12-3-25 Ken Broo in for Willie

The average American fills in for the Great American discussing inviting foreign assets to come to the United states and the repercussions of that policy. Also how get the most out of you brain in life. Finally how we can vet immigrants coming into our country.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
The strange of George thorough Goods electric guitar can only
mean one thing, and that means it will He's out
and I'm in. It's the average American in for the
great American on this Chile Wednesday. Great to have you
with us as always, And I don't say that capriciously,
for without you, what would I be? I would be
one man sitting in a room babbling incoherently to himself.

(00:33):
And why would I have to leave home to do that?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Now?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
There's a lot going on here locally, a lot going
on in the world. Answer me this. How could a
man drive from Washington State all the way across country
to Washington, Washington, d C. And then allegedly shoot two
National guardsmen? And is this not a warning sign, a
red flag deluxe for the federal government. Maybe what happened

(01:01):
in Washington, d C. Is not going to be an
isolated instance. We hear all these stories about all of
these foreign nationals that are in our country, either legally
or illegally, And in this case, this Afghan was in
this country legally. He was brought in under the auspices
of Joe Biden's administration and then turned loose on the

(01:22):
streets of the United States and the highways that led
allegedly from Washington to Washington, d C. How did that happen?
And are the people that helped us in Afghanistan Afghanistan
all those many years, are they truly trustworthy? Regardless of
what we have heard, There was absolutely no vetting Gune,

(01:44):
despite what the national media would have you believe. But
standing by to join us as somebody who is a
former CIA officer, a veteran of the conconventional warfare side
of the United States Special Operations Command, what does that mean?
Means he worked under the cover of darkness. He worked

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under the cover of what was going on militarily in
Afghanistan and worked alongside a lot of the Afghan nationals
that were helping us. But does that help extend past
the time that the United States was over in Afghanistan?
And if so, does it extend peacefully? I speak of
a man by the name of Adam Hartage. He is

(02:27):
the author of the book The Alpha Blueprint, Preparing the
Next Generation for an AI Future. And it's great to
have Adam Hartage back on the show Whether Us again.
At Adam Hartich, how are you on this glorious Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I'm great, can thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Appreciate it, you bet, you bet. Now, by and large,
what the CIA needs from operatives in a country when
they're in there trying to fight a war or win
a war, whatever it may be, compared to what those
particular assets will do when they arrive in another country
like ours, are two different things. You worked alongside a

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lot of these folks that are considered to be quote
unquote wartime surrogates by at large, What was the trustworthiness
of these people you worked alongside?

Speaker 4 (03:13):
You know, I'll give you the my my most honest
answer that I can in the sense that it's all
very much colored by my perception, my perspective when I
was there.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
And I'm not saying it's the caveat.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
I think I just want to actually have.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
A real conversation about this. So you know, at the
time during the war, these guys are literally fighting for
their lives every single day.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
The trustworthiness factor is extremely.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
High because you'll be working alongside them, fighting alongside them sometimes.
And then as well, you're talking about guys who you know,
they they've got you know, they've got just as many
bullets in their gun as you do, you know, and
so to work together, especially in a small unit like that,
at the trustworthy in factor has to be extremely high.

(04:03):
So first off, when we left Afghanistan, there was no
vetting of anything of anyone. I mean, you're talking about
literally palace of cash left on the tarmac.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
You're talking about people.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
Falling off of the wings of the seventeens trying to
you know, trying to ride on top of the wing
all the way home to America.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
I mean, it was an insanely.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Irresponsible way to leave a warzone a country. So that
falls squarely on the Biden administration. And I'm not trying
to get political and just you know, say one administration
over the other. What I'm saying is there was no
excuse that was completely unfrigeable.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
They were seven people on airplanes or anybody, let's go
get out, get out. No, there's no vetting.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
But in truth, exactly there's zero, zero vetting.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
But in truth, not all of these guys that were
used that were our wartime surrogates. We're all on the
up and up. I just saw on the cable shows
here a couple of weeks ago, there was a bronze
star recipient, man by the name of Mark Lucas. He
said Afghan allies were quote unquote untrustworthy and perpetuated a

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barbaric culture of pedophilia and abusing women. He said, you
had to watch these guys twenty four to seven or
they just might attack the Afghan women. That might be
some wartime surrogate.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
So I don't introduce any of that as the character.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yes, So okay, so you had that going on, you
had information with the CIA that you're trying to extract
from these dudes, which I'm guessing you were getting, and
then all of a sudden, here comes the fall of Afghanistan.
Here comes that awful scene at that air base where
those thirteen men and women in service were killed. And

(05:51):
all of a sudden, these people that were running around
the hills of Afghanistan are on a plane going initially
to these pods around the world before being dumped into
America unvetted. And this might be within six to eight
months from them being goat farmers up in the hills
of Afghanistan. So who didn't see a problem with that,
right right?

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Well, so this goes this goes to the deeper problem
of also cultural assimilation. So it would be one thing.
Let's say that in a perfect world, here's what should happen.
So you go over there, you work, You work with
these paramilitary groups or the as surrogates or insurgents or
whatever you want to call them, train them up to

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a high standard.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
And instill some some.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Western values in them, because I mean you won't there's
no exporting democracy place.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Like Afghanistan, you know, but you.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Can instill some sort of non barbaric trustworthy that trustworthiness
standard and everything else, and so you can vet.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Out over time.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Let's say you're working with them for a series of
as a lot of these guys were, then you can
build a real dot, a real personal file, a real okay,
now this guy.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Really is that it.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
He's worked for us for ten.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Years, his wife is very lovely. You know his kids,
we know whose children are?

Speaker 4 (07:14):
All this stuff, right, And then you could sponsor them
through an immigrant feed the program, which we saw some
success out of a rock doing that. And then once
they've gone to all that and they get to the US,
then you put them through a program to assimilate them
to American culture and comes in attritions, I mean literally,
things like you cannot you cannot perform BC reality. You

(07:37):
know in America, you know you cannot take little boys
off the street for.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Hurricane Night on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Like these things are illegal. You cannot do what.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Was hurricane night.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Hurricane night is when they would round up air quotes.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
And this is better if I'm on video.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
But I'll just have to explain. So what they do
is is.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Say they, I mean, the men of a village, of
an Afghan village, will round up the boys who are
around nine or ten years old.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Basically it's before you have hair on your face.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
So children, they'll round them up, put them in dresses,
a makeup on them, and have them dance like little girls.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
And then the rest happens.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
They rape the boys and they go all night, and
it's every Thursday.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
They call it Hurricane Night.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
So but this alleged, and we have to keep using
the word alleged, But this alleged assassin that shot and
killed one particular National guardsman a woman, and then severely
injured another who remains in critical condition. He drives cross
country and pulls this off just before Thanksgiving. And what

(08:54):
I saw it, obviously, I was absolutely appalled and disgusted.
But Secondly, I'm not so prized by this. There are
a lot of people, as you well know, Adam, that
are running around this country. We have no idea who
they are, what they're up to, and what their motives
may be, that have committed this country legally through this
this this plan that we had to relocate Afghans that

(09:19):
were sympathetic to us to the United States and illegally
through the southern border. So I'm just wondering, do you
sense that this is a warning shot or do you
no pun intended? Or do you sense that we're going
to see a lot more of this as the years progress.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
My honest sense of it is that there's more to
the story. It doesn't really I'd like to get deeper
into this guy's personal motivations because I would be surprised,
frankly if it was just one of these truly ideological
things that I'm you know, have my personal jiad to

(10:02):
kill Americans. Usually things like that have a sponsor behind them,
a sponsor meeting that this guy was recruited by some
intelligent source that directed him to go carry out and attack.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
I would I would guess that would be based.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
On my experience, based on the things that I know,
I just it never passes the sniff.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Test me that that like the loan gunman.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
So to speak.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, you know, and this guy was apparently what's some
group called zero unit over in Afghanistan? What is zero unit?
Because I mean that sounds like it was some select
group that could carry out missions and fight and all that.
What is what was it? Was it zero unit? Totally Afghans?
And what what was it?

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (10:50):
So the zero teams or zero unit, there was I
think four or five of them, and it was and
it had zero one, zero two, zero three.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
And it just had to do with their regional.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Designation where they were, whether it.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Was you know, coast or Kandahar or whatever.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
But uh, but yes, they what made them think of
them as kind of like an indigenous Delta force if
you will, trained by by our c i A, trained
by our pier special operations units, and they operated under

(11:28):
very loose authorities, kind of outside the traditional Afghan National Army,
kind of like the kind of like the untouchables, if
you will, and so and so if you think of
like c I A peeramilitary officers or you know, your
your real meat eat and steal Team six guys, your

(11:49):
Delta guys. Uh, it's the same kind of thing, but
with an Afghan.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
Play very very very very highly trained Okay, and the.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
C I A worked let's train best equipment.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Right and wait, worked hand in hand with these guys.
Did how complicit is the c I A Uh? And
with all these people that were that were taken out
of their country that weren't fitted and understand that you
build a dossier on a lot of these guys as
you were working with them. But it seems to me

(12:23):
that maybe the CIA dropped the ball here. Why not
insisting more when these before these these people got into
our country? Did the CIA drop the ball on this?

Speaker 4 (12:34):
I mean I personally, I don't know who is responsible
for that, but I would say most likely the interest
either yeah, at the agency where it's some other bureaucracy,
whether it's state or you know, the presidential administration, the
White House. I mean, I don't know exactly how that
was handled. I mean it seemed like so I was

(12:54):
not I would I had. I was gone out of
the service by the time we fled Afghanistan. Yeah, and
so I was not really super privy to the inside
baseball of what happened or how it was happening.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
But what it seemed to.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Me is that one day we're there and the next
day we just weren't any more. They said, oh, it's
gonna be chaper to leave eighty five billion dollars worth
of stuff behind, but we're just going to flee. And
as I recall too, didn't have something to do with
you know, I mean this was during the time they
were throwing everything at Trump, you know, ninety some indictments

(13:31):
and endless you know, collusion, this and all. As I
recall it, I think it was just more trying to
you know, smear mud on a space type thing.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
It was horrible politics.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
So this plane takes off and there's several planes. It
wasn't one plane.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
His plane takes off, and they just showed people on
these planes. And as I said, they didn't vet them.
And even my Arcis, who was Homeland Security director at
the time, said, yeah, we really didn't talk to everybody
that got on those planes. Uh yeah, there wasn't really
great vetting. And now come to find out there wasn't

(14:13):
much vetting. But what vetting could have taken place, Adam,
because as I said, in Afghanistan, because of just the
way that country is. It's a third world country. You
don't have even birth dates for people, you have birth years.
But after that, how do you vet and who does
the vetting? It's I just think when I hear the
word vetting that, okay, how did you accomplish it? Well,

(14:36):
it didn't seem like they tried very hard, does it?

Speaker 5 (14:39):
Well? No, of course not.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
And I mean it doesn't pass a common sense test either,
because so if you think back to like the fall
of Sidon, you know, as they're as they're lifting the
helicopters off the rooftop with the people clinging to the pylons,
you know, I don't I think I don't think that
they're asking.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Them to Okay, well watch you we just we just
for a second, let's.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Do you your immigration interview, and we'll get your fingerprints
and we'll get your family history.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
There's none of that.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
It's like, oh my gosh, the.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Taliban or you know, the Vietnamese or whatever, pick your war, right,
the VC is at the gates.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
And we got to go, or the Taliban is you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
So of course there's no betting, you know, So for.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Them that maybe they're like, oh, yeah, well, later.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
We did some betting.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
You know, we asked them what their name was, Like, well,
you're talking about a country.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
It doesn't even exist administratively in a lot of places.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
Adam's book is the is called The Alpha Blueprint, Preparing
the Next Generation for an AI Future, and it's out everywhere.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Amazon has it and whatnot. And if you've got kids,
you're right, where do you find truth? Because there's a
lot passing for truth that is not truth. Adam good
insight as to what may have transpired with the shooting
and its roots, and you stay well, and you know,
we'll talk down the road. Thanks absolutely, you, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Well.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah. Vetting is an interesting term, just acknowledging somebody is
not vetting. Just shoving them onto an airplane is not vetting.
Just greeting him at the border as they cross illegally
into the country is not vetting. And there's been a
decided lack of it over the last five years. And
here we go, this is what happened. Is it an

(16:23):
isolated instance? I don't know. I hope the hell it is.
I hope there's nothing else like it. Oh, we got
a lot of people running around this country. That just
got in here in the last five years. And apparently
this guy allegedly thought he was going to change the tide.
For whatever tide he wanted to change, there's a whole

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lot of it. And anybody that thinks there isn't or
tells you there isn't, they're going in an opposite direction
of reality. It's twelve twenty five. It's the average American
and for the great American on this Wednesday, and glad
that you're along with us, because without you, what are
we doing here in the first place. Seven hundred wt
WELW ten, one hundred w lw all one time one Sandy.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
It's the most wonderful time.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
No, we have not gone all Christmas music, Calm down.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
Kids, jing little belling, and everyone telling you be of
good cheese.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
It's playing this because had he been alive, Andy Williams
would have turned ninety eight years old today. Of course,
he died back in twenty twelve. But Williams was born
in Iowa, but the family quickly moved to Cincinnati, settled
in Shivy, Itto, And if historians are true, one of

(17:46):
the first places Andy Wiodiams sang publicly was right here
on this radio station, seven hundred w welw all those
many years ago and moved to LA and of course
found great fame in television back in the sixties and seventies.
But ninety eight years ago today, Howard Andrew Williams came

(18:07):
upon this earth. I love to get an air check
of him singing on w welwa. Maybe Matt Reese, the
station historian, can get cracking on that one. Would they
have had tape back then? Did Bing Crosby event tape
back then? Welcome back seven hundred w welwim ken Brew.

(18:27):
A couple of things to get to on the program today.
Number one, Obamacare. It is going to be a major
issue again in early January because again we are eyeing
a government shut down possibly in January. But it's also
an election year that's coming up, and invariably, you know
what happens in election years, the party that's out of
power just hammers the party in power, and the number

(18:48):
one point on the hammer will be healthcare. The Dams
have already been whistling that tune. That's what led to
the shutdown. When the Democrats shut the government down back
in the fall, it was all was all about health care.
They wanted to extend the extra credits, the extra benefits
that the Biden administration put in place during the pandemic

(19:09):
for Obamacare. They were only meant to be temporary, weren't
meant to be permanent. But that's what the Dems want.
And Obamacare, which is really from a financial point of view,
was never really on firm legs, will eventually implode, and
so there's got to be a better way to ensure

(19:29):
those who don't have health insurance. Well what is that.
We're going to talk to a guy that knows the
healthcare industry inside out, coming up at two o'clock. At
one o'clock, we had an election last night out in
Tennessee where the Democrat was someone who openly, it would seem, hated.

Speaker 6 (19:51):
The people of the state she wanted to represent. She
didn't like country music, she didn't like the police, she
didn't like this, she didn't like that. He was soundly
beaten by the Republican. Now there's a lot of narrative
out there.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, Donald Trump, you know, you know, he won that
county by twenty two percent. What's Donald Trump? Which is
the conundrum for Republicans any election that Donald Trump is
not involved in for some reason, and you would have
to ask these people why for some reason Republicans don't
show up at the polling places, particularly and off your elections.

(20:27):
Well they did for a special election last night, and
the Republican soundly beat the Democrat. But there's a new
Gallup survey that's out that shows that we all, you
meet everyone else, regardless of what we feel from a
political standpoint, we all embrace democracy. And now, according to
this survey, eighty percent reject political violence, which would fly

(20:51):
in the face of several surveys and Gallup polls and
whatnot that were taken within this last year that chose
at the younger end of the demographic seems to have
no problem with violence.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
If it leads to political change. We'll get into that
at one o'clock.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
We of course, Andy Williams, you know, little holiday spirit
should be in all of us. Thanksgiving is in the past,
and now it continues on in robust fashion with holidays
like New Year's Eve, and holidays like Christmas and han
again everything else. And sometimes it's the giving powers, the
power of gratitude that can maybe save you and change

(21:29):
your brain a little bit and possibly change your life.
There are scientific surveys that are out there that will
say doing good things for other people makes you feel
better about yourself. But sometimes people just don't feel better
about themselves and they have to have something to look
forward to. You and I have a lot to look
forward to. Not everybody does. So there's a neuropsychiatrist, and

(21:50):
I have no idea what that means, but I'm going
to try and find out here in a minute. A
neuropsychiatrist by the name of doctor Jeffrey Disarbo. He specializes
in how achievement and gratitude can help grow your brain,
make you smarter, make you happier, make everything else neurologically better.
And he said, all we have to do is just
one step at a time, a little something for someone else,

(22:11):
little something for me, and all of a sudden, now
the road seems a little less bumpy and the future
seems a little brighter. At least that's what he would
have you believe. I'm kind of hooked on this neuropsychiatrist thing,
but nevertheless, let's bring into the conversation about all of
this during this time of the year. The aforementioned doctor
Jeffrey Disarbo, how are you on this glorious Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I'm doing pretty well. I can't complain.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I would guess you're not someone who worries much about
the termination of life. I would guess you're somebody that
lives every day to its fullest, because that seems to
be what you preach. Am I right or wrong about that?

Speaker 8 (22:52):
I would say in my case, that's absolutely true. But
I had a great teacher from that, which was my father.
I always say he taught me both how to live
and he taught me how to die as well.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
And part of the.

Speaker 8 (23:04):
Key to not fearing the end of it all is
to make the most of it while you're here. And
that's why I always say the book, which is The
Neuroscience of a bucket List, is really I feel he
kind of co wrote that with me in Spirits.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Why are so many people in this world today having
trouble living in the moment? Because it sounds like you
live in the moment. It sounds like you wake up
in the morning and you experience a new day. A
lot of people don't do that.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
They worry about jobs and family, They worry about whether
or not they have enough money to make it through
the week.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Let alone through the rest of their life. Life chemes
at you pretty hard, and I think there are a
lot of people that probably don't have the same outlook
as you do. Would you agree with that?

Speaker 8 (23:49):
Well, I'm not perfect, you know, I do have some
of the worries that most people have. It's just that
I've always felt living with a bucketless style of mentality
and approach is counterbalance to it because we're really being
fed through through media and social media, you know, always
to be on edge, to be looking out for what
comes next, making people feel like they're not in charge

(24:12):
of their own life, their own future, especially the younger
generations now more than ever with anxiety. But a bucket
list really gives somebody the ability to kind of take
control of a lot of different things. They have control
and decision power over in their lives by making plans
that they want to do.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
When people hear bucket list, they think, well, I want
to do this before I kick the bucket, which is
literally what it means. But it doesn't always involve things
that are you have to commit a lot of money too.
It's not always that Alaskan cruise, although that would be nice.
I mean, you can find bucket lists, things to do
on an everyday basis. In some of them probably not
too far from your back door, right right about that?

Speaker 8 (24:53):
Oh absolutely, just even within your house or sometimes you know,
like you said, you can go camping or tempting in
your back yard. And that conception that had something to
do before you die or once in a lifetime, things
like world travel or skydiving or get that corvette.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
It's not just about that.

Speaker 8 (25:12):
A lot of that comes from the movie The bucket
List that came out and it kind of got stereotyped
to me and that, but it's really about defining what
you want to do that makes you happy, and it's
small things in life, visiting a new farmers market, taking
a different route to work, seeing things that are in
your own backyard, and Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's a lot of great things like that.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
No, absolutely, there's no question about that. And I do
think that a lot of times people though, stop doing that.
They don't live in the moment. They live for the
other things that we talked about just a while ago.
So if somebody is like that and we're thinking, oh
my gosh, a bucket list, you know, I got to
worry about paying tuition for my kid next month. Now,

(25:54):
what would you.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
Tell them, Well, it's stopped starting small. It's like I said,
you can start just thinking about what's in your neighborhood.
It's one thing about AI right now. You can go
on to a open AI chat GBT and say, what's
in my town that I may not be aware of
that is kind of bucket lists worthy. And you start

(26:15):
getting ideas and most people find out, Yeah, I've never
been to these places. I haven't taken pictures here, I
haven't gone to these restaurants.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
You know.

Speaker 8 (26:24):
So there's that's that's how a bucket list starts, is
just trying to pick out some things.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
That you enjoy doing.

Speaker 8 (26:30):
And I often say this, there's a hundred there's hundreds
of different categories, not to mention thousands of items that
can go in those categories. That are you know, traveling
the world is great, but it doesn't have to be there,
And it says and bucket listing doesn't have to cost
a lot of money or anything at all.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah, is it too simple to cause? Does it call
something like that reason for living?

Speaker 1 (26:55):
No?

Speaker 8 (26:55):
I think that's one of the things that a bucket
listen still is reason for living, you know, a lot
of times I'm working with my clients and I'm saying,
you know, we're all here from point A to point B.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's and in between. What are you going to do
with that? You know?

Speaker 8 (27:08):
And again I go back to my father, who you know,
I think he was the first person who told me,
don't fear dying, fear not living.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
And he was you know, I grew.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
Up in a lower middle class neighborhood and he was
a printer for the state. But you know, he's done
amazing things. You know, he has had terminal cancer for
his last seventeen years, and he did more in that
seventeen years than he's done his entire life, and that
most people will ever do so.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
And probably added years to his life. I would guess, oh,
oh yeah, somebody. If somebody's diagnosed with cancer, immediately, you know,
the rain starts just starts pouring on top of them.
And for good reason. I'm not suggesting that, right, it
wouldn't be a good reason, but I think if you
have something to live for, then that may extend your
quality of life. It may not extend your life, it'll

(27:57):
extend the quality of your life. And who knows, well,
you know, I mean, my gosh, you're a neuropsychiatrist.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
What is that?

Speaker 6 (28:03):
I have heard of a psychiatrist? What is a neuropsychiatrist?

Speaker 8 (28:07):
Well, first, I'm a psychiatrist, and you know, I work
with people who have all different types of mental health issues,
whether it's just depression, anxiety. I do a lot of
work with eating disorders and bipolar disorder. But a neuropsychiatrist
is also working with people with cognitive issues that are
related to how the brain works and functions. And that's why, like,

(28:27):
when I was looking into this whole concept of how
I was living with a bucket list and everything, I
want to understand, well, what's the brain do with all
of this? And that's kind of the key difference that
a lot of people are completely unaware of is it's
a workout for the brain. It has this anti aging
quality that's as important as eating the right foods, exercising.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Oh so okay, so that's interest an anti agent quality.
So what else what a bucket list do? From what
you've come to know for the brain? What else would
it do for Because you know, all a firm believers
a layman that if it's not working upstairs, chances are
the rest of what you got isn't working either, and

(29:08):
you won't be long for this earth. So okay, So
what does besides you know, hopefully holding off the anti
aging process. What else?

Speaker 6 (29:17):
What a bucket list or quote unquote something to look
forward do to the brain.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, it's it really starts to work.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
The brain likes when you give it something new, and
I'm always using the word novelty, something different. So whether
it's a new food, a new street, a new coffee,
a new experience, it's the brain starts to release dopamine
and our reward pathways espential, especially you know the ones
that sometimes makes us feel very happy, and dopamine is
the brain's way of saying, do more of that. So

(29:47):
over time, these little bursts strengthens our memory circuits and
it increases what's called neuroplacity neuroplasticity just a fancy way
of saying, you know, your brain rewires itself to stay younger, sharper,
more resilient. So it works on other regions too, because
when people kind of settle in into their comfort zone, you're
not forcing the brain to work out all its potential.

(30:11):
The same way if someone was lifting ten pound weights
and then after a while, they get used to it,
but never push that. They're never going to expand that
muscle and the brain. We need to do the same
thing with is keep working it out and expanding it
and living with a bucket list and novelty is one
of those ways.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah, but you know our culture, you know our society,
people don't really want to leave their comfort zone. They
don't really want to take that step. So my guess
is part of what your practice is all about, and
part of what the neuroscience of a bucket list. Getting
the most from your brain in life your book is
all about, is getting people outside that comfort zone mentally,

(30:48):
certainly physically as well, But I would guess mentally, you know,
start taking on more as you mentioned, more challenges for
your brain and exercise it as you would any other muscle.

Speaker 8 (30:59):
Yeah, I mean, the rain does like to settle into
this comfort zone. It's very cozy, but it kind of
prevents future growth. And when everything is predictable, the brain
gets lazy. Neuropathways they kind of like become these old
ruts in the dirt road. They're deep, they're familiar, they're rigid,
and the rewards circuits quiet down. So that's when people

(31:20):
start feeling stuck or anxious or bored. It's not because
life is bad, but because nothing is stretching the brain anymore.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Doctor Jeffrey Disarbo is our guest. He is the bucket
list Doctor. You can find him at bucket listdoctor dot com.
So when someone goes to bucket listdoctor dot com, what
do they get.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Well, it's a site that I've recently revamped.

Speaker 8 (31:43):
It has information, of course, about who I am and everything,
but I have information about the brain as it relates
to bucket lists, planning, goal setting. I've been writing more
and more blogs.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I think the.

Speaker 8 (31:54):
Last one I had was how therapy itself can be
a bucket list item.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
How I wrote an.

Speaker 8 (32:01):
Article on Helen, Heaven and Hell on Earth, eight places
that are almost impossible to go to, but that entirely impossible.
So it really is something to kind of stimulate people
to think about life, how they want to maybe pursue
it differently, how you know, just to think out of
the box in today's world, because, like I said, we're

(32:23):
kind of getting the brain's getting programmed to be a
pretty negative thing if all we do is fall into
that path of you know, listening to what people tell
us how bad it is.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, exactly. I mean you can find you know, do
them and gloom anywhere on any level, on any platform,
right in that. Yeah, the neuroscience of a bucket list
getting the most from your brain and life. Doctor Jeffrey Disarbo,
I think you you might have helped some people today,
and for a doctor, if you'll, hope if you just
help one person today, you've done your job, right.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
That's that's all I set up to do.

Speaker 8 (32:55):
I'll do what I can and same for you, you know,
And you're bringing this to them. I hope they're graceful
and see, Oh what a bucket listing. I heard this
story today.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Let's do this again. And I don't say that capriciously.
I love to talk to you again. Thank you, doctors,
stay well, we need to hear your voice.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Okay, absolutely, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Ken you bet there you find it. Neuropsychiatrists, we found
out what that's all about. Bucket list. Neuroscience of a
bucket list, getting the most from your brain in life.
Who doesn't want to get the most out of life?
If not, what are we doing here? Same question I
asked at the end of the last half hour. What
are we doing here? People often asked that about me.

(33:34):
Twelve fifty five News Radio, seven hundred w WELW.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
All right, one O nine on this Wednesday, one O
nine on this Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Good afternoon. So we brace for more cold weather. We're
bracing for the teens tomorrow. Why do I feel like
that will seem like summer in about a month? Hey,
look at Cincinnati, just wait a while. The weather is
going to change. It's gonna get cold tomorrow, and then
it'll warm up and we'll all get sick because there'll
be the crud in the air. And then before you

(34:09):
know it, it'll be January. Everybody will be shut in
because a huge blizzard is hit. And then February, Oh come,
we'll all get trick. We'll be at on the golf
course in early February, then some more snow, and then
all of a sudden, it's Opening Day, ladies and gentlemen.
That is the next four months in a nutshell. But
that's why we like it. That's why we stay here,
because it's so much fun. I was going through the

(34:34):
internets last night with Bush forty one, and I found
this a gallop kettering survey of more than twenty thousand Americans,
significant number, twenty thousand of US. It shows broad agreement
on the foundational Democrat principles, things like life, liberty, the

(34:55):
pursuit of happiness, things that this country was founded upon,
a lot of the ability for government to stay out
of our lives. So all of that was in this report,
and then I found this that was interesting. Over eighty
percent of you, me, everybody else reject political violence. Now

(35:17):
I'd like to talk to the other twenty percent and
exactly what they're thinking about political violence and why they
think that's a good way to get anything done. But nevertheless,
the overwhelming majority of people are like you and me,
and we believe that compromise in government should be at
the forefront, not digging your heels in, not yelling and

(35:39):
spitting at the other side, but a way to get
the business of running this country done. That's why these nitwits,
and that's all they are, basically, the nitwits in Congress,
the nitwits in the Senate. That's why we send them
to Washington, DC. To get the business of the country done.
Not to appear on cable TV news shows, not to

(35:59):
put out fancy tweets, not to do deep dives into idiotic,
stupid things that have nothing more than politics as their base.
We just want this. And I thought it would be
interesting to get onto this program today somebody who came
to this country legally and came here because he thought
the American dream was the ultimate dream. Anyone could have

(36:24):
the ability to be themselves and do anything they want
to try and make their lives better. And if eighty
percent of us agree that political violence is not good,
and more than a larger number than that believe that
the foundational democratic principles of our country are the things
that we should base all of what we do on.

(36:44):
And I thought there would be no better guests than
a man I had on this show. I want to
say it was about two or three months ago. His
name is Peter Lemage, and he is a political strategist,
an attorney, and he emigrated to this country from a
communist country, Albania, and he got to the United States
and he got here and he wanted to do what

(37:07):
would make this country better and has a very firm
view of what that may be or may not be,
and why that this is still regardless of everything that
you may hear on all of the cable news shows
the hilarity that evolves there. This is still the greatest
country in the world. So it's with great honor and
with a little bit of excitement. As always, we welcome

(37:29):
in the aforementioned Peter homage. How are you on this
glorious Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
I'm doing well. Thank you for having me, sir.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I'm glad you're back with us, because I think we
need to hear your voice. I look at this Gallup
Kettering survey, twenty thousand Americans. That's a fairly large poll,
and it shows that we all agree on something, or
most of us do eight and ten of us do
we agree on the fundamental Democrat principles. Over eighty percent
reject political violence, support compromise in government, and the US

(38:00):
benefits from a mix of race, cultures, and religions. This
is America that I know. I don't know what the
other twenty percent are doing. I can't speak for them,
but this is the America I know and love. So
why is America teetering on so many different issues at
this point in time? Why does this survey say one

(38:21):
thing and we seem to see something completely different in
real life?

Speaker 9 (38:26):
Look, the most important thing to realize here is that
if we disregard the mainstream media, the academia, the politicians
sometimes and elected officials, I don't think that Americans wake
up in the morning disliking each other. I don't think
that Americans wake up in the morning thinking that I'm
going to dislike or hate someone because they look different

(38:48):
from the way I look, or they believe or they
pray in a different way than I do. Americans are
very common sensical people. We like each other, We like ornaborhoods,
we like our schools. We want to have safe neighborhoods.
We want to have lower taxes. We want a government
that functions. We want the government to leave us alone.

(39:09):
And these are the common sensical Americans, regardless of the
small or little differences between us as ordinary folks.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
The problem is the mainstream media.

Speaker 9 (39:20):
There is always trying to drive a wedge between or
amongst people who may look or sound or feel different
from each other. The same thing with the academia. The
same thing sometimes would be elected officials because they benefit
from this. But ordinary posts like you and I and
we're just we have no problems with our neighbors being

(39:40):
there for each other, helping each other getting together, all
of us celebrated as something that is typical American. We
wish each other, you know, merry Christmas, happy things, giving
all these but when it comes to the media, they
tell us, well, no, no, you should say happy Holidays
is not Christmas. We don't pay attention to these differences
that the media emphasiz.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Up on us. And I'm so happy to see this poll.

Speaker 9 (40:02):
I'll be frank with you that it is one of
the rare times that I really felt very comfortable to
see these Americans like you and I coming together and
saying that we don't care. But the differences that all
this are emphasising up on us, they do not exist.
We respect each other's you know, differences, but we respect Americanism.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
And that is this is good news. It is good news.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
It is Peter. It is eighty percent reject political violence.
And yet then in October a poll came out that
was done by PBS News and NPR. Of course, every
time I see PBS, I tend to discount it. It
is a deeply liberal organization. And then NPR gets involved
in it, and it really takes it down the liberal drain.

(40:48):
But what it says there is nearly a third of
Americans thirty three percent now believe political violence may be
necessary to get the country back on track. That's right.
That was on the heels of the Charlie Kirk assassination
in Utah. And I'm just wondering as we look at
these poles, which one should we believe, which are corrupt?

(41:11):
And what is truly going on in our country? Is
it what you and I just talked about, Because how
can you have this gallop pole and then have an
NPR PBS poll that's not even a month and a
half old that says that thirty three percent believe political
violence may be necessary to get the country back on track.
What's going on here?

Speaker 9 (41:31):
Well, I believe that certain poles are conducted with the
intent of shape in the perception of there, the public
perception of there, and PBS is one of them.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
The latter pole should be the ones.

Speaker 9 (41:41):
That I firmly believe we should trust and looking to
more seriously, because, as I said, ordinary Americans like you
and I, they don't care much what PBS said. But Kevin,
you know certain polls indicating that Americans believe in political violence.
I don't think we should even promote that we should
even make that a public news for whatever reason. But

(42:03):
I don't believe they do. I live amongst Americans every
single day. I wasn't born and raised in this country.
I have yet to see anyone any American boar citizens
dislike me, or dislike my family, or threatened me or
going after me and my family because we speak with
an accent, because we were not born here, because we
moved into their neighborhoods. As a matter of fact, I've

(42:25):
seen love, I've seen caring, I've seen admiration. I've seen
people come into our health and assistant and when we
moved into their neighborhoods in Pairfield, Henrickett, they came to
my house with cookies and wine and you name it,
and walks out there well than me and my family there.
And you know, I'm really thankful that generally speaking, most

(42:46):
Americans are the way that they are descrubed in this
letter fall instead of the previous one. So I still
believe that Americans great, that the American people are great.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
They have a big heart.

Speaker 9 (42:58):
They look which is the greatest holidays that we celebrate
over here, whether it's Thanksgiving, Christmas.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
You name it.

Speaker 9 (43:05):
Then you see Americans coming together reading each other saying,
you know, happy Holidays or Merry Christmas, or Happy New
Year or whatever we say.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
And if you look the.

Speaker 9 (43:14):
Smile that you see in their faces. And sometimes, as
I said, we have to turn up the media. I
just say, you know something, disregard what the media saying.
Our neighbors are great, our people are great, Americans are great.
Let's celebrate what brings us together, which is Americanism, which
is our Judea of Christian values, which is Constitution, which
is the founding documents of this country.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I mean, we have so many things in common.

Speaker 9 (43:39):
That we have to celebrate instead of following these falls
that indicate that everything that we stand for separates us.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
That is not true, and I don't believe it. For
a second.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Scallop pole, the one that survey twenty thousand people, it
had something interesting in it. It said over the past
twenty five years, which would be since calendar year two thousand,
since five since since twenty five years. In the last
twenty five years, forty nine percent of the people's surveyed
believe that cultural change in the US has happened too fast,

(44:14):
which means that fifty one percent thinks that it was
just right. So we're kind of split fifty to fifty
there on cultural change. Do you think cultural change has
happened too fast over the course of the last twenty
five years. It would lead me to believe you would,
because close to two thirds of Republicans sixty four percent,

(44:34):
think that cultural change did happen too fast over the
last twenty five years. Has it happened, in your opinion,
too quickly?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
I think it did. And this is one one thing
that I.

Speaker 9 (44:47):
Agree with the full deathok having a cultural change happening
quickly and bringing people to unlistates who may not be compatible.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
With the values that we have here.

Speaker 9 (44:58):
In certain groups are refusing to assimilate and embrace the
values that we have here. They are trying to impose
their values that they bring from their countries upon the
American people. I mean, this is something that we have
to look into, the kind of immigration that we have,
the kind of people that are coming to United States.
But this is not the first time that we have

(45:19):
seen this kind of transition in the United States.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
I mean, if you go way back when the Irish.

Speaker 9 (45:24):
Came to the United States, they pay face challenges with
the Italians game to the United States. They did face
certain challenges, but there were different kinds of breed, if
you will, for lack of better term, that they were
willing to embrace the American values and assimilate into these
values and become good Americans and serve the country, join
the military, join.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
The political right.

Speaker 9 (45:45):
Whatever they did, they became American Americans. Now, we have
certain groups that are coming to United States that they
are being enticed. Our government is enticing them to come
to United States for the benefits that we offer them
instead of Americanism.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
For example, you live in Connecticut right now and.

Speaker 9 (46:01):
You're illegal, you get it with forty thousand dollars a
year for doing nothing. You get free housing, you get
re education. They will get your driver's license, you know.
I mean, it pays to be illegal in the United
States right now, and this is something that we have
to stop. You want to come to United States legally,
there's a process. You follow that process. My family and

(46:22):
I did that. I mean my brothers and I will
remained or were held in a concentration camp or refugee camp.
It was a refugee camp for eleven months to be
processed to come to United States legally and at that time,
you needed a sponsor and you conducted. We were submitted
to background investigation. They wanted to make sure that we

(46:43):
were at criminals or terrorists or whatever it comes they
were using, and they wanted to make sure that we
were coming to United States to be Americans.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
And I'm proud we did that and faifully, batfully waited.
I mean, we had no problems to wait for that
staff period of time.

Speaker 9 (46:58):
Nowadays, people would come to UNIE the States, and the
following day that they come here, they're looking for the
benefits that we shouldn't offered to them.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Say yeah, there are certain concerns that we.

Speaker 9 (47:06):
Should have it, but you know the kind of immigration
that we have, you know, allowed to come.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Here in the past twenty five years or so.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
And this is something else that I found interesting. Americans
who divided evenly about whether or not the government or
themselves should be responsible for making sure that their basic
needs are met. Forty eight percent said government, fifty percent
said themselves. The younger demo, the eighteen to twenty nine crowd,

(47:33):
sixty three percent said it should be the government. To me,
that's walking dangerously down the road to socialism. Is that
a march down the road to socialism.

Speaker 9 (47:45):
Yeah, yes it did. Americans should remember one thing. When
we hit the government shut down a few weeks ago,
everybody was complaining that we cannot feed certain amount of people,
a number of people. They should remember that the government
can feed you. The government can start you. If the
government controlled the way your life, the way you live

(48:06):
your life, the government can modify it, can change it.
I mean we shouldn't you know. The difference between the
United States and other countries is this. We believe that
our rights are god given rights life, liberty, in pursuit
of happiness. The founding part is made that were on
the Declaration of Independence. Then we rute the constitution to
make sure that these god given rights are protected from

(48:30):
the government. Because we knew that, or they knew that
the government can violate these god given rights that we have.
No other country in the work has this. And if
we allow the government to become part of every part
of every aspect of our life, this is something that
is moving towards a socialistic government.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
And we don't need that.

Speaker 9 (48:55):
That is not compatible with the American system that we have.
Republicans and constitutionalism gives everyone an opportunity to succeed. It
doesn't guarantee you equal result, but it guarantees you equal opportunity.
And if we get eco opportunity, anyone can pursue that
to achieve their greatness based on his God or her

(49:17):
God given ability.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
And this is what we appreciate.

Speaker 9 (49:21):
Refugees like me and my brothers and my family when
we come to United States, we appreciate the opportunity. We're
not looking for anything else. If I may give you
an example, when my brothers gave to the United States
and we landed at JFK, there was a lady who
approached us with an interpreter and we were as to
sign certain forms to join the welfare system to get

(49:42):
certain benefits.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
We didn't know what that meant.

Speaker 9 (49:44):
My brother Tony said, no, no, no, we didn't come
here for government candoubts. We came here for the American opportunity,
for the American dream. You cannot achieved the American opportunity
and the American dream.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Well, the government help.

Speaker 9 (49:58):
If the government is guiding you, he sa impose it
stuff on you. You have to do it on your own.
And the way in your own is when the government
stays out of your life. And I hope that Americans
appreciate the fact that we hit an e raded government
with um rated powers.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Important.

Speaker 9 (50:16):
We're very clear that the government should never have more
than these enumerated powers, and we're losing that and we
should lose it.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Well, Peter Lamage, we need more people like you in
this country, not less. And your thoughts here today on
this I think are really terrific. Peter Lemage, how do
people find you? You're a strategist, you're an attorney, You're
a graduate of the Cardozos School of Law. How do
people find Peter Lomage.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I'm at Peter Lamage dot com. That's the website. The
other platforms are there.

Speaker 9 (50:49):
I really appreciate this, and Happy thanks Giving, Merry Christmas
if we don't talk before, and then happy New Year
as well.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
All right, Peter, good stuff and stay well. We need
to hear your voice. Thank you, thank you, sir, Yes, sir, yes, sir. Absolutely,
twenty thousand Americans eighty percent reject political violence. Love to
know what the other twenty percent or thinking one twenty
six on this Wednesday, it's the average American in for

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Speaker 9 (51:22):
Oh hello, hello, quiet, I'm Skulls.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
I'm broadcasting you bully.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
God shake. You look disappointed that I'm here and not
your boy Willie. Are you disappointed? Seriously? No, you're happy?

Speaker 6 (51:42):
Well, I mean he's uh, he's in Florida. Probably look
looking at what an eight nine foot going left or
into his right, and probably you know, a couple couple
of big dollars are on the line, probably two bucks
a putt eight foot out.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
It's probably a three foot for him.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
Or he's he's taken a nap and getting ready for
the cafeteria today.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
I understand it's chip beef. That's four o'clock. Maybe you
got to get there between four and five. Everything is creamed.

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Speaker 2 (52:34):
You know, I think I see those Baker guys in
there at Little Miami. Did I tell you I think
I've seen like their shirt wearing their shirts. I think
I've seen them.

Speaker 6 (52:42):
There Ken Brew, Ken Rosenthal and also Mark Sheldon is
reporting that the Reds are in have a serious interest
in one Kyle Schwarber and he is interested in a
potential homecoming.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Yeah, I don't see what happens. They don't have the money.
I will to think they'd have the money, but I mean,
from what I'm reading here in this athletic report, he's
looking five years, one hundred and forty five million. Is
what are you looking at? And with the Reds only
having about twenty million to spend. You know, since Martinez
took a hike, I we'll see the Mets are in
play for him as well. So we'll see.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
Let's see Hot Stove League tonight six oh five here
on seven hundred WLW Pitcher Reet Lauder will be the
special guest. Well, that's good college basketball. Miami goes to
seven and oh they beat IU East last night. Dayton
is seven and two after beating East Tennessee State, North
Carolina got by Kentucky at Reperna sixty seven sixty four.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
That was a hell of a game. Wildcats are five
and three. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
NKU opens Horizon League play tonight, opening up and up
against Cleveland State six point thirty, Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Wright State goes on again. It takes on Youngstown State.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
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Of course, the big game is Friday night, Cintas Center.
The Bearcats, the the Muskies.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I don't know, Seg. I mean, I've looked at Zabers
playing a lot better lately. Yes, they are the Bearcats.
They sputter, They look good one night the next night,
and it depends on who they play. Now, obviously all
this depends on who they play. But I know there
is great, great nervousness in Clifton. There's a lot of

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nervousness there.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
Let's see high school football. It's Anderson, the Raptors up
against Avon tomorrow. Talking about the fans, Seg. Not necessarily
the team talk about the fans. You're going Thursday seven
o'clock Division two State football Championship, a rematch of last
year's final, and the Raptors are looking to go one
game better.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
As the Raptors back then? Was that ever the Anderson Redskins?

Speaker 8 (54:56):
Right?

Speaker 2 (54:56):
But last year? But last year they were the Raptors.
I mean that all that stuff happened.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
Okay, Division one state final course on Friday night, seven
thirty and beautiful Canton.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
It'll be Saint X and Olan tangy Orange. I heard
Rockney's given the pregame peptar.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (55:12):
So I heard that. I don't know if it's true,
but I heard that. I heard that today at lunch.
Let's see college football.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
Ohio State offensive coordinator Brian Hartline expected to be named
the next head coach at South Florida.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
That's a blow. That's a blow to the boys, leaving
the Buckeyes right wide receiver. You in Columbus.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Let's see Bengals update, brought to you by Good Spirits,
wine and Tobacco and Party Town. Bengals quarterback Caan Anderson
now a finalist the Pro Football Hall of Fame class
of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
The other finalists include Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft, Roger Craig
and L. C.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Greenwood. You know Anderson should have been in like ten
years ago.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
Correct?

Speaker 6 (55:53):
They can only take one of that entire group, only
one gets to go in, and everybody's thinking it's going
to be Belichick.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
I don't know. I mean it's tough, but if I'm
reading this correctly, only one from the entire group that
we just mentioned is eligible.

Speaker 6 (56:10):
Also Bengals cour Bengals kicker Evan McPherson Moneymack is the
AFC Special Teams Player of the Week, where his efforts
in the win over Go Baltimore last Thanksgiving ninety perfect
six for six and field goals and two for two
and pat.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Just make the one that counts, because you know that
one's coming up. It's going to be like a two
point lead they have to erase. Just make the one
that counts, correct, Nobody cares about piling on. Make the
one that counts.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
Let's see soccer. Former Mount Notre Dame star and NWSL
champion Rose Levelle nominated for the US Soccer Female Player
of the Year award. Wow, that's that's an honor just
to be nominated for about that. That's that's pretty strong.
I think it's next week they announced the winner. So

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years ago tonight, you know what happened.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
It was the Who concert concert yehund Front Coliseum forty
six years ago, tonight, forty six years ago right now,
eleven people were still alive.

Speaker 10 (57:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
And that of course changed the way people attended concerts
in this town. Really everywhere, I mean, festival seating was
banned and everything was like that. I forget how many
years ago it might have been. Five years ago. What
Toddy O'Rourke had a great special on that whole thing,
talked to talk to Pete Townsend, talked to Keith Moon,

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not Keith Moon, Keith Townsend and Roger Daltrey. Roger Daltrey,
thank you. I saw that.

Speaker 6 (57:40):
I remember, I remember when I saw that this morning,
I thought, you know what, I remember her talking to
them and that band was that band was really affected
by the whole thing. They I guess they figured they
said they shouldn't it should have never went to the
next town.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
You know, I produced my share of documentaries in my time,
and I've seen a lot done. That might have been
the best documentary I've ever seen.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
Great.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Uh, you know, maybe they'll rerun that tonight. I don't know,
Maybe I don't know who knows. Seguy forty six years
ago tonight was you know, one of those knights that
live in the proverbial infamy. That's what it is. Unbelievable.
Seg well, you're doing well, you look well, you go,
you're going there. We've got the big client party here today.
Are you going to that?

Speaker 6 (58:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:19):
You're yeah. What do you think we're going to have?
What do you think we're going to have?

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Here?

Speaker 6 (58:22):
Say?

Speaker 2 (58:22):
What kind of food? Because they've got it under wraps,
They've got like four salespeople guarding it right now.

Speaker 6 (58:27):
I think it's going to be prime rib, primary green beans,
mashed potatoes.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
Wow, and a roll? You think prime reb?

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Really?

Speaker 6 (58:35):
Well? Maybe on a smaller scale. I thought Arby's because
it's right across the street.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
I was.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
I was under ye, maybe maybe maybe the clients who
have restaurants are bringing it in.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
I thought, maybe we're going to get some beef and cheddars.
But you think it could be prime rib? No, I
don't think so. Wow, that would Now, that would be
a party, that's for sure. I once want to here.
I will not name the station, but I want when
it went to a Christmas party, Yes station that I
worked for, sir, and they actually charged you admission to
get in. I said, what everybody got there and it

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was ten dollars to get into your station Christmas party.
Where'd they have it as some establishment or so they
rented out. No, it was like this hotel and they
and they rented a room out and you get to
the door and there's the general manager's secretary is sitting
at a table and she's pay her ten bucks cash
to get in. I'm thinking, what a lot of people

(59:32):
just say the hell with that. I'm going to the
bar for ten bucks. This was a while back. Ten
bucks you get like three beers, don't get any ideas,
just saying, seig, the whole world's out of whack and
it's a little rough one. We're the only ones in lockstep,
you know what I mean? That's for sure? Ken Brew
is what is that aging veteran back here? I'm not
in tomorrow? Is he in tomorrow?

Speaker 6 (59:51):
No, he's out until I think he comes back Saturday
or Sunday.

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Right, okay, you bigger? He flies coach? Do you think
he goes first class?

Speaker 6 (59:59):
I think he finally got that private plane that they
offered him when he was doing his show in New York.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Dis custom mate, and I think they finally they finally said,
oh here take it. That's single engine prop right war exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
Too, like one of those planes in Indiana. Jones SEG,
that's all I got. You'll be back here in several minutes.
I'll have more thoughts that I want to impart upon you.
You got ken Brew, always got to talk to you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Well, think I got a good idea too. But get
us out of this whatever this.

Speaker 6 (01:00:30):
Is it, we're in ken Brew and honor of this Wednesday,
we leave you with the immortal words of the stood report.
I have yet another vision that it was clear now
and my crystallized cylindrical pulsating sphere right see a rope
on man with cherry cheeks and a hearty laugh, prancing.

Speaker 11 (01:00:51):
About in the snow. No, it's not Santa Claus. It's
Brian Kelly.

Speaker 5 (01:00:57):
The Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:00:59):
The writing on that show ken Brew should have won awards,
and that show should have won yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Or it should have gotten or it should have gotten canceled,
which is what happened.

Speaker 6 (01:01:10):
Bring them back, Bring them back, Go to me TV,
bring bring back, bring back, bring back sports rock me
all right, sig on seven hundred WLW to a wait

(01:01:31):
News Radio seven hundred w l W. The average American
and for the great American on this Wednesday. Glad you
are with us as well well, if you're scoring and
keeping track of these things. The next government shutdown is
scheduled for January the thirtieth of next year. That would
be January the thirtieth of the end of next month. Yes,

(01:01:56):
the things that brought us forty days of living hell
could rear its ugly head early in the new calendar year.
And at the center of it all is funding for Obamacare.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Now a little history. Obamacare was voted in, as you
well know, and named after the president that was in
office and pushed for it in the late two thousands,
two thousand and nine, twenty ten somewhere in that area,
and the Republicans, when they got control of the House
in the Senate, tried to pare it down somewhat, the

(01:02:30):
Skinny Bill. Of course, that famously resulted in John McCain
walking down the aisle at the last moment and doing
thumbs down. And so much for that, And Obamacare is
basically chugged along, almost collapsing under its own weight ever since.
But what shut down the government, according to the current
group of Democrats, for forty days was the fact that

(01:02:52):
these temporary subsidies that were put in place by the
Biden administration in the wake of COVID make sure everybody
who had Obamacare had enough money to get health care.
They're expiring, and the current group of Democrats wanted those
things to be part of a permanent deal. It's not

(01:03:14):
a good idea, it doesn't make sense. In fact, it
doesn't make sense to a lot of Democrats, but nevertheless
that's what united them. Health Care in this country's broken.
It's broken out a number of levels, not the least
of which in Obamacare, but just on a number of
different levels. But Obamacare is here. You're not going to
get rid of it. You have to make it more
palatable both to not only the people that are funding it,

(01:03:37):
but the people that are using it. Can't vote against
Santa Claus. You're not going to vote the thing out.
So what are you going to do to to try
and fix this thing? And what now will be a
very short amount of time before what could be another
government shutdown over this thing in about seven weeks. Standing
by the way, in is the smartest man there is

(01:03:57):
an America, in my opinion, when it comes to health care.
He's written a book called the sixty percent solution rethinking healthcare.
He's a good guest of this program. He is Todd Furnis. Todd,
how are you on this glorious day?

Speaker 10 (01:04:10):
I am doing dandy, Ken, Thank you so much for
having me today.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
I want to talk to you about how you fix
Obamacare because it's been kicked down the road. Kicked down
the road, Republicans seem to have no real plan. They've
come up with something called the Health Reimbursement Arrangements HRA
as an alternative to what the current system is. But
the fact of the matter is it's not fixed. It's
ready to implode, and the Democrats don't want to give

(01:04:34):
up what they have. They want more money thrown into it.
So Todd Furnis is now in charge of fixing Obamacare.
Where do you start?

Speaker 10 (01:04:43):
Well, I would challenge the original thesis, which is Obamacare
did not give anybody access to healthcare, not one person.
Obamacare gave people an expensive way to pay insurance companies
for insurance companies to pay for somebody else's medical expenses.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
And there's a big difference there.

Speaker 10 (01:05:13):
If I said, hey, Ken, I'd love for you to
pay my bills, you would say, well, I ought to
know what those bills are.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Going to be, shouldn't I?

Speaker 10 (01:05:20):
And I said, well, yeah, but you got to take
that chance because I don't know what the bills are
going to be. Well, you say, well, I'm gonna have
to build in a model that gives me a lot
of wiggle room for the risks that I'm taking because
you don't know what your bills are going to be,
and I don't know what your bills are going to be,
because remember, insurance is paying me in advance for something
statistical and probably statistically improbable to occur to you. In

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other words, it's unlikely to happen to you, but if
it does, I'm going to pay for it. And then
then if I do pay for it, I've got to
build in the overhead and I've also got to build
in a margin to cover that expense. So what that
means it is one out of one hundred percent of
the time, it's going to be a lot more expensive

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for you to have somebody else pay your bills.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
I don't know when.

Speaker 10 (01:06:09):
You say I was the smartest guy in healthcare, I was.
First of all, I got to tell you I was
disappointed I was only in healthcare, but I don't think
I'm smart at all. I think that's just really just
basic walking around stuff. So you know, maybe we think
about things differently here in Texas, but that's the way
I think about it is it's always going to be
more expensive if you have somebody else paid for it. Now,

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the reimbursement plan that is being kind of kicked around
as saying, hey, you know what, this Obamacare thing doesn't
make any sense. So what we're going to do is
we're not going to pay the insurance companies the subsidies
that are coming out of the Obamacare extension, because that's
what they are. What they're doing is they're saying, we're
going to pay the insurance companies directly to subsidize the

(01:06:52):
healthcare you're getting to the corresponding ACA marketplace.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Well, that doesn't make any sense either. What you're saying
is these.

Speaker 10 (01:07:01):
Subsidies are essentially saying, I'm giving money directly to the
insurance companies again to pay for the bills that you're
going to incur.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Right, So just I'll stop it. Can I just put
the brakes on right here to explain what h ris are.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
This is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
I guess the plan that some Republicans want. Basically, as
I read it, it allows employers to set aside tax
free dollars for their employees to use on medical expenses
for themselves the families. The employer does not pay payroll
taxes on the contribution, and it literally extracts what are
basically direct payments to these health insurers. Am I right?

Speaker 10 (01:07:42):
Yes, Now it's a little bit The question you haven't
asked is you said, hey, cod you know you kind
of talk about this in your book one hundred years
ago that you wrote, which is because it's.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Very analogous to something called the fessay and the essay.

Speaker 10 (01:08:00):
So the fssay is a flexible spending account and that's
another employer and employee funded opportunity to ask that question.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I was going to ask that question next, Todd, but
go ahead. I was about I was about to ask
that question next, but you said as the question I was.

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
Going to say, Todd, just give me a chance to
get through these questions.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 10 (01:08:24):
Well, we're on number five, and keep you if you're
keeping support home. So the the health reimbursement is a
little bit different because that's funded by the employer. The
flexible spending account is primarily funded by the employee through
pre tax payroll deductions, but employers can also contribute. The
problem is that with an FSSA, if you don't use

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the money at the end of the by the end
of the calendar year, it goes back to the employer.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Right and uh by.

Speaker 10 (01:08:56):
Contrast with a health savings account, which is actually interview
back in twenty three hundred George W.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Bush by a.

Speaker 10 (01:09:04):
Guy named John Goodman, who is the guy who you are,
was the architect of that. Without saving the account, you
the employee gets to use the money and keep the money,
and you can invest it in. The money stays the
under the ownership of the employee, and it's also pre
tax dollars, right, And who's putting the money in and

(01:09:25):
who gets to keep it at the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
And Obamacare basically prohibited hr is from being used to
purchase coverage right for the individual, and then Trump put
it back in in twenty nineteen, and then Biden didn't
mess with it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
So you may be the smartest guy in healthcare.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
God bought the smartest guy in healthcare.

Speaker 12 (01:09:43):
I just read your book.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
But the fact of the matter, the fact of the
matter is it ain't working, and the Democrats wanted to
put all of this, make all of these these emergency
this emergency funding that occurred during COVID, they wanted to
make them permanent. And even if people like the Congressional
Budget Office said that if you extended those things, your
deficit would probably go up three hundred and fifty to

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four hundred billion over ten years, and that another's probably
fifty to sixty billion in interest costs. So that's not working,
and they're probably going to come back with the same thing.
So if you're if you're there and you've got the Republicans,
you got the Democrats in the room, and you say, okay,
Obamacare is not going to I mean, whatever it was,

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you're not going to vote against Santa Claus. Nobody wants that. Okay,
Then how do we make this thing viable and something
that isn't going to unplode from its own weight. What
would you do.

Speaker 10 (01:10:39):
If you start up with a problem that is solved
using bailing wire and duct tape, adding more bailing wire
and duct tape is seldom a permanent conclusion. And so
I have a problem with the premise, which is fixing Obamacare.
You can't fix Obamacare. It's unfixable. That's the challenge. And

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so people have in their mind that Obamacare somehow was
a good thing. I never believed that it never was
a good thing, and so I think we need to
sketch out a different plan. It starts with a different
set of structures and incentives if.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
We want to. You know what, here's the other.

Speaker 10 (01:11:20):
Thing we have talked a lot about in the public
commentary in the last several months about this guy in
New York City called Mamdami, right, and we talked about
socialism and what FDR did when he created this model
of allowing corporations to deduct healthcare benefits as a business

(01:11:42):
expense without taxing the recipient as compensation. What he really
did was create another flavor of socialism called corporate socialism.
He's moving the obligations of the individual not to the
federal go because FIFTR knew he would never get that passed.

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He moved it to the corporation and said, hey, you
the corporation are going to be responsible for this, and
as a result, we're not taxed. The issue that nobody's
talking about is this is in fact a form of compensation,
but the individual employee is not getting tax on it. Yeah,
And if you really wanted to solve the problem in
a way that would make everybody uncomfortable and be kind

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very controversial, you say, no, let's recognize it for what
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
This is compensation to the employee. If you did that
and employees paid.

Speaker 10 (01:12:33):
Tax on the compensation, down many on the benefits has compensation,
it's about three quarters of a trillion dollars that would
go back to the federal treasury.

Speaker 6 (01:12:41):
Yeah, that's got that doesn't have legs politically. I mean,
we know that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
I mean, there's no way that the Democrats are going
to say, Okay, we're going to give you. You're going
to have to pay tax now on this.

Speaker 10 (01:12:51):
But I can completely agree with that. I completely agree
with that. But at the same time, you and people
are saying, well, we have to find we have to
fix it somehow. Okay, Well, fixing the catastrophe that is
Obamacare is not going to be the answer because the
yere's the other thing that's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
And I think I may have shared this with you before, Ken.

Speaker 10 (01:13:10):
What we're also doing is in the public hospitals, we're
moving the financial burden for those who have ACA plans
to the local county taxpayer.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
So what's happening is because the ACA.

Speaker 10 (01:13:27):
Plans are typically high deductible, and the people who have
those plans are typically unable to pay that deductible, then
the county hospitals are only collecting about ten cents on
the dollar of what they would get reimbursed if they
were getting paid through Medicaid. So what's happening is you're saying, Okay,
we want all this money, all these ACA plans. The

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Fed's going to subsidize some of that, but where the
money's really coming out of is the county taxpayer at
the local level.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
And nobody's talking about that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
No, Well, you're the first that actually brought it up,
at least on my show that that's going on. So okay,
so Obamacare, okay, so we're fixing Obamacare here in the
next three minutes. So what you're saying is Obamacare doesn't work.
The premise of it was just flawed from jump, so
we have to replace it. And these HRAs look encouraging.

(01:14:20):
They do. I'm not sure you're going to get a
lot of You're going to get political pushback for a
lot of different reasons. Simply because it's an election year
next year, and I don't know if you're going to
be able to get everybody into a room and agree
on this thing, but it's certainly something that is going
to be very much in the political forefront for the

(01:14:42):
off year elections. So the shout the loudest voices, as
you well know Todd wind up on cable channels. But
the people that get things done are people that you
don't even know their names who they represent. So I'm
just wondering, what do you think the chances are, I mean,
realistic chances of getting this thing last sewed in so

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that the seven percent of Americans who actually use Obamacare
insurance won't be left out in the cold and the
rest of us won't be just taxed to the hilt
to try and pay for it.

Speaker 10 (01:15:15):
Yeah, and you know, I go back to we've been
having a conversation as a nation about healthcare and who
pays for it for at least.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
Eighty years.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
I was going to say at least since the end
of World War Two.

Speaker 10 (01:15:31):
Yeah, but he was actually Baylor down in Dallas where
they were for fifty bucks a month they would take
care of teachers, and so the first time the federal
government ever got involved was actually under John Adams because

(01:15:52):
we had sailors who were coming over with.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Scurvy and they were incurring.

Speaker 10 (01:15:55):
Medical expenses, and so they were taxing five cent nickel
basically for every sailor. So I've been talking about it
for quite a while.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
HR is an interesting idea.

Speaker 10 (01:16:06):
It's fairly new, and anything that new necessarily.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Has an adoption problem.

Speaker 10 (01:16:12):
But it's a fairly new idea and it's going to
probably run into some headwinds because it's going to be
a tax benefit to the company, and the folks on
the left typically hate anything that's a tax benefit to
the company, right, But I don't like taxing the companies.
They don't like tax benefits, right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
I mean, inevitably, you're going to blame the one percent. Ineforably,
you're going to blame corporations. And inevitably it's going to
be the Republican's love corporations. And look, they're not taking
care of the little guy. But the little guy is
going to get left at the post. I just I
think it's going to be fascinating Tom because we have
the the off year elections and now there's a push

(01:16:54):
by the Democrats to, you know, just extend these things
for three years, these these emergency subsidies, and then you're
right up against the presidential election. See, all of it's
couched against politics, which is what I think plays into
what you just said. We've kicked the can down the
road so much on this that it's become a political game,
not necessarily a healthcare game, and the only people that

(01:17:17):
seem to be doing well are the insurance companies. And
I think that's where that's where we are right.

Speaker 10 (01:17:21):
Now, and that lands up in Luigi Mongoni right shooting
the guy from you know, but I think that the
other issue that you're correctly pointing out here is that
it's it's it feels like it's an intractable solution, but
a problem. But you know, the other problem that I
kind of tongue in cheek as hurt is it goes

(01:17:42):
back to the clear failure of the education system because
the Democrats have clearly not understood the definition of the
word temporary, right, because these were never supposed to be
permanent subsidies, and now they're saying, wait a minute, how
can you leave us out on the cold? These were well,
the they were always supposed to be temporary. And guess
what it was the Democrats that made it temporary.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
There wasn't a weak thing that we said, Hey, let's
go do this temporary thing. It's a good idea.

Speaker 10 (01:18:10):
So I think there's a we really need to get
back to the core issues of how do we pay
for stuff? And the models that have always worked one
hundred percent of the time is when people pay for
stuff themselves, and it never works when you have somebody
else pay It's just another form, like I said, of
corporate socialism, a relicive FDR.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
That's why you're the smartest man in the healthcare industry.
His book is The sixty Percent Solution, Rethinking Healthcare. Todd's
due for another book. I'm just telling you, you got
to get another one out there, Todd Furnas you stay well,
you know we'll be in touchdown the road. Thanks for
your insight today. We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
Thank you so much. My friend take care.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Yep, he's due for another book. He's been living off
this one far too long. But you know, it was
just on CBS this week. I was watching a congressman
from California. I believe his last name was Lecardo. I
don't know his first name, can't remember it, but he
said that the push by some of these other dams
in Congress to extend these Obamacare subsidies for three years

(01:19:14):
is kind of cynical because you're right up against the
presidential election year. Then they had a Kylie who was
a Republican from California. He was on there too, and
he said, you know, it's yeah if you do it,
but if you just do it through twenty twenty six,
you're up against the midterms after that. I mean, they

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this is a political hot potato and there's no easy
answer to it. But if they get to health reimbursement
arrangements where the insurance companies aren't getting paid but the
individual employee gets the money to determine his or her
healthcare path and don't tax that, I mean that sounds
like everybody walks away happy. Sure, the corporations are the

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ones are the other ones that would benefit from it,
But so what if you and I benefit from it?
What's wrong with that? Sure, are wasting a lot of
tax dollars on anything everything else in this country, aren't we?
I'm down off my soapbox. It's two twenty seven. News
Radio seven hundred w wel w.

Speaker 11 (01:20:14):
I have yet have another vision that has become clear
now and my crystallized cyindrical pulsating sphere, I see a
roton man with cherry cheeks and a hearty laugh, prancing
about in the snow. No, it's not Santa Claus. It's
Brian Kelly.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Hello, quiet, and I'm I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
So good to see you again. Same here, ken Brew,
the rock is here to what do you think I
have cataracts? I'm looking right at the guess jack and see.
Good to see your rock. You look great. You're all
dressed up for the Christmas part?

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:20:57):
Absolutely? What my reindeer costume on? As you can see,
I can see that. That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Are you prancer or acer dancer? Yes?

Speaker 12 (01:21:05):
Much more, much more effeminate reindeer.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
So what what what is expected of us at this
this gathering today? What do we have to do besides it?

Speaker 7 (01:21:17):
That's how I plan on really doing. But now we're
supposed to you know, wine dine and pocket line.

Speaker 6 (01:21:22):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
Dot com Western Hills right correct. Who's the most famous
singer ever to come out of Western Hills High School?
Pete Rose Andy Williams. How about that turn? If he
were alive, he'd be ninety eight years old today Today
was his birthday. See here he is. Yeah, he got
to play it. It's got to start singing on this

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radio station.

Speaker 1 (01:22:22):
It's the most wonderful time.

Speaker 12 (01:22:25):
See that's why I like your show.

Speaker 7 (01:22:27):
I had I've heard this song ten thousand times in
my life, and I had no idea.

Speaker 12 (01:22:31):
You're telling me. The guy singing this song went to
West High.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Went to West High.

Speaker 6 (01:22:35):
Yeah, went to West High, and I think when he
was maybe like a senior, they moved out to Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
You were in the drama department at sant.

Speaker 7 (01:22:43):
X one Iran. It yeah, absolutely, medal winner two years
in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
A lot of drama before those report cards came out right,
two or three days before. It's a lot of drama.

Speaker 12 (01:22:52):
Yeah, it's the employment allis there was for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
See what's going on at sports?

Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
Throw the Bengals for working out outside the next couple
of days, getting ready for that, getting used to that
Buffalo weather they're going to face on Sunday. Trey Hendrickson's
not going to practice again. Imagine that t Higgins limited
in practice. He's working through that concussion protocol Bacon progress,
but don't know whether or not he'll be available on

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Sunday or not.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
We'll wait and see. Rok, what do you think about
that on Sunday? I mean I could see if the
Bengals always handle the Bills well. But this is a
huge game for the Bills, right, I mean they're still
chasing the paper.

Speaker 12 (01:23:28):
Yeah, they're still chasing it. You know, the Bengals are
inspired by Joe Burrow.

Speaker 7 (01:23:33):
The Bengals defense have looked better the last two weeks,
so you know, and there's something to play for you
win out, which is not easy, and then the Ravens
and the Steelers split, saying there's a chance.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
What happens if they beat the Bills and they beat
the Ravens and then lose to the Dolphins. That's not good.

Speaker 12 (01:23:50):
We cry and cry and cry.

Speaker 6 (01:23:53):
Yes, Bengals kicker Evan McPherson is the ASC Special Teams
Player of the Week with his efforts in the Ravens win.
They went perfect six for six and field goals money
man and two for two and pats unbelievable. Ken Anderson
finalist the Pro Football Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Six should be in there already. Amen.

Speaker 6 (01:24:13):
Anderson takes on Avon tomorrow night in Canton for the
Division two title. The Bombers go at it Friday night. Yes,
you made Anderson High School. Ken Anderson isn't taking on Avon,
right he should? I think I think he's playing for
the Raptors. But don't tell anybody, Okay, don't tell him. Okay,
you know always looking here, you know the other for

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the Ken Anderson. I mean, it's gonna be tough. You
got to get eighty percent of the vote.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
You got Belichick and you got Brady on that and
that could be some drama they both get in. Robert Craft. Yeah, yeah,
Robert Craft in Belichick, I'm sorry, yes, thank you for
correcting me on it. Anyway, I was going back looking
at some statistics here at Rocky. Do you remember the
two thousand and six season you guys played the Colts
played the Patriots up in New England. You beat him

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twenty seven to twenty.

Speaker 12 (01:25:01):
You remember that in two thousand and seven, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Yeah, yeah, it was that magical year.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
That was.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
I'm trying to think what the dead. No, you played
in November fifth of two thousand and six.

Speaker 7 (01:25:12):
Okay, no, you're yeah, you're talking about the sixth season
we played in an AFC Italium, but that was at
our place, right, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
You played no in two thousand and six, you played
them in New England, rock I got the stats here
right in front of me.

Speaker 12 (01:25:23):
That was the regular season game in the AFC title.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I'm talking about that regular season Yeah, Corry Della had
a couple of touchdowns. Vine Terry was going crazy. You
played in that game, So I mean you probably sent
both Belichick and Craft home unhappy into that wilderness that
is New England.

Speaker 12 (01:25:43):
Magical year.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Yes, I believe, I said Dallas Clark. Yeah, Joseph and Die,
you had a great team. Marvin Harrison.

Speaker 7 (01:25:49):
The Colt now, Robert Bob said, Sanders of safety, the
eraser Colts now are a little bit of in a crisis.
We have Sauce Garner's right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
They got a quarterbacks, got a broken leg that's playing
on a fractured leg. Say continue, please.

Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
College basketball tonight, NKU opens up Horizon League play, taking
on Cleveland State six point thirty on Fox Sports thirteen sixty.
Among the one of the Reds that'll be making their
appearance at Redsfest next month, Andrew Abbott, Graham Ashcraft, TJ. Friedel, Also,

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Terry Francona and his coaching staff, brons At Arroyo, Oh,
Skeeter Barnes, Skeeter Barnhardt the Cowboy, they're digging them up.
Sean Casey, Danny Graves, Wow, Devin Mezzeraco, De Infamous. Dave Miley,
Dave Miley, Sam LeCure.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
You know Dave Miley. I was in Tampa when Dave
Miley was a high school athlete, and Dave Miley was
a better football player than he was a baseball player.
And he was a great baseball player. Miley could have
played in the NFL. That's how good he was about
that could have played in the NFL. It looks like
got Brian Hartline is off to South Florid, Florida. Yeah,

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going to Ryan.

Speaker 6 (01:27:08):
Day says he's gonna continue on coaching the Buckeyes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
See how far they go?

Speaker 7 (01:27:14):
Ken Brew, Are you as upset as I am about
here we are? It's the end of the college football season,
the part were it's supposed to be more fun than ever,
and we got the you know, the bowl games coming,
the playoff coming, and it's a mess. There's coaches going everywhere,
leaving teams. The playoff is a disaster too. You got
a seven and five duke team playing the ACC title game.

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No one knows who's going in, who's not going in.

Speaker 12 (01:27:38):
It's a mess. It's supposed to be one on the
best part of the year and it's a mess.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
And the Ohio University he's not there. Nobody knows why
he was. Just that's walked into a meet the idea
apparently walked into a coaches meeting, told everybody to get out,
and then told the head coach go away, you're on leave.
Nobody knows why.

Speaker 7 (01:27:56):
Well, I have Chuck Martin at five of five. Can
maybe I'll ask him, he'll know I do Chuck.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Is Chuck Martin the best coach in the back.

Speaker 12 (01:28:07):
I mean, he's the best coach in America. I think
he's fantastic. He's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
They overschedule, they get the paydays early on, and then man,
he's ready to go. His quarterback quit on him. He's
that's some guy never heard of. I thought it would
got The guy's kid's name is Gutkowski. I thought it
was the kicker that used to be with with New England.
Look what he's done. The kid was the red shirt
freshman throwing three three touchdown passes last week. And Chuck

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Martin's the best football coach in the back. You may
be writing, maybe the best football coach in the matter.

Speaker 12 (01:28:38):
I've been saying for a while.

Speaker 7 (01:28:39):
Ken, you know everybody's looking for the next hot young
offensive coordinator to become the next head coach of this
and that. Well why not go to Kurt Signetti model
right of a guy who's just won, the guy who
just wins. And Chuck Martin, whether it's a Grand Valley
State or Miami, he just wins. He knows the ins
and outs of how to run a program through the
ups and the downs and the portal and all that

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get a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Like, hey, you guys, ever heard you? Guy's ever heard this?

Speaker 12 (01:29:07):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
You know who this is right? Yes, Black Sabbath. Today's
a monumental day for Black Sabbath rock. You know, in
a good groove.

Speaker 12 (01:29:19):
This is right here.

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
If he were alive today, Ozzie, Ozzie would be seventy
seven years old on day.

Speaker 7 (01:29:28):
How about that he's passed what about six months ago July,
late July.

Speaker 6 (01:29:33):
Yeah, yeah, he did that that concert and like a
week and a half later he was dead.

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
Gone.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Yeah, he's unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
He's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
And heard your dog Elvis their rock?

Speaker 12 (01:29:44):
Yeah, well dad, you say that can brew my dog.
He was sixteen years old, over retriever.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Unbelievable. Was really?

Speaker 6 (01:29:50):
Was he named after Elvis Presley or Elvis Costello?

Speaker 12 (01:29:53):
Elvis Presley because he is the king? Yes, the King
is sixteen?

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
God bless God, bless that. That is a wonderful breed.
I used to have a golden and I cried like
a baby to day she died. It was unbelievable, the
best unbelievable yes, take care of your pets absolutely. Well,
what do you got coming up rock at three o'clock?
I don't want to spend too much time here because
I know the agent veteran that you work with gets upset.
What do you got coming up at three o'clock?

Speaker 12 (01:30:18):
Well, first of all, Eddie's out again again.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
I mean we've got he's gone more than Biden, and
Biden was gone the day.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:30:31):
So Jason Williams is in right out of the gate.
This would be fun. We have Jack Grinder on Attorney
to the Stars.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
I don't know who is who is he?

Speaker 5 (01:30:38):
And he's in a.

Speaker 7 (01:30:40):
Local attorney and he wrote an OpEd about you know
there's a time you're a porch pirates, right, Kener you
steal the packages?

Speaker 12 (01:30:46):
Well, he was asked a question if I set a
booby trap?

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Right?

Speaker 12 (01:30:50):
You know you've seen those those videos where they they
steal the package and it blows up and it's like,
you know, pink dust or something.

Speaker 7 (01:30:57):
Yeah, he's gonna tell him if that's legal or not.
So I thought that was timely. That's why I gate
at three. I know it's not in New York. True,
they take the victim, they don't take the criminal.

Speaker 12 (01:31:09):
In New York every single time. Yeah, and then at
four o'clock we have a woman coming on, a research
and author. I'm going to talk about Americans using AI
to choose their Christmas gifts?

Speaker 7 (01:31:18):
Can people do anything on their own anymore? Do we
have to use AI to do everything? I mean literally everything?

Speaker 2 (01:31:23):
That's why I take Seg shopping with me, Amen, Seg?
Is there anything else we need to get to before
we cut into Rocky's time? And who are you what today?

Speaker 6 (01:31:30):
Jason, Jason Williams and Jason Williams and some woman that's
going to do some AI shopping for you, and some
guy that wants to blow up packages.

Speaker 7 (01:31:38):
And it's another day on the editing Rocky shows.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
I thought I was doing well. Nobody well and they
want to blow up?

Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
Is the last three hours here with hey say get
us out of the Steward's Report.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
We got to go mingle with the guests ken Brew
in honor of our Christmas party.

Speaker 6 (01:31:53):
Today we leave you with the immortal words of the
stewd Report.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
You got it. I will come on in time you
ask me, because I mean, there's there's no bigger highlight
than anybody could happen to be on the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
All the famer said, said said, who who.

Speaker 5 (01:32:12):
Is that Ken?

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
That's Ken Anderson. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't
recommend to JEMs.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
Hey, Rock, you get older, man, your hearing goes.

Speaker 8 (01:32:20):
You know that.

Speaker 12 (01:32:21):
You know my dog Element he's alive, but he can't
hear anything.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
Let me just say it, when you get older. The
second thing that.

Speaker 12 (01:32:28):
Goes, we'll ponder the first thing in the in the
five o'clock hours, Ken

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
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