12-11-25 Bill Cunningham Show

Willie talks with Jackson Trumpy about the state of OTR. Also Aaron Withe breaks down the state of education in the United States. Finally Rhyen Staley discusses how religion influences policy and media naratives.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Bill hunting in the Great American Of course, I get
a hundred, sometimes thousands of emails a day from various sources.
That one stowed out like a sore thumb. When I
hear the name of Trumpy and an email, it perks
me up and I pay attention. So a few days ago,
a young man named Jackson Trumpy sent me an email

(00:28):
about living in OTR and what happens in OTR and
he doesn't get a whole bunch of concern from the
city of Cincinnati because of what's happening in and around
Saint Francis Seraph Ministries on the Republic Street right off
Liberty in the north end of OTR. And as you
know as a listener, I've driven by that area frequently,
and I've pointed out on the air and off the

(00:50):
air that things don't look good there. That is not
kind to have homeless individuals living on the streets, is
not kind. To have people that are hungry in sis
doing things in garbage cans, is not right. To have
the mentally ill living on the streets. And so when
this email was sent to me by a young man,
twenty six year old Jackson Trumpy, I read it and

(01:12):
it goes on to say, I've been a resident of
Northern OTR, north of Finley Market for eight months now.
I chose to move downtown because I believe in the
fun urban atmosphere revitalization happening in OTR. I don't want
to be part of the future. However, I want to
bring a serious and ongoing public safety threat, in public
decency and quality of life to Cincinnatians in general, and

(01:34):
Jackson Trumpy. I can say this welcome for the first
time to the Bill Cunningham Show and Jackson. First of
all me I say that those of us who knew him,
those of us who worked with your grandpa Bob Trumpy,
have his memories with us often because he taught us
so much about radio. And as I said to you
off the air, that when he left this earth a
few months ago, he left a hole in broadcasting, also

(01:58):
a hole in your family. I would ask you, first
of all, what was your relationship with your grandpa Bob Trumpy,
the Great Number eighty four? And how much do you
miss him?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, thanks for having me on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
It's an honor to be here. Yeah, our whole family
misses him a whole lot. We were very close with him.
We lived not far away. He lived in Glendale, Ohio,
so we visited him quite frequently growing up.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
He used to come to all my games.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
He would never miss a sports game for myself or
my sisters. And I really appreciate the kind words that
you and your colleague said on seven hundred.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
We were all listening.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, thank you, Jackson. I spoke to him a few
months before his death. It was about a collateral matter.
And his exterior was hard as Chinese calculus, but inside
you the heart the size of the state of Texas.
And he created sports talk. He did Olympics, he did
the Masters, he did the Major League Baseball, football, basket boxing.
He was a great broadcaster, recognized he's in the NFL.

(03:05):
It got the Peter Roselle Award, for God's sakes, and
I followed him for something like ten to fifteen years
on this radio station. I learned radio more from him
than from anyone else. So whatever success I've had for
the past gosh forty three years, the foundation of that
success was listening and watching your grandpa, Bob Trumpy. Now

(03:27):
let's get onto your column. You talk about the core.
The problem is large daily congregations of persons around Saint Francis. Sarah,
explain why you sent me this and explain what you
have observed.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, well, before I start, I just want to say
that I do think Saint Francis Sarah, mynasteries is doing
a really good deed and helping those who are in
need and cheating hundreds of meals today approximately three point
fifty from what I was been told, to those who
are struggling with homelessness. It helps create a small measure

(04:04):
of stability in some of these people's lives who pretty
much face constant uncertainty. And I don't really think that
this is of fault of Saint Francis, but the whole
issue I think kind of stems around where this is
where their site is located here since living in OTR

(04:27):
and as you said, when you pass this area on
Republic Street, you can look north up Republic Street and
there are anywhere from fifty to one hundred people that
are just in that alley kind of set up. There
is just trash everywhere, and there's been a lot of
crime within this one block area. And I just think

(04:53):
with the amount of growth and economic development that the
city is trying to put in the Northern.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I believe the location of this.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Dude pantry is directly hindering the progress of.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
That So Jackson Trumpet, you'd almost call it a failure
of compassion. And we need drug treatment facilities, we need
alcohol treatment facilities, we need insanity assistance people with mental
health problems. And it's not kind, it's not understanding. It's
not helpful to have people living on the streets, that

(05:31):
have people fornicating on the streets, to have people using
drugs on the streets, to have the negative impact on
residents like you and workers and visitors, and Northern OTR
is directly affected by the location of this homeless and
food kitchen. So your idea is to provide those services,
but not necessarily in an area in which there are

(05:51):
many businesses and people living, correct.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Right, I mean where the site is located in the
heart of revitalization zone that the city and like three
CDC are working to bring back to life. However, the
crime that goes on around this food pantry is uh,

(06:17):
it's it's pretty shocking to say the least. I can
recall at least three homicides this year, the latest being
on August sixth, twenty twenty five, when a woman was
struck in the head by bullet. I went onto the
city's website and I actually looked at the crime that's for.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
This singular block.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Some of the things that I've seen.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
They don't show you all the crimes, but they do
list the Uh, there's been six shootings, three of them
have been fatal. The other three people were hit and
no one, no one died. There's been a total of
thirty five different theft reports and for total offenses reported
within that area is over eighty and that's just within

(07:04):
the singular block of Republic Street and Liberty Street.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
So as you can look up for yourself.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
On the city website, there is a ton of crime
and law enforcement assets being sent there all the time.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
And I would assume Jackson Trumpy that the police have
told me they're told not to interfere when crimes are
being committed because the city doesn't want it to be
in They went the statistics to prove one thing. If
you seen in uniform scout patrol cars, police in uniform
driving by and ignoring this while it's going on.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, I mean, I definitely have.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
I'm sure that they're aware of what's going on down there. Again,
I don't really think it's St. Francis's fault that this
is going on, but I think what they're doing is
really good, and as human beings, we have a moral
responsibility to help those in need and help them get
back on their feet to live a more positive life.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
But I just wanted to bring this.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Kind of whole thing and shed some light on it
because I think myself and a lot of other people
that are living in the area notice kind of what's
going on there on a daily basis, and I know
that people do not feel comfortable walking around that area.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Just because of all the crime.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
There's just widespread trash, people sleeping in doorways, is I mean,
aggressive panhandling, open drug use. If you drive by there
and kind of look down that alley, it's not uncommon
that you'll see someone doing the typical zombie lean where
they're kind of just blumped over like they just did
something and it's not a good look. And for the

(09:04):
whole growth of the city and the whole initiative for
them to get economic growth into Northern OTR, it's just
directly hindering that process. Since I moved in in April.
There have been very nice renovated storefronts all around this area,

(09:24):
and I can't recall any of them being leased like
they are all still vacant. No, a lot of the
apartment buildings are.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
They have a lot of rooms left.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
And I believe that this problem right here is directly
correlated to that.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, your email to met talks about sexual intercourse in
the middle of Republic. Street officers and business owners have
told me that women and men engage in sexual acts
in public on a regular basis. It's simply what occurs.
Shot victims and also open air drug use, aggressive harassment,

(10:05):
widespread litter, and it's been going on for years and years.
I had on a business owner Privy Bar is a
few blocks over and they had seven people shot outside
the Privy Bar in the month of November. But we're
told by the mayor, who by the way, has left
town at this point in others that things are better.

(10:25):
Your email says to me, Jackson Trumpy, you emailed have
to have pureval the city manager, Jean Michelle Kearney, Cca
an Albi Victoria Parks. When you get a hold of
them for this widespread and you talk about crimes being
committed every day, there's dozens and dozens or more crimes
being committed, but they don't go on the on the

(10:47):
on the blotder because no one's arrested. The police just
ignore the crime. Therefore, crime is down by some categories.
But when you contact the city officials as the grandson
of Bob Trumpy, what respond once do you get of any?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean, they basically just acknowledged my concern. They told
me that the ministry is a longstanding, privately owned nonprofit
that's been there since the seventies. It is privately owned
and they cannot legally force the organization to do anything.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
They told me that they would reach.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Out to Paint Transis and address the illegal behavior and
contacts and tell them to contact POLEPS when necessary. They
also told me that my email had been forwarded to
the CPD District one Neighborhood Liaison Sergeant right and once
he got that email, he would respond to me with

(11:43):
information on how they're going to make the situation better
and resolve it. I have not heard anything, which is
kind of why I wanted to reach out.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
To you, because.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
I just think this issue needs to be addressed, and
as a young person living downtown in OTR.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
I feel like.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
We need our voices to be heard as well.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
One might ask why did you agree to move? Why
did you go to OTR, Because I assume you know
ahead of time, before you moved there, about seven months ago,
that what you'd be facing, what was your motivation and
putting yourself in that environment, then complaining about it, what's
your motivation and going there in the first place.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, I have a decent amount of friends that live downtown.
It's a really fun it's a really fun area. You
have all the action there. You have the Bangles, the Reds,
the FCC. There is a lot of development going on downtown.
I also work in Kentucky, so I had to move
somewhere that I could be closer to work. My previous

(12:50):
drive to work was almost an hour there and back
every day. But you can ride the street car to
get anywhere. There's a ton of really good restaurants and
local festivals and street fairs and many other activities to do,
and it's just a fun environment. However, I think that

(13:13):
we have this problem just like all other cities do.
I just think that we need to be better out
of dressing it.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
A friend of mine who works with Saint Francis, Serah
said they used to open the doors of the church
to allow people inside the church itself. The Franciscans run it,
but it got so bad inside the church, those who
run the ministry Saint Francis said, we can't do this anymore.
There was a urination on floors, on pews, there were
sexual acts committed inside the church itself, that there were

(13:45):
drug use inside the church. It got so bad after
months and months and months of putting up with it,
they locked the doors. And while it's true the city
can't control what happens inside of a church. It can
control what happens on Republic, It can't control what happens
on Liberty. That's their direct responsibility. Saint Francis does not
control Republic Street, and they have these activities from fifty

(14:09):
to one hundred people happening daily. Is a city problem
that the county's trying to address. But it's the city
police that are being told don't do anything, because the
cops say, if we start arresting people in and around
Saint Francis, Sarah and OTR, it doesn't do any good
because they arrest them, put them in the jail, they're

(14:31):
released immediately, they don't show up for court. Then a
warrants issued to cape Is for their arrest. Then they're arrested,
sent back to the jail. Then you go to judge
and the judges say, they've been arrested two hundred times.
Nothing we can do. Put them back on the street.
It used to be and the good old days. You
might recall we had Longview State Mental Hospital. In fact,
when I was in the Attorney General's office, i represented

(14:54):
the state to put people with profound mental difficulties or
drug or alcoholic use. In law, you state mental hospital
until they dried out or until they got their lives together.
There was about seven hundred and fifty people a Longview
State Mental Hospital. That's where those persons were in the
nineteen forties, fifties, sixties, and seventies. That's the solution is

(15:14):
still arresting them, the cops will tell you makes no difference.
What difference They go back to Republic Street and keep
using drugs. You've got to put them in an environment
where they can't leave, in which they have to get better,
and if they don't get better, then they don't leave.
Does that make sense to you?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Oh, yeah, I totally agree with what you said. There's
a lot of stuff that I see downtown that you know,
probably people in other cities always see as well, but
when you see it in person through itself, it's pretty
shocking the first time. But yeah, Saint Francis, I know
they can't control the individuals that are outside, even I

(15:59):
know they were on many of their services and they
do a great deed, and I'm not suggesting that we
take that away in any form or kind of like
kick them out, But I just there's too much that
goes on in this area, in the center of this
redevelopment district, and there's a lot that the city is
trying to do, but they're but they're really just hindering

(16:22):
themselves with this site being in the center of Northern
OTR and just having this this constant like fifty to
one hundred plus people roaming around constantly, and you know,
just making some people feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I bet have you thought about Jackson Trumpy? Have you
thought about leaving and saying I can't do it anymore?
Are you willing to stay with it for a little
bit longer?

Speaker 3 (16:52):
No, I'm I'm not considering leaving I'm not to that
point yet, but I mean, who knows, We're all be
in a year, but no, I am not to that
point yet.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
All right, Jackson Trumpy, once again, your father, your grandfather,
is held in high esteem, and may his memory bring
you comfort. And Jackson Trump, I'm glad you got a
hold of me. I'm glad I think your grandpa would
be happy with a kind of grandson that your mom
and dad and he helped develop. And whenever you want
to have further contact with the big One, you get
a hold of me, and I'll do my best to

(17:26):
get the message out. And the adults have got to
take adult responsibilities for these kinds of things. I mean,
maybe not pay criminals eight point two million dollars. Maybe
it's better to use that money to reinstitute a in
house facility that you can't leave until you're better, and
if you don't get better, you can't leave. A few
hundred cannot kill the life of one, hundreds of thousands

(17:47):
of people. Jackson Trumpy, once again, thanks for coming on
the Bill Cunningham Show, and Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Thank you, Jackson, thank you, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
God bless America. Let's continue with more it. The city
will spend eight point two million dollars paying criminal serious money,
but they won't solve the problems that their policies have created.
Bill Cunningham, News Radio seven hundreds WLW. You know, I
think the Trumpster, I mean my good friend and yours,
Bob Trump, he would be very proud of Jackson, and

(18:20):
he took it on. He went there. He sent me
some more information about what happens daily. Let me give
you a little bit of insight. When I speak to captains,
I speak to those in law enforcement, they tell me,
arresting these five hundred to one thousand homeless individuals that
have profound mental issues, drug addiction issues, alcoholism issues, it

(18:41):
is rather ridiculous. He goes to arrest them, put them
in the justice center. You might hold him overnight, go
in front of a judge, and room ay at nine
o'clock the next morning. Whether the released or not doesn't
make any difference to them. They're happy to be in
the justice center. Three squares and a cot not a
bad deal. And and most of the time the judges

(19:01):
don't keep them and they release them. Give him an
O R bond for vagrancy or trespass or drug use
or a prostitution, whatever it is. They give him a
trial date a month or two in advance, and they
don't show up for the trial date, so there's more
warrants out for the arrest. And then the next time
they're picked up on something else, there's a bunch of

(19:21):
Capey says on them. So the judge and roommate says, okay,
Riley London. I represented Riley London for years in the
Public Devendor's office. At one point he had four hundred
arrest So I asked Riley London. At some point, Riley,
how come you keep getting arrested? He says, It's what
I do. If it's cold, I don't want to go
in the shelters because I don't like living there. So

(19:43):
what I do is do something to get arrested. I
go into the justice center until it warms up a
little bit that I come out. I don't show up.
I don't care whether I get arrested or not. So
homelessness is caused by insanity, drug use, alcoholism, and ever
in behavior. In the good old days, by the way,
we had Longview State Mental Hospital, in which case if

(20:05):
you had profound mental difficulties. You were locked away for
a while until you were restored to sanity out of
public site in Roseline and Longview State Mental Hospital had
a family member there named Uncle Bob that I used
to visit as a kid, and I told my mom, Mom,
I don't want to come here anymore. She said, you
have to see uncle Bob. And I said, well, you know,
I was like seven, eight, nine, ten years old. I said, okay,

(20:28):
but then I quit. Go on, and if you weren't,
if you weren't, if you were not restored to sanity
at some point, you were not released. There were some
there for years, So you have to take care of
those individuals. They will not take care of themselves, and
they don't want to go to homeless shelters. This is
a lifestyle that they enjoy and they keep doing it
and it's not going to change. So it won't change

(20:51):
until the system changes, and those in charge of the
system don't want it to change. I've said to vivig Ramaswaming,
we need seven or eight real mental hospitals to individuals
that refuse to get medical care, they refuse to get
a mental assistance, they have profound drug problems that take
them out of society, put them in a clean environment
and keep them there until they're restored to sanity, until

(21:14):
they're restored to sobriety, and if not, they don't get out.
And if they get out and do it again, they
go back to the mental hospital, big fence around it
and keep them there. Either that or it's a failure
of kindness to have them on the city streets. And
Saint Francis Seraph is a prime example. When it gets cold,
they'll find a reason to go into the justice center

(21:35):
or into a homeless shelter temporarily, like over the next
three or four days. They'll be less when the weather's nice,
and it's a lifestyle choice that tears down society by
having them present, committing crimes and engaging in aborant criminal behavior.
Arresting these individuals is worthless. It doesn't make any difference.
The system is not going to send them to a

(21:57):
state penal colony like Mansfield for many years. That's not
going to happen, and so they simply shuffle in and out,
and that's how they live their life until they die,
generally in their fifties or sixties. Every now and then
I look up a Riley London type and say, his
arrest total might be a thousand at this point, and
it doesn't make any difference. If you and I got
arrested five times, ten times, about five hundred times at

(22:22):
some point, it doesn't make any difference. So the cops
hands are tied. The system will not put them in
a mental hospital. They go back to the street, commit
their crimes and then live their life on the street,
and they're taken care of by the criminal justice system
in a sense, but not really. And secondly, this is

(22:42):
for those who think about Somalis in Minnesota. The Health
and Human Services issued a report that in nineteen ninety,
which wasn't exactly the dark Ages, there were no Somalis
living anywhere in the country. Over the past ten years,
the numbers accelerated to about one hundred thousand in Minneapolis. Loan.
It shows that about eighty one percent of Minnesota households

(23:04):
headed by Somali refugees are on either welfare, cash welfare
or SNAP and or Medicaid and or autism relief. Give
you the numbers. Twenty one percent of regular Minnesota's are
in one former welfare and the land of the Somali,
it's eighty one percent, and it gets a little bit worse,

(23:25):
if it can get worse. Eighty nine percent of Somali
headed households with children in Minnesota are on one or
more forms of welfare. Eighty six percent are on medicaid.
So the general number in Minnesota is seventeen percent, but
if you're Somali, it's eighty nine percent. And nearly every
Somali household with children received some former welfare. That number

(23:48):
can be assigh as ninety nine percent. Billions, and that
doesn't count the billions of dollars. And these medicaid clinics
run by Somali's approved by the state of Minnesota, and
the moneys go to l Shabab and Somali. That's the problem.
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Speaker 1 (24:38):
To Bill Cunningham, the Great American. And once again, many
years ago, there was a form called the Freedom Foundation
and the goal of the mission was to fight US
government unions by freeing public employees from the union bondage.

(24:58):
And one of the ancillary problems with this is that
there's about ninety nine percent of the money from these
big time unions always go to Democrats to maintain their
positions of power. And then what occurs is that we
taxpayers fund government employees and then they join unions. The
unions give the money back to the Democrats who keep
the unions more powerful, and that incestuous relationship continues for decades,

(25:21):
if not longer. Also, right to work is an issue
that arises to joining youn On now as the CEO
of the president of this group. Aaron With and Aaron With,
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And you told
me many years ago I was with you on this issue. So,
first of all, what is the mission of Freedom Foundation
And talk about how it relates to the American people.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Yeah, Bill, we want to eliminate the influence of government
unions from politics today. Government unions in America are the
largest funda of the radical left. They spend billions of
dollars each election cycle to elect radical leftist candidates that
go into office agree to raise taxes and pursue the
radical social issues. But the scandal of it is that

(26:01):
this money is coming from teachers and other public employees
all over the country, to the tune of billions of dollars.
Each of them are paying about eleven hundred dollars a
year in union dues, and most of them have no
idea that they could opt out of those unions, stop
paying those union dues, keep that money in their pocket,
and stop it from going to this radical leftist agenda.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Do you have some idea that the scope of the
problem as far as the amount of money contributed to
liberal Democrats and how big I guess they don't contribute
money to Donald Trump. I would assume they don't give
money to Republicans. That you can had to laugh. What's
the scope of the problem. How much money do the
unions fleece out of the pockets of their own employee,

(26:44):
of the employees that we pay for and then give
it to democrats. How big is the problem?

Speaker 6 (26:49):
The Commonwealth Foundation just to a report that estimated around
a billion dollars was given to liberal causes in the
last election cycle. I actually think they're undershooting. I think
it's more like one point six billion dollars. We look
at more of the yeah, more of the local stuff
that goes on, which puts them as the largest contributor
to the left in America. So this is not a

(27:10):
small problem. This is a problem that if you can
solve it puts a level playing field for politicians across
the country.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
You have a great excerpt in nineteen fifty eight, guy
named Cleon Skalsen may not be saying that correctly published
The Naked Communists, in which he laid out forty five
objectives the enemies of freedom and democracy would like to achieve.
And I can reference in the nineteen sixties Paul Harvey
good Day did a great thing about what would happen
if Satan wanted to control the United States, and we're

(27:40):
well down that path. But number seventeen is get control
of the schools, use them as transmission belts for socialism
and current communist propaganda, soften the curricula, get control of teachers.
Associations put the party line in textbooks, talk about the
goal of the radical left is to control the schools, which,
by the way, they have succeeded at Would you great
and tell me what the plan is.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
Yeah, Teachers unions have access like no other government unions
in that they have teachers that have access to our
kids for six seven hours a day, and they're forcing
curriculum on these teachers. They're forcing professional development on these teachers.
That I spoke to a teacher earlier this year who
told me that in order to maintain his license, his
professional development was to read White Fragility and he has

(28:25):
to go back and teach Civics in high school in
New York. So it's not gratifying to their profession. So
what we've done as a solution is we've just created
the Teacher Freedom Alliance. This is a group for like
minded teachers across the country. They want to get back
to pro American education. They want to get back to
traditional education values, teach that capitalism is king and not

(28:49):
what the teachers unions want to teach, which is transgenderism,
critical race theory. I mean, basically, they want to teach
our kids to hate this country, and I think what
we're seeing from the next generation.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Is the byproduct of that.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Aaron with I want to stay with that issue because
when I think about my own schooling, I still have
pleasant memories of Sister Monica Ann. I have pleasant memories
of Jerry Wood and Hank Estes, and when I went
to Xavier in Cincinnati, Ohio, have great memories of Roger
Forton and Roger and also Paul Simon, who is my
history teacher, and also Father Savage. When I went to

(29:25):
law school, I can recall Ron Rait, a professor. I
can recall John Steppler, the dean. I have great memories
of teachers and they I can't recall a circumstance any
of my great teachers I had in the past, all
of whom I have great respect for, who got into politics.
The history was history, political science was about political science.
They never propagandized. But that's not true today because if

(29:49):
you're captured in an environment, it could be Ohio, state
could be UCLA. I know, I think you're in California,
could be Louisiana. The teachers today don't teach the academic discipline.
My product is you have to have a certain left
doing propaganda as part of geometry, as part of geology,
is part of English literature. What happened to the teachers

(30:10):
who are now in their forties, fifties and sixties, the
professors that are not teaching academic disciplines, but part of
that you have to adhere to the left doing ideology.
And that's the problem. Am I correct about that?

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Yeah, that's the problem. That's the problem most teachers that
I know, and I know a lot of teachers. My
wife was a public school teacher up until a couple
of years ago. Teachers get into the profession to teach reading, writing, math,
to prepare kids for the next stage in their academic careers,
or to get into the workforce.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
They do not go into schools to teach this work ideology.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
The problem is, especially in deep blue states like California,
for example, you have the teachers unions that have so
much control over the curriculum, so much control over the
professional development.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
It's basically a monopoly today.

Speaker 6 (30:59):
And that's when you have these teachers that their choice
is either keep their job and teach some of this stuff,
or go and teach at a private school make less money,
or homeschool learning pods if they're available in those states.
So their hands are really tied. So there are a
lot of great teachers in America. Don't get me wrong.
This is not me or the Freedom Foundation saying that

(31:21):
we need to fire all these teachers, because there is
a lot of good teachers out there. The problem is
we need to reform the system to allow those teachers
to teach stuff that actually helps that kids, not the teachers'
unions in their wok ideology.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I'm thinking about Randy Weingarten, who is the head of
the president American Federation of Teachers. She said committed left
wing extremist. And this woman, herror organization is the largest
teachers organization in America. I think about what she did
a few years back with COVID keeping all the schools
shut down as the Catholic school has proceeded, the public

(31:57):
schools in big cities shut down completely. I would anticipate
what are the goals do you think of Randy Winingarten,
President of American Federation of Teachers. Is to educate or
is it the propagandas.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
No, it's all political. She doesn't care for our academic system.
She doesn't care about our education system. She cares about politics.
She cares about pursuing a radical political agenda. And the
other one is her name is Becky Pringle. You hear
less of her. She's the head of the National Education Association,
which is larger than the American Federation of Teachers.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
They're both the same. Their goals are political. When you
look at their day.

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Jobs, they're spending more time with politicians in Congress than
they are with teachers. When you look at their budgets,
for example, both of those teachers' unions have hundreds of
millions of dollars at their disposal. They spend around twelve
percent of their overall budgets unquote representational activities. They spend
a significant portion of it on gifts to politicians, on

(32:59):
donations to five to one C free and C force
that are politically aligned, and then the rest of it
gets spent on internal benefits.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
And that's their numbers.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
So when you say, as a teachers union that twelve
percent of our budget is spent on representational activities, in
my mind, that's them saying that their primary objective is
politics and the representational activities portion.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
That's more of a sideshell.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
You know, peer pressure is awfully important. I see in
your report that the Freedom Foundation has helped more than
fifteen thousand public employees leave the unions, surpassing last year's total.
On track for fifty thousand opt outs. I can imagine
if you're a teacher in the Chicago public schools or
New York or LA and you opt out of being
in the union, what happens to you.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Yeah, so we've helped fifty thousand people leave their unions
this year. We're on We've helped over two hundred and
fifty thousand people leave their unions in the last five years.
It's been the largest decline of union membership in US history.
So the tides are turning. It's becoming more popular to
get out of their unions. Like I said, the largest
decline that we've ever seen. What happens when they leave

(34:06):
a couple of things. One the teachers unions and other
government unions will try and either coerce them, trick them,
or force them into staying in the union. So I
have a team of attorneys that sue unions over this
issue practically every week. We have sixty five active cases
against unions today. Most of them are on this issue

(34:26):
of not being allowed to leave the unions. It's a
constitutional right and the unions should be should should do it.
What does happen on the peer pressure side is we
do have them try and keep these people in the
unions or coerce them. Well, what we were experts in
what we do. We're on the other side of that,
coaching them. And our biggest message is, you know, why

(34:49):
don't you just try leaving opt out for three months,
see see if you miss anything, or see if the
eighty ninety dollars a month that you get back is
a better provide. It's better value to you and your family.
And of course most of the time that's true.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
One of the updates from you is the CEO is
this student riots occur to foment public protest against programs,
organizations which are under left during or communist attack, and
then to infiltrate the press. What's happening on college campus.
It's quieted down here we are in December, but it's
quieted down because of Donald Trump taken away federal funding

(35:27):
from colleges universities. But under Joe Biden, there were massive protests,
shutting down Columbia, marching around the University of Chicago, events
happening in la and so one of the goals is
to use a foe met like revolution, you know something
about the Hamas are about about the mass killings of Palestinians,
And so the student protests are incentivized by unions because

(35:51):
what's the reason the unions care so much about the
Palestinian cause and also the genocide allegedly which is not
taking place by the Jews, but Amas, Why what happens
on college campus is that advanced the left wing agenda.

Speaker 6 (36:06):
They're radicalizing these kids. I mean, it's when you see
kids marching for Gaza. It's shocking to me the lack
of education that these people have. But they've been radicalized
by the teachers union. So in a way I feel
sorry for them that they don't know truth and they
don't know they don't know what they don't know because

(36:28):
they're products of our education system that's completely failed them.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
So in a way I feel sorry for them.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
But this is the goal of the teachers unions, and
unfortunately this is where we are today. We have one
case in seven California where we're representing seven Jewish professors
against their union. Their union has made very anti Semitic statements,
and part of the problem in America is that you
have a union that hates Jewish people, that is forcibly

(36:55):
representing them. So in our instance, these seven professors, they
all opted out of their union. They don't pay union
dues today. However, they are forced to be represented by
the union in grievance disputes and contract negotiations. Could you
imagine if one of these professors had an issue with
their employer and they had to have the union represent them.

(37:16):
I mean, there is no way with a straight face
that the union would represent them fairly.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
So our goal with that lawsuit is to make it
so that.

Speaker 6 (37:24):
Every public employee in America cannot only opt out of
their union and stop paying union dues, which they can today,
but it's also to make it so we undo the
monopoly of exclusive representation in America, allow public employees to
go and represent themselves in agreevance disputes and at the
bargaining table.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Talk about right to work, I mean that's a three
letter word that means a lot. Many states are right
to work. You have the right to work and not
join the union. Many other states have state laws they
say you must join the union to work. What is
the status of the right to work movement?

Speaker 6 (37:56):
So right to work basically means that you either can
opt out of your union entirely and stop paying union dues,
or you can opt out of your union, but you're
still forced to pay a significant portion of those union dues.
So in the government sector, if you are a government
worker in America today, you have right to work protections.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
You can opt out of your union no matter where
you live.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
If you live in New York, if you live in Ohio,
if you live in Montana, you can opt out of
your unions today and stop paying union dues. And I
encourage any listener that is a public employee to go
to opt out today or call my office at Freedom Foundation.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
And we'll walk you through that best.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
However, in the private sector, if you work in like
I said, Ohio or New York, for example, you do
not have right to work protection, So you can opt
out of your union, but you're still mandated to pay
a significant portion of those union dues. In my opinion,
that's a that's an issue that we need to clean up.
It's not something that the Freedom Foundation does. We focus

(38:56):
exclusively on the government sector. There's a great group that
operates out of Virginia called National Right to Work. They
do a great job on This is.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
The percentage of government employees and unions. Say here we
are at the end of twenty twenty five over the
last eight ten years, is that going up or down?

Speaker 6 (39:15):
Are you moderately succeeding or not down? So in the
private sector, it's been going down for decades. In the
government sector, it's been going up until twenty twenty. We've
started to see the largest decline of union membership in
US history since then, and it's going down past the
rate of government growth.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Of course, government will always grow.

Speaker 6 (39:35):
So we've seen around seven hundred thousand total people have
left their unions in the last five years, taking union
membership from seven point seven million to seven million today
of the of the major government unions. And that's despite
government growing by about five hundred thousand people in the
same timeframe.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Kind of the worst places to be educated is in
a blue city and a blue state with large unions.
Can you imagine being a kid in New York City
showing up to school as a six year old and
what you have to confront. It's not about academic discipline.
What is it about If you're a six year old
in Harlem walking into a first grade what are you
going to confront?

Speaker 6 (40:14):
So the Reason Foundation just did a great report that
I enjoyed. It basically showed per student spending in these
cities and the correlation to academic outcomes. And of course
the missing components of that is strong government unions. And
the correlation is this, the more we spend per student,
the stronger the government union, the less these students are

(40:36):
able to perform. So of course you and I know
that instinctually, but it's because these teachers unions are strong
and they are forcing these teachers to teach politics and
not reading, writing and math. I mean, our message is,
let's just get back to basics. Our education system is
failing these kids day by day, and.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
We need to change.

Speaker 6 (40:59):
We need to get so that teachers are empowered to
actually teach real academics and not all this social stuff
that the teachers unions would like them to teach.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
What a novel concept. All right, Aarin with the CEO
of the Freedom Foundation again, what is your website? If
people need more information?

Speaker 4 (41:16):
Freedom Foundation dot com.

Speaker 6 (41:18):
And then if you're a public employee, go to opt
out today dot com.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
If you're a teacher at teacher Freedom alignce dot com.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Aaron with You're a great American, maybe a great brit
but I want you to keep doing what you're doing
because the freedom will set us all free. And once again,
Aaron with thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And Aaron, you're a great American.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Thank you, Amen, thank you Bill.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
God bless America. Let's continue with more. Coming up next
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Speaker 1 (42:03):
Hello, quiet, and I'm spokes I'm broadcasting, said the mayor
is gone again, by the way, and by the way,
where do you go? Ann Arbor? Vancouver's up in ann Armor.
But if you don't pay your note, that's no joke. Correct,
But the mayor is gone. City's about to have turmoil

(42:25):
once again.

Speaker 8 (42:25):
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Speaker 1 (42:32):
I've done my investigation, of course, Miss Hudson is largely Uh,
they've been quieted down. But now we have Sharon Moore,
Kellymore and Page Shiver. She is shivering right now, that's
for sure. And Tom Weedman, Michigan's Finest is hiding under
a bed somewhere the Amazing Blue or not as not

(42:53):
Happy at Non Happy Land according to TMZ. And they're
never wrong, right Uh. Charon's Moore's wife is named Kelly Okay,
they got like four kids yea, and her social media
account is alive with many picts of her with the girlfriend.
Now she's the executive assistant to the head coach. Correct,

(43:15):
Her name is Paige Shiver and she's the executive assistant
to head coach More. He wanted more and he got
more than he could bargain with, so he'll end up
suing somebody. He will serve something her. She'll end to
school for.

Speaker 8 (43:31):
His back pay, and then she'll she'll sue him in
a civil lawsuit, and then she'll sue the school for
getting involved in But apparently her pay went from fifty
seven thousand to ninety thousand dollars over a few months,
and I'm thinking she must be one quite some executive assistant.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
She was doing a good job.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
I bet so.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Right now. This thing he is arrested allegedly went to
her house, that being Paige Shiver the paramore, in order
to discuss certain things. Yeah yeah, I bet, involving a
bladed instrument up to a neck in which he threatened
to slit his own throat, and Michigan's finest head football

(44:16):
coach somehow made his way out of there, was apprehended
about ten miles away, worried about homicide slash suicide. But
the wife and the girlfriend, according to social media, are friends.
This is the unkindest cut of all. Well, then the
wife will sue him. Everybody will sue everybody. Right, get Alfonse,
go Hartstein and get city council there. They'll give them

(44:38):
a eight point two million.

Speaker 8 (44:39):
Dollars, Get Ben Crump, and then the magic man, get
the Merlin Shiver decordy, he's a magic man, man and you.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
But one other racial factor is now according to now
what Oh here we go. As you may know, Sharon
Moore is African American correct thirty nine years old? Right
is what was his crime?

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Man?

Speaker 4 (44:57):
What's his crime?

Speaker 1 (44:59):
How about whole holding a knife up to a woman's throat,
But that's a different matter. Ben his credit. Now he's
in calm down crump. Now he's in protective custody. Kelly
Moore is a white female his wife, and black folks
don't like that. Then he takes up with another blonde,
white female working for him. Her name is Paige Shivers.
His credit holding a knife up to her throats what

(45:22):
I'm telling you. But she's also the daughter of an
NFL scout working for the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 8 (45:30):
Well apparently too, that Michigan knew about this for a while. Yes,
and they they purposely I guess, held off on it.
And after so signing day, that's it. Also, that's a
mess in Ann Arbor man.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
How about Tom Weedman, Michigan's finals can't a search warrant.
He's hiding somewhere. Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about. I think he's
over the walking around into the Dame guy aamlessly right now,
Michigan's in turmoil. And what if what if Michigan would
have beaten Ohio State. Well, Ohio State went a suit
Michigan to get the win back.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
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Speaker 1 (46:09):
Oh, it's nothing about the past, nothing about the futures.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
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Speaker 1 (46:34):
What about Carry Combs, He's now at Michigan, could have
become the interim coach of the Wolverines, Kerry Combs.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Maybe.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
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Speaker 1 (47:26):
Her own more his issues, gave up forty million dollars
for a toss in the hay with one of his
wife's girlfriends. By the way, what responsibility does she have?

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Page?

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Does Page Shivers have any responsibility? You say no, I
say yes, Well, I mean she's I mean they went
at it or ways in one. Let's see Bearcats Willy
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Speaker 1 (48:32):
Hello Way Bengle get married for ten years.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
They have three daughters, Shiloh, Solely and Sadie. And Shiloh
was born in twenty nineteen. Sole joined the family in
twenty twenty two, got three kids. Kelly Moore is the
mother of three children. Sharon Moore, Michigan's finest, has taken
up with a girlfriend of his wife segment your comments

(48:56):
on that, we also want to say, willye on a
greater note, Happy birthday to you.

Speaker 8 (49:02):
Oh, it's a good point. Happy birthday to you. Besides
everything else that's going on in the world. Happy birthday
on December.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
Eleventh, nineteen forty seven, a date that will live an infamy.
And also your number one listener in Indiana has a
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didn't know that.

Speaker 8 (49:20):
Yes, get my best at Patrick is your number one
listener in the state of Indiana.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Who's right? But now missus Moore aka Kelly, Yeah, it
is reassessing the first situation. I bet with a couple
of lawyers and how much she will sue everyone Bengals
in the Ravens.

Speaker 8 (49:38):
Sunday, Willie at Peikhorse Stadium. It's going to be cold
down there.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Windows my whole career and everybody that's and we have
in that locker room, all coaches, we have.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
No things are going to change year to year, but
our windows always open.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
It wasn't open last night. He looked a little unhappy.
Did you see the borough?

Speaker 4 (49:57):
Yes?

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I put that on my ex account about is he
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Is he?

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Speaker 1 (50:19):
According to the New York Post, Michigan Sharon Moore was
acting strange before firing for inappropriate conduct. The walls were
closing in, shall we say, It's been percolating for a
few weeks. There had been an uneasiness in the Michigan staff.
Success sources told me the Sharon Moore had been acting
strangely during the Ohio State game. Did he tank the

(50:43):
Ohio State game? Don't know what the Mixigan access coach
yesterday after his second season. Lots of photos here of
the two women together, the wife and the girlfriend. Shall
we say things appeared to be just different last several weeks.
I'm papared to be a little bit different because it

(51:03):
came to fruition. Yes, God for forgive me. But I
don't know what the Rock's gonna think about that now,
Rocky boy, I don't know about Rock.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
What is he?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Such is involvement? I don't know what games? Yes, I'm
sure he did. He does all our college games. Well,
by the way, Michigan says they're not going to buy
out his contract for twenty million dollars, he won't get
to twenty mili And what are you going to do
with this? Sit there in jail with it. He's going
to be a rain tomorrow. Yeah, sure, the head football

(51:34):
coach of Michigan will be a rain tomorrow. And now
they're saying he wasn't himself doing the Ohio State game?
Did he tank the game to give it to ohivest State?
Plus some speculate that Ryan Day of Ohio State is
going to take the Michigan job. Are you crazy? I'm
just saying you're delusion, saying the people in Columbus are
having a party right now, party time, right, They're probably

(51:55):
all that the Horseshoe, just having a party and and
and drinking beer and having wine and cheese. Charges are
pending Moore and his wife Kelly, her parents have three children.
Well he's up for what assault well, allegedly night to
the throat of the girlfriend and to his own throat, suicide, homicide.

(52:16):
Michigan football say get me out of the student's report, please?
Will he and honor of Amazing Blue?

Speaker 8 (52:22):
Yes, at trouble, A little trouble going on in ann Arbor,
but the black and white jail uniform.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
We leave you with the immortal words of the stood report,
Marilyn Roight singing me Happy Birthday, Samara, I can't good body.

(52:54):
Kennedy was having his time in Maryland. Unbeknownst to Jack,
what about you and Sarah Eleaks? Anything you want to add?

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Nothing?

Speaker 9 (53:03):
You sure?

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (53:05):
On seven hundred WLW by Billy Cunning Integrated American, of course,
what's happening in our colleges and high schools are despicable,
but they are our propaganda centers and not places where
the young Americans are learning the academic disciplines, because there's

(53:28):
politics that's infected every part of public education. As a
young man, I can specifically recall great teachers I had
in high school and in college and in law school.
Their names still percolate throughout my mind, and there was
no politics being discussed. It was simply the academic disciplines
that formed my opinions of the world. And what's happening today,
especially on college campus, is not that case. Ryan Staley

(53:51):
is a father and a longtime coach and educator and
director of research at Defending Education, author the recent piece
in The Blaze detailing how group tied to intifestyle movements
are gaining power in places like Oakland, San Francisco, and
Los Angeles. Now unions often protect the teachers driving this activism.
And Ryan Staley welcome, I think for the first time

(54:11):
to the Bill Cunningham Show. And Ryan, first of all,
describe the scope of the problem we think all know exist,
but many people are focused on other parts of their life.
How big is the problem?

Speaker 4 (54:22):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (54:22):
Bill, thanks for having me you know, it's it's it's not.

Speaker 9 (54:27):
I would say that it's moving in deep blues areas
for sure. I think a lot of the rural and
red areas of this country haven't really seen it.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Full blown yet.

Speaker 9 (54:37):
But it is it is worth that we take the
time to expose this and we call it out for
what it is because some of these individuals, and I
note this in my Blaze piece, are running for state level.

Speaker 4 (54:53):
Positions.

Speaker 9 (54:54):
For example, a gentleman out of San Francisco is running
for the state superintendent of Education. And what makes it
important that we know about this person is because he's
an open member and activist with the Party for Socialism
and Liberation and PSL is known as one of the

(55:14):
core groups behind a lot of these radical protests that
have happened across the country over the last couple of years,
and allegedly is even funded by the CCP. And so
you have these people that are not even not only
just are they in the classrooms teaching children, but they're
infiltrating the teachers' unions at the local level, at the

(55:35):
federal level, and even trying to get themselves into positions
of power at the state level. And if you want
to kind of leave education for just a quick second.
The direction that this is heading that I try to
make a warning of is look at what's happened in
New York City with the mayoral race and now the
Democratic Socialis of America moving into positions of authority inside

(55:59):
of the city administrative structure.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
It's kind of, I won't say it's underway, it's almost
being implemented. I can't think of a major American city
and a blue city and blue state that isn't infiltrated
with the worst kinds of left doing propaganda. And it's
I mean, I love your pieces defending education. Do you
feel like you're you're spitting into the wind that this

(56:24):
thing is so big and so all encompassing and so
present with the teachers unions and the funding that it's
almost insurmountable.

Speaker 9 (56:34):
It really does feel very much like a revolutionary industrial complex.
And I think people, you know, they look at this
and they go, like you said, it's kind of it's
so massive, it feels like it's everything and it's crushing
down on us. But the other the piece of hope
that I give that I think about myself a lot too,
is that you know, They've been at this for well

(56:56):
over one hundred years. You go back to John Dewey
back in the early nineteen hundreds and the communist part
of USA back in the nineteen thirties and so forth.
They've really been working hard this for a long time.
Yet they still don't have complete control of everything. And
you know, there's teachers on the inside that are not
down with this, there are administrators that are not down

(57:17):
with this, and they just need support from the outside
to say it's okay to make a stand. And so
that's what you know, we at Defending Education are trying
to do with what we can do, you know, in
our capacity and so forth. But the other tell is
that the young people are not down with this. And

(57:37):
you can see this with the growth of Turning Point
USA and the work that the late great Charlie Kirk
was doing, and even more so Bill with the how
the young people reacted after the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
because you know, we didn't see we didn't see cities
burned to the ground. We saw visuals and we saw

(57:58):
love and we saw a renewed spirit, spiritual you know,
peace with the young people and even the older people
and so I think there's a yearning for for.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Guidance and and and for people to.

Speaker 9 (58:12):
Know that it's okay to say this stuff is not cool,
this is not good, and we we we do not
want this in our schools, We do not want this
in our culture.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
And Stein's and Ryan Staley, Uh, you brought up a
great point. When the killing of George Floyd took place.
I don't call it a murder, I call it a killing.
Immediately every city in America knew what was coming. Oppor
dunistic street criminals would use that as an occasion to
break into the storefronts, and secondly, the politicians would use

(58:41):
it as an occasion to spend lots of money on
left wing, far left causes. But when someone George Floyd
has spent his life in crime, riddled with drugs, died
of a coroner said, George Floyd died of a of
a heart difficulty, filled it with fentanyl and heroin. And
I'm not defending what the cop did, but he was
trained to do that. Those are different issues. But nonetheless,

(59:03):
no one thought when when when Kirk, Charlie Kirk was
murdered on September the tenth, you better get the National
Guard ready. You better make sure the police force are
being prepositioned somewhere done. That's big volumes about the left
and the right in this country.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
Absolutely.

Speaker 9 (59:21):
You know, you judge a free by the fruit it produces. Right,
And what these radicals and this ideology that they're pushing
through the through the universities. I mean, we had another
report out last week on the University of Minnesota and
this whole whiteness pandemic idea that they were pushing after
twenty twenty, after the George Floyd incident, And so you know, what, what.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Are they fomenting?

Speaker 9 (59:44):
What are they what are they pushing out there into
the minds of our young children. Is they're they're pushing bitterness,
they're pushing resentment, and they're pushing hatred for the system,
like you know, the American system, the Western civilization. And
I really think when you when you zoom way out
on this whole situation, you know, you know these radicals
and what they're trying to do and the curriculums that

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they're trying to push. It really is very much a
battle over the soul of Western culture, and they are
trying to destroy it from within. And we know from
I mean, we're seeing daily news reports of enemies from without.
But I really, I really am far more concerned with
the fact that, you know, these people are rotting the

(01:00:29):
institutions from the inside, and they're using our children to
do it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
I reference a few days ago there was a black
Democratic congressman from the South that referred to America as
the great Satan. That America, that one beacon of hope
and light to the world, is called by liberal Democrats
a great Satan. And he also is a product by
the way of HBCUs and the liberal systems in which

(01:00:56):
you have to come up not celebrating America's great accomplishment,
not celebrating our engineering, not celebrating our freedoms, you come
up calling America the great Satan. And when when I
saw that from a United States lawmaker, I said, you've
got to be kidding me. But doesn't that reflect the
viewpoint of most of the colleges, almost every big city

(01:01:17):
public school system, the mainstream media. The great Satan is America.
And that is not the eyetola. This is the United
States lawmaker.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
Right, And it's it's really disturbing.

Speaker 9 (01:01:30):
I mean, you know, the same people that have benefited
off of the sacrifices of our ancestors, and they're they're
taking that and they're saying, you know, well, this is
actually not a good thing, and this is not you know,
the West and especially America has only been bad and
that's a that's a you know, a lifetime of propaganda

(01:01:52):
that's been pushed on them. Look, Bill, you and I
can agree that America has not been perfect, and we've
done some terrible things in the past, but when you
look when you again, when you zoom out and you
look at the holistic product, the founders knew that this
was an imperfect because we're human beings, right, We're imperfect
beings to begin with, and that's why they said that,
you know, in the pre the Constitution, that we're trying

(01:02:15):
to you know, create a more perfect union, and that
takes time, and it takes it takes a lot of mistakes,
but we correct those mistakes and in the end, America
overall has been a benefit to the world despite the
fact that we make mistakes.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
But that's not how it's presented to the children.

Speaker 9 (01:02:34):
To the children, whether it's you know, children of young
twenties and the universities or children in the K twelve
space they're being inundated with with this ideology that comes back.
I guess to sum up to use the term that
you you expressed, which is it's the Great Satan.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
And so you know, I don't I don't.

Speaker 9 (01:02:55):
I kind of feel for these people, like how do
they get to this point in their life that they
they they view this place as that and because you
have to believe that they must not have any other
experience with o their places.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
No, well, the congressman, I want to put some foot
meat on the bones this Congressman, Hank Johnson of Georgia.
He said, America now is the Great Satan. And when
this happened on Monday, and I'm thinking, my god, isn't
this a big story that America is. No, it wasn't
picked up by the mainstream media at all. In fact,
everything happening in Minnesota right now, with all the looting

(01:03:30):
of the treasury by Somalian gangs and et Satah el Shabab,
that isn't it the national news either, other than on
Fox and Breitbart and The Blaze and a few other places.
It's not even a story. And so the hatred for
this country, which begins early in life continues throughout Have
you noticed recently the last few weeks and months there's

(01:03:50):
been fewer attempts on college campuses to have a gaze
for Palestine and also support of AMAS. Is that because
the administrator want to calm things down because of the
lack of federal money or is that some lights gone
on the heads of those in these college campuses.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
I think it's a combination of things.

Speaker 9 (01:04:10):
I definitely think there there is a concerned effort by
administrators on campuses to tone it down because of the
of the administration, the you know, the Trump administration's threats.
I think that it's become wildly unpopular on the college campuses.
I mean, we we saw pushback in the last year
or so on especially Southeastern Conference schools right where where

(01:04:34):
students were pushing back on these protests because they're sick
and tired of it. You know, they these most most
of these college students, and do I spend time working
on college campuses from Division one down Division three, and
most of those students they want to they want to
go to college, enjoy their experience, get their education, participate
in sports, fraternities, whatever it is, get that experience and

(01:04:54):
move on and really it's a very tiny minority of
very highly active people that are in these encampments, and
the young students are sick and tired of it. And
especially after the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk,
I think there's a heightened awareness that we better, we
better tone these things down, and so I think it's

(01:05:15):
a combination of things, but especially you know, the administrators
and the young people, and they're tired of it. They
want to get on with their lives and they want
to they want to, you know, enjoy their experience there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Charlie Kirk, the only hope I had for the future
for America's youth was groups like Turning Point USA. With
all due respect those of us in talk radio, we
tend to be listened to by thirty, forty, fifteen sixty
year olds. But when you develop a political philosophy in
high school and college, it is critical that those kids
hear something different than what is the mainstream media, what

(01:05:49):
the liberal media wants to tell them, and also what
teachers unioned CD or want to pump in their heads.
Do you have hope, Ryan Staley, do you have hope
at defending education that down the road that when they
when they killed the messenger, that the message itself will continue.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
I do I do.

Speaker 9 (01:06:07):
You know, long before Charlie Kirk in twenty sixteen, I
was teaching at a high school and I could see
there that the young the young males especially, but but
you know, the young females at the time were a
little more agnostic. But the young males were already seeing
the critical race theory and the anti you know, anti white,

(01:06:27):
the whiteness stuff that was filtering in because it was there,
they were already pushing back a little bit. And they
you know, now, those those young people are in their
mid twenties, so they're still in that mid twenties, you know,
Charlie Kirk type of range, and they're even more so
solidified now that they're they're against the stuff because they
understand it. You know, they grew up being hammered in

(01:06:49):
the classroom over it. And that's not just you know,
racial based. I mean, there's kids of all walks of
life that are tired of that stuff because, you know, Bill,
they really do want to be treated based on merit.
You know, sometimes they don't always know what merit is,
but they can feel it, like they just want to
be treated like if I work hard, I'm gonna be

(01:07:10):
rewarded for that. And so I really do have hope
for the young people. I think the message is out.
I I do have some concerns that there are some
other nefarious voices that are trying to co opt Charlie
Kirk's audience, if you will, But I still think the
young people see through it, and they they are hungry.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
They are hungry for for.

Speaker 9 (01:07:35):
Uh spiritual growth and for a growth in that that meritocracy,
that that that that original American founding ideals.

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
And I think that it's it's coming upon us to
continue to.

Speaker 9 (01:07:48):
Reinforce that messaging and and from the policy side, though,
we need to, we need to push our policy makers
to to really work hard at renewing those ideals and
ridding our society of these dei anti racist policies that
have seeped into our institutions and our corporations.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
It's going to be tough. It's going to be a
long haul. I can't think of the date it happened.
But when I went to high school, college, law school,
I have fond memories so often of the teachers, the professors,
their names. We stay in touch with each other. None
of them were political. I was trying to learn real
property and I was trying to learn about the common law.
I took my time with history classes, I did English literature.

(01:08:31):
There was no shall we say politics that infiltrated the courtroom. Well,
I was an attorney general imposing the laws here and there,
and that wasn't about politics. It was about the academic disciplines.
Was there a did it happen ten years ago, twenty
years ago, thirty years ago with the teachers and the
union said enough for this producing informed individuals, let's have

(01:08:54):
marching Marxists. Was there an occasion that something happened unbeknownst
to me where the education says said, we can't imagine
gate A kids anymore. We're gonna have social promotion, which
means you get FS but you still graduate. You can't
read the diploma. But we went marching Marxist coming out
of colleges and law schools. Was there a point that began?

Speaker 9 (01:09:15):
I think part of it was the sixties when those
when the weather underground and the other sixties radicals went
into the you know, into the universities and started hiding
there and then using the universities to advance their their
maoism and and you know, far less radicalism. And then
and then what happened is is that you had in
the late eighties early nineties the adoption of the Palo

(01:09:38):
Fredes work on pedagogy of the oppressed. And that's where
you know, and it still was slow, right Like I
went through my master's program and got my certification in
two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, and I
and in hindsight, Bill, I can see that stuff starting
to seep in with the language, et cetera. Yet it
still was still was a little bit more of the

(01:09:59):
old school mindset. My first principal was fantastic, and she
was old school. I don't even know if she'd be
able to keep her job in today's climate with how
she operated those schools. But then it accelerated. And I
would say in twenty twelve, I was working at a
Catholic high school and we had to sit through a

(01:10:19):
training on our white privilege. So you're talking twenty twelve,
this stuff started to seep into professional development trainings. And
then it really really accelerated in the you know, after
twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, when Trump came into office, and
then obviously it got even worse in twenty twenty, right,
So I guess it'd be a very very brief timeline

(01:10:41):
of how these things accelerated. But then the parent pushed
back at twenty one, right after Zoom, you know, the
we moved the kids to being on Zoom first schooling
and then in Virginia in twenty twenty one when the
parents started to really push back, you know, and so forth.
And I think that kind of made a dent in

(01:11:04):
their progress. But I'm telling you, we can't settle because
these people are knocking to back down.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
No, no, they're going to come out as harder. Well,
Ryan Staley, we have to run. Their website is defending
dot org, defending education. I'll google it. Lots of great
stuff up there. And Ryan Staley give my best all
the folks at the Blaze, and may God bless you
and God bless America. And by the way, have a
merry Christmas and a happy New Year you too, sir.

(01:11:29):
Thank you so much, God bless America. Let's continue with
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Speaker 9 (01:11:48):
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Here's the headline. The headline here it is Bill Belichick
Jordan Hudson get dragged into Sharon Morris Michigan drama. Here
we go. Belichick and Hudson's relationship has been dragged in
front of University of Michigan. I'm going to Cincinnati. No,
he's going on.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Nothing about the tea?

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
What about you know all the answers Number one, Bill
Belichick getting the Michigan job with Jordan Hudson. No, come on,
it'd be great. What about that headline? Look at that?
So I see the headline, But where do they insinuate?
What do they I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:13:12):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
What?

Speaker 7 (01:13:12):
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Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
I can't say the chapel hill. The headline is all
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(01:13:36):
worse has According to my sources, Kelly Moore, the wife
of Sharon Moore, they have three girls together, has a
good friend whose name is Page Shiver, who was the
girlfriend of her husband, possibly pregnant or at one time
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(01:13:58):
you agree?

Speaker 9 (01:13:59):
Yes?

Speaker 8 (01:14:00):
Well, Bill Belichick and Jordan ought to be happy that
they're off the headlines. And and uh coach more.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Trying to get him back in it. I'm getting well
he coached any more games for U n C.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
No, I don't think so. So who's going to be
the next coach of Michigan?

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Ta you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Can? I don't love that fits exactly. He's a great physicality.
I don't think of physicality and toughness because that is
that is sick. What you're going to say Marcus Freeman, No,
he won't got the story right. Harry Combs carry combs.
That would make a lot of sense. How about Rocky Boyman? Well,

(01:14:48):
marcaut If Marcus Freeman leaves Notre Dame to go to Michigan,
I'm throwing my name in the hat sake Notre Dame.
Let's go how about Kirk Signetti. I think that makes
the most sense, so he leave Culture of Toughness host
fifteen million. Of course that's what they owe more anyway,
so you'm also I think that's not going to pay.
My opinion, that would be the perfect choice. Now again

(01:15:09):
he's already you know, but no of these contracts in
his word and I don't want to be here forever. No,
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Siknatty can pay fifteen mill and he's out. According to
my sources, that would fit Michigan John Grove. Now, because
they've had so many negative headlines that you need maybe

(01:15:29):
like an off the rope, like just pure excitement. Let's
go kill Bill Belichick.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
No, not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
That's all they need. Bring Jordan Hudson and the mazeing though.
Could they do Matt Campbell away from Penn State? Who
just signed a Penn State? Why not Penn State's He's
a very stay road coach and no off the field.
Not answering the question, what is the question. Marcus Freeman
leaves Notre Dame. Would you accept the Notre Dame job?
Or maybe Scott Sadderfield? What about that one?

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Uh, that's not gonna happen. You're a power five guy
who's the best coach in college football today.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
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Not a good fit. Give me into the student's report.
I continue to do my research on the connections between
Belichick and Moore.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
I think Margaret Spreem will certainly get a call. Happen
this guy, Brian Kelley, Brian Kelly, Brian Kelly's of all
of them, it's a great guy to be a Tiger.
I'm here with my family. Family, are so excited, family, the.

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Two spot and will Charwon more be charged with felonies
tomorrow or just misdemeanors. He is going to lose everything
because Michigan is going to go after whatever they can
go after. The wife is going to go after wherever
she can go after, and then the girlfriend, if she's pregnant,
is going to go after whatever. He is going to
go play claims from a thirty million dollar contract to

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There are multiple reports today at Elie Da La Cruz
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(01:19:19):
Eddie Fingers.

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He likes this.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
More Night America's truck and Network. Taking up with your
wife's girlfriend who's one of your employees? Is that a
good or a bad thing. Check wife, you should miss
around with someone that she knows, right, got a lot
of pictures of those two together and that both are white.
Well and the girls her dad is as NFL scout.

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What about that? Just sayings everywhere. I'm believing this for
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uh and Todd and Todd. Where is Richard Todd? Where
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the story out of Nigeria. Bodies discovered a suspected organ
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killing them then harvesting their organs. Your comments on this
in Nigeria? Where is that Nigeria? You don't want to
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but if any of them come to America, we'll let
them ride in. Right, I'm on in on welfare. Thought
I saw eighty eight. But yes, and plus all the
other fraud going on. But anyway, we need to talk
about we need them, We need them to uplift their culture.
What does your own more need? He needs white prayer,

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the magic man, Mary, where's Joseph? The Holy Spirit? Holy Mary,
Mother of God? Pray for us sinners?

Speaker 6 (01:21:10):
Now?

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He needs them all? Where's the magic man? Get him out?
Dan Arbor, immediately say give me out of the students.

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What was his crime?

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Will he?

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