11-20-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie talks with Ohio Senator Steve Huffman about the competing federal-state THC product laws. Also Stephen Wiilieford discusses how to prevent mass shootings. Finally Ohio Rep Cindy Abrams breaks down the THC law form the Assembly side.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Bill cunning in the Great America. Welcome this Thursday afternoon
in the tri State. Who's going to start for the
Bengals on Sunday? Tony Benner tells me it's going to
be Joe Burrow and not Joe Flacco. We'll see if
Tony's right or not, because it appears Burrow may play
on Sunday. We'll see what happens against the Patriots. But
until then, I know there's been a lot of difficulties

(00:29):
and uncertainties about hemp and fuge drinks, and marijuana and
so much more CBD. Many of my friends use CBD
to sleep at night. A lot of them drink hemp
and fuge drinks. Some businesses are built upon that fact.
But the Feds just passed the law kind of eliminating
the whole industry within a year. Then each state are
acting separately and joining you. And I now is the
man in charge in Columbus, Senator Steve Huffman, who was

(00:52):
up this morning till one or two o'clock in the
morning working on the bill. And I guess there's been
a little bit of an agreement what to do with this.
And Senator Steve Huffman Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show.
But before we get started, I always like to talk
about American veterans, and yesterday in the Capitol, you and
others honored a World War Two veteran at the Battle
of the Bulge. Can you briefly give me his name

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and why he was honored?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Jim Arisman from Farmersville in Montgomery County for his one
hundredth birthday. He'll be one hundred on Thanksgiving Day. Just
a great honorable man and you know, a great generation.
He told me of the story. You know, he was
injured and got the Purple Heart and the Battle of
the Bulge and he was wounded and laid in a

(01:38):
foxhole for hours till he could be rescued, and just
a great, great American. It was my honor to have
him there in on his hunt of birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
And you know, Senator, that is the greatest generation to
be lying in a hole with temperatures below zero, wounded,
covered up with dirt and grime in order to maybe
save your life. And then to have the success of
the Battle of the Bulge because of the activities of
General Patton, but mainly the soldiers like Jim got it done,
and I'm not sure we have it in us to

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do what that generation did. That's a different issue. So,
first of all, the FEDS past the cr which city
essentially that HEMP and fused businesses have about to one
year to resolve their inventory to sell, and they kind
of pushed it off to the states a little bit.
I understand from our two conversations. There was media reports
yesterday the House and the Senate had reached an agreement,

(02:32):
which wasn't the case. But then there was a kind
of an agreement this morning at one o'clock. Can you
tell the American people as we sit here about twelve
ten pm on Thursday afternoon, what is the status the
HEMP and CBD in the state of Ohio at this point.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, you know, earlier this year, we each had our bill.
We didn't agree to it, so we decided to go
to conference committee. I was chair of the Conference committee,
and you know, the Senate adjourned for the night, and
then I was about to walk out the door and
they said, hold on, I think we got a deal.
And that was about nine thirty, and I called the

(03:10):
committee of eleven thirty and we finished about twelve fifteen.
We had the agreement. The House went to the floor
right after that and voted. They were done about one fifteen,
one thirty, and the Senate doesn't have another session for
a couple of weeks. But I am sure that the

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Senate will honor our agreement and vote to pass the
exact same thing that the House did last night.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Hie.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
So as of one thirty am this morning, about nine
ten hours ago, the deal is struck. But you and
the Senate were out of session. You're going to come
back into session and you're telling me the deal you're
about to announce is going to be. It's going to
pass in about two weeks. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
I believe so the governor will have to sign it
to have this ability to line item veto because there's
some money into it.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
But I am sure that.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
We have the votes in the Senate to pass it
to Mullana the agreement that we have at the House.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
So Tony Benner wants to know what is the deal?
Am I write down the deal? Give me one, two, three,
and four. What's the deal?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Well, there was one was on marijuana. We cleaned up
some things. They'll still be allowed to have twelve plants,
but we cleaned some things up from issue too was
the first part. The second part was in ninety days
after the the bill as signed, all gummies edibles will
be illegal in the state of Ohio. And that is

(04:41):
something that you know that and you've talked to Mike d.
Whine about kids are getting that, So that will all
be illegal. We will continue to allow beverages at five milligrams,
which is a reasonable amount.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
For this year.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
And if the Feds come back and say, you know,
you're allowed to keep beverages and do that, we have
an agreement with the House and Senate that we will
have discussions and make proper regulations with proper restrictions and
proper taxation in the future. But didn't have time to
get that last, but you can continue to get those

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and we will allow places like ryan Geist in Cincinnati
if you can manufacture at a higherli level, but you
got to sell that stuff out of state if other
states allow it.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
So that the major part is ninety days after the
bill is signed, which is two to three weeks from now,
all gummies and edibles in the state of high will
be illegal.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yes, if they have anything over zero point four milligrams
which is very little and not intoxicating.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
If it's above that, it's illegal.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
So the gummies below that are legal because they're not intoxicating.
Of course, the reason you take them is because they're intoxicating.
You don't take because they're not intoxicating. He's taken because
they're intoxicating. And so essentially, by having a very low
level of THC, the purpose of the gummies and edibles
is to have intoxicating effect or some effect, but the

(06:12):
level will be so low wellot and essentially, unless you
want to manufacture below point oh four, there will be
no gummies or edibles legal in Ohio beginning in about
ninety or so days.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
There are some yes, there are some people that like
the low level THHC because it also has the CBD
xtra dials and other things in there that helps them
sleep and in things like that. And you know, another
big thing that was in this bill is you know
there's a ten percent tax and thirty six percent of

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that will go back to the locals of the jurisdictions
where the dispensaries are. The ballot initiative did not have
a way for the state to actually give you give
them the money, and we did that in this bill.
So we've we've honored you know, the ballot initiae of
wording that says you'll get thirty six percent of that

(07:07):
ten percent. And that's going to make a lot of places,
especially places where there's a bunch of dispensaries like the
City of Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
And I And it'll make the City of Cincinnati happy.
They'll get more money. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
That is is wherever the dispensary is, that jurisdictions will
get there thirty six percent of the ten percent tax.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Now, I'm not going to this next point, which is
beverages have to have a very low, very low hemp drinks.
Beverages have to have a very low THC Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Very low?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
That is five milligramts for twelve ounces. You know, I've
seen these things around the country where you know, a
twelve ounce can, I think to me and use one drink. Well,
they'll they'll have twelve lines at can and say each
line is a serving, so and that's twelve ounce.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Can they consider.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Twelve servings at five milligrams? That's sixty milligrams? Right? You
wouldn't be able to stand up at sixty milligrams, so
five milligrams to me, it's probably parallel to a twelve
ounce spear.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
So Ryan guys fifty West right now are selling these
Hampton Feud beverages much above five milligrams, correct, A lot
more than that is currently being sold.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Correct. I don't know how much what they are. They
can do that now.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I know that other states allow for tens, fifteens, and twenties,
so I can't say what they're doing now, but my
understanding is probably at least tennis is also a popular
drink in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
So, and what's the purpose of the litigation of this legislation?
What's the purpose Because some of the Ryan geist in
the fifty West are not happy about government getting involved.
They want the consumer to decide what to do. So
what's the argument that needs to be limited to such
a low amount that you might you don't get a buzz.
The idea, I think is to get a buzz. I

(09:05):
think that's the purpose. I think the purpose of drinking
alcohol is to get a buzz. I think the purpose
of these hemp infused drinks is take the place of
the buzz caused by alcohol. And so, what is the
governmental interest in having shall I say little or no
buzz as opposed a more buzz.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
I would say that.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
One the five metogram is probably equal to one twelve
ounce bud lock.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
So you're right.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
With one of them, you are not going to get
a buzz, but three four you will get a buzz.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
And so it's a.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Reasonable you know, maybe one or two you're feeling good,
and maybe that's the objective of the consumer, but it'll
it'll still get you impaired if you drink too much
of it.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
All right, Now, as far as Delta eight, I know
the governor and you were concerned about teenage boys and
girls going into a convenience store buying Delta eight products.
What's the status of that as far as the age
limit and the amount.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
In ninety days, it'll be totally illegal for adults, younger people,
anybody if it's above that small amount. So we're going
to get rid of all of it. You can still
get some lotions and creams that people put on for
their arthritis, but essentially we'll do away with it because

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it's a lot of it's stuff that comes from China
and kids have been able to get it for a
while and advertise to them and in this bill, it'll
cut out all advertising to children. It has to be
approved by the Marijuana Commission before they could do anything.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
So a teenage boy or girl going in the convenience
store to buy Delta eight and ninety days will be illegal,
that's correct, And you have to be twenty is it
twenty one?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Is that the age.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Twenty one for the beverages and it can only be
sold at current places that have a liquor license or
a bar that has a liquor license, the only place
you'll be able to get it.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Senator Steve Huffin, what's the interaction now of the federal legislation?
There's another provision this from our conversation this morning about
that if the Feds I don't know, but Senator Mitch
McConnell of Kentucky is all exercised along with Ryan Paul
about the hemp farmers are going to be hit by
the bill in Washington which they basically eliminate all of it.

(11:30):
And so, what's the interaction between your bill, which is
going to become long about ninety days or so, as
opposed to the federal piece of legislation.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Hard bill?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Pretty much marrors it. We increase the timeline on the
gummies and edibles. But there's many people in Columbus, in
the industry in Washington believes that the federal government in
the next year will come back and say, hold on,
here's the regulations for you know, the limits on THHC

(12:02):
and hemp in beverages and other things, and then the
states would be able to regulate it however they want
with those guidelines, is what people think. Some states will
just say nope, I don't want any of it. Other
states will say, you know, we'll take even more restrictions
or you know, or follow the federal law.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And so if the Feds change it, then you and
Columbus will change it.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Also, is that correct?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
The House in the sent has an agreement that we
will do our best to come to an agreement to
to most likely preserve only the best. We only have
an agreement to try to preserve long term the beverages
and not the other stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
And beverages at a very low level. Now, Thirdly, I'm
I have a belief that marijuana is in like thirty
six or thirty seven states. The selling, manufacturing, the grow,
the processing of marijuana is all over the country. It's
also true that the FEDS consider marijuana to be a
Schedule one. The FEDS consider it to be similar to

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cocaine or methamphetamine, and there seems to be no appetite
in Washington to make that a Schedule three because the
Trumpster are many Republicans don't think Many Republicans don't think
marijuana should be grown anyway or used by anybodies. So,
assuming that marijuana federally is a Schedule one narcotic which

(13:31):
carries severe penalties, is it an anomaly in the law
that Ohio in many other states permit the growing, processing,
and sell selling of marijuana to millions of people even
though it's against federal law. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
It's a joke. It's a failure of the federal government.
It's you know, don't look behind the curtain and do anything,
and we're going to let you do that, but we
won't let you do banking because as if that's the
federal we will let you cross.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
It's illegal to cross the state.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Lines from Ohio and marijuana to Michigan marijuana. And it's stupid.
They need to come with a Scheduled three drug. And
the other thing it does is medical research. Let's put
it out there and let places like a High State
and you see do research and say this is good
and it helps migraines, it helps post traumatic stress, or

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it doesn't. But we can't do that research as long
as it's a scheduled one drug and thirty six or
whatever states have it. If we have good regulations but
be able to do research and have some other framework
would certainly help chimes.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
We sit here Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
A Kentucky in that drives from Boone County to Hamlety
County to buy marijuana here and then take it back
to Boone County is committing a federal criminal offense.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
That is correct.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
And all these marijuana.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Farmers in OHI and processors that's growing marijuana, processing marijuana,
and selling marijuana are all committing federal criminal offenses.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
That is correct too.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
So why don't the Feds enforce it? One might ask.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
You know, this is multiple administrations for years that have
that that haven't and that's their policy. It's it's just
they they should do something about it, and they won't.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
I've talked to Euston, I've talked to Senator Speaker of
the House. Uh, there's no appetite to take the issue
on it all because they're saying, Okay, we got there,
we got on the books. These federal criminal statutes about
marijuana use similar to growing poppy seeds, are similar to
manufacturing methamphetamine. Marijuana's in the same category as in the
other ones. But wink, wink, nod, nod, we're not going

(15:54):
to force federal criminal statutes, which I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, you know, I don't understand that. But you know,
we were both against the ballot initiative and twenty three
and it happened, and here it is. But we've also
talked about the good part of it. We took a
you know, it's a billion dollar the recreation will be
a billion dollar industry in twenty twenty five in just
the state of Ohio. We took a billion dollars away

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from drug dealers, yep, a billion dollars, and we had
including one hundred or one hundred million that we taxed
that we can put the good use to treat drug
addiction and police enforcement and other things like that. So
there was some good out of the ballot initiatives we've

(16:42):
talked about before, but the federal government could probably get
in on some of that tax stuff, but they have
chose not to.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Multiple Republican Democrats, they don't want to touch it. And
so those the State of ohiores participating in an illegal
criminal syndicate for the selling of illegal drugs federally and
benefiting from it. And I'm going, well, something's wrong here,
all right, Well, Senator Steve Hoffman, I know you've been
working hard of this. At one am, there was no
deal this morning at one thirty, there was a deal

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in ninety days. All that is going to become effective
once the governor signs it. We'll see what happens down
the road. And Senator have a great Thanksgiving with their family,
and God bless you and God bless America.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Senator, thank you very.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Much, you take care, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
God bless you all. Let's continue with more unbelievable and
the Feds don't touch it. But it's illegal, but the
state of Ohio, thirty six other states benefit from it.
And if you drive from Kentucky to Ohio, Ohio to
Michigan back and forth, you're transporting a schedule one narcotic
across state lines. Twenty years in jail. But we're not
going to enforce it. Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundred

(17:49):
WW all right, Dave Keaton hit the music. I think
there's a good probability that Joe Burrow is going to
quarterback for the Bengals on Sunday against the Patriots. It's
a crisis. He appears to be playing Joe Flaccoo didn't
take snaps. Jake the Snake Browning didn't take snaps? Is

(18:11):
Shoe Burrow? And this Morning with Tom Brennaman, of course
Zach Taylor beat around the bush a little bit without
saying so. But we'll see what the next few days bring,
see what happens that would be a positive. God knows
our community and professional sports need a positive. So the
last conversation I just had with you and Senator Huffman

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kind of laid out what's going on. It's kind of,
may I say, use the term absurd that the FEDS
consider marijuana to be the same as cocaine and heroin.
That's someone living in Kenton County would drive across the
Brent Spence Bridge or the Suspension Bridge and buy marijuana
here because you can't buy it except medically in Kentucky,

(18:55):
and then driving across the river. It's the same as
buying heroin or cocaine, which of course medically it is not.
But that's what the law says.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
To me.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
It's absurd when I speak to the FEDS about correcting
putting marijuana as the Schedule three, which is currently as
the Schedule one with the worst drugs, imaginable eyes glaze over.
When I asked a Senator Bernie Marino or Jade Vance
or John used It about it, he said, there's no
appetite here to change anything. There's a chunk of politicians

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and also Americans who don't want availability of marijuana anywhere
at any point for any reason. There's another chunk that says,
you know, marijuana is an adult use of a product
that comes out of the earth, and it's not much
better or worse than alcohol, and as a consequence, we

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ought to regulate it. I'm kind of in that category.
Then there's others who claim that marijuana should be available
to all people, all the time, in all circumstances. So
you put those three together, and that not much happens
in Washington whatsoever. So all I can say is that
I don't know what's going to happen. Federally, it is

(20:07):
illegal for you to possess marijuana in the state of Ohio, Kentucky,
Indiana because it's against federal law. However, the federal laws
are not enforced when it comes to marijuana. By wink wink. No,
not a gentleman's agreement. They've told that the fifty states
go what you do, what you want to do, and
we're not going to enforce the law. Why have a

(20:27):
law on the books unless it's enforced, especially if it's
a federal criminal statute. And I don't get good answers
from anyone as to why that's the case.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
In OHIOO it's say.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
One billion dollar annual industry that generates about one hundred
million dollars in taxes plus thousands of jobs, and so
Ohio is in better shape than other states. In California,
for example, they thought they would have tax revenues at
three billion dollars a year, but because of the non
enforcement of the of the drug statutes and the marijuana

(20:59):
production illegals in California that the illegal market is much
lower than the legal market. So people knowing that they
can buy marijuana from your friendly neighborhood drug dealer, is
going to do it when the price is fifty percent
of the authorized one. And so all I know is
this is all strewed up and it's as clear as mud.

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So when the Feds passed a few days ago the
Continuing Resolution had a provision that got rid of all
the hemp and fused products CBDs in cans for example,
got rid of all that. And you have everyone one
year to get rid of their inventory. Now you just
search Senator Huffman talk about well, we understand that, however,

(21:43):
it might be less than this state, might be more.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
So I don't know what Ryan geister fifty West does
when they're in violation of federal law and maybe maybe
not in violation of state law. Not sure, And we
have a coming up later. Cindy Abram, state representative, who
was this morning up to about one thirty in the
morning dealing with the same issue. Yeah, I think I'm

(22:07):
on top of what the issues are. But if you
ask me what percentage of milligrams of hemp slash CBD
hemp TC can be in the right ryn guys can
I couldn't answer today what it is. I don't use
the product, and I trust Americans like you to make
those decisions. For yourself. Marijuana and THCHC and CBD and
gummies are much better for you than tequila. However, the

(22:31):
craft beer industry, as you might know, is dying on
the vine. It was overregulated, overproduced, and people have moved
on from that. Those in their twenties and thirties, they
want to buy CBD hemp infused beverages as opposed to
other alcoholic intoxicating liquors. And so what it is, I

(22:52):
have no idea. It's pretty tough. I think to have
federal criminal statutes that carry serious penalties, not in fours,
which is the marijuana.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
When you talk to JD.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Vance, he'll tell you he doesn't think the proliferation of
marijuana is a good idea. And when you talk to
Donald Trump, he'll tell you he didn't like. He doesn't drink,
doesn't smoke, doesn't use email, doesn't text. He's an old
schooler that says, I don't think people should be drinking alcohol,
and I don't think people should be using marijuana at all.
So their argument is if you take away it as

(23:24):
a Schedule one and it'll be more available, we want
to make it less available, is what the Republicans say
in Washington, and the states go on their own and
do whatever they're going to do.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I know one thing. The state's stable.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Hi is making a boatload of money and taxes, and
now local government's going to make some too, So we'll
see what happens. But if the Feds change, which is
likely because of Ran Paul and Mitch McConnell, and allow
hemp to be grown, has to be done within the
next year. If it's not done, then there'll be a
federal law against hemp infused beverage products, but not a

(23:59):
state law. Then the state's got to decide what it's
going to do. I have Do you have any idea
what I just said? I have no idea, but I
know one thing. I'm a great American. Secondly, once again,
leading the news generally is his character that has caused
such damage in American society, Jeffrey Epstein, and it's the

(24:21):
lead story in the national news almost every newscast, almost
every broadcast at night. The media is fixated on Jeffrey
Epstein as a precursor to getting Donald Trump, when now
it appears likely that more Democrats are involved with Epstein
than Donald Trump was ever involved with Epstein. Likely this

(24:41):
story may die on the vine. So far, we know
that Bill Clinton's oil portrait in the home of Jeffrey
Epstein as the former president sitting across the chair in
a blue dress and black high heels. That's our President,
Bill Clinton. They were buddies, they were friends, they traveled together,
did things together. King Jeffries, the leader of the House

(25:05):
of Representative's Democrat from Brooklyn, wanted campaign money and donations
from Jeffrey Epstein. That came out recently because of the
documents released by the House Oversight Committee. Then you have
a certain state US Congressman, Stacy Plasquette, who, while asking
questions in twenty nineteen trying to get Trump, Jeffrey Epstein

(25:28):
himself was texting with the US representative to prompt questions
and answering questions from her about Jeffrey, about Donald Trump
and Michael Cohen. So the Democratic Party is up to
their eyeballs in this thing. Because of that, and because
of the seventeen visits that Jeffrey Epstein made into the
Clinton presidency, and by the way, none zero under Donald Trump,

(25:52):
I would anticipate the media will be less inclined to
cover any more Jeffrey Epstein because after all, number one's
number two he was a Democrat. Number three he gave
money to Democrats. Number four Democrats embraced him repeatedly in
Manhattan and in fact, when he was freed of his
criminal sentence many years ago in twenty eight twenty nine

(26:15):
in Miami, when he came back to Manhattan, he had
a big party in his mansion with the girls and
George slap Monopolis was there along with Katy cork in
the Hollywood and the New York elite were present, mainly Democrats.
It's pretty hard to be a Republican in New York City,
would you agree? So from all that, pretty hard to
be a Republican in Cincinnati, just asked Corey Bowman. But nonetheless,

(26:40):
he ran in Democratic circles, he gave money to Democrats,
he supported Democratic presidents. And the guy was a perv.
He was a child molester, and he's likely right now
in the bottom of hell for what he did to
those girls. And by the way, the girls are now
women in their thirties, forties, and fifties, and most are

(27:01):
multi millionaires, having been part of lawsuits constantly suing banks
and brokerage firms and anyone else connected to any of
the businesses of Jeffrey Epstein. The class action attorneys still
have many lawsuits pending in which the victims of Jeffrey
Epstein will be paid millions of dollars in addition to

(27:21):
what they've been paid already, which is just compensation for
the sins and crimes inflicted upon them. I'm still waiting
to hear more than names. Some like Senator George Mitchell
appears to have died. He's dead, four or five others.
But there had to be hundreds, if not thousands, of
men involved in these activities that is, molesting these girls

(27:44):
and raping them at the behest of Julane Maxwell and
Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Who are they?

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Do you know who they are?

Speaker 1 (27:54):
According to some reports, all the names have been known
and there's three or four and that's it. That's not possible.
If there were a thousand girls, a thousand girls and
young women. I said, a thousand, there's got to be
thousands of men. And is it a hoax? So who
are they name? The names and the fact they're fearing

(28:14):
for their life. I don't buy that to a large extent,
because if they're fearing for the life by disclosure that
the men who did this would be better off to
off these victims before their names are known, which isn't happening,
nor should it happen. So I have no idea what's
happening with Jeffrey Epstein. I think is an American You

(28:35):
and I? What do we care about? I think we
care about the economy. I think we care about inflation.
I think we care about Thanksgiving dinner. I think we
care about economic issues, our job, we care about inflation,
care about the price of gasoline, we care about the groceries.
We care about our family's life. We care about a

(28:56):
little bit about foreign affairs. Yes, we do care about
Israel and ukrainet c. Where does Jeffrey Epstein rank as
far as concerns in your life? I would think is
at the bottom of your existence? Is worried about Jeffrey
Epstein and whether he's in hell or not, who he
had sex with, who he didn't have sex with. According
to one media account, he wasn't capable of having normal sex. Frankly,

(29:19):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
I don't want to know.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
It is what it is. The victims have been compensated,
and the one woman mainly involved. Julane Maxwell's looking at
twenty years in prison and the media is anguish, he
is too much toilet paper and the guy the main
perpetrator is dead and that those who contributed money to
will be out it and let let's.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Move on with life.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Is that possible, because now it appeals appears certain that
Donald Trump was not involved. In fact, NBC News made
the classic statement, there's no evidence to indicate to date
that Donald Trump has been involved directly indirectly in any
of the criminal problems and difficulties of Jeffrey Epstein. But
he knew him. Pictures are taken with him. The media

(30:01):
puts his picture up all the time, but not the
pictures with him and the King Jeffries, or him and
Chuck Schumer and Jeffrey Epstein and the Clintons and Jeffrey
Epstein and all the other Democrats that he gave money to,
and mainly it was Democrats. So I'm waiting to hear
what is the what's to be determined by Pam Bondy.
She won't release a bunch of information because she can't.

(30:24):
Whatever she doesn't release, they'll have more conspiratorial theorists at it.
At the end of the day, do you care about
Jeffrey Epstein? Do you care about his victims? Of course
I don't know any of them, but they've been well
compensated for the injuries inflicted upon them, and they're going
to get more compensation. More lawsuits are pending against various
banks and financiers that Jeffrey Epstein interacted with. Anyone who

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touched Jeffrey Epstein is being sued by ravenous class action lawyers.
And it is what it is. And like I say,
let's move on with life. But that's I'm tired of
the Jeffrey Epstein story, are you? Let's continue? Coming up
after one o'clock today will be a man who we're
going to talk about gun use when it comes to

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gun free zones and how it would save more lives.
Of that was permitted plus later on as state Representative
Sidney Abrams and will Joe Burrow play quarterback for the
Bengals on Sunday against the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
The smart money says, yes, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Twelve fifty five Home to Your BENGALSUS Radio seven hundred
WW by Billy Cunningham, The Great American and the Great
Debate has joined every time as a terrible incident involving
a gun they need. Your reaction to the radical left

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is to ban more guns and make it more difficult
to carry, and the media plays along with us as
if gun free zones work. I'm looking at some recent
examples as a terrible event in Oakland, California, were a
career criminal twenty seven year old Cedric Irv for some reason,
shot a football coach John Beam in the head. We
have terrible incidents, and for example in Charlotte where a

(32:08):
mentally ill career criminal stabbed to death twenty three year
old Ukrainian recently, and there's going to be an arrayment.
On Monday, there was an incident in Chicago transit where
a person who has fifty fifty arrests for various nasty
offenses set a woman on fire literally on the subway

(32:29):
system in Chicago, and that was awful. It's terrible, and
it goes on all over the country, and the reaction
is always always, well, we've gotta have more gun free zones.
We have to have more circumstances, whether it's a Catholic
church in Minnesota or elsewhere, Johny, you not I now
is Stephen Williford is with the Gun Owners of America,

(32:51):
has some interesting statistics on gun free zones and the
damage they cause. And Steven Williford, welcome again to the
Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, a little bit
about the facts of Coach John Beam. What happened to
him in Oakland, California, at the hands of Cedric Irvin.

Speaker 5 (33:07):
Well, for all we know is that Cedric Irvin and
I really don't like using their names. I don't like
to give them any kind of notice, but apparently killed
this coach. It's a very highly respected coach and well
loved and stuff, and we don't know a whole lot

(33:27):
about it. But we have to start getting rid of
gun free zones. We have to start learning to carry
and carry daily and sometimes even in my own home,
I have my gun on.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Me, you know.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
And it's terrible to think that the world is that way.
But that's what the Second Amendment is about. It's also
about fighting a tyrannical government. So it's time for people
to arm themselves and be able to do within themselves
and their families and the people around them. Ninety three

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percent of all mass shootings happen in gun free zones,
and if you expect the police to stop it, the
police are second responders. You're your only responder. You're the
only one that can make a difference. So please go
to gunowners dot org and sign up. Annual membership is

(34:30):
only twenty five dollars.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Well, let's talk about gun free zones and normally the
knee jerk reaction. And I've seen it outside of churches.
I've seen it outside of supermarkets. I've seen it outside
department stores. I've seen it in baseball stadiums for example,
or football stadiums. Almost all of them have signs up
the saying you know, caring a gun is illegal. In fact,
in many states you can go to prison as a

(34:54):
legal gun owner if you happen to carry a gun
inside of a football or basketball or you actually can
go to prison for that. And even in the state
of Ohio where I live, we have laws that we
have an open carry state, as most of the Midwest is.
But if the sign is up and you miss the
sign it says gun free, gun free zone, can't carry

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a gun and you're found in possession of a gun,
you can go to jail for six months. Not for
doing anything wrong other than carrying a gun. Why can
you tell me the mentality? Blue cities, Blue states, the
most violent are the gun free zones.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
I just can't get around their thought process because criminals,
criminals don't care about the signs. Criminals don't care about
whether they can even own a gun or not. They
don't care. They're gonna, they're gonna break the law. That's
one they're called criminals, and we need to understand that
and that they are unconcerned, and so wouldn't it make

(35:53):
more sense if good people, good people like myself, could
carry in those places to be able to protect yourself,
your family, and everyone around you. You know, someone told
me one time. I told someone one time, I hope
you are never involved in a mass shooting like what

(36:16):
happened in Sutherland Springs, Texas. But if you are, find
someone myself to stand behind, because I don't care about
your politics. I don't care about your race, I don't
care about your gender. I don't care about who you
think your gender is. I will stand in between evil
and innocence and risk my life. And she said, I'd

(36:37):
never risked my life for you, And I told her,
I don't want you to just don't stand in my way.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Now, give me the facts. You're the author of a
book a town called Sutherland Springs, Faith and Heroism through Tragedy,
revolving around the twenty seventeen event hero with a Gun.
Tell the American people what happened there and why you
wrote the book.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
Well in Sutherland Spring, Texas, I was home on November fifth,
twenty seventeen, and I heard shooting. My daughter made me
aware of it. I heard multiple gunfires being shot. I
ran to my safe. I grabbed an AR fifteen and
a handful of ammom. I ran across the street with

(37:19):
no shoes on. They called me the barefoot defender. Now
and people say they couldn't believe that I didn't put
shoes on. I said, you're lucky that I had pants on.
Pantiless defender and be a little creepy barefoot defender is okay.
I was able to engage with the mass shooter that
had murdered twenty six of my neighbors and friends, and

(37:43):
I hit him six out of six rounds. He hit
the truck in front of me. I ran behind a truck.
He shattered a windshield of a car that was behind me.
He hit the house behind me, and I was able
to win that shootout, and he lost. And had it
not been for my second Amendment, and yet my ability

(38:05):
to own an AR fifteen, he had on Class three
body armor and a ballistic bullet proof helmet and I
had none of that. Had it had not been for
me able to own an AR fifteen, and they had
been counted among the dead.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
How many more would he have killed? How many more
would he have murdered? How many victims were there? Many
other victims about to be killed?

Speaker 5 (38:35):
He wounded twenty others and he was going around from
pew to pew, finishing them off. So out of the
church there were forty nine people in that church that day.
Twenty six died, twenty were wounded. Three people walked out
of that church without a bullet three.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
As far as the police, how long was it before
the police finally arrived? Because I don't blame the police
on this. You get a nine to one one call
and you do your best to get there. But several
minutes went by.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Correct, I'm Sutherland Springs is a very small town. We
don't even we're not incorporated. We don't have any police
in Sutherland Springs and from the first nine one one
call and we have it on video at the Valero
Ice House across from the church. To see her on
the phone. It took the police nineteen minutes before she

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heard the sirens and hung.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Up the phone.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
And no, I do not blame the police. They were
coming as fast as they could, but it took them
nineteen minutes to get there.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
As far as AR fifteen or fifteen is, the is
the illegal weapon in many states, AR fifteen's basically simply
some inanimate metal object that can be used for good
or for ill. I'm always amazed trying to criminalize and
inanimate metal objects. A gun has killed no one. An

(40:09):
AR fifteen never has done anything other than sit there
to be used, hopefully the right way. And to criminalize
the possession of an AR fifteen. The media loves to
say AR fifteen. It sends signals to the radical left
that has to be banned. And I think there's something
in the range. There's millions of AR fifteen's already in
the marketplace, and it's already illegal for someone to use

(40:32):
that gun illegally to commit a crime. It's already a
crime to do that. But guns do not commit any violence.
It's people carrying guns that commit violence.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
What's really interesting, and this is by the FBI stats themselves.
More people are beaten to death with hammers every year
than shot with rifles in general, and that includes AR
fifteen's the bolt action to whatever kind of rifle, that's
all rifles in general. More are beat to death with

(41:01):
hammers every year. Should we go after Stanley tool manufacture
and ban hammers. A gun is a tool, just as
a hammer is. And in the right hands, a gun
can build a beautiful mansion, and in the wrong hand
someone can bledge in someone to death with the very

(41:24):
same tool that built the mansion. And we're not out
there trying to ban hammers. And you can look that
stat up on law enforcement. More people are beat to
death with hands and feet every year than rifles in general.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I've seen the numbers like six or seven hundred across
the country are beaten to death those killed with a
rifle or a shotguns about five hundred. You're more likely
to be beaten to death or club to death. Then
you're a shot on airfit. One thing that drives me
a little bit. Steven Wiliford of gun owners of America.
Is this that we never refer to a car as

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car violence. For example, there's about forty thousand Americans that
die every year because of automobile accidents, but the media
would never respond to a story like that's to say
it's car violence. No, it's a drunk driver driving the
car that causes difficulty. It's someone without a license driving
a car. It's an unlicensed, illegal truck driver driving a truck.

(42:27):
We would never refer to a vehicular accident as car
violence because it's the driver who drives the car that
makes it criminal, much like we refer to guns. Though
with gun violence, inanimate metal objects sitting by themselves commit
no offense at all, but we want to stigmatize the weapon.
Calling a gun violence. We would never call all the

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forty thousand deaths of Americans car violence because we focus
on the person and not the vehicle causing the death.
Can you smell what I'm cooking?

Speaker 5 (42:58):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (42:59):
And look at the Christmas parade where they ran where
the guy ran over? How many people with a car
at the parade? You don't hear him say assault cars?
You know, we've got to stop these assault cars. You know, Uh,
where does this.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
End, you know, and it ends with eventually Americans figuring
out that guns in the hands of the right people
is are good things and that there's no such a
thing as car violence. There is such a thing, according
to media's gun violence, but gun violence only happens when
in the hands of the wrong person. Well, Steven Wilford,
go ahead, please.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
I've got some more subsists that if people want to
hear him, and that is national stats is guests, police
officers involved in shootings. Guess how many rounds they fire
in a shooting a shootout.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
I assume quite a few national average.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
When a police officer gets into a gunfight, he fires
twenty four rounds national average. You want to know how
many rounds out of those twenty four rounds, what percentage
he hits?

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Not many?

Speaker 5 (44:16):
National average? A police officer hits seventeen rounds or seventeen.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Percent, seventeen percent like that, like two or three out
two two or three.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Yes, out of twenty four And the national average of
a civilian in a gunfight fifty So outside of gun
free zones, fifty two percent of all gunfights that that

(44:50):
were outside of gun free zones are stopped by civilians.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Right, civilians are the first line, first line of defense.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
And out of all of those two thousand and seven
to twenty twenty one, out of all of those, not
one in and so the bystander was hit by a civilian,
non law enforcement.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Well the truth will set us free once again. Stephen
Wiliford is Gunowners dot org, gunowners dot org. Know your rights,
know what the law is. And Stephen Wiliford, thanks for
coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And thank you, I
guess on baff of the American people for saving so
many lives at Sutherland Springs. But your point is a
good one that the Second Amendments there for a reason,

(45:32):
and get armed, know what your rights are, and be
the first line of defense against the criminal element. And
Steven Wiliford, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Thank you, Steven, Thank you, and God bless God, bless America.
Let's continue with more Bill Cunningham, the Great American Live
at your home at Joe Burrow likely throwing the football
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Speaker 3 (45:55):
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Speaker 6 (45:57):
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Speaker 1 (46:02):
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Speaker 6 (46:10):
I'm not going to accept loosing.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Well, seg.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
All the indicators are that Joey Burrow is going to
play for the Bengals on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
What did you know? And when did you know?

Speaker 5 (46:20):
It?

Speaker 8 (46:21):
Windows my whole career and and everybody that that we
have in that locker room, all the coaches we have.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
You know, things are going to change year to year,
but our windows always open.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Gotta win seven games in a row? Is that possible
under Joey b Yes?

Speaker 3 (46:38):
Anything?

Speaker 1 (46:38):
But do they have a defense? Where is the defense?
Where's the d When Bobby Knight went back to Bloomington,
you at the end of his life, he said one
thing to the crowd, defense defense. What is defense? Does
Burrow play linebacker? What about defense? Noom says no, can

(46:59):
he play defense?

Speaker 3 (47:00):
No? No, no?

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Why did he get run over like the secondary? And
that guy Washington last sunth he's got more issues in
a magazine.

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Stand thank you.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
I thought him at defensive tackle or nosegar they said, yesterday, Willie,
he went through eleven and eleven drills and it was
act like he just he's been there for like the
last six months. Yes, thank you, Loam says yes, so
he is going to play Nosegar.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Well you heard Tommy Brenhaman had Taylor on.

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They should raise the price of the buffet to nineteen
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Willie you Tomorrow night, let's see Elder and X will
meet at pay Course Stadium in the Regional Division one
Regional final. You know the big story though, is the
May girls wrestling team. We're going to run the concessions

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and they're losing four thousand dollars and wieners and buns.
The OHSAA is going to reimburse them somewhat. They just
have a big hot dog part not Mason but or something.
But is that the big story tomorrow night? Do you think?

Speaker 9 (49:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (49:20):
At the Mason Concessionaire, they're not able to sell popcorn.
No bring it down here, Allie bringing out I bet
you would. Yeah, let's see Mike Mike Dyer a Channel
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have been sold thus far for tomorrow night's game.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Which game you mean the st Els?

Speaker 5 (49:39):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
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Far well you can do still do it. Ohsa ohsaa
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don't ask me what about Tata?

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Bring her here, let her do the halftime.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Get that guy from Puerto Rico is unavailable? Who the
Puerto Rican halftime show?

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Bad Bad Bunny. Bunny is doing money.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
He's doing the Super Bowl. I'm mean to be interesting.
He's gonna sing and wait, he's gonna sing, but not
in English. He's gonna give you time to learn Spanish segment.
Know your roles, shut your mouth. Isn't this a great
American event? I might ask?

Speaker 3 (50:23):
We well.

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You know there's a story on Fox News today about
Amy Robach. As you might recall, an ABC News reporter
in twenty nineteen. Twenty nineteen, add the story of Jeffrey Roberts,
et cetera, Jeffrey Epstein wrapped in a bow and she
wanted to air it. Yeah, and it mainly was about

(51:07):
the victims of Bill Clinton and the airfare and the
crap and the money he donated and the girls.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
That were involved.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
You know what, you know what Disney Slash ABC News said, now,
bah no, we're not going to air that, and she
wrapped it in a bow. Now here we are what
six years later? Yeah, and suddenly is the biggest story
in the world because they want to use that to
hurt Trump, which is a lie. But nonetheless, when it
hurt Clinton, guess what, they wouldn't er it when it
might hurt Trump, which it didn't. Now they want to

(51:38):
air it. Do you see the differential? Yeah, go ahead,
let's see Willie College football. Last night, Miami beat Buffalo
thirty seven to twenty. So the RedHawks are eligible for
a ninth time in the last ten seasons. Now to
go to a bowl game. What about the quarterbacks?

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Lie?

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Well, he left.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Can you imagine getting paid eight hundred thousand dollars to
play quarterback for Miami and then say I'm I'm gonna
stayed there. He got the money. Now he says I'm
leaving because I want to get ready for the NFL Draft,
leaves his team high and dry. Then it beats Buffalo anyway,
Well this Thomas Goottkowski at his first started quarterback of

(52:17):
TD passing a scoring run. Got it done last night
for the RedHawks and they played the Buffalo Bills. It
was at University enough University of Buffalo had about twelve
people there and it was snowing, though, said Red's update.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Let's see Red said.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Nick Krawl said, yesterday Eli daily Cruz played hurt last
season with a quad injury. One hundred and twenty six
days now till opening day.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
How about this?

Speaker 1 (52:39):
According to the ABC News reporter that legal did not
clear it because of the Palace in London. They didn't
want stories about Prince Andrew and the clintonisas want nuts
and said if you do this, we're going to sue you.
She said, I had this interview interview with Virginia Jeuffrey.
I couldn't get it on. The legal said, we're concerned

(53:02):
about the Palace and about the Clintons. So the whole
Jeffrey Epstein thing was spiked for the last six years.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
No, but you got a comment on that. Well, that's
the way America is. I guess she says.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Every day I get more and more urinated off. I
had this story six years ago and ABC News refused
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Speaker 3 (54:23):
How about that if we're not impressed.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
According to one personality, in twenty nineteen, ABC News admittedly
refused to air the investigation of Jeffrey Epstein because it
did not meet repertorial standards. It didn't have confirmation. If
ABC News had aired it, then the victims would have
had justice and the American people would have had the answers.

(54:48):
According to the reporter herself, let's.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
Go to someone who is in their right mind.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
The Trumpster said the other day, but that lady said,
where are you from ABC News?

Speaker 3 (54:58):
He said, they had to revoke your life? Mary Bruce.
What's her name? I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
It depends either if it's an R or a Trump
and one of the thing's got me fired up.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Dick Cheney died.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yes, he was the architect of the disaster in Iraq
in Afghanistan, killing seven thousand American soldiers an addition of
four hundred thousand others Afghans and Iraqis.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
He's one of the most unhappy sad.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Marty Brenneman said the same thing about when he met him,
that that guy's in the world all of his own
and now he claims his daughter, I'm sure she's a
clown too, said that she didn't want the president or
vice president to come to Dick Cheney's funeral. Now he's
a hero of the media and the Democrats. He's criticizing

(55:49):
Donald Trump. Dick Cheney. He was a disaster. Bush forty
three was a disaster as president. He's a nice guy, though,
you agree, Yeah, spend time with him in the White House.
Nice guy. But he came into on opening day and
twirled me around. So let's take some photos. And he said,
Marty Brennan is Marty Brenahan. Yeah, Dave, can you find

(56:09):
the comments of Bush forty three introducing Marty Brenahan. I'm
sorry Marty Brenneman as Marty Marty Brenahan.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
I don't care. There you go.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
But if the media can use the Chinese to attack Trump,
it's done.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Can you comment on that? No, because it's all same
old The.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Democrats are asking the military to ignore orders from the president.
That's like seditious, right, I can'derstand it.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
When I say something, I mean it.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Oh, okay, what did he succeed positively in being the
president for those eight years? Can you explain, was it
a rock Afghanistan that far back? Well, I do remember
he was an unmitigated disaster. He actually I thought we're
going to do fine. Yesterday shows what I know.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
And how about this.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Amy Roeboch, the ABC News reporter, left ABC News in
twenty twenty three as the result of an exposed extra
marital affair she had with the co host TJ. Holmes, right,
who was also dismissed from the network. Correct, those two
were doing the wild thing on and off the air.
They had to do it early on in the evening

(57:22):
because they had to get up at what four o'clock
in the morning or something. But now she's freaking seed,
barbecued and ostracized. But she's the one that had the
whole Epstein story. ABC News wouldn't put it out. We
don't have confirmation it didn't happen, right, And now.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
They do that today It's on the air in ten
seconds or less.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
It's unbelievable. Andy mack all right, seg but the big
news is Joe Yes or no? Is nine playing on
Sunday against the Patriots?

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yes or no? Yes? What did he say? This morning?
With Tom Brenahan?

Speaker 1 (57:57):
He gave an indication that he's going to be playing
was the indication that they, well, give me the indication.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
One thing is they need a little juice there.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Although they've had what thirty some points and they get
beat but you know, to bring him back. The crowd's
going to be charged up with him being back. They
need a victory badly, and they need about six or
seven more. Tony Pike told me, hopefully they get hurt again.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
God forbid. Can they win the next seven games and
win a few of them? Yeah, got to win seven segment. Well,
see what happened.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Would you hold him back or would you play him
if he if they win seven in a row. Zach
Taylor ought to be the coach of the year. I
don't care who it is. Gotta beat the Ravens twice,
gonna beat the Bills, It plays Golphin, Patriots, got to
beat the Dolphins, Gotta beat the Browns at the end
of the year. What if they win six in a
row the brown Oh, that'd be perfect. Just don't get hurt.
The Browns are like one in eighty five or something.

(58:52):
Can Joe wear bubble rap? I'd wrap him up right now.
But the offense is not the problem. That's why him
to play nose guard. Can he play nose guard? No?

Speaker 3 (59:03):
Come on, like putting me out there. Why can't you
play nose guard because I'm not big enough. How about
Joe Burrow? He can do anything? No, he can do
anybody quarterbacks. He didn't do anything. You think he wants
to be like Tory Hunter. He can do any defense. Yes,
of course he's hurt too. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Say give me out of the student's report after two
o'clock today. We have former police officer, current state representative
Sidny Abrams will be here after two o'clock.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Will you get out of of a foggy and rotten
day on this Thursday.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
I'm shipping my clubs to Naples, Florida. Enough is enough.
We leave you with the immortal words of the stood report.

Speaker 8 (59:44):
The windows my whole career, and and everybody that that
we have in that locker room, all the coaches we have.

Speaker 6 (59:50):
You know things are gonna change year to year, but
our windows always open.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
It's the window. Don't open the window today or next week.
You got to get ten star temp star quality. And
you can feel on seven hundred WLW Bill Cunning in

(01:00:17):
the Great America and the House and the Senate were
working hard this morning till about one or two o'clock am,
and the House passed and then it passed on to
the Senate. And earlier you heard from the Senator Steve
Huffman about two hours ago that the Senate can't pass
it because they're not in session for another two weeks
so after Thanksgiving. But the House did pass it. Joining
you and I now a state Representative, Sidney Abrams, who

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sent many years as a police officer and now is
the state rep from the western side of Hamlet County.
And the House actually made passed and did its job.
The Senate will do it in about two weeks. So
Sidney Abrams, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
can you tell us first of all what was passed
this morning in the House about one thirty am.

Speaker 7 (01:00:59):
Yes, so, well, thanks for having me appreciate it. And yeah,
we were in session very late this morning. It was
a long day. We got a lot of great things done,
but we ended up sending back over to the Senate.
As you know, the Conference Committee report on Senate Bill
fifty six, and as you know, we voted it out
a couple of weeks ago. The Senate didn't agree with

(01:01:20):
some of the things we did, so they went to
a conference committee. That's all very normal in the process,
and they worked out differences. Now, what it does number one,
and most importantly it whatever the voters voted for on
issue too, it preserves that of pay because we respect
the voters and what they did an issue too. And
but we added some protections right, mostly for our kids,

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and we don't want people driving around smoking joints and
being high and you know when they're driving. So that's
number one. Number two host community, so all of our
communities in the state of Ohio that decided to host
a dispensary, so you know, there's a bunch of them
in Hamilton County they're going to get. It's the state money.
Remember an issue too. They were supposed to get thirty

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six percent of the revenue and that money has been
collected by the state and it's in holding until this
bill is going to release that money to our local communities,
which by the way, at least in Harrison, they're using
that money for our first responders, for our police and fire.
And I know a lot of other communities that agreed
to have a dispensary are using that money also for
our first responders, So that money is going to be released.

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Thirty six percent of that revenue is going to go
back to our locals. Now public safety. What it did
was Number one, we are prohibiting smoking in public and intoxication.
That makes sense, right, Okay, that's number one. Number two,
they cannot package this marijuana or any of any of

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this using any type of packaging that is attractive to kids. Okay,
so think like, you know, you look like gummy bears
and you know whatever else they do bright packaging.

Speaker 4 (01:02:57):
That kids would be attracted to to buy, So.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Can't do that.

Speaker 7 (01:03:01):
Of course, all their advertising has to be at least
five hundred feet from schools and churches. And then we're
talking about you know OVII right, you can't smoke the
joint when you're driving, just like you can't drink a
beer when you're driving. You can't smoke a joint when
you're a passenger, just like you can't drink a beer
when you're a passenger. That's going to be of course,
kindalyzed criminally, and that helps our law enforcement because at

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this point, you know, it's like, well, issue too, wasn't
really clear. We had to clarify it. So here's the
clarification for our law, for our law enforcement. We reduce
the THHD potency level to seventy percent for extracts, and
then of course maintaining the thirty five percent threshold for
the plant material. And employers of course can continue to say, hey,

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we don't want you to smoke marijuana here while you're
working at you know, company, whatever, and they can take
appropriate action. You know, So if they come in and
they're smoking a joint in the bathroom on their on
their break, the employee can of course say that's not
allowed here in our policy, and they can go ahead
and take appropriate actions from there. Like I said earlier,

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we're waiting to see what the FEDS do as far
as the THHD drinks and all of that. We didn't
really see any action on that last night because again
we're waiting to see what the FEDS do. And that's
it for right now. What questions do you have for me?

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
I'll stop there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Ryan Diyson ran Dyson fifty West. They're making the intoxicating
hemp and fused drinks. What is the status, What is
the level of THC content in the cans? That are
being sold. I mean, that's a big business in Ohio.
What's the status, right.

Speaker 7 (01:04:38):
So what we did in fifty six, Senator fifty six
was and they came to us and we hear in them.
Of course, our local dispensaries are our local brewers, which
we love. In Hamilton County. They wanted five milligrams of
thhd or less to be legal for on premises sale
and consumption, which again we all agree with that, and

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then ten milligrams of casey or higher will be sold
to take home because you know, at the end of
the day, our folks that own breweries distilleries, I mean
they don't want to, of course, have you totally hammered
or impaired and drive your car. I mean they can
lose everything they have for overserving you. So again we

(01:05:23):
all agree on that, and that's what that's what Senate
Bill fifty six did. But again we're in a holding
pattern with the FED. So right now they can sell
what they're doing right now, and fedes put a year
time limit on it. We shall see what happens there, because,
as you know, no different than up here in Columbus.
When we pass a bill, and sometimes things look great

(01:05:44):
on paper, and then in real life it's like, well,
we need to kind of go back and tweak.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
This a little bit.

Speaker 7 (01:05:49):
And we can because it's called the Ohio Revised Code
the RS for revised, which means we can change it.
If there's something that's going amiss, you know, in real life,
then we can make the change to it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
So all right, So right now, federally they give a
one year time period for hemp infused drinks to clean
out the inventory and to get rid of it. In
Ohio right now, are you going to wait for the
final resolution until three to six months from now? And
if the Feds do nothing and keep that the way
it is today, then federal law would be sideways with

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Ohio state law.

Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Correct?

Speaker 7 (01:06:26):
So we're waiting to see at this point, at least
that's what the decision was at one point thirty last
night or this morning.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
This morning, and so at this point and the Senate's
not past it, the Governor's not signed it, And if
all that happens, then the products being sold at ryan
Geist right now are still legal at least for the
next ninety days, maybe for a year, based upon what
happens in three or four months, we're in a holding
pattern to see what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Is that fair to say?

Speaker 7 (01:06:54):
That's fair to say yep.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Now, Secondly, as an attorney that used to do a
lot of marijuana work, it was always illegal federally and
statewide to possess, to grow, to process, and then to
sell marijuana. Right now, federally it is still illegal because
there's a Schedule one narcotic similar to cocaine and metha

(01:07:16):
fveetamine and heroin.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Marijuana is with that group.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
So federally the Feds are saying you can't use it,
you can't sell it, can't go across state lines. That's
a federal crime. But thirty six states might be thirty
seven states now consider it okay to grow it, process it,
and sell it. Isn't that kind of ridiculous they have
the Feds say that marijuana is a Schedule one narcotic

(01:07:42):
and most of the states say it is not. And
couldn't the Feds come in and shut down the whole
operation if they wanted to?

Speaker 7 (01:07:50):
Well, I think what you have to remember, especially in Ohio,
the voters have spoken, they have voted for this, and
we respect that as the General Assemble, and we have
to keep that in mind. So if it were up
to me, look, I voted no for what it's worth.
I mean, look a former police officer, it is what
it is. That's how I feel about it. But the
voters have spoken and they voted for it. So as

(01:08:12):
a lawmaker, I respect that and I voted for this
bill because again, it is legal in Ohio. The voters
voted for it. So what we did here is just
put some guardrails again, protecting kids, protecting public safety, making
sure that you're not going to be smoking and driving,
just like you can't drink and drive. So at the
end of the day, that's what I'm focused on. And yes,

(01:08:33):
we shall see what the feeds do, but I think
they need to do with the program quite frankly, and
look at what the states are doing. That's my opinion
as a state lawmaker.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
So when I asked Senator John Houstad or Bernie Marino,
I talked to jd Vance about this, he said, there's
no appetite in Washington to change that. So it's like, okay, well,
I think that people have spoken, which is consider marijuana
to be not dissimilar to alcohol. It needs to be, yes, league,
but regulated I think that in Ohio it's about a

(01:09:03):
billion dollars in sales every year, generating about one hundred
million dollars in taxes on marijuana. But it just seems
odd that if the Feds want to shut down the
whole deal, they can. So if someone lives in Boone
County and wants to drive to Hamlin A County to
buy marijuana and drive back, that's the same as buying
heroin and driving back. It's like twenty years in prison.
And this is complete disrespect for the law. Now, secondly,

(01:09:26):
you have a drug trafficking bill. Explain that to the
American people.

Speaker 7 (01:09:30):
Well, I'm going to say one more thing about this,
and I agree with everything you just said about that.
And here's what I think the FEDS need to keep
in mind, because this is what we kept in mind here. Look,
we have to have some standard, right, So our breweries,
our distilleries, they have standards. Our dispensaries have standards. So
that's what we are looking at here. It's not just

(01:09:51):
the wild West and you can do whatever you want.
There are standards that you follow, and if you don't
follow the standards and the rules, then you could lose
your license, which means you can be shut down.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
So that's that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Yeah, we'll see what happens with that. Now, what about
the Drug Trafficking.

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
Bill, Well, the Drug Trafficking Bill we passed last night
House till eighty eight, which we passed through the House
last year, also went to the Senate. Ran out of
time over there. But basically, what it does, and this
was an idea that I had after I came back
from the Southern border with our dear friend, Sheriff Jones,
and so basically, it ramps up all the penalties on

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these drug traffickers, specifically with spentanyl and meth and stamine.
So we raised all the penalties and we put specifications
in there that if you knowingly kill, so you knowingly
sell someone a drug that has spentanyl in it and
they die, you have five additional years that you're going
to serve the five year speck. And again we ramped

(01:10:48):
it up with the penalties. I'm sick and tired of them.
I'm sick and tired of the death. I'm sick and
tired of our law enforcement again going out there doing
a great job arresting these drug traffickers and they're literally out,
you know, because yeah, penalty is ours strong enough, so
they're going to be now all right.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
And that's as the governor has everyone agreed to sign.
That is that the law currently or said to be determined.

Speaker 7 (01:11:10):
No, the Senate has to take it up after we
get back in that from holiday Thanksgiving, and that they're
going to take it up and then we'll see what
the Senate does with it. And I'm sure the governor
will sign it because you know he's so he's pro
law enforcement, pro public safety.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Yes, all right, sendy abras back to work. I'm glad
you're reporting back to the American people. And politically, I've
heard rumors you may run for US Congress. There's a
new district. Any any truth to the rumors you might
try to try to go to the Congress.

Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
I love the rumors.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
Everybody likes to.

Speaker 7 (01:11:42):
What I think is funny about this, Willie is when
they they say, oh, yeah, we heard you run for Congress,
and I laughed. I'm like, am I wow, I didn't
even know that. So yeah, No, I'm going to focus
on the job I'm doing right now as a State
rep for the west time west side western portion of
Hamilton County District twenty I'm going to focus on my

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job right now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Could you beat Greg Landsman if you had to? Well?

Speaker 7 (01:12:08):
Listen, I look at my results from last time, and
my team worked very hard back in the primary and
the general we won by twenty and eighteen points. So
you're knocking out work team, Abrams, I can.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Tell you that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Sidney Abrams, good luck to you and thanks for reporting
back to the American people. Sidney Abrams, thank.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
You very much.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
Have a good day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
God bless you. Let's continue with more there. It is
till one thirty this morning, and now things are as
clear as mud on news Radio seven hundred wl ME.

Speaker 9 (01:12:36):
Is it hard sometimes you feel like with with who
you are and like that you're restricted to not like
you're it's hard for you to do these things because of,
you know, the repercussions that may come with doing you know,
kind of loosey goosey kind of podcasts.

Speaker 3 (01:12:51):
Yes, and no, you know I'm gonna walk out of here.
I'm going we have Joe's best interest in mine.

Speaker 10 (01:12:56):
I'm pretty good at understanding what I'm want to say
and verbalizing it the way that i want to, so
I'm not so much worried about that.

Speaker 6 (01:13:05):
It's just I'm not.

Speaker 10 (01:13:08):
I'm not really a big fan of the whole. I
love playing football, but I don't like everything that comes
with it a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
So you don't you don't like Do you like the attention?

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:13:18):
I hate it?

Speaker 9 (01:13:19):
Hate it meaning what you don't like to like? Do
you get anxiety from it? Do you get like?

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:13:23):
I get I get anxiety and like going out and
have him take pictures with all these people.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
And I love it.

Speaker 10 (01:13:29):
I love the fans, and I'm you know, very appreciative
of everybody. But you know, it's a lot sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Hello, I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
What what the hell was that?

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Who's the podcaster with Joe Burrow?

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Who is that? Hello? Who is that? I have no idea?
Se won't you get him on your podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
On your do you have a podcast?

Speaker 3 (01:13:56):
No, I'm all I need let me ask you a question.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
What Joe Burrow, according to Tom Brenneman, is gonna play
on Sunday against against the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Is that a good move?

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
I mean the segment says no, unless they win the
next seven games in a row, is that possible?

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Does Joe Burrow play nose guard?

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
No? No?

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Yeah, I can't play linebacker? He did play linebacker in
high school, so maybe, but I don't know. I I
guess everything was thrown off because the initial reports when
he when the toe was injured was this is very,
very serious. It's complicated, it's complex, And now all of
a sudden, he's back, like way ahead of schedule. Now
if he's I guess if he feels perfectly fine, he's strong,

(01:14:41):
he's in shape. He seems at least, so it seems
at least a weaker.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
I'm supposed to play to the middle of December, right second?
Wasn't that the original thought?

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
Thanksgiving? Everybody thought thanks Giving Day?

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
What happens? I hate to say this. We got the toe,
the caf, the knee, got the wrist, got the appendix,
What happened?

Speaker 3 (01:15:00):
Shoulder?

Speaker 5 (01:15:01):
Head?

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Shoulder?

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
What happens if there's another injury to Joe Burke? Can
I say that or not?

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Okay? As I always say, injuries breed other injuries, and
if you're not, you got something that's ailing you, especially
in your lower half. That usually leads to something else,
which leads to something else. Now, hopefully he's a hundred
percent fine and if he should play, he'll be good
to go. But it makes you nervous, makes me nervous. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
According to according to seg Man, Flaco didn't throw any passes.
Jake's throwing today. He's throwing today, Yes, maybe he's throwing.
Is Burrow throwing today?

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
Yes? What about Flacco? He's throwing today? What about Jake
the snake, He's standing there, not throwing any passes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
What about Clifford the big red dog?

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
That's what they need? I don't know. I guess he's
just gotta standing a round.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Who's starting, seg You should know? I say it's Burrow Rock.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
What do you say? They need a win? Stir it up,
let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
You're gonna have Steve Speck on sometime this afternoon. He's
coming on at four, right after class. What does he
say about Burrow?

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
I he didn't ask him about. He got another you
got a little game he's kind of concerned with. He's
taking up all his time print twenty three to nothing halftime,
and and and they won the game. They won the game. Crazy.
I remember seeing it score. So I was at Rupp
Arena last Friday watching the basketball game I got the

(01:16:24):
first time I got. I got to go to rupt
because we were there. Called the football game. But there
I was watching the sant Xmuller game on my phone
getting updates on the Elder Princeton game. I saw it
score and I was like, wow, I can't be right.
That's a miss print. Miss print, can't be right. Twenty
three nothing and then they won. They won. Impossible. Did
Princeton trash the locker room at Elbert? They they did not?

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
Did not.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Sure. Yes, well, let me ask you this to taft
thrash the locker room at inn't in Hill. Whatever what
the reports are is, to some degree they did. There
was some prior damage, but there there's also some damage
they happened after that then.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Put up the drywall. They added some more damage. I'm
not saying that there were two or three players. According
to uh the superintendent of Schools and CPS. She said,
two or three out of maybe forty. Oh you know
there's always two or three. You were probably one of
those more forties on our team right deer Park. We
have twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
That's all we need. Twenty two good players. Twenty two
good ones. Do all those kids live in the district?
I can't say give me some sports, will he? The
stooge reporters of Proud Service. Don't tell me that. What
about where they come from? Enrollment open it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Don't talk to me about opening will he the studge
reporters of Proud Service over your local Thamestar Heating get
air conditioning dealers. Thamestar quality you could feel in Cincinnati
called Stacey Heating Get Air Solutions five one, three, three
six seven h E. A team brought two fifty thousand

(01:18:02):
illegal truck drivers are operating rigs and they can't read it,
the English all over the country because the criminal records. Yeah,
and it's like, well, here's the story out of Pennsylvania.
They're finding Pennsylvania one hundred million dollars until you clean
up the CDLs. California is the worst. They have companies
to hire illegals pocket lots of money as the owners

(01:18:24):
work them to death.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
They violate all the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
They're causing accidents and they can't read What would the
truck and Bozo say, he'd.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Be going crazy. Shouldn't everybody be for that? Not Democrats?
They're against that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
Why they want illegals who can't read English to drive
eighty thousand pound merchants of death called trucks? What would
Boso say he'd go crazy illegals, And you have Democrats
saying I think I got to work somewhere. How about
working use Becca stand instead of Pennsylvania?

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
And companies that give the freight to these companies, they
better check it out. They have liability if you hand
out your freight.

Speaker 3 (01:19:01):
I think they would not want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
I would think Corporate America says, are they doing it?

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
Probably the dough Ray and the me somehow being goes
money is invol money, money, money, and my hate money.
I hate money. I don't want to work for money.
High school football?

Speaker 5 (01:19:17):
Will you?

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Mike Dyer of Channel nine reports approximately sixteen thousand, four
hundred plus tickets have been sold so far for tomorrow
night's big game at pay Horse Stadium, Panthers. What about
the girls wrestling team and Mason that's angry about? Have
you heard this story? No, the girls wrestling team, I

(01:19:39):
didn't think there was such a thing. Although we hid
in the girls state champion wrestlers from Kentucky, I might recall,
I think so.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
In the Harrison girls wrestling Uh, you don't want me
to ask the question, do you? You didn't even ask
it yet, what's the question.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
The Mason Girls High School wrestling team is in charge
of fundraising for this game.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
So they went out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
The coach went out and the girls and they have
concessionaires putting in four thousand dollars for the product. They
got hot dogs, they got buns, they got fretzees, they
got pup, they got everything.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Now the left holding the bag with.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
Four thousand wieners, and the girls wrestling coach is saying,
where's your where's your where's your money?

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
Now? You know what, have a picnic out there? Brook.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
You have disrupted Mason girls wrestling. Would you care to
apologize for that?

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
No, there's gonna be a place they can donate that stuff.
The state's gonna for the fridge, the step.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
The fridge, you know what, the cold I don't know.
It's okay, isn't it. I think that I'm just saying,
don't you feel bad about this?

Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:20:44):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? What about?

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Steve Speck asked him about that, as him about the
hot and eld are gonna pay Mason, gonna the girls
wrestling team.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
It's just getting off the ground. This was the big
event and you took it away from this geting off
the ground. Look at you in Belasen. I'm just saying
that saw. It'll be okay, okay, and it's gonna be fine.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
I'm told there's a pants sale at Elder half off.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Is that true or not? Have you heard about this one?
I'm not stepping to that one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Please continue, Willie. Let's see what else? College basketball?

Speaker 5 (01:21:20):
Tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
You got MKU in Central Michigan at six thirty. Yet
speak about this in fifteen thirty. Barrick Hats and Cardinals
battle it out tomorrow night downtown West Viler Shoe Live
for the Ridge of Montgomery in tonight at eight o five.
After you, guys, will you be there tomorrow night for
a Saint x An Elder No, I have a game
at Alabama on Saturday. Loose tomorrow roll tied. I'll be

(01:21:43):
watching the game and monitoring all things simultaneously. I'll be
watching the Anderson Trotwood game, all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
Well, I'm not getting enough credit for this, would you agree?
Give me some more sports? Also, Willie?

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
At college football Dabo Sweeney, Oh oh, say Harly talking
with Arkansas a lot their head football coaching John.

Speaker 3 (01:22:05):
You don't want me, I'll go somewhere else. See who
was it? Ross Dellinger said it was gonna be Ryan Silverfield,
who I agree with. I think he's a great coach.
Memphisis coach. Where's he going?

Speaker 4 (01:22:15):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
I thought he was going to Arkansas, but it was
one of those deals where like, okay, they can't say it.
What about now? Maybe not?

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
Maybe Freeman's gonna go to LSU? Is that possible?

Speaker 9 (01:22:26):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
Looking Brian, he left Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (01:22:28):
Oh oh my god, they would they would never what
would a let him leave?

Speaker 4 (01:22:32):
Never?

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
What' he doing? I don't know the ls he's gonna get?
Who do you think?

Speaker 9 (01:22:37):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
I think?

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
What Lane Kiffin? That that they sent a plane going everywhere?

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
Of course he is.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
He's not going to go anywhere, I don't think. But
he's gonna leverage it for some more. Dough Ray and me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
He's only making eight million, he's gonna get ten to
twelve million easily. And Mississippi's not as good as school
for football as LSU or Florida. However, he's happy there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
But it's a I've been to a game there. That
place is great, great campus, it's you know, it's there's
no bs and you know, city crap all around it.
You seek what you have? Right, what do you want
in you can? And then old miss he doesn't you know,
he doesn't have to win ten games every single yearl
you do.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Florida absolutely, Notre Dame absolutely in Mississippi the home of
the race.

Speaker 3 (01:23:20):
Getting great recruits and all that regional recruiting stuff and
isn't quite as important because it just matters that they
want another number. As long as you have as long
as you have a you know, you have a situation
where you have the nil mone you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Can recruit anywhere. Rock Weiss in life, which you have.
You've told me that once or twice. Don't seek what
you have seg you know what I'm saying. Do you
have what you want in your life?

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Let's see.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
Well the MLS action on Sunday five o'clock. Here we
go FC Cincinnati and Messi goes up against Miami in
the Eastern Conference Final. I told Mike McConnell when we're
both going to GN in Chicago, I said, Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
I have what I seek. So he didn't want to go.
I didn't want to go. Not before you leverage that
to get more money here, say give me some more,
Say give me some more. Also, well, let's see. Good
luck to Zeger.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
Will he's twenty second twenty second rates as Zeger Musketeers.
They are taking on twelve three D until management. Did
you know what will it take to keep you and
I get the number? I said that and he said okay.
I said, Mike, guess what I'm standing on principal. I'm
staying right here in my hometown.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Yeah, makes sense, right, it's standing on the Benjamins principal
with an al at the end, not L E A L. Right,
please continue, will you?

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
Xavier and Colorado getting ready to go at it in
the second round of the NCAA College Soccer Tournament.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
I want to take a higher road. You wouldn't let
me go ahead? Say that's it?

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
What about MESSI give me Messy, Talk to me about MESSI.
He's coming here, right, yeah, coming Sunday. It's a big game.
Is it a match or a pitch or what was
the pitch? Eastern Conference Final one game is at it,
winner go home.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
We're in the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
So when we get done, when we sit here on Monday,
here we go, oh boy number one. We want Bengals
to win, Yes, we want f C to win.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
We want the bear Cat. The bear Cats to win,
and we want l arms to win. We want what
happened to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
My signed from Elder of my hundred anniversary? He tore
off the walls?

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Why do you put it? He walks on it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
In fact, he wiped his feet on the elder side.
They gave that to me when I was there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Where is it? Why did you take it off the wall?
Not do such things? Sloan did it Sloan and wiped
his feet on it? Something else with it? And Julie
LEAs came in.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
That dog, That dog wiped his ass right on the
elder sign, and I said, that is disgusting.

Speaker 3 (01:25:44):
Disgusting anyway, what do you go with the big shore?
I don't know. No, we got we got a Patriots
a beat writer coming out of gate at three o'clock
talking about the big Patriots v. Bengals game. Got a
fitness guy PJ. Street at four o'clock, got Steve Speck
at four thirty five. Will leave it done with class
by then?

Speaker 4 (01:26:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
I think he's gonna take a little break up. What
about elder pants half off this weekend only? And also
don't forget Indian Hills in it. Anderson in it and
Middletown's in it. Did tamp destroyed the locker room? Yes
or no go raptors of Anderson raptors and Trotwood Madison
hardly ever loses to anybody from Cincinnati, though.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
It all stops on Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
You want to make me a bet, I'll take Trotwood
Madison hot, but Sunday and I'm taking don't forget. I
got elder that you wipe your feet on their flag,
and you got saying next no points, that many money
giving you one point?

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
No, no, straight up, all right, straight up, all right.
And we got Jason hoffin at five o'clock with all
the NFL on Monday. I know a lot about Joe Burrow.
Will he survived?

Speaker 5 (01:26:51):
What it?

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Don't say it, don't say it, can't say it, I
can't say say give me out of the Stude's report.
We wish him good health. If he can play nose
gar nose tackle and linebacker would make a difference. Well
you in honor of a cloudy and foggy day here
in the Tri State, on this on this Thursday, it's awful.
We leave you with the immortal words of the stud.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
When I say something I mean it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Dick Cheney is wine dined in pocket line and death
when in life the Democrats could not say worse things
about him and he refused to let Trump and Vance
come to his funeral. Now he's wine dining in pocket line.
I couldn't care less about that guy politically. I hope
he's in heaven above. But yeah, it was a terrible
vice president awful and Bush forty three was awful.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
Can I say that? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
It's like, oh, will you be here on Monday? I will.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
We're going to have the result, pick up the pieces.
Write him down segment, Write him Down. I got you
on seven hundred WLW