on the Fingals Radio Network.
Wayne box, Spiller and Drew Sample. It's almost at time
of year for Christmas, and you and your wife really
have something nice you roll out for this community.

Speaker 30 (02:51:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 40 (02:51:04):
So actually a week from today, we're doing our annual
event with since Any Children's where this year we've taken donations,
We did a couple events and we had some local
partners with Credo and gold Star that people have donated to.
So we go out and we buy toys and we
do a big event at since Any Children's where basically
everyone who's staying at the hospital is able to come

(02:51:25):
down and basically shop, get.

Speaker 30 (02:51:28):
Gifts, toys, whatever.

Speaker 57 (02:51:29):
We have.

Speaker 40 (02:51:30):
We have a huge amount of a huge rive of
options for them, which is which is great. And so yeah,
they get to come down and basically shop, and you
know it's for people that you know, some of these
kids and families and you know, even teenagers have been
in the hospital for you know, months, weeks, some were
in and out for years, and you know, just talking
to people and you know some we've talked to some

(02:51:51):
families where you know, sometimes so like it's Christmas is
the last thing on my mind just because of the
health and whatever.

Speaker 30 (02:51:56):
So just trying to you know, trying to brighten their day.

Speaker 40 (02:51:59):
And I guess one of the reasons I started it
was because all three of my girls spent time, you know,
at children's for various reasons, So it's something near and
dear to my heart.

Speaker 30 (02:52:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 102 (02:52:08):
I would imagine by now you've done this so much
that you get excited about the giving point. I do.

Speaker 30 (02:52:13):
I do get really excited.

Speaker 40 (02:52:13):
It's fun every year, honestly, especially with the support we've
had from the community and even.

Speaker 30 (02:52:18):
My teammates and whatever.

Speaker 40 (02:52:19):
Is to go out and see year to year, like
how much better the gifts have gotten, how much more
stuff we can get, because you know, as a kid
who doesn't love to have a big haul from Christmas,
especially when you're you know, when you're battling, whether it's
you know, surgeries or illnesses.

Speaker 30 (02:52:35):
Or you know, whatever, whatever the case may be. So
it's special, you know.

Speaker 102 (02:52:38):
I always think that this game of football turns into
a business of football. And for you, you've seen the
highs and lows of this game. What would you say
to young guys, is they come in about the business
of this game?

Speaker 30 (02:52:51):
Yeah, I mean, I think.

Speaker 40 (02:52:54):
It's definitely different when you're when you're young, you're you're
naive to a lot of that. Obviously, you want to
come in, you want to play football and anything. At
the end of the day, that's still kind of what
it's about. But as you get older, you kind of just,
you know, you understand the different nuances and things, and
a lot of the decisions and reasoning behind the decisions
is kind of that part of it. But I think

(02:53:15):
it's something you just get used to, and especially when
in certain scenarios, it's something that you kind of just
tune out. And you know, I you know, love playing
football and at the end of the day, that's what
you're here to do. And the things outside of that,
especially the things that you can't control, you know, that
kind of falls into that category.

Speaker 18 (02:53:29):
Sometimes.

Speaker 102 (02:53:29):
I talked to Chase Browns as a dad now and
he understands the nuances now of work life balance.

Speaker 6 (02:53:35):
You've got your daughters. How did that work life balance
put life in perspective for you?

Speaker 30 (02:53:40):
Yeah, I mean, I think obviously growing up and.

Speaker 40 (02:53:45):
Having that football being such a huge part of your life,
and then getting married and that becomes a big part
of your life, and then having you know, children, obviously
it changes things a lot. But I think that doesn't
take away from, you know, the love and the work
that I put into the game, but it just allows
especially where I'm at my career, there's definitely, you know,
moments where I feel comfortable, you know, being able to
step away and spend time with them, or knowing when

(02:54:07):
I get home it's like I had put football side
and really enjoy those moments, especially as they get older,
especially around the holiday season.

Speaker 30 (02:54:14):
That's like, you know, as a kid and for me,
that was always my favorite time of year.

Speaker 40 (02:54:18):
And so being able to to, you know, now experience
that with my kids and do all these special things
with them is always awesome.

Speaker 102 (02:54:23):
All Right, I'd like to do something this year called
the Gratitude Games. I'll ask you three people you're grateful for,
two things that you're thankful for, and then one thing
you're hopeful for. Okay, So if I asked three people
you're grateful for, who would that be? Definitely grateful for
my wife. You know, she's she's our rocket home. We've

(02:54:44):
got three three kids, three under seven now, so I
mean we have we have, we have a lot going
on at home.

Speaker 30 (02:54:50):
So she's she'll always be my rock.

Speaker 40 (02:54:53):
And honestly, you know, I'm super grateful for for the
rest of my family, for my parents, for her parents,
for you know, even brothers and sisters, everyone that kind
of contributes to our you know, our village because you.

Speaker 30 (02:55:04):
Know, it's it's chaotic. Sometimes I'm traveling, she's traveling. We
got different things. So and then.

Speaker 40 (02:55:11):
Another person I'm thinking for, I'm thinking for James Casey.
You know, he's been my obviously my coach for the
last seven years. But what he's been able to do
and the things that he I think brings to our
room and brings to me as a player is something
that I'll always.

Speaker 30 (02:55:23):
Be thankful for, you know, in the good times and
the bad.

Speaker 40 (02:55:26):
He's super consistent, and he's always someone that you can,
you know, look for having played and having gone through it. Okay,
what was the next to two things that impacted you?
You know, I think just being able to be here
for seven years. I think that's something that has impacted me,
seeing all the guys that have come through and and

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seeing how, you know, how not normal that is in
certain places.

Speaker 30 (02:55:52):
So I'm thankful for.

Speaker 40 (02:55:53):
That, you know, being able to go through a lot
of highs and lows here and just to get different perspective.
I'm like, you know, that's that's that's not normal, not
having to whether that's changed offenses, change cities, whatever, just
for me as a you know, for me and my family,
and for you know, me as a player. I'm I'll
always be grateful for that and hopefully, you know, we
keep it going.

Speaker 18 (02:56:14):
And then another one of.

Speaker 6 (02:56:15):
Those, yeah, another things that they impacted you.

Speaker 30 (02:56:20):
I mean, I think I think my kids have had
a bigger impact.

Speaker 40 (02:56:23):
And you know, I always wanted to be a dad,
but then actually going through that process three different times
with three different you know, three different girls, three different personalities,
three different whatever. You know, it's good and it's so
much fun being able to experience that in their own way,
especially as they've gotten older and gotten into sports and
gotten into school and you know, doing parent teacher conferences

(02:56:44):
and things like that, where you know, things get put
in perspective really quickly, and that's something that's you know,
going forward to my life. I'm super excited to be
such a good part of my life outside of football,
and I think that's impacted me in.

Speaker 30 (02:56:56):
A positive way, both alling them off the field and I.

Speaker 6 (02:56:59):
Astually one thing you're hopeful for, well, I'm.

Speaker 40 (02:57:02):
Hopeful that we keep winning and we finished the season
on a good and I'm hopeful I stay healthy. No,
I'm I'm hopeful that, you know, for us as a team,
I think we've we've slowly started to turn the page.

Speaker 30 (02:57:16):
And obviously Joe came back. I think that's that's awesome.
And you know, he looks like Joe Burrow, so he's
only going to get better, I think. So, you know,
I think one game at a time for us, but
I'm hopeful that we can continue.

Speaker 40 (02:57:26):
To stat games like we have, you know, as as
a team really you know, offense, defense, special teams. I
think that was our best game in all phases. And
so I'm hopeful that we can continue that. And I'm
hopeful that a week from today we have a great
holiday event where all the kids come out, they get
they get as many toys as they can carry down
or whatever it may be. And you know, I hope,

(02:57:46):
I'm hopeful that I can make their holiday season a
little bit better.

Speaker 30 (02:57:49):
Thank Joe.

Speaker 6 (02:57:49):
We're thankful for you as a player, but more so
as a person.

Speaker 30 (02:57:52):
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 102 (02:57:54):
All right back with more countdown to kickoff right here
on the Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (02:57:56):
Bengals radio network.

Speaker 25 (02:57:58):
My name is Toast, and recently I negotiated massive tax
relief for a former Cincinnati football star. My playbook worked perfection,
and the irs was left watching as my celebrity client
ran free into the end zone and celebrated with tears
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