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Speaker 1 (00:07):
By Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, the murder,
the assassination of Charlie Kirk has shaken the nation to
some extent, maybe not as much as all of us
would like, because it appears that about one third of
the American people consider that to be a good thing,
believe it or not. In fact, there's a new an
NBC News poll that one third of self identified Democrats
one third say political violence is sometimes necessary against some
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political opponents. That's one third. That's tens of millions of
people who kind of think political violence might be acceptable. Jonan, you,
and I now has Gabe Guiderini. He is the field
representative for Turning Point USA here in Ohio. And Gabe,
welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
before we got onto the politics of the day, can
you tell me the impact and the effect that the murder.
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I call him the Saint Paul of the twenty first century.
Charlie Kirk had on the movement as at this point
about six weeks out.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, it's just been and thank you for having me on.
It's just spending an incredible, you know, moment for the
whole team. It's been a really tough two months for
the whole team, and really what we've been trying to
do ever since what happened on September tenth is to
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try to ignite something in people from what Charlie started,
to help his memory live on. And that's what I
believe we're going to be working to do, especially in
the run up to twenty twenty six, and especially after
what happened last night, especially for young people like myself.
It was hugely impactful what happened. It was it was
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a huge wake up call, and I think that there
needs to be more of a message translated to more
young people and more people of all age groups about
what happened and about what this means for the country.
Because we saw what happened last night with Jay Jones,
who fantasized about murdering a Republican lawmaker and his children.
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We saw what that meant for you know, he didn't
face any consequences for it. So we have to message better.
We're going to continue to fight for what Charlie built,
and we're going to continue to try to live up
to his legacy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh J Jones. That just briefly, J Jones said things
like three people I only have two bullets. I have
my political opponent, a guy named Gilbert. I got Adolf
Hitler and I got Paul Pott. That means the Republican
gets two shots in the head, and that means Hitler
and pol Pott must live. He also talked about watching
his political opponent's children die in their mother's arms, and
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most of the pundits said, about Jay Jones in Virginia,
you know what that guy's done. Not only did he win,
he won by four percentage points, and so political assassinations
are acceptable and rhetoric concerning them to a chunk of
the Democratic Party today and to me of all the
result else a mom Donnie winning in New York City
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and Mikey Cheryl winning in New Jersey, those weren't shocks.
But when when the chief law enforcement officer two years ago,
when he was in the General Assembly in Virginia, talks
about murdering your political opponent and watching his children die
in their mother's arms as two kids almost I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Don't know what to say.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Was that a shock to you more than anything else?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, it was a shock, And I didn't really realize that.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
We had come to this point until now.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You know, a lot of people have been talking about
how radical the left has become and how radicalized the
Democratic Party has become. We kind of saw it a
lot after September tenth with the reaction that a lot
of them had, which was very vile to Charlie Kirk's assassination,
but we didn't really think that it would translate to
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votes correct Democratic Party. And in many way ways it's
it's really you know, it can draw a lot of
pessimism to the point where we now recognize that in
many cases the time for debate has ended, and in
many in many you know, in many ways, what we're
seeing right now is that they're not looking to have
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a debate with us. They're not looking to understand our position.
They're focus on vitriol. They're focused on vitriolic rhetoric, and
they believe, and many of them do believe, that Republicans
already are an inherent threat to their life and there's
no reasoning with that. You cannot talk about taxes and
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you know, all the actual issues that Republicans campaign on
to people with that type of mentality, Republicans have to
dig in and this is what turning point action has
been doing I work for Turning Point Action, which is
the five to one C four electoral wing of Turning Point.
We're not focused on debating the left, focus on beating
them in elections and swamping the ballot boxes with voters
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who are fed up with what's going on with Democratic
politicians across this country. And we're just going to keep
doing it, and we're going to build up more infrastructure
so that we can get more people out to vote.
Republicans are just not enthused to vote when Trump isn't
on the ballot in the same way that the Democrats
are fixated on every single person who has a Democrat
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label by their name. And this is kind of the
Republican parties, you know, we're kind of honorable to a fault.
Right Republicans, they pick and choose their candidates. They care
a lot about the quality of their candidates. Democrats will
vote for any vile, vitriolic person with a D by
their name at the ballot box. We have to make
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sure that our voters know who's on the ballot, what's
at stake every single election cycle, and that takes turnout.
And when Trump isn't on a ballot, we have to
build the infrastructure to be able to get good people
out to vote. That's what we're focused on doing.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Gaba Guynerini. The turning point USA Field Rep. When someone
like Mom, Donnie and I don't know if you're up late,
but I'm kind of a newsgeek and I watched the
whole thing last night. He's yelling and screaming at large
numbers of New Yorkers in New York City attacking Donald
Trump from New York City. I watched our mayor have
to have peer of all. Much of his speech was
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all about Donald Trump. Donald Trump is Satan andcarnate. He's
the boogeyman. They run against him in the city of Cincinnati.
They run against Donald Trump. And the fact that Donald
Trump's half brother was on the ballot meant that Donald
Trump was on the ballot. And the only way we
can win is a Republican democracy is to have and
informed electorate that understands past the hype that the Republican
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Party stands with the three things Charlie Kirk believed and
above all else. Number one is God Almighty. Number two
is family, and three is America. Those are the three things,
and you seldom here about God, the family, and America.
When you have liberal Democrats talking about the greatness of
our country, Mom, Donnie, did not talk about God, did
not talk about family, did not talk about America except
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what people can suck out of the system. And so when,
for example, about two weeks ago, the Senate Republicans put
up a standalone bill to get rid of the shutdown. Okay,
you don't want to continue a cr which is Biden spending,
All right, let's just put the work air traffic controllers
in TSA.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Just that group.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
The Democrats said no, keep the air traffic controllers out
of the skies. Number two, they put on a standalone
bill funding food stamps. Let's fund SNAP. Democrats said no,
we're not going to fund SNAP. And then they put
up a standalone bill, let's pay the military. You would
think Democrats would say in the Senate, yeah, we got
to pay the million. No, the Democrats said no. They're
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in the business of inflicting as much pain as possible
the American people, hoping the American people not being informed.
We'll blame Donald Trump when the Democrats vote against funding
the military. Can you smell when I'm cooking?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I can, indeed, And a big part of A big
part of that is because historically, the Democrats have had
more money than the Republicans, and the Democrats are the
ones being funded right now. You know, this isn't the
old days of the country club GOP. The Democrats are
the party that were the financial drive. The financial machine
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of the party is being driven by our nation's richest
billionaires and it's powering their financial machine.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's keeping them going in a big way.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And Republicans, we may not have the financial advantage right now,
but what we do have is the advantage in that
we have more people who truly believe in what we say.
We have more people who are actual god fearing patriots
in this country who believe what we say and believe
in the ideals made this country great, in the ideals
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that Charlie Kirk believed. Then we just have to tap
into that. Right they don't have people. You know, here
in Ohio, for instance, like half the majority of the
counties in Ohio don't even have a functioning Democratic party
apparatus at the county level. Every county in Ohio has
a Republican party apparatus. We need to tap into our manpower,
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and our manpower is not it doesn't need a financial
machine to drive it. It just needs passion and enthusiasm
and training. And that's what Turning Point Action is trying
to do. We need to make sure that we can
turn these people into soldiers for their neighborhoods and help
make sure that they're able to get their neighbors out
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to vote and inform them about what's going on. That
takes building up a lot of infrastructure to make sure
that that happens.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
And Gabe, a lot of work lies ahead. The midterms
is going to be critical. If, for example, the House
of Representatives turned into the hands of a king Jefferies,
there goes to Trump agenda, it's over with. Here comes
all the impeachment bills. It will continue, and God forbid.
If they take the Senate also and they have the presidency,
then it's going to be Puerto Rico is going to
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be a state, Washington, d C. Is going to be
a stake. They're going to have fourteen justices on the
US Supreme Court. The Democrats will get rid of the
filibuster as soon as they can, and as a consequence,
the country is going to be completely different than it
is today. But lastly, I'll give you one another atlantidote.
I got a call from Turning Point USA person in
Miami University close to you. You're in Dayton, but this
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is in Butler County largely, and they had five and
six people coming to their meetings about six months ago.
Now they had five or six hundred. Have you noticed
on college campus as a yearning and desire here in
Ohio to have a functioning Turning Point USA and to
turn these minds of mush college kids in the marching soldiers.
Have you noticed the difference? And where is the interest level?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
The interest level is suited the roof.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I mean, ever since tenth and what happened to Charlie Kirk,
young people are just fired up and they're seeing what's happening.
They're seeing the direction in which this is heading. And
even you know, here's the thing. Before September tenth, I
would say a majority of college students on my campus,
which is the University of Dayton, are you know, lean
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to conservative. They lean towards the political right on the issues.
They were you know, they didn't like the Democrats. They
don't really like you know, Biden. They didn't really like
what was going on with Kamala Harris, but they were apathetic.
They were more focused about, you know, doing what college
students do. But ever since September tenth, what has happened
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is these young people on our campuses have woken up in.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
A big way. They're starting to realize this is where
our country's headed.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
And I may be, you know, these people may be
in college now, they may be you know, just doing
the college things, you know, trying to enjoy the experience,
but they're realizing when they're out of college, what's going
to happen if the country is on the track that
it's on right now, if the left is on the
rhetorical track that they are right now, and they're really
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concerned about it, and they're starting to wake up in
a big way. They're realizing, we have to do something
about this now or else. As soon as we're out
of college, we're not going to have an enjoyable life
to live, let alone our kids and grandkids. So that's
really what's driving it and the amount of growth that
turning point USA chapters across the state and College Republican chapters.
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I'm chairman of the Ohio College Republican Federation as well.
We have twenty two chapters across the state. What these
campus organizations are seeing is rapid growth, and it's really
you know, the important thing is just to not just
get people in the room, but also to activate those
students to be able to make that difference in their
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friend groups and their communities and their neighborhoods at the
ballot box. Not just about bringing people into a room,
it's about equipping them with the tools and knowledge necessary
to be able to go out and make that difference
outside of the chapter.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Gabe, that's what we're trying to do, Jame gourney Reny,
I got to get your website, but it's about God,
family and America and seldom on Democratic Party functions. To
see a lot of those activities, hopefully in the Republican
and if you capture some kid eighteen or twenty three
years old committed to the calls, more likely to stick
with it. Gabe, what is the what is your website?
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If college kids, there are others listening around the triestate would
like to be in touch.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
For Turningpoint USA, which is our five oh one C
three with the campus chapters, It's TPUSA dot com. I
work for Turningpoint Action, which is the electoral wing that
is tpaction dot Com and we work with the Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We do the ballot chasing.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
And too good luck to you and full you think
it's over, it's just be gonna know. The Democrats are
doing the macarina right now. And uh for a Democrat
to win in New York City or Virginia or New
Jersey or California, it's not startling and surprising that they
wanted to moralize people like you to think, Okay, you've lost,
we won.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Know your role.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Shut your mouth, Gabe, go back to the books. Forget
about the organizing college kids. Because the days of God
and family and faith are done. That's the message that
they want to give to you, and I sense you
have not received. You may have received that message, but
you push back against it.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Correct, absolutely have. Their celebrations are going to be short lived.
We're going to come back with a vengeance.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
God willing, God bless America.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
All right, Gabe Guiderini, thanks for coming on the Bill
Cunningham Show the day after the election, and we'll talk later.
And God bless you, and God bless America, and God
bless the family of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Thank you for having me. God bless God, bless you all.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
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