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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Billy Cunningham, the great American, Welcome this Wednesday afternoon in
the Tri State. A little bit of rainy. We need
a little bit of Wednesday and Thursday. Things are going
to be clear on Friday for Halloween. But until then,
all hell's breaking loose. Of course, I monitor all the
shows so you don't have to. MSNBC is blaming the Republicans,
mainly Congressman Warren Davidson, of everything happening bad in the world.
You watch the other shows, and basically it's the idea
(00:30):
that the Congress has voted to fund food stamps that
went down the tubes. Then the Congress voted to fund
the military. Democrats didn't like that. And Republicans have offered
a one year continuance of the Biden budget and the
Democrats don't want that. So what the hell do they want?
As Charlie Kirk often said, when the talking ends, that's
when violence begins. Joan you and I now is Congressman
(00:51):
Warren Davidson. I think of the eighth Congressional District and
Congressman Davidson, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. So
what does the congressman do when nothing's going on? On. You're
out of session, not much happening, and Mike Johnson's called
your backs and not called your back. So what do
you do if anything.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, it's always an honor to join you and your listeners,
Willie and Look, it's pretty similar to normal, except you've
got less structure to your time. I mean, I'm working
on bills with colleagues, working in particular on an outbound
investment bill this morning, back and forth with several colleagues
and staff. I was out in DC last week, met
with White House on that and a couple other bills,
(01:29):
met with Senators on some of these things. And so
you're still doing some of the same kinds of collaboration.
In a way, it's you get bigger blocks of time
to focus on other bills. So you're trying to make
lemonade out of limits I mean, and the limits are
handed out by Democrats. We've called the votes. The House
of Representatives has voted to fund the government, yes, which
is why we're not in session. We're waiting on the
Senate and we can't really proceed until they decide how
(01:52):
they're going to proceed. And they've offered everything in the
world to Democrats. But look to be fair, Democrats have said,
here's our list of demands, one and a half trillion
dollars worth of stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
They know they're not getting.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
No, you know, we didn't accidentally defund usaid. We didn't
accidentally turn off their ability to take credit for funding
with state dollars but get reimbursed from the federal dollars
for funding illegals with Medicaid money. We didn't accidentally. We
didn't accidentally do these things. And frankly, they didn't accidentally
set expiration dates for the COVID funding on Obamacare.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You know, it was a bill that passed with one.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Hundred percent Democrat votes, just like Obamacare did in the
first way. And they're just trying to continue the subsidies
because Obamacare failed. It isn't affordable, and it doesn't work.
It works in fact the way that we've said that
it was designed to, which is a poisoned pill to
destroy American healthcare and deliver what they want, which is
single payer communist healthcare.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
All right, let's talk about First of all, I want
to have out his issue number two. It Issue number
one is snap what's our food stamps? In twenty nineteen,
which wasn't exactly. The dark age is twenty nineteen. US
government spent fifty six billion dollars on food stamps in
twenty nineteen. Now the number is one hundred and two billion.
It is more than doubled in the last five years. Now,
(03:10):
I did a little research from the US Budget Office
about who gets food stamps. How about this one. Food
stamps by ethnicity. Afghans forty five percent, Somali's forty three percent,
Iraqis thirty five percent, Dominican Caribbean Islanders twenty eight percent,
the Native Americans is twenty five percent, Puerto Ricans twenty
(03:32):
seven percent, Cubans twenty five percent, Cambodians twenty three percent.
Can you smell when I'm cooking? Essentially, may I raised
my hand in the back of the room. The cost
of food stamps have more than doubled, and it's the
ethnicity of those receiving it. Many here illegally, but waiting
for a hearing has increased greatly. So when you show
(03:54):
up somewhere and you can say I claim refugee status,
I want a hearing, the officer will say, well, are
you available in the year twenty two? Yes, I am
available in the meantime, here's your list, your menu of
government benefits. We are funding the world. Plus there's a
twenty percent factor of waste, fraud and abuse. So if
we go back to twenty nineteen levels along with the
rate of inflation, we should spend about sixty billion dollars.
(04:17):
Instead we spend double that.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I mean these are things that Democrats designed. And frankly,
the unfortunate part is a lot of this is embedded
in status quot funding. So this is why Republicans are
compromising with status quot funding, because the real policy is
we want to go way different than that. Now, the
big thing that we did back in the summer was
we said, look, if you're able bodied, working age adult,
(04:42):
you don't have dependent kids at home, well then you
got to go to work eventually, you know, you got
to get a job, go to school, volunteer, do something
that used to be bipartisan.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And frankly, when I pull it in the eighth district,
it is bipartisan.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
But nationally Democrats say, oh, you know, we can't expect
that that's totally unreasonable.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
But knowing full well, that's exactly what they would do
for a friend and family member.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I don't know the ethnic breakdown on everybody, but the
troubling numbers I think it's about fifty three percent of
the food staff dollars are going to non citizens, correct,
which is crazy, correct, it's crazy correct. So our compassion
is bankrupt in our country. And it's to the Democrats
that designed this. It's a feature, not a bug. I mean,
they designed the invasion of our country and they're mad
(05:25):
that we're trying to turn it off. So that's a
lot of what this fight is about. And I think, look,
in the meantime, there are Americans who need food stamps.
They do need the assistance, and it's designed to be there.
It's a safety net because you know, God forbid anyone
could run into a time of trouble or need and
then your friends and family are there, of course directly,
(05:46):
but you've got a government program that says, yeah, your
whole community is there. We don't want you to stay
that way. But it's meant to be a hand up,
not a snare to trap you in a system of dependence.
And so we need to make it work better. But
in the meantime, it is going to work at all
if we don't get the.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Votes, so you bring it up. Fifty three percent of
food stamps go to non citizens, and a good chunk
of those. I know for my years working in the
Public Defender's office here in Hamilton County that these things
are also currency. So if you're issued your EBT card,
you issued your so called food stamps, you sell them
for fifty cents on the dollar to make money, to
make cash. And if it's a ten to twenty percent factor,
(06:24):
the cost of food stamp should be less than half
of what it is today. But the media, what doesn't
the media cover this the way you and I just did.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, it's rare.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I mean, you'd see like John Stossel or somebody like
that would occasionally get the truth out on one of
these programming things. But those kind of spots are rare
at this point. Main when they did food stamp reform
back years ago. Of course, it's been undone since then
because the Democrats got in control of their state and
undid it.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But they put a photo id.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
On food stamps and they started cracking down on the
places that we're doing just what you say. They'll have
a nvenience store or something out there and there'll be
you know a little bit of groceries on the store,
but the store isn't.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Designed to sell groceries.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's designed to process EVT cards and fifty cents on
the dollar sometimes is optimistic.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Whatever the I don't know what the black market.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Rate today is, but I'll bet you Keith favor our
auditor is because those are the kinds of things that
our auditor goes after in our attorney general in our state. Look,
I think our state does a better job than most,
but the fraud's real. There's a real black market out there.
People are selling them for money. Yeah, and the big
big thing is all this inflates grocery prices. So yeah,
(07:36):
it's fair to say grocery prices are higher. So if
you're going to help somebody, it probably takes more to
help them, you know, this year than it did in
twenty nineteen. But if you look, you know, specific programs
like that where you might have to make some changes.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
But if you look holistically, if the.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Federal government spent the same money that we spent before COVID,
we'd have a balanced budget. We wouldn't even have deficits.
And people go, wow, you know, we can't do that
because inflation. You're like, well, let's go back to what
causes inflation. When you do this massive government spending, it's
injecting extra money into the economy. And the food stamps
is exactly a way. If the market price had to
(08:12):
cover the forty one million people what they can afford
to pay for groceries, how would groceries not be lower?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
They would be lower.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Well, an important factor is this that, whether it's food
stamps or Obamacare, whatever it might be, when the federal
government gets involved, I can guarantee you that the subsidies
increase the demand, They raise the prices, causing more inflation,
There is less deductibility and more waste, fraud, abuse, and
increase spending that area. It is guaranteed that's going to result.
(08:41):
So food stamps will be resolved. So I'd like to
ask you this question. Since if we took the budget
from twenty twenty increased it by inflation, we'd have a
balanced budget today. But we're spending about i don't know
about forty percent more forty five percent more in the
federal government than we spend in twenty twenty with less results.
And so instead of reforming the system, even you Republicans
(09:03):
keep saying, well, let's keep the same system. We'll kick
the can down the road for another year. Well, we'll
give you the same Biden budget. And the Democrats do
won't even vote for that. And so make clear this point,
if we spent justin for inflation, the same amount of
money we spent in the twenty nineteen twenty twenty cycle,
we'd have a balanced budget today, not having to borrow
(09:24):
two trillion dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Is that correct, That's.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Accurate, and that's the kind of agenda that we want
to get on. And that's where russ Vote at omb
put out the president's budget. And look in the meantime
without us taking action, you look at what russ Vote
is pairing back and what are he's saying, Look, we
need to furlow these people, and these people need to
be at work today. It's going to line up with
(09:47):
what the president's budget is. This is the priority, this
isn't the priority. And so in a way they've got
an open hand. But in the long run, yeah, the
people that are at work today will eventually get paid, but.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
But they should get paid today.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And that's a bill that we put on the floor
in the Senate Republicans put it on the floor in
the Senate just to try to break the logjam in
the Senate to get to sixty votes, and of course
then it would have to come back to the House
because it would be changed, but we would pass it easily.
And this is if you're essential enough to be at
work this week. Surely the payroll clerk is essential enough
to be at work and you can get paid on time.
(10:24):
But Democrats voted that down, and you know, they don't
want to fund the whole government, and then they don't
want to part the fund the paired down quote. The
essential part and the fact that people run into suffering,
whether it's because they don't get their paycheck on time,
or the food stamps aren't mailed, or contracts aren't being
let all these kinds of things that we need for
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the federal government to do. Catherine Clark, who's the Democrat Whip,
one of the senior leaders for Democrats in the House,
she says this suffering is part of their leverage, so
they know that these are going to be consequences, and
they're counting on this in their mind. It's going to
make people want to pressure Republicans to fold and concede
(11:05):
to this one and a half trillion dollars wish list
that isn't going to happen.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
So they're going to fold.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
The matter is how long, and so we've offered some
alternatives where we could just try to do it purely
with Republicans, but this is part of what they want too.
They wanted to break the filibuster rule but for Joe
Mansion and Kristin Cinemon, they would have broken it in
the Senate now, and Republicans feel like that's a decent
safeguard to make sure that there is some sort of
bipartisan consensus in governing the country. Democrats are ready to
(11:32):
abandon it, and they want to take They want Republicans
to take the blame for breaking it, but they want
it broken.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well, the Democrats want chaos now. Next year they're run
on a campaign slogan of chaos and Democratic behavior calls
the chaos, and I think many Americans don't understand that fact.
A little bit of statistics indicate that one hundred and
sixty million Americans rely upon employee or sponsored insurance you
have medical care. And according to that number, one hundred
(12:00):
makes the million Americans like here here at the Death Star. iHeartMedia.
Most of our employees are on employer sponsored plans, and
those on employer sponsored plans say seventy five percent of
Americans say their coverage they receive through their employer is acceptable.
It's not the best, not the worst, but it's acceptable.
Twenty two million Americans are on Obamacare, and those individuals
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get subsidies from the government directly and indirectly. I want
to talk about Marjorie Taylor Green, MTG. She makes about
two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars a year. The
great bulk of that income comes through her job as
a US congressman in Georgia, about twenty five thousand. She
has three children. She gets Obamacare subsidies. Can you tell
me why someone making about a quarter million dollars a
(12:43):
year as the federal government paying part of their premium,
can you tell me that.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Well, here's the thing. They don't ever publish it. Everyone
says Republicans should or Congress should have the same healthcare
as everyone else. Well, if we did that, we'd have
employer sponsored care, and that's used to be how Congress work.
We had the same healthcare plan that federal employees do
you know your employer. Federal government employees, not just Congress,
(13:08):
had essentially the same benefits plan. But back when they
were pushing Obamacare through, they said, oh well, then Congress
should have Obamacare. So we are on the DC Health Exchange,
and I will tell you, look, I had better health
care at the small business in manufacturing, and it was
a pain in the butt. The healthcare system is broken,
(13:29):
but Obamacare is breaking it worse because it was designed
to do that. And yes, Congress is suffering under Obamacare.
It isn't the greatest. We got a high deductible plan
six thousand dollars on top of premiums that are on
average about four or five hundred dollars a month more
than what we would be paying for the same kind
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of plan as a federal employee. Make it make sense.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, according to the study, I see that if you're
a family of four. Hardly anybody's a family of four anymore.
But if you're a family of four, you have to
spend approximately twenty seven thousand dollars a year with deductibilities
before you get any coverage at all. Twenty seven thousand
is five or six thousand dollars per person. A family
of four in the case about twenty twenty five, twenty
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six thousand before anything kicks in. How's that a good plan.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It's not a good plan. It's not a good plan.
And look, I was talking with a financial advisor back
years ago and it was probably I don't know, four
or five years after Obamacare passed, and he goes, why
don't you have why don't you have health insurance companies
as an ETF, And I go, I really don't know.
I haven't really looked at this closely. And he goes
he goes, well, you need to add that, because here's
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how they're going and if you look at their share price,
it's been almost vertical, just like health insurance costs. So
the health insurance companies are making amend and that's who
these subsidies are going to in their COVID subsidies. So
the plus up the Democrats. They couldn't make them permanent.
They didn't have the votes to do it on a
party line basis when they did it back in twenty
twenty one, So they made them so they expire, and
(15:04):
because they couldn't even get it across the finish line,
so now they want Republicans to deliver what they failed
to do in their own right. But this was for
a pandemic press release wise, but on the back end,
it was just basically the extortion money to pis say
to the health insurance companies, hey, if we give you
this straight pipe of extra cash, will you hold the
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premiums down a little bit? And that's essentially the play now,
and the insurance companies are cooperating with it. They're starting
to mail out notices to say, oh, you know, if
you don't pay the protection money, your premiums are going
to double.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So this is money directly from the taxpayer into the
pockets of Obamacare insurance companies. We all know the big
three or four names, and they get a direct pipeline
of money from the Congress every year in order to
encourage the insurance companies to hold down the premium increases
that Tony Bender pays for as a taxpayer.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That's the plan that you're starting to catch up what
Obamacare is about and what these subsidies are for. And
it's just absolutely crazy, and so Republicans aren't going to
go along with it. And in part to make sure
that Republicans don't go along, with it, Speaker.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Johnsonson on just stay out of town.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Don't be compromising with these guys, because we usually have
you know, maybe what President Trump is called pannikins that
will run to the mics and be ready to compromise
with Democrats at a whim and say no, no, we're
not for this.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Don't change your principles here.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
There are things that we do agree on and we
can work together, but we're not gonna work. There's never
been a Republican vote for Obamacare. I mean, McCain famously
failed to get rid of it right, but he didn't
vote for it. And now they want, for the first
time ever, Republicans to run out and say, oh, we
can't wait to do more Obamacare in a crazy position.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
The great majority of us receive healthcare through our employers,
and most of us like it. Government controlled healthcare means
less choice, high deductibilities, competition, and lower quality, which is
the heart and soul of the Democratic approach to legislation.
Write those four things down. So many other issues, so
little time. By Warren Davidson, Congressman, Thanks for coming on
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the Bill Cunningham Show, and we'll see what happens. But
don't cave, don't give in, don't listen to Marjorie Taylor Green.
Let's have assystem based upon laws of supply and demand.
Got lower premiums, better quality, Get rid of Obamacare. It stinks. Congressman,
once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And you're a great American. Thank you always an honor.
GeV bless you and all your listeners. God bless America.
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Billy Cunningham, the great American, Welcome this Wednesday afternoon in
the Tri State. A little bit of rainy. We need
a little bit of Wednesday and Thursday. Things are going
to be clear on Friday for Halloween. But until then,
all hell's breaking loose. Of course, I monitor all the
shows so you don't have to. MSNBC is blaming the Republicans,
mainly Congressman Warren Davidson, of everything happening bad in the world.
You watch the other shows, and basically it's the idea
(00:30):
that the Congress has voted to fund food stamps that
went down the tubes. Then the Congress voted to fund
the military. Democrats didn't like that. And Republicans have offered
a one year continuance of the Biden budget and the
Democrats don't want that. So what the hell do they want?
As Charlie Kirk often said, when the talking ends, that's
when violence begins. Joan you and I now is Congressman
(00:51):
Warren Davidson. I think of the eighth Congressional District and
Congressman Davidson, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. So
what does the congressman do when nothing's going on? On. You're
out of session, not much happening, and Mike Johnson's called
your backs and not called your back. So what do
you do if anything.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, it's always an honor to join you and your listeners,
Willie and Look, it's pretty similar to normal, except you've
got less structure to your time. I mean, I'm working
on bills with colleagues, working in particular on an outbound
investment bill this morning, back and forth with several colleagues
and staff. I was out in DC last week, met
with White House on that and a couple other bills,
(01:29):
met with Senators on some of these things. And so
you're still doing some of the same kinds of collaboration.
In a way, it's you get bigger blocks of time
to focus on other bills. So you're trying to make
lemonade out of limits I mean, and the limits are
handed out by Democrats. We've called the votes. The House
of Representatives has voted to fund the government, yes, which
is why we're not in session. We're waiting on the
Senate and we can't really proceed until they decide how
(01:52):
they're going to proceed. And they've offered everything in the
world to Democrats. But look to be fair, Democrats have said,
here's our list of demands, one and a half trillion
dollars worth of stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
They know they're not getting.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
No, you know, we didn't accidentally defund usaid. We didn't
accidentally turn off their ability to take credit for funding
with state dollars but get reimbursed from the federal dollars
for funding illegals with Medicaid money. We didn't accidentally. We
didn't accidentally do these things. And frankly, they didn't accidentally
set expiration dates for the COVID funding on Obamacare.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You know, it was a bill that passed with one.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Hundred percent Democrat votes, just like Obamacare did in the
first way. And they're just trying to continue the subsidies
because Obamacare failed. It isn't affordable, and it doesn't work.
It works in fact the way that we've said that
it was designed to, which is a poisoned pill to
destroy American healthcare and deliver what they want, which is
single payer communist healthcare.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
All right, let's talk about First of all, I want
to have out his issue number two. It Issue number
one is snap what's our food stamps? In twenty nineteen,
which wasn't exactly. The dark age is twenty nineteen. US
government spent fifty six billion dollars on food stamps in
twenty nineteen. Now the number is one hundred and two billion.
It is more than doubled in the last five years. Now,
(03:10):
I did a little research from the US Budget Office
about who gets food stamps. How about this one. Food
stamps by ethnicity. Afghans forty five percent, Somali's forty three percent,
Iraqis thirty five percent, Dominican Caribbean Islanders twenty eight percent,
the Native Americans is twenty five percent, Puerto Ricans twenty
(03:32):
seven percent, Cubans twenty five percent, Cambodians twenty three percent.
Can you smell when I'm cooking? Essentially, may I raised
my hand in the back of the room. The cost
of food stamps have more than doubled, and it's the
ethnicity of those receiving it. Many here illegally, but waiting
for a hearing has increased greatly. So when you show
(03:54):
up somewhere and you can say I claim refugee status,
I want a hearing, the officer will say, well, are
you available in the year twenty two? Yes, I am
available in the meantime, here's your list, your menu of
government benefits. We are funding the world. Plus there's a
twenty percent factor of waste, fraud and abuse. So if
we go back to twenty nineteen levels along with the
rate of inflation, we should spend about sixty billion dollars.
(04:17):
Instead we spend double that.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Why is that?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I mean these are things that Democrats designed. And frankly,
the unfortunate part is a lot of this is embedded
in status quot funding. So this is why Republicans are
compromising with status quot funding, because the real policy is
we want to go way different than that. Now, the
big thing that we did back in the summer was
we said, look, if you're able bodied, working age adult,
(04:42):
you don't have dependent kids at home, well then you
got to go to work eventually, you know, you got
to get a job, go to school, volunteer, do something
that used to be bipartisan.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And frankly, when I pull it in the eighth district,
it is bipartisan.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
But nationally Democrats say, oh, you know, we can't expect
that that's totally unreasonable.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
But knowing full well, that's exactly what they would do
for a friend and family member.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I don't know the ethnic breakdown on everybody, but the
troubling numbers I think it's about fifty three percent of
the food staff dollars are going to non citizens, correct,
which is crazy, correct, it's crazy correct. So our compassion
is bankrupt in our country. And it's to the Democrats
that designed this. It's a feature, not a bug. I mean,
they designed the invasion of our country and they're mad
(05:25):
that we're trying to turn it off. So that's a
lot of what this fight is about. And I think, look,
in the meantime, there are Americans who need food stamps.
They do need the assistance, and it's designed to be there.
It's a safety net because you know, God forbid anyone
could run into a time of trouble or need and
then your friends and family are there, of course directly,
(05:46):
but you've got a government program that says, yeah, your
whole community is there. We don't want you to stay
that way. But it's meant to be a hand up,
not a snare to trap you in a system of dependence.
And so we need to make it work better. But
in the meantime, it is going to work at all
if we don't get the.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Votes, so you bring it up. Fifty three percent of
food stamps go to non citizens, and a good chunk
of those. I know for my years working in the
Public Defender's office here in Hamilton County that these things
are also currency. So if you're issued your EBT card,
you issued your so called food stamps, you sell them
for fifty cents on the dollar to make money, to
make cash. And if it's a ten to twenty percent factor,
(06:24):
the cost of food stamp should be less than half
of what it is today. But the media, what doesn't
the media cover this the way you and I just did.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, it's rare.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I mean, you'd see like John Stossel or somebody like
that would occasionally get the truth out on one of
these programming things. But those kind of spots are rare
at this point. Main when they did food stamp reform
back years ago. Of course, it's been undone since then
because the Democrats got in control of their state and
undid it.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
But they put a photo id.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
On food stamps and they started cracking down on the
places that we're doing just what you say. They'll have
a nvenience store or something out there and there'll be
you know a little bit of groceries on the store,
but the store isn't.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Designed to sell groceries.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's designed to process EVT cards and fifty cents on
the dollar sometimes is optimistic.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Whatever the I don't know what the black market.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Rate today is, but I'll bet you Keith favor our
auditor is because those are the kinds of things that
our auditor goes after in our attorney general in our state. Look,
I think our state does a better job than most,
but the fraud's real. There's a real black market out there.
People are selling them for money. Yeah, and the big
big thing is all this inflates grocery prices. So yeah,
(07:36):
it's fair to say grocery prices are higher. So if
you're going to help somebody, it probably takes more to
help them, you know, this year than it did in
twenty nineteen. But if you look, you know, specific programs
like that where you might have to make some changes.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
But if you look holistically, if the.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Federal government spent the same money that we spent before COVID,
we'd have a balanced budget. We wouldn't even have deficits.
And people go, wow, you know, we can't do that
because inflation. You're like, well, let's go back to what
causes inflation. When you do this massive government spending, it's
injecting extra money into the economy. And the food stamps
is exactly a way. If the market price had to
(08:12):
cover the forty one million people what they can afford
to pay for groceries, how would groceries not be lower?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
They would be lower.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Well, an important factor is this that, whether it's food
stamps or Obamacare, whatever it might be, when the federal
government gets involved, I can guarantee you that the subsidies
increase the demand, They raise the prices, causing more inflation,
There is less deductibility and more waste, fraud, abuse, and
increase spending that area. It is guaranteed that's going to result.
(08:41):
So food stamps will be resolved. So I'd like to
ask you this question. Since if we took the budget
from twenty twenty increased it by inflation, we'd have a
balanced budget today. But we're spending about i don't know
about forty percent more forty five percent more in the
federal government than we spend in twenty twenty with less results.
And so instead of reforming the system, even you Republicans
(09:03):
keep saying, well, let's keep the same system. We'll kick
the can down the road for another year. Well, we'll
give you the same Biden budget. And the Democrats do
won't even vote for that. And so make clear this point,
if we spent justin for inflation, the same amount of
money we spent in the twenty nineteen twenty twenty cycle,
we'd have a balanced budget today, not having to borrow
(09:24):
two trillion dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Is that correct, That's.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Accurate, and that's the kind of agenda that we want
to get on. And that's where russ Vote at omb
put out the president's budget. And look in the meantime
without us taking action, you look at what russ Vote
is pairing back and what are he's saying, Look, we
need to furlow these people, and these people need to
be at work today. It's going to line up with
(09:47):
what the president's budget is. This is the priority, this
isn't the priority. And so in a way they've got
an open hand. But in the long run, yeah, the
people that are at work today will eventually get paid, but.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
But they should get paid today.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And that's a bill that we put on the floor
in the Senate Republicans put it on the floor in
the Senate just to try to break the logjam in
the Senate to get to sixty votes, and of course
then it would have to come back to the House
because it would be changed, but we would pass it easily.
And this is if you're essential enough to be at
work this week. Surely the payroll clerk is essential enough
to be at work and you can get paid on time.
(10:24):
But Democrats voted that down, and you know, they don't
want to fund the whole government, and then they don't
want to part the fund the paired down quote. The
essential part and the fact that people run into suffering,
whether it's because they don't get their paycheck on time,
or the food stamps aren't mailed, or contracts aren't being
let all these kinds of things that we need for
(10:45):
the federal government to do. Catherine Clark, who's the Democrat Whip,
one of the senior leaders for Democrats in the House,
she says this suffering is part of their leverage, so
they know that these are going to be consequences, and
they're counting on this in their mind. It's going to
make people want to pressure Republicans to fold and concede
(11:05):
to this one and a half trillion dollars wish list
that isn't going to happen.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
So they're going to fold.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
The matter is how long, and so we've offered some
alternatives where we could just try to do it purely
with Republicans, but this is part of what they want too.
They wanted to break the filibuster rule but for Joe
Mansion and Kristin Cinemon, they would have broken it in
the Senate now, and Republicans feel like that's a decent
safeguard to make sure that there is some sort of
bipartisan consensus in governing the country. Democrats are ready to
(11:32):
abandon it, and they want to take They want Republicans
to take the blame for breaking it, but they want
it broken.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Well, the Democrats want chaos now. Next year they're run
on a campaign slogan of chaos and Democratic behavior calls
the chaos, and I think many Americans don't understand that fact.
A little bit of statistics indicate that one hundred and
sixty million Americans rely upon employee or sponsored insurance you
have medical care. And according to that number, one hundred
(12:00):
makes the million Americans like here here at the Death Star. iHeartMedia.
Most of our employees are on employer sponsored plans, and
those on employer sponsored plans say seventy five percent of
Americans say their coverage they receive through their employer is acceptable.
It's not the best, not the worst, but it's acceptable.
Twenty two million Americans are on Obamacare, and those individuals
(12:21):
get subsidies from the government directly and indirectly. I want
to talk about Marjorie Taylor Green, MTG. She makes about
two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars a year. The
great bulk of that income comes through her job as
a US congressman in Georgia, about twenty five thousand. She
has three children. She gets Obamacare subsidies. Can you tell
me why someone making about a quarter million dollars a
(12:43):
year as the federal government paying part of their premium,
can you tell me that.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Well, here's the thing. They don't ever publish it. Everyone
says Republicans should or Congress should have the same healthcare
as everyone else. Well, if we did that, we'd have
employer sponsored care, and that's used to be how Congress work.
We had the same healthcare plan that federal employees do
you know your employer. Federal government employees, not just Congress,
(13:08):
had essentially the same benefits plan. But back when they
were pushing Obamacare through, they said, oh well, then Congress
should have Obamacare. So we are on the DC Health Exchange,
and I will tell you, look, I had better health
care at the small business in manufacturing, and it was
a pain in the butt. The healthcare system is broken,
(13:29):
but Obamacare is breaking it worse because it was designed
to do that. And yes, Congress is suffering under Obamacare.
It isn't the greatest. We got a high deductible plan
six thousand dollars on top of premiums that are on
average about four or five hundred dollars a month more
than what we would be paying for the same kind
(13:49):
of plan as a federal employee. Make it make sense.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Well, according to the study, I see that if you're
a family of four. Hardly anybody's a family of four anymore.
But if you're a family of four, you have to
spend approximately twenty seven thousand dollars a year with deductibilities
before you get any coverage at all. Twenty seven thousand
is five or six thousand dollars per person. A family
of four in the case about twenty twenty five, twenty
(14:14):
six thousand before anything kicks in. How's that a good plan.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
It's not a good plan. It's not a good plan.
And look, I was talking with a financial advisor back
years ago and it was probably I don't know, four
or five years after Obamacare passed, and he goes, why
don't you have why don't you have health insurance companies
as an ETF, And I go, I really don't know.
I haven't really looked at this closely. And he goes
he goes, well, you need to add that, because here's
(14:41):
how they're going and if you look at their share price,
it's been almost vertical, just like health insurance costs. So
the health insurance companies are making amend and that's who
these subsidies are going to in their COVID subsidies. So
the plus up the Democrats. They couldn't make them permanent.
They didn't have the votes to do it on a
party line basis when they did it back in twenty
twenty one, So they made them so they expire, and
(15:04):
because they couldn't even get it across the finish line,
so now they want Republicans to deliver what they failed
to do in their own right. But this was for
a pandemic press release wise, but on the back end,
it was just basically the extortion money to pis say
to the health insurance companies, hey, if we give you
this straight pipe of extra cash, will you hold the
(15:24):
premiums down a little bit? And that's essentially the play now,
and the insurance companies are cooperating with it. They're starting
to mail out notices to say, oh, you know, if
you don't pay the protection money, your premiums are going
to double.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So this is money directly from the taxpayer into the
pockets of Obamacare insurance companies. We all know the big
three or four names, and they get a direct pipeline
of money from the Congress every year in order to
encourage the insurance companies to hold down the premium increases
that Tony Bender pays for as a taxpayer.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That's the plan that you're starting to catch up what
Obamacare is about and what these subsidies are for. And
it's just absolutely crazy, and so Republicans aren't going to
go along with it. And in part to make sure
that Republicans don't go along, with it, Speaker.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Johnsonson on just stay out of town.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Don't be compromising with these guys, because we usually have
you know, maybe what President Trump is called pannikins that
will run to the mics and be ready to compromise
with Democrats at a whim and say no, no, we're
not for this.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Don't change your principles here.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
There are things that we do agree on and we
can work together, but we're not gonna work. There's never
been a Republican vote for Obamacare. I mean, McCain famously
failed to get rid of it right, but he didn't
vote for it. And now they want, for the first
time ever, Republicans to run out and say, oh, we
can't wait to do more Obamacare in a crazy position.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
The great majority of us receive healthcare through our employers,
and most of us like it. Government controlled healthcare means
less choice, high deductibilities, competition, and lower quality, which is
the heart and soul of the Democratic approach to legislation.
Write those four things down. So many other issues, so
little time. By Warren Davidson, Congressman, Thanks for coming on
(17:11):
the Bill Cunningham Show, and we'll see what happens. But
don't cave, don't give in, don't listen to Marjorie Taylor Green.
Let's have assystem based upon laws of supply and demand.
Got lower premiums, better quality, Get rid of Obamacare. It stinks. Congressman,
once again, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
And you're a great American. Thank you always an honor.
GeV bless you and all your listeners. God bless America.
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