Gary Jeff Walker in for Willie 12-29-25

Gary Jeff talks to producer/director Michael Pack about his new movie "The Last 600 Meters". He talks to Rev. Mark Biltz who says the U.S. is prophecized to be at war in 2026. Gary Jeff talks with William Reed who has launched a music fundraiser to aid the troops.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well, Hello, two Day Heights, basking in the glow of
another Bengals victory at the end of a season with
nowhere to go afterwards against a lesser NFL team, but
a win is still a win in the National Football League.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Congratulations Bengals on their blowout of Arizona yesterday at Pei
Corp Stadium. Boy, the last nice day of the year too,
unless you love you know, thirteen degree windshills and win
guests of thirty or forty miles an hour, which is

(00:39):
what we have today, Gary Jeff Walker in for Willie
on this last Monday of the year, and our first
guest on the last Monday of the year is producer
and director of the documentary The Last six hundred Meters.
This is about two of the deadliest battles of the

(01:05):
Iraq War early on from the perspective of the men
who fought it, and its producer and director is a
man named Michael Pack and he is on my line
right now. Good afternoon, and happy New year, Michael. How
are you.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I'm doing well. Happy New Year to you to you.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Too, Oh, thank you very much. This was filmed obviously
years ago and it's just been this documentary and it's
just coming out. Now, tell me a little bit about
the last six hundred meters from your perspective, since you
were instrumental in putting it together.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Absolutely, well, let's call the last six hundred meters because
the Special Force of Sniper says in the film, I
don't make foreign policy. I just delivered the last six
hundred meters of it, meaning what he could see through
his sniperscope. And that's what we tried to do in
this film. As you said in the introduction, how the
story is from the point of view people who fought there,

(02:01):
and these these the biggest battles America's forts since Vietnam,
Belujah and the jeff And we spoke to people from
corporals and sergeants up to the one star generals that
were in the field. We try to tell these stories
without politics. Is if their battle stories could like historical
battles like Gettysburger Ewejima. And it's that feeling that you know,

(02:22):
we asked these young men and women to fight and
die for us. We should at least understand what they
did and understand their valor and sacrifice. And it's true
that we did. We shot these interviews many years ago.
The battles took place in two thousand and four. We
shot the interviews in two thousand and six when the
people were still young and they look like they did

(02:42):
in the footage. And then it was primarily funded by
the Corporation of Public Broadcasting, and it took us many
years before PBS agreed to put it on the air,
but they broadcasted the day before Veterans Day of this
past fall, and now they're distributing it to Amazon and
soon elsewhere so your listeners can get it. I got
directly to Amazon and just searching for the last six

(03:04):
hundred meters, or to our website Matifold Productions dot com,
where we've made over fifteen sounds for public television and
they're all listed there.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
You mentioned the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, of which you
were a CEO, and you were also co chair of
the International TV Council there and the Senate confirmed you
to serve in the National Council of the Humanities, which
oversaw the National and Dance Endowment for the Humanities. Michael,
you know what I love about Wikipedia, Almost nothing except

(03:35):
it's a great It's it's a great source for slanted
information because they they termed your term from June to
twenty twenty to January of twenty twenty one, when you
served as the CEO of well overseeing basically the Voice

(03:58):
of America and several other entities of our federal government
in overseas and broadcasting. And Wikipedia terms your your time
there as a time of crisis because you actually fired
people that needed to be fired, you know. And and

(04:19):
since President Trump has returned to office, Uh, he's talked
about defunding NPR and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting in
its current form. Uh, you know, why are taxpayers paying
for basically state run radio and TV? And I think
he has a point there. What's your thought in retrospect

(04:39):
looking back on your time and and what's gone on
now since President Trump has returned.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
To office, Well, he has defunded CPD, which means PBS
and NPR. My other time, my most contentious time in
the first Trump administration, as you said, was as the
US Agency for Global Media, which oversees the Voice of
America and the other international broadcasters. And President Trump has

(05:07):
entrusted carry Lake with the job of reducing it to
its statutory minimum.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
And I agree with that.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Actually, I found these organizations to be tremendously biased. There
are a case study in what happens with the administrative
state when you have an unelected branch of government, essentially
government bureaucrats acting as if they know more than the president,
which they may or may not know more than the president.
But he's elected by the American people and he needs
to have the power to get his vision across in

(05:36):
the time that he's president. If you don't like it,
you've got to vote him out of office. But these
administrative agencies are very resistant to that.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
They think they know better. They think President Trump what
does he know about the media?

Speaker 4 (05:48):
You know, he's just a sort of reality star where
really journalists.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
And they chose not to listen to me.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Or as the representative of President Trump. And I think
that I have an important mission the Voice of America,
which is to tell America's story to the world and
counter propaganda from ora enemies like China and Russia and Iran.
But they're not actually doing it in an effective way,
and they're not responsive to the President. And those institutions

(06:17):
need to be demolished and rebuilt from the ground up.
And that's a very tough job that the president is
entrusted to carry lake, and I think it needs to
be done, and.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
There are a lot of that across the government.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
I feel like in a way the Doge action elon
Musk separates were really not directed properly.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
It was It's not just the waste, broad and abuse.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
There's something wrong with unelected bureaucrats acting as if they
know better than the president, whether they do or not.
That's not the way democracy works. And that was a
problem for me, and you can see it in my
Wikipedia page which you reference where they at all, where
they chose to reference all these facts of me from
the Wash and Post of the New York Times and

(07:01):
NPR and elsewhere. So then, which is a symptom of
the problem itself. So yes, I think it's a tough thing.
And President Trump has way bigger problems where those where
there's a resistant bureaucracy and huge institutions like the Defense
Department of the Department of Justice that are far more important.
But I found that the problems of the US Agency

(07:25):
for Global Media were.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
A small case study in this kind of issue.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Oh, absolutely a microcosm of that larger administrative state that
you spoke of and it's so odd you were fired
or asked to leave your position two hours after Joe
Biden took office, two hours And I don't remember any
great uproar of people fight. You can't fire Michael Pack.

(07:50):
He's doing He's doing a great job. Nobody kicked and
screamed about that. But when President Trump, who is the
executive and had the purview to fire these heads of
these agencies who aren't doing what his agenda speaks to
what they should be doing, you know, are acting like

(08:10):
it's a constitutional crisis that the executive would do.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
That.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Therein lies the difference between right and left. I think,
at least right now in this country. Would you agree
with that?

Speaker 3 (08:24):
I do agree.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
I mean I had a multi year appointment which President
Biden shows to ignore. And it's true he fired me
or asked me to resign within an hour. I think
of his inauguration. Politico re appointed it, reported it as the
first foreign policy actor of the Biden administration, which I
guess is kind of an honor. I'm more important than

(08:46):
Russia or or whatever other foreign policy challenges he had,
So I wasn't the first to go. And more importantly,
we had people that I have brought in who had
actual binding contracts to run like radio for your Greater
Liberty Middle East Broadcasting Radio Free Asia. And they had
actual contracts, written, contracts, signed, legitimate and he fired them.

(09:09):
And that really is a violation of the rule of law.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
In America, where a contract is supposed to be a contract.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
That those people, those heads of those networks were told
by their lawyers that they had right on their.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Side, but that would never be.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
It would take them years to win, cost them a
huge amount of money, and just wasn't worth it. So
they were illegally fired, even more so than myself. And yes,
there was no uproar. It was not even covered. It
was not even covered. That's such a small you know,
sin wasn't even covered in right leaning media, let alone

(09:43):
and left leaning media.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
You mentioned Doge, and the first big Doge cuts were
to USAID, which I totally agreed with, since a lot
of this money seemed to me from the outside looking
in as just a giant money laundering organization where the
money was supposed to go to whatever transgender turtles in

(10:10):
Turkey too, and it somehow found its way back into
the pockets of people here in the United States. I
hope that they unravel all of that and that no
longer is a burden on the US taxpayer. Let's switch
gears here talking to Michael Pack who was the producer

(10:30):
and director. He's also the president of Manifold Productions and
Palladium Pictures. With this documentary the last six hundred meters
about two of the deadliest battles in Iraq in the
Iraq Will War two thousand and four, that the President
laid a huge Christmas present, if you want to call

(10:52):
it that on ISIS in Nigeria over the Christmas holiday
and these strikes, of course, tarketing this terrorist group which
Trump had already defeated the Caliphate in his first term
in a matter of weeks, along with the great strategy
of the military and the great leaders there. He warned

(11:14):
them they'd have held to pay if they kept killing
Christians in these huge numbers in Nigeria, and he delivered
once again an any thoughts on that this, Michael, I think.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
That's well put that he you know, Isis remains a threat.
And people sometimes think of Donald Trump as a neo isolationist.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
I don't think that's really right. He's been consistent.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
He's, as you say, he opposed ISIS in the first term,
and he they're not defeated and he's opposed to them.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Now. It is true that, you know, we want to.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Avoid getting sucked into an endless land war, as we've
done before, but I think Tom Trump is very sensitive
about that, so I supportive of those attacks on ISIS.
Another documentary we're working on with the Wall Street Journalist
about withdrawal from Afghanistan, which you may remember ended with
a suicide bombing on the part of ISIS k that

(12:12):
it killed thirteen Americans and hundreds of Afghan citizens. So
I think these these you know, Radical Islam remains a threat.
I think Donald Trump is right to attack them where
they threaten Americans. So I'm supportive of that, you know,
and I think defending Christians is an admirable goal. But
it's not just that in the Syria attacks, you know,

(12:34):
had nothing to do with Christians. I think he's opposed
to radical Islam because of its threat to American citizens
and others that remain an international threat.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
So I'm supportive of that.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
As you mentioned in my film The Least Six and
the Meters, it is really a case and what happens,
how challenging these counters surgencies can be when they become
extended land wards, and I.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Think people should watch that and.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Be reminded of those things. We often reluctant to look back,
but as they've gone too the holidays, I think we should.
And I feel strongly that the veterans of the Iraq
and Afghanistan wars do not get the credit they deserve
because people have mixed feelings about their war, but that
doesn't take away from the heroism of the young men
and women who fought them for us.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I was looking at my history notes for my program
this past Saturday morning, Michael, and it was the anniversary
in nineteen seventy nine when the Soviets toppled the Afghan
government and installed their own puppet and then stayed in
a slog for ten years in Afghanistan and then lo

(13:41):
and behold ten years later. There we are locked in
this twenty year battle in Afghanistan. And if we didn't
learn anything from Vietnam at all, we should have learned
that Afghanistan the folly of that even going after the
people that were behind nine to eleven, well, it should

(14:01):
have been clear to us especially after the Soviets ten
years of inertia.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
And I mean, don't you think so. Don't you think
we would have learned better from the example of the Soviets. Oh, well,
we're just going to do it better than they did.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
No, we didn't.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
It's hard to learn these lessons. As you point out,
they are tough to learn. We could have got in,
tried to kill.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
The sound the lot and gotten out. I mean, that
would have been the perfect solution.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
We think it's clear in retrospect there are other times
when we could have gotten out too. The way we
finally withdrew was I think a tragedy. But yeah, lessons
from war are tough to learn. I don't know how
many it takes. I think it's worth That's why I
think it's worth watching our film Lessons to Remeters. We

(14:53):
don't make politically, we don't comment politically.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
We just show the battles. But you can see the
impact on people fighting, of shift and changing political goals
from Washington. So yeah, those are hard wars to fight.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I hope we don't get involved in a land war
in Venezuela or anywhere else.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
So far, Trump has been pretty effective in the way
he's been going at it, so he seems pretty conscious
of not being sucked.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Into a long war with unclear goals. So I hope
he has learned.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Of the infantry men that you interviewed for the last
six hundred meters, how much have you followed up with
them who are still around in present day?

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Michael, Well, you know, sometimes seventeen years to get this
film on the air, as I mentioned.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
And now on Amazon.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
And we had a screening in Washington where we invited
all veterans that were in the film, and a large
number came from around the country and it was really
inspiring to see them. I mean, now they're actually middle aged.
You know, a lot of time has gone by, but
there remain the same, you know, the wonderful examples of
American in these world men be came manhood, and you

(16:05):
know the one the Marines, especially that we're there.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
We're really as.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Gung ho as they were back in two thousand and four.
You know, they are very funny. They are believers that
if you give them a clear objective, you know they
can achieve it. And they did do that when such
objectives were given to them in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
So I mean a lot of them have had interesting lives.
Your time is done by.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
But they're all of them proud of their service. There's
not any of them that are, you know, extremely disillusioned
or anti American or were bitter about it, which is
surprising in a way.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
How long is the film.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
It's ninety minutes, and there are three battles, the first
battle of Flujah in Marsh, then this against Sunni and
surgeons in the north. The second battle is Najaff against
Shiite surgeons in the south, and then back to the
second attal Flujjah in the north again in November of
two thousand and four.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
And you know, these this film has great stories of heroism.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
People have always watched and listened to and read stories
of battles and war, from Homer's Iliad to War John
Wayne and World War.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Two movies to today.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
And that's because war really test men and you see
their spirit and their their will and ones that suffer
and difficulties. And you know, one of the reasons we
made this film is because these battles are not just
something there's a big focus on technology, but a lot
of it depends on the heroism of these young men
and women. For example, one marine lieutenant told the story

(17:45):
in n jaff A Splot of his being trapped underground
under these hotels, and they were encountering an insurgent and
such close quarters that neither of them could get out
there their automatic their rifles, and so it turned into
a knife fight. They pulled their bayonets, and it ended

(18:05):
when the marine was able to stab the insurgent in
the eye.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
You know, a brutal, vicious fight.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Not unlike what could have happened hundreds of years ago
in a rocket or anywhere else. So, although technology is important,
a lot depends on the valor of these young people
fighting on our behalf, Michael, So there's a lot of
that in the film.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Michael Pack the director and producer of the Last six
hundred Meters with us, President of Manifold Productions, and I
wish a great success with this, and I hope people
who are interested in the bravery and the commitment of
these people who fight on our behalf, so you can
actually see what they were going through and what they

(18:48):
went through. Michael, thank you so much for your time
today and happy New Year.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Happy to hear to you. Thank you for having me
on your show.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
You got it, Joshu Philip from the Epoch Times is
coming up. I'm Gary Jeff Walker in. This is the
Bill Cunningham Show. And if you were you know that
there are significant power outages in places like Mount Adams.
Still my work from Duke on when that power could
be restored. The high winds continue, the sub zero temperatures,

(19:18):
or at least feels that way. We're at twenty one
right now in Kenwood and much colder with the windshill
and some light snow was blown around earlier. What a
way to usher out twenty twenty five, huh, especially after
the weekend that was nice yesterday. Gary Jeff Walker in
for Willie. The Bill Cunningham Show continues on this last

(19:41):
Monday of the year on seven hundred WLW. And our
next guest is somebody I've had on the air multiple
times because he's really that good. He's an investigative reporter
for the Epoch Times and a documentary filmmaker and his
latest is Truth under Fire and I believe the SubTime
is the framing of Charlie Kirk. He will correct me

(20:03):
if need be, and he probably will he should. It
was featured at Amfest, the celebration of Charlie Kirk and
his movement, which continues to grow stronger and stronger in
the wake of his murder.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Joshua Philip from the Epic Times back with us, Joshua,
how are.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
You doing.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Doing well?

Speaker 6 (20:25):
Thank you?

Speaker 7 (20:26):
And yeah, getting close to the New Year's are getting
ready for that?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
No doubt? Truth under Fire. Tell me about the documentary
and what you were trying about.

Speaker 7 (20:35):
You got the name right, so thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
But yeah, it's so.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
The documentary was started with that idea that I wanted
to talk about the hip piece machine. There was a
system in place and still is to first to defame people,
to frame them for political purpose, to make people too
afraid to step out. Then it docked them, it releases

(21:01):
their private information. Then it organizes against them and TIFA
people showing up the doors that have as people protesting
their events, and sometimes leads to actual violence against them.
In Charlie Kirk's case, I believe led to the death.
I led to the killing of him. But what's not
being discussed by a lot of the public is, you know,
we look at the suspect, we don't we'll see innocenter

(21:23):
guilty but in the suspect right now, people have a
million conspiracies about you know, who done it. We don't
really know yet. It's still in trial. But I don't
think anybody's talking about the machine in place that I
believe marked Charlie Kirk for death. And the documentary aims
to show what that machine is and also goes into

(21:46):
what Charlie Kirk really represented. You know, I knew Charlie,
who's a fantastic guy. I regarded him as a friend.
It hit me pretty hard, But after his death there
was the beginning of almost a spiritual reawakening in America
that is still going on but is not getting a
lot of attention, and so I wanted to take time
to also recognize that. So the film also shows that

(22:08):
there have been.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
I don't know ten to maybe twenty times to one
hundred times the applications for chapters of Turning Point USA
at college campuses in the wake of Charlie's murder. You
talked about this spiritual reawakening that is happening that is
not being covered by the news. All the focus has

(22:32):
been I mean today, this morning, there was a hearing
as to whether there would be cameras allowed in the courtroom,
and Charlie's wife, Erica, is campaigning for those cameras to
be there. As she mentioned quite plainly, the cameras were
always on Charlie, and they were on Charlie the day

(22:54):
he was murdered at Utah Valley State Or Yeah, and
how do you come down on that alone, Joshua, I
know it's kind of separate subject from what we're talking about, but.

Speaker 8 (23:09):
I think, I use.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
Cameras are necessary. Yeah, I think the cameras are necessary
because you know, you know, we're in an odd day
and age where let's put a say, all information is
mediated these days unless people can see it firsthand. And
the unfortunate reality is a lot of the mediating voices
are not necessarily honest. So if the media, let's put

(23:34):
a say, if you or I could watch the video,
you know, at times, we'll of course try to have
a reporter in the courtroom regardless of outgoes, but not
everybody can do that unless you or I can watch
the video and see exactly what is said. We'll have
to rely on the interpretations of what was said from
other people. We'll have to go buy CNN or MSNBC

(23:56):
or New York Times or you know, a podcaster maybe,
and even some of the independent journalists have their own agendas, frankly,
and so in order to really know what was said,
in order to really understand the evidence presented, most people
are not going to go and read the entire list

(24:17):
of charges. Most people are going to read the entire
case law. They're going to depend on our people to
do it for them. But if you have a video,
they're more likely to watch it. The video will more
accurately present and have their social understanding of what actually
took place, what led to the killing of Charlie, and
the evidence presented on the suspect.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
We got you. Let's switch gears here for a second.
We'll get back to truth under fire, I promise before
we're done here. How do you feel about the coverage
of the obvious and looked over fraud in the state
of Minnesota. They're suggesting as much as nine billion dollars

(25:01):
has been defrauded from the taxpayers in Minnesota UH, mostly
to UH these Somali organizations, Somali terrorists, and and lavish
expenses for the people who stole the money from Minnesota taxpayers.
Right under Governor Waltz's nos that is getting probably more

(25:25):
coverage for some reason, uh than ordinarily it would. Do
you think, do you think it's getting the right amount
of coverage? Though I know Fox News has been just
laser focused on it, But how much how much time
is the other alphabet network spending on it and the

(25:48):
the other sources that you mentioned earlier.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
So my view on what's happening, but uh, is probably
a lot different from you're gonna what you're gonna hear
anywhere else. And I would say that my view is
now slowly showing itself to be true. What you're watching
in Minnesota is a test of prosecuting local officials who

(26:15):
have allowed for migrant fraud to take place all across
the United States. The Somali community is now being accused
You mentioned of at least nine billion so the summer
saying up to fifteen billion dollars in fraud. But the
reality is we don't even know. And it turns out
similar forms of just the Somali fraud is being found

(26:35):
in other parts of the country. The gay I believe,
I saw Ohio they even found some recently. But here's
the bigger part. Local government officials are being incriminated for
their involvement in it, whether it was turning a blind guy,
whether it was telling people, don't go after them, don't
investigate them, don't prosecute them, whether it was creating the

(26:57):
policies that allowed the fraud to happen. Governor Walls and
Rashid Ta Leab and local officials, they're all really facing
a lot of pressure right now. The bigger picture is this,
which I don't think you're going to hear anywhere else,
just that you're going to hear it eventually, but not
just yet. And I'll tell you all right now, this
is why it matters. The exact forms of fraud, the

(27:22):
exact protections, the exact same policies have been happening all
across the United States through various organizations and migrant groups
and illegal alien communities. And if they can prosecute not
only are the people involved with it and retake some
of that money, but also prosecute potentially even local government officials,

(27:47):
which they're talking about doing in Minnesota right now at
the very least criminally investigating them.

Speaker 6 (27:52):
What will that do?

Speaker 7 (27:54):
That will probably get sim of those officials out of office,
It'll make the entire political party look bad, especially ding
to the midterms. They could put someone who in prison. Frankly,
it will inform the American public of how badly they've
been robbed by fraud. It will justify the deportations, it
will delegitimize sanctuary city policies, and it could be the

(28:16):
wedge that Trump needs effectively to justify, prosecute, and overturn
a lot of the systems that's been blocking him from
doing all that. I believe Minnesota is a testing ground
of what you're going to see happen all across the country.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Oh, I hope that's correct. As as a taxpayer and
someone who's not participating in the fraud, I mean, yeah, well.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
If you're involved in the fraud Gipogo, you know, the
run while you can exactly. I hear Salia, I hear
Samalia is great.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
This time of here, it's a night and sunny, you
know problem.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
I'm sure. I'm sure illin Omar is just chomping at
the bit to get back there. On another front, communist
China is ratcheting up press You're on Taiwan again in
response to the US putting the clamps on Venezuela. The
oil blockade that President Trump has uh has instituted and

(29:12):
China Communist China has always wanted to retake Taiwan. I
think it's less likely they do with a president like
Trump in office. So I mean, is it naive to
blame communists China ratcheting up the pressure on Taiwan, I mean,
just as saber rattling because we are going after Venezuelan

(29:35):
oil and trying to shut down that regime there. What's up.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
No, I think it's actually more significant. I think I
think China, the Chinese Communist Party, might try to take Taiwan.
They have a very small window before America rebuild its
manufacturing base. Sijing teams made Advisor previously told him that
if they want to if they want to take Taiwan,
America needs to be involved in four wars including Taiwan.

(30:00):
They wanted to war with Russia, a warre in the
Middle East like think Youran, and they wanted to war
in Latin America. They wanted to actually Brazil to start
war under Lula the first time. Lula is currently backing
Maduro and so is you know, Columbia's even involved. So
if they can have a tries country force trying to
challenge America. That might be the proper division of American forces.

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They need to clear the way for it. But I
would also and they have a very limited time until
America gets ship building capabilities, rare earth minerals, steel, all
the industries we need to have wartime production, which we
currently do not have but is being built. They have
a very small window of time if they want to
do it. But I would actually say that venezuel is
also not about oil in China's interest, It's about them

(30:47):
in Roe doctrine. Chavez, the guy came before Maduro and
who handpicked Maduro, actually worked with Fidel Castro to basically
push America out of Latin America, and a lot of
that was correctly meant to overturn them in Road doctrine
to stop America from enforcing like a regional security for
all of Latin America. If they want to restore them

(31:09):
in Road doctrine and American presence in Latin America, they
have to overthrow Maduro. China was they use that as
their beachhead, and they effectively have been dominating Latin America
in America instead through the Delton Road initiative. And so
this is I think more of a battle over who
controls the region, and China is basically hedging its bets

(31:32):
right now, saying, well, gee, we need.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
To at least take the Asia Pacific.

Speaker 7 (31:36):
We have a very small window time to re establish
our dominance, our order, because America is running circles around us.
They don't have a wartime production. This may be our
only chance, and I think they might, more so than
ever before. They might try to do.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
Something right now.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
So twenty twenty six could be the year that communists
China makes their move.

Speaker 7 (31:58):
They might not have the ability to do it or win,
but it might be the best opportunity they have because
the window for it will will go away.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
And we've seen some things kind of turn around in
Latin America, haven't we uh in regards to Panama and
the Canal, in regards to Venezua Argentina, and so there
there is some pro American pro liberty presence in Latin

(32:31):
America in South America to kind of counter what Maduro
and Colombia and Brazil are doing, isn't there?

Speaker 3 (32:39):
There is?

Speaker 7 (32:40):
So in Brazil Lula Desulva, who's back in power, work
together for deel Castro also to establish what was called
the four alseal Paula, the form of sal Paula, and
that facilitated alongside what Jabez was doing with also Castro.
And and by the way, Castro was also i know,
to bring in a lot of the drug tray. Castro

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was kind of the you know, the one who really
brought a lot of the a lot of US into
Latin Americas because they were they were the front the
front line for the communist incursion into Latin America.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
But they need the regional allies.

Speaker 7 (33:15):
But what Lula did was they built the four House Aupaula,
which was a form of intergovernmental groups parties, even narco
Terroristbally I think a shining panther Fark was part of them,
a corich one to to facilitate what they call a
pink wave, which was the socialist government takeover of most
countries in the region between the late nineties and early

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two thousands and and a lot of that had to
do with money, political strategy, the whole nine yeards. Drugs
were part of it. Although they wouldn't openly admit that
drugs are a way to plant your candidate because you
use corruption effectively as a weapon.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
It's a political tool.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
If somebody runs against your guy, you have the cartels
kill him, very simple. You win the election. The guy
you had manipulates the law to clear the way for
whatever the heck you want politically, and and and they
used that effectively to push the US out of the region.
The oil trade was kind of a way to spread

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the wealth of Venezuela to facilitate to to support the
socialist governments taking power.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
And if Trump cuts and if Trump is able to
cut that off, then then they have you know, it's
kind of like Iran by uh and that those are
kind of inexorably tied together too. Iran and Venezuela. They
are in that way because if you cut off the oil,
you cut off their money supply and their ability to

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continue to to dominate in their regas.

Speaker 7 (34:45):
That's accurate, Yeah, that's accurate. So they're not ideologically motivated.
They're financial motivated.

Speaker 8 (34:51):
You know.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
The cartels are not like the Taliban where they're going
to you know, die for gi Hot. They're dying because
they want to make money. And so if you if
you make the risk greater than the reward, their ideology
is not strong enough to keep fighting as well as
basically an oil country and then a drug country post
the oil. The drugs are just a political tool for

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using corruption is a weapon, is a weaponized tool to
create government power.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Joshua Philip, once again, you're brilliant. I'm glad that you're
doing great work as an investigative reporter for the Epic
Times and with your documentaries, the latest documentary Truth under Fire,
the Framing of Charlie Kirk and josh Thank you and
happy New Year, sir oh.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
It is a pleasure.

Speaker 6 (35:36):
Happy New Year, you bet you.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Coming up after one o'clock War in the United States
in twenty twenty six, a guy who says it's prophesied
Pastor Mark Bilts from Elshadai Ministries coming up after the
news at one. I'm Gary Jeff Walker in this is
the Bill Cunningham show Stone Marathon this year. Happy ye're here.

(36:01):
Gary Jeff Walker is sitting in for Willie on this
last Monday of the year. And in this half hour
we'll be discussing maybe what President Trump and Benjamin Netanya,
who are discussing in mar A Lago right now, as
far as Gaza and what to do, what to do?

(36:22):
We might be discussing America at War, which our next
guest says, is either going to happen or is happening
right now. He's written a book about it. It's both
based on biblical prophecy and his expertise on the Middle East.
As you heard during the news if you were listening

(36:42):
or didn't know this already, Iran's president has declared full
out war on Europe, Israel, the United States and will
twenty twenty six be a year of more war to
try and answer those questions and break it down along

(37:04):
with the strike on Nigerian Isis. It was killing Christians
that has been killing Christians at a record rate, especially
in the northwest part of that country, where they have
a stronghold or at least had a stronghold before the
Christmas Day bombings by President Trump. From Elshadai Ministri's pastor
Mark Bilts, how are you doing, Pastor Bilts?

Speaker 6 (37:26):
Oh, I'm doing fantastic. I just love being on your program.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Well, I just love having you here. So first and foremost,
tell me about this America at War book that you
and I have talked about in the past, and it's
twenty twenty four to twenty twenty.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
Six right through twenty twenty six to twenty twenty seven.
Actually it's all through this next year, so.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
We are in that period of time. Are we already
at war?

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (37:55):
Absolutely, we're at war. Of course, it always depends how
you want to war. But I really see, and I
don't know if you've heard just it's just come out
a video where the Iranians are on the streets having
mass riots and the Iranian government has begged Arab full
Islamic Arab governments to come help them quiet this. So

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they're not as tough as they think they are. Something
big could be happening.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
This very weak right, but they have declared full out
war on the United States, Europe and Israel.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
And we already knew that.

Speaker 8 (38:33):
To me.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Iran declared war in the United States in nineteen seventy
nine when they took over our embassy, you know, sovereign soil,
took American hostages and held them for four hund forty
four days. That was a declaration of war that I
don't believe the United States ever answered sufficiently.

Speaker 6 (38:51):
Do you? You are absolutely correct, But they are Islamic
terror us. There's a radical Islamis and of course you're
moderate islamis As you heard just the other day, Somali
land was recognized by the nation of Israel, and oh,
my goodness, Tetter was all upset. Saudi Arabia is all

(39:14):
upset that here's a Maslem nation that is a precative
of Israel.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
So how how does the Bible tell this? Because I
know you use a lot of biblical prophecy in your predictions.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
Oh. Absolutely, it comes down from Exodus chapter seventeen, verse sixteen.
There was a nation that first attached Israel and they
left Egypt called him Amelek, and God himself said he
will have war with Amelek in every generation. Well, last
generation was Hitler. This generation, the Amelek is Iran. The

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very word Amelek means a nation who chops up body
parts toughs off heads, which is exactly what Hamas did
back on October seventh of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
And isis has been famous for doing the same thing.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
Absolutely, that's that is the spirit, And I really believe
prophetically this is the last battle with Amelek before the
Messiah comes. We are definitely living in these last days,
all right.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
So, but like you said, it depends on how you
want to interpret the word war there was there. There
have been plots foiled, there have been plots perpetrated. Are
these attacks just little battles in this war that continues
that we're seeing the terrorist attacks in the light?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (40:45):
I think so. I mean even right now, you have
the left against the right, that kind of a war
going on. You have the war against illegal immigrants going on.
I mean, there's a lot of you know, civil so
to speak, type of wars that are going on. We're
seeing bulls. But I really believe the problem with the
Nigeria thing that's happened. I don't know people know this,

(41:07):
but not only is it a wan Christians, there's also
a war on moderate Muslims. Over sixty thousand Muslims have
also been killed. What it is, it's radical Islam that
is causing death and it's happening worldwide. We see the
huge election of people here in the United States Islamis
that have been recently voted in, and we see Sharia

(41:32):
law that's coming in the city south of Dallas where
they're trying to implement that a whole Sharia city.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Okay, it wouldn't surprise me if it we're in Minnesota
or Michigan when there's a large Islamic population. But if
you say things like this, Mark Bilts, you're instantly cast
as an islamophobe. You're instantly you're instantly portrayed as someone
who thinks every Muslim is a terrorist. And that's not

(42:03):
what you're saying, That's not what I believe.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
But it is exactly I said that it's.

Speaker 6 (42:10):
Muslims for Heaven.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
Right, exactly. I mean Hitler killed lots of Germans that
weren't Jewish, exactly.

Speaker 6 (42:19):
I'm not an islamophobe at all. I am a phobia
against people getting their hips toped off. Okay, that's what
I worry about.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Not a big fan radical Islam.

Speaker 6 (42:29):
And there's nothing wrong with being a radical islamophobe.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, no doubt, no doubt about it. So how do
we how do we preserve ourselves in a time of
war like this? How do we protect ourselves? How do
we fight the battle that is coming or is already here.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
Oh, that's that's a that's a great question because I
think we have to realize it's more than a physical war.
It's a spiritual war that's going on. It's a war
between life and death. And this is where people have
to see it. Well. Too many Christians back down. They're
afraid to fight. And I really believe that this is
the time when we really have to stand up. This

(43:14):
is why the whole world bows to radical Islam because
they're afraid. I'm not afraid. I'm almost died so many
times I've lost count I'm seventy years old. I've had
guns at my head twice, been a major car accidents,
plain accidents, and I tell you I almost eat by
lions in South Africa. I'm not afraid of anything. I
realize if it's not my time.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Is not going to happen.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
So I'm ready to do everything we can.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Uh Ephesians six ten. Tony talks about putting on the
armor of God. And that's what you say, And it's
not just a physical battle, a kinetic battle that you
think of when a lot of people think of war,
but it's a spiritual battle. It says, be strong in
the Lord, in his mighty power. Put on the full
armor of God so that you can take your stand

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against the devil's schemes. Our struggle is not against flesh
and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against
the powers, of this dark world and against the spiritual
forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore, put on
the full armor of God.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
There you go. And this is why the Church is
settlements understanding that burst because they see the armor of
God is some Roman soldier costume. It's always been cast
that way, but you just wear spiritual warfare. I have
in one of my books the armor of God really
is the priestly garments. The priestly garments in Hebrew were

(44:38):
designed for warfare, and the breastplate wasn't a Roman soldier's breastplate.
It was the breastplate of the high priest for Heaven's sake.
And so the church has been That's why there's so many,
so much friendly fire and the church, they're all out
there killing each other instead of praying for one another.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
So what else do you talk about in America war
the book that I mentioned at the top of.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
The interview, Yes, exactly. And this is why people need
to get it now, because we're still going through twenty
twenty six. I'm the only one on this planet who
in twenty twenty three said that I Ran would attack Israel.
In April of twenty twenty four, even mentioned a month
and the day is the very day that I ran
started this. But anyway, I'm saying there's going to be

(45:25):
war here. I really believe you're going to see China
attacking Taiwan next year. I think you could see North
Korea attacking South Korea next year. I think with the
elections here this next year, you're going to see a
whole lot of civil warfare going on, and people need
to get rety, they need to be prepared.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Do do you think that, for example, the assassination of
Charlie Kirk was a part of this war.

Speaker 6 (45:50):
The spiritual warfare? Absolutely absolutely. The climate is changing, and
I see some Christians as starting.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
To rise up with all of this.

Speaker 6 (46:01):
So I'm really see the spiritual environment has changed, and
I think you're going to see it more, you know,
in another week or so. Once twenty twenty six hits
and people start focusing ahead, looking toward the elections and
everything that's going on. Even with Iran and Israel. There
is a total lunar eclipse coming up on Perum in March,

(46:26):
and I believe that's another indication we're very well could
see a war with Israel Iran in the US involved.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Today President Trump is meeting with Benjamin Nett and Yahoo.
You talk about the physical kinetic wars that are going
on and the battle that continues against Hamas. Why hasn't
Israel been allowed to go ahead and just totally take
out Jimas in Gaza? Do you think?

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Oh Man?

Speaker 9 (46:53):
Politics?

Speaker 6 (46:54):
Politics? You know, And my concern for Trump is that
he caves in and allows Turkey and Cutter to bring
in troops because they're not going to rebuild Gospa, They're
going to rebuild Moss and so I have a big
concern that our States Department and our government may allow
Hutter to come in, which Israel will not allow. So

(47:16):
I just hope that Trump doesn't cave in the terrorists.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Do you think that it was a bad idea for
President Trump to make deals with all these Middle Eastern
countries to try and end this conflict with Iran and
the further contract conflict with Hamas and Hezballah.

Speaker 6 (47:38):
I don't think there's anything wrong with it as long
as he stays within biblical guidelines. In my book, and
this is what it's so important. What most Christians can
be deceived by is the fact that King Solomon was
a type of Antichrist, not Christ. He even was the
first one who offered to Israel and half make a

(48:00):
two states illusion. He was willing to give half of
the cities in Galilee to Hiram, king of Tire, for
Heaven's sake. Uh So Solomon made peace, Yeah, but he
wasn't a good king. He made peace through making unbiblical covenants.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
So the wisdom of Solomon wasn't necessarily biblical wisdom, is
what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
It was horrible. As a matter of fact, you do
on revelation it says, here's wisdom. The number of his name,
you know, is six six six. Well, guess what is
recorded in the first King's four The amount of gold
that came into Solomon every year was six six, six
hundred talents of goals. There is a definite connection between
Solomon as an Antichrist not a Christ. And in my

(48:50):
I have several books, one of them decoding the Antichrist,
or I talk about that.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
All right. So but you're saying there are several Antichrists,
there's not just one.

Speaker 6 (48:59):
Well, yeah, and see the apostle John wrote in the
Third John that all the Antichrist came from within the body,
within the Church. People keep thinking that the Antichrist is
going to be a Muslim. Now he's going to be
a professing Christian. And I have a new book coming
out with chrismon June called The Final Tyrant and explain
how the Antichrist is going to be a believer, supposedly

(49:22):
a fake Christian and so that's why the church is.

Speaker 9 (49:25):
Going to be deceived.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
Who would be deceived by a muddler Antichrist? For Heaven's sake,
that's like saying, if you got one hundred dollars bill
with itold a face on it, you would fall for it.
How dumb?

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Well.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I've always said that the devil won't be some ugly
fire spitting beast, you got it it, It'll be a
beautiful woman in a pair of American jeans.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
No, they're very well good. But the key is they're
going to want a two state solution.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
That is, they keep talking about it, Yeah, keep talking
about it, and this is that that that's never gonna
work because no one side wants the eradication of Israel
and the death of all Jews, and the other side
just wants to live in peace. Those two, those two

(50:16):
are not compatible.

Speaker 6 (50:18):
Yeah, yeah, That's why they say, if Israel were to
lay down their arms, it would be no more Israel.
If i'm you know, if I'm lost down their arms,
there would be peace. I just appreciate you and your
knowledge of all of this. This is awesome, all right.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I really don't know anything. That's why people like you on.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Mark.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
I'm I'm learning at the feet of the master.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Here.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Mark Biltz is pastor El Shaudi Ministries. Where can people
find out more?

Speaker 6 (50:43):
Mark esm dot us for Elschadi Ministries e sm dot
us and they can go to Amazon and put in
Mark Biltson. They'll see all the different books.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
All right, fantastic. The latest one is America at War correct, Yeah, yes, sir,
twenty four to twenty and you say into twenty.

Speaker 6 (51:01):
Seven, oh, all the way through twenty twenty six. That
what I'm saying, not at the beginning of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
But through the end of the t Well what happens
after that?

Speaker 6 (51:11):
Well, I have other books, the Final Tyrant coming out
in tune. The other thing that I just don't believe
it or not. I've just written the entire New Testament
in Hebrew. Oh wow, and I have it in Hebrew
with the Hebrew transliteration, a first ever where people can
learn to speak Hebrew through reading the New Testament. And

(51:33):
then I made a lot of corrections from the King James.
But what's amazing about it. I have QR codes through it,
and so well, the Bible comes alive. You literally put
your phone over the book over a QR code and
a video pops up where I teached for about ten minutes,
or commentaries, yeah, or even the pictures come alive. You
put your the phone over the QR code and the

(51:54):
art even moves.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
That's wild, Okay, I'll look for that. Mark Belts pastor,
Mark Built's, Billshaudi ministries eesm dot us correct.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
Yes, yes, correct, and if you email me, I'll give
you one of those books.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
All right, thank you so much. Happy New Year. Maybe
first student report of the day coming up as we continue,
I'm Gary Jeff Walker and for Bill Cunningham on The
Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 10 (52:21):
Three hundred and fifty pounds. Burrow throws, Cody Ford catches,
He's down.

Speaker 6 (52:26):
To the fifteen, the ten.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
The five.

Speaker 11 (52:30):
He tackled around the three yard line, almost a big
man TD for the all time highlight reel as Burrow
threw it to Cody Ford and the wooly mammoth began
running down the near sideline.

Speaker 6 (52:53):
Hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
So we got Jamar Chase, we got g Higgins, we
got Josebach yep, we got Koseki yep. No offense, no
off we got Cody four, Chase Brown. Hold on, okay,
I've got a bunch of people that can test JP
Ryan if he's not too badly hurt. And now add
Cody Ford to the list of players.

Speaker 11 (53:25):
Something I've never been a part of, and today will
be with me for a long time, if not for
having How.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
How long before we see Cody Ford lining up at
full back and doing a refrigerator Perry act for the
I thought they were going to do it when they
when they are at the three judge, you know, hand
the ball off to Cody, but that Taylor said I
would to do that. So maybe this week they'll have

(53:51):
something up their sleeve and they get out to a
big lead, maybe a cap and off of the Cody
Ford touchdown run.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Perhaps correct night.

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Can you believe the Brown's taking care of the Steelers?

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Got that?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Yes, with everything on the narcial end of that one too,
But yeah, I know it's always in an AFC North game.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
So now it's the it's what the Steelers. I'll be quiet,
man and answer your question so I can get the work.
Thank you Steelers and Ravens Sunday the Alley Sunday Night,
the last game of the regular season in the national
football side. It all for all of the the AFC
North marbles.

Speaker 9 (55:15):
And that's how it should be.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
And so that'd bes said, I'll shut up and open
it up for questions. Thank you, coach.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
College football, Cincinnati Bearcats have hired David Roe as the
team's new cornerbacks coach. Roe spent the last two season Rutgers.
Of course, Gary jeff As, you know, the Bearcats are
going to take on Navy this Friday in the Liberty
Bowl in Memphis.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Did I know that? Yes? Okay?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman, of potential for the NFL
coaching vacancies, says no to the NFL. He's going to
return to the Fighting Irish in twenty twenty six college basketball.

Speaker 12 (55:51):
Because you are the first black head coach to go
to a national championship game in college football. Just hearing
that response alone, how much does this mean to you?

Speaker 2 (56:05):
I've said this before. I don't ever want to take
attention away from the team.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Thank you, Thank you. College basketball. The UC Bearcats take
on Lipscomb tonight out of Nashville. Hey, by the way,
seven and the Bisons are seven and five on the season.
They lead the a Sun Conference in the standings. Early
on in the Bearcats need to get with it six
thirty right here on seven, w all got.

Speaker 13 (56:33):
That stands up to make damn excuses like I ain't
ever gonna do it, Lipscomb, anybody that follows our program,
It'll never happen.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Easy to pick a pissed off I am. It ain't
ever happening.

Speaker 13 (56:44):
I'm never going to make excuses, Mike, but I'll talk
about challenges.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
So don't get the two damn things confused. Okay, I
was gonna say my my Vanderbilt Commodorees are undefeated, correct
uh and Lipscomb has been one of their victims. So
the the Bearcats better go ahead and take care of
business tonight.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
NKU is on the road up against Robert Morris Tonight's
six point thirty on the project.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
What else we got here, Let's see the step back
to the NFL.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
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that two game suspension, so he will thus get his
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(57:34):
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(57:54):
at eight, and all is well in the EHL, Gary Jeff,
because the league and the Professional Hockey Players of the
Union reached a deal over the weekend. They got a
new five years. Seal it and deliberate. The players are
going to ratify it today. They're going to return to
their teams. The Clones missed three games with the workstoppage,

(58:16):
two Friday and Saturday at home and one against Wheeling
on yesterday.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Do you know, if you name it, we like to
do it.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
They If they had not reached this deal, the EHL
players from the Cyclones would have been evicted from their
apartments January first, could have been it could have been
a big crisis that whole league could have folded, could
have been homeless because they all could have been home. Correct,
and not only them, but a lot of other teams.

(58:46):
I know, but the Clones will be back in action
Wednesday night against the Indie Field.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
I think the.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Better pay uh more time off, right, Uh? And they
to get better equipment, better helmets.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
I guess. So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I mean, but I think they get a twenty I
think I think I saw something that the pay gets raised,
like twenty percent, oh or something that raise not bad.
I've been here for thirty years and never had a raise. Yeah,
so you're a blind domb be fuddled fool.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Either as he well, they were already giving him half
the station anyway. Well, that's true, you're right about that.
It's wait, he's got a double wide in Florida. But
so the AHL is back, All is well, and everybody's okay.

Speaker 9 (59:37):
Sorr.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
There you go segment. If you would get us out
of the Studge report here, Gary Jeffery was on this
date in two thousand and two.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Yes, Senergy Field at Riverfront Stadium was imploded in front
of our eyes two thousand and two and nineteen eighty three,
Yes on this state. Yes, the Bengals hired their new
head coach, the one and only me, Sam Wish.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
You don't live it Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
There you go right there, if you read I was
gonna say it in honor of this Monday and a
happy New Year, early, Happy New Year to everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge report.

Speaker 11 (01:00:20):
Well, the next person that sees anybody throw anything onto
this field, point them out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I get him out of here. You don't live in Cleveland?
Was set that one time?

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Maybe this Sunday, Zach Taylor ought to grab the microphone
and say that just an honor of Sam Wish. See
if it happens. Probably not all right, you know, seven
hundred w B fur Ball and I found it in
between the couch cushions. There was some loose change.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Actually driving around because every time I seem to talk
to him, he's in his car. I think he lives
in his car. I'm not sure. The one, the only
Andy Furman. You hear him on Fox Sports thirteen sixty
every Sunday morning, also on Serious XM, and you also
when I'm lucky enough to have an extra show, hear

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him on the Nightcap, which I'm planning on having Andy
on Tomorrow night with me. And now he's here because
well I needed some help, and I needed help from
him because he's one of the pre eminent sports voices
ever on the airwaves in Cincinnati. And he's back again.
Andy Furman, how are you?

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
You know?

Speaker 8 (01:01:42):
I wasn't gonna go on with you. Honestly, I kind
of enjoyed the introt every week to get Loman alonga
but I listened to the segment's sport report, Yeah, and
he missed the biggest breaking story that's going on what
tomorrow night downtown Cincinnati. The Harlem globetrot is a coming
to town. It's their one hundredth year anniversary tool. All right,
And my good friend, the Angelique Waife, who played basketball

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collegiate basketball at Brooklyn's Long Island University, is a member
of the Washington Generals, And I'm going tomorrow night to
see the Angelique.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
How do you like that the team that always gets
beat by the Harlem Globetrotters.

Speaker 8 (01:02:17):
Well, they last won in nineteen seventy one in Martin, Tennessee,
one hundred to ninety nine. They've lost two thousand, four
hundred and ninety six consecutive games, including two games last
week in South Carolina.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
But is is the Angelique proud of this record that.

Speaker 8 (01:02:36):
Both of their last week? And since she's from Brooklyn,
there was a story in last week's Brooklyn Daily Eagle,
and she claims that there are many people that try
out for the Trotters. As she did try out for
the Trotters, they can be promoted from the generals to
the Trottas. And I believe that she eventually will be
a Harlem Globetrotter.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Without the Harlem Globetrotters, there would be no Savannah Bananas.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Is that true?

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
I agree? I agree.

Speaker 8 (01:03:00):
I mean, the the baseball version of the Globals. I
don't know where the Globe Trotters went.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
Off the rail.

Speaker 8 (01:03:05):
They were the biggest thing around, I mean, and I
don't know if basketball is not as popular or they
changed their their method of performing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I don't know, maybe the audience, Maybe the audiences have changed. Dandy,
did you ever consider that?

Speaker 8 (01:03:18):
I think kids love that. I'm telling you, kids love
to see that. I think they don't really play basketball
much anymore. They stop and they do games, and they
dance and they singing. Just play a game. Play the
game the way We're Metal Lock played and Sweet Lou
Lung Sweet Blue Dumb Bar played. They played basketball and
they were really talented and they even if they had

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the truck shots and stuff like that. Now they stop
every several minutes and it's not much of a basketball
game anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Really the hollerm Globetrotters were they were weren't they kind
of the the brainchild of a Jewish man named Abe Saberstein.

Speaker 8 (01:03:55):
Yes, Abe Stoprostine, Yes, and the and the team that
basically they're they're a nemesis. I guess you say in
the Washington Generals was formed by the one and only
late Red Clots red Klotz.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Red Klotz sounds like a medical condition.

Speaker 8 (01:04:13):
Andy, Well, I'm glad I don't happen then, really, so
you you were actually just a fouting to help out?
Could have said men, because really that's a big event
and you know what, they got a heck of a tour.
They've been around one hundred years, and I couldn't the
Fincinnati they are two performances tomorrow, I believe at two
thirty and like about seven o'clock at night, and honestly
I believe they sell out both, a big drawing spot

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for the club.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
I'm glad you said performances are not games, because they're
truly really not games. They never work.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Yeah they are.

Speaker 8 (01:04:42):
It's a it's a show, really. I mean, if you're
just the basketblas of the Shinado, don't go. If you
really want to be enter teams basketball wise and talent,
and these guys have talent and women that talent. I'm
excited about ball English. I haven't gone to see the
Trontas in a couple of years now. When I worked
at Saint Francis College of Brooklyn, uh, we were the
Terriers at the time. We had a couple of guys

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who graduated from basketball and did play for the Generals.
I went when I came to Cincinnati, but other than that,
I've stayed away. And that's about maybe eighteen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
So what you're saying, what you're saying you're is you've
always associated yourself with losers. Yeah, so professionals.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Okay, what is that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
What does that make me? Andy game?

Speaker 8 (01:05:25):
So betting on the game no one cares about.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:05:32):
The kid who was drafted by the Detroit Piston several
years ago went over to play in Turkey and now
he's going to play back to Balor again. I mean,
come on, really, he's a pro. He's getting pro And
that's another story for another day. I'll be to get
into that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Let's do that tomorrow night. The pros who are the
the the athletes who are not student athletes, they're all pros.
So what does it matter you get paid.

Speaker 8 (01:05:55):
You're a pro.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
But you know what, here's the deal.

Speaker 8 (01:05:57):
If you're getting get eeled money, I mean you considered
a pro, I.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Would say get money. I would say, I tell you what.
We will go into a further depth tomorrow night on
the Nightcap. How about that, Andy, I can't I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
I can't either because you can't spell. I may have
to call you.

Speaker 8 (01:06:14):
I may have to call you from the cloak though,
I'll go to they have to performance.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
They'll do that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
You can't spell Furman without f You just remember that
damn show Gary Jeffan for Willie. Last Monday of the year.
A blustery day, to be sure, wind chills in the teams,
winds up to thirty five or forty mile an hour

(01:06:40):
GUS power out places. Gee, sounds like winter around the
tri State. Anyway, we will brave it the best we
can in this half hour. Our guest is a New
York Times bestselling author, a former US Navy diver, and

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co founder of the US for the Number four Warriors Foundation,
and over the last dozen years they've been recognized by
Congress and the US Senate for helping nearly one hundred
thousand veterans in their families. That's always a good thing
in my book. And to talk about that and the

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project that he is embarked upon that you could help
with is William Craig Reid. William Reid, Good afternoon, and
welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. How are you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Jan great?

Speaker 9 (01:07:36):
Thanks for having me, No, thanks for being had.

Speaker 6 (01:07:39):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Happy New Year, just ahead. Hope you had a good Christmas.
I trust good Christmas.

Speaker 9 (01:07:45):
Absolutely. It's going to take me all year to diet
to get rid of everything I ate.

Speaker 6 (01:07:50):
But it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yeah, my blood sugar levels are through the roof. I'm
glad I don't have a doctor's appointment for the next
five months. I got time. So tell me about us
for a Warriors Foundation. What exactly you do to help veterans.

Speaker 14 (01:08:06):
Well, many years ago, we found that there were a
number of iMac infect thousands of veterans foundations that are
helping veterans in certain ways, but they were focused on
specific areas, and we decided that we wanted to be
able to help the entire veteran community and most important
to their families. Today, we've got about sixty percent of

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the US population has a.

Speaker 9 (01:08:30):
Relative of a veteran.

Speaker 14 (01:08:33):
But of course there are family members that are having difficulties,
and so we wanted to be able to reach out
to them, not only help them where they are, whether
that is for food or work or in other ways,
but also not just give them a hand out, but
also give them a hand up. And so that's what
the foundation is focused on for the past dozen years.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
So I mean as far as making them self reliant
instead of relying on someone else.

Speaker 9 (01:09:03):
Basically that's that's absolutely correct.

Speaker 14 (01:09:06):
So instead of just giving them a fish for a days, well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Fish for life. So you've launched a music fundraiser, tell
me how that works.

Speaker 14 (01:09:18):
Well, as you know, I had written a number of books,
but I've also written some songs many years ago. Some
of them I wrote when I was in the Navy
and recorded several one of them got picked up, never
went anywhere, but I put them on a shelf and
forgot about them. And my son actually introduced me to
AI music production. So I want to stress that I

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wrote the lyrics and the tunes, but then decided.

Speaker 9 (01:09:44):
To use AI to see if we could produce it
that way.

Speaker 14 (01:09:47):
Because we can't afford a studio band, and so we
now have thirty songs across three albums that we're using
as a fundraiser. So have some fun, some great music
I hope people like, and it's a way to get
the word out there, but also help our foundation help
more veterans this year.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
You say one song's even been optioned by an award
winning artist for national release.

Speaker 9 (01:10:13):
Yes, that's correct.

Speaker 14 (01:10:15):
So a really hot artist here in California, Presley Aaronson.
He's won a number of awards and also his latest
album features Grammy nominee Jimmy Allen, and he also has
one song with Russell Hitchcock, who's the lead singer Bear
Supply on some of his albums. He's up and coming,

(01:10:37):
and he is optioned one of the songs called Divided Lines,
and so that will be put out by him here
this next month.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I've got a friend who's a Nashville songwriter, published Nashville
songwriter has several hits that he has either written or
co written by other artists, and he sent me it's
odd that we're talking. He sent me last week one
of the new songs he's written, and he wrote the

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lyrics himself and had the melody down, but also didn't
have time to find a band to get it produced,
to demo it to other art to pitch it to
other artists, and he used AI and it sounded really cool.
I'm not a huge artificial intelligence fan, necessarily of it

(01:11:26):
taking over everything and reducing our humanity to you know,
a memory or something for the history books. But tell
me how you think I from your experience, how how
AI is reshaping music and broader more broadly, our lives.

Speaker 14 (01:11:47):
I was very skeptical when I started, too, and also
foundationally felt that maybe AI could be an issue. But
I I'm pleasantly surprised. But I think it's also very
difficult to produce something of great quality unless you really

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know what you're doing. It's taken me about a year
now to really understand how to do it, and I
have quite a bit of AI experience. You have to
understand how to prompt it, where the weaknesses, to ensure
that it's done correctly, but also your lyrics. It's really
important to get those correct because bad lyrics result in

(01:12:32):
bad outputs, and the tonation and your pacing and all
of that has to be just.

Speaker 9 (01:12:39):
Right in order for AI to do it correctly.

Speaker 14 (01:12:41):
I've learned all this over the past year and so
a lot of trial and error, but if you get
it right over time, you can actually come out with
something pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
Well, how did you go? And you wrote a lot
of these songs, you said while you were in the navy.
You've obviously always had an acute interest and some proficiency
in music. When did the music bug bite you?

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
Will you?

Speaker 9 (01:13:06):
Many years ago?

Speaker 14 (01:13:06):
My father was in the Navy, and for one of
my birthdays, when I was a young pup, he bought
me a guitar and taught me how to play, and
so that's when I got the bug. My sister also
has written a number of songs over the years, and
she also taught me some things. And I was in

(01:13:27):
choir when I was in high school along with her,
so I learned a little bit about singing. But I
wouldn't call myself a Grammy Award winning artist by any stretch.
But I did have a propensity to write stories, and
that's what songs are. There's stories in less than four minutes, basically,
and so that's I think the key to making a

(01:13:50):
good song is being able to write a story and
delivered that and in a very short purity time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Well, by the way, there are a lot of Grammy
Award winning artists that I wouldn't say I would give
an a hole. So just because you're not necessarily a
Grammy Award winning singer, that's okay. I myself have probably
been responsible for writing or co writing about one hundred songs,
of which ten or eleven I think are pretty good.

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I've never used AI, though it's been quite a while
since I've done anything new. How do you think veterans
are uniquely positioned to lead ethical AI adoption? As we
move at a gosh at a hypersonic pace towards AI
being involved in everything, how are veterans acutely positioned?

Speaker 14 (01:14:40):
Well, we've helped thousands of veterans of the years, not
only transition, but also through helping them in terms of
finding work and small business owners to get their businesses
off the ground and going. And what we found is
that obviously we come from a a difficult situation in

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many cases, but we've learned disciplines, and we've learned how
to follow orders, but we've also learned how to lead.
And then I've always laughed when veterans has said that
they were told by employers that they didn't have management
skills when they were leading thousands of other individuals through
combat zones.

Speaker 9 (01:15:23):
So yeah, of course they have leadership skills.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
I mean when you're dealing when you're dealing with life
or death, or you're dealing with the next big sales project.
I think if you've got experience leading people through life
and death situations, you can probably manage a sales pitch
or a boardroom.

Speaker 6 (01:15:45):
Well exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:15:46):
And I remember being interviewed by folks over the years
earlier in my career and they would ask me, can
you handle stress?

Speaker 9 (01:15:53):
I would laugh and say try being a navy diver
for a day.

Speaker 14 (01:15:57):
But I think better are uniquely positioned with AI because
of that past experience, Whereas others who maybe don't have
those kinds of foundations see it as fearsome. They don't
understand how this might be able to benefit their job.
They maybe think it'll take their job away. And veterans

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have learned to deal with that kind of fear and
to say, hey, you know what, let's see how we
can take that next hill correctly using AI. How can
it benefit us? How can it ensure that we have
better working situation and foundation. So I think they have
a unique position to be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
All right, Oh, now you just mentioned and this is
the question that's been on everybody's mind that's still in
the workforce. Which jobs, with your experience do you think
AI will replace or enhance? I mean, it's one thing
to enhance, but to replace that is the big worry
a lot of people have, and mine included. I mean,

(01:17:04):
they're doing so much with with audio and video. Now
that you know, video didn't kill the radio star, but
AI may. So what jobs do you think that AI
will replace or enhance? Because it certainly won't be jobs
like a plumber for example, or doing doing major construction.

(01:17:26):
I think that AI is going to overtake and those
jobs are very important, and as far as giving veterans
a hand up, teaching those kind of things is important
as well, don't you think?

Speaker 8 (01:17:40):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:17:40):
Absolutely.

Speaker 14 (01:17:41):
And one of the companies that was launched based on
the science that I wrote about, it's called Herman's Science.
It's all one word, Herman Science that provides junior tove
AI training courses. And that's my recommendation to those who
fee year for their jobs is to learn how to

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embrace AI. It's not going away, obviously, and there's not
much you can do about what jobs are going to
be replaced. But if you learn how to properly prompt
and use AI and use it in your work experience,
and you get certified through a course like this, like
with therm and science, et cetera, then you can position

(01:18:26):
yourself to be able to move into those positions where
those skills are critical and they're getting very high salaries
and they're in great demand. So learn how to use
AI properly across all kinds of disciplines, from marketing to sales,
to accounting.

Speaker 9 (01:18:46):
To even coding.

Speaker 14 (01:18:48):
Now, if you use those skills properly, you can not
a keeper job, but get better jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:18:54):
How long were you in the Navy and in what
period of time will you?

Speaker 9 (01:19:01):
Six years?

Speaker 14 (01:19:01):
And during the Cold War, so not long before there
wasn't a Cold War, So during that period of time
I was in and served the board submarines as well,
but also as a navy diver.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
One of your best selling books that I was just
kind of caught my eye here as we're talking, is
a book called Spies of the Deep that you wrote
without the aid of AI. I'm assuming the untold truth
about the most terrifying incident in submarine naval history and

(01:19:38):
how Putin used the tragedy to ignite a new Cold War.
Tell me about that just for a moment, if you would, yes.

Speaker 14 (01:19:46):
And that was written before AI had the scene right
in the way it's being used now, So.

Speaker 9 (01:19:52):
No AI used there.

Speaker 14 (01:19:53):
But the prequel to that was the book Read November,
which was more about the the Cold War, what happened
during the Cold War and some of the top secret missions.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
And so on.

Speaker 9 (01:20:05):
Spies of Deep Is call it a sequel to that book,
and it.

Speaker 14 (01:20:09):
Is more about post Cold War and starting with the
loss of the submarine Curse, which went down in August
of two thousand and What most people don't know is
that for a year prior to that, the curse went on,
a number of missions got right up close to one

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of our US carriers.

Speaker 9 (01:20:32):
And Putin used that to campaign.

Speaker 14 (01:20:35):
He went from about two percent of the vote to
fifty two percent plus of the vote within six months
by campaigning on what the curse did and saying he
was going to bring back the military and bring back
greatness to Russia. He obviously won and then the curse
went down in August, and then he actually use that

(01:21:01):
to further his campaign, but he wrested control from the
oligarchs and the energy companies, used those billions then to
fuel his own wealth, but also to refuel Russia's wealth,
and that reignited the Cold war that we are currently in.
And if you don't think we're in a cold war,
you're not paying much attention to the news.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
No, and they threatened to make it hot all the time,
just depending on who's in office and who's rattling the saber.
What's your latest book? Will you your most recent?

Speaker 14 (01:21:39):
Yes, I'm now writing some business books and so my
latest book is called Start with Who, and if you've
ever read Simon Sinex Start with Why.

Speaker 9 (01:21:50):
Great book.

Speaker 14 (01:21:51):
This is taking that to the next level and it
talks about business storytelling and using neuroscience in that area.
Have a number of things related to veterans and also
the military and how it's been used in the military
in many aspects.

Speaker 9 (01:22:09):
So that's the latest book. That's how to Start with Who.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
How would you describe the music that you produced with
the help of AI. What kind of genre would you
say it fits into if it fits into any genre
at all.

Speaker 14 (01:22:23):
It's across number of genres, from rock to pop, a
little bit of alternative rock. Actually wrote co wrote a
couple of songs with my son, he's a little more
in alternative rock. And then we have some country with
a little bit of Christian overtones into that as well.
Cool and some singer songwriter. One song I wrote for
my mom after I went to the Navy, one song

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I wrote about the curse that submarine that I mentioned
that went down, and one song about nine to eleven.
And then we have a Christmas song about based on
a true story about young girl who's missing her father
who served me. We have one song that's a cheer
jerker and that's also based on a true story about

(01:23:08):
a gentleman who lost his brother who was a Navy
seal when he was serving the overseas well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
You say, this is a music fundraiser for US for
Warriors Foundation. How can people help?

Speaker 14 (01:23:22):
So the songs are not quite available yet. There's one
song that is posted that you will be able to
find in the next week up on iTunes.

Speaker 9 (01:23:32):
It's called Into This Silent Night. That's the Christmas song
that I mentioned, and we got it out for Christmas.

Speaker 14 (01:23:40):
The rest will be available early to mid January, and
you'll find them on iTunes, Spotify, et cetera, wherever you
want to go and.

Speaker 9 (01:23:49):
Really to learn more about it.

Speaker 14 (01:23:51):
We're looking for sponsors right now, and that website is
Music the Number four Warriors Music for Warriors dot org.

Speaker 9 (01:24:01):
Music four Warriors dot Org.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Okay, you can learn.

Speaker 14 (01:24:04):
More about the project there and we're looking for some sponsors,
so need help there would be appreciated, and then shortly
thereafter the songs will be available as well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
Okay, well, definitely, I wish you great success in the
new year, and thanks for spending some time with us today.
That's William Reid. It's US four Warriors Foundation. Music for
Warriors is where you would find this AI enhanced music.
Thanks man, have a great new year, take care.

Speaker 9 (01:24:37):
Thank you and you as well.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
All right. Fantastic stooge two on the way in moments.
I'm Gary Jeff Walker. In This is the Bill Cunningham Show.

Speaker 10 (01:24:47):
Pounds, Burrow throws, Cody four catches, he's down to the fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
And the ten the five.

Speaker 11 (01:24:56):
Tackled around the three yard line almost a big man
TD for the all time highlight Reel as Burrow threw
it to Cody Ford and the wooly mammoth began running
down the near sideline.

Speaker 6 (01:25:17):
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Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
God, you're very disappointed in Cody Ford. I mean he
needs to learn to finish seg he should have crossed
the golden one. Dude, I just need to get the ball.
It's to the white tip there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
You know, some guys out of the way, but not enough.
So that was a play of the game though. That
was something that was something that was something to see.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Joe Burrow another nice game again yesterday Chase looked at
another guy and thought, well, Cody Ford, here it comes
right exactly and bingo.

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Bengals Line Lance and Lapping Company at six o five
here on seven hundred WLW. College Basketball, the UC Bearcats
take on Lipscomb tonight at the fifth Third Arena, six

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thirty year on seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 13 (01:26:40):
The Bisons This man, I ain't never going to be
the guy that stands up and makes damn excuses like
I ain't ever gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Okay, okay uh.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
The Bison's come to town out of Nashville at seven
and five on the season David stands.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
I remember when David Lipskin was an n i AA school.
There you go, and they played all kinds of you know,
Trebeca Nazarene or whatever on the schedule of the night.
Ever since they jumped to Division one, they have made
the tournament I think a couple of times a year.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
KU's an Action tonight up against Robert Morris six point
thirty on the Project. Going back to college football, the
Bearcats and Scott Sanderfield have hired David Rowe as the
team's new cornerbacks coach. He has spent the last two
season in Rutgers and Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman, a
potential candidate for the NFL coaching vacancies. He's returning to

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the Irish in twenty twenty six. Segman, did you see
any of that game last night? The Bears are sleeping
and the Bears in the Eagles try to shootout a
Bearsdell had a chance at the end for about the
eight hundredth time this season. Caleb Williams is mister comeback,
mister fourth quarter, and they almost got it done last night.

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But it was absolutely must watch viewing if you're an
NFL football. Monday Night football should be a classic tonight
the Rams and Falcons at seven on Fox Sports, thirteen
to sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
If the Falcons win, there's a chance that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
That whole division, that whole division is still up for
grabs between Tampa Bay and Carolina College football, Ohio State
getting ready to battle those Miami Hurricanes Wednesday night and
the Cotton Bowl and the football playoffs and the Cotton Bowl.
Actually with the buckeyser right here Wednesday night at seven
hundred across the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Board, finish it off having guts.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
No.

Speaker 8 (01:28:38):
I like to know where Lou Holtz is right now,
what he said about our team.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
What he said about our team, I cannot believe.

Speaker 9 (01:28:46):
This is a tough team right here.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
We're proud to be from Ohio Pro.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Tell EHL and the professional hockey players at Union reaching
a deal over the weekend, a new contract to five years.
Players return to their teams today. The Clones missed three
games due to the work stoppage, and they'll get back
the regular season action.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
So the players basically missed about six dollars and thirty
five cents.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
The Clones are back home Wednesday night on New Year's Eve.
I wonder if they get paid any against the fuel.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Yo ho oh no, yo ho oh no. So I
don't know, but Ehl's back in business. I ask you
a question. You've seen the TV commercial where they're making
fun of people who yell at the TV as if
the players can hear them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Right, it's a Geico ad or something right. That's always
baffled me, and yet there have been times I've done it.
You've got to admit you've done that before. Have you
yield at the TV, at a at a referee, at
a coach or something while you're watching game, as if
they could actually hear you correct. Probably one of these

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days they will, knowing the technology we have as AI developed.
You never know, that's true. You have that reciprocal back
and forth. I don't know, Gary, Jeff, But good luck
to the Bearcats tonight. NKU and Robert Morris on the
project and we'll see what happens. All right, Big week
for Ohio State and Indiana plays on Thursday on New
Year's Day, and the Bearcats play in the Liberty Bowl Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Are you going to a big party on New Year's
Eve to ring in the New Year's seg man?

Speaker 8 (01:30:24):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:30:24):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
What do you usually do nice and quiet at home? Yeah? Yeah,
I mean, do you drop a ball or anything?

Speaker 9 (01:30:31):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
The Ladies back list?

Speaker 6 (01:30:34):
Do you dance with.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
No Jeff Brantley, No, do you dance with Denise to
Guy Lombardo at midnight? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Down the hallway of our home, right into bed? Yeah no, no, no,
you're into the living room. Do you stay up for
the New Year? No, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
I don't know yet.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
That's a very good question. Well, probably both asleep. I
got about seven, So there you go. Okay, segment, we'll
get us out of the studge report. Gary jeff An
honor of a what was a warm day now a
cold day. We leave you with the immortal words of
the Stooge Report.

Speaker 6 (01:31:15):
Seriously, anotless monkey could do your job.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Okay, segment, Happy New Year, brother, name to you say everybody,
We'll see you soon.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Seven hundred w lw Oh wait a minute, we got
somebody else on the line here. Who is this? Oh

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it's the wild Man.

Speaker 9 (01:31:48):
That's me.

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
Hi, wild Man, you're on the air. What's going on?
Don't worry, You're safe?

Speaker 15 (01:31:54):
Well happy but latest sixty fifth birthday, my man?

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 15 (01:32:00):
I wanted to be part of your party. I mean
if in fact, I would have probably him and came
up to the studio, but I ran into some cell
phone problems that almost caused the city to be in
a mass panic.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Well, I'm sure you not having a cell phone would
cause great pandemonium all over the tri state. Wild Man,
there's no question.

Speaker 15 (01:32:19):
It did with my son and my friends because they
didn't know they could.

Speaker 9 (01:32:21):
They didn't know what was going on.

Speaker 15 (01:32:23):
I mean the Hamilton County sheriffs, three of them showed
up here at my house.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
I heard about that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Yeah, they were doing a welfare check because nobody could
get ahold of you, including me last week.

Speaker 15 (01:32:36):
Right, yeah, yeah, but all is well got a brand
new phone. It works great. Now let's move on Bengals.
Let's talk with me about the Bengals, because I know
time is short here and I got to get in
my case a goo because I got a major case
of it. But the Bengals win yesterday was nice. Hopefully
they can finish up the season with three wins in
a row. So much for so much for the talk

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about the Bengals tanking to get a draft pick. And
I know there was a guy that.

Speaker 9 (01:33:01):
Sometimes you have on the air.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
I'm not going to mention his name, but he went.

Speaker 15 (01:33:05):
On and posted that the Bengals should tank the rest
of the season to get a better draft pick, that
Joe Burrow shouldn't play. And Joe Burrow yesterday threw cold
water over everything and said, I like playing football. I
like being out there with my guys quarterback. It doesn't
it wants to play football.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
It doesn't matter what order you pick in the draft.
It's drafting the right player for your team that's available.
It doesn't matter if you've got the first pick in
the draft or the fifth pick or the eighth pick,
which I guess is where the Bengals are right now.
I wanted to ask you before you go into any
more diatribes because I'm hoping that we'll have a double

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dose of the Wild tomorrow on my nightcap. But so
say you don't want me there, you don't have to
get it all out at one time. I'll ask you
the question I asked seg. There's a commercial on where
people are being made fun of because they're yelling at
the TV as if the players and the coaches can

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hear them.

Speaker 5 (01:34:03):
Do you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Wild man?

Speaker 15 (01:34:06):
I yell at the announcers like John Sadsack won't shut.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Up, but they still can't hear you.

Speaker 15 (01:34:12):
I know, I know, I think I know you probably
do it. Everybody doesn't. Everybody doesn't, and if they say
they don't, their liar, they're liars.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
I'm doing a lot. I'm doing it less and less
as I've come to realize that I don't have a
smart TV that's got a microphone that's going to go
directly into their booth as they're calling the game.

Speaker 15 (01:34:34):
Well, a lot of times I'll just comment they'll say
something stupid, like the hands team is on the field
and just waiting for them to say that, because that's
that's part of their vocabulary. I go, really, really really
thanks for telling me that. Or you know, they're down
by five points and they'll say a field goal doesn't
help them, Like, oh, thanks, thanks for that information. I
couldn't add Without you, guys, I'd be lost.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Yeah, but you have you ever have you ever just
yelled run run run? Come on you dummy, ron? What
do you stump?

Speaker 4 (01:35:04):
No?

Speaker 15 (01:35:04):
No, I never do that. I've never done that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:06):
No, go ahead, go ahead, No, it's all right. My
only other question for you, wild man, something I've always
wanted to know because you often talk about a case
of the goo.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Now do you order this gou online? Is it delivered
right to your house? Can you buy gou at a
brick and mortar store or at Walmart or anywhere else?

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
How does the goo come to you? Wild man?

Speaker 15 (01:35:37):
It comes inside you. It comes inside, It builds up
inside the human body, and that gets to a point
where you just got to release the goog?

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Can you can you actually define what the goo is?
Because I've always wondered.

Speaker 15 (01:35:51):
It's been a little a little, a little unhappy, a
little angry a little mad. So goo is angry, really mad,
maybe really mad. When you get a major k of
the goos, you really.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
Mad a lot of anger in that particular Ye.

Speaker 15 (01:36:04):
Have you ever had just just just just blame o?

Speaker 6 (01:36:08):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Have you ever had just a minor case of the goo?
Does it always uh develop into a large tub of goo?

Speaker 15 (01:36:17):
I've had a minor case of the gou, but usually
it develops into a major case. Well, what I've got
a major case, but I guess I'll save it for
you for tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
Well, no, we can. We can actually tease the gou
that you will deliver into the tries like the tri
State needs more goo?

Speaker 6 (01:36:35):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
You you have a case of the goo. About the
reds Hall of Fame.

Speaker 15 (01:36:41):
The Red Hall of Fame for inductees, I have a
major case on who got in and who should be in?
Which is a joke and who shouldn't be in? I
mean that the veteran of the Red Hall of Fame
is a great you know, is a great organization. They
do so much with the community as a great museum.
Well let's the Cooper's down. Ain't nothing better.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Let's go through the picks just real quick, and you
can elaborate expound upon that tomorrow night, if you'd like
Brandon Phillips, yes or no?

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (01:37:09):
That was that was that was a no brainer.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
So there's no gu about BP.

Speaker 15 (01:37:15):
No I voted for I voted for Brandon Phillips.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
All right, sweet Lou, Well, that was by the.

Speaker 15 (01:37:22):
Veterans Committee and that was that was a no brainer too.
I mean we didn't know who the Veterans Committee was
going to put on there, but Lou Panela. I mean
he had a winning record, he won a World Series.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
Okay, so no, come on, man, no gu with with Lou.

Speaker 15 (01:37:35):
I mean like Dave Bristol's in the Reds Hall of Fame.
Now while he never won a World Series or repennant
with the Reds, he did. I think I have an
overall winning record as a manager, but you got to
put Lou in there. Aaron Harang absolutely not losing record
e r a of over four. I mean you're putting
a guy with a losing record.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Into the Reds Hall of Fame, all right, Reggie sam.

Speaker 15 (01:38:03):
That's the biggest joke. Can you tell me one thing,
Gary Cheff, that Reggie Sanders did and you remember him
poor other than fighting Dennis Martinez or Pedro Martinez. Can
you tell me one thing he ever did?

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
I'm sure there was some timely hit, some some stab
in the field he made that saved an inning, I'm sure.

Speaker 15 (01:38:26):
Maybe, or to be in the Reds Hall of Fame.
I mean there was two seasons or he only played
eighty one games. Two seasons he only played eighty one games.
He hit one hundred and twenty five home runs?

Speaker 9 (01:38:37):
Whoop he do?

Speaker 15 (01:38:39):
Did you ever see his postseason batting record and the
two division zero? Okay, all right, horrible, all right, horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
All right, that's that's enough on on the urinating all over.
Reggie Sanders wild Man. We'll save the rest for tomorrow night,
so save up some more goo. Let me ask you
another question that I asked said, okay, will you will
you drop the ball on New Year's Eve? Or will
you be fast asleep when twenty twenty six knocks on
our door?

Speaker 6 (01:39:05):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (01:39:06):
Well, I was supposed to go to this place out
in Redding on Wednesday, but I think that's up in
the air. I may just stay here at the house
and watch the Ohio State lose to Miami, and it'll
make my It will make my New Year really nice.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Well, oh you're not. You're not a big Buckeye fan,
are you.

Speaker 15 (01:39:23):
Oh I've never been a Buckeyes fan. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 9 (01:39:26):
Man?

Speaker 15 (01:39:26):
I spent six months in Columbus.

Speaker 9 (01:39:28):
I'll never get back.

Speaker 15 (01:39:30):
Oh I heard was Ohio State.

Speaker 6 (01:39:31):
Ohio State.

Speaker 15 (01:39:32):
Hey, Tierry Jeff there's still crying that you see beat
him in the basketball title?

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
Well that was what sixty five years ago?

Speaker 15 (01:39:40):
Yeah, they're still crying and they're still crying.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
Uh, I've got to balance this with a shout out
to a Buckeye fan who actually graduated from Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
Well, I know is listening. I want to say hello
to the oil baron of Brown County, Doug Bonnson, who was.

Speaker 15 (01:39:56):
Well, you know who was lou b There's a great
it took place on this in nineteen seventy eight.

Speaker 6 (01:40:03):
It was a great day.

Speaker 15 (01:40:04):
It was a great day.

Speaker 6 (01:40:04):
I loved that it was at a buddy's house. It
was New Year's Eve.

Speaker 15 (01:40:07):
This was what against Clemson on Woody Hayes punched Charlie
Bowman and the next day Woody Hayes was fired. Boy,
that made my New Year.

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
You're a heartless soul.

Speaker 15 (01:40:19):
He was a big sore loser, big sore loser, loudmouth
wild man.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
We'll talk to you tomorrow night.

Speaker 15 (01:40:25):
So talk to you tomorrow night. I'll have the case
of the goo really fired up.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
Yeah, get some extra goo, get some industrial goo. Thank
you and thanks for putting up with me today and
for Willie uh and I have no idea. It's the holidays, Russ.
Do you know who's on next? Dan Carroll and Jason
Williams Where jaywill will be here in rocking Eddie Stead Next,

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I'll be on tomorrow night at nine God willing another
night cap coming your way with a fresh show except
for stay wild Man Goo here on seven hundred WLW