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Speaker 1 (00:07):
By Billy cunning him the great American. Of course, the murder,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk has shaken the nation to
some extent, maybe not as much as all of us
would like, because it appears that about one third of
the American people consider that to be a good thing,
believe it or not. In fact, there's a new an
NBC News poll that one third of self identified Democrats
one third say political violence is sometimes necessary against some
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political opponents. That's one third. That's tens of millions of
people who kind of think political violence might be acceptable. Jonan,
you and I now has Gabe Guiderini. He is the
field representative for Turning Point USA here in Ohio. And Gabe,
welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
before we got onto the politics of the day, can
you tell me the impact and the effect that the murder.
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I call him the Saint Paul of the twenty first century,
Charlie Kirk had on the movement as at this point
of six weeks out.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, it's just been and thank you for having me on.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It's just spending an incredible, you know, moment for the
whole team. It's been a really tough two months for
the whole team, and really what we've been trying to
do ever since what happened on September tenth is to
try to ignite something in people from what Charlie started,
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to help his memory live on. And that's what I
believe we're going to be working to do, especially in
the run up to twenty twenty six, and especially after
what happened last night, especially for young people like myself.
It was hugely impactful what happened. It was it was
a huge wake up call, and I think that there
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needs to be more of a message translated to more
young people and more people of all age groups about
what happened and about what this means for the country.
Because we saw what happened lastlast night with Jay Jones,
who fantasized about murdering a Republican lawmaker and his children.
We saw what that meant for you know, he didn't
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face any consequences for it. So we have to message better.
We're going to continue to fight for what Charlie built,
and we're going to continue to try to live up
to his legacy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh Jay Jones. That just briefly, Jay Jones said things
like three people. I only have two bullets. I have
my political opponent, a guy named Gilbert. I got Adolf
Hitler and I got Paul Pott. That means the Republican
gets two shots in the head, and that means Hitler
and Pole Pott must live. He also talked about watching
his political opponent's children die in their mother's arms, and
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most of the pundits said about Jay Jones in Virginia,
you know what that guy's done. Not only did he win,
he won by four percentage points, and so political assassinations
are acceptable and rhetoric concerning them to a chunk of
the Democratic Party today. And to me, of all the
results a mom Donnie winning in New York City and
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Mikey Cheryl winning in New Jersey, those weren't shocks. But
when when the chief law enforcement officer two years ago,
when he was in the General Assembly in Virginia, talks
about murdering your political opponent and watching his children die
in their mother's arms as two kids almost, I mean,
I don't know what to say. Was that a shock
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to you more than anything else?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, it was a shock, And I didn't really realize
that we.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Had come to this point until now.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
You know, a lot of people have been talking about
how radical the left has become and how radicalized the
Democratic Party has become. We kind of saw it a
lot after September tenth, with the reaction that a lot
of them had, which was very vile to Charlie Kirk's assassination,
but we didn't really think that it would translate to
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votes correct Democratic Party. And in many ways, it's really
you know, it can draw a lot of pessimism to
the point where we now recognize that in many cases
the time for debate has ended and in many in
many you know, in many ways, what we're seeing right
now is that they're not looking to have a debate
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with us. They're not looking to understand our position. They're
focused on vitriol. They're focused on vitriolic rhetoric, and.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They believe, and many of them do believe.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
That Republicans already are an inherent threat to their life
and there's no reasoning with that. You cannot talk about
taxes and you know, all the actual issues that Republicans
campaign on to people with that type of mentality, Republicans
have to dig in. And this is what Turning Point
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Action has been doing. I work for Turning Point action,
which is the five to one C four electoral wing
of turning Point. We're not focused on debating the left.
We're focused on beating them in elections and swamping the
ballot boxes with voters who are fed up with what's
going on with Democratic politicians across this country. And we're
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just going to keep doing it, and we're going to
build up more infrastructure so that we can get more
people out to vote. Republicans are just not enthused to
vote when Trump isn't on the ballot in the same
way that the Democrats are fixated on every single person
who has a Democrat labeled by their name. And this
is kind of the Republican parties, you know, we're kind
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of honorable to a fault.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Republicans, they pick and choose their candidates. They care a
lot about the quality of their candidates. Democrats will vote
for any vile, vitriolic person with a D by their
name at the ballot box. We have to make sure
that our voters know who's on the ballot, what's at
stake every single election cycle, and that takes turnout. And
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when Trump isn't on a ballot, we have to build
the infrastructure to be able to get good people out
to vote. That's what we're focused on doing.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And gave Guyennerini the turning point USA Field rep. When
someone like Mom, Donnie and I don't know if you're
up late, but I'm kind of a newsgeek and I
watched the whole thing last night. He's yelling and screaming
at large numbers of New Yorkers in New York City
attacking Donald Trump from New York City. I watched our
mayor have to have peer of all. Much of his
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speech was all about Donald Trump. Donald Trump is Satan andcarnate.
He's the boogeyman. They run against him in the city
of Cincinnati. They run against Donald Trump. And the fact
that Donald Trump's half brother was on the ballot meant
that Donald Trump was on the ballot. And the only
way we can win as a Republican democracy is to
have and informed electorate that understands past the hype that
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the Republican Party stands with the three things Charlie Kirk
believed and above all else. Number one is God Almighty,
Number two is family, and number three is America. Those
are the three things, and you seldom here about God.
The family and America. When you have liberal Democrats talking
about the greatness of our country, Mom, Donnie, did not
talk about God, did not talk about family, did not
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talk about America except what people can suck out of
the system. And so when, for example, about two weeks ago,
the Senate Republicans put up a standalone bill to get
rid of the shutdown. Okay, you don't want to continue
a cr which is Biden spending, All right, let's just
put the work air traffic controllers in TSA just that group.
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The Democrats said, no, keep the air traffic controllers out
of the skies. Number two, they put on a standalone
bill funding food stamps. Let's fund SNAP. Democrats said no,
we're not going to fund SNAP. So and then they
put up a standalone bill, let's pay the military. You
would think Democrats would say in the Senate, Yeah, we
got to pay the MILLI No, the Democrats said no.
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They're in the business of inflicting as much pain as
possible upon the American people, hoping the American people not
being informed. We'll blame Donald Trump when the Democrats vote
against funding the military. Can you smell when I'm cooking?
Speaker 3 (08:11):
I can indeed, and a big, big part of that
is because historically the Democrats have had more money than
the Republicans, and the Democrats are the ones being funded
right now. You know, this isn't the old days of
the country Club GOP. The Democrats are the party that
were the financial drive. The financial machine of the party
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is being driven by our nation's richest billionaires and it's
powering their financial machine.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
It's keeping them going in a big way.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
And Republicans, we may not have the financial advantage right now,
but what we do have is the advantage in that
we have more people who truly believe in what we say.
We have more people who are actual god fearing patriots
in this country who believe what we say and believe
in the ideals that this country great, in the ideals
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that Charlie Kirk believed.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Then we just have to tap into that. Right they
don't have people.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know, here in Ohio, for instance, like half the
majority of the counties in Ohio don't even have a
functioning Democratic party apparatus at the county level. Every county
in Ohio has a Republican party apparatus. We need to
tap into our manpower, and our manpower is not. It
doesn't need a financial machine to drive it. It just
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needs passion and enthusiasm and training. And that's what Turning
Point Action is trying to do. We need to make
sure that we can turn these people into soldiers for
their neighborhoods and help make sure that they're able to
get their neighbors out to vote and inform them about
what's going on. That takes building up a lot of
infrastructure to make sure that that happens.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
And Gabe a lot of work lies ahead. The midterms
is going to be critical. If, for example, the House
of Representatives turn into the hands of a Keem Jeffries,
there goes to Trump agenda, it's over with. Here comes
all the impeachment bills. It will continue, and God forbid,
if they take the Senate also and they have the presidency,
then it's going to be Puerto Rico is going to
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be a state, Washington, DC is going to be a stake.
They're going to have fourteen justices on the US Supreme Court.
The Democrats will get rid of the filibuster as soon
as they can, and as a consequence, the country is
going to be completely different than it is today. But lastly,
I'll give you one another atlantidote. I got a call
from Turning Point USA person in Miami University close to you.
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You're in Dayton, but this is in Butler County largely,
and they had five and six people coming to their
meetings about six months ago. Now they had five or
six hundred. Have you noticed on college campus as a
yearning and desire here in Ohio to have a functioning
Turning Point USA and to turn these minds of mush
college kids into marching soldiers. Have you noticed the difference?
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And where is the interest level?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
The interest level is suited the roof. I mean, ever
since September tenth and what happened to Charlie Kirk. Young
people are just fired up and they're seeing what's happening.
They're seeing the direction in which this is heading. And
even you know, here's the thing. Before September tenth, I
would say a majority of college students on my campus,
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which is the University of Dayton, are you know, lean
to conservative. They lean towards the political right on the issues.
They were you know, they didn't like the Democrats. They
don't really like you know, Biden. They didn't really like
what was going on with Kamala Harris. But they were apathetic.
They were more focused about, you know, doing what college
students do. But ever since September tenth, what has happened
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is these young people on our campuses have woken up in.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
A big way.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
They're starting to realize this is where our country's headed.
And I may be, you know, these people may be
in college now. They may be you know, just doing
the college things, you know, trying to enjoy the experience,
but they're realizing, what when they're out of college, what's
going to happen If the country is on the track
that it's on right now, if the left is on
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the rhetorical track that they are right now, and they're
really concerned about it, and they're starting to wake up
in a big way.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
They're realizing, we have to do something about this now
or else.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
As soon as we're out of college, we're not going
to have an enjoyable life to live, let alone our
kids and grandkids. So that's really what's driving it and
the amount of growth that turning point USA chapters across
the state and College Republican chapters. I'm chairman of the
Ohio College Republican Federation as well, we have twenty two
chapters across the state. What these campus organizations are seeing
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is rapid growth, and it's really you know, the important
thing is just to not just get people in the room,
but also to activate those students to be able to
make that difference in their friend groups and their communities.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
And their neighborhoods at the ballot box.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Just about bringing people into a room, it's about equipping
them with the tools and knowledge necessary to be able
to go out and make that difference outside of the chapter.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Gab that's what we're trying to do.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Jame Gurney Reny, I got to get your website, but
it's about God, family and America and seldom on Democratic
party functions. To see a lot of those activities, hopefully
in a Republican and if you capture some kid eighteen
to twenty three years old committed to the calls, more
likely to stick with it. Gabe, what is the what
is the website? If college kids there are others listening
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around the triestate would like to be in touch.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
For Turningpoint USA, which is our five oh one c
three with the campus chapters. It's TPUSA dot com. I
work for Turningpoint Action, which is the electoral wing that
is tpaction dot com.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
And we work with the Republican Party. We do the
ballot chasing and.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Too good luck to you and full you think it's
over it, it's just be gonna know. The Democrats are
doing the macarina right now. And uh for a Democrat
to win in New York City or Virginia or New
Jersey or California, it's not startling and surprising that they
wanted to moralize people like you to think, Okay, you've lost,
we won. Know your role. Shut your mouth, Gabe, go
back to the books. Forget about the organizing college kids.
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Because the days of God and family and faith are done.
That's the message that they want to give to you.
And I said, you have not received. You may have
received that message, but you push back against it.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Correct, absolutely have. Their celebrations are going to be short lived.
We're going to come back with a vengeance.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
God willing, God bless America. All right, Gabe Guiderini, thanks
for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show the day after
the election, and we'll talk later. And God bless you,
and God bless America and God bless the family of Charlie.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Kirk, thank you for having me. God bless God, bless
you all.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
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