The Bill Cunningham Show -- 10/27/25

Willie is joined by ESPN1530's Mo Egger to dissect the Bengals loss to the Jets. Michael McDonald joins to discuss the mayoral election in New York City and Lieutenant Governor Coach Jim Tressel also joins to discuss Team Tressel's Fitness Challenge.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:06):
Enter it now, My Billy Cunningham, the Great America, welcome
this Monday afternoon in the triesday is picking up the
pieces of mother debacle at pay four and more. Of
course the Utes and U see Bearcut's then to visit
the Utes on Saturday. It's going to be a big game.

(00:28):
The Chicago Bears earned down. But Moe, with your permission, man,
I share with you a couple of my tweets. One
was somewhat optimistic, the other not so optimistic. Are you prepared?
I am ready at the half Bengals beating up in
the lowly Jets twenty four to thirteen. I know you
may snicker, but with the same team, Flacco has played

(00:49):
much better than Burrow. If the Bengals are ten and five,
when Burrow can play after one of as many injuries,
do you bench Flacco number one? Answer that one before
we go to two and three of my tweets. It
got worse over the next two hours.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
They're not mentioning Joe Burrow for Joe Flacco with Joe
Burrow's helping.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Secondly, here's my next tweet, Booze rain down in pay corps.
Crippling loss to the worst team in the NFL with
no clock management, drop passes no defense ten days to
prepare his Bengals to peer clueless. How does Zach Shula
keep his job after this debacle? I put that in
Capitol letters, by the way, just like Trump Capitol debacle.

(01:29):
Lose thirty nine to thirty eight? Should Zach be fired?
Answer that question?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Mo, Well, I.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Don't have a problem with the notion that he should be.
I kind of put more on the person who put
together the roster because this is the frustrating thing for.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Me, Willie.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
All off season, so many of us wondered.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Why aren't you doing more.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
To make the defense better? Why aren't you being more proactive?
Why aren't you finding some players in the secondary. Why
should we trust your drafting of defensive players when you
haven't been able to find solutions on defense for years?
And so the frustrating thing to me is when something
happens that you saw coming from a mile away, we

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thought this defense was probably going to be really bad.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Why did we think that?

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Number One, because there were a lot of guys on
it who were on last year's defense, which was terrible.
Uh so we suspected it. Also we kept talking about,
how you know, all you have to do is have
a league average defense, right. How many times did you
hear that just need a league average defense because of

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their offensive weaponry as well? When best cases league average,
the more likely cases well below league average, right. And
so that's what's happened. The ceiling for this defense was
always really really low, which told you the floor was
also really really low.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
And so that's the.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Thing to me. And plus, you've watched them last year
when they've needed to get stopped, when they've needed to
give the offense a chance to win, when they've needed
to close out a game that the offense has put
them in a position to win, they have failed pretty
much every single time. They failed against Pittsburgh. The good
news is the Bengals pretty much got the ball last

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aside from an Aaron Rodgers hail Mary. They failed the
game before that against Green Bay. All those missed opportunities
in the second half to give the Bengals the ball
back down by a possession. They failed late in the
game against Detroit when they pulled within eleven points in
the fourth quarter ten and a half minutes to go
and allowed the Lions to score in six plays without
even getting to a third down. They failed against Denver,

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they failed against Minnesota. Heck, if not for a Brian
Thomas a dropped pass, they failed against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
And so the frustrating thing for me is nothing about
yesterday was all that eye opening. Nothing about it was
all that surprising. But that doesn't make it any less madning.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
I go from optimates some to pessimism. Here's my last tweet.
Yesterday Bengals give up five hundred and two yards in
total offense, losing a fifteen point lead in the fourth
quarter at home to winless team that stinks. Zach says,
this is unacceptable, this is unacceptable. Really, did Duke Tobin
or Al Golden or a Zach step up? Who's in

(04:19):
worst shape? Mayory Ta Pireval or Zach Shuler answer that question?

Speaker 4 (04:26):
I have Tab's got problems of his own. There's no
question about it. This is Zach Taylor's team. This is
Duke Tobin's team. Last year of the solution. At the
end of the season, the solution for fixing the defense
was we need a new defensive coordinator, who, by the way,
is leading a defense on a team that's seven and.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
One right now.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
So they scapegoat Luana Rumo.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
By the way, maybe it was.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Time for Lunado, but they scapegoat Luana Rumo. Changing defensive
coordinators hasn't worked. And so how many more defensive coordinators
is a head coach? And again, how many more defensive
coordinators is Duke Tobin gonna get? And look, Zach Taylor
deserves whatever iyre is being aimed at him. I think

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he would be the first to tell you that. I
look at Duke Tobin, I look at the person in
charge of the roster. Look at all of the failed
draft picks on defense since twenty twenty one. Look at
all of the entire draft classes that have yielded next
to nothing. Look at this year's draft class. Remember, the
Bengals were not uber active in free agency, but what

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they were gonna do was fortify the defense through the draft.
They were gonna get players who can make an immediate impact.
Is Shamar Stewart making much of an impact? No is
Demetrius Knight making much of an impact? Who is Derek
Carter making much of an impact? Never heard of last
year's secondary. Last year, the Bengals had a terrible secondary.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
It stuck.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Did the Bengals add a cornerback this offseason, either a
free agency.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
Or in the draft.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
No, No safety either in free agency or in the draft.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
No.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
So it's the stuff they have tried as a track
record of not working. And then there was a whole
bunch of stuff they didn't try because they brought back
pretty much the same unit in the back end of
the defense that was here last year. They have tried
to make the pass rush better. Miles Murphy, failed draft
choice Samar Stewart, I won't say fail draft choice has

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yet to make any kind of an impact. They've been
trying to make the pass rush better for years. They
haven't had any success. They continue to tackle poorly, They
continue to be a step slow on defense. They continue
to provide no resistance. These aren't issues exclusive to twenty
twenty five. They were issues last year. They were glaring issues.

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They kept the Bengals from the postseason during a year
where Joe Burrow played out.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Of his mind.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Those defensive issues cost last year's defensive coordinator his job,
and yet nothing has changed. That is first and foremost
a direct reflection of the poor work game done by
Duke Tobin.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Tamar Stewart's on his way. He's tracking his total number
of sacks at LSU, which is in the crapper. His
name wasn't called at all. And I think I'm right
in saying this that last week the Jets lost to Carolina,
I think they had ten yards of passing and like,
am I right? So they kind of told the quarterback

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at that point a week ago, We're going to replace
you at quarterback. They didn't have their two wide receivers,
didn't have the starting quarterback, and they put up five
hundred and two yards against the Bengals defense as if
there wasn't one. And I'll give you another fact. Are
you ready for an important fact?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Since twenty sixteen, the Bengals have played ten games having
had a Thursday game, then they've been off for ten
days to get ready. So in that time the Bengals
are zero nine and one and the ten times they've
played Thursday night game they have ten days to get
ready for the next game. They haven't won one game

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in ten. What does that say? Moe says a.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Lot of different things. I think primarily they're not using
the extra time to their benefit, and I think that's frustrating,
right because we talked about the Steelers game point. If
you could just get this one now, you have a
chance to take your breath, enjoy a little bit of time,
you know, get healthy, euro though this game was not
that banged up, and then come back and play a
really bad team. Justin Fields last week was benched. Not

(08:31):
only was he benched, he was called out by the
team's owner, Woody Johnson for his poor play, not only
that he didn't have his top two wide receivers to
throw to, not only that they've put him behind a
bad offensive line. Like if ever, there was a recipe
for a defense to enjoy success for the first time
since Week one, it was this. If you were watching

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yesterday's game and knew nothing about the New York Jets,
you wouldn't know that Justin Fields was benched last week.
You wouldn't know that all week long, Aaron Glenn, the
head coach, was noncommittal as to whose quarterback was going
to be. You wouldn't know that his team's owner had
publicly called out the quarterback in ways that owners don't
call out their players. You wouldn't know they were without

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their top two wide receivers. And yet you know this
came up last week, right, who would you rather face
justin Fields or Tyrod Taylor. My answer was, it doesn't
matter because this defense is so bad. This defense is
so poorly constructed. Who the personnel is on the other
side of the ball is irrelevant. They can make a

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good quarterback look great, they can make a bad quarterback
look good. They can make a team without any kind
of legitimate offensive weaponry suddenly look like they're impossible to defend.
And that's exactly what happened yesterday.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
So what changes, Tony Bender wants to know what changes?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
Nothing changes this year. Nothing.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
They'll try to outscore people if they nearly did yesterday.
They'll continue to ask did Joe Flacco to do more
than he's probably capable of doing over the course of
the next five or six games, and they'll continue to
put a defense on the field that is completely and
totally not trustworthy. They've tried stuff. They've benched Cam Taylor Britt,
they've played Cam Taylor brit. They reduced Logan Wilson's playing time,

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They've tried to play the younger guys like within the framework.

Speaker 7 (10:22):
Of what they have.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
Al Golden has sought answers. He just hasn't been able
to come up with any And some of that is
on him. Much of it is on the roster he
was given. Again, who built the roster. Who's in charge
of the roster.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
It's Duke Tobin, oh which is simply have to get better.
This is unacceptable, which is a firm grasp of reality.
One last thought, the last two games, the Bengals defense
has given up seventy points, and they weren't playing some
great offenses. Pittsburgh's middling at best. And then of course
the Jets are the worst to give up seventy points
and I looked online the Bengals have given up more

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points than any team in the national footage, given up
seventy points in the next two games. And now we
have coming into town the Chicago Bears. They're not very
good either. Who knows what's going to happen with them.
They just lost to Baltimore, and Baltimore maybe getting their footings.
And so for long suffering Bengals fans, with a team
that's given up seventy points in two games, is their hope?

(11:17):
Do you have hope.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
I don't have hope a lot because hope, hope, hope
lok is in the track record, right. You have to
earn my trust, you have to earn my hope. So
here's what the Bengals have chosen to do. We're gonna
pay a handful of guys one area of the team,
which is fine. I don't really have any issue with that,

(11:41):
as long as you're good at doing two things. One,
replacing good players who leave. Well, we're still talking about
Jesse Bates, who last played here.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Three years ago.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
We're still talking about how they couldn't replace them. We're
still talking about how they couldn't replace DJ Reader. We're
still to a degree talking about how they can't replace
Sherobia Huzii. Welly, we're still talking about how they can't
replace Andrew Whitworth, who left nine years ago and has
been retired for four years. So started there, right. If
you can't pay them, all players are gonna leave, that's fine.

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You have to be able to replace them. The Bengals
cannot Number two. If you're gonna pay a handful of
players all this money, you have to nail it in
the draft. This league is about two types of players,
superstars and cheap labor. The middle class player is being
squeezed out. The Bengals have paid their stars. They have
paid their stars, Okay, that's fine. You then need to

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supplement them with the cheap labor provided to you in
the draft. The Bengals have a third round take from
last year who hasn't played yet. They have a fourth
round pick from last year who never plays. They have
a first round tick from twenty twenty three who's been
a total bust. They have entire draft classes that have
yielded next to nothing. They've drafted offense b lineman that

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have failed. They have drafted defensive players that have failed.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
So the trust lies in this.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
Track record is Ke Tobin. His best two draft choices
have been obvious, Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase Right. I
could have made those. I could have taken to Higgins
with the first pick and round two. What work are
you doing to get players who can come in and
make an immediate impact in the draft. Duke Tobin has

(13:26):
done none. The proof is in the putting Willie. The
struggles on defense are directly related, can be directly attributed
to the shoddy drafting, The poor decision making and the
lack of development with the players they have developed on defense.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Are you ready for the big question?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Does the Brown family brain trust know of which we speak?
Do they know what we're saying the ones who make
the ultimate decision makers? Does the Brown family brain trust
know what we're saying?

Speaker 4 (14:01):
They know what we're saying. I'm not sure it's going
to compel them to make any changes, but I got
to be honest. Man, if I'm Mike Brown, or if
I'm Troy Troy Blackburn or Katie Blackburn, Duke Tobin is
sitting in my office today and I'm asking him, why
can't you fix this?

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Why?

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Why can't you? Why can't you fix this? In the
absence of a good answer, I don't. I don't know
how you give him more opportunities to fix something that
has been broken for a while.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Let's move on quickly to you see and Brendan Sorosby
was unbelievable once again. A second year here, they're well
above expectations. Seven games in a row. They should have
beaten beaten Nebraska to start things off, they'd be eaten. No,
but now they got the intractable foe in the land
of the Mormons in Utah. They're going to play late
on Saturday night. All the all the nation's eyes are
going to be upon you see. Give me an update

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on that game. How does it look? And can Sores
be maybe substitute for the Bengals when he comes back
on Saturday night late? Could he played Sunday at Pai Cor?
If he has to answer the second part, then the
first part. Then I have a third part.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
You want Brendan Soroesby to play for the Bengals?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yes, Okay, Well, I assuming Placo he's hurt. I guess
his shoulder hurts him and Henderson's he was cheap shot.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, I thought for a second Jake Browning was gonna
have to play yesterday. Oh this has been This has
been a really fun UC football season, Willie. And you know,
I I I know there's a lot of folks who
when Scott Satterfield was hired either shrugged their shoulders or
thought that John Cunningham made a mistake. And the job
is not done. You know, they have four games remaining.

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But I think you have to give Scott Sadderfield a
lot of credit for building a football team. I'm not
sure offensively what their weaknesses. You know, they came into
this week with statistically the most balanced offense in college football.

Speaker 7 (15:56):
And the good thing.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
About having a balanced offense is one one area isn't working,
you can lean on the other. And so this Saturday
against they ran the football well. They've committed one turnover
in six games. Their offensive line has been terrific. Brendon
Soresby came into the game on Saturday having been sacked
just two times, and so start there. It's a really
well put together, well coached offense and Scott sadderfield is

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that's that's where his discipline lies. I think they've done
a really good job of building a goods They have
some issues on defense. They need don Kae Corleote healthy upfront.
But this is a good roster, Willie. It's a team
that's obviously, you know, on the prick of the hunt
in the Big twelve. They have a very tough game
on Saturday against the Utah team that can run the

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ball really well hard. We'll see if the Bearcats can
slow it down. But to story and look, man, all
I heard for three years was coach pron they should
have hired on Yah. Wonderful, wonderful, not a not a
lot of hype around Dion Sanders these days. Meanwhile, Scott
sadderfield as a team in the seven straight games.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Twenty seconds remain. It is Sunday morning. Soresby's landing to CVG.
Joe Flacco can't play here. We got Jake the Snake
Browning to play the Bears. Would you rather have Brendan
Soresby or Jake the Snake to take it? Take a
snap at one oh five on Sunday, Soresby's available, put
them on the roster, coach them up real quick, Soresby

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or Browning quickly.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
I'd rather have Jake the Snake Roberts than Jake Browning,
So I'll take Brendan Soresby ahead of Jake Browning.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Moe, thanks for your insight on these important matters. Thank
you very much.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
All right, will we see.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Let's continue with more now that would be a story.
News next, it's our home of the home of the Reds, Bengals,
bear Cats and the Musketeers. News Radio seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
You hit the music, You hit the.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Music a little more upbeat, at more positive. God knows.
I'm looking for positivity and non negativity. And now I
get with Moe. He's very informative. He's forgotten more about
sports and most of us know. And what happened yesterday
was the debacle of historical proportions. Tanye Rourke made a
posting it says the low point of the Bengals season,

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and then she said, no, since they've been here. The
low point the low points for the losing the Super
Bowls all three, when two of the three they were
up with a minute or two to play in each
one of them then lost. But this point just feels
differently because it's the Joe Burrow era. Joe Burrow turns
thirty years old next year. He's got toe, calf, knee,

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and wrist, toe, calf, knee, and wrist. What's left? I
guess the shoulders coming up next. He's getting killed out
there being a quarterback, and the poor guy is now
walking around without a boot, wanting to play, but he's
at least another six weeks away from playing. Maybe. I
know many of us are optimistic he can come back
in the middle of December, but what difference does it make.

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He didn't play middle linebacker, so I don't know. And
as you recall, we sign up the Bengals for another
ten years. So the tax bearers are putting in all
in well over a billion dollars, I said, a billion
dollars of our money in order to incentivize the Bengals
to put on the field of winning team. And at
this point they're not being real successful, shall we say,

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But we'll see what happens on Sunday. The Bears are
in town. Joe Flacco supposedly is going to play Hendrickson,
who knows. That was a cheap shot by the way
that took him out of the game, and away we go.
In the last two games, the Bengals had given up
seventy points. I said, seventy points to two bad offenses.
And the Jets offense was historically bad. Last week against Carolina,

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they had a total of eleven yards passing and they
took down the quarterback. Taylor couldn't play, and then he
turns up lame this week, so they put in the
second stringer who they didn't want him to play, and
the two best wide receivers the Jets had were on
the DL. So this was a second team Jets offense
that had not won a game all year. They come

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to Cincinnati and just take down the Bengals unbelievable. You know,
insanity is anticipating different things, engaging in the same behavior,
hoping for a different result. And I don't know what
to say, but the beat goes on. Secondly, all the
news is a flutter with this government shutdown. The government
shutdown if the last until Tuesday of next week, eight

(20:21):
days from now, it'll be the longest one in American history.
And the only party responsible, of course, of the Democratic
Party members who refuse to continue the Biden budget, let
me explain, I have millions and millions of Democrats and
Liberals that listen to me. The CR, the continuing Resolution,
would continue the spending of Joe Biden that was in

(20:43):
effect in September thirtieth and twenty twenty four last year.
It's a CR continuing the same programs and the same spending.
The thought being okay, over the next year, will try
to work something out on these Obamacare mandates and these
Obamacare supplements from the federal government. We're going to try
to do something about that to maybe help maybe not.

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I don't know. There's all kinds of reasons. We now
know the Obamacare has failed. It's the Unaffordable Care Act.
We knew it was going to happen fifteen years ago.
It's happening right now. And the Republicans say, okay, let's
everybody approved the c are, and in the Senate you
must have large Democrat votes to get it to the continent.

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The Democrats control the Senate when it comes to the filibuster,
and they don't want to continue the Biden spending. Why
because they're inflicting pain on you, the American people. They
want you to be hurt by this, thinking that Trump
will be blamed for their behavior. Those of us on
the inside, those of us who follow the news, understand

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that take sixty votes in the Senate, and the Chuck
Schumer is not providing the votes, and he has said
every day that passes, the more pain that happens, the
better it is for us. One of the Democratic leaders
in the House, that of course we could agree to
the cr but we need to inflect more difficulty in
the American people to get the other things we want.

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Trump is such a divisive character in the minds of
some What the Democrats want to do is continue the
idea that Trump's in charge when he's not in charge
of the United States Senate without the Senate, the cr
cannot go into law, and they want all these other
ornaments on a Christmas tree to be passed to get
their votes, including five hundred million dollars for NPR, including

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transgender care all over Africa, including all this wish list
of spending by the Democrats, and to their credit. John Thun,
my friend from North Dakota, says we're not going to
do it, and the Republicans are standing firm saying you're
not going to extort from us something that should be
a layup, which is let's continue the Biden spending program.

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And the Democrats say no to that, thinking you're going
to blame Donald Trump for their behavior, which might happen.
You know, Fortunately, most of us don't attention to politics.
We don't know the ends and the outs. We think
Trump is in charge of the United States Senate.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
He is not.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
It takes the cooperation of the Democrats to get anything
passed because of the filibuster. Now, should the Senate Republicans
pass a new rule eliminating the filibuster if that happens
the next time the Senate's in control of the Democrats,
which will happen at some point, I pray it's years off,
but could be as soon as a year from now.

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It means that a Puerto Rico, Washington, d C. Will
become states that they're going to change the number of
US Supreme Court justices from nine to thirteen. They're going
to do all these things that are horrible for the
country because AOC and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer demands it,
and it will happen. So we'll see what happens down

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the road. But be informed and understand the pain suffered
now by the American people is occasioned only by Democrats
who refuse to continue the spending programs of Joe Biden. Now,
secondly on Obamacare, what's at stake here with the Unaffordable
Care Act? When this thing passed about fifteen years ago,

(24:11):
I was with you at that point and I said,
if government takes over healthcare, the costs will rise precipitously upwards,
the expenses will skyrocket, and coverages will go down precipitously.
And that is what's happening for those who are part
of the ACA, the Unaffordable Care Act, it's about twenty

(24:32):
two million Americans. How about this number, one hundred and
sixty million Americans me included, are satisfied with our healthcare
because it's an employee or sponsored program in which market
forces are to play. So about one hundred and sixty
million get their medical care through their employer, about twenty
two million through the Obamacare subsidies. And the Obamacare architects

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who once herodled heradled at the providers of this it
would lower the cost, and now admit that this was
a barrier to better care. If you're in the exchanges
right now, you're paying confiscatory premiums and with high deductibles.
If you're a family of four in the Obamacare subsidies,
you have to have at apocket cost of about twenty

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five thousand dollars before a dollar kicks in because of
the because of the requirements of high deductibles, and they
take out many doctors and hospitals, they're capitulating, they're ruining
many of the teaching medical hospitals, and the pharmacies. The
government now is firmly involved in Obamacare subsidies, and by

(25:42):
that I mean the government will pay part of your
premium if you're in the Obamacare, but it is skyrocketing
eight to fifteen percent per year, every year, and that
there's no indication in the next five or ten years
that's going to change at all. The Obamacare has doubled
the cost of individual health insurance. They have more mandates

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and regulations on the individual market imposed by the ACA.
That's why the cost arising. When the government pays the bills,
it's inefficient. Few people more and more people will not
be covered at of higher, higher expenses. We said it
fifteen years ago, I'm saying it now. Obamacare is an
unmitigated disaster and nothing we can do to stop. So

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the Democrats want to double down right now the subsidies,
that is, the tax credits. If you're in Obamacare for
a family of four or in the ranges of six
to seven thousand dollars a year, the taxpayer will pay
part of your premium. And then with that premium being paid,
you have high deductibles, and you have limited availability to

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go to hospitals and doctors. And now the Democrats say,
we want the taxpayer right now to pay even more
and more and more for the twenty two million Americans
in the exchanges, at the expense of those on Medicare,
at the expense of those on Medicaid at the expense
of those who get their insurance through their own employer.
So it is a canard to say that the Republicans

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do not want the government to provide healthcare. It's already happened.
And if expenses keep rising, which you and I know
they will. That DMV is an example. The costs will
keep rising. Eventually this thing will collapse on its own
weight unless it gets their serious moneies. One estimate is
four hundred billion dollars are the taxpayers putting into obombacare

(27:37):
to keep it alive? Four hundred billion dollars, which is
about half the money on the defense budget, and the
cost of rising. Employees like employeer health care plans, those
on the so called exchanges that are not necessarily employed
or going through their employer, don't like what's happening because
of the government mandates. All the rules and regulations, and

(28:00):
the deductibilities can be ridiculous. The great bulk of Americans
do not spend five thousand dollars a year in medical care.
Great bulk and the government then as an agreement through
Joe Biden, to pay directly the insurance companies forty billion
dollars a year So this is about keeping alive large

(28:20):
medical insurance companies and making sure the government's in charge
of your healthcare. Now that story is not well told
by the media, but I just told it first fashion.
And actually Democrats are attempting to destroy the powerful benefits
for employers and employees by increasing the worker's reliance on

(28:41):
the federal government, by moving them to exchange plans with
high deductibles, low actuarial value, and narrow networks. And it's
only going to get worse. Right now, if Kamala Harris
had won the presidency, all these subsidies would be in effect.
The government would pay forty to fifty percent of the

(29:02):
health insurance insurance premiums. With high deductibles, you never get
to the point where you can use the insurance. And
so I hope the American people are informed on that
issue now. Secondly, sometime later this week, I'm going to
get on the representative of a Chief of Police, Teresa
Terry Thiji, about what's happening in the department. I reached
out to her a brother, and he's going to come

(29:26):
on later this week to talk about his sister, not
on her behalf, but to explain what's happening. Can you
imagine how screwed up? And I did this in one
of my ex tweets that I put out that a
f ted Pirrival has no idea what he's doing. He's
to capture of the radical most radical left part of
American politics and he's going to hire this by the way,

(29:48):
it's a great law firm in order to look at
whether or not the facts upon which I based my
decision to shall we say to fire? I mean I
use the term fire. She's on the administrative leave. And
so that they got a hold of a big time
law firm to examine why did I fire Teresa Thichi?

(30:10):
What was the reason that I did it? You would
think that after Piaval would know not reason in the
first place. Am I right about this? So Frost, Brown
and Todd will serve as independent counsel to quote conduct
a review into the effectiveness of leadership within the Cincinnati
Police Department under Thiji. And so we're going to spend

(30:32):
at least fifty thousand, more likely one hundred thousand dollars
for the mayor of our city, mayor Pirival to be
told as to why he did something which is administrative
leave or fire Teresa Thiji. She was placed on administrative leave.
If you didn't know why he did it, why should
a law firm tell him why he did it? And
as I understand that she's a not will employee, and

(30:53):
that will employee means you can be fired for a
good reason, a bad reason, or no reason. And how
many news conferences the Theiji with have to have peer
of all and share al long, The three of them
stood up there and all of them were on the
same page. She was doing exactly what have to have
peer of all wanted her to do. And Sharyl Long
as a putts, she simply is reacting to what the

(31:13):
mayor tells her to do. And so how is it
possible the thieves she did with the mayor and the
city manager wanted her to do, and having done what
she was told to do, she was fired because she
did what the mayor told her to do. Now the
mayor wants to hire a law for him to discover
why he did what he did, then to publicize and
smear Theresa Thiji and her leadership, which the mayor vouched

(31:37):
for the last several months. So it was fine, We're
on the same page, doing a great job well, he
either lied them or he's lying now. And so this
is again cya cover your mayor's ass by finding reasons
to going and get the dirt on Fiji. Can you
imagine how disruptive it is for police leadership to have

(31:59):
a law law firm getting statements, emails, text messages, maybe
under oath, statements and depositions from the top leadership of
the Cincinnati Police to get dirt on Fiji to justify
the decision that's already been made to fire Thiji. And
the mayor wants to know why he did it, so
he wants this law for him to give him the
information upon which he can bootstrap the argument. Obviously she

(32:22):
needed to be fired, and if that's the case, is
call her in, she said, I will employee and say,
chief of Police, Thigi, I've decided to make a change.
You serve at the pleasure of the city manager. City
manager tell her. City manager says, okay, we're going to
let you go, and that's the end of it. It
happens all the time. Many times. Chiefs of police are
hard to be fired, like the fire department, hard to

(32:43):
be fired. Whatever it is you serve at the pleasure
of the city manager, but to come back later for
political reasons and say, you know what, I want to
spend the taxpayer money even more and more and more
to find out why I did what I did. Get
me dirt on Thiji. It'll be sink Fiji. That's what
the mayor is after. You don't have to do this.

(33:03):
Simply say look, I'm not happy with the direction of
the city. Our policies have not worked. I want somebody
in there different than you, and I thank you for
your service. Leave your gun and your badge on the desk.
See you wouldn't want to bey. Oh no, not this mayor.
He wants to spend your money develop dirt on Fiji.
I let's continue with more the line becomes available, which

(33:24):
is never available. You know the routine. I'm gonna do
something different today. After two o'clock, I'm gonna open up
the lines to Bengaledom. I want to know from you,
as a long suffering Bengals fan, who's responsible for this
debacle and what would you do to fix it. That'll
be after two o'clock today, and at one o'clock will
be Michael McDonald of the Catholic League. What a fool
believes Michael McDonald of the Catholic League about what's happening

(33:47):
with Mondannie. I'm looking Fox News right now. There is
with AOC and Sanders. That's the Marxist triumpherate and what's
happening in New York City and more so, let's continue
and never stop. We simply continue. And I like Tony
Pike twelve fifty five Homi your Reds and Bengals, Bengals,
there's radio seven hundred WW next mayor of New York City,

(34:10):
open borders, free bussing, free subway rides, free tuition everywhere,
and it could be a real meltdown, including increased taxes,
rules and regulations. And the Catholic League is headquartered for
religious and civil rights in New York City. The Great
Michael McDonald is one of their spokesman. Michael McDonald, welcome
again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, Michael,

(34:31):
we're a few days out from the election. Can you
tell the American people what it's like now in New
York City with Mondonnie about to become the mayor, as
it possible he might lose. What changes will there be?
Give me a full report.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Bill, Good to be with you. Yeah, you know, it's
not looking good. It's not looking good for the city
of New York. I mean, it's it's been rough for
the last couple of years. You know, you just walk
walk out on the street and you just see people
shooting up drugs. I'm the homeless defecating everywhere. It's uh,

(35:08):
you got a crime problem through the roof. It's uh,
it's not good. And uh, ma'am Donnie's brand of socialism, liberalism,
whatever the hell he's calling it. I mean, he's fundamentally
not an honest person. He's just a chameleon and changes,
uh with every single question they put to him. And
he uh, you know, he's just kind of this little,

(35:30):
two faced, little Weasley guy. It's not it's not going
to be good. It's going to be particularly hard on
minority communities where they particularly want to see more police.
Survey after survey indicates that, uh, and he wants to
defund the police. And I know he's dancing around and saying, well,
by defund the police, I didn't really mean defund the police.

(35:52):
We're just not going to respond to certain phone calls
with police. So if a man's beating his wife, I
really don't think that's something that the cops need to
be involved with. Oh well, I'm I'm glad to know
you support that, mister man Donnie. Like, that's exactly what
we want to be hearing from America, especially in a
city that is you know, right now, the chief commissioners

(36:14):
to Shames. She's doing a great job keeping a little
on things, but she's probably not going to be in
the job. I wouldn't trust Mandonni when it comes to
anything else. He says. He also wants to shut down
the charter schools, the elite schools, which you know again
survey asked after survey shows black students, Black parents love those,

(36:36):
Hispanic students, Hispanic parents love them, Asian students, Asian parents
love the charter schools and the elite public schools, and
he wants to get rid of those because, Yeah, you
couldn't find a policy on crime and education that Mam
Donnie supports that's actually going to benefit these people. In fact,

(36:58):
his policies are going to hurt people. And that's the
dangerous thing is it's going to make the city a
lot worse. When you haven't even started talking about his
fifty two percent income tax. But the policies, particularly on
the social front, the policing and education, those types of
issues that we follow pretty closely at the Catholic League.

(37:20):
He's promoting all of these things that are going to
hurt the most vulnerable in society. And that's a very
scary prospect. And he's probably going to be the next
Mayer of New York City.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
And I read that long bio put together by the
Catholic League about where he came from Uganda, from Indian
parents who are rich, never worked a day in his
life in a real job, and look at at his background.
Of course he's going to be a Marxist communist because
that's what he is. Some of the things open borders,
no same day registration to vote, don't have to be
a citizen to vote. It goes on and on. And

(37:57):
his parents came from the most radical left wing ideology
in the world. It's almost like a stealth candidate in
which someone's going to be put in power because of
the ignorance of the voter. And when I saw the
rally the other day with thousands showing up in the
Queens along with AOC and Bernie Sanders, the three of them,
the triumphrate of Marxism there, they were right there. And

(38:19):
because of early voting, because the same day registration, there's
gonna be large numbers, shall I say, of non traditional
New Yorkers, black and white, They're going to vote for
him because they believe the crap that he's spewing. And
I don't know, can you can you speak to the
fact how we got to this point when when I
look at the schools who they produced to vote. You know,
voters are the last bellweather of American success. You know,

(38:42):
we get the government we deserve. And I look at
the large numbers of individuals at these rallies for Mam Donnie,
and I'm thinking, where did they come from? They came
from the public education system that Mam Donnie wants to
take further to the left. And so talk about the
educational system in New York City that produces individuals who
believe socialism, Marxism and communism is the right economic future

(39:05):
for New York City, the financial capital of the world,
when obviously it is not. Where did these voters come from?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, it's you're hitting the nail right on the head there.
A huge problem is the teachers' unions, the whole public
education system for that matter, is become an organ of
the Democratic Party, has become an organ of leftism. They

(39:32):
don't teach the indoctrinate that. They're not interested in expanding minds.
They want you to think a certain way, make sure
that you just follow the orders that they give you.
No no critical thinking. That it's probably the last thing
that they want. And so you get a lot of
people that go through that system. But in New York
it isn't just the public schools that's the problem. I mean,

(39:54):
look at some of the elite private schools in New
York City. They've gone pretty far to the left, all
this woke nonsense. I'm not talking about the Catholic schools,
and I'm talking about you know, like the the super elite,
like old timey waspy type schools. They went super hard.
They didn't know the difference between men and women. They

(40:14):
were they were promoting all that transgenderism.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
George Floyd is is practically the only saint that they
have left. And even the woke elite uh public private
schools that they've gone full to the left as well.
So there is a problem in education. It's very hard
to escape that because they pretty much anywhere you go,

(40:41):
they are just going to indoctrin hu And you know,
let's be honest as well. Another huge thing. Yes, there's
been a massive influx. And I know a lot of
people are talking about that there's been a massive influx
of new people into New York illegals, immigrants, and that
that seems to be man Downey's face. Okay, there's also
been a massive outflux of New York as well. The

(41:01):
d Blasio years were terrible. The COVID restrictions that they
had here were downright trick, crony, and I mean into
twenty twenty two, people were still walking around with masks.
You needed to show the backs ID card to get
into anywhere up until it was the end of twenty one,
twenty twenty two that that went away. If you're a

(41:22):
normal American then actually loves the country, that type of
stuff is insane. He had Blasio pretty much just let
the criminals run the city. The rioters got a free pass. Uh.
You know, if you tried to go to my first
couple of radio hits I was doing here at the
Catholic League, we're on the Jewish communities in Brooklyn. Their

(41:43):
synagogues weren't allowed to open, but meanwhile the protesters could
be out on the street. It's a lot of bad
things that happened, and if you were a normal person,
you weren't going to wait around and say, oh, you know,
maybe you could get better. This is a real possibility.
It's going to get worse. And as you see more
and more people leave the city, just the elements that

(42:07):
are more dedicated to Mandanni's socialist vision are pretty much
all that's left. The city is a husk of itself.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, mom, Donnie's not in a sense of stealth candidate,
because he's putting out the fact that he believes in
Karl Marx. I'm reading him about He said, quote one
of my goals as mayor will be quote seizing the
means of production unquote. In other words, he wants the
government ownership and control of the economy. He also wants
rent controls, which means he lives in a rent controlled apartment.

(42:36):
But nonetheless, by having rent controls, who disincentivize those who
build apartment buildings to build apartment buildings, they can't make money.
In fact, they lose money. So rent controls will cause
higher rents, not the opposite. But Karl Marx said in
his Treaties of dos Capital, government must seize the means
of production, which means seizing factories, seizing office building buildings,

(43:00):
seizing fact whatever you can do, because we have to
control that. And he also believes in free grocery stores,
so you maybe have to seize Kroger got to seize
the and use it for the quote the people, which
will last about a week or two. And the abolition
of private property quote is a viable option to achieve
my achieve my goals. He wants to abolish private property

(43:22):
and seize the means of production of goods and services.
What the hell does that mean, Michael McDonald of the
Catholic leg What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, it's scary stuff like this is straight up communism.
As you mentioned. You know, we had a couple of
reports on him, and if you look at the crazy
things that his parents support, it does kind of seem like, great,
he's not this sort of manufacturer candid, but he's definitely
somebody that's been been building up to this for his

(43:51):
entire life. And it is kind of scary the things
you're talking about, because we've seen those policies put in action. Yeah,
not even in places just like Venezuela or Cuba or
the Soviet Union or any of these terrible communist countries
that you can talk about. But there have been places
in the United States that have tried these grocery stores. Oh,

(44:13):
the city will run the grocery store and everything's gonna
be fine. It's gonna eliminate the food deserts. And the
first thing that goes to meat. The people don't know this.
With meat, it's one of the hardest businesses to do
because you have to order just the right amount because
if not enough people order it it, then all is
gonna sit on your shelf and spoil and go bad.
If you don't order enough, then people don't have things.

(44:35):
And you know, we're gonna get somebody from the DMV
that's gonna be able to order the right amount of burgers. Wait,
come on, that that's not gonna be happening. I mean,
if you think that's gonna happen, I want whatever you're drinking,
because in the real world, that's not gonna work out.
So the meat's gonna go bad. You're not gonna be
able to getting meat. And then that trickles down. And
then because again people don't have an incentive because he's
gonna be taking fifty two percent of your pay. You know,

(44:58):
was Johnny gonna any incentive to go around clean up
the store, keep it nice? And everyone says that. You
can look at a couple of reports from the Wall
Street Journal on places like small town America that have
tried this, and the grocery stores just just go absolutely south.
They go terrible. Every everything spoiled, no one takes care

(45:19):
of the place, the inventory is all bad. Yeah, and
then you get the yeah, well, I mean they pretty
much don't prosecute anyone in New York for shopliftings, so
they're just gonna be more of the same. But if
you get more of the same, why is anyone gonna
want to stick around? And you know, you look at
I mean, Chicago is probably worse in terms of crime,

(45:40):
but you know, Target here is it's like you have
to walk in the Fort Knox. The security at the
Target here on thirty fourth is probably less than Fort Knox.
I would say a bet on that. It's ridiculous. Anything
anything that you want is locked up and you have
to go get help. And they got to come with
the magic magnet and okay, we can this out. And

(46:01):
you know, we're just helping you right now. Everyone else
has a way. It's it's really and that's and that's
just to get a stick of toothpaste.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Well, lastly, he fashions himself to be black. I'm reading
this story about him. He went to Columbia. He checked
the box saying he was African American. He was born
in Uganda of Indian descent. He took advantage, like the
Senator Elizabeth Warren became an Indian when it was to
her benefits. And then when the truth came out, she
simply said she Missmoke and mom. Donnie does not have

(46:30):
a lot of black support because African Americans figured these
things out more quickly than others. And uh, he said
he was an African American born in Uganda, and really
he's an he's an immigrant.

Speaker 7 (46:43):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
There was some speculation I saw in Newsmax dot com
that Trump may try to deport the guy, which would
be which would be incredible.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Nonetheless, Uh, Michael McDonald. Lastly, you have a great column
up on on the two two genders, two sexes, et cetera. Binary.
In fact, this thing maybe dying out that there are
two sexes has always been to there's not one hundred
and five and the Catholic leagues promoting the idea that
the Bible, in every religious book from Islam to the Sikhs,

(47:14):
to the Jews to the Christians understand there's two sexes
and two genders. Despite the fact that the New York
City is going to become a haven for transgender surgeries,
in which people will be paid to go to New
York City to have transgender care administered. But do you
see transgender and all those rights dissipating in the fact
that America now will accept the fact that there's a
man and a woman and the twain every now and

(47:35):
then shall meet.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah, definitely, there's a lot going on in that front,
and it's moving in our direction. I mean, we're not
back to the level of sanity that we probably should
be at. But if you look at a lot of
the data that's coming out, things started going crazy in
the twenty ten's and into the early twenty twenties, things

(48:01):
just kind of exploded, uh, you know, COVID and all
that nonsense, and that kind of was destabilizing as the
society and the radical transgender gender ideology people came in
there and started pushing all that nonsense. Uh. And yes,
now it seems like people are starting to wake up
seeing this is going on, recognizing that like, hey, they're

(48:23):
they're they're talking about multiple genders on ses sesame Street.
That's probably not a good look. People are starting to
wake up to this. People are realizing that it's that
it's happening, because you know, we deal with this on
a daily basis the Catholic League. This is the type
of stuff. But I talked to my wife abuts on
this stuff, like I didn't even know people could do that,

(48:43):
and it's like, yeah, that's like that's what they're they're
pushing in kid shows, Like, oh, that's that's so terrible. Uh.
That I think people are starting to wake up. And
I think that's actually been the biggest change. But then also,
you know, another huge thing that doesn't get a lot
of coverage, and Bill mentioned Bill do you mentioned this
in his piece today? One of the things that really

(49:06):
should be looked at is how many of these kids,
particularly is ready to mostly young kids girls in their
adolescent years that suddenly like, oh, I want to be
a boy, today, they know somebody that's gone through this
experience and it has seen how painful it is. It's like,
you know what, that's probably not a good move for me.
And so the more people are aware of it, and

(49:28):
the more people have first and contact with it, more
people are realizing, hey, this isn't good. But it's not
just it's even like some of the other like crazy
stuff like oh, I'm a sexual. I like what, You're
a sponge. That's how you reproduce, because that's literally what
that means. Those identifications are in decline, the pan sexuals,
even the bisexuals, which is you know, everyone just like

(49:50):
favorite thing. It's the Elizabeth warren Man Donnie like, oh,
I'm just going to check the box because it's beneficial
to be that, and like what exactly is a bisexual?
They're nothing. At the end of the day, even those
identifications are going down, which means more broadly that there
must be a bigger shift underway in society and this

(50:11):
is a good thing. Like we're talking about New York, though,
I think just a lot of the people that are
awake to this stuff, that are recognizing that these are
bad things. A lot of those people have left and
so you're going to get New York is a sanctuary
city state for transgenderism and the LGBT and everything everything

(50:35):
that normal law enforcement protects, society, protect the normal people,
protect the kids. New York's to become a haven to
let those exact bad things happen.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Michael McDonald, Catholic League dot Org. A lot of good
stuffs up there, stat facts and statistics. The truth will
set us free. We'll get the government we deserve, and
come election Day on Tuesday, we'll see what occurs. Michael McDonald,
thanks for coming on the Bill Show. And Mike, you're
a great American. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Thanks Bill, you're great American as well.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
God bless America. Let's continue with the more news. Next,
You're home of the Bengals. Bengals News Radio seven hundreds
WLW had.

Speaker 8 (51:11):
To throw the protection is good. He throws over the
middle incomplete, intended for Yo c vash and it would
have been short of the first down anyway. The Bengals
fail and the Jets are celebrating. With twenty seven seconds
to go, as the fans begin streaming toward the exits,
hell hell, hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting by.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
God, He's saying, I'm sure you've got my postings on X.

Speaker 9 (51:44):
Now, let's see yesterday, perfect weather, perfect sold out crowd,
no seats, home Ring of Honor, Lapham and Parish Jets.
The Jets are winless, they couldn't score two. They didn't
score a touchdown for two weeks.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
J e Ts, Jets, Jets, Jets, and then all of
a sudden what happens second second half? Oh? I posted
three things yesterday on I was watching I watch saw them.
Here's the first one. Are you ready for optimism? Hit it?
It's the half Bengals beating the lowly Jets twenty four
to thirteen. I know you may snicker, but with the

(52:23):
same team, Flacco has played much better than Burrow. If
the Bengals aren't ten and five, when Burrow can play
after one of as many injuries, do you bench Flaco?
Ten thousand responses, the answer was no, keep Flaco. I
then posted the following wow at the end of the game, Okay,
Booze are raining down at paper crippling loss to the

(52:47):
worst team in the NFL. No clock management, drop passes,
no defense, ten days to prepare his Bengals repair clueless.
How does Zach Shuler keep his job after this debacle,
lose thirty nine to thirty eight, should Zach be fired?
Fifty thousand said yes. Then I went back and wanted

(53:08):
to reconsider. I thought that might have been a bit
too harsh. I wanted to soften up a little bit. Yeah.
Two hours later, Bengal Bengals give up five hundred and
five total yards, losing a fifteen point fourth quarter lead
at home with a to a winless team that stinks.
Zach says, this is unacceptable, it's unacceptable. Really, did Duke

(53:29):
Tobin or Al Golden or Zach step up? Who's in
worst shape? May to pureval or Zach Shuler? What do
you answer the question?

Speaker 9 (53:39):
Give both of them answer the question, and you know
who's loving life in the about one hundred miles away
from here, up I seventy four eh Indianapolis Lou and
Rumo Bingo. They're seven to one. The Colts have scored
thirty plus points in seven of their eight games. They
actually should be eight to no. Coach this team, Big

(54:01):
Lou was the problem.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
Now we find out it's not Big Lou, it's El Duco,
El Duco. Tobin, what do you think about Duco? What's
big Al Big. What about Al from Notre Dame? Where's
the rock? Where's the rock? He's probably down there trying
out it was Al. I'll tell you what. What if
Brendan Soresby lands on Sunday morning about eleven am from Utah. Yeah,

(54:25):
and Joe Flacco wacko can't play. So you got a
choice between Jacob Snake Browning and Brendan Soursby.

Speaker 9 (54:33):
I would also I would also drop up the UC
offensive line because they've they've only given up two sacks
this year.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Could you take thee into Big twelve? Take the quarterback? Yeah,
coach him up quickly, would you agree? Who cares? Get
him in there? Throw it to one or fifteen and
don't throw it to the tight end number eighty. Don't
throw it to him.

Speaker 9 (54:52):
Well, leave the stute reporters approp service, every local Thamestar
heating and air conditioning dealers Tamestar quality. You can feel
in Cincinnati, Cowayoming air won.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Eight eight eight h a h V A C now
said I was talking to Justice Joe. Yeah, deaters, he
called you a putts for the Bengals. Dude, Will you
criticize the Bengals defense? Yes? Or no?

Speaker 9 (55:23):
Let's see, Willie brought the Bengals up. They brought to
you by good Spirits and party Town with thirteen convenient.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Locations in northern Kentucky.

Speaker 9 (55:30):
And I'm sure they were opened big time after the
game yesterday, selling lots of booze. Let's see thirty nine
to thirty eight the final. The defense porous to say
the least, racked up over five hundred yards. That Jets
had not scored a touchdown in two games. They may
they had two free field goals last week and a
like a field goal and another field goal in a

(55:53):
safety the week before.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
It can't score. The Bengals got him right.

Speaker 9 (55:56):
The owner rips the quarterback midweek saying that he can't
do anything. Guy named John said, they don't know who's
going to quarterback wood. He their coach yesterday on the
sideline looked like he didn't know what he was doing.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
And look and they come away with a victory and
their two best wide receivers and sauce gardners out. Didn't
play their their defensive back then, guy, so they had
no team correct. They show up and put light up
the Bengals for thirty nine points.

Speaker 9 (56:24):
Jets rally from four different deficits of at least fourteen points.
Bengals are up ten to nothing, twenty four to ten,
thirty one to sixteen. That was in the third quarter.
I thought, right, then you get another touchdown right there.
It's over No, No, thirty eight to twenty four with
ten minutes to go.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
How do you explain this? It's just what happened. Can
I give you one other factoy? Go ahead? Since twenty sixteen,
the Bengals have had ten games on Thursday Night football,
which gives them ten days thank you Thursday Night to
get ready and all.

Speaker 9 (57:03):
The momentum from the Pittsburgh game and everything else, and
what happened.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
You know what their record is in those ten games
stinks zero nine and one since twenty sixteen on a
Thursday night. Give the Bengals ten days to get ready. Hell,
they're even worse. More to night on Bengals line.

Speaker 9 (57:19):
Let's talk more six five right here on seven other WLW.
The Monsters of the Midway roll into town this Sunday.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
The Chicago Bears. We just lost to Baltimore.

Speaker 9 (57:31):
And the Bears are two and the Bengals are two
and a half point dogs to the Bears at home.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Say that again the Bengals. Bengals are underdogs two and
a half points. This is embarrassing.

Speaker 9 (57:44):
Monday Night Football has Washington and Kansas City. Oh one
other one big injury, give me a big announce. Linebacker
Shaka Shaka Hayward suffered a hairline fracture to his fibula.
He is out for like four weeks. What about Trey
Henry Trey Hendrickson. I don't think he's going to be
doing too much dancing. His hip was hurting yesterday as

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he walked off the field. Apparently was a chief shot
by one of the Jets. What about Joe Flacco on
his shoulder?

Speaker 3 (58:12):
He's okay? Would you play Soresby on Sunday with the
Bengals or Browning? If Flacco can't play, do you bring
up Brendon Soresby and pay him?

Speaker 9 (58:24):
Speaking of Soresby, the Bearcats have moved up four spots
to seventeenth this week in the AP Pole Major Big
twelve action this Saturday Night on the road for the
Bearcats at seven to one. What about the Mormont at
number twenty four Utah? The Mormons are ten ten to fifteen.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Kickoff. The Mormons are tough.

Speaker 9 (58:44):
The Mid American Conference leader of the Miami RedHawks four
and oh A top that league. After their win Saturday,
LSU let go Brian Kelly. He's owed fifty four million
dollars in buyout money. The Tigers are five and three,
two and three in the SEC. They also let go
of their offensive coordinator Joe Sloan. How is he the

(59:06):
t other law of Scott Sloan? Scott Sloan is gonna do?
What with LSU?

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Well, no, Joe Sloan is his brother in law. He's
leaving LSU. Yeah, they gassed him today. Now is Brian
Kelly going to be the new coach at Penn State?
They say Penn State's going after him big time. There's
this set off though on the LSU money. I set
off What you think about that? What's that mean? He
gets like half of what he well, the buyout goes
away over the four years that remained. Yeah, Oh that's right.

(59:34):
So yeah, set off the amount of money he makes
somewhere else against fifty four mil. Now, were you at
the departure of Brian Kelly when he coached UC. Yes,
and then I got the Notre Downtown at the West
and explain what happened. They had the banquet down there
to the Orange Bowler Sugar Bowlers. Yeah, and they they announced.
He announces inside that he's leaving for Notre Dame.

Speaker 9 (59:58):
What happened? He left that, he left the banquet, Hale,
what happened? And he is surrounded by Cincinnati police and
people are booing him and throwing stuff at him and
going crazy. The faith and he gets into that, He
gets into an suv and heads to South Bend.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
The faithful or not happy? Is that fair to say? Yeah?
Now Notre Dame feels exactly the same way about Brian Kelly, who,
by the way, the all time winning US Notre Dame
coach is Brian Kelly. Right, he recruited these kids, telling
him I'm staying. He then leaves to LSU for the moolah,
the green let us to Salvation. So you see, non
accompass men. It's not welcomed Notre Dame. Brian Kelly not welcomed. Brian,

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I think we're gonna have Rocky address that issue. LSU
not welcomed, But now Penn State wants him. Now we
say congratulations. In high school football, the park is in.

Speaker 9 (01:00:50):
Tell me the park is in the playoffs against Anna
this weekend to play a woman not Anna, and your
your basketball team went unscored. What do you usually say?

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Undefeated, untied, unscored on that's the Taft Senators. They went
ten to zero. They're in the playoffs.

Speaker 9 (01:01:09):
They outscored their opponents three hundred and fifty to nothing
and a seven game shoutout streak that started September twelfth.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
The Talf Senators. What are rolling? Get them to play defense?

Speaker 9 (01:01:22):
At pay Corps Soccer MLS first Round tonight, Best of
three series, Game one, Columbus Crew VFC Cincinnati. Where hell
is real in the West End six fifteen, Fox Sports
thirteen sixty.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
I got a report from all got Ron's roost that
you were there at the buffet line and you had
to be asked to step away. According to Ron Junior,
you pulled a chair up to the buffet line, used
Lato started eating out of the dishes. Is that true?

Speaker 9 (01:01:49):
I don't I don't like when people see me do that,
but yes. Baseball Game three of the World Series tonight,
Blue Jays and Dodgers in LA was all tied one one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Can I give you a factor it on that? Go ahead?
Max Scherzer is the only pitcher in baseball history to
pitch for four different teams in the World Series. Also
Willie women's basketball, We say all the best of d
Alexander Hurt, former person Mary and Great and headed to
the Cincinnati Bearcats women's team.

Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
Hurt.

Speaker 9 (01:02:20):
She's going to miss the first half of the season
with a lower body injury.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
What does that mean?

Speaker 9 (01:02:25):
Oh, I guess she's gonna be missed. I don't know, knee,
maybe I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Toe.

Speaker 9 (01:02:30):
The college basketball season begins one week from today.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
With Joe Burrow. It's the toe, it's the calf, it's
the knee, the wrist. It's the toe, and it's the calf.
It's the knee, and it's the wrist. And we also
want to say congratulations too, Tony Pike. How about Dave Lapham?
Does the PA announcer No, Dave Lapham's number.

Speaker 9 (01:02:53):
I don't think so. And they don't know which Super
Bowl he played in either. That's embarrassing. Charlie Lucan, the
former mayor of Cincinnati and King of Lucan's loft if
you can find it at the hard Rock, eh, Charlie
Lucan with a hole in one?

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
What one?

Speaker 9 (01:03:10):
And sixty three yards seventh hole of O'Banion Creek.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
I've played there many times in many guys. Is Jink
right in the cup? Is he playing with Chanz Lucan?
I don't know what about Brendan. Call call him up.
Let's give him a call. So call him up.

Speaker 9 (01:03:26):
Chas Lucan with a hole in one I guess sometime
over the weekend O'Banion Creek one and sixty three yards.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
So he is now tied with you for holes in one,
Bruce Rid, he's head fourteen. So now what else? This
is dangerous? Are you ready? See? If Lucan picks off,
picks up, we're gonna have to have a live update
on how and the hell did he do this? I
don't know. See he's not picking up, he's he's an

(01:03:56):
afant's loft. What I do now? Alright, Chad, watch your
language live on the air. As you got in trouble,
lest I spent a year. I got in trouble to
get easy. Now tell tell chance what happened. Well, this
is a news item, Charlie. Congratulations.

Speaker 9 (01:04:11):
We just mentioned you your hole in one number seventh
hole of Obanion Creek one hundred and sixty three yards
over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Congratulations, give me an update on the hole on one chas.
I appreciate it sake. I saw he sent me congratulation. Really,
I know you ha have feathered and eight.

Speaker 10 (01:04:30):
Iron in there, but I fet to stand on a
six iron to get it there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
But was it high?

Speaker 10 (01:04:36):
It was a lot of fun. It's a it's a
great You've probably done it many times one I've done
it one time, one time with him. I'm the only
one of my group have it won. Bruce Roddy's had fourteen.
I've had one in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Dunked it. But it's the great the greatest feeling of
the clothes on you're ever going to have. It's a
little surreal, to be honest with you. I just kind
of just was in stun silent for a second. It
was great fun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
It was great fun.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
I understand they don't get to hear all.

Speaker 10 (01:05:07):
But I understand that every once in a while, you're
still on a clip of me saying something stupid, inappropriate, stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Yeah, well, well we have we have the chance cuts
to live an in for me God gone but not forgotten,
Gone but not forgotten. And we play the cuts at
an appropriate moment. We can't get any from the current.
He won't come on with me. If you're the last mayor,
Cranley would come on. I wonder, why have you thought.

Speaker 10 (01:05:34):
About seeing I can't imagine you seem to have such
a warm relationship with him.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Well, Iris really got a hold of me. She wants
to come on at some point. You know what I said, Yes, yes, yes,
I'm never on a heartbeat. Have you thought about seasoned
power again and ruling for a thousand years?

Speaker 11 (01:05:53):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
No, I mean you know that's between you and Brendan.
I'm in the weeds. You're in the weeds.

Speaker 10 (01:05:59):
I'm smoking president of the Chamber.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
I tell you he runs a good outfit. I went
to the Taste in Octoberfest, but chance we got to go.
We're going to play a couple of your cuts for you. Thanks.
See that worked pretty good work on seven hundred WLW
all right, Drew from Elder High School hit the music.
I'm going to open up the telephone lines now. I

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think Rusty from Trip City's going to be first. Obviously,
the Bengals management, the ownership, the coaching have no idea
what they're doing. Blind dumbbe fottled fools, one type or another.
Lou Anarumo took the hit over the off season for
having a bad defense. He now finds himself in Annapolis

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with maybe the best team in the AFC, and the
defense is sixth or seventh in the league. So here's
the deal. We have five lines. I'm sorry, three lines
are open. Five to one, three, seven, four, nine, seven
thousand or pound seven hundred. You're going to either one,
and if you pass the muster of Drew from Elder

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High School, my producer Dujore, you will be on the
air with me, which is an honor by itself when
you think about it. And when the lines are full,
each person will be given no more than one minute.
So if your call is answered and you pass muster,
whatever the hell muster is, then you'll be on the
air with me and you'll be given thirty seconds to

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one minute for the legendary fast break. To offer advice
to the Bengals ownership, management, coaches, or the players as
far as what went right, what's gone wrong, how to
correct it. They've given up seventy points in the last
two games against the horsepucky teams that stink. The Jets

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particularly stink. They took down their starting quarterback Taylor earlier
in the week, and they also lost Sauce Gardner on
the defensive side. They also have their two top wide
receivers not playing. They're hurt too, So this was a
decimated This was an awful Jets team that beat the
crap out of the Bengals. All the expert analysts say

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that Bengals are done. But the long suffering Bengals fans,
of which I consider myself a part, I want to give.
If you want to give advice to the coaches, the players,
the ownership, Now it's your chance. I'll go to the calls.
Now we have Rusty from Tip City, and Tim and
Mike and Campbell County and many others. Each caller will

(01:08:32):
be given thirty seconds to one minute. The legendary fast
break is underway, and often take calls. But these are
desperate times and defferent times. Desperate times call for desperate measures,
and right now we are desperate and we need something.
The Bengals sign up, according to the county commissioners, for
another ten years. All right, we got all lines full.

(01:08:54):
Each caller is given thirty seconds to one minute. Say
hi to Drew when you call in the producer Doujore
from Elder High School, who, by the way ten and zero.
The best high school experience I've ever had was going
to the going to the Elder game against Muller High
School in the pit and to watch that atmosphere, to
be there with tailgating with Johnny Kraft at all with

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father Anthony Brouch. I saw the head football coach Ramsey,
and I gave him a ward or two. I told
him the Maller faithful told me they're going to kick
the crap out of Elder tonight in the pit. That
didn't turn out. So well, let's go to the calls.
Now you get thirty seconds to a minute, get your
thoughts together, comments on the Bengals went right? What went wrong?

(01:09:38):
Nothing went right except the offense and do you have hope?
Let's begin with Rusty and Trip City. Rusty, Welcome to
the Bill Cunningham Show. Rusty, what do you got?

Speaker 6 (01:09:49):
Thanks for taking my call, Willie, And it is Zach Toulah.
I've been a long time ticket season ticket holder. I
didn't like him in the guin you go, but anyway,
it doesn't seem, you know, like the beginning of the
season we've been complaining about for years. Yes, he doesn't
seem like he's a head coach. He refuses to change

(01:10:12):
who's played call flake, you know, play calling. I have
an article. You may want to take this down.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Let me write it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
Down, Steven, Are you I z this article was reden. Yeah,
it was written after the Super Bowl year and questioning
Zach Taylor then, so that was after the super Bowl.
But anyway, it's it's it's sad, it's it's disgusting.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Have you lost hope? Do you have hope?

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
Not?

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
As long as that's there. I have all kinds of hope.
If he's gone, shouldn't you be coaching?

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Like in high school summer? He seems like a nice guy,
seems like a good family man. Uh, he's like mister Rogers,
nice guy. He held the news conference and says, you
know what this does? This? He said this disappointed me.
I said, really, we just got to play better, that's
all A said. Well, he's got a firm breass in the.

Speaker 6 (01:11:12):
That's his job is to make him play better. And
Lou Lou just two years ago was one of the
most attractive attractive coaches there was out there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
And they foure him. We got to run, but Rusty
I got it down. I got it right here, Steven Ruiz,
I'm looking him up all right. Thank you God, bless America.
We got Mason now, the home of the Comets and
the transmitter Tim from Mason. Tim, we need hope, give
me your analysis.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
I have no hope.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
I think the curse of the Schnarf has been placed
on the Bengals. I think that lou Amaruo and Teresa
Siji share in the Scapegoat title. I think that's the
new thing.

Speaker 7 (01:11:53):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
You got to do a Fiji on people. That's what
they did to Amarumo. And you know, the only thing
I blame the fans Mike Brown. I don't blame him
for just sitting there and counting all that money that
comes in. He's never going to change. Last time they
changed is when the fans stopped coming during the Marvin
Lewis era and there was the stadium deals and stuff
going like, oh, we got to do something cosmetically here,

(01:12:15):
let's get rid of starving Marvin laughing Marvin. So they
did that as long as you keep buying their tickets.
And by the way, the renewals went out Friday with
huge increases. Hope y'all enjoy that. So as long as
you keep buying the tickets and the twenty dollars beers
and the ten dollars hot dogs and one hundred dollars
parking passes, they're never going to change. Now I'm here,
you're running ads on your radio station with Dan Hord

(01:12:38):
and Dave Lapdog saying that there's a waiting list you
can pay hundreds of dollars to get on the list,
to sign up for writing big checks to mikey boy
to watch these fiascos every week. I mean, it's a
joke the fans. As long as you keep sending him
your money, he's never going to change. And don't tell
me that Katie and her daughters are any different genetic thing.

(01:13:00):
We're stuck with the Brown family. They're not going to
sell the team. They're only going to make cosmetic changes.
As long as Mike Brown his family own this team,
Cincinnati will never win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
Tim, thanks for your comments. I'll pass them on. Thank
you for your comments. Let's go to Mike and Campbell County,
the home of the Campbell's, and then another Tim and
Mike and Campbell County, give me a full report. What
advice do you give to the Bengals.

Speaker 12 (01:13:26):
Willie, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
My comment is.

Speaker 12 (01:13:30):
We know they're not going to fire as actual They
never fire a coach in the middle of.

Speaker 7 (01:13:35):
The season, not a head coach anyway.

Speaker 12 (01:13:37):
I say, Mike Zimmer sitting in Independence, he wanted to
come here when they fired Lou He even volunteered to
be a consultant to help him find a coach. Call
Mike Zimmer. That was one of the best defenses they
ever had when he was here. Good miss Starvin.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Marvin Zimmer's a good man, head coaching experience with the Vikings.
He lives in our community, driven by his farm in Independence.
It's a wonderful facility. I'll pass on. That's a good
name because unless Zach Shule is let go, nothing's going
to change. And I don't want to. I'd rather be
a great person as opposed to being a great coach.

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And Zach Shul is a great person. He's a good husband,
a good father, nice guy, got his hat on crooked,
doesn't know what he's doing. It reminds me of Dave Schule.
I'm sure Dave was a nice guy. And Gary Reesener
pulls down his hat. That reminded me of Zach Taylor.
He's just somebody that's fell into something making five million
bucks a year and he's going nowhere because the Brown

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family's not going to pay him five million dollars next year.
He's signed through twenty twenty six. But Mike Zimmer will
be an excellent option. Let's continue now, go to Tim
in Cincinnati, and then Rob and Rick and Jack and
Mike and many others and Tim, Welcome to the Bill
Cunningham Show. Tim give the Brown family your advice.

Speaker 13 (01:15:00):
Well, first off, Willie, thanks for taking my call. Fellow,
well wildcat there sucks if they lost on Friday. Anyway,
they need to go back to what has been working.
Case Brown has been running the ball. Continue running the ball,
use up the clock, park management, use what works.

Speaker 11 (01:15:21):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:22):
That's all I got about.

Speaker 3 (01:15:23):
How about the fact they can't play defense. I mean,
the Bengals have the worst defense in the National Football
League and I call them the Matadors. Someone gets around them,
they step to the side. Looks like Henderson's going to
be out because of the cheap shot and the drafting
by Duke Tobin's been awful and terrible, not held to account,
has been there for years. He's a good friend of

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Mike Brown, who, by the way, just turned ninety years old.
And I'm wondering, what what does Mike Brown know at
the age of ninety. I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:15:52):
I can't answer that one. But I mean defense, arm tackling.
You can't tackle somebody with just your horn, especially in
the proof in the National Football Weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Thank you for your call. The Bengals management's writing these
names and numbers down. Let's go to Robin Trenton, the
home of the Beer Company and the Robin Trenton. Welcome
to the Bill Cunningham Show. Rob, give me a full report.

Speaker 11 (01:16:16):
Thank you, Bill, four year season ticket holder, lifetime Bengal lover.
And the bottom line is this team is never going
to be nothing until.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
The Browns relinquish controlled.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Good luck they have.

Speaker 11 (01:16:34):
I agree, they have money, lifetime of money generations. But
zach Shula and that's great what you're calling, because that's the.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Fact, because he looks like a deer INADLFE.

Speaker 3 (01:16:50):
You know, you know, Rob, we just got to play better,
that's all we just got. We just got to play better.

Speaker 11 (01:16:54):
No, you know, want you don't want Willie. We got
to get tough, you know better?

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Yeah, I gotta play better. Well, he's got a firm
gress in the album you can't play worse? How do
you play worse?

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
You you can't?

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
You can't.

Speaker 11 (01:17:12):
That is the sorious line I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 3 (01:17:18):
Lazy and that no way's account. But do you think
the players fear Zach Sueler? Do you think they say, man,
I gotta be careful.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
You what, He's the.

Speaker 11 (01:17:32):
Guy got his head stuck in the toilet in high school.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
All right, thanks for your call. I'm waiting for something positive, Drew.
I'm sure it's coming at some point. Rick. And then
we have Jack and Mike and Terry and Luigi and
Rick in Western Hill's the home of the Western Bowl,
and of course Ron's rus Rick. What do you got?

Speaker 14 (01:17:52):
I think the players are pretty good. I think that
they're they're completely out of shape. I see it when
they practice show clips on them on the news. They're
they're they're wearing shoulder pants and helmets, but they don't
wear pants, so they're they're weren't around in Jim Schwartz
and so they're not tackling, they're not having contact practices.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
And so when they come to.

Speaker 14 (01:18:11):
Play on Sunday, they're not ready to go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
And that's all on the coaching.

Speaker 14 (01:18:15):
And there this was addressed before they should Bengal should
have tackling practice, and Dave Lapping was asked said, well,
least they're worried about injuries. You know, in in tackling
and practice makes you hard.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
It hardens your body. Seek it from getting hurt.

Speaker 14 (01:18:32):
And lastly, I want them to run the stadium steps
for one set around the entire stadium there at Paul
Brown Stadium for every touchdown a defense lit up. They
should run them like they did back in high school
and we delayed an egg. They made us run all
week long and they have that we just pour out
the next week team.

Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
So they need to get hard on the team.

Speaker 14 (01:18:54):
They need them go instead of watching film today, make
them go run the stadium and stuff in full equipment,
has no contact and they make sure that they have
contact football the rest of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Now let me write that down. Run the stadium steps.
I can remember at Deer Park High School, which by
the way, has a Levey up the next week, which
needs to pass. It's a great high school run by
good people. Money's being saved by Deer Park High School
Community schools. But at deer Park we had to run
the steps. We had to go up and down, up
and down. Jerry Wood would beat us with bull whips.
We used to run, run, run, and Marty Langhorse always

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his first I was second. Go down the hallway, up
the steps, second floor, down the hallway, up the third floor,
up the steps, down the hallway, come back down the steps,
down the steps, and if we screwed up, we had
to get on the line, blew the whistle. We touched
the mid court line and back we touched the foul line,
and back we touched the out of the baseline and
back we ran, ran, ran. That's all we did was run,

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And it's a consequence. We learned that bad behavior has
bad consequences and good behavior is good consequences. We need
to have that good old fashioned attitude of a Vince Lombardi,
someone that treated the player as well, but the man
in victory always victory. We have a head coach who
simply is a nice guy, who's a good husband, good father,
would be a good friend and a good neighbor. The

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only thing he hate out a problem with as coaching
an NFL football team. Let's go to Jack and Harrison
the home at J ATM and also a rocky Boyman
and Mike and Indian Hill. He must be rich, Jack
and Harrison. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. What do
you got, mister Cunningham.

Speaker 15 (01:20:23):
I consider it an honor and a privilege.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
To speak to you, sir, God bless them and you.

Speaker 15 (01:20:28):
You have always been the voice of the hard working
man of Cincinnati. Yes, and you're the voice of common
sense and what I'm gonna give you the answer?

Speaker 3 (01:20:35):
Let me have it.

Speaker 15 (01:20:36):
Dave Rapham, jive.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
Dave Rapham the whistle.

Speaker 6 (01:20:39):
Send Jack Packing Zack Packen.

Speaker 15 (01:20:41):
I'm telling you, Dave Lapham would take this team. He's
everything that great coaches are made.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Yes, he played every position. He played every position.

Speaker 15 (01:20:51):
He knows the game better than you or I do
put together. He knows every crack and every seam of football.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
He knows it all. I'm gonna call Dan Lapham if
you and the.

Speaker 15 (01:21:00):
Other request to you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Yeah, what is it? What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
Can I do the timp star thing with you?

Speaker 7 (01:21:05):
Just one time in my life? Can I do it
with you?

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
Are you ready? At them?

Speaker 13 (01:21:09):
Ready?

Speaker 15 (01:21:10):
Already?

Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
I'm gonna say three two one does do it together?
Three two one temp star star. I love America, God
bless her.

Speaker 15 (01:21:22):
You're a legend.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
I am in my own mind. Thank you. And by
the way, the public address announcer has got to learn
Dave Lapham's number. It wasn't sixty three, it was sixty two.
And he's got to learn what Super Bowl Dave Lapham
played in. Let's continue with Mike and Indian Hill. He
must be rich. Mike and Indian Hill. Welcome to the
Bill Cunningham Show. Mike, how are you, Willy?

Speaker 2 (01:21:43):
I'm doing well? How are you, buddy?

Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
I need advice and consultations right now? What what advice
do you give? Mikey boy ground?

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
So I'm turning the tables on you. Aaron Glenn, who's
h to seven los a play with a half back
pass to breathe? Who throws to our best dB?

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
And we can't stop that?

Speaker 7 (01:22:04):
Wouldn't new media say?

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
What wouldn't new media say if we.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Knocked that ball down?

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
Well, the defensive back didn't have his head turned around.
He had nothing else to do. Everything that could go
wrong went wrong. There was no adjustments at halftime. Whatever
they were winning twenty four to thirteen at the half,
And did I share with you the text on my
ex account I put out at the halftime, and my
text got progressively worse. I said, it's the half Bengals

(01:22:31):
beating up on the lowly Jets twenty four to thirteen.
I know, I know you might snicker about this. I
know you might. But but as far as the Bengals
are concerned, what if the Bengals are ten and five
Flacco has led them to glory and Joe Burrow feels
better the middle of December? Do you sit down, Joe
Flacco and play Joe Burrow? Most people said, no, let

(01:22:53):
him play at this. Oh, you got to get Burrow
a chance. But Burrow between his toe and his caff
and his knee and his wrist, from the toe to
the calf to the knee, the guy's hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
How differently would the New York media treat oh Dack
than the Cyminnati the media.

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Truth, They would run him out of town. Gone, it'd
run him out of town.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Gone. You got to get rid of him.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
And I can't say loudly enough he's a good man,
a good father, a good husband, a good neighbor, a
good friend. The only thing he can't do is coach
NFL football. Other though that, he's great. Thanks for your call.
We'll do this again at some point we have full lines.
I got to him as time allows to twenty six
home a year. Bengals News Radio seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 16 (01:23:39):
Yeah, I wish I had that reason for you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
You know, it's.

Speaker 16 (01:23:42):
Just someone's got to set them make play.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Someone's got to.

Speaker 16 (01:23:45):
Make play either way, just to separate that game for us.
Great turnover, get it on the ground, a third down win, offensively,
explosive play in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
It's never happened for us.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
When the defense started to face a versity, you feel
like it's snowballed on that group.

Speaker 16 (01:24:00):
Yeah, we just need somebody to rise up and make
a play. Someone just just hold the ford down, you know.
And and I didn't see enough of that today.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
Oh hello, hello.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Yet and I'm I'm broadcasting god Sega. I have Jim
Tressell coming up, the Lieutenant governor of Ohio in about
fifteen minutes. Is he gonna take LSU take over l
s U, Penn stay in state or Florida or the Bengals.

(01:24:34):
The Bengal fak calling for a Scalp Zach shul As Scalp.
They won shula and segment. Jim Trust Jim Tresselill won
a national title. That's all I can tell you. He'll
be here in about fifteen minutes to talk about taking
over l s U ben State, Florida, Oklahoma State us
CEU U c l A or the Bengals will eve

(01:24:57):
the STUOT reporters appro service of your local temp star
are heating and air conditioning dealers.

Speaker 9 (01:25:02):
Tame star quality you could feel in beautiful northern Kentucky.
Call any weather heating an air at eight five, nine
seventy eight, one forty eight twenty two segue.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
I opened up the lines. Who had some great suggestions
from the Bengals fans about what to do to make
the Bengals better? I wrote down many of the answers.
Who do I communicate those two? I don't know with
the Bengals, I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:25:27):
Like who Duke Tobyn, Yeah, she'll call him now, you know,
Troy Blackburn would be the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Hey, I like that guy.

Speaker 9 (01:25:34):
Yeah, Troy, Troy Blackburn listened stuff so he would he
would listen to you. What about lou An Arumo, He's
in Indianapolis, Love and life can't do the job? Can
he not?

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
Here?

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Notre names al.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
Golden We careful what you wish for.

Speaker 3 (01:25:49):
There's chance has had the hole in one set over
the weekend number six at the Abanion Creek as that.

Speaker 9 (01:25:54):
Is number seven seven, one hundred and sixty three yards
like me missing that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:57):
I'm ask you know, I'm a little bit I know
about microphones and he think he's that character. Yeah. One
thing you should not do when you're putting Dave Lapham
in the ring of honor has announced he was the
Great number sixty three. Oops. Secondly, get the right super Bowl. Thirdly,
you got all these Bengal stars standing there, how about

(01:26:18):
introducing Isaac Curtis.

Speaker 9 (01:26:20):
But he he gave the jacket to Lamar Parrish, so
I think he was introduced. But there was other Bengals
that were there. I don't think they introduced him. Boomer
I don't know. Did he get a voucher to get
a hot dog?

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
Boomer was there, but no one announced these Bengal stars
that you could come up with a paragraph on each.
Let the fans.

Speaker 9 (01:26:40):
Here's Boomer assiasin Great number seven in May Dylon Corey Dillon,
get him out. How about Anthony Anderson, Anthony Munos, Max Montoya.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Why wouldn't you introduce the Bengal players? And you got
to get the number right of Dave lapham am I
right or wrong? He's only been with a team for
fifty years, but a great number six, Johnny.

Speaker 9 (01:27:01):
Bench Bengals home this Sunday, We'll lead to the Chicago Bears.
The monsters of the Midway come to town and the
Bengals are two and a half point underdogs to the Bears.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
More tonight on Bengals Line.

Speaker 9 (01:27:14):
Talk about that debacle yesterday, underdog five here on seven
hundred ww.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
How can you be the underdog to the Bears? They
stink well, they won four straight before yesterday, then they
get beat by Baltimore and then they're coming here.

Speaker 9 (01:27:29):
College football Cincinnata Bearcats move up four spots to seventeenth.
This week in the AP Pole, you see co leaders
of the Big twelve at seven and one face a
big test on the road Saturday night at the Utah Utes,
who are rated twenty fourth in the nation.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Got a big test.

Speaker 9 (01:27:48):
MLS Soccer first round playoffs to night game one of
the best of three Columbus Crew, Where Hell is in
the West end of TQL Stadium against our beloved Orange
and Blue. Orange and Blue all the Way with Ted
McKay Action six point fifteen on Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

Speaker 13 (01:28:08):
Let's not wait for hell to freeze over here?

Speaker 9 (01:28:10):
Baseball Game three of the World Series tonight, Blue Jayson
Dodgers in LA Series one to one, next three, I
think you're in LA.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
How about this factoid, no pitcher in baseball history It
started four different World Series for four different teams. Tonight
it happens Matt max Suser.

Speaker 9 (01:28:28):
How about that college basketball season begins in Ernest Willie,
It starts to count one week from today. I can't
believe that one week from today college basketball season begins.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
What about Xavier? What about Andy mack? Xavi's playing and uh,
you know, I don't know. Why don't we get Andy
Mack in here?

Speaker 9 (01:28:46):
On Andy mcmibe, he'll be in here probably that well,
you want him in Halloween?

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Yeah, let's get him in all right? How about Jack
Nicholas is suing for deformation the individuals who have to
fame Jack Nicholas. I know he won a court case
of fifty billion, didn't he against the Nicholas Companies. He
did it for his family and for his little legacy

(01:29:12):
eighty five years old. I won't be wrong that much longer.
So I don't know if he can collect the fifty mil.
But we'll say about that, Jack Nicholas suwing the Jerry
cleared company executives in Jack's former business partners not being
Howard Millstein and Andrew O'Brien, but others now, let the
appeals begin, that's for sure. Jack Nicholas says, Nil, I

(01:29:34):
have name, image and likeness. I want to protect my
Nil says Jack, Go ahead and do what else? See
what else is going on here? College hockey?

Speaker 9 (01:29:44):
Will he those Miami RedHawks who won just three times
last season? They're six and oh to start this year?

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Really?

Speaker 9 (01:29:52):
How about that they host Arizona State in Oxford Friday
and Saturday. How about that in the football in the
Miami f Redhawk's football team and Chuck Martin lead the
MAC the Mid American Conference at four and oh.

Speaker 3 (01:30:06):
Nicholas filed the lawsuit in twenty twenty three, accusing his
two former associates of orchestrating a campaign to damage his
reputation as they held control of the company built on
his name. Nicholas's attorney said his former partner circulated rumors
that Nicholas had dementia, was no longer mentally fit to
manage his affairs, and secretly negotiated seven to fifty million

(01:30:27):
dollars buyout oops and said they also said he wanted
to go.

Speaker 9 (01:30:31):
They said he wanted to go to the live tour right,
but he said nava banam pga all the way with
Ted McKay.

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
Well, Jack said enough is enough. I'm taking you to court.
You know, maybe I should take you to court for
the bad things you say about me of Ron's Roost.
What that's true? Charlie Laca just called in, So that's true.
Make a chance.

Speaker 9 (01:30:52):
I don't know about that if you missed it an
hour ago. Of course, the former mayor holding one on
over the weekend Saturday, number seven at Obanion Creek one
and sixty three yards.

Speaker 3 (01:31:05):
I ever play Obanion Creek. Make sure that you.

Speaker 9 (01:31:10):
Bowed down on whole number seven because Chaz got a
hole in one he had to put a plaque there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
He said. He feathered a six iron from one fifty
and dunked it with two hands over the top of
the rim. That did your hole in one go straight
in or have to roll in? I'm playing golf with
Bruce Roddy and Wally Sweeney. Yeah. I hit a seven
on number fourteen of ken Vu. There's two golf courses

(01:31:36):
in Kevin Country, correct, and I hit the ball. I
looked up and I didn't see it. I picked up
my tee, walked back to the cart and Bruce he said,
I think that one in. I go the fly really?
So I got down there. It wasn't on the green
and they're resting. In the bottom of the cup was

(01:31:57):
my multi colored golf ball and it had my name
on it, the Great American golf ball given to me
by Frank Zibell. Call today, swim this year, ACR Gunye
Pools and Spas. Call today, swim this year. And I
still have that ball, which I retrieved from the cup
and golf For the last fifty years, I've hit balls

(01:32:18):
in the hole near the hole leaning it never had
a hole in one. And this thing went in and
I didn't see it go in. Did chance see it
go in? And I don't know. You should find out
no matter what it went in, it went in. How
many holes in one of you had.

Speaker 9 (01:32:34):
Well at Western Hills put pot I had like three
or four.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
No, I mean a real golfer. No nothing, And by
the way, the magic Man needs to get involved with
some of these dealings with in the city. They have
Frost Brown Todd looking at these reasons as to why
the mayor hires a big time law firm to answer
the question why I did something? Why did I fire

(01:32:59):
Terreesha Fiji find out why I did it? So he's
gonna hire a law for him to tell him why
he did something. Does that make sense to you? No,
give me out of the Stuge report. We have Jim
Tressel already standing by to throw his hat in the
ring for the Penn State, LSU, Florida, Oklahoma State, UCLA
and the Bengals job should have become open. Do you

(01:33:20):
think Mike Brown would fire Zach Shuler before the end
of next year when his contracts up. Don't say give
me out of the Stuge report. Jim Tressel standing by Willie.

Speaker 9 (01:33:30):
We say happy birthday to one of our own today
the broadcast sheriff Happy birthday to Dave Keaton.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
Why'd you do that to Mike Marty Brenneman's microphone. Why
did you do that? I did not do that. Are
you sure? Yes? He suspects someone not happy with him,
not me. We leave you with the immortal words of
the Stooge Report. Ignorance is no defense. Jesz calls in
being you can't say I'm stupid, therefore I'm not liable.

(01:33:58):
But Jack Nicholas has successfully sued individuals who said number
one he hit dementia and number two He's going to
join the Live Tour. Jack Nicholas is eighty five years old,
going to join the Live Tour. Seg Man, your reaction unbelievable,
Andy Mack. Jim Trussell coming up at your home of
the Bengals News Radio seven hundred WW. Heate of Ohio is.

(01:34:19):
Jim Trussell has long routes in Youngstown and also in Columbus.
He's also now the Lieutenant Governor, appointed by Mike Dwine
about six eight months ago because of the departure of
John Eusta who became a US Senator. And Jim Trussell.
Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And of course
you're involved in this fitness challenge, today's registration, etc. Before

(01:34:42):
we get to that, can you tell me what rama
the Bengals. They have no defense. They have a great offense.
In fact, the last two games, Jim, the Bengals have
given up seventy points to really two bad offenses. And
they lost yesterday to a team that had lost ten
to six to Carolina the week before, and they demoted
the quarterback and then there were two wide receivers can't

(01:35:04):
play and the Bengals gave up thirty nine points. Can
you tell me what the hell's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:35:11):
You know, I can't build because I saw that the
Bengals bounce game and they played pretty good defense that day,
you know. But you know, the the NFL is a
it's a high powered league, and when people get on
a roll. But no, absolutely, as you and I have
talked before, you have to have offense, defense. They have

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special teams, and if you do without one of the three,
you're in trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Well, the Bengals are in trouble. And then they get
to the Chicago Bears coming to town on Sunday, and
maybe Flacco's going to play. He's got a sore shoulder,
and if not, there's some rumors maybe the UC quarterback
Brendan Soresby could could could quarterback the Bengals on Sunday.
Is that possible to take a kid out of college
and put him into the NFL.

Speaker 7 (01:35:57):
He's pretty good. I've seen him on TV. He's a
good player. But no, I don't think they'll allow that.
You know, maybe the Bengals could sign them to an
NIL deal and I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
Let's talk about the fitness you're involved in this. First
of all, for those who may not know what is
what is the Fitness Challenge?

Speaker 7 (01:36:15):
Well, Governor DeWine asked us about six or seven months
ago to start an initiative to challenge the youth of
our state to develop healthy habits. So we went to
work with the Department of Education and Department of Health
and some teachers and principles and people that run fitness
training centers, and we came up with the idea to

(01:36:36):
have this Fitness Challenge. And this was our first pilot
and it's for grades fourth through eighth and we have
about one hundred and eighty three thousand students involved in
it right now, a little over seven hundred schools. I
think in southwest Ohio we have close to thirty five
thousand kids just.

Speaker 17 (01:36:57):
Right down in your area and we're working on having
kids wherever they are right now in their fitness journey
start there, set some goals and we have.

Speaker 7 (01:37:12):
Three levels you can try to reach. You can get
a bronze medal, you can get a silver metal, gold medal,
and this one in particular is a ninety day challenge.
We're just a little over half done and we've had
so much interest, and we have a YouTube team, trustle

(01:37:33):
dot Ohio dot gov. That is we've got about one
hundred and twenty instructional videos all different activities, former Ohio
State men and women's student athletes demonstrating and we're finding
the kids are throwing out their booklets and they're they're
taking it home and they're having their parents get involved
and it's fitness, nutrition, and rest and so it's been

(01:37:58):
a lot of fun. And the sign up for the
second round actually begins today and the people that can
sign up are the Building Principles or if you're a
home school situation, you can sign up again that team
trustle dot Ohio dot gov. But we're hoping bill to

(01:38:18):
get up to about three hundred and fifty thousand kids
with around two and our goal for next fall is
see if we can get nearly every Ohio on grades
and we're actually going to add third grade to it,
Bill and grades three through eight. We're hoping we can
get nearly all of the students engaged and having fun
and developing those healthy habits.

Speaker 3 (01:38:42):
These numbers, so you're saying right now in Ohio, there's
one hundred and eighty three thousand kids between the fourth
and eighth grade already sign up. That's almost two hundred
thousand kids are signed up, and the goal is to
have another one hundred thousand. So this is somewhat below
the radar, isn't it. I mean I know everything, I
don't know nothing about this.

Speaker 7 (01:39:00):
Well, you know what, we did a bad job, But
we should have called you first to have you promoted
for us, because yeah, we've been traveling all over the state.
Peddy gin junior, who played in the NFL fourteen years
and played for US at Ohio State, is our challenge captain,
and he and I have been running around the state
and we've been in schools and Cincinnati, Dayton, Toledo, Lime,

(01:39:22):
all over the Cleveland Actor in Canton. We've been in
over fifty schools doing assemblies. I'm actually today doing an
assembly over in Sandusky, Ohio, just to get the kids
fired up about it and the teachers and the building
principles and the parents. And so that's why our people

(01:39:42):
got this opportunity for us to go on the air
with you. We don't want to be under the radar.
We want people excited about healthy habits.

Speaker 3 (01:39:49):
That's great. And lastly, are you going to run for
governor next year?

Speaker 7 (01:39:53):
No, I'm running for my life. I'm in the fitness program.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
You'll get segment don as an involve.

Speaker 7 (01:40:01):
You know, I'm focused on this and really, you know
Governor Dwine well enough to know he's gonna sprint through
the end right of his administration, and we're not gonna
do anything but spend every minute trying to hand off
as much good stuff as we can to the next
administration and then of course try to be helpful with them.
But uh uh, you know, I came aboard because Mike

(01:40:25):
Dwine is, in my mind, the best and he needed
someone to pin shit for a minute. And it's been
a joy. I've learned a lot. But I think I'll
go back to my unpaid consulting firm.

Speaker 3 (01:40:38):
I'll say one other thing. We need you badly. What
is the website? We have many people here needing to
work out. We got fat, flabby and flatulent employees everywhere
where where? Can employees do you have to be a
kid to do this? Or can we get segment Dennison involved?

Speaker 7 (01:40:54):
Well, you know third through eighth grade? Now you know
if if they could qualify mentally for being third to
eighth grader. Okay, we can go to Team Trussell, DOOT
Ohio dot GUV and they can be a part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
Hight. Jim, you're a great lieutenant governor, great coach of
Ohio State, won a national title. Now you're doing the
work of the Lord. I talked to Governor Mike DeWine.
What are you going to do when your retire? He says,
I have no idea. I'm going to run through the
finish line till January of twenty twenty seven, and you'll
probably become a trustee of miam University something like that.
But Jim Trussell, once again, thanks for coming on the

(01:41:28):
Bill Cunningham Show, and keep doing the Lord's work. Jim,
keep doing it.

Speaker 7 (01:41:32):
Thanks Bill, You're a great America.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
God bless America. Jim, Thank you very much. Let's continue
with more news coming up. You're home of the Bengals
and Reds. Maybe Jim Trussell could coach the Cincinnati Bengals
to glory. On News radio seven hundred WLW