11-25-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie talks with a local resident about another shooting outside a local nightclub. Also Louie Gohmert breaks down the state of lawfare in today's politics. Finally Commissioner Denise Driehaus breaks down the success of Friday's high school playoff game at Paycor Stadium.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
All right, now, Billy Cunningham, the Great America, Welcome to
father a rainy Tuesday afternoon at the Tri State, getting
ready for Thanksgiving and so much more. But until then,
of course, what happened at the Privy the Privy Bar
continues to percolate throughout the Tri State. That is an
Elm Street on the more or less the north end
of Elm Street, OTR. And it was a lead story
last night on All the News, which is seven people

(00:28):
have been shot, seven this month so far, a few
days remain at the Privy Bar. And Scott Sloan had
on Michael, a developer from OTR, about three weeks ago.
I had Michael on about two weeks ago. He's back
again because he lives Breeze and invest in OTR. He's
a big time developer with apartments and condos, et cetera.

(00:49):
And Michael, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And
first of all, describe what happened the other night when
three more people got shot outside the Privy Bar, which
is across the tree from your home and from your businesses.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Tell the American people what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, So I've been coordinating with one of the detectives.
We have video of everything. It appears that around one
in the morning, three black mails lead Privy. They walk
north one block to their black Dodge Charger that has
parked directly across the street from kind of where I live,

(01:24):
and they drive one block north on Elm Street. They
do a U turn of mcmickon, come back the wrong
way down Elm Street, speeding, and then they do a
drive by shooting pretty much directly in front of Privy, and.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
They hit three people. And I guess the three. And
I've been on Elm Street many times. It goes from
it goes north on Elm Street. In other words, you
go one direction on and so this car had the
wherewithal to stop, turn around and come back the wrong
way to do a drive by in front of the
Privy bar.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I mean, it's normal people drive northbound, but people that
are doing drive by shootings outside Privy they drive southbound. Yeah,
I mean, it's this is so so far gone at
this point, Bill, I've been on I've been on every
major news channel in the last twenty four hours. I'm
actually just leaving a meeting right now. Our whole entire
neighborhood is meeting we just met with. I mean, besides

(02:21):
the I guess the so it's all the highest UPCPD
officers we just met with actually had to leave the
meeting early to come to this call.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I just have so many questions for them. You know. Actually,
just past Friday, I met with you know, I don't
want to name them individually out of respect for them
and give them opportunity to do their job. But one
of the highest leading city officials that assured us that
a plan was in place to close Privy. But I

(02:53):
told him, you know, I feel like Notre damis. I
told him in the meeting. I told him in the meeting,
you know, Friday morning, I said, hey, like, somebody's going
to die. Even one day is too much. And Saturday night,
three more people got shot twenty four hours later. It
is so far gone at this point that there is
really no solution with Privy. This isn't Hey they have

(03:14):
to hire private detail, and hey, we have to train
staff not to overserve people. It's there's one solution, and
it's just the city has to close Privy.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Well.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
The idea of a civil nuisance is available, which is
the court system can determine to be a civil nuisance
and shut it down by court order, or the city
can start the process of getting rid of the liquor license.
Are those the two areas that you're investigating.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah, so that's the city official told us that there's
multiple avenues for them to shut this location down, and
the revocation of their liquor license was one of them
that they discussed. You know, for me, I guess my
question is is how is Privy not already labeled a
public news you know what I'm saying, like, what what
do they have to do? You know, after seven people

(04:06):
shot in twenty one days, is that not enough? You know,
we're not talking people loitering outside. We're talking this is
a full blown safety issue for our community. Yeah, it's
it's it's this is the most insane thing I've been
a part of since I've been over the Rhine. It's
so far out of control. And but yeah, I mean

(04:27):
you should see this. I actually I think I sent
it to you.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I have any once, but I'm looking at it.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
It's insane. Like it's one thing to hear the story,
but it's another thing to see these guys walk to
their car, drive north down to do a U turn,
drive the wrong way down the street, you know, and
then you know, just do a drive by. So we're
we're all in fear, honestly. I mean, I'm doing a
lot of these interviews anonymously or as anonymously as I can.

(04:52):
I want to continue to apply pressure on the city.
But I'll be honest. I I I'm fearful of the owner.
You know, I can't share too many details, but you know,
the meeting with the city official and made a he
was insinuating that the owner of Privy is under investigation

(05:12):
for other crime as well, some of which is violent crime.
And I just I'm just confused why we are letting
people like this, you know, own and operate liquor license
businesses in our city. You know, a liquor license should
be a privilege, right it is.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
And I watched an interview briefly, it might have been
Channel nine. A reporter had the owner of Privy in
the doorway a brief conversation. I think he said, look,
I'm not responsible for this. This didn't happen inside Privy
because we have guards out in front. We frisk people
that come in. Our guards have weapons on them. Our

(05:50):
guards have kevlar our guards look like ninja turtles standing
out in front. We make sure it doesn't happen. He said,
what happens outside is not my business. So how would
you respond to that's the.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Whole that's the whole problem. So he thinks that it
he guards twenty square square feet in front of his bar,
So that's his only responsibility, and that is insane. Okay,
if you're going to attract if your if your bar
is a beacon of light for thugs all over the city. Okay,
these these thugs don't teleport to your front door, right,
they park all over our block. And then when we

(06:23):
got the call, I will send you. Uh what my
house outside my house looks like on Thursday night. Thursday night,
I called the police three times. There was a full
blown block party outside my house. Everybody's drinking, smoking, they're twerking,
making tiktoks.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's insane. But yeah, that's that's the whole point exactly.
He thinks that if he be yeah, he thinks to
be guards this front door, that's that's his only responsibility.
But that is that's not the case. If you're going
to attract them to the neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Go ahead, look, let's stay on the TikTok party. So
this happens in many urban areas. I look at Chicago
and social there were hundreds of kids showing up at
the Loop. I think eight were shot, one was killed.
Police officers were wounded, stores were looted in downtown Chicago
using social media and so so if there's a group

(07:14):
of young folks who want to get together and truque
and smoke and use drugs and get drunk on social media,
say let's meet up in front of the Privy, We'll
shut down Elm Street for a while and let's get
it on.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, I mean it's really what's happening is that before
they come down to Privy, so I say they're going
to get there at one thirty, which is this is
a late crowd. Okay, I've noticed that they come very late.
So what they'll do is they all have to kuie
a bottles and they all out their blunts rolled and
they come down and before they go into Privy for
the next twenty to thirty minutes, they just open their

(07:47):
car doors, turn on their stereos Blair music, and then
they just party on the sidewalk, then they go into Privy,
and then after they leave Privy, they party on the
sidewalk again with their bottles and their blunts that are
in their car. I'll send you I'll send you foot
you can put this out, yeah, every night and then yeah,

(08:10):
that loitering is what is escalating, you know. And I'll
send you footage from this past Thursday, so you can
kind of show the public what it looks like Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
and Sunday on the sidewalk within blocks of Privy. But
it's it's it's completely completely insane, completely out of control,
and it's completely unsafe for anyone to live. My bedroom

(08:34):
is ten feet from this and and uh, you know,
drive by Like if one of my neighbors, one of
my innocent neighbors, gets killed, that's going to be devastatingly
embarrassed for the city of Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
But the police have got to know.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
When you're patrol ot, you've got to know exactly what's
going on.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Why don't they stop it?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's the whole point, you know. So I'm looking at
some of these notes I have from this meeting we
just had with the police and My question is is, hey,
why is this place not already declared a nuisance?

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Why why are we even having this conversation at this point?
And then b you know, I don't know. It's it's like, well,
you got to see they've got a h they've got
a press release or not a press release, Privy put
out a on the twenty ninth, they have a blackout party.
Oh yeah, I mean it's if they are able now,

(09:30):
they're able to operate.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Okay, Well, now we're going to have a party the
twenty ninth. Yeah, we're gonna what was that Saturday? We're
gonna Now we're gonna let the hair. Now we're gonna
party right down the twenty ninth. It's a blackout.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, I'll send you. I'll send you this flyer as well.
I don't I don't know if anybody from the city
of Cincinnati is listening. The person that I met with
this past Friday, this is an elected official that is
extremely high in the city of Cincinnati. I will bet
them one thousand dollars that if they let them have
this blackout party on the twenty ninth, I will bet

(10:04):
them a thousand dollars if someone gets shot I'll shake
their hand and I'll bet them. It's like, I'm not know.
Tradamis like, we know it's going to happen, and I
just it's for the life of me. With intelligent people
operating the city, with police forces and judges and attorneys
that work for the city, how is this still even

(10:28):
an option.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Well, let's talk for a second about the attitude of individuals,
the freedom with which they operate. That in this climate
where the city allegedly is really cracking down on this stuff,
that they feel they're entitled to come out of the
Privy Bar smoked up and drunk. I would imagine something
happened inside the Privy They wanted to send a message.

(10:50):
God knows what that is. They walk to their car,
go up Elm Street the right way, turn around. They're
so privileged they can drive the wrong way on Elm
Street and let go a couple dozen shots and shoot
the Privy outside. They feel entitled, and no one's been
arrested yet for this. Three people are wounded. They made
their way to University Hospital. Fortunately none of them are dead.

(11:13):
They must have intended something happened at the Privy Bar inside,
maybe with the ninja warriors out in front. They wanted
to send a message who we are, they feel and
on video they feel as if I can do what
I want to do because nothing's gonna happen to me.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
And that attitude is disgusting. Is that what's going on.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Nothing's gonna Nobody can attack me, no one can arrest me.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I'm a warrior. I'm a warrior. Nobody can is gonna
I'll do what I want to do.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Is that the.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Attitude, Yeah, Privy caters to the most dangerous crowd in
the city. Okay, Like when you're in over there Iron
and you walk past a homeless person, that person is
not who I fear right the privy they are. They're young,
they're urban, they have money to buy weapons. They they're

(12:02):
short tempered. Like Privy is the perfect storm for violence,
and that is what we're seeing here. But yeah, the
privilege to think if you just share it words, you
go out to your car, do a U turn, drive
the wrong way down the street, and do a drive
by shooting. I mean, that's full blown insane behavior. And
but I mean, I don't know. I woke up after
I saw the news, after I met with the city
official the day before and I just kind of like smiled.

(12:25):
I was just not because I was happy, but I
was just like I literally just told them, I told
them yesterday morning that this was going to happen again,
and and you know the next day there's another mass shooting.
And then like we're still having the conversation as if
like they still need to do more. It sounds like

(12:46):
it sounds like their ownership hired an attorney, Will Willie.
It sounds like they hired a guy in town that
he's a liquor license guy, and they're going to fight
this and and it's it's a total mess.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
If it's a liquor license file, it will take months
for that to be pulled. And then if it's a
civil nuisance, if you have the right judge in common
Police Court, and god knows we don't have too many
right judges yet, they could walk in this afternoon with
a t r O to shut it down, and the
judge this afternoon could shut it down. Now they know
who the judges are in Hamilton County, and they're not

(13:20):
going to shut it down. Not not not that that's
my judges.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
That's my whole question, not to not to butt in,
but My whole question is Cheryl Long was kind of
suggesting that, Uh, somebody in city Council needs to propose
a legislation so that they can have this legislation on
the books to step in and and temporarily close a

(13:46):
location that is a nuisance to the neighborhood. I'm just
in here thinking, how is this not already? How does
this not already exist?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
What is If this isn't a nuisance? What is a nuisance?
What else do they have to do?

Speaker 4 (13:59):
What?

Speaker 2 (13:59):
What's the next thing?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I mean, yeah, I know that they could go into court.
If you had to judge Ruleman, if you had to
judge Needle and you present this on an emergency basis
at tro it would be shut down at three o'clock today,
and that's it. Then you get into the court system,
it may take months. Then you got the preliminary in junction,
then you got the permanent junction. And if you go

(14:22):
through legislation or go through the liquor license if they
started four months ago, yes, but you can't start now.
We get the blackout party happening on Saturday, and you
better have the National Guard called out. What's it like
sleeping in your home at one thirty two o'clock. What's
it like? Do you sleep behind bricks? How do you sleep?

Speaker 6 (14:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I mean it's uncomfortable. I mean, and again, I've been
down here fifteen years, okay, and I've been sleeping in
this bedroom for fifteen years, and this is the most
untape I've ever felt. Right Like, I always was aware
of where I lived, Okay, I'm aware that I live
in a generationally you know, violent or crime. But one neighbor,

(15:03):
one neighbor privy has changed blocks of over the rhine forever,
you know. And that's why this is embarrassing. Like I
homostly feel bad with the city official I met with
the other day. It's embarrassing for them. This one location
continues to embarrass them every single weekend, you know. And
I don't know the legal stuff that has to take

(15:25):
place behind closed doors, but you know, I woke up
and I honestly felt bad for them the following morning because,
like man, again, this location embarrasses them every single weekend.
But the problem for me, and the problem for all
our neighbors, and the problem for everybody that has money
invests in this neighborhood is this one location continues to

(15:47):
fuel the story that over the Rhine is unsafe and
that you know you can't go down there. You can't
buy homes down there, you can't put apartments down there,
and it's one location is you know, jeopardizing millions and
millions of my dollars that I haven't play in the neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
All right, we gotta run, Michael, and uh, I feel
for you. I think something's going to happen at some point,
but there'll be another mass shooting, There'll be mass mayhem.
The three people that did this can't be located. The
police do the best they can, the judges don't do
their job, the city doesn't do its job, civilly, and
away we go, Michael. Let's keep the lines of communication
open and maybe on the twenty ninth, during the blockout,

(16:26):
you might find yourself in vers Sales, Indiana somewhere. Get
the hell out of Dodge if they don't shut it down. Michael,
we got to run, but thank you, thank you for
coming out on this.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Please, yeah, I'll send I'll see you that video of
what it looks like on the sidewalks. And then the
other question is is you don't want to meet me
there on the twenty ninth for the blackout.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
WILLI no, Michael, thank you very much. No, no, I'm
not I'm not coming. No, no, thank you, thank you, No,
I'll anybody, thank you.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
For thinking well. Well.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Cincinnati meets Chicago. Bill Cunningham seven hundred WW by Billy Cunningham,
the Great American, and may you and yours have a
glorious Thanksgiving coming up. But the reality of what's happening
in Cincinnati is now visited upon us, all of us,
by the failure of city officials to maintain law and order.

(17:24):
The first order of government is to protect innocent citizens,
would you agree?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Number one?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Even more important than fixing the potholes or cleaning up
the streets after a bad snow, which city government doesn't
do that anyway. But what's happening with the Privy is
typical of what's happening in many parts of urban America,
not just Cincinnati. Were about five or ten years behind
Chicago or Charlotte, or New York or Los Angeles. But

(17:51):
I'm not so shure we're five to ten years behind.
We might be there right now. And the problem is
the police department has been castraighted. The chief of Police
has been fired and regular law and order is not
being maintained. And whether I can have on Jeff Birding
or John Barrett, or Brittany Ruby or everyone to put on,

(18:13):
they all sing out of the same book, and that
is that this is kind of different and new in Cincinnati.
It's not the way it's been until about four or
five years ago. And it should not be political. Would
you agree that Democrats. I've had Democrats on with me
all the time over the last forty three years, and
the Democrats felt the same about law and order as Republicans,

(18:35):
until this suave of Marxism and progressivism has washed the
shores on top of the Democratic Party that controls politics
in every major American city outside in Miami, Florida. Take Miami,
Florida out of the mix. The top fifteen cities in
America all controlled by left wing radical Democrats who believe
in restorative justice, do not believe in law and order,

(18:57):
do not believe in tough sentencing, does don't believe in
regular sentencing, and do not believe the police should be
fully funded. And Cincinnati has been known now for years
coppers need at least two hundred more, especially younger men
and women that want to grapple and run down streets
and things of the character. Be active, and they're and
they're policing. There's a message sent to CPD that I'm okay,

(19:20):
You're okay. Don't get involved in something, don't chase someone
down an alley, and don't get a pick up a
handful of warrants at the start of a shift and
go find some of these knuckleheads. That doesn't happen anymore.
Get in your car, wait for a nine to one
one call and then respond to it. And do not
be aggressive. Do not go hands on with anybody. God knows.

(19:40):
Don't pull somebody over for speeding or reckless operation something
like that, because you may find out you have to
arrest that person and may not get out of the car.
It's going to be hands on. Don't want to do that.
So we fire the police chief. We fire the police
The police and fire chief are both gone. Two assistant
chiefs is gone. So we pay millions of dollars in settlements,

(20:03):
and then the city continues on as if it's no
problem whatsoever. What happened to Patrick Herringer several months back,
because AE and Mordecai Black is instructive indicative of what
law enforcement is like in Cincinnati. It's hard to get arrested.
And if you are arrested and get in front of
one of the sixty percent of the judges in amNY

(20:25):
County that are liberal progressives who believe in restorative justice,
not much is going to happen to you. Imagine the
mentality of these gang bangers at the Privy who come
out of the Privy. There was something happened inside the
Privy bar of one type or another, some dispute, and
come out, walk down the street, get in your black

(20:48):
Dodge Charter charger, go the correct way on m Street,
which is south and north, and then all of a sudden,
turned back around, go the wrong way in a one
way and spray bullets into at the privy outside the bar,
and then speed off as three people are wounded. Seven
people have been shot in front of this bar and

(21:09):
so far this month. And then wait till Saturday night
rolls around. It's a blackout. I'm not sure what that means,
but it doesn't sound good for OTR. Give you an example.
I don't know if this is the case, but you
know what's been reported in the media. One of the
best restaurants in OTR is peppin Dolores. I've eaten there
many times. I love the pasta bolonaise. But do I

(21:30):
go there at night? Absolutely not. In fact, during the
daytime five six o'clock in the evening, it looks sometimes
like you're an Indian territory. You look around, you see
drug dealing, open air and marijuana use. So you have
to pay someone to watch your car. That doesn't incentivize
someone to leave Kenwood, or leave Covington, or leave Hamilton.

(21:51):
Let's go down to OTR and have dinner, come in,
you get out. I can only imagine how bad it
would be there at except for TQL Stadium FC. What
they've done is marvelous. Now Carl Linders putting in another
half a billion dollars into apartments and an event center
and a hotel, half a billion dollars right on the

(22:13):
edge of complete mayhem.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
And what's happened here?

Speaker 1 (22:17):
The race card is being played by the owners of
Privy of a friend of mine from the Chamber of
Commerce who says the following, He sent me this text
at twelve twenty six pm.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
What about eighteen minutes ago?

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I see the head of the African American Chamber of
Commerce defending Privy in the news. He said, the Chamber
has done events there. The African American Chamber has done
events of the Privy. The owner can't be responsible for
outside bar what happens outside the bar, he said. We
all need to work together as the community to fix
the problem. That sums it up the owners. The three

(22:52):
owners of the Privy are African American. One of them
was interviewed by I think a Channel nine reporter in
the doorway. What do you say to these and he said,
look inside the bar, I have security, they have weapons.
They have kevlar to make sure no one's coming in
with guns. Well, that's wonderful. And then when they leave

(23:13):
on the sidewalk, then all hell breaks loose. That is
the definition of a nuisance. You can't do that. The
bar before that, according to Michael, just had them on,
was a so called gay bar that was peaceful and calmon.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Life is good.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
It turns over to a gang banging, black thug bar
and guess what people are shot. You would think the
African American Chamber of Commerce would say, you know what,
this isn't working.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
We need to make a change.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
This isn't working in the black community because Black Americans
are shot by African Americans much more often than any
other race. The black community is affected by the few
among it which are causing major mayhem. The great majority
of black kids and young folks have nothing to do
with the crime. But the face of crime in Cincinnati
is a black face. Just look at the picture. For

(24:07):
cultural and social reasons, it's going that's the way. It
is also the lack of family formation. But until that changes,
the police have got to be able to do their
jobs and arrest the wrongdoers, and the judges in Hamilton
County must lock them up, especially in juvenile court. You
must lock them up and send a message. If you're

(24:29):
thirteen and fourteen years old using guns, raping people, shooting people,
your life expectancy is going to be somewhat short. And
the African American Chamber of Commerce should be the first
group to say, if you're an African American and you're
conducting business in Cincinnati, it must be done in an illegal,
ethical way in which people are not getting shot. Imagine

(24:52):
you owning a business and in the last three weeks,
seven people have been shot outside your business because they're
patrons to your business. I don't know about you, but
if I have to walk into a facility in which
there are armed guards, they look like ninja warriors with
kevl are out in front frisking me. I'm not going

(25:12):
inside the business. You might get shot, you might be murdered,
you might be killed, you might be beaten.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
But there's an element in our society that considers that
risk part of the game makes him feel better. So
here sits Patrick Herringer operating a business, a gym, with
his lovely wife Sarah, doing nothing wrong, doing everything right,
and Mordecai Black is let go, having spent many many

(25:40):
years in prison. He comes out more of an animal
than he went in. He's got, of course, the ankle monitor,
on which is worthless. He cuts it off quickly. The
police run into him a couple times before he murders
Patrick Herringer and don't arrest him. And he now he
bought He's bought the farm. Maybe this Tom will be

(26:00):
locked up for a long time, but I kind of
doubt it. Same thing in Charlotte, North Carolina. Violent crime
in Charlotte, North Carolina ignotted a political firestorm because the
Trumpster's sending some of the some of the National Guard,
and crime is way down. The mayor there is the
complete Puts, a complete fool, and she doesn't She sees

(26:23):
no evil, speaks no evil.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
And hears no evil. She thinks things are good and.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
It's now the Republicans and Charlotte Charlotte, North Carolina are
African Americans. They're cut in the same way as Chris Smitherman.
They're saying, when are you gonna when are you in
charge of the city, gonna do your damn job and
tell the police to get rid of the few hundred
people committing crime, and the Putts, the mayor there, refuses

(26:51):
to do it. She's been there for like fifteen or
twenty years, and she's kind of like a Lemon Kearney
type that cuts ribis, does that kind of stuff. She says, Oh,
overall crime is down eight percent from January through September,
down eight percent, eight percent from an all time high.
I don't care if it's eight percent or eighty percent
or whatever. Police have got to do their job and

(27:11):
in Cincinnati were at the precipice right now, and it's
going to get worse, not better. I know Michael didn't
want to use his last name, but everyone in OTR
knows who he is. He lives there, he sees it,
He sent me videos. He showed it to the mayor
and city council and others. The police, a Chief Adam

(27:32):
Henny knows what's happening. They're saying, Okay, we're going to
send it round law enforcement. You can't tell me that
when these most recent shootings took place last weekend, that
the police did not know what was going on. And
they're in OTR and they know exactly what's going on. However,

(27:52):
they're kind of told by their civil authorities to leave
it alone, don't police it. Would you like to live
on Elm Street? Would you like to? I have the
video here of a individuals for the street Party shutting
down Elm Street with their road marijuana, the blunts and
tequila bottles and dancing in boombox and women exposing themselves.

(28:16):
Would you like that in your community on a regular basis,
shutting down streets. I don't think so, and so I
will continue to shed light on this, even though it
appears that the voters of Cincinnati don't give a damn
if they gave a damn. Maybe they would have changed
council from the goofs they have on council now to

(28:37):
someone like a Liz Kidding or I don't know. Chris
Smitherman would be a good idea, right like heita call somebody.
It would say, wait a minute, we got a problem
in River City. We don't anticipate a change unless we
cause change to occur. The same goofs, the same eight
are elected and the mayor instead of eighty three percent

(28:59):
of the vote eight percent of the vote. It's like,
why should the rest of his care if you don't
care and don't want to change. And the answer is
I can't answer that question because I see the same
thing in Chicago with their goofy mayor Brandon Johnson, who
had hundreds of youths get together downtown Chicago with the

(29:21):
Loop in front of Chicago Theater. Eight people shot, police
are injured, stores are looted, and Brandon Johnson said, well,
it's an isolated incident when a few days ago you
had the mentally ill person the Chicago train attack suspect
who had seventy one arrest seventy one. His name is

(29:41):
Lawrence Reid. He goes and gets a bottle of gasoline,
pours it over the head of a woman riding on
the L train and lights her on fire. And at
this point the mayor said, well, that's an isolated incident.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
We got to do better. Well.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
In nineteen seventy, for every one hundred citizens Cincinnati, Hamilton County,
for example, had three hundred beds for the criminally mentally ill.
We now have twelve per one hundred thirty six beds
in the city of Cincinnati for the mentally ill who
commit crime. The great majority of mentally ill did not

(30:22):
commit crime, but when they do commit crime, it is horrific, horrific,
much as the woman in Charlotte who was stabbed to
death as people recorded it on their cell phones and
she bled out on train and the Charlotte mayor in
that case said, you know what her name is, A
vi Lyles said, well, that's an isolated incident.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
We have to do better. Well, she's dead.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
And this poor woman in Chicago at gasoline pulled over,
poured over her hair and shoulders and face, is fighting
for a life, burns over ninety percent of her body.
And the person that did it is a career criminal
who's forty years old, has said seventy two opportunit unities,
and the idiotic judge in that case said that he

(31:04):
deserved to be released on an ankle monitor, which he
cut off. Does that remind you of Mordecai Black at all?
I would hope it would to me. It is truly
an unbelievable, incredible circumstance. It is truly unbelievable what is
happening in Cincinnati, and we're a few years behind. I

(31:25):
thought we were a few years behind. I'm not so
sure we are anymore. After my last guest came on,
what do you think about what he said? That is outrageous,
And the city officials know what's going on and they
fail to act to correct it. That's the sad part.
They know what's going on, and they fail to act
to correct it, which is really incredible, disgusting and simply

(31:46):
wrong with what's occurring. Somehow it must change, and it
must change immediately. But as you and I know at
this point, as you and I know at this point,
guess what. At this point, the city officials see nothing wrong.
It's unbelievable. Wait for the blackout on Saturday nights. Is

(32:07):
the how many more people are shot and nothing gets
their attention. I'm okay, You're okay. And after after have pierrival.
The next mayor is going to be lemon Kearney, and
after that will be I don't know, pick a name,
Evan Nolan. Somebody is going to be the next mayor
who believe in restorative justice and they can't treat individuals
based upon their behavior, must treat based upon race and

(32:28):
race Trump's behavior. Let's continue with more. Coming up later
will be Congressman Lewis Gombert. But the weaponization of government
against against the Republicans, and also later on we scheduled
Denise Treehouse. Can you smell when I'm cooking? How much
trouble are we in when city officials refuse to recognize

(32:48):
and they believe they've been incentivized by the voters for
the same policies. Bill cunning and The Great American Live
with Zuture, Home of the Bengals, News Radio seven hundred WLW,
Billy Cunningham, The Great American. Of course, Arctic frost is

(33:09):
something in the conservative media is well known about what happened.
It's so much worse than Watergate. You can't even imagine
because the mainstream media won't cover it because it is
so bad for the Democrats and so bad for Joe
Biden and also indirectly Barack Hussein Obama and also Harris.
It is so bad that it is not being publicized

(33:29):
because what was attempted here was to actually destroy your
opposition political party during a criminal investigation, then indicting large
numbers of Republicans, which is actually what happened. And Louis
Gohmert a great American that was in Congress about twenty years.
He's a Senior Fellow for Political Statesmanship with the David

(33:49):
Horowitz Freedom Foundation. He's now retired, living off of fat
at calf I think somewhere in Texas. And Congressman Louis Gohmert,
Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. First of all, Iris,
can you tell the American people who have no idea
what we're talking about? What is Arctic frost?

Speaker 6 (34:05):
Well, that was an effort by well, actually every endeavored
by the Department of Justice. That's that's a project of
the Department of Justice. Uh, they'll put a name on it,
and you can tell by the name that they put
on that project just how serious it is. That to

(34:31):
their minds. So you know, if it's Hillary Clinton, that's
just oh hum, we'll just give it a little bitty name,
you know, Midyear Review is. But if it's if it's
we're going to take down an entire uh, one of
the two big political parties in the country, leaving only

(34:54):
the Democratic Party. That's arctic frost. We're going to ease
and destroy an entire political party. That's Arctic frost. That's
what it was. And forget the Constitution, Forget the Fourth Amendment,
forget Article one of the Constitution, and the Congressional Privilege,

(35:18):
the separation of powers, all of these things. They re
threaded the Constitution bill in their effort to go after people.
There was no probable cause, there was no describing anything
with particularity as required in the Fourth Amendment. They were

(35:38):
going on a fishing expedition after hundreds and hundreds of Republicans,
looking for anything that they might turn into calling it
a crime so that they could take down an entire
Republican party. And just like Stalin had said, you know,

(35:59):
show me the man, and basically he was saying, and
I will create the crime to charge him with. And
that's what we were facing here. We just didn't know
how actually just how widespread this thing was. We knew
they were going after Cromp corruptly, but we didn't know

(36:21):
how widespread it was going after the rest of us. Incredible.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Well, to put a finer point on this, the it
was a shock to the system in twenty sixteen when
Donald Trump actually won. In fact, I think it was
a shock to him that he won. And so the
deep state, whether it's the FBI, the CIA, and Department
of Justice holdover said we can't let this guy enact
his policies that we voted for. That now, that's a

(36:50):
threat to democracy right there. But Arctic Frost spied on
members of the Congress, and to put a fire you
say in your column, many were shocked to find out
that Jack Smith, also known as Jack Frost Smith, had
subpoened the cell phone records of Republican senators during the
Arctic Frost investigation, including my friend, Congressman Jim Jordan. We've

(37:12):
learned that the Biden administration appointed special counsel, who was
Jack Frost Smith, requested phone records, including yours, for three
months between November of twenty twenty and January of twenty
twenty one, and this was the executive branch of government
snooping into the private lives of Congressman on senators only Republicans.

(37:34):
I'm ad d for a fishing expedition, and this has
not caused any anngst by the mainstream media. Describe that
to the American people.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
Well, not only that, it should have caused a great
deal of ankst with any self respecting Democrat, especially in
the Judiciary Committee of the House and Senate, but they
are so are gone, they're so political at this point.
It didn't bother them. But my first term, even Adam Schiff,

(38:08):
Democrats on the Judiciary Committee in the House, they were
concerned about privacy rights and Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights.
But boy, after they got the majority in one that
in six things turned around. And then when they got
won the White House in two thousand and eight, they

(38:30):
didn't care about Republicans' rights and bill. It's just gotten
worse and worse and worse, to the point that now
it didn't bother them at all. It didn't bother the media.
You know, it didn't bother the media when Obama was
president and they seize records of the ap they see

(38:50):
other records of media without probable cause. But now you're
talking about hundreds Ofublicans that were seized. And I saw
Jim our friends of Jordan, and we served together. He
came in the term after I did, and he had

(39:13):
had the Judiciary Committee do a search about the records
they seized of his and he found that the Judge
both Burg had issued an indio, a nondisclosure order that
they couldn't tell anybody. Well, Senator Grassley had his staff

(39:35):
his investigators do a widespread search on all the rest
of us and it turns out they did a non
disclosure order on all of us. Bill that's an order
from a federal judge saying, I have reason to believe
that if Gomert and all these others were to know

(39:58):
that their phone records, all this other data were being
gathered up, that they would flee the country, or they
would pull a Hillard Clinton, and they would they would
destroy all their evidence. So you cannot disclose to them
the fact that you're gathering up all this evidence. So

(40:21):
and I know, you know sometimes if you say, well,
there is a congressional privilege that conservatives, if they don't
understand the Constitution, they will say oh, Congress thinks above
the law. No, no, no, there is a congressional privilege.
There is a separation of powers, and you've got to

(40:41):
understand that that. And I heard Jonathan Turley talking about
it yesterday. There is this oversight and the checks and
balances the Judiciary Committee in the House and the Senate.
We have oversight over the DOJ, over the FBI. And

(41:06):
back at the time they were seizing these records, I
know Jim and I were both talking publicly, Hey, we've
got FBI whistleblowers, we got DOJ whistleblowers contacting us. Well,
when the FBI agents and DJ they know that they're
seizing our phone records, then it sends a chill through

(41:30):
any whistleblowers in the FBI. Oh my gosh, I can't
contact my congressmen to let them know, or any congressman
to let them know about the crimes being committed in
the FBI DJ because they're seizing their records without them knowing.
And so that means you just eliminated the checks and

(41:54):
balances that the founders set up. That's why there is
a congressional pro is there. That's why there is a
separation of powers and So if you go back historically
when there was and this was no warrant, this was
just a subpena, there was no probable cause that a

(42:16):
crime was committed. And keep in mind I was a judge.
I used to have to review Affidavid to make sure
that there was probable cause that a crime was committed
and this person was involved in probably involved in the crimeman.
If that wasn't there, then I would say, I'm sorry, guys,
you don't have probable cause here.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
You're going to have to go back and try again.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
And Congressman, the important thing here is that there were
no Democrat senators, no Democrat congressmen who were snooped on
by the Department of Justice under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
And in fact, I want to put a sharper point
on what you said that normally, like for example, when
Hillary Clinton took a bleach bit, took literal hammers to

(42:58):
her devices that were runner us a pain, that was
obstruction of justice. There's a memo between Comy and others saying,
no matter what else happens, any charges against Hillary Clinton
herself must be through Main Justice to make sure that
they knew no charges would be filed, and in this
case involving you and only Republicans by Biden and Harris,

(43:18):
there was an affidavit filed with the US magistrate issue
the order that they feared that Jim Jordan and Louis
Gohmert and Senator Grassley allegedly may flee the country or
may destroy the evidence. Therefore, you can't not what were
the odds of you fleeing the country, Congressman Comber, That
was a bunch of craps.

Speaker 6 (43:38):
Zero zero zero, yeah, zero. There was nothing on which
they could base that kind of claim. It was absolutely outrageous.
And so it is a total assault on the Constitution.
And Judge Bosberg needs to be held to account, and
so many of these other judges. And I've done an

(44:01):
article on this, and I know that the historically h
the feeling has been, well, you can only impeach a
judge if they commit treason, bribery, high crime, and misdemeanor,
because that's what executives have been held to. But the
thing is, though, Bill, if you look at Article three,

(44:25):
Section one, UH, it says that the federal judges show
hold their their uses during good behavior. If you think,
if you think about it. You know, the founders were
so brilliant in this document they put together. Doesn't it

(44:45):
make sense that they would want judges held to a
higher standard than you know, the executives that are elected. Okay,
they're going to elect some good.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
But we can't ect judge those behavior.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
Yes, and Boseburg has certainly not behaved in a good way.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Now, I kind of want to I look back and Watergate.
There was an attempt by elements of the Nixon administration
to burglarize the offices of a someone in the Watergate
and Nixon knew nothing about it, and that metastasized as
far as a burglary or breaking and entering. This was

(45:28):
a burglary and a breaking and entering of the Republican
Party office holders. And you conclude your column by saying
this Jack Smith's efforts to prevent a candidate from being elected.
This is US Department of Justice under Biden to destroy
him and his family financially, send a message that no
one will be allowed to stand in the way of
a complete democratic takeover and weaponization of the Department of Justice.

(45:52):
They were so close. If Donald Trump had lost, our
republic would have been lost. It seems that every month
or so more Evans comes out to substantiate the great fear,
and you say, thank you President Trump for not giving up.
And so if they were allowed to continue, they would
have destroyed the Republic by destroying the Republican Party. And
now all we hear from the media is about weaponization.

(46:14):
Donald Trump is weaponizing the federal just the.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
They're saying what they did. They're saying what they.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
Did exactly right.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Explain Louis Gomer, what happens next?

Speaker 6 (46:26):
Here?

Speaker 1 (46:26):
We are what happens next in this investigation because the
media and the Democratic Party does not want this investigation.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
So what happens next.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
Well, it has got to go forward. People have got
to go to jail for crimes. If this, if there
are not people punished for this, then we're still not
out of the woods. And it can be repeated. And
that was one of my big concerns. You know, when
we found out people like Lewis Lerner had certainly Beard

(46:59):
Gee committed to crimes, but nobody, nobody was held accountable
back then. You know, there were people that lied to
Congress back then, and Bayner did not want to prefer
any charges against anybody. And the worst that happened to
anybody for crimes that appeared there were certainly probable calls

(47:21):
for was that Lewis Learner was put on paid leave. Wow,
wasn't that said she had to go take a vacation
for you know, most of the year. But nobody suffered.
And so it just got worse and worse and worse
until we get to this point where they were out

(47:42):
to destroy an entire problem. And look what happened to
the people that we know lied repeatedly. Well, you know
you had some million dollar settlements by the DJ while
Garland with it. Yeah, yeah, nobody, nobody had been really

(48:03):
made to account. But I tell you, as a former judge,
nobody was more upset than me when I saw that
the vice a judge that got this application that was
a lie uh had a lie in application where they
changed the wording to say that wasn't it Carter Page, Yeah,

(48:31):
that that he had not Papadopolis, that was it. He
had not changed from saying that he had been helpful
to the c I to he had not been.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
And that's you know, Louis go, It's just unbelievable. That's
the government. Can you imagine Kamala Harris in office now
and for the next seven years, what this Republic would
want to be done. We're done. We got to run Conrad.
I love having you. We got to do this, Mark,
we got to do this more often.

Speaker 6 (49:02):
I love talking to you, Bill. I love talking to you, Bill.
But what I'm going to say though, that judge had
every right to put that lawyer that swore alive in
jail for six months, and she should have and to
her it was a whole hum and to me that
judge should be held to account. But that's what really

(49:22):
scared me, when the judges don't need to care about
being lied to.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
And all I hear from the media today is about
the weaponization of the Department of Justice against the Democratic War,
which is not happening. But look what they did, the
Republican Party, and so far the mainstream media has ignored me.
It doesn't fit their agenda. Congressman Louis Gohmert retired about
twenty years in Texas. Look, Louis, you're a great American.
Let's do it again. God bless you. I love talking

(49:47):
to you, Bill. Thank you, God bless America. Let's continue
with more. The truth will set us all free. We
almost lost our republic. Bill Cunningham, seven hundreds WLW.

Speaker 7 (49:58):
I wish all Americans a happy thanks give and May
God bless you.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Hello, Bietum Skulls, I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
I wish all Americans are happy Thanksgiving. May God bless you.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Isn't that nice?

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Rush forty three and Dick Cheney say you and I
ought to go to the Privy Bar this Saturday for
the Blackout party, the third anniversary. You I could be
talking in the middle of Elm Street at two o'clock
in the morning.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Wouldn't that be something?

Speaker 1 (50:33):
They kind of getting old these days. Let's go, Let's
go Privy, You and the boys and the girls. Yeah, screaming, hollering, shouting,
got the boom boxes, got the blunts, got the Mogan David,
got the tequila, all that stuff. I've seen it before.
I've seen it in YouTube videos. Oh okay, I watched
those every now and then. I see that's according to
a Michael who that's a regular event. But these are

(50:55):
just some of the bros kind of getting rid of
some steam, you know what I'm saying, Blown off little steam.
Get the ladies out there, get the get the get
the girls out front. And start torking. You know what
the girls are? Yes, sir oh.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
No, he knows.

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Thank you Roxy.

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Speaker 2 (51:44):
No birds left, correct, All birds are gone. Let's see.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
You say here is three year We Outside, We Outside
third year Anniversary, Saturday, November twenty ninth, starting at eleven pm.
You're out eleven to four m. Right segment called the
Blackout at the Privy on Elm.

Speaker 8 (52:05):
Let's go Willie Bengals Love Day brought to you by
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going to start Giving Night against the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
T Higgins is out. Let's see.

Speaker 8 (52:23):
Bengals wide receiver Jamar Chase Oh when he was suspended,
told Dan Horde that he worked out several days at
the University of Cincinnati Shakeley indoor practice facility.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Don't they have a better facility than the Bengals, I
would say so.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Not good? Well, Matt Shafe MATC. Shakeley is rich.

Speaker 8 (52:43):
Anyway, Willie Anderson, along with Louke Keighley, are among twenty
six semi finalists now for the Modern Era Players category
for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
At twenty twenty six.

Speaker 8 (52:56):
Let's see Colts defensive coordinator and former Angles d C
lou An Arumo. What is under strong consideration to become
the new headfoot in the next head football coach of
the New York Giants.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Well, of course he York got fired here. What about
what about Belichick? You forgot about Belichick?

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Now?

Speaker 3 (53:18):
What I don't know?

Speaker 6 (53:20):
Now?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
What what about Jordan who cares well? Bell Belichick does?
He cares a lot of good.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
I'm glad of Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Yeah, that's what he said about the past. Nothing about
the futures, right, now we're praying for Cincinnati. Let's see.

Speaker 8 (53:32):
I get the latest on the Zager Musketeers tonight on
The Richard Patino Show at seven on fifty five KRC.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Is Belichick coming to Cincinnati to coach the Bengals.

Speaker 8 (53:40):
No Bengals Up are Reds update the Hot Stove League
to night at six oh five. Their special guest will
be Reds pitching coach Derek Johnson Sonny Gray. The former
Red has been traded to the Boston Red Sox. You'll
like it for a couple of players, yes?

Speaker 2 (53:58):
How many players are name later? A whole bunch of
players name later?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Yeah, a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
See what else is happening here? Let's see all.

Speaker 8 (54:09):
There's still time for runners and walkers to get ready
for the one hundred and sixteenth running of the Thanksgiving
Day Race on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Got John Barrett on tomorrow. He's telling me that you
and he may run together.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Is that correct? I'll run as far as he does.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
TQL state in the new venue this year.

Speaker 8 (54:27):
There's still time to register at Thanksgiving Day Race dot Com.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Got about a thousand places left. It's going to fill out.
Get there, donate it, and the way you go segment.
Have you thought about becoming a long distance runner or
a triathlete? Are you crazy?

Speaker 4 (54:44):
No?

Speaker 8 (54:45):
You mean run swim and uh, no way, no way
on her?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Are you kidding?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Why why don't you do it? I've done the marathons,
I've done that. I about I mean, why not? Why
what about the triathlete thing?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
To kill you?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
I'd stop running marathons. I couldn't take it anymore. I know,
my knees, my back, got everything hurt. Those people do that.
I have all the respect. When I played golf. I
see people with the smile on their face. How many
times people run marathons with a smile on their face?
Not many pain Most of the time they're in agony.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
It's painful.

Speaker 8 (55:18):
But uh and and then I mean one of those races.
I think in Louisville they have all of those triathlons.
You swim in the Ohio River and everybody goes out.
I mean, you know, I swim. I mean you're like,
you know, if you're not a nice good swimmer, you're
you're you're underwater for a while. Wait, here's credit. Thunberg

(55:41):
looks at your right. She's now been banned in Venice, Italy.
She's been banned.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
She dumps the sort of green dye in the Grand
Canal in Venice, Italy as a protest against what Bill
Gates and environmentalism. Let it. She's that that woman is
irrelevant and immaterial.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Thank you. But I'm just.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Having it, just like Perry Mason ked, what is it
when you lawyers? Incompetent, incompetent, irrelevant and immaterial?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Thank you. That's what she is. That's what Perry said.
When you run marathons, Jack.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
Who is argumentative assuming in fact not an evidence leading
and suggestive and utterly incompetent, irrelevant and im material.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Oh that sounds like Greta Thunberg right there. You know,
the environmental wackos have turned on Bill Gates. What Why
do people pay attention to her? Because she's funny, but
she thinks she's serious. I look at her and laugh.
I feel sorry for her in a way. She's being
used by the radical latter day against Bill Gates for
he switched. He said, I wait a minute, I've been
on this environmental thing now for thirty years. I've spent

(56:42):
hundreds of billions of dollars. Guess what, no one's any
better off what instead of dealing with fuel cells and batteries,
Why don't we have more available natural oil and gas
and coal. Why don't we do that and stead Now
he's being crapped on by the environment of wackosi. Bill Gates.
Yeah said enough is enough. It's not working. We still

(57:03):
go to him and want more money. Second, the last
forty years, we spent seven trillion dollars on poverty, at
the same poverty today as we had thirty forty years ago.
Because when you fund poverty, you get more poverty. You
pay people to stay poor, and most people getting free
turkeys look like they could miss.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
A meal every now and then. You know what I'm saying.
I know what you're saying. Now, what are you watching?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
That's slender that's slender Man and stab Yeah, she is
got to just put her in a room somewhere and
just leave her. Look at her shoes. Yeah I'm stupid.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Yeah, I'm stupid. Well, she is stupid.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
I don't think she's going to escape anymore. You never know,
you never know, segment. She's like the Eckland brothers at
the Alcatraz. Right they got out, didn't they? Are they
still alive? Do you think I think one of them's
living in Rossmoyne. It's been about eighty years, so you
never know, segment never know, you never know what's going
to happen. No, Willy, And speaking of that, can you

(58:01):
tell me how the Inquirer did not put Mike McConnell
and Eddie Fingers and the top twenty of all time?
I have no radio personalities.

Speaker 8 (58:11):
There's some there are some people on that list, Willie.
I have no idea who they are.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And if you and I don't know who they are?

Speaker 1 (58:16):
And how is Lincoln where sixth and your seventh impossible?

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Impossible?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
I go along with Marty number one, Jim Stot number two,
Gary number three. No problem there because I've often said,
you know that that's a cavalgate of superstars right there. Correct.
But between me and Lincoln be Ware, we have ninety
five years in radio actively on the air. That's not big,

(58:42):
I don't know, but it's it's six seven six seven.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
You know what that is?

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Sixty seven?

Speaker 4 (58:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
By the way, what is six seven six seven?

Speaker 4 (58:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
I don't know what it is. Whatever it is, I
think it's a square root of something. What is six
seven six seven? What does it mean, what's the meaning?
What's the meaning of six seven six seven six seven?
I don't know. But they have Marty number one and
Jim Scott. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
You know what you said? You're number one in my book,
Thank you, Willie?

Speaker 1 (59:09):
So were you? And Mike McConnell's like two or three
in my book Andy Fingers is Eddie Fingers dominated FM
right for twenty twenty five years? What about the about
the prof I forgot Jim lear Barber not even mentioned,
not in the top.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Twenty the photos in there? Thank good?

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Votooto. I put Jim Lebarber in there, don't you?

Speaker 2 (59:30):
I would say?

Speaker 6 (59:30):
So?

Speaker 1 (59:30):
How about Dusty Rhoades the American dream Bingo? I put
him in there, don't you?

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:35):
And they have some names in there I never heard
of you ever heard of?

Speaker 4 (59:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Well, I'm in front of Ruth Lyons. That's not bad,
is it?

Speaker 1 (59:42):
That's pretty good?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
That's not bad. They're not bad. But uh, I don't
know what. I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
But it's somebody's opinion, you know what opinions are, Like
everybody's like, everybody's got one.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Of them, right, So I don't know what to tell you. Yeah,
I seg what else going on?

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Well, the we went.

Speaker 8 (59:58):
It got a sad note. Grandma, Grandma the Galapagos tortoise,
who is the oldest resident at the San Diego Zoo,
has passed away at at one hundred and forty one
years how old? One hundred and forty one years old.
One hundred and forty one. Grandma the Galapa ghost tortoise

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is the oldest resident in the San Diego Zoo, estimated
one hundred and forty one years old.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
H how about that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Well, what kind of animal is this? It's a Galopa
ghost tortoise. It's a turtle.

Speaker 4 (01:00:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
They they're like gigantic turtles. I've seen them a Galapagos islands.

Speaker 8 (01:00:44):
Yeah, right there off the coast of South America.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Am I correct? Yeah, yeah, it's an island. Penny wants
to go there? I said, you know what, dam had it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
I'll forget about de Rosemary Clooney and all the rest.
Here's the talk. How about how about the prof not involved?
How about Jerry Thomas not even in the top ten?
Number ten of all time? Allegedly is Virginia Payne Ryso
actress Virginia Payne played the elderly title in Maul Perkins number,

(01:01:16):
Virginia Payne No. Number nine all time, Bob Trumpy certainly
belongs right? Correct right a Sports Talk number eight all time.
Ruth Lyons correct number seven all time. Me you number six,
Lincoln Beware no comment, next number five, Joe Nuxhall, Oh

(01:01:41):
left hander, number four all time. Waite Hoyt, Yes, number
three all time, Gary Burbank, Yes, number two all time,
Jim Scott correct, number one all time, Marty Brenahan correct,
not a bad list?

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Where's Mike?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Where's Eddie? Where's the prop? Where's the prof? How about
Dusty Rhodes? Thank you anyway? Saga is that in sports?

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Coming up next to scheduled Denise three House Live more
games coming to Peate Course Stadium. Yes, I hope and
the daughter of Don dree House as you know, one
of my buddies with Sacho Wheety, Yes segment. Give me
out on the Stooge Report, please will you?

Speaker 8 (01:02:23):
And out of a rainy day here in the tri State,
we leave you with the immortal words of the Stood Report.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
Are you ready? God? I just want to tell you
it is very important you are. You're right?

Speaker 8 (01:02:39):
Unc Jersey getting pardoned by Trumpet. Now that's the that's
the bird Trumpster pardoning the turkey the bird. Yes on
news radio seven hundred w W.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Billy cunning End the Great American, Happy Thanksgiving to all.
In fact, tomorrow we've scheduled Western Southern CEO John Barrett
you talk about his race on Thanksgiving morning. And also
Governor Mike DeWine will be here, I think, expressing regret
about allowing gambling casino in the state of Ohio and
sports betting, and also what's happening with marijuana. But until then,

(01:03:30):
Denise tree House is head of the Hamley County Commissioners.
She runs the county with an iron grip. And Denise
tree House, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Denise,
how are you?

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
I'm good? Did you just say the governor's coming down
to run the turkey trot?

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Actually, John Barrett's going to invite him to wrong with them.
But if that happens, I want pictures of that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
Would you agree?

Speaker 5 (01:03:55):
I do too, I'm coming down If that's the case.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Let's talk about since first I want to issue thanks
to the Dreehouse family.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Are you ready for this?

Speaker 5 (01:04:05):
I'm with baited.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
Breath because you know, things occur for a reason, I think.
And there were many years ago you may not recall
in the late nineteen seventies, early nineteen eighties, when I
was coming into Cincinnati back from Toledo Law School. I
grew up here, but I got Toledo Law School, had
a good time there.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I wanted to come back home.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
So I go and b Larson hires me in Hamlet
County Public Defender's office to be an assistant public defender.
And from that I went to see Jerry Springer and
I said I wanted to get into politics. And at
that point, Jerry Springer was the mayor for the second Ideation,
and he said, well, I'll tell you what I'll do.
I'll call Saco Wathy and let's see if we can

(01:04:50):
help you out. So I spoke to Jerry, I met
Sacho Weeathy, and from that I met Don Dreehouse, and
I met Carol Grow and I met i Am Swafford
and Dusty Rose. In other words, those are the head
Democrats in the county. Would you agree, Oh yeah, the
old guard, the old Guard. And they put me in
the AG's office with Anthony J. Celebreezy and then William

(01:05:13):
Brown and I tried cases on behalf of the age,
and from that I ran for political office two times,
lost each time as a Democrat. But when I think
about Thanksgiving coming up, I'm thinking about your dad, I'm
thinking about Socco, I'm thinking about Pam, and I'm thinking
about Carol. And now their daughter is running Hamley County Commission.

(01:05:34):
So I want to say thank you to the Treehouse family.
Without all that being involved, I would not be here today.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
That is a lovely sentiment. Two things, though, I do
not run the county on my own, just to be clear,
there are three of us. And the other thing I'm
created about, what did you run for?

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Well, I ran for state representative in the House twenty
six House district and Sacco says, look, if I put
you in the AG's office, we want you to run
for something. I said, Well, I live in Madeira and
I'm a Democrat in Madeira, and at the time that
wasn't the most popular place to be me, and so
I ran against Helen Helen Fix. You recall a state
rep named Helen Fix. She was there for like fifteen

(01:06:13):
or twenty years. And I came up with this motto
and the motto was the fixes in, get the fix out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Vote the man vote Cunningham.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
And how did you lose that race?

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
I lost like seventy two to twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
And so on that point.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
Years decades go by, about five or six years ago,
you know, I had a heart valve replaced by Carriacus
Christ and so he changed offices on the second floor
the building there, and so I go up there and
I'm looking for Dean Carriacus's new office on the second
floor of the Christ Hospital building. And I walk up

(01:06:58):
to the to the administration desk. This little woman is
sitting there. She had to be in the nineties. And
I said, ma'am, can you tell me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Where doctor Dean carry Outs's new offices.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
She looked up and said, the fix is in, get
the fix out, both the man vote Cunningham. And I
looked it and I said, amazing, I said, are you Helen, Yes,
I am, I said.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
She said that had that slogan.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
Go oh my gosh, that's amazing her that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
I said. I said, this is wonderful. What have you
been doing well?

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
I retired and then I ran for the County Commission
and I didn't do well, and so I just went
into I voluntary. I said, can I get a picture
taken with you? She said I would love it. So
I I got, I run around the desk, put my
my phone up, got a picture of me and Helen Fix,
and sadly she talked about it two years later. So

(01:07:55):
then I get a call from Bill Site. You know
Bill Sitz stay represented.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
But this is what politics does, right, It's just I
got to tell you it brings people together.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
So I get a call from him two or three
years ago, said did you run against Helen Fix in
like nineteen seventy eight? I said wow, I said how
I did? She said well, he said, well she died.
And I have to do a remembrance on the floor
of the house in Columbus about Helen Fix. And I
gave him some you know some things I did. And

(01:08:24):
and you talk about how secute his life is that
there's Helen Fix, the fixes in, get the Fix out,
vote the man, vote Countingham. Don't you remember.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
That's a pretty clever slogan. I think that's very clever.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
I'm not sure it would work today, but you know,
I thought, you know, I'll play the gender card a
little bit. You know, women in seventy eight weren't exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Like today.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
You ladies control everything the county CA.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
I can't condone that. I mean, Lily, if you were sexispect,
then you know I can't. But here we are, here,
we are in a new day.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
You're telling me. I mean, men, we had our time,
but it's over. And whenever I think about you, I
think about don, I think about Socco and Pam, I
think about Dusty and anyway, let's go on current events,
so to speak.

Speaker 5 (01:09:10):
Oh but listen, they were such a tight knit group
and they loved what they did. They just they were
at the Board of Elections making sure everybody got to vote,
and they just were so committed to what they were doing.
That was really Those were good days for the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
And now they're better. But you were just a little
girl then, weren't you, Like you were like five or
ten years old.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
Well, you know, when my dad ran in sixty eight,
I was five and so but I remember that campaign.
I mean, we drove around the neighborhood with a bullhorn
on the top of the station wagon and we sang songs,
treehouse songs to German music. I mean, it was just
crazy and we all dressed up in red, white and
blue and took photos with styrochrome you know, hats on

(01:09:54):
and with the bumper stickers on the front. I mean,
you know, we love that stuff and we still love it.
I mean, it's it's in our blood. And we do
really enjoy getting out and meeting people and campaigning. I
mean it's it's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
I like to think you're the old guard, but not really,
but not compared to getting there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
You're getting there.

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
I'm getting there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
The Democratic Party used to be in the Veneyards, now
you're now you're in the mansion House. And and now
now the Republicans, the Republicans are on. Yeah, let's talk
about issues number one. What happened Friday night was just
unbelievable between you were there and I think, what can

(01:10:37):
we do that more often? And you know, my running
mate Rocky Boyman controls high school sports with an iron grip.
We do the games here at thirteen sixty. If there
could be some union or some understanding that contact high
school sports with as Rocky been in touch with you
about it, making this an annual event.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
Yeah, I've talked to Rocky and that's the expectation, is
that Friday will serve as a model for what we
can do next year in years beyond. Katie Blackburn was
down there as well, and so I've touched base with
her also and said, you know, that was just such
a great night for this community. The kids were fired up,
the adults were fired up. I mean, it was just

(01:11:16):
a great night. And it was terrible weather by the way,
but but boy did they put a show on with
the JumboTron and the ticker tape with Saint X and
Elder on it. So I'm super excited that we could
get that done. And a lot of credit goes to
the Bengals for reaching out the OHSAA and making sure
that they were on board and then getting everybody down there. Willie.
It's a huge operation. When you think about the concessions

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and the parking and the security and all the things,
and all those people down there working on that Friday night,
it was just amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Why did come together so quickly?

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Because and I guess why why didn't OHSA think about
it ahead of time? And why because when I spoke
to you on Monday, you and Katie got it done
like Tuesday morning, right, It was done.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
It was quick and and credit where credits do. You're
the one that brought us to my attention, so I'm
grateful for that. And then I brought it to Katie's
attention and then we all work together to get it done.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
Well, well, I'm making a nanda. I'm not sure Elder's
ever going to be undefeated, untied, unscored on ever again
at that point, and say next is always going to
be there, But I bet there's always going to be
a GCL school. I almost bet you that, or maybe
Lakota West, Lakota East something, maybe Cole Rain will arrive again. Unlikely,
but nonetheless, thank you. And you have more control over

(01:12:31):
the stadium now than you had before. Correct, after the
new lease was signed.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
Well, that's right, yeah, And it's all part of the
new lease where we said we want to use the
county asset, which belongs to the taxpayers, for more than
just football games for the Bengals, and so these high
school football games are part of it. Concerts are part
of it. You know, there's a lot that we've been
thinking through, but one other thing related to football, So
you know, I was contacted. Then after we got this

(01:12:55):
all worked out, then the folks from Anderson were contacting
my office. I mean take like a and eighty email
because they wanted their game to be played at pay
Corp and it was too late to get that done.
But we need to think next year about teams that
you know, are from all over the county, from every community,
having an opportunity to play there. And so maybe you

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know it's a Saturday with more than one game, the
logistics would be a little bit easier in that case.
Or you know, we got to we got to think
more broadly than just you know, I was thrilled that
Division one was there and the champion, the regional championships
were played there. But we're going to have to make
sure that others have an opportunity to So I'm super
excited about next year and years beyond.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
Could you imagine starting like at one o'clock and having
having four games. I got a hold of Beechwood and Covcast.
They would love to play at pay Course Stadium. Let's
not forget one third of the market. I would think
one third of the business to the Bengals come from
northern Kentucky, and why not have a Kentucky game, an
Indiana game, and two Ohio games. Or three Ohio games

(01:13:59):
and one Kentucky game. Rob Sanders and that group would
love to play at pay Court. And let's face the
sales tax revenues generated from Northern Kentuckians. It's millions of
dollars every year. They want to be invested. And that's
even though it's not direct. Would you be open to
the idea of love allowing one game to be played
by maybe Cuvcat against speech Wood something like that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
Well, at this point I'm open to all ideas, but
I to be clear, my focus, of course is going
to be Hamilton County and making sure Hamilton County teams
get I mean, you know it is it is their
stadium after all, but you know, open to anything. I mean,
it could be more than one weekend. I mean, we
need to think through this and figure out what we
can do by way of Bengal schedule, concert schedules and

(01:14:42):
high school football games because when people think about that stadium,
they want high school football games played in that stadium
and so and we wrote it into the least for
a reason, right, and so now we're this is our
response so far, but we need to use this as
a model moving forward. And the Bengals are obviously open
to it. So it's a new day when it comes
to some of these different kind of events down in

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the stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
Now, there's several big plots between pay Corps and the
Great American Ballpark that are vacant and open. I've seen
the inchoir, the city in the county go back and forth.
Can you tell us the status of those large plots
between the two stadiums that are at this point vacant
and what is your plan?

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Yeah, so the Urban Design Review Committee presented to both
the county and the city last week to give us
their best ideas. And this is a group that's city
the County are at the table, the Bengals, the Red
but we have the other retailers down there weighing in
music venues, some of the retailers the Freedom Center, and
so we need to take a look at this. It

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was our first time seeing it. So it's got a
lot of residential in it. It's got some retail commercial,
it's got a hotel which I thought was interesting on it.
It's got a little bit of office which I'm not
sure that comes to fruition. But anyway, so we've got
a plan in front of us now, and so it's exciting.
I mean, I'm anxious to get this done right, to
finish out the banks. So Lot twenty four, the biggest,

(01:16:09):
has the infrastructure already built. So this is the infrastructure
that lifts it out of the floodplain and creates that
parking underneath. And then we need to do similar to
the other lots that are still vacant, do that under
build and then make sure that we've got some appropriate
development on top.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
What does a brand new twenty thousand seat arena fit
in that plan? Does it fit more at TQL or
does it fit more on the riverfront which already has
the infrastructure.

Speaker 5 (01:16:39):
Well, I have said all along that if we're going
to build a new arena, we should take advantage of
our built infrastructure, and so that is parking, and that
is other assets that belong to the taxpayers, to the public.
And so obviously the location down on the riverfront allows
for us to use all the parking that's already built

(01:16:59):
down there now by the arena, so we know it
can accommodate that. And I've seen some renderings where they
have taken down the old arena and then built new
on that same footprint. It moves a little bit and
expands a little bit, but it's down in that area.
And then, of course, the other two options are the
space up by the Convention Center that will be made

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available through the reconfiguration of the Brent Spence Bridge. There's
about eight acres to the west of the Convention Center
that's going to be freed up, so that's something to
think about. And then the other location is up by
FC in the west end.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
And who's going to make that decision at the arena
because I call them the masters of the Universe. On
one hand, you got John Barrett, You've got Casteline, you
got the Brown family, you have the banks. On the
other hand, you have Carl Linder, you have the farmers,
you have Jeff Birding, you have TQL the masters of
the universe.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Are those two going to fight with each other?

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
Well, I hope not. I mean I hope that we
can come together other you know, he left out the taxpayers.
I mean, I know what you're saying, but the public,
you know, should have a say in this too as
to what they think. And then the other piece of this,
by the way, is that we have not figured out
a financial stack for this I mean, you know, in
the end, we need to have the financing together. We

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are nowhere near having that completed. And so, you know,
while I think it's important to talk about the sighting
of a new arena, I think it's secondary to who's
going to pay for it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
So if somebody with deep pockets walks up and says,
if it's seven eight hundred million, I'll put in five
hundred million, whoever pays for the band calls the music.

Speaker 5 (01:18:42):
Oh well, that would that would be something to think about.
That does not happen. But but you know, we we
need to bring all the partners together for sure. And
I've talked to both you know, Phil Castellini and Jeft
Birding about these locations, and so there is a desire
to do this together. And so I don't know that

(01:19:03):
people will be antagonistic about it. I think we need
to sort it out. But there are real positives and
negatives to all of these sites, and we need to
think it through as a community.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
You Charlie Lugan told me at the time that we
ought to cover the Fort Washington Way. We should cover
that in seventy one that would gather ten to twenty acres.
Is that in your plan too, to put a cover
on the top of that, which would recover a bunch
of acreage. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
So those are called the Fort Washington Way caps. That's
been on the drawing board for a while. I remember
coming here when I did in twenty seventeen and Fortune
was talking about it back then. It's expensive, but it
has been built to do it, so all the infrastructure
is there. We just need the money to do the
caps themselves. And so in the last couple of years,

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the Chamber of Commerce, the city, and the county have
all advocated to the federal government to say, hey, this
would be a real benefit to the businesses that are
already there and create more energy down there.

Speaker 9 (01:20:02):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
And we asked them to help pay for that that
I can't remember. I think it was a Tiger Fund.
I can't remember exactly, but we did not win that bid.
But we continue to advocate to the Feds to help
us pay for those caps.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
Oh and I got JD. Vance and we have Bernie
Marino who we got John Houston. How about how about that?

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
Yeah, No, you know, we've we've reached out and we've
we've advocated for this. You know, it's hard Willie, because
there's so many things going on right now that are
really exciting by way of economic development. But you know,
the one we just completed is the Convention Center, and
that was the city county collaboration. And now we've got
a headquarter hotel going in across the street to the south.

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And I don't know if you've seen the site to
the east where the Millennium used to stand, but man,
oh man, it is amazing. The landscaping is beautiful. They've
got an ice rink down there right now, there's a
dog park, so it's going to be active year round.
But it is just amazing some of the investments that
have been made very recently by the city in the

(01:21:04):
county to bring economic development to this region. So you know,
we can't do it all at once because we don't
have the revenue to do that. But I do think
we're forging forward in a way that we haven't, you know,
in the last maybe decade or so, with the city
and the county in lockstep.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
An East tree house.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Maybe one day I'll be a Democrat again. With Soacco
and Pam and Carol and Don and Jerry and Dusty
Rhodes wouldn't that be something?

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
It was fun with their love for what they were
doing really translated out right, and you knew they loved
what they were doing, and we all love that they
loved doing it right. They were great for this.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Community, wonderful people.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
All right, Denise tree House, thanks for coming on the
Bill Cunningham Show. We'll do it again and thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
All right, Thanks Willie, God bless you.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Let's continue with more memories like the corners of my
mind A news radio seven hundred WULW.

Speaker 7 (01:21:57):
I wish all Americans are happy Thanksgiving and may God bless.

Speaker 9 (01:22:01):
You in a collection system which.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
Casting or not.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
And the presidency of number forty three Bush and Cheney
he was okay, not enough. I look on Conny, Yeah,
I would closely expand government. Yeah, and look at us
side of a war we didn't want to get involved in.
And we had the A team. We had Bush and
Cheney and Powell and Rumsfeld. We had the A team
right know exactly what they were doing. Seven thousand guys killed,

(01:22:40):
spend trillions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Now, what what have we got?

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
You're going to go to war, which I don't think
we should. We should avoid it all costs. But if
you're going to go go in there to kick ass
and take names, and we didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
I had too many rules of engagements. Talk to the
guys involved. Couldn't do this, can't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
Yeah, and then once we blow some stuff up, then
we got to spend trillions of dollars. Was rebuilding it
and apologizing twelve times. Now that was Bush and Cheney. No,
but that's why you got Donald Trump. And in that regard,
I'm very grateful for George W. Bush because he's now
we now got the greatest president of my lifetime.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Well, Bush brought your buddy Barack Husain Obama. I mean
after Bush people said I want Obama, and after Obama
eight years ago he said we can't take this anymore.
We won Trump. And after they set up the twenty
twenty election. Guess what, Now we got Joe Biden and
Kamala Harris. For God's sakes, Now we're back to the Trumpster.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
I have hope.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Now, I just spoke to your friend Denise tree House. Yes, explain,
I brought the Northern Kentucky angle. This is something for
you to think about if you're going to be the
empisario Okay, I talked to guys at Scott Tacket, et cetera,
from Beechwood to covercath Why not have four games there
start at one o'clock, do it all day to like
the Marquee games at eight and get Northern Kentucky involved.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
That's the key is you know, is for the Bengals
for that we're at staying to be open on a Saturday.
That's the key to the whole thing, because yeah, you
get get four more games there would be great, great,
And why not? I have already talked with Denise. We're
gonna make a big push in this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
Start championship games there. Can you even consider what they
got a contract with camp?

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
That's not gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:24:15):
We'll break the contract? Well, I say, I say each year.
You know what breaks contracts? Sake money? I say, Canton Columbus,
and here do it revolve it. It will never be
a Columbus, even though it should be. How about Nipper,
I mean, changed that rule, that's what that rule needs
to be. Work on that one to stupidest rule level.

(01:24:37):
That's really stupid. How about Nippers, Nipper, it might be better that.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
I played the high school playoff games. Yeah, tens of thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Thousand people there just packed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
You ready to go to pay corps.

Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
Yeah, but I think we can get not just the
Division one state semifinals there, but you can get Division
two and get Division three. You can get some Kentucky
teams involved. I I got Anderson head coach Evan Dryer
four thirty today.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Talk to him.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
Yeah, I'm going to talk to him.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
How about Northern Kentucky. Think about Northern Kentucky's You're coming
to do everything, and they leave their tax dollars here,
don't use the services and go back home. Why not
say to them, Okay, we're going give me a big
game here and we'll put it in.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
A paper with islands and Cove, cath and beach. Would
they bring.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Fans absolute now? Not not like Deer Park in Saint X,
But I bet they bring quite a few. How about
Luke Kickley, one of my buddies whose mother went to
Deer Park High School, might be in the NFL Hall
of Fame. He wouldn't speak at st X, but he
spoke at Deer Park. Do you recall that I do?

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
I was there. You believe it? I yes, because you make.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
It mom possible. You go to mom.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Somehow there was a connection the mom with his school
at de Deer Park, and she wanted her son to
speak to benefit Deer Park, and he wouldn't speak at
st X.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
I say, he hasn't spoken to any st X events
that I'm aware of.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
He's a little shy. Shall we say?

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:25:58):
He is?

Speaker 4 (01:25:58):
He does not.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
He's not a guy that is he going to be
in the Hall of Fame. I think he very well
could be defensive Player of the Year, right, Yeah, that's
big Jesus semi finals.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
He was Rookie of the Year and Player of the Year.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
How many players have that?

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Not many.

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
I guess the argument against would be the career was
a little bit shorter than someone like But I mean
to me, it shouldn't be how long it is, it's
how impowerful were you?

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Why you were playing at Gail? No, he's in there.
Did he play like four or five years, hurt his
knee something like that? Six or seven comment. Yeah, he's
in the Hall of Fame belongs to him. How about
Eddie Fingers not being the top twenty of all that? McConnell,
come on, come on me, Eddie finger come on, come

(01:26:39):
on Top Morning Show, Top morn Show for twenty something
years after it, every morning driving him school. Never now
I work with him.

Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Outrageous.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
How about Mike McConnell, top rated another one twenty five
years and you.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
Got beat up by Lincoln b Ware. What's your thoughts
on that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
He texted me?

Speaker 1 (01:26:56):
I want to show you that he said his six
seven six seven six seven?

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Is that correct? They made him six and me seven?
Is that six seven? Is that a message?

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:27:06):
That says some stupid thing the kids are on into.
You can't hear that signal in Butler County.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
No, not top.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
Twenty let alone Nashville, and you can hear this signal
in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Here that county. No, can't hear it?

Speaker 6 (01:27:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Yean here in Green Township Ken heret Harrison.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
If you're talking about amount of people reached over a
long duration of my time, Mike McConnell, Eddie Fingers, Eddie Fingers.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
How about Jim Lebarber? How about Danny re America Love
the American Dream? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Auditor, Well, when you got on the Big Show.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Wait, well I get let's get to say first seg
I'm sorry, Please give me some sports.

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Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
Can be right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
I like Lincoln. He's a veteran. You know, I respect
the Marine. You can hear me all over the world
on Facebook.

Speaker 8 (01:28:08):
Okay, Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits and uh.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Why you show?

Speaker 5 (01:28:14):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Why didn't you get him?

Speaker 4 (01:28:16):
I want to get on a show. Does he have
the guts to I don't know if I've put it
out there for many, many years. Would you go on
the show and answer the questions?

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Why didn't you answer?

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
Seg?

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Would you go on Lincoln be ware.

Speaker 8 (01:28:26):
Party Town and Florence is open on Thanksgiving Day. Bengals
practice tonight inside pay Course Stadium. Get ready for that
Thursday night battle at Baltimore. Bengals Ring of Honor inductee
Big Willie Anderson number seventy one, along with Since.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
The Native Louke Keighley about Luke Keiley.

Speaker 8 (01:28:42):
Are among the twenty six modern era semi finalists now
for the Pro Football Hall of Fame and can put.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
Him in want you know, and out if he's close,
If he's in or close, But if he's twentieth, that's
not good.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
Yeah, I guess, all right, So who are all the
semi finals?

Speaker 6 (01:29:00):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
I think Adam Vinny Harry is one of them.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
He's going.

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
He's going two years with the twenty six different guys.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
But that was to look and see who he's stacked
up every year. There are certain, you know, like loaded
classes and maybe not Minitara.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
How about the kick he made to put them in
the snow and all the hell of a guy too.

Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
That dude was wild.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
What's he doing now? Living life and hunting and fish shooting.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
Stuff, being a Harriet got in fast, expensive cars.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Trucks, cursing, chewing tobacco.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
He was one of a great This show off their
I got this rock, Lincoln b Ware says, tell the rock.
He's welcomed. All right, let's go. I'll give you his number,
all right, do it to me. College football.

Speaker 8 (01:29:42):
Get the latest on the bear Cats tonight on the
Scott Centerfield Show.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
They're a TCU to wind down the season.

Speaker 8 (01:29:48):
This Saturday Original Montgomery in at eight o five on
seven hundred wl W Richard Patino Show, Get the latest
on Xavier seven o'clock on fifty five k r C.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
Maybe you go on and all go on, Lincoln, handle
the truth, handle.

Speaker 4 (01:30:03):
The truth, talk some Trump, We'll talk a little politics,
talk some sports.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
About what great what Democrats have done in the city
of Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Talk about that a little bit.

Speaker 8 (01:30:11):
You want to Red's Update Hot Stove League tonight at
six oh five here on seven hundred WLW. Red's pitching
coach Derrek Johnson is the special guest. Former Reds pitcher
Sonny Gray has been traded today by the Cardinals to
the Boston Red Sox.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Lincoln says, tell Rocket to bring Trump's jockstrap because he's
been sniffing on it for years.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Take that in with you, yes, sure.

Speaker 8 (01:30:35):
Back to the National Football League Defense Colts defensive.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
Coordinators radio later after mine, lou and.

Speaker 8 (01:30:43):
Arumo says, somebody reports are there strong consideration for him
to become the new head coach of the New York
Football Giants?

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
What about Bill Belichick? Rock as much chance, I told you,
I thought that was gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
I thought he was gonna win eight games with North
Carolina tar Heels, and then they were going to fire
Brian Dable, which they did and he would be the
next coach, but e didn't win enough games, would be
the mar family does not want the baggage? Is that
safe to say?

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
How does the seventy three year old man have baggage
just recently created?

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
How does that work?

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Jordan Hudson is it's the most amazing thing that's ever
happened to a coach.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
I feel and this guy, you talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
A guy that's just dialed in nothing but eat and
sleep and breathe ball for fifty years.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
Now one thing and all of a sudden.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
But it's the one thing, Wally, that's conquered many of
men across the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
Empire side penetration. Penetration got president.

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
How many wars throughout history have been started and fought
and men have died.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Over, especially a cold play.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
Commendous penetration, undefeated, untied, unscored on and it still was undefeated, unted,
unscored on.

Speaker 2 (01:31:57):
Well, some woman shows up.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
The three of us is running on the hallway immediately
out of here, Willie. We also want to thank you, man.

Speaker 8 (01:32:07):
We also want to thank Montgomery In for our lunch today.
So Montgomery In is starting December fifth through the December
twenty third, starting at noon, they're going to be open
for lunch both locations at the original Montgomery In and
Boat House. So celebrate the holidays and style Montgomery and
Lunch starting December the fifth.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Send you the stuff sent to me by Michael about
the the Privy as their blackout party on Saturday nights
seven people that Privy bar segment goes to. It's like
eighteenth in Elm on the north side of OTR that
has parties. I mean some serious parts. I used to
know where the hotspots were in Cincinnati. Now I'm just
an old you wouldn't. I'm not sure white and redhead.

(01:32:49):
I'm not sure you'd fit in.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Black people love me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
They do. I do a lot of you see some
of the black women.

Speaker 4 (01:32:55):
In fact, they especially to love me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
They put the girls out front, believe me. Yeah right there.
I got a video too. If you want to see
the video, I'll send it to you. They shut down
the streets, open up the boom boxes, get out the blunts.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
You're not some MD. You go some tequila. You know
about all this?

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
The girls This is a pretty descriptive thing the radio.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
What happens the girls.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
Sneak out of the house.

Speaker 4 (01:33:18):
You ever had a girl towerk on you? Willie?

Speaker 1 (01:33:20):
You have to think about that. You wouldn't even know
what that is.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
To operate on the air. He's thinking, we're going to
maybe one of your past girlfriends. I mean, Tanya's going
on with us at three thirty soho we ask her
if that's.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Ever happened, mask her with her, but ask Cheri, Cherie,
ask her about the tork. Oh boy, I can't say
before she married Mike. That's a different story. I shouldn't
go there.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
Mike know about this, not yet.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
He doesn't know what's on the big show today.

Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
Right out of the gate, we have a Glenn Clark
of a Glenn Clark radio show in Baltimore, gonna talk
about the big game against the Ravens Tanya. At three
thirty five, we have doctor Bruce Herman, who's our our
plastic surgeon doctor. At four o'clock, Evan Dryer, head coach
of Anderson High School thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
And oh how about putting them? They wanted to play
down there, But I know I try to make it
happen it just what.

Speaker 9 (01:34:07):
They tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Can't make it happen well because of.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
The time, because they had to be on a Friday,
that game would have to start at four thirty or something.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
I can't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Can't do it well.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
Next year, get it done. Get it done next year.
Don't forget Northern Kentucky. Yeah, put them in there. Somethow
I'm in there. Maybe the Milon miracle against uh Lawrence
Burg something like that, put them in there.

Speaker 4 (01:34:29):
Or what about like a like a preseason thing, I
got kickoff, do it thing normal? You know? Yeah, central
made sense. Yeah, get a couple of rivalry games beginning
the season.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
On a Saturday. Yeah, be great, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:42):
Can you make it a high school season starts well
before you know the pro season starts.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Two three weeks. You're gonna make it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
I'd be fat before everyone gets speed up. Sand X
is only winning because a lot of the other schools
have injury problems.

Speaker 4 (01:34:55):
Here we go. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
I can good at the segment. By the way, is
taking Middletown to beat the Bombers? Is that correct? The
hundred bucks up front?

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Shout out? Put the money up front, big boy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
Yeah, I'm with the bombers. I'm with the bombers, right,
you got it. I want to get paid on Monday. Okay, again,
you're wearing your blue shirt today. Funny how that works.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
I love the Bombers.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
They win on with him win or when say get
me out of the student's report.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
As we got new information.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
On who Jordan Hudson jeez, undefeated, untied on.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
Score on that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
He needs psychat or help.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
That's justice. Joe.

Speaker 8 (01:35:42):
Is he going to be here maybe tomorrow with a
Thanksgiving Day message or something you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Can't say, can't say, I would that?

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
Okay, I got I think I have John Barrett on tomorrow,
plus Governor Mike de Wine, the blue Bloods.

Speaker 4 (01:35:55):
He said, Joe on once a week.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
He wants to go on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Sharon Kennedy, the chie that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
Him that was always a problem with with Pat Fishers,
that he always he's a brilliant guy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
I'm like, all right, good, come on showing Joe wants to.
But Sharon Kennedy, the Chief says, don't do it. Don't
make a fool, He's not worth it. It demeans the
court just to appear with me, said, it demeans the court.
He's got a point program makes it look like clowns,

(01:36:26):
like I'm sorry, give me out of the studs, report
I feel.

Speaker 8 (01:36:29):
Willy in honor of a rainy day here in the
tri State, but and then getting colder six seven sixty
seven sixty seven. We leave you with the immortal words
of the steward.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
We'll see what happens, won't we. He appears now only
in our memories, like Charlie

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
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