11-6-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie talks with Commonwealth Attorney Rob Sanders about the opening of deer season and violence in blue cities. Also Kentucky Auditor Allison Ball describes the abuse she found in the Medicaid system. Finally Congressman Thomas Massie gives an update on the shutdown and his thoughts on the career of former Speaker NAncy Pelosi

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Well, let's continue out Thursday afternoon, the priest did.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Of course, the Bengals are off sun and we'd to
rest a little bit and get ready for the matchup
against Pittsburgh a week from Sunday in Pittsburgh should be
an easy victory for someone. But until then, of course,
Rob Sanders is the kent County prosecutor. Learn more about
him than I ever wanted to know. He disinvowels a
deer every now and then. And Rob Sanders, I want

(00:29):
to talk to you about the politics of what happened
in Cincinnati. I want to talk about murder cases in
the city of Maryland, which is germane to what's happening here.
But first of all, I had no idea you would
shoot and disinvow deer.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Is that correct, Willie? That's what we do in Kentucky.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
I mean, we make bourbon, we make moonshine, and we
killed deer in the opening season. Our modern gun season
opens this Saturday morning at sunrise. And so I will
be up in a tree standard in an undisclosed location
just a few count south of my home county of
Kenton County, and we will be uh spending a lot
of time down in that area getting ready for deer

(01:08):
season tomorrow, and then of course we will be in
trees with guns, just hoping to find a Bambie or two,
maybe Bambi's dad.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
With a nice big rack. But we will be looking to.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Uh, you know, I gotta hang another one on my wall.
A lot of people, if you've ever been in my office,
a lot of people don't know this, but there are
actually trophy deer heads all.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
In my office of them. Right now, you get another one.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Hey, Tom, I'm coming to your office. I can't imagine
I saw you. I thought you were beying sophisticated et cetera.
I find out you have dead animals hung on your wall.
I gotta come out of them.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
I'll send you some pictures. Well, unfortunately your listeners won't
be able to see these, but I'll send you pictures
of the did they're over. If you ever do a
zoom conference with me, you'll see them in the background.
They love that down in some other parts of the
nation where maybe they aren't as big a hunters as
we are here in Kentucky. But I always get a
few gas and a few jaw drops anytime we get
on zoom for I'm kind of conference calling there is

(02:02):
that Are those dead deer on the wall behind you?
I'm sure are Anyhow, the good news is, Willie, we're
here to celebrate the fact that the Bengals will not
lose this weekend. Noah got that is the one that
is the best news I think we can possibly share
and talk about today, is that we will not be
suffering through a Bengals loss this weekend. So between deer

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season opening up and the Bengals not losing this weekend,
it's going to be a darn good weekend. I'm looking
forward to.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
It is it points? Is the number of points in
a deer head. I mean, what's the greatest number of
points or bucks or whatever it is that you shot.
I think about birdies and eagles hitting greens in regulation.
Making a six foot putt which I didn't make yesterday
against Jeff Beckham it took forty bucks off me. That's
a different story. How many points is it the biggest head,

(02:50):
the biggest deer you shot?

Speaker 5 (02:51):
What do you call that?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Well?

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Points is how we typically measure the deer's antlers and
literally how many points there are coming out of the antlers.
My it's kind of ironic. We normally think the more points,
the bigger the rack the deer has. My most number
of points was twelve, but that wasn't the bigger It

(03:13):
was a smaller set of antlers with lots of points
on it.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
The ones that are hanging in my office.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
I've got an eight and a ten in here that
were much bigger, much thicker, much taller racks that these
deers had on them, these bucks, So they are the
ones that made it to the wall, not the twelve pointer,
which had what I would call a basket rack. It
had lots of points, but it wasn't very big, so
he didn't go on the wall.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
How do you get a big rack?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I mean, what do you got to do If I'm
a male deer and I'm running around trying to track
a bunch of dose, how do you get a big rack?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Well?

Speaker 4 (03:45):
You know, well he takes a lot of patience. You
gotta wait for the right one to come by, and
you just never know, you know, there's always gonna be
lots of little racks that come by. See the world
just is too filled with with little, small racks. But
sooner or later one with a very nice rack is
going to come by, and you just got to be
ready when that happens to take advantage of the moment.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
All right, Now, do you shoot male deer or female deer?
Can you shoot bambi? Is there restrictions on what kind
of deer you can shoot and how many deer you
can kill?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, you can only take one antlered deer one buck
per season under Kentucky rules. It varies a little by
little depending on what part of the state you're in.
But up here in Zone one, which is northern Kentucky,
we've always been restricted to one buck per hunting season.
But you can get unlimited dose.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
You have to buy extra tags once you kill so many,
but there's all not only do the dose taste very good?

Speaker 4 (04:41):
You know, you can fill a freezer with dough meat
just as easily as buck meat, but.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
They are just as tasty as the bucks are. And
it also helps.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Depending on where you're hunting, if you thin the dough
herd out a little bit. That means those big bucks
with the nice racks, they have to move more to
find their dough girlfriends. So the more they move, the
better chance you have of a nice big rack walking by.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Do does have racks like transgender deers are only males recks.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
No, Fortunately, deer have had no problem differentiating between who's
a dough and who's a buck. Now, every once in
a while, maybe somebody shoots a deer that was a
long way away and they thought it was a dough.
They didn't see its rack because the rack was too small.
That's one of the dangers of going after something with
the small rack, and you get up on it and

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you find out it's a little spike buck or button buck,
and then you just wasted your buck tag on one
buck that didn't have much of a rack. That's definitely disappointing.
I've only had that happen once in my deer hunting career.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I try to avoid that. That's why we tend to
go for the.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Bigger bucks, with the bigger racks, something hopefully we can
hang on the wall. That's always what I'm thinking about
when it comes to the buck because if I'm going
to use my one buck tag, I want to make
sure it's something bigger than the last one I shot.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Oh, you want to shoot a dough at a big rack?
Always said that's kind of a waste of time.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
But that doesn't work.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
That way, the dose don't get bigger like we said
that small gender. We had dose with no racks. Those
are just for the meat and for the good of
the order keeping Herdin down. You know, we have to
protect our cars and our out on our highways. We
have to protect all our cars in Kentucky from this
deer herd that's getting out of hand. So the more
we can shoot, the safer it is for everybody to

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drive down.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
I seventy five and I seventy one.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I've never been in your office. If you have dead
animals on your wall, I want to come watch. Now
let's get onto the issues of the day. You sent
me this article. This was a revelation in the city
of Baltimore. Quote murder rate drops in Blue City as
prosecutor vows, you will go to prison if you commit murder.
So can you explain to me this revelation. The prosecutor's

(06:48):
name is Ivan Bates. Must be in a hotel somewhere
talk about Ivan Bates and this revelation he's had about
enforcing crime, this.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Novel concept, and it will it's if you put criminals,
if you put dangerous, violent felons in prison where they
can't kill anybody, your murder rate goes down. I didn't
know that we could get press, you know, earned media,
nationwide publication of a theory as a prosecutor, a theory
that if you put dangerous felons behind bars and don't

(07:16):
let them kill people, your murder rate will go down.
It's like, well, no kidding, that's the Ironically, that's the
theory that I've been operating on for nineteen going on
twenty years now in Kenton County, and it's a novel concept.
I know that locking up bad guys reduces crime rates,
and not locking up bad guys, not punishing dangerous violent felons,

(07:39):
not keeping them incarcerated pending trial, that tends to up
your crime rate.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
It does the opposite, Willie.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
I know that there's a lot of cities, especially blue cities,
big blue cities, where they can't quite wrap their heads
around it. But it sounds like Baltimore, Maryland has finally
come around that I've been Baits. I've never had the
pleasure of meeting him, but apparently he's a really smart
when it comes to big, big blue city prosecutors. That's
figured out what we've known in Northern Kentucky for a

(08:06):
good long time. And that's if you'll lock up the killers,
you have less killing.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
He said.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Quote when I ran for office two years ago, I
ran on a platform or going after repeat violent gun
toting offenders. Those were the individuals that we knew were
causing terror in our communities. And he actually got elected,
and so he got elected. Now he said, there might
be as many as five thousand of these individuals who
causing mayhem, committing over one hundred thousand crimes. This is

(08:34):
a small percentage and a small number of the total.
But nonetheless, in Cincinnati, Joe Dieters has said it, and
I think Connie Pillage has said it that if you
take five hundred people off the streets of Cincinnati, take
off a few hundred, it saves the lives a few
hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
But this is not the case.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
There's a case out of a blue city in Texas,
and there are blue cities in Texas in which a
repeat offender who committed mass shooting, a mass shooting was
given a sixty thousand dollars a cash bond, and he
posted it and he's out, And so the message is
in Covington, Tony tells me, Bender tells me. He's not
afraid to have dinner in downtown Covington. He goes with

(09:15):
his gun, but he's not afraid to have dinner there,
unlike over the Rhine. So are there large numbers of
gun toting offenders in Comington that you're gonna go after
or have you already done it?

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Well, that's the thing, just like Tony Bender. You know,
all of us in northern Kentucky, we all have our guns, Willie.
That's why we're all so happy, and we smile and
we wave at one another, and we don't have problems
because we're all armed, and everybody knows that everybody else
has got a gun, so nobody's got a problem. Nobody
gets nasty and grumpy and starts anything that, you know,
any kind of trouble because there's a good, good possibility

(09:47):
that anybody would be starting in trouble with is armed
as well.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
So it keeps the peace. I like it.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
But no, we've operated under this theory that you take
the violent criminals off the streets, you take the felons
with guns, dealers with guns, and you lock them up,
and you don't have any kind of second chance or
third chance or some cases sports or fifth chance that
when you start committing felony offenses with guns, that is

(10:14):
something we are not going to tolerate.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
You know, we'll take people that.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Have substance abuse problems, we'll put them into treatment, We'll
give them multiple chances to get straight and get off
the drugs and quit hurting themselves. But when people start
making crime victims out of innocent civilians, that's where we
draw the line.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Because you know, if you.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Take five hundred violent felons off the street, five hundred
might sound like a large number, but you have to
figure the number of people that they are making into
crime victims is exponentially larger. That's thousands of people that
you are sparing from being in crime victim by taking
there would be criminal off the street before they can
rob them or rape them, or assault them or God forbid,

(10:52):
kill them.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
How about this?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
And Baltimore's a little bit in the city thereof is
a little bit larger than Cincinnati. But the prosecutor there,
Ivan Bates, the results speak for themselves. In just two
years his office in two thousand, one hundred repeat violent
offenders in prison, double the amount ut of the previous administration.
And because of that that the murder rate is down
thirty four percent. Serious, fella, you gun crimes are down

(11:15):
forty percent. And now citizens actually at night can walk
around downtown Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
How about that one.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
I mean, that's a novel concept, Willy. It's wow.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
You know, you take violent felons and you lock them
in a cell where they belong, and next thing, you know,
law abiding citizens can enjoy community. It can be a
community where you live, worn't, raise a family and pay
your taxes and otherwise enjoy life. That's that's how life's
supposed to be. That's if every prosecutor was doing that
all across the country in all jurisdictions, large and small, rural, suburban, urban, downtown, uptown, wherever.

(11:54):
If everybody did that, we wouldn't have the killing fields
in some areas of the country that we do. Some
of the cities in the United States are currently more
like Bagdad or fellushat their war zones. And it's just,
oh man, it's frustrating to watch when you're a prosecutor
and you're one that's doing it right, and I like
to think of doing it right.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
And I know we have several others.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
You know, in northern Kentucky like Mike Zimmerman and Lewis
Kelly and my neighboring counties that they're doing it right.
And we hate to see citizens and other jurisdictions that
can't enjoy their community safely like we can in Northern Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
I'll put a period on this sentence. Bates said the
Baltimore's justice system had an earned reputation for leniency for
many decades.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
He said, quote, there's no magic pill.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
You just have to really hold violent offenders accountable. When
they know they're going to go to jail, their attitudes
change greatly and it sends the message. Well that's a revelation. Secondly,
you had the situation in the election Tuesday in Cincinnati
where we're on the same course the Cincinnati police, and
we got rid of two two judges who actually were good.

(13:02):
Judge Josh Berkowitz is the presiding judge Hamliny County Unicipal Court.
He lost to a clerk in the clerk's office because
she was a Democrat. He was a Republican, and we
lost another seat. Judge Sunderman lost. As a consequence, our
judiciary is going to be like the judiciary in Baltimore
and have you noticed any leaking of crime out of

(13:25):
Cincinnati onto the kind streets of Covington. I know you
have a sign up there that says welcome. Have you
noticed any change the last few months, the last couple
of years, Well that.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Welcome, Son Williams.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
For all the people that are leaving southern Ohio when
moving to northern Kentucky, because there are quite a few.
You know, we are generally speaking a very red area
of the country in terms of the way our elections go.
But we're getting transplant residents moving south across the river
of all ILKs, of all political persuasions.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
And that's fine.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
We welcome Republicans, Democrats, independence. I'm not sure we want socialists,
but you know, as long as they're law abiding citizens,
and we can probably tolerate or even.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
One or two of them.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
But the bottom line is is we elect good judges
that use common sense, and they keep people locked up
when they're in on violent charges. We don't see the
problems that they do in a lot of big cities
with no bail or low bail, and it really, you know,
it kind of scares me. We do have leedover crime.
We have a lot of criminals that I don't know.
Apparently they don't listen to your show, or they don't

(14:27):
watch the news. They don't figure out that things don't
work on the south side of the river the same
way they do on the north side of the river.
So they come over here and they try some of
the shenanigans they get away with over there and think
that they're going to be bonded out the next day
with no bond or something like that, and they're shocked
when they find out that Kentucky judges keep drug dealers
locked up, they keep fellas with guns locked up.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
They keep people that assault folks, shoot folks.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Strangle their girlfriends or wives. Those are the kinds of
people that they generally speaking, get a high bond, and
unless you've got a lot of money to put up,
it's collateral to promise that you'll not only show up
to corporate, that you won't violate your bond, you won't
commit any new offenses. You're gonna be sitting there and
you're gonna be sitting there for weeks or months until

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your case grinds its way through the justice system, and
then you get out on the other side and find out, well,
we actually send people to prison still in Northern Kentucky,
that you're dealing drugs or a felling with gun, or
you're hurting somebody's strangling somebody, we have violent offenses, and
we'll put you in prison for it. It's a novel concept.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
You know.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
It's new in some places like Baltimore, but not here
in Kenton County, and not in Northern Kentucky, not in
Kentucky in general, with a few exceptions. So it works,
you know, it makes it better for everybody. So much
politics is like a pendulum willing. Unfortunately in some places
they're just going to have to wait for it to
swing back the other way. And although we do have

(15:51):
a little bit of pendulum swinging from time to time
in Northern Kentucky, it's a much different pendulum swing. It
tends to stay in the law and order, public safety, quality,
place to raise.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
A family type pendulum swing.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
It doesn't swing way back over into let's just let
all the criminals out to run the streets and just
see what happens. Because of that experiment, it hasn't worked
well in other jurisdictions, and we're not really willing to
find out how it will work here.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Now we have to run.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
But I'm looking at the great picture here of Ivan
Bates outside of elementary school. When I took office, he said,
we had one hundred and twenty prosecutors. We now have
two hundred. The police force has now hired an additional
three hundred police officers. He said, people now have hope
and we're moving in the right direction, especially when it
comes to island crime. We need more law abiding citizens

(16:38):
moving into the city of Baltimore, not moving out.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I'm committed to changing this city.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Wouldn't it be great if we had a mayor of
Cincinnati saying that kind of stuff. But nonetheless, Rob Sanders,
good luck, and Tony Bender, and I've got to go
to your office. I want to see the dead animals
on the wall and those points and those heads, and
I always like to see a great rack.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Well, Willie, you're welcome to come over here and check
out the rack anytime. A couple of them in my office,
nice big racks. But you know, I need to get
away from that. Sy Gonna say something. I haven't had
to be bleeped out in a long time on WLW,
so I'd really trying to keep that streak alive. Nevertheless, Willie,

(17:22):
you know, I hope we get to talk more. The
folks over in Cincinnati have just been dominating your airwaves
these days, suspended police chiefs and riots and shootings and
murders and all kinds.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Of stuff, and it's just it's silences.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
It's over here in northern Kentucky where we're safe and
we're boring, and you know, we like to keep it
that way. But but it's good to talk to you
and Tony. I hope that we get to do it
again sometime soon, hopefully before the next hunting season, because
that doesn't come around for a whole nother year. But hey,
if nothing else, hopefully i'll talk to you before Christmas.
You know, maybe maybe you're opening day Red.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Season something like that.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
The worst comes to worst, we'll get together for the
next Vanilla Ice concert at the Red Game.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Rob Sanders, good luck with your hunting. I guess next week,
and get get a big mail buck for me. That'd
be great.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
I like him.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I like watch him get disavowed. I like that kind
of stuff makes me feeling, man.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I feel for everybody in Kentucky hunting season.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Willie smears blood on my face. I'm gonna red smear
his blood all over me. All right, Rob Sanders, I'll
be on the golf course, Thank you very much. Ro
Let's continue with more. I'm going to smear deer blood
all over my face and feel like a man for
the first time in my life. On news radio seven
hundred Wow, all right, Dave Keaton, hit the music, Hit

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the music.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Coming up later, we have.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
A Congressman Tom Massey will be here talk about the
shutdown and so much more, and see where we go
from here. And he was recently married his lovely wife
I met a couple of times. Died about eight months
or a year ago, someone unexpectedly, and the sadness that
he felt was profound. And he has met and married.

(19:02):
I think she was an assistant to Senator Rand Paul.
A man or a woman is not meant to be alone,
especially men. We men do not do well without ladies.
As you may know, I was born of a woman,
I was raised by women. I married a woman, and
when I die, I'll be cared for by women. So
women are the key that keeps civilization intact. Without women,

(19:25):
we'd have no civilization, which might still be in trees
eating bananas. And trying to spare each other to death.
But women are the key element that brings civilization to all.
And I'm very happy for Tom Massey that he has
a good woman, that he's married, and he's a special person.
And we'll see what happens with his reelection, but I

(19:46):
support Tom Massey.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
He's a good man. Now.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Secondly, when I look to my right, the President was
on Fox News talking about ozempic and other obesity controlling drugs.
It's going to be as little as fifty dollars a month,
and he considers that to be a health care situation
because so much, so many Americans are fat, obese, and

(20:10):
we live in a world filled with sugars and cokes
and ginger ales and McDonald's and all the other fast
food restaurants, and so many of us do not work
out to do anything.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
So this is important.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I looked to my left and it did a whole
half hour segment of CNN about what a great Speaker
of the House and leader Nancy Pelosi has been. So
on one hand, the media is pumping us with the idea,
you know what, this is wonderful, This is wonderful. Nancy
Pelosi needs to be wine dined in pocket lined. There
cannot be a more vile, disgusting a speaker in American

(20:44):
history than, of course, Nancy Pelosi. If you want to
see her hand you work, go to the city of
San Francisco and look what her policies have done there
with open air drug use. They have a poop map
when you walk around downtown San Francisco, tell you what
blocks to avoid because all the homeless poop and urine
that's all over the streets. There's no law enforcement. There's

(21:06):
no functional criminal justice system in her hometown as San Francisco,
and there's no function in public schools. Open air drug use, homelessness,
drug in the streets, much like parts of Cincinnati. And
we will become San Francisco if we continue in these policies.
So I will restrain from complimenting Nancy Pelosi on the

(21:28):
policies that involved the destruction of her hometown in many
other hometowns. And I also would note that the media
is added again with mam Donni so Iran Mamdani, the
mayor elect. That the columns include things like the era
has begun. Another one says is so Iran is the future.

(21:49):
I'm thinking, Wow, communism is the future of this country. Wow,
We're going to be in great shape. It is really unbelievable.
So we'll see what happens with the media coverach, but
they didn't cover the fact that Americans are going to
improve their health because the Medicare Medicaid is going to
pay for ozempic help individuals control that. What the mainstream

(22:10):
media cares about is pumping up Mom Donnie as the future,
a new era begins, and or the glories of Nancy
Pelosi who tore up on national television the State of
the Union address of Donald Trump about six or seven
years ago, tore it up, And if a Republican had
done that to bronc Hussein Obama, the riots may still

(22:31):
be continuing now. Secondly, the issue of waste fraud and
abuse is something we care about. As a taxpayer. I
care deeply about the government being gained for personal benefit
at my expense. And if you work and pay taxes,
you have a big dog in this fight. And when
Trump took office for the second time, he issued a

(22:54):
memorandum to the Executive Department to eliminate waste fraud and abuse,
not talk about it, but actually do it. Quite wasting
billions and billions and billions of dollars that go into
the pockets of the criminals and unscrupulous. So two areas
is medicaid, the other one is food stamps. And all
the stories from the media is about what a terrible

(23:14):
thing it is for Americans to lose food stamps. And
if you're half of the American people that receive food
stamps under the program, I'm with you. The free for that.
The free store food bank does tremendous work because those
who show up there actually pick it up. You look
in the eyes of someone's no one taking a cut

(23:35):
of the action. That is not the case with fruit stamp.
With food stamps, US Department of Agricultural Secretary Brooke Rawlins
said that our agency has found, believe it or not, quote,
massive fraud and the snop programs. So the Executive Order
director of May six said, please do a report within
six months. One of the items she found is that

(23:59):
there's approximately five million of the forty two million Americans
who receive food stamps every month that are dead and
they've been dead for a long time. Unlike the christ
they're not going to raise them the dead. Now, why
keep that going. But the answer is she's not going
to keep it going. And that is the tip of
the iceberg. Believe it or not. The states administer the program,

(24:24):
but is funded by the federal taxpayer. In other words,
you and I about twenty one states have not sent
to the Department information about who the SNAP recipients are.
Let me say that again, twenty one states refuse to
tell Washington.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Who's getting food stamps.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
She's discovered five million individuals of the forty two million
total that are dead, and I would think if my
simple Deer Park math is correct, and thanks again for
passing the Deer Park School every by the way, and
they're going to do great things with it. None the less,
I regress that number is going to be ten to

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twelve million or fifteen million of the forty two million
they're dead. The benefits are delivered in a card called
the EBT card, and if you're dead, you have a
hard time eating. So someone gets those cards and use
those improperly in or sell the cards at fifty cents
on the dollar. She anticipates of the five million that

(25:24):
are dead of the states that I've shared the information
to Washington, that it might be another five to ten
million that shouldn't should not be getting them at all,
and the cards for those five million have been deactivated.
And this has been going on for a long time.
So also in the nineteen seventies, which wasn't so long ago.

(25:45):
I remember many events from the nineteen seventies that one
in fifty Americans receive food stamps, one in fifty. Now
it's one in eight. Why it is assumed that the
needs of the poor have gotten so much greater, it's
assumed that that the food stamps must be available, But

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in reality, the system is being gained by large numbers
of people who collect literally billions of dollars every year
that should not be collected. In June at twenty twenty four,
this is under the regime so to speak, of Joe Biden,
the USDA reported that about twelve percent or or about

(26:30):
eleven billion dollars in SNAP benefits were paid in the
fiscal year twenty twenty three that were improper, but there
was no action to stop it. Let me say that again,
Joe Biden, nobody's in charge that his own USDA said
that there's about eleven billion dollars and SNAP benefits paid
in the fiscal year twenty twenty three that were improper.

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Criminals have targeted SNAP benefits, especially in the Blue States
because they're so lax. According to the federal dashboard across
the fifty states, the federal government said the states approved
about seven hundred thousand stolen benefits with a value of
three hundred million dollars in the first four months of
this year. So to say we're in trouble with governmental

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spending would be a great understatement. She's waiting for the
data from the twenty one states that refuse to say
who's getting him and who's not getting the food stamps.
And of course the threat is, believe it or not,
we're gonna cut off benefits if you don't tell us
who's getting and we can cross check through various AI

(27:37):
and computer techniques whether this should be getting him or not.
If you don't tell us, we're gonna stop benefits. Can
you imagine the media outcry? By the way, Ohio has shared,
Kentucky has shared, Indiana has shared. Can you imagine the
media outcry if the Trump administration cuts off all SNAP

(27:57):
benefits to the states that will not share their data
with Washington. The states administer the program and the FEDS
pay for it. Now, the FEDS have a dog in
this fight because you and I as taxpayers, would like
to know that our money's going to the right people.
We want the hungry to be fed, this able to eat.
I want kids in poor circumstances to get food. I

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want the Freezetorre Food Bank to greatly survive and to flourish.
But of the one hundred or so billion dollars in benefits,
at least half should not be paid in the first place.
So over that's fifty billion dollars. That's about a billion
dollars a week. Plus it would encourage people to quit
committing crime. So we'll see what happens. That's this next

(28:38):
shoe to drop. And I can only imagine the outcry
of the mainstream media. I can only imagine what's going
to happen if Donald Trump cuts off SNAP benefits to
the twenty one states New York. They're all blue states
that will not share the benefit data. What is the
advantage of not sharing the data? Why wouldn't you say
here it is, here's the list of people that are
receiving SNAP benefits EBT cards and determine if they're getting

(29:03):
benefits in numerous states, which of course would be wrong, illegal,
illegitimate and criminal, or determine if they're alive or dead.
You know, they can cross reference probate courts immediately and
find out if someone is dead.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Do you want the dead to get food stamps?

Speaker 2 (29:21):
I think even Democrats will say no, that's not good,
but they will not share them. They will not share
the data. And if you don't share the data, it's
a problem. Then you can't determine if it's legit or not.
And why aren't the blue blue states determining?

Speaker 5 (29:34):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (29:35):
It is?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Time now to get real when it comes to food stamps.
I wish the media would do this story.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
They don't. I just did.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
And secondly, I'm going to put a call in at
about fifteen minutes to Kentucky Auditor Alison Ball and shes a.
I often read the Washington Examiner, which is a great publication,
by the way, and she has a column and the
Washington Examiner, which is a great servative publication. Alison Ball,
according to this story and we're going to talk about

(30:06):
it in about fifteen minutes, the office uncovered eight hundred
million dollars in wasted medicaid dollars in Kentucky alone, money
paid out over a four year period for individuals who
no longer live in the state of Kentucky. And they're
collecting multiple Medicaid services in multiple states. And once again,

(30:28):
Medicaid is administered and partially paid for by the state,
but mainly paid for by the federal government. Needless to say,
once again, the Blue states are not sharing all their
Medicaid information with Washington because Trump is in the White House.
But to have eight hundred million dollars in the small

(30:48):
state of Kentucky over a four year period where individuals
have gained the system for great benefit ought to be
a problem. Is that a problem? Absolutely? Even the administration
determine that there's at least one hundred billion dollars a
year in medicare Medicaid fraud, waste and abuse, where dead

(31:09):
people are getting services and where there's multiple services provided.
And then secondly, there's unscrupulous doctors who put up offices
with pill clinics in which they sell synthetic heroin and
ship the bill off to Washington for them to pay.
And the complete reformation, the reform of the federal government,

(31:30):
I think is underway and it will stop if a
year from now the Democrats seize control of the House
of the Senate. And I don't understand why good thinking Democrats,
and there are many, don't get on their own party
to say, you know what, the idea that we're going
to spend hundreds of billions of wasted dollars flood the
system with Medicare medicaid fraud, and then in the foodstamp program,

(31:54):
our own states will not share data with Washington because
they don't trust Donald Trump's Washington to make good decisions.
And it's a consequence when the shoe drops that we're
going to stop benefits, then all hell's going to break loose,
and the media will not cover the fact that five
million dead people receive food stamps, another five million or
probably illegal aliens that are legally shouldn't get them, and

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a whole bunch of others are getting multiple food stamps
on multiple accounts in multiple states. How does the state
of California know or not know if a SNAP recipient
in the state of Oregon is getting benefits in both states?
How would Washington? How would the state of Oregon or
the state of California know that unless someone is checking
to determine from Washington where the payments are going.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Does any of this make sense to you?

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Now, let's continue.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
After one o'clock today will be that Kentucky auditor Allison Ball,
who some say could be the next governor of the
state of Kentucky. She's run statewide twice and won by
wide margins, and she is a conservative Republican who wants
to spend her time rooting out waste for out an abuse.
Then after two o'clock today will be the Great Thomas Massey,
Congressman from the Northern Kentucky of Kentucky, Northern Kentucky Party

(33:09):
of Kentucky, to talk about the legacy of Nancy Pelosi,
what's happening in Washington, and now you and I are
affected by the so called shutdown, which I'm told by
a certain US Senator there's a group of nine senators,
five Democrats and four Republicans that are meeting regularly to
come with a way to resolve this thing. But all

(33:32):
of them have said that Chuck Schumer has to have
a win. He can't simply say, Okay, we made a mistake,
stop what we're doing. We're going to open up the government.
Then we'll talk about these issues down the road. Chuck
Schumer must have a win, so somehow the government must
open in a way. What Chuck Schumer can say, I

(33:53):
told you so, we won. They lost because you can't
comply with any of the request of Donald Trump. If
you're a Democrat, you can't do that. So give Chuck
Schumer a win, whatever it might be. Let's open up
the damn government. Let's continue with more. Red's getting ready.
Of course they have the schedule off for spring training Bengals.
I'm not going to lose this Sunday. The next play
next Sunday in Pittsburgh, and of course tomorrow we're going

(34:15):
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Speaker 6 (34:45):
The Grand American.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Of course, Kentucky otto.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Ra Allison Ball has a great story about here in
The Washington Examiner that deals with medicaid fraud, which I've
fought for a long time. There's massive waste fraud in abuse.
In fact, everyone agrees there's massive waste fraud in the
abuse was almost the reason not to go after it.
When it comes to the foodstamp debate, according to the
Department of Agriculture, there's approximately five million dead people getting

(35:11):
food stamps. There's another five million illegals getting food stamps,
and there's massive use of food stamps for like currency
in certain parts of our world. And also in medicaid fraud,
the Kentucky Auditor has discovered eight hundred million dollars I said,
eight hundred million dollars in wasted Medicaid dollars in Kentucky alone,
paid out over four years for individuals who may longer

(35:34):
may no longer live in Kentucky, they live somewhere else.
In fact, in one instance, Alison Ball discovered to be
receiving Medicaid benefits concurrently from eight different states that same
Kentucky auditor, Alison Ball is with us now and Alison Ball, welcome,
I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show,
and first of all tell us the for those who

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may not know what is Medicaid, who actually pays it?
Who should be ALLEGI just give us an overview.

Speaker 6 (36:02):
Sure, Sure, And that's a great question.

Speaker 7 (36:04):
So Medicaid is it's basically health care for low income people,
and it's something that's massive. It has federal dollars, it
has state dollars. Every state participates in this program. So
it's the kind of thing that really is vulnerable for
wasteful expenditures. I'm sure that if we were to dig
for the rest of our lives, we would find lots
of wasteful expenditures when it comes to Medicaid. So we

(36:26):
actually took just one discrete issue in Kentucky.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
My job is the auditor. I protect against waste, fraud,
and abuse.

Speaker 7 (36:32):
So we took one particular issue in Medicaid payments in
Kentucky and we look to see if there were any
people who we were paying for in Kentucky who were
also listed as residents in another state that other states
were also paying for.

Speaker 6 (36:44):
So we didn't look at the whole Medicaid expenditures.

Speaker 7 (36:46):
We actually just took just one issue, and in that
one issue alone, we found over the course of four years,
eight hundred and thirty six million dollars were paid to
people that were listed as living somewhere else too, so
that means there were actually double payments. And some say, hey,
this is three, four, five, six, and seven and eight
payments for the same individual.

Speaker 6 (37:05):
So this is important to remember.

Speaker 7 (37:06):
This isn't like this person is getting benefits in both places.
You know, you get your health care where you are,
So if you're in Kentucky, Kentucky's paying for you.

Speaker 6 (37:14):
Then you move to Ohio.

Speaker 7 (37:15):
And then if Ohio and Kentucky you're both paying for
you, you're not getting double the benefits. They're not getting double
the you know, cardiologist exam, they're getting one. So it's
entirely a waste of money. There's nothing to show for it.
And it's the kind of thing that I think is
important for everyone to be aware of because our indications
are that this is happening all over the country.

Speaker 6 (37:33):
It's not just Kentucky.

Speaker 7 (37:34):
We actually did this in conjunction with three other states,
and we all sort of worked together as we looked
into it, and Ohio was one of the other states
that would participated in this, so I know that Ohio
also had the same issue. Oregon and Washington also participated
with us, but I really believe this is probably every
state in the nation has this problem.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
And it's called concurrent.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
Medicaid payments, which means you have somebody who's listed as
living in more than one place, and that just doesn't
work when it.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
Comes to your medical care. You're only getting your medical
care where you're at.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Well, where does the money go?

Speaker 2 (38:05):
For example, when I get medical care, none of us
really care about the cost of it because someone else
pays it. If we had market forces, it would be different.
We took nobody would ever buy a couch or a chair,
whatever it might be, without knowing what it cost. Many
times in medical business you don't know what something costs.
You simply submit yourself and go is this money the
eight million, eight in thirty six million discovered as fraud

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over four years just in this small little sample. Do
these moneys go to medical providers or do they go
to persons that are poor?

Speaker 6 (38:37):
So that's a great question.

Speaker 7 (38:39):
And the way Kentucky has it set up, and this
is pretty typical throughout the nation.

Speaker 6 (38:42):
We can do either two types of payments.

Speaker 7 (38:44):
We can pay with call fee for service, so you
go to the doctor sends the bill. Kentucky pays the bill.
That's not what we do in Kentucky very often. We
do it a little bit, but we don't do it
very often. We typically do what's called MCOs. Those are
called managed care organizations TECH. He pays an MCO pays
a certain amount and basically says, Okay, this person now
can get whatever medical coverage they need from whatever location,

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and this this MCO is.

Speaker 6 (39:09):
In charge of making sure that that that happens. So
it's actually probably one of the least connected to the
person systems that you could come up with.

Speaker 7 (39:19):
It's got this middle person who actually here is the
one receiving the funds.

Speaker 6 (39:24):
The MCO gets the money. The MCO has got eight
hundred and thirty six million dollars. So that's one of.

Speaker 7 (39:31):
The things we talked about in our audit is that
there probably needs to be reforms in how this is
done because it's not set up in a way to
ensure that the person who's getting the medical care is
actually in fact that the money is going to the
right ways.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Alison Ball, can you recover the money across the country?
This has got to be multi billions and billions of dollars.
Can the moneys be recovered.

Speaker 7 (39:51):
So that is a great question, and we kind of
reviewed that a little bit on our end. So we
looked at the contracts that Kentucky entered into with MCOs
and we found that none of the contracts had a
mechanism for recovering these funds.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
So that's a problem step one.

Speaker 7 (40:05):
There wasn't a I know that should have been anticipated,
right like you would think if you're drafting a contract,
this would be one of the primary things that you
would think about.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
So we made a.

Speaker 7 (40:13):
Strong recommendation to the conwal to Kentucky moving forward, anytime
you enter into a contract like this, you have to
have a mechanism to be able to get this money back,
and that puts some pressure on the MCOs to make
sure that they are in fact paying for people that
live in Kentucky. There might be some other ways to
do it, and I'm gonna turn you back background. So
there are times when when somebody is enriched about something.

(40:34):
You know they've been paid for something, but the services
weren't actually given to the person or something like that.
There are some ways where you can do it, and
I think that probably would be the way to go
about it if you wanted to Unfortunately, you're also talking
about money that occurred over a four year period of time,
and it's hard to claw back those dollars on you
once you have it happened for a few years, so

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there may be some ways, but unfortunately, the ways that
should have been set up to be able to get
this money back it was neglected.

Speaker 6 (41:00):
And I'm saying going forward to need to make sure
this is in your.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Contract, Allison Ball.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
When this particular government program came into effect, and we're
talking hundreds of billions of dollars every year for medicaid
services that aren't being accorded correctly in fact of fraud.
I can recall Lyndon Baines Johnson. I've seen the video.
This is going to take care of the old folks,
got Medicare for those that have some assets after the

(41:24):
age of sixty five. This is going to solve the problem,
and it didn't. I would have thought that after sixty
some years, this system would be set up from Washington
and from the state capitals to make sure that these
hundreds of billions of dollars are adequately spent for medical
care and not enriching those who shouldn't.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Be receiving it.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
And I would have to also think that if someone
is getting medical services through Medicaid through multiple states, you
yourself know you should not be doing it. Does the
recipient have apprehensions that this is wrong?

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Question?

Speaker 6 (42:00):
And that's one of the things we pointed out too.

Speaker 7 (42:02):
We also looked at the contracts that they didn't have
any kind of requirement for a proactive review on the
part of these MCOs. So they did have some requirements
that if they knew something was fraudulent, they'd have to
let us know. And that's that's pretty much like your
bare minimum when it comes to a responsibility.

Speaker 6 (42:17):
But I think going forward, you have to make sure
the MCOs.

Speaker 7 (42:20):
Bear responsibility that they have to be monitoring this, not
just the Commonwealth of Kentucky, and Kentucky should have done better.

Speaker 6 (42:26):
Like in full fairness, Kentucky dropped the ball here.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
We did a review about our internals and we found
that the Basher administration had really neglected the oversight that
needed to occur, like basic things like if you get
a notification that somebody has moved, you have to check
and make sure where do they actually live. And internally
here in Kentucky, staffers were told, hey, this is a
low priority.

Speaker 6 (42:48):
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 7 (42:50):
They really weren't given instruction and training for how to
review if somebody does live in Kentucky or if they've moved.
So there's multiple breakdowns here and we listed many, many ways.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
There are many ways to fix this.

Speaker 7 (43:02):
The good news is it is all a fixable problem
going forward.

Speaker 6 (43:05):
This is not rocket science. We can make sure we
know where somebody lives.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
They're also an attorney.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Have you thought about referring this to the AG's office
for under the theory of unjustin Richmond?

Speaker 4 (43:16):
You know?

Speaker 7 (43:16):
And that is a great that's a great question, and
there actually may be a way, and it would take
some work, but there may be a way on the
AG side or for attorneys representing Kentucky that they could
they could make those arguments. It's that's sort of like
their wheelhouse, and I leave it to them to figure out, Okay,
what's the best way to go about doing this. But
I do think there are ways that that theoretically you
could approach doing this.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
So in the future, at least in these states, and
let's face the Kentucky's kind of a small state. I
can't imagine the fraud and abuse by these managed care organisms.
I can't imagine California, Illinois, New York, Florida, and Texas.
I can't imagine what's happening there. When you speak to
your nationwide groups, you know, the auditors all get together

(43:58):
as fifty odders. Did you get together and talk it's
an example of massive fraud? Or is this unique to Kentucky.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
This is not unique Kentucky. I think this is happening
in every state. And unfortunately, this is one of those
instances where it isn't even fraud.

Speaker 7 (44:12):
It's just like massive neglect in your oversight. This is
basic functioning of being a good government. You know, you
have to make sure you're keeping an eye on things
like this.

Speaker 6 (44:21):
So this is one of those instances where people being
really sneaky, you know, tricking the government.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
No, this is just a breakdown on your controls and
your review process. So so absolutely, this is something that
I think every state needs to be reviewing. I think
it's happening in every state, and I have had conversations
even just recently with auditors, admittedly mostly from red states,
but I've had conversation with auditors who also share concern
when it comes to medicaid.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
So in Kentucky. We want to do more work on Medicaid.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
This is what we found just on this one discrete issue,
and we believe that it's high time to review everything
we can when it comes to Medicaid. And I know
there are other auditors who are also doing the same
thing and feel the same way.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
With the government shut down, this is even more important
to have money available for those in need. And lastly,
I've seen other stories of medical care facilities. Governor Mike
DeWine when it was the age, had all these doctors
clinics handing out scripts prescriptions to people to keep them
hooked on drugs, on scrupulous doctors that was discovered. If
you're in this business and you've got hundreds of billions

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of dollars flowing around, how big of a problem in Kentucky, Ohio,
Indiana is the fact that someone scrupulous doctors can set
up a pill mill for individuals to hand out synthetic
heroin and then build medicaid for the cost.

Speaker 7 (45:36):
Oh, that's absolutely a problem. You know, I'm from eastern Kentucky,
so I'm nine generation from the mountains of eastern Kentucky
and we've had a problem with with pill doctors, and
a variety of other issues for coming on generations now,
I mean like twenty five years.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
Maybe more so.

Speaker 7 (45:51):
It is absolutely a problem, and it's the kind of
thing that I do think ages need to take seriously,
and I think many of them are taking it seriously.
And again, it just undersco if you have lots of money.
Anytime you have lots of money going in and out,
it creates.

Speaker 6 (46:05):
Incentives for bad behavior.

Speaker 7 (46:07):
It creates incentives for money to be misspent, even if
it's just like the instance here it's just an oversight problem,
it's neglect. You have a massive responsibility when you're talking
about lots of money to really keep a.

Speaker 6 (46:19):
Close eye on it.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
All right, thanks for coming on, and we can get
better care for the poor and disabled at a less
expense if government was on the ball, shall I say,
Alison ball on the ball to find out why this
stuff's going on. You've only been in this office a
couple of years, and if you keep doing this, the
taxpayers of Kentucky and other states are going to get

(46:40):
better services for less money without increasing taxes. And Alison Bald,
do you have any questions from any questions for me
about sports, politics, world capitals something I can help you with.
Are you confused about something that I can assist you
in answering? You have a question for me? I've been
firing questions at you for the past twelve minutes. You
have any questions for me?

Speaker 6 (47:01):
Oh, what a great question. What's gonna happen in the
Ohio's governor's race?

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Well, you know, Viveke Ramaswami right now is perceived as
the next governor. But there was such a revolution at
the ballot box that many people misread the results because
the Trump voter Republicans did not come out in large
areas anywhere. And so there's a sense the Democratic Party
now in Ohio was energized because their number one candidate

(47:26):
right now is Amy Acton, who was the queen of
the COVID vaccine, and she is little money, but Ake
Ramaswami is a billionaire. Ohio continues to be a rather
red state, maybe as red as Kentucky, and that we've
now just changed the legislature did for the congressional maps.
I think it went from ten to five to twelve
to three. I think what does Kentucky have if I'm

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corrects seven Congressman one's a Democrat they may get together
to change that because the Democrats have been jerrymandering these
things for years without impact, without effect, and no media coverage.
You have the six states in the New England that
have zero I said, zero US congressman who are Republicans.
Even though the Republicans get forty percent of the vote,

(48:08):
media has no problem with that at all. But when
Republicans start acting like Democrats politically, and then the media cares.
And so I would think vivike Ramaswami. I like him
because I can say his name easily, and he also
is from Cincinnati, went to Santax High School. So I
think very likely the Democrats won't have an opponent that's viable,
and vivek Rama Swami will be the next one. Now,
what about Kentucky. Who'll be the next governor in Kentucky

(48:30):
after Andy Basheer? What about that one? What about you,
Allison Ball?

Speaker 3 (48:34):
What about you?

Speaker 6 (48:36):
Thank you very much. It's going to be a Republican
for sure.

Speaker 7 (48:38):
I really believe very strongly that we are we are
a red state and that our current governor's just anomaly.
So yeah, I think we're going to take that governor's
seat back and we'll see who all gets in the field.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
You didn't answer my question, are you a candidate for
governor and twenty seven in Kentucky.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
Oh that's a great.

Speaker 7 (48:56):
Question, Bill, Well, thank you, thank you for the honor
of the ask. You know, I love what I'm doing
right now. I love being the state auditor.

Speaker 6 (49:02):
It is great, great, great work, and it is.

Speaker 7 (49:05):
It's so meaningful because I really do get to do
something that I care about, and that's protecting it's waste
fraud abuse.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
So for the time being, I think I love what
I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Didn't answer my question.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
That was a good dodge, But nonetheless, keep doing what
you're doing saving money. My homestate is Kentucky. Is Kentucky.
The first air I breathed was Kentucky air. I suck
it up my mother's breast in Kentucky, and I love Kentucky.
And Alison Ball, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Alison you're a great American and a future governor
of the state of Kentucky.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Alison, thank you.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
Very much, ver much, Thank you, Bill.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
God bless America. Let's continue with more so we'll see
what happens there. It is eight hundred million dollars in
a few cases over the past four years, waste, fraud,
and abuse. It is the tip of the Iceberg. Bill
Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WLW a mayor, I think
you're doing a good job. I think you're a better
mayor than Charlie Lucan ever was well.

Speaker 8 (49:59):
I appreciate that, but once you become a mayor, you
realize all of the contributions made by previous mayors. So
Charlie Lucan actually made a lot of good contributions to
the city. He was at the Helm when we expanded
Convention Center and that has turned into a great deal
for the city of Cincinnati. He was also at the
Helm when the legislation which pushed through to renovate Fountain Square,

(50:21):
and that has really led to the rebirth of the
downtown Central Business district. So he's got some great things
as accomplishments to be proud of.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Do you think you're a better mayor than Luken.

Speaker 8 (50:32):
Well, as I said, I don't compare, because it doesn't
work that way. You have to deal with a set
of issues that you get. Charlie Lucan certainly had a
set of issues to deal with, and I've got a
set of issues to deal with. I don't think they're
necessarily comparable. But as I said, you can point back
to any mayor and see great accomplishments that that mayor
has made.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Hello, Quiet and Skos.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Thing we've had on every mayor since Eugene Roulman except one.
Can you guess that might be scritch your head a
little bit, Roman, Ken Black, Roxy, Bobby Stern, the Lukens,
all the Lucas and let me think now, Cranley and

(51:27):
uh Tom brush him on.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
More than once.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
He came on all the time, Charter rights, everything.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I can't think of the one I can't have on.
He's never accepted any of my invitations. Although under Brad
under Brian leadership, I received the she you know what
a is?

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Yeah, you have to be, but you have to present
that to him this year, right? Or is he the pick? Okay,
I thought he was the pick. Did you get it
from him?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
No?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I got it from Justice Sharon Kennedy, And my role
now is to give it to whoever a f ted puroval.

Speaker 5 (52:11):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I got the sally, which looks like a baseball bat. Well,
what are you going to do, though, well, he's got
to come here.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Brian Redden said the man in charge of the society,
that I had to give it to him. Yeah, I
like to give it to him, but nonetheless I said
it won't be anywhere but here. So if am Ted
Pureval wants the Hibernian Society Chale, he's got to come
here into the sported circle, right here, right here, and
I will give him the Sally will heave.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
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Speaker 5 (52:42):
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Speaker 5 (52:57):
Thank you, rock Sey.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
We also want to thank Ron's Roost Restaurant and Bar,
the world's greatest fried chicken, the King King Ron himself
and his son Ron Junior.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
Both he brought down the brought down the food today.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
And what did I give him thirty eight to fifty
three Race Road at five seven four two two two.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
You gave him a raw T.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Shirt from like circa nineteen ninety three, when at one
time you thought you were an Egyptian god kind of
like the mummy.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Well, let's got a little backstory here segment. Zawa Hawaas
is the curate and he played for the cyclones now
of the Cairo Museum in which all the Egyptian artifacts
are held, right from King Tut the whole dealer. Remember
he came to Cincinnati for the museum center, King Tut.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
It was a song about him. Yeah, so Martin, he
came here. Yeah, King Tut.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
No, no, Zawa Hawaas oh okay, Well is the curator
of the Cairo Museum with all the Egyptian artifacts.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Right.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
He was here for like two days.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
And the leader of the museum, the lovely Elizabeth, said,
would you like to have on Zahwa Haras? I said,
is that the guy I watch on the History channel,
the Egyptian who is discovering all the tombs of the
ancient kings of Egypt. He said, that's him. I said,
what the hell is he doing? While he was doing
a tour? He comes in here and almost falls on

(54:22):
his knees in front of me. I said, get up,
get up, Sawah, what are you doing? He said, you
are the reincarnation of the son God raw. I said,
what if you take the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs of raw
and yes and translate them to modern English.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
It is Willie. I said, you got to be kidding.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
You're on your.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Little faces on hieroglyphics and three five thousand years ago
in Egypt, correct. I said, you got to be kidding me.
He said please, I'm thinking. He said please come home.
I said home. He said, please cut me on a
dig and I want you. I said, well, when I
come home, he said, you may be sucked into the

(55:08):
tomb of one of the great kings of Egypt. I said,
sucked into the tomb? What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
He said, well, you'll be entombed with the great one
of the great kings, like the Mummy, Like the Mummy.
I said, you got to be kid I said, I'm
not sure I want.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
He said, come home, will ye come home home? I said, zawah,
My wife said no. He also said I could be assassinated.
I said, so, I have a choice of being shot
like and worse the dot, or entombed with the ancestors

(55:46):
of raw. He said, well, it would be blasphemy for
you to come to Egypt and say you are a
god because of Islam. So my choices are to be
shot or to be entombed. So we had the tea
shirt's made right.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
One is at Ron's Roost, correct, And the other one
is that Colonel's Creamery in northern Kentucky and Florence.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Patrick, go see it eat ice cream? Patrick Callahan and
you you gave it to me?

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Explain Patrick Callahan and his young lovely wife the Colonel's Creamery.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
He has a pint of ice cream with my face
on it, hot fudge ice cream with the hot fudge,
the bets that you make and I got signature vanilla.
Did you eat not signature vanilla, but signature vanilla?

Speaker 5 (56:35):
How was it delicious? Well?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Go on, I don't know Katie did this video with
me and him?

Speaker 5 (56:43):
Yeah? Where is the video? Do you know? It's out
there in the internet somewhere.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
You can see the pine of ice cream and the
sun God Raw? Because my face you have the T
shirt correct?

Speaker 5 (56:54):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Doesn't that you're you're You're on the front and I'm
on the back. Doesn't it look like the Son God
Raw and my faithful exactly? Look, You're exact presence, exact
remnants of So that's what Zowah said.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
That I would be worshiped in Egypt. Come home? Will
he Come Home?

Speaker 1 (57:16):
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(57:40):
Dolphins are in town. They're a Jesuit school out of Syracuse,
New York.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
I thought they were a brand of maybe cheese. No Lemoyne.
Have you ever heard of Lemoyne College?

Speaker 6 (57:50):
Her?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yes, you have heard, Yes, I've heard of that. Yes,
And they're a Jesuit school where in Syracuse, New York.
The home of Andy Mack, Andy Mack, Dan Hort, Dan Hort,
Dan Horts, and Marvel. He's a living legend. Dan Hord
is a living legend. Red's Update. Eight former Reds players
are appearing on the twenty twenty six modern player ballots
for the Reds Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (58:08):
Who are they.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
One of the candidates include my good friend Homer Bailey.
What about Coco Francisco Cordero, Maybe, Zach Cozart No, Aaron
Harang Orangutang No.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Mike Leak.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
No, Dad Dude, BP, Brandon Phillips, Yes, yes, you love
that guy. Scott Rowland wasn't very good here, played well
for the Cardinals in Phillies Edison Volcez. I think Harang
and Phillips are the two Orangutang. Now fans can vote
at Redsmuseum dot org through November twenty seventh. Winners will

(58:50):
be in The winners will be announced in December.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
They're kind of brushing this off a little bit. Seg man,
I've been declared to be a deity in Egypt.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Well, what do you want me to do? Fly to kite?
Well you can't get anywhere now at an airport. They're
shutting it all down. Of course, the boys are talking
behind closed doors right now as we speak, aren't we.
No one knows what goes on behind closed doors. I
can tell you that the San Diego Padres have named
former University of Dayton grant and Major League pitcher Craig
Stammin as their new manager.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
By the way, the plane crash in Louisville appears to
be goes an engine of the plane fell off there.
It is right there, But the Democrats are blaming who
Trump correct didn't do proper maintenance on the aircraft?

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Ups Willie. Let's see congratulations. Let's see Saint x fell
in the boys state semi finals last night, Kings going
for a state title. Sunday, Wyoming got beatenat Summit Country Day.
He's going for a three peat. What about Madeira as
they won? What about Madeira? That's the girls. I'm talking
about the boys and the other thing.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
I understand that udf It's in negotiation with Tony Bender
to put my face on a pint of hot fudge.
But they must first talk to Colonel's Creamery in Florence.
It was his idea to get a piece of Willy
every day when you have some ice cream.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Also, will he have big news on the hockey front?
Last night Alexandrovitchkin the Washington Capitals reaching another milestone, becoming
the first player and National Hockey League history with nine
hundred goals and his six to one win over Saint Louis.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
And you say that will never be broken. Can you
say that? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
And Blues goalie Jordan Bingaton tried to hide the record
setting puck by.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Putting it in his pants.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Really yeah, But the officials come over and said, give
us the puck. Yeah, give me the puck. Why would
he do that when he knows he's going to be.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
Caught keeping a keep he wanted? I guess probably money.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Ask askin give me the stick or give me a
pet or something. Right, Well, he sat like four goals
and six shots and he was pulled for the game.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Do you think sometimes the goal keepers allow Ovenskin to score?

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
Because well, no, this one last night was his backhand.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Usually he scores on the one timer, just a big
old slap shot, but last night it was a backhander
slap shot.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
It was a good movie. I don't know why to
slap Sean Newman was in it. I liked that one.
Charlestown Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Do you have the one of the t shirts that remained? Yes,
Penny found them. Is signed too. Penny found them in
an old box last night and said, what are these?
I'm throwing these out? I said what, I said, you're
going to do? What to the son god raw? And
she said, you're silly, So I said, I'm taking them
in and I Marcia wanted one. I gave one to you.

(01:01:50):
Tony Pike wanted me to sign one and give it
to him. I said, are you still here? He said yes.
I said, people signed it an Egyptian Hierogarthy Because if
you look at those coins and the face on the
front of this T shirt is the face on the
coins found in the tomb of Raw. They're calling me
Ramseys the third as as Zola said, come home?

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Will he come home? To Cairo and the Valley of
the Kings. Well, you were just over there a few
years ago, right.

Speaker 5 (01:02:22):
Over the top. Remember remember at Newport when I was
let in to but I mean you, you were over
into the But that wasn't Egypt. Well you were close.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
How about me being let in on the platforms of
those fine Nubian slaves somewhere in Newport.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Those are weight lifters from Charlie's Gym down and Bridge
find Nubian slaves. I thought you were going to fall
over into the crowd. People were going nuts. We're doing
another big event somewhere. I'll get on top of that.
Nobody left. I think people are going to come out
and see Scott's colonel. They'll come out and see McConnell. No, no,

(01:03:03):
no more wild man on a billboard. All right, give
me out on the stage report. Willie also want to
say to the Wish Tree program is underway celebrating forty
one years. If you want a tree or help him
out five one three eight five two eighteen ninety five
or the wish Tree Program at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Helm me out of the stage report and show me
a little more respective. I'm a son God, show me
some respect.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Will you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
In honor of you being raw, we leave you with
the immortal words of the Stooge Report.

Speaker 10 (01:03:38):
I'm gonna keep on doing the debt due show, you know,
I say, with the seg man making it happen.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
Let's b miss those days? Will he me too?

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Gone with the wind amen on seven hundred WLW Bill
Cunningham Degreda. What does us congresson do when nothing is
in session? Of course I think when the Congress is
not in session that's a good thing. But nonetheless on

(01:04:08):
a shutdown, I'm joining you and I al as Congress
and Thomas Massey from Northern Kentucky. Congress and Massey welcome
again into Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, congratulations.
I think women are meant to be alone. I think
men are not meant to be alone. In the passing
of your wife, I met her a couple of times,
a darling woman. A man should not be alone. And

(01:04:29):
I want to congratulate you on the marriage recently to
another fine woman, and may you two live long and prosper.

Speaker 11 (01:04:35):
Congratulations. Well, thank you so much, Bill. She's a wonderful woman.
And God did make this earth for man and woman
to be together in marriage. And I'm happy to be
married again. It's an excellent thing. I function a lot
better with a companion and a life partner, and I

(01:04:58):
think that's because my my marriage to my late wife,
who passed away unexpectedly, was such a great marriage that
I would just love to have something like that again.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
And I've got it in Carolyn. She's a great lady.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
You know, you're a relatively young feller. But in my age,
I have noticed the passing of many and women do
well without their men. They have other tribes, they go
to other women. But I've noticed that men almost always
get married. They meet someone or whatever, and they get
married quickly. Because we were born of women. We were

(01:05:36):
raised by women, We marry women, and our final days
will be cared for by women. And if women were
not around Number one, I'm not sure would work biologically.
If women were not around, men were still being trees
throwing spears at each other. And women are the foundation
of every nation. And without women, the life would not
be worth living. And I haven't met Carolyn yet. I'd

(01:05:58):
love to do that, I think. The media says she
worked for Senator r and Paul for a while. Another
one of my faves and congratulations says, get onto the issues.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
Well, one quick thing.

Speaker 11 (01:06:11):
You know, my late wife and I we raised four
wonderful children. And the first thing I did before I
started dating again, because the closest thing that I have
on this planet to my late wife is my children,
and the relationship with them is so important to me.
The first thing I did before I went on the
first date is I went and asked my daughter's permission

(01:06:31):
and they endorsed it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
They said, Dad, you need to date.

Speaker 11 (01:06:36):
You need to find somebody, and mom would want you
to be happy. We talked to her about this scenario
before she passed, and this is what she wanted. And
so some people are saying a year and a half
is too soon. I don't think it is. My kids
don't think it is. There was somebody on the internet
that was worried about my children. By the way, they're

(01:06:59):
all adults and all married. We've got three green kids now.
And my daughter told me yesterday, she said, you know,
if these people are really worried about us, they could
send us some checks.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
I don't think they're worried.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
They want to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
They're the cheap shot artist who live miserable lives, the
keyboard warriors in their basement, who have no friends, no family.
They want to bring other people down to their level
of unhappiness. And I wouldn't pay one bit of attention
to them at all.

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:07:29):
The other thing is people were like, well, how did
he end up dating, engaged in marriage and married so quickly.
It's because, you know, I talked to our pastor once
when we got engaged, and he said, you know, long
engagements are the devil's playground and you should get married
as soon as possible. And having, you know, having been

(01:07:50):
through it before, I wasn't afraid to ask for her
hand in marriage.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
I asked her father first, and it did proceed fairly quickly.

Speaker 11 (01:08:00):
I'm from engagement to marriage, and that's a good thing.
I would encourage young people not to wait around until
they're you know.

Speaker 5 (01:08:08):
Thirty or forty, no, or to date for ten.

Speaker 11 (01:08:11):
Years, you know, before they either get married or move on. Look,
you can figure this out pretty quickly. I think, well,
you know, today's different than it was. And dating, I
don't know if a fifty six fifty year old congressman date,
I don't know what you call it. I'm happy for
you as a person. But young men and young boy,

(01:08:32):
it's scared you put yourself out there. It's can you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Young men don't get married until they're thirty one. Young
women we got to talk about politics, but until they're.

Speaker 5 (01:08:41):
Thirty years old.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
And my when I got married.

Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
Everyone who when.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
You were twenty twenty one years old, whoever you were
dating with, you got married.

Speaker 5 (01:08:50):
And today you don't get married.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
And men are brutalized by the system quite often by
asking a young woman out. You don't dating. Nobody ask
anybody out. You got to get online and all that
kind of crap is not the way God meant it
to be. And man should be with a woman, a
woman should be with a man, and I'm happy for
you as a person.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
On the politics you and I. I mean, young men
are in deep trouble. Young men go to prison, young
men don't have relationships. How about this. Fifty five percent
of young men in the past one year has not
asked a woman on a date. And it's just it's
a scary situation. And girls are looking for boys and
women are looking for men. And to have you two,

(01:09:30):
you and Carolyn hook up and find each other and
get permission of your daughter. That's your kids want nothing
but the best for their dad. And that's what you're.
That's what you're. Your first wife would have won it.

Speaker 11 (01:09:41):
And so it's the most The relationship with my children
is the most important fundamental relationship I have.

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
And uh, you know, because I want grandparent rights. That's
in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Well, it's better to have grandchildren than children. I can,
I can, I can attest to that. Well, when you
hold your first grand child and your it's describe the
first time you met your first grand when you held
your grand baby in your arms, describe that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
Oh, he just melted my heart.

Speaker 11 (01:10:09):
Uh, you know, I went back to having my first
child and it was so wonderful. But I'll tell you what,
he's a little boy, and there's nothing better than when
they get to about two or three years old and
they love their papa and they want to visit their
papa and you can FaceTime. I FaceTime with him yesterday.

(01:10:30):
It's just the best thing. It's like they say, if
I'd known how great grandkids where I would have had
those first Well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
I can't tell how many times Cole and Aver ran
down and said, Mommy and Daddy, I want to go
to Poppy and Ona's house.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
And they said, you were just there last night. I
want to go back.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
I want to see Poppy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
It's like, and you caught that he calls me Papa
Apple because I have apple trees that he likes. To
a right, can we talk about politics on them?

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
So this is more important than politics. Look into my left.
Speaking about the glories of Nancy Pelosi, the greatest Speaker
of the House ever, the Speaker Emeritis, all the things
she's accomplished. You've been there for about the last on
ten twelve years. Can you think of any serious accomplishments

(01:11:20):
of a positive character that Nancy Pelosi has ever done
other than destroy San Francisco.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
Well, she gives good stock tips.

Speaker 11 (01:11:29):
I hear a lot of brokerage firms aren't going to
know where to turn their customers after this. But I
tweeted today, I wish a long and happy retirement to
the congresswoman who called me a dangerous nuisance when I
forced Congress to vote on the two trillion dollar Cares Act.
Into the congresswoman who find me five hundred dollars for

(01:11:51):
not wearing a mask on the floor of the House.
But you know it's it is the end of an error,
I mean era in Congress.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
So you you and I missed her leadership at all. No,
I did one time calculate.

Speaker 11 (01:12:08):
I'm sure this has changed because the overall debt's gone up,
but I one time calculated that she had overseen forty
percent of all the debt incurred in the history of
the United States, because it is the Congress that has
the power of the perse.

Speaker 5 (01:12:22):
I know people like to say, you know, Bill.

Speaker 11 (01:12:24):
Clinton, George Bush, you know Donald Trump, Joe Biden did
this with the deficit. But the reality is Congress is
the one who passes the spending bill, and the Speaker
of the House is the leader of that and at
one time she was responsible for under her leadership as speaker,
Congress racked up forty percent of all the debts since
the beginning of the country. Now I'm sure that's probably

(01:12:46):
down to thirty percent because all the overall debt has
gone up, and we can attribute some of it to
Mike Johnson.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Now sure, and when I look at the you know
the numbers in twenty oh one, so you go from
seventeen to the first term of George Washington, seventeen eighty
eight to two thousand and one, the cumula national debt
was about five trillion dollars. Now it's thirty eight trillion.

(01:13:13):
And that entire time she's been in the Congress, and
the bulk of the time as the speaker, causing the
debt to explode.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
And she's to be complimented.

Speaker 11 (01:13:22):
For that, No, not at all, but it is it
is under her watch, and so that that's one of
the things that should be written in history about her,
I hope.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Secondly, the other issue happening right now, and it's a
serious one, is to shut down Forty airports are on
the list, including CVG where we live in Cincinnati, and
it's gonna ratchet up. Can you tell the American people
how is it possible that the House would pass without

(01:13:55):
your approval? I think the Continuing Resolution the cr which
continue the spending of Joe Biden. The Congress, the Republicans
said let's do that, and the Senate refuses to act.
Can you first of all explain your vote and thirdly
explain what's going on?

Speaker 11 (01:14:13):
Well, the You know, I give the Republicans credit for
holding their ground and not caving to the Democrats.

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
But here's why it's easy for them to hold their ground.

Speaker 11 (01:14:21):
The opening offer was Joe Biden's budget, and so the
Democrats look fairly unreasonable for not approving Joe Biden's budget.
I'm not voting for Joe Biden's budget, and I can
tell you so. The question your listeners probably have is, Okay,
Congressman Massy, how would you get us out of this mess?

Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
What would you vote for?

Speaker 11 (01:14:41):
And I'll tell you what I would vote for and
what I have voted for in the past, and how
we could get out of this mess.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
You march us back to Congress. Mike Johnson should call
us back.

Speaker 11 (01:14:50):
There's no reason for us to be in recess right now,
just because there's a shutdown, we go back. Let's pass
the bill that funds the air traffic controllers. Let's pass
the bill that pays the soldier salaries, and let's pass
the bill that pays for everything at the VA. Let's
do WIC Let's do food stamps. I would cut out
to sugary drinks. This would be a great time to

(01:15:10):
do it. And let's start passing individual bills for the
things that ninety percent of Americans need or want. And
then what you're going to end up with is a shutdown.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Of the EPA.

Speaker 11 (01:15:25):
Maybe you'll end up with a shutdown of the ATF.
And then what we'll realize is we don't really miss
those departments. We could cut them by fifty percent, or
maybe cut them all together and throwing the Department of
Education in there too. Just send all that money back
to the states. Let the states decide how to teach

(01:15:45):
children in the parents and the school boards.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Send the money from the budget of the Department of
Education back to the states, and education will be better off.
What's the state of education since Jimmy Carter signed the
Department of Education bill and has grown exponentially since then.
What's the status of public education? Since the Department of
Education was created. How are we looking?

Speaker 11 (01:16:07):
Well, Well, I don't know how old you are, a bill,
but I feel really bad that you didn't get a
good education, because I'm pretty sure that they tried to
educate you before they had a federal Department of Education. Look,
it came into existence when I was in the fourth grade.

Speaker 5 (01:16:24):
It was I think I was about in the fourth grade.

Speaker 11 (01:16:27):
It would have been nineteen eighty when it came into existence,
because it was it was a re election ploy by
Jimmy Carter who was trying to get the teachers' unions
and whatnot to vote for him.

Speaker 5 (01:16:38):
And we're stuck with it forever.

Speaker 11 (01:16:40):
I've got a bill I introduce every Congress to get
rid of the Department of Education. I don't want to
spend less money on students. I would spend more money
on students. But the problem is the federal Department Education
is only responsible for about a ten percent of the
education funding, but they withhold that with all these requirements
on the states and the school boards, and they've doubled

(01:17:03):
the administrative load just to keep up with all the
federal regulations on education. They they don't write textbooks, they
don't teach classes.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
They don't add to the education of our children.

Speaker 11 (01:17:17):
At the Federal Department of Education, you've got about four
thousand bureaucrats making one hundred thousand dollars a year. They
make more than teachers. They don't teach. Give that money
back to the states. That's what I would do. You're
making too much sense. Getting back to the shutdown. I
am serious about the solution, and this is mandated in
nineteen seventy four Congressional Budget Act. We are supposed to

(01:17:38):
be passing individual bills that would, for instance, pay the
air traffic controllers or pay the military, and let's go back.
Let's pass the ones that we can all agree on.
They would pass with bipartisan majorities. You wouldn't have to
worry about whether you get sixty votes or not. In
the Senate, you get two thirds or eighty percent. I
have even voted for some of these bills in the

(01:18:01):
past when they're fiscally responsible and fund individual things like
the Veterans administration or transportation needs. That's how you get
out of this mess. But here's the dirty little secret
in Washington, d C. They want one big giant bill
when they get through this cr thing. They'll do a
couple of crs and then they're going to want to
do an omnibus. And that's what the lobbyists love because

(01:18:23):
with an omnibus, you can stick your stuff in there.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
And if members of Congress don't.

Speaker 11 (01:18:28):
Vote for the whole big Enchilada, they get blamed for
a shutdown, and they don't want to be blamed for
a shutdown. So the lobbyists know that the people in
DC that want to fund the State Department and USAID,
they know eighty percent of Americans don't want their tax
dollars going overseas, but they got to attach it to
the veterans, to the military pay, and to air traffic

(01:18:51):
controllers in order to get what they want. Let's break
the cycle, pass separate bills and then you won't have
any delays or shortages at CBG.

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
But the Democrats want to want to prove out in
the Senate. They want control over the budget. And they
think they had success on Tuesday when they had this
perceived democratic great success. They think the Republicans are on
the run because Democrats won in New York City, in
New Jersey, Virginia, and California, which I think are Democratic strongholds,
but the media is picturing this is the end of
the Trump era. Did you see this as a repudiation

(01:19:24):
of the ideas of Thomas Massey and Donald Trump?

Speaker 5 (01:19:28):
How did you read the election?

Speaker 11 (01:19:30):
Listen, every election sometimes you can draw general conclusions from it,
but every election's got its own issues and its own candidates.
And I think it's unfair to draw conclusions from a
purple state that leans blue and from a dark blue city.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
You know you're never going to have a.

Speaker 11 (01:19:49):
Republican anymore, probably win New York City, or even a
reasonable Democrat. No, I do think that we need to
get our own house in order in the Republican Party
if we don't want to see the midterms go the
other direction. We need to do things like return country
of origin labeling on beef. We need to do things
like releasing the Epstein files to show that we're serious

(01:20:11):
about going after sex traffickers and having equal protection under
the law for victims. We need to follow through with
the DOGE cuts.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
We need to quit sending the foreign eight overseas.

Speaker 11 (01:20:24):
If we would just do a maybe half a dozen
of these things we promised in our campaigns, we'll be
fine in the midterms and we'll keep the majority. I
don't think you can infer too much from New York
City and the state of Virginia and New Jersey, but
you can look at some of the places where we
have dropped the ball and we can say we can

(01:20:44):
do better, and we better do better or we're going
to see a loss of the majority in the midterms.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Lastly, Congressman Tom Massey Northern Kentucky, you're being targeted by
Donald Trump himself with a week candidate against you, are you?
Are you concerned not having Trump's support in Trump Country?

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Well, what I am.

Speaker 11 (01:21:06):
Trump has an eighty five percent approval rating, and guess what,
I vote with the Republican Party ninety one percent of
the time. I don't think people in Kentucky want a
rubber stamp, even if it is a rubber stamp for
what Trump's doing. I think everybody acknowledges he you know,
he may be wrong nine percent of the time. And
so that's what I represent. An independent voice. I'm not

(01:21:28):
And here's why they're going to spend ten or twenty
million dollars against me. It's because they're trying to scare
the other Republican congressman in Washington, d c into being
rubber stamps.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
It's kind of working. They are scared.

Speaker 11 (01:21:42):
But this is a referendum on whether you can go
up there and vote your conscience and vote for your people,
or whether you just got to go up there and
vote for whatever the White House sends you.

Speaker 5 (01:21:53):
And I think I think we're going to win.

Speaker 11 (01:21:55):
The guy I'm running against, he's been in one race
in his life. He lost his race for state Senate,
and he's going to lose the race for Congress.

Speaker 5 (01:22:03):
I'm not sure what he's going to do after that.
Maybe podcast. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Well, whatever it's worth, you have my supportive. That's worth
a nickel and uh once again, Congressman Tomas ten cents
twice as much as I think. Tom Madison, congratulations on
your recent marriage and may God bless you and God
bless America. Thank you very much, God, thank you, God
bless thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
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Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
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Speaker 5 (01:22:40):
And it's nine hundred goals.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
For Alex Sander. Oh that's dad, good night.

Speaker 12 (01:22:48):
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Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
God.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Say, in Heaven above, if you had your first draft
choice and it was Wayne Gretzky or Ovechkin, you can
pick either one. They're the first draft choice in Heaven
above and one hell of a hockey game.

Speaker 5 (01:23:32):
Who would you pick? And why?

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
I think I'd have to go with the great one?
Will he not the grade eighth, but the great one?
They're taking Gretzky. Yeah, he is many more points scored
than Investi, but not more goals he had. He broke
the record what last year at eight ninety five, Now
he's got nine hundred. Never was playing into he's playing it.

(01:23:55):
I mean he's like forty one or forty something, early
forties and not like Joe Flacco, right, and you know
look what he's doing. Now, say give me some sports.
That was John Walton. Willie was on the Capital's radio network.
John Walton, the former Reds announcer, went on to greater
things there in the National Hockey League, where he's been
with He was a Reds announcer and a PA announcer.

(01:24:18):
Oh that guy. Yeah really he did the Hershey Bears
for years in the American League and now he moved
He's moved up to the Capitals for years. And pretty good,
big John Walton, beIN pretty good. I am into that,
pretty good. And who's gonna win the Stanley Cup? Maybe
a three pete?

Speaker 5 (01:24:33):
What do you said?

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Too early? Too early so you can play. They don't
compete for that for like May or June.

Speaker 9 (01:24:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Uh, sometimes hockey in the summertime. Yeah, give me some
sports and make it fast.

Speaker 5 (01:24:42):
Will he?

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
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Speaker 5 (01:24:54):
H v A c spot, Rocky walking in Wait, wait
a minute, rock at your there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
I forget I'd do this was going every now and
then I have audiations.

Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
What does that mean? Fantasy? I'm from the West side.
What's in fantasy?

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
I okay, I have fantasy, I do too, But how
many times do you have them all the time?

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
That's why I think that Harass is the Egyptologist curator
of the museum. It just completed it after twenty two years.
And the guy introducing the new museum in Cairozawa is
Uh was here.

Speaker 9 (01:25:30):
Okay, I was gone yesterday. Can you explain, like, how
how did we get on this tangent? Explain to us?
How did we get here? On one damn day?

Speaker 5 (01:25:38):
And you're coming back.

Speaker 9 (01:25:39):
You're talking about Raw, the sun God and all this stuff,
like how did you get there?

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
We haven't talked about you know what last night? No,
we're talking about your rap career. Sorry to say that name, but.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
Or j H. Jordan Hudson last night you saw her. Oh,
we're having like twenty five people over Thanksgiving. Big Crouch,
he's down on the first level of our house. Open
up boxes to throw him out or in the throw
out mode. You're in the accumulation mode. I'm in the
throw out mode. Job is up a box filled with

(01:26:10):
T shirts and there I am. The coins of Raw
has a facial resemblance to me from thirty five.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Hundred years ago, naturally. And so the guy who's.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
The expert Egyptian came to Cincinnati about twenty years ago
at least, and Linda Peers at the Elizabeth Pears at
the convention Center said, you want to meet Zahwa Haras.

Speaker 5 (01:26:35):
I said, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
The Egyptologist who participates in the Great Digs and the
Valley of the Kings. I'd love to meet that guy.
He brought him in here and when he walked in
the studio down the hallway, he fell to his knees
and Elizabeth looking at him, I'm looking, I said, Zawah,
what's going on? I said, Raw? You are raw? I said,

(01:26:56):
I'm raw? What do you mean I'm raw? And he
pulled out a pick sure of raw the son God,
and it looked like me. And he said, if you
translate ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics to modern English, it is Willie.

Speaker 9 (01:27:10):
So did they have photography like thirty five hundred years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
I was on a coin and he said, you look
like raw, and he fell to his knees.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
He said, you must come home.

Speaker 9 (01:27:20):
So just like a like if you've done like a
one of those genealogy at.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Yeah, exactly, he said, come home, Willie, come home? I said,
where's home? He said, the Valley of the Kings. Let's
go to the tomb of touton calm. He knew, raw
get together. You might be sucked into the tomb or.

Speaker 9 (01:27:41):
Are they going to shower you with riches a ress?
What's the downside?

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
He said, you might be murdered. I said, well why,
he said, because it's blasphemy. We now have a part
of Egypt that wants to kill people who are not
part of the Islamic faith. So on one hand, you
maybe said I would stay here if we On the
other hand, you might be assassinate like and wars.

Speaker 9 (01:28:00):
How is this fitting in with your strong Catholic faith
in St. Savior and all that it.

Speaker 5 (01:28:04):
Was for Jesus?

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
So it's okay, I'm not sure that two thousand years before,
thank you and segment then got on some carpet deal
and he is one of the peasants that would carry
me into the Valley of the Kings on the platforms?

Speaker 9 (01:28:20):
Are you essentially saying you two are reincarnated from the
great times of Egypt?

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Do you think this is possibly true?

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
But why would why do you want to think about that.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
No, take a few minutes rock to kind of got
that sink in. Go ahead, Willie is a descendant of No.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Well tell him what is a great story. We had
a big presentation, We had Newport syndicate, right and we
and how was I let in?

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
That day?

Speaker 5 (01:28:49):
You were let in?

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
There was like eighteen of these massive human beings, I
guess Ubian slaves Nubians where they where? They found him
in some uh uh you know, workouts center or something.
He's up on this platform in this throne and he's
like he's got robes and jewels and everything. I had
the thing on and the crown thing, and you know,

(01:29:10):
he's doing this and that almost got thrown into the
crowd about ten times because he's like this guy going
from side to side like a like a ship. And uh,
he just gets up there and the place goes crazy.
They think he's.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
I'm raw And the ladies started bending over and praising me,
and they were playing the music from Walk like an
Egyptian Were they throwing themselves out? Yes, of course it
happens all the time. I want to know, do I
have a second life as an Egyptian king?

Speaker 9 (01:29:37):
Or did you have a first life as an Egyptian king.
And now this is like your you've seen the T
shirt life.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Does Raw look something like me?

Speaker 9 (01:29:44):
According to that T shirt? But is there did anybody
like paint like a portrait of Raw back and that
we can really compare this or we're going off of hieroglyphs.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
I'm on a hieroglyphic coins imagine his face and hieroglyphics
of an ancient Egypt. In fact, if they're looking down
and all of a sudden, his mug is right there,
like what you.

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
Go to my head.

Speaker 9 (01:30:07):
You got the magnifying glass, they got like the torch
with the it comes the mummy on. That guy has
a TV show Raw.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
If you want to see it, go to my go
to my ex account and there it is that there's
the T shirt. Plus a local ice cream company has
now the Colonel's Creamery now has Willie's Hot Fudge ice cream.

Speaker 9 (01:30:34):
So rall explain that the how the ice cream and
the Egyptian thing come together?

Speaker 5 (01:30:38):
What's the correlation. He'll figure it out. This is what happened.
Don't worry.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
The guy's name is Patrick Callahan. He has now the
last T shirt that has the picture of Raw and
me together with the segment as a Nubian slave.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
I'm on the I'm on the backside.

Speaker 9 (01:30:56):
Of course, I've heard or I saw.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Would this be something you would be interested in accompanying
me to the Valley of the Kings.

Speaker 9 (01:31:03):
For sheer morbid curiosity? Yes, I will go with you
to the Valley of the Kings.

Speaker 5 (01:31:11):
Don't you have a game over? A game in Cairo.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
It's a short trip for you.

Speaker 9 (01:31:16):
Easy, It's easy. I will go with you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
Don't they're gonna send you to a bowl game at
Abu Dhabi or something. You can kind of stop by it.
You got a T shirt, don't you sign? It's signed
by Raw?

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Can you keep it here? An ancient each I'm taking
it home? Are you crazy? It'll It'll leave here in
a heartbeat.

Speaker 9 (01:31:32):
How do I get a T shirt?

Speaker 2 (01:31:33):
Sensy shirts dot com say give me some sports?

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Speaker 5 (01:32:21):
And Lemoyne College, Lemoyne goes at it at uh.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
Hold on segment we have some music coming Bengals.

Speaker 5 (01:32:32):
The Bengals.

Speaker 9 (01:32:33):
She could be the A N G L E N Bengals,
Bengles bang Cleo Patrick.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
It wouldn't that be something that I thought Penny would
be Cleo Patrick everything.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
I only believe me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Plus hear this, hit it, hit it, hit it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Where's the post? You see what I'm saying? There's a
connection between me and her? So is this gonna? Is
this going to continue on for months? Like the rap thing?

Speaker 5 (01:33:01):
Yes? I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
The ice cream. I got a hold the chip greater
and udf here put some face. Have you seen the
ice cream? Will you show me the picture? What kind
of ice cream? Is it chocolate chip with hot fudge
like that? Well, they get you know, Patrick Callahan is
the production run. He's gonna have to compete with greaters
in udf though from my rights to my face, you're

(01:33:26):
getting a gets Willy, get the get a piece of
the Willie every day, Please continue.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
Willy Reds Update to Eight former Reds are appearing on
the twenty twenty six Modern Modern Player ballot for the
Reds Hall of Fame. They include my Man, Homer Bailey,
No Francisco co Co Cordero, Zach coz Art, No, Aaron
Harang Orangutang, No Mike Leak, Dad Dude, BP Brandon.

Speaker 10 (01:34:01):
Hold Debbie's own deck in the stands because they motivate me,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
He saw some debies in the stands and they motivate me.

Speaker 9 (01:34:09):
Scott, that was the best one. You usually go down
the dog talk with him. Still don't have any idea
what he's saying. Where's VP now?

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
I think the last time I heard he was in
Lexington with the baseball.

Speaker 10 (01:34:20):
Team at that do show, you know, saying with the
seg man making it happen?

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
What are debbies in the stands, you know, Scott mhm,
that's right, that's right, that's right, Sheriff wrestling Champion.

Speaker 9 (01:34:36):
How about this is what's his wife's name, Sheriff Jade Cargo?
Is that dude Bear's wife?

Speaker 5 (01:34:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
You learn something new every day.

Speaker 9 (01:34:45):
You couldn't couldn't make that up.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
I bet against it. I bet against it. You bet
against me being the reincarnation of raw with You bet.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
Against it, or me becoming a rap star. You better
bet against it. I think I was right on that one.
It's safe to say yet I'm not done yet. Oh really,
I'm gonna come back, believe me. It's all in mind,
a second career, comeback. The Bengals and the Big Woman.
Is she the Bengals? Yeah, the Bengals. Not the Bengals.

Speaker 5 (01:35:16):
C A N G L E s E.

Speaker 9 (01:35:18):
Bengals right A Bengals not Bengals.

Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
Not yeah, not Bengals, Bengals.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Why Bengals Bengals?

Speaker 9 (01:35:26):
Ask her?

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
Bengal?

Speaker 9 (01:35:28):
Is that like a brace Bengal?

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:35:31):
She was easy on the eyes too.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
I forget her first, remember her briefly in my dreams,
dat for I did date her in Egypt. But he's
concerned if I come there and I'm blasphemed, I'm going
to be murdered. I said, well, the upside is I'm
in the Valley of the Kings. The downside is is
the juice worth of squeeze? What kind of money we talk?

Speaker 9 (01:35:50):
And so if it's substantially it may be worth the risk?

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
How much it is the Egyptian money worth?

Speaker 5 (01:35:55):
I don't know what is the Egyptian I don't know money.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
We're got to go to Cairo and down the Nile,
the king segment, the Valley of the Kings, and then
to l Alamin. He said that he thinks on the
side on the on the nile, on either side of
the river banks, there will be large numbers of people
with palms, and half of.

Speaker 9 (01:36:12):
Them were like worshiping you than the other half we
were to stone you ak forty seven?

Speaker 1 (01:36:18):
I think what stay away from that size? He said, possibly,
it's a real thing.

Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
I said, well, you know, Doc, I appreciate the but
I want to live a few How did I mean?
Cause you're I mean you would think mostly Irish?

Speaker 5 (01:36:30):
Correct? I think?

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
So?

Speaker 5 (01:36:31):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:36:32):
How did that?

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
How that black folks are named Cunningham. They're all over
the Black community. I'm thinking somehow the Jews and the
Egyptians got together with the Africans and from that they
made their way to Ireland, and then that from Ireland
came the Old County. He got over here in the
eighteen seven. Yeah, sevent a grave robber, and that's where
I came from. So the Egyptian thing is a pound,

(01:36:57):
so it's one equals forty seven. So if he offers
me forty seven thousand, that'd be one thousand you need? Like,
would you two come with me? If I really do yes?

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Will you come? Seg what's on the big show?

Speaker 3 (01:37:11):
Rob?

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
Say?

Speaker 9 (01:37:11):
What else do you have going on? You gotta come.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
We'd be in the desert for weeks digging and my
ancestors tombs, trying to find more of my brothers and
sisters buried in the sands in the Valley of the King.

Speaker 9 (01:37:22):
They're not really looking for like brothers, and they're looking for.

Speaker 5 (01:37:26):
Gold and jewels.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
I'm looking for something deeper than that, Yees.

Speaker 9 (01:37:29):
Connection to your life with old Conny?

Speaker 5 (01:37:33):
What's on this? Quite a lineage?

Speaker 3 (01:37:34):
You have?

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
My friend, what's the big show?

Speaker 5 (01:37:37):
We got a big show?

Speaker 9 (01:37:38):
The financial guy right out of gate talk about we
need a tariffs and the Supreme Court and the politics involved.
I didn't get a chance, you know, yesterday I was
out because I had the Action game last night. Didn't
get a chance to talk to talk much of the election.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
But we don't have time now up against the glock,
I know, maybe maybe tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
New York Times says the story today, Mom Donnie, is
he the future.

Speaker 9 (01:38:03):
I think he's the best thing that ever happened to Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Well if they can't beat him.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
And he got fifty point three percent of the vote,
so about half of New Yorkers don't want him.

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
And that's New York.

Speaker 9 (01:38:13):
But one in five New Yorkers can't speak don't speak
any English language.

Speaker 5 (01:38:18):
Forty percent were never born there.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
So like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
Egyptian, That's what I'm thinking. Those are my people.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Boy, I might support Mom Donnie at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
Oh my god, say get me out of the Stew's report. Gladly, Willie,
and honor of you being Egyptian, we leave you with
the immortal words of the stud report.

Speaker 6 (01:38:42):
Top of his game.

Speaker 13 (01:38:44):
Such a consequential president of the United States, a Mount
Rushmore kind of president of the United States.

Speaker 6 (01:38:51):
Want to know what comes next?

Speaker 9 (01:38:52):
That he belongs up there on Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 5 (01:38:56):
Lincoln and Joe Biden.

Speaker 13 (01:38:59):
But Teddy Roosevelt up there, and he's wonderful. I don't
say take him down, but you can add Biden.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
Joe Biden on Mount Rushmore. She's quitting Ninch, thank god.
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