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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Billy Cunningham, the Great America and I have some comments
on PG sitting Feld later, but since today is Veterans Day,
it's always good to have on a veteran. We had
on the General about an hour ago. Newton Richard Newton
thirty four years now joining you, and I is I
think twenty five years in the military, retiring as a colonel,
and also twelve years United States Congress. The Great Brad Winds,
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Drip and bread, Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show,
and Brad, how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm doing all right, and Happy Veterans Day, and thank
you for so much acknowledgment of our veterans today on
your show. I appreciate it. I'm an avid listener.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
As you know, why did you many many a quarter
of a century ago? I asked General Newton the same thing.
It was an all volunteer force. You were functioning in
a medical practice, pedietary. You had your life more or
less going on the right track. Twenty five years ago
you said I'm going to join the military. Explain what
went into that decision.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, So there are a couple of things. I grew
up watching a couple of shows with my dad, and
one was called medical Center. I knew wanted to be
a doctor. But the other one was called Combat. It
was about World War two heroes fighting Nazi Germany, and
you might remember that show. But the idea of serving
in the military never left my mind, knowing in the
family had really been there. And I remember during the
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Gulf War a couple of local doctors reservists got called
up and we kept getting attacked, and I really thought
that if we need to go somewhere, I would go.
So in nineteen ninety eight I literally called one eight
hundred USA Army and asked for a recruiter and joined
the Army reserve. And then after nine to eleven we
all went to war. And I have to say, as
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bad as war is, and the experience where I was
at Abu Grab prison is chief of surgery there and
place where were attacked three four times. We the people
I served with were so unbelievable and the cause was
so just because of someone like Saddam Hussein, who was
just a murderous person. But I came back and I
said I'm staying. And it led to a career where
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I ran for Congress, and while in Congress, I was
still in the reserves, and Walter reed, And I know
you were talking about Afghanistan earlier today. And the last
case I did it, Walter reed, was when we left
Afghanistan and I got a call from the chief of
orthopedics who asked if I was in town, could I
come in because we have another tranche of wounded coming
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in And I operated on the guy whose leg was
blown up. So war is horrible, and these things are horrible,
but it's such an honor to serve and to serve
with those that do so much. And to me, the
military is the greatest club I ever joined. I mean,
it's the only place where unethical is unlawful. I mean
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it's the only place within our federal government. We have
a uniform code of military justice. And you have people,
like you said, volunteer. They step up and say, I'm
going to live by higher standard and I'm going to
serve others. And for example, the Army's acronym that we
live by is loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity,
personal courage, all of those things combined, and you try
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to live by those all the time. And it to me,
like I said, it's the greatest club I ever joined,
and my deployment, I would say, was the worst thing
I ever had to do, but the best thing I
ever got to do. And it's great that our country
does pay respect to all those who put on the uniform,
and so many of them, well, they don't just serve
in uniform. They serve our country and their families and
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God in many other ways when they return.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
As far as politics, you had the good fortune of
serving twelve years, there are some who's saying you should
run again in the New Ohio one which has spread,
which is the district currently occupied by Landsman. Have you
given thoughts again back into politics and running in Ohio One?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
You know, I served twelve years, and I do live
in the New Ohio one, and so it's certainly interesting.
I served twelve years. I had no regrets serving in
Congress and no regrets leaving because it was time to
be home. I'm coaching sixth grade basketball with a couple
of my friends on my son's team, and to be
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with my family more. It's really important. But I did
get appointed to the President's Intelligence Advisory Board, So Bill,
this gives me a chance to really continue the weigh
in on national security issues, and I get to d
C about once a month, and at the same time,
I'm able to work some of those issues on the
outside and then the private sector, because that's the way
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we're going to succeed in this country, as if we
engage more with the private sector than just waiting for
government to do things. You know, if you look at
the United States going to the moon, you know, that
was our government, but today it's Elon Musk or someone
like him, and we're working more in public private partnerships
and and the security of our nation needs a lot
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of work. And I'm glad to have the opportunity to
be home more and to be able to participate in
protecting this great country.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So is that a no?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
It was a long no, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
By do you foreclose the possibility?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, I would say that right now.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I just I'm gonna I'm gonna look into whatever is
going to be helpful for for of course, the country,
and and for the party and here in Ohio, and
hopefully we can we can land that seat, so to speak,
and and you know, do some more good things for
the country. I know you've had some discussions today about
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mister mister Lambsman's decision. If you want to talk about that,
you know, I was there when we tried to repeal
and replace Obamacare, and so this is really kind of
the John McCain shutdown, if you will, because he he
sank that ship, and we wouldn't be in this situation
if we had made those changes then. But the logic
doesn't add up. First of all, the bill to provide
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subsidies was provided by the Democrats, as was the bill
for the Affordable Care Act, which that was their bill,
and they made all kinds of promises which I heard
you put out before you had Obama's voice. None of
those rang true a matter of fact, just the opposite,
and has cost our country greatly. And there's no proof
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in any way that they have improved the health of
the Americans that are in that program. Necessarily, What have
they done? How things gotten better since it was implemented?
And so you look at all of those things and
you say, well, why are we going to continue to
do that? So they use the excuse of COVID to
add the subsidies to begin with, which only enrich the
insurance companies who often delay and deny your care. And
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I'm saying this as a doctor, because it lifts through
these things and it just delays into now your care,
so no one's really getting better necessarily, and the cost
has gone way up. They also are the one who
put the end date. They're the ones who put the
date for the end of this year. That wasn't Republicans.
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What was the reason for putting an end to it?
Why did they feel like they needed it to begin with?
When the promises were so great? So closing down the
government for that really didn't make any sense. And we
can have conversations, but it's not going to be to
continue to drive up the debt to the American people
in this country in the future of America through a
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program that's failing. We have to be able to do
actor action reviews on our bills, Republican bills too. Are
they working? Are they achieving the result that we thought
they would or said that we would, And if they're not,
be a man step up and say it's not working.
We got to make some change.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well, you know how the game is played. Landsman is
a weak congressman. Not many people pay attention to him.
To get re elected, he's got to have a keem
Jeffrey sending him millions of dollars. So when a keem
calls Landsman, so I need your vote on this, the
answer going to be yes, sir, I'll do it. He
is saying, loud and proud, it's my position to open
the government, So I'm going to vote to close it down.
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I'm thinking, wait a minute, you want to open the
government and close it down over a policy disagreement on
a very small part of the federal budget which has failed.
Everyone agrees Obamacare stinks. The promises have not been kept.
So when a program fails, Landsman and others say, what
if the program is failing, let's give it more money.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
That's the solution.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And the money for those who may not be in Obamacare,
the moneys hundreds of billions go to the not to
the patients, and not to the policyholders. It goes directly
to the insurance companies under a promise to lower premiums
as they cut deductibilities, as they make it harder in
order to and the price goes up. And so everyone
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agrees to the program has failed. We have to then
pay more for it. And secondly, it's completely unrelated to
paying the military or paying snap benefits or keeping the
government open. Those two events are completely different. In their mind.
They've tied it all together. And obviously, now that we
understand they did it to punish the American people until
the election was concluded, it's even more of a political game.
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And so how do you have a congressman like Landsman,
who on one hand says the government should be opened,
on the other hand votes to shut it down. Who's
now talking about Obamacare being a great program? Everyone agrees
it isn't. And brad winst if you announced a running
the new district and you live in that district, you
would win almost by acclamation, much like in nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
And two thousand.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
The American people are calling upon you to come out,
come out of the vineyards and come back and drink
some of the wine in the mansion house. We need
you to run again because you would easily win that district.
And if someone else doesn't come forward a lot like you,
will you reconsidered run to save the nation.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Well, maybe I'll take your show when you run. Maybe
we can do that. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I'm trying to convince you that I no one else's
step forward like you, and you live in the district. Obviously,
Lansman is a weak, feckless politician doing with the radical
elements of the Democrats demand that he does. He's not
up to the district. He doesn't represent the district. He
represents those who want to pay more for a failed
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government program, and he wants to shut down the government.
He doesn't want to pay the military, doesn't want to
pay the FBI, doesn't want to pay the prison guards,
doesn't want to pay the snap beneficiaries. And now he's
going to vote tomorrow, I guess to keep the government
shut down so they're not paid anymore. When it's unrelated
to Obamacare. Can you smell what I'm cooking?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, and you hit it before you know. There's just
so many times, and I see this with the Democrats,
and even Democrats in the Cincinnati area have said, you
know what, I can't vote for this person, even though
I think they're a good person, because they're just going
to go and be another vote for Pelosi. And I've
heard that from moderate Democrats over years and so, but
this is the dynamic that's there, and you end up
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being you know, basically extorted. You vote for this or
you're not getting this you're not going to be on
this committee. All of these things take place. We're we're
a little more free wheeling in the Republican Party, where
you you know, you fight for the position on the
committee you want, and we have a steering committee. But
when this when the leader of your party has that
much control and financial control, you know, with money for
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your elections, it's kind of hard to turn turn against them.
But it's also kind of hard to talk out of
both sides of your mouth. Greg, Greg I know, you know,
he tries to work with Republicans, but the end of
the day, you get this squeeze from the top and
you summed it up pretty well, and that's that's going
to be a problem. So the district has changed, and
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so there's a great opportunity for Republicans and those that
want to reduce spending in America. Yeah, those that want
to have a strong military, those that want to have
safety nets that actually work rather than become a dependence.
That's what we need in our offices today.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
How does one cause the other?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
So the argument is of the radical Democrats, we're going
to shut down the government, blame Trump for our behavior,
and then we're going to go to the voters and say, look,
I think the government should be opened, but I'm voting
against it. And if you can somehow succeed politically without argument,
we're in more trouble than I think.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Not now, Well, you think about that, you're you're You're
just one source of media. The mainstream media just plays along.
They don't ask those tough questions. They don't They don't
ask someone that question like why are you willing to
take food out of baby's mouths? To supplement subsidies for
insurance companies. They don't have anybody, do they.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Well, how about this.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
I had on an expert the other day who said
that family of four pays about twenty seven thousand dollars
a year in Obamacare premiums for allows the insurance, and
most of the deductibilities are five to seven thousand dollars each.
So a family of four, you got to spend forty
seven thousand dollars before you get a diamond diamond insurance reimbursement.
And the moneys don't go to the patient, They go
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to the they go to the insurance companies, where ninety
one percent of their donations go to democrats that they
gave Harris and others in the range of four hundred
million dollars to keep the subsidies coming. So the American
taxpayer is subsidizing insurance companies.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
What is in the media ask that question.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Well, so you know it's I want you to run.
I want you to run.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I hear you. Somebody asked me, will you ever run
profits again? And my wife was standing there and I
saw what you never say never? And my wife said,
I didn't know that. So I give you some idea.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Well, you live in the district. You don't travel, oh
Hell's half acre out to West Virginia. You live right
in the district. You fit the district. Your values are
this district, and you know where the bodies are buried
all over Washington. You're a veteran, you're a colonel, you
got twelve years experience. And we have a congressman telling
us I want to open the government, but I'm voting
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against it. It's like what and I want to get
more money to insurance companies, so they give me money
to run and.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
We're supposed to buy that. Come on, Brad, I want
you to do it.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
We'll talk. We'll talk, Bill, We'll have breakfast.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
All right, let's have breakfast at first. Watch.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Well we got it once again. Thank you, congratulations on
a life well led. And every now and then I
see at Saint Gertrude's. Every now and then I see JD.
Van's there. It's a growing parish. It's a great place
to be. But I don't want to be in a
situation come May of next year and we have some
numb nut running from Clinton County, and God bless Clinton County.
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I love Clinton County. But nonetheless, we've got somebody sitting
here who understands the issues. Can odd adequately. You wouldn't
be plus seven, you'd be plus ten, and maybe just
for the next four to six years, get back in service.
I know it's a sacrifice to make when you're living
the best life right now you can live, but just
give it.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Well, you give us some thought.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I'm always thinking, Bill, always thinking.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
All right, Brad Winster, I didn't mean to go this direction,
but you got me all fired up. When we have
a congressman playing upon our stupidity, acting as if it's
real when it isn't, and you can't vote. Thank you
you can't vote to shut today government. You can't vote
to shut down the government. Then tell everybody I went
the government open. I want to pay the soldiers, but
I'm going to vote not to pay them.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
That can't work.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well, thank you today too for recognizing all those troops
that served in wars that were not necessarily executed well
from the political side, because they did their job and
they're great American heroes.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah they are.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
And you know, I would say, Vietnam, by the way,
expose communism for what it was. And you can, as
an American walk through Vietnam today and you have a
friend there. They do like America. They're still communist country,
don't get me wrong, but it is changed. We made
a difference. We made a difference in the long run,
and I think it was the beginning of the end
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of the Cold War.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Well, I hope we made a difference in a rock
where you served, and also Afghanistan at to Abby's gate,
that decision. When I see when I read all about
the Vietnam War. Now from all the experts who say
that LBJ and Nixon both knew we weren't going to
win the war but wanted to keep it going. For
political reasons. And I'm thinking a lot of guys got
killed for nothing. When I look at the A team
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in I Rock. We had George Bush, we had Dick Cheney,
we had a General Powell, we had Rumsfeld, we had
the A team that was completely screwed up, didn't understand it.
And then we go to Afghanistan and leave Bogram Air
Force Base and thirteen brave service members are murdered at
Abby's Gate and then we're told that was a great success.
Reminds me of Landsman saying I want to keep the
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government open, so I'm going to vote to shut it down.
I'm thinking I live in some never never land. But Brad,
we got to run. Let's have breakfast. Meet you and
Alvin Roer Well. I love Alvin roor.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
That sounds good. Two good friends.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Thank you, Thank you, Congressman, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Let's continue with more and if the line becomes available,
you know the routine. I still have my comments later
on about PG Sittenfeld and now he was screwed, blue tattooed,
and barbecued. Where does PG now go to get back
his reputation? One twenty six, Bill Cunningham News Radio seven
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