12-8-25 Bengals Line

Lance and Lap react to the Bengals' loss to the Bills.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, let's get it going on this Monday night.
Of it's Monday, it must be Bengals Line, and that
means three hours of conversation breaking it all down. You'll
hear from coaches and players. We'll sort through thirty nine
thirty four, a loss in Buffalo yesterday. We'll look ahead
of the Ravens this weekend. Lance Bacallister, Dave Lapham, thanks
for joining us. Settle in. We've got you over the
course of those next three hours. And David, it couldn't

(00:44):
have started any better yesterday with the opening drive and
the way things were clicking. I felt good at fourteen
to three, I felt good at twenty one to eleven.
I felt really good at twenty eight to eighteen. I
allowed myself to run scenarios through my head, and I'm
thinking about what's going on and the rest of the vision,
and then seemingly, in the blink of an eye, it
goes from a ten point lead to an eleven point

(01:07):
deficit and everything changed.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
It did, I mean, and it did in like four
and a half five minutes. I mean, it was it
was amazing. Turnovers, you know, I mean, that's the that's
the plague, that's that's what every team wants to avoid
if they possibly can. They want to generate turnovers, cause
turnovers from the opposition, but they certainly don't want to
give the football away like the Bengals did. And for

(01:30):
Joe Burrow to have interceptions on back to back throws,
I haven't really checked with him yet to see if
that's ever happened to him at any level of football,
whether it be Pop Warner High school, college or the
National Football League. But that that is a rarity for sure.
And the bottom line is you just have to have

(01:51):
to finish drives. I mean, they Bengals had to lead
for three quarters three quarters of the football game, didn't
They didn't spit the bit till till the fourth quarter
of the of the game. But you have to you
have to give Buffalo credit. They just they wouldn't go away.
I mean when they got down by three scores, they're like,
you know, this game's not over. We're gonna keep Brian,

(02:11):
We're gonna keep doing what we do. And two quarterbacks
were off the charts, I mean, outstanding what they what
they are able to accomplish in the in the game yesterday.
But the big difference four touchdown passes Joe Burrow the
two interceptions. Uh you look at Josh Allen, three touchdown passes,

(02:32):
no interceptions. That was the that was the big difference
in the game, and that gave him a quarterback rating
a one thirty nine point seven. Uh perfect is what
one fifty four point seven or something like that or
one fifty seven point four whatever it is. Joe Burrow
one on six point seven pretty damn strong as well.
But those two interceptions were the difference in the game.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Boy, in a day, against the backdrop of a snow
globe like environment, with the snow coming down on a
Rockers crowd, you'd saying it was one of the loudest
crowds he's ever heard. You got two heavyweight quarterbacks, you've
got a Bengals lead, and I'm thinking of Steelers are
playing the Ravens. Somebody's gonna lose in that matchup. If
you get to five and eight. Now you're you're really

(03:12):
cooking about possibilities, and just we've seen so many times
that combination of a missed opportunities and the merging of
air so slim. It just everything has to go perfect,
and as you've alluded to it, just it wasn't perfect yesterday.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah. I mean when you're when you're playing against a
playoff caliber team like the Buffalo Bills, like you mentioned
the margin ferres nil, I mean, you have to play
as perfect the football game as you're capable of playing.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
And Davids you mentioned the word playoff. I was struck
in and listening to postgame interviews the number of different
players who alluded to the feel yesterday, and that's maybe
reinforces just how missed the opportunity was, because I think
everybody realized that was, in essence, a playoff game for
the Bengals. If you were going to make the playoffs,
you had to win yesterday.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, and it was a playoff atmosphere. Like you mention
in the raucous crowd, I mean they were they were
in full throat and they were off the charts.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Man.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Their support for the Buffalo Bills is second to none.
I mean, their psycho that fan base.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
It's a good work they were doing yesterday.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Exactly exactly. Yeah, he was. He was kind of scratching
his head over that one a little bit. But you know,
those are the kind of games you have to win
to make the playoffs, and the Bengals came up just short.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Let's uh, let's pick up a reaction immediately after the game.
Here is Dave with the coach, Zach Taylor.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Tough football game against the uh, the Buffalo Bills. Here
in Buffalo, Coach, it was well played, high scoring football game.
Your offense took advantage just about every position they had
other than a couple and uncharacteristically, Joe Borrow gets intercepted
on back to back possessions that obviously were a big

(04:50):
factor in the outcome. What did you think about your
offense overall?

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Yeah, we did a great job moving the ball and
found some success in the run game and got what
we needed guys we need in the run game, found
all success in the pass game. They made two great
plays on those turnovers in the fourth quarter and gave
them some momentum.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
The run game. I thought that U, samaj p Ron
and Chase Brown gave you a nice one two punch.
Thought that, Uh Samaji in particular, really I thought showed
some some power. He's got good foot speed to set
the speed, but man, he was he was thumping people
pretty well. He's an all around guy. I mean he
can run the football with power and speed, catch football

(05:29):
out of the backfield, tuck it away and keep the
football safe and gain yards after catch. And also he's
a hell of a blocker. I mean he'll stick his
nose right in there and blitz to pick up on.

Speaker 5 (05:39):
He Yeah, he's a great player. That's that's obviously where
we thought to get him back. And he and Chase
in combination with each other, I think are a great
danam of backs. They came from each other really well.
They understand what we're trying to get out of out
of each play that they're in there, and they both
are are huge value for us.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
You completed a high percentage your passes for significant yards
and four touchdown passes to hell, all of a hell
of a deal. You don't you don't get four touchdown
passes every week. In the National Football League. What about
your passing attack utilized the tight ends. I thought Gasiki
in particularly had a very strong game for you today,
didn't he.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, he did, and and I thought our offensive line
did a great job. Joe understood the coverages and where
they're trying to do. They do a good job disguising.
They tried to do a great job of taking away Jamar,
so we still want to try to get Jamar and
the ball, which we did in some different ways. But
it opens it up for a lot of other guys.
That's why you saw t you have the game he had.
I guess like he had the game he had. Andre
made some big plays for us, So we're okay doing that.

(06:34):
That's how they want to play a game.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, they were playing a lot of combination coverage on
on both Jamar and Tegue and changing it up a
little bit. That's when Gasiki obviously stepped up and took
advantage of his opportunities and and made plays. Is T.
Higgins he got stung a little bit there. He was
out for their snappers. So he had a pretty good
football game today. See Okay, Yeah he did.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
He responded well, and I think they just evaluated him
and he was good to go.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
So let's talk about your your defensive football team. Obviously,
a lot of points were scored, but honestly, I mean,
I'm not saying they played a great game, but I
thought that there were stretches where they were making plays.
I mean, Josh Allen is a tough guy to deal with.
He can he can throw the football and he's got
good accuracy. Maybe not as good this year as in
past years, but man, he's a big, strong guy that

(07:20):
can run. Big boy. He's uh, he's he's he's a load.
What about Josh Allen? How do you think the defense
did today defending him.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
Yeah, he's a tough player obviously, and they got a
great running back, great offensive line in front of him.
I think, you know, it comes down to those those
fourth down plays. There was there was four of them
to my eye, and they converted on three of them.
We got a huge stop on one at the end
of the second half, and ultimately it's it's like you said,
the guys, there was opportunities there where they did a
great job and first three downs and those fourth downs,
Allen did a great job extent of the play and

(07:50):
find a way to make one.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Speaking of a fourth down, you didn't really have to
do too many because your third down percentage was unbelievable.
I mean, I think it was like what eight over
eighty percent in the National Football League. To convert like
that on third down, that's that's extraordinary. It doesn't happen
every single week. What was the key to the success
converting on third down?

Speaker 5 (08:11):
I thought we had a great point, you know, agree
and players understood it, executed it, did their jobs, did
a great job protecting up front. Joe did a great
job with any checks he had to make and delivered a.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Balls Zach Taylor after the game. Plenty more to dissect,
breakdown and analyze as we navigate three hours tonight, we'll
hear from QB one Joe Burrow ahead, He's Dave Lapham,
I glance, but Catleister, thanks for being with us tonight.
It is Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network and
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(08:41):
at Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio Network and seven
hundred WILW laants but Catlister hanging out with Dave Lapham
Joe Burrow Yesterday twenty five of thirty six passing two
hundred and eighty four yards. He was sacked just one
time through four touchdowns. The two picks final quarterback rating
of one six point seven. Here's QB one after the game.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
Can we get your vantage.

Speaker 7 (09:03):
Point on on what happened on those you interception?

Speaker 8 (09:06):
Yeah, great play, great plays by them. Uh, corner blitz
and you know, tryna throw a hot reaction and the
guy jumps up and catches it. Great play. Next one
tip ball lands in the right that guy's hands.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
So wow.

Speaker 8 (09:24):
Yeah, good plays by Now did.

Speaker 9 (09:25):
You feel like you guys were kind of playing the
exact type of game you wanted to play before.

Speaker 10 (09:30):
Those two, like exactly how you would have scripted.

Speaker 8 (09:32):
It out to build in. Yeah, we were playing pretty good.
We were playing pretty good. You know, we gotta we
gotta turn over in the red zone.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (09:41):
We spout it on a couple drives, but for the
most part, we were moving it pretty good. Uh, we
were in a good spot, a top child.

Speaker 11 (09:49):
Then was that first half especially and let them down perspective?

Speaker 12 (09:53):
And how did you walk out to the field in
the second.

Speaker 7 (09:57):
Half of when you was going through your mind?

Speaker 8 (09:59):
Yeah, we we were executing, We were executing, lamas protecting,
we were making plays. Uh, you know, we d we
were doing a good.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
Job, right, You put on differently on that? Then group.

Speaker 8 (10:15):
Could have thrown it higher, I guess, but the linebacker
was running out there underneath of it, so if I
threw it higher, he might've gotten involved too. Not really,
that was our reaction to that.

Speaker 7 (10:27):
Is this just one of those games?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Did you like the playoff game with the team.

Speaker 7 (10:30):
That just was able to make a couple of those plays?
We was gonna wait, did doel like that? And Don
went outstretch.

Speaker 8 (10:34):
Yeah, you know it was playoff, a playoff atmosphere. We
know what kind of game it was for us? Did
them too? And then? Uh yeah, it was just it
was intense out there. Guys are fighting their butts off.

Speaker 13 (10:50):
Those show me anything different uh than on than what
you saw a film this week.

Speaker 8 (10:56):
They always do do things a little different against us,
but that's what we expected. They were mixing a lot
of things up. They started pressure more in the second half.
I thought we handled it well. Wow, oh yeah, we
we kind of we knew what to expect. We knew
how they liked to play us from from past meetings.
And uh we had the answers when.

Speaker 14 (11:15):
You blobby hard for the team to sign the tachagainst
the admission to dur this off season, y'all just say,
didn't get much opportunity to see how it all looked.
Is this like what you would envisioned, the type of
office that you guys could be and the type of
outfit that you would be to an opponent when you
guys are.

Speaker 8 (11:32):
All being like you did today, Yeah, we know, we
know what we can be. We know what we can
do and when we execute. Uh, and we were able
to execute today for the most part. And uh, it's
gotta do more.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
School was at.

Speaker 15 (11:46):
Forward, throwing forward your last four games, your mental al
how'd you approach the last four names?

Speaker 8 (11:53):
Just go and play well? Uh, go and have fun
play football. That's what I love to do. So so
I'm gonna keep doing I'm gonna keep doing it at
a high level.

Speaker 11 (12:03):
Is a differ to have.

Speaker 7 (12:04):
Well, have played atmosphere today, but no one that you
know just might be the only try to get at
that deal of the season. Everyone got to do that
for the last couple of years, and now a frustrating
thing does that.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
All of us?

Speaker 8 (12:16):
Yeah, obviously we're not where where we wanna be, as
you know a team or an organization. Four nine is
not not good. Uh, but you know we got four
games to go and show high level execution, high level
play play making. Uh. I'm gonna realize the the opportunity

(12:37):
to to go out and play play with these guys
and continue to try to put on a show for
for everybody watching. I hope that, uh that comes across
and I hope that, Uh. I know, I'm gonna continue
to to work hard to put myself in a good
position to make plays.

Speaker 10 (12:53):
Is the word thing, Joe that you see most like help?

Speaker 13 (12:57):
The whole offense is help.

Speaker 11 (12:58):
You can help that you guys that you just might be.

Speaker 10 (13:01):
Out of time now with what out the business.

Speaker 8 (13:04):
Yeah, I mean that's uh, that's how the cookie crumbled
this year.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (13:10):
You know, obviously I would've loved to have been out
there more and and be able to to make an
impact by that wasn't the case. And you know, I
found my found my bet off to to get back
to this spot and to be able to be out
there with everybody and for our organization in the city.
So that's what we'm gonna continue to do. I Uh,

(13:33):
I take it very seriously. I I love what I
do and I'm gonna continue to do it.

Speaker 13 (13:38):
A play with a game, right, some of the catchers
that Higgins made today, what what do your so many
descriptions as to your relationship with him and how would
you do what to this make spectacular place like that?

Speaker 8 (13:49):
Yeah, teas great. Tea's great. Uh and both of those
guys that Jamorrow Tea know that teams are gonna have
different plans to take one of them away. And you
know they did not want Number one to beat them today,

(14:09):
and so when that happens, then he's got to step
up and make big plays, which he did and something
we would have liked to have back too. Mike g
made a ton of players today. We had guys making
plays all over the field, and you know, unfortunately we
just weren't able to pull it out.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Joe Burrow after the game and Dave I mentioned the
opening drive and it couldn't have started any better. They
win the toss, they decided to take the ball. They
go fourteen plays, sixty seven yards, click eight point fifteen
off the clock. They run seven times, they passed seven times,
They convert four third downs, t had three catches coming
back from the concussion, and everything was rolling right out

(14:47):
of the shoot.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
It really was. I mean, to go on a long
sustained drive like that, you know, out of the box,
the crowd is going nuts. You know, the best way
to silence them is do exactly what they did. And
you know, the crowd really really couldn't believe it. But
T Higgins, man, did he have a you know, I guess,
for lack of a better term of coming out party
after that, after that concussion. I mean, he was he

(15:09):
was phenomenal. Targeted eleven times, Joe Burrow was going to
him because Jamar was getting a lot of attention. Man,
he really was. And Higgins six catches ninety two yards
of twenty five yard touchdown another touchdown catch to tow
of Joe Burrow's four touchdown passes went to T Higgins,
and that one handed catch he made for the touchdown

(15:31):
was just, I mean, the thing of beauty. You talk
about eye hand coordination, athleticism and such a big body
guy to be able to do things like that. You know,
you'd expect, you know, a small, little you know, athlete
to be able to do those kind of things, but
to have the range and the size and the strength
that t. Higgins has and to be able to do
what he does in those situations separate him. I mean,

(15:53):
he's a very unique, rare talent.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
On the Benford picked six and by the way he
I read this morning, he becomes the first Buffalo Bill
to score a defensive touchdown and back to back games
in their franchise is history.

Speaker 16 (16:04):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
What did you see as that play unfolded? And what
a play he made?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, I think I think Joe basically was shocked that
he jumped so high, you know, I mean, it's the guy.
The guy had uh he had coverage on on that,
but he was kind of in between should I pressure?
Should I cover? You know, and and he was kind
of between the rocking and rocking a hard place. And
then Joe kind of was I guess a little bit too.

(16:29):
But and he thought he put enough loft on the ball.
You know, he tried to feather it in there, but uh, man,
ben for just he showed some athletics and man, I
mean he he skied for that thing, and then it
was it was an easy pick six. There was nobody
that was going to stop him. There's nobody in his way.
Nobody was going to deter him from uh running into
the end zone. But man, that was I'm sure. I'm

(16:50):
sure after right after Joe let that ball go out
of his head and was like, oh no, please no,
and it good football. Guds didn't no doubt, no doubt,
still ahead. Mike Kasicki had quite a day. We'll talk
about that here from him as we continue. It's Bengals
Line of the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
We continue on on this Monday night at Bengals Line,
Bengals Radio Network at seven hundred WLW. LANs but cantlester
Dave Lap I'm talking about yesterday's defeat at Buffalo thirty
nine thirty four of the final score. Let's stick on
the offensive side of things for a bit in this hour,
and Mike Kasicki six catches yesterday, six targets, six catches,
eighty six yards and a touchdown. He talks with Dave

(17:39):
after the game.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Mike, what was the what was the reason for your
what was the reason for your success? Did you expect
it during the course of the week when the game
plan was put together? Was it just something that took
place today? The way they covered you the way you
knew you could beat people. What took place today?

Speaker 17 (17:58):
Do you think there's always opportunity in the game plan.
It just depends on what comes up and how the
defenses are playing and the flow of the game. So
you know, you always anticipate, you know, going out there
and making plays.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
And today, you know, the.

Speaker 8 (18:12):
Ball came away a couple of times and I.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
Was able to make some plays. This was your This
is a big game for you, man, biggest game of
the year. You are a talented individual in terms of
you got great size. Uh what six 's five? Anyway,
aren't you? And U two hundred and twenty five and
thirty pounds? But can run and you're in the slot
today you were doing a lot of receiver work in

(18:36):
getting matchups mismatches on safeties and corner Is that a
big part of your game?

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (18:41):
I mean they just allow me to be me and
go out there and you know, maybe don't always run
their routes the you know, conventional way and how you
draw it up, but uh, you know, Joe allows me
to go out there and make plays, and he trusts
me to be where I'm supposed to be when I'm
spposed to be there, and uh you saw that today.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Mike, I know. Uh, the goal was to win the
last five games of the season, make a run and
go nine and eight. Didn't happen today, you know. So
now you're looking at at uh at what you're looking
at four and eight. So there are five games, four
games left, so you can go eight and nine. I'm
not saying that that's a lock for the playoffs, but

(19:22):
still a possibility, isn't it.

Speaker 17 (19:24):
Yeah, that's that's gonna be our best that's gonna be
our only chance. So it starts with Baltimore next week
and that's a big one, Divisional one and at home.
So uh, you know, you go out there and get
that win.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
I know that. Uh the locker room is disappointed, obviously,
but there there's not any quitting any of these guys.
I mean, you guys gave it everything you had out
there today, every single snap. You anticipate that for the
rest of the season, don't you.

Speaker 17 (19:44):
Yeah, you know it starts with Zach and you know
the the way that he coaches us, and he does
a phenomenal job, you know, just getting us all ready
to play, and we have great guys on this in
this team, in this locker room that are gonna, you know,
get get out there and be ready to work starting tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
I know the tight ends had a huge game today.
I know the Cincinnati tight end room is something that
you're proud of. You got a bunch of great teammates
in that in that tight end room. You have a
hell of a coach. To talk about your coach a
little bit.

Speaker 17 (20:13):
James is an unbelievable tight end coach has played seven
years in the league, has seen a lot, knows how
to coach, knows how to get the best out of
the guys, uses us all to our strengths and helps
us in you.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Know, every aspect of the game and in life.

Speaker 17 (20:29):
Can't say enough good things about James Casey, and you
know the impact that he's had on me in my career.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Mike is sicky on a heck of a day. Was
easily his best day of the year. He had his
high was four catches for thirty five yards in a
game going into yesterday six catches eighty six yards, and
it was a really good day for a guy who
They've got tight ends who all do something, but Mike
is the best of the group and he showed yesterday
the impact he can have on this offense.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Right, I agree with you, Lance, You know you got
tight end that that can block that sample, and he blocks,
probably a little more proficiently than he is his a
weapon in the passing game, although he can get it done.
I mean he can run routes and catch the football
and do all the things the tight end needs to do. GASICKI,

(21:16):
you know, is a guy that can do it all
really and he blocks, well, he's not a devastating blocker.
That's not his trademark, that's not his mo. But boy
is he a great receiver of the football. A lot
of his plays that he made yesterday from the slot,
you know, he ended up almost a member of the
wide receiver corps, like a big six foot five inch,

(21:38):
you know, two hundred and twenty five pound wide receiver
running really good routes. And Buffalo was paying a lot
of attention to Higgins eventually, and paid a lot of
attention from Jump Street With Jamar and once t I
think showed them that not only is he back, but
he's performing an high level, they started paying attention to

(22:00):
him as well. And uh, you know, he did have
five throws to him. Five targets that weren't weren't executed,
weren't finished, so they they did probably you know, have
more success in coverage on t Higgins and Gasiki stepped up,
you know what, when when needed. This guy is uh
is somebody that Joe Burrow can count on. Joe Burrow

(22:21):
loves to throw the football to Mikeasicki. He trusts them,
and that's that's a big thing with Joe Burrow. Trust
means that you're always where you're supposed to be when
you're supposed to be there, and no surprises. And that's
that's Mikeasicki. He is reliable, dependable, and the hell of
a talent.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
And you used to I think a keyword when needed,
because when you have somebody like Tea and you have
somebody like Jamar, they're going to command attention if you
don't have somebody else to make a defense pay and
that's Mike. And I think early in the season when
they went through that stretch without Mike he had that
I think it was the peck issue and he wasn't available.
But without him, it's a different look and it allows
teams to do things differently. In Mike when he's there.

(23:01):
He can make defenses.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Pay absolutely, and you know, and the tight end package
that the Bengals can use, the third tight ends Tanner Hudson, yep,
and that package that they can use. He's kind of like,
you know, he's a good, good receiver. The football runs good.
Rouse smart on the same page as Joe Borrow. Joe
Burrow trusts him implicitly as well, and he blocks decently.
I mean, they can use these guys as full backs,

(23:24):
they can use them as wing backs, they can use
them as slot receivers, tight ends at the end of
the line of scrimmage. They can go two and three
tight end packages. It gives a lot of versatility to
the Bengals offense and gives Dan Pitcher and Zach Taylor,
you know, tools to work with and weapons to employ
and keep the defense on their toes.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Boy and the Gasiki touchdown, I want to say that
capped off a twelve play drive. Buffalo had pulled within three.
Joe fires to strike down. He's sicky in the end zone.
It's now a ten point lead with eight forty four
to go, and you know, I'm writing down Gasiki play.
They touchdown decides the game and from there. I mean
that was twenty eight eighteen, and so much happened after

(24:03):
that in the final eight minutes.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
It's incredible the number of points that went up on
the board in the last eight minutes. It really is
was a track meet. And that five yard touchdown past
you right, Joe Borrow hum that bad boy.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
He put some RPM yes on that one. Did put
a jugs gun on it.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
He did the Kaski you know, soutam boring plucks it.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I mean, he is.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Kasiki is a talent, there's no, uh, no question about it.
And he he is somebody that Joe really looks to
in the in the red zone, the low red zone.
That's uh, you know, that's Kasiki's where he makes his
bread and butter.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Let's talk some defense when we come back. He's Dave
Lapham my glance. But callister, we appreciate you hanging out
with us tonight. Talk a little Bengals football and Bengals Line,
the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred wl W. You

(24:54):
we keep rolling right along on this Monday night at
Bengals Line and the Bengals Radio networking seven WLW on
the dock at early thirty nine thirty four, the final
numbers from Buffalo. Sorting through that, we'll look ahead of
the Baltimore Ravens as well. We've got fun facts with
Dan Horde and Joe Flacco later out of our third
hour as well. But let's jump into the defensive side
of things. Yesterday, Oron Burks, the veteran linebacker recovered a

(25:17):
fumble on a big play by DJ Turner. Here's oron
Burks with Dan.

Speaker 18 (25:21):
Horde, Aaron Burks, you recovered a fumble in the end zone.
At the moment, it looked like that might be the
play that ultimately helped Cincinnati win the game. Unfortunately that's
not the way it played out. But go back to
that play and how youphorick it must have felt at
the moment to get a stop inside the five.

Speaker 12 (25:39):
Yeah, obviously, you know, go on stand is a big deal.
Taking points off the board for them, and just good
things happen when you running the ball just all pop
out and hopped on it right away, so give them
us a chance. And then you know, office turn around
and got a great drive right after that. So we
just diden making enough plays to win the game. So
that's what it comes down to.

Speaker 16 (25:56):
But back to work.

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Back to work this.

Speaker 18 (25:57):
Week, Josh Allen to Unicorn, the way that he can
extend plays, the forty yard touchdown run that he had.
I mean sometimes you have to just say a great
player made plays.

Speaker 12 (26:10):
Yeah, he's a great player, you know, see it all
over the tape and just being out there with him,
he's able to improvise and you know, he's just a
great mind. He's been lead for a while, so he's
seeing every look, you know. But again, we just got
to find a way to make more poison. They did
and then and we weren't able to do that today.

Speaker 18 (26:25):
I think in the last two weeks, you guys have
showed with Joe Burroyd quarterback, you can go toe to
toe with anybody. Unfortunately, with the playoff math, it's you
face long odds to get in. How frustrating is it
to know that this team's pretty good. Unfortunately we might
not have a chance to extend our season.

Speaker 12 (26:41):
Yeah, we're just going to control what we can and
that's weekend a week out, just giving it our best
and getting out there to put something that we can
be proud of. So next week we're back on to
the Ravens and that's that's what we're focused on now.

Speaker 18 (26:52):
Up by ten fourth quarter, were you thinking, you know,
this one's going to be in the win column.

Speaker 12 (27:00):
I mean we think that the whole game. There's there's
no quit in this team. And I feel like that
was the mindset on the sideline. Everybody believe that, you know,
even at the end, we can find a way to
get that stopped and often scored to go down score,
but I just didn't didn't pan out that way. And
again just expect to work.

Speaker 18 (27:13):
What is kind of the mindset right now for the
team for where things stand after this lost.

Speaker 12 (27:19):
Yeah, it's frustrating. You know you can give draw every
week and just come up short, you know, one too
many times. And again I just keep saying, its back
to work. It's it's only so much you can control.
That's in the past now and controlling the what we
can do moving forward.

Speaker 18 (27:32):
Appreciate your time.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Oran burks with Dan Horde and that could have been
one of those moments you circle that's the play of
the game. They stop a touchdown at the lot it was.
It was just what you want from your defense. It's
a scoring opportunity for the Bills. DJ makes the instinctive
play and strips it away and oron falls on it,
and you're thinking, all right, this defense has stepped up
and they and they've saved the football game.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Absolutely. I mean that's the only turnover the Buffalo Bills had.
The Bengals had to the Bills had one of the
Bills go plus one in this kind of a game,
finishing plus in the turnover department. I think it is
and was a big deal. But yeah, the defense, I mean,
they made plays, you know, things would jump out like,

(28:16):
oh my God, like you were saying, oh my gosh,
this is it, this is gonna clinch the game. This
is the play of the game. Then yeah, then I
got a little surprise for you. Al Golden had to
be tearing his hair out by the roots, you know,
because it's on more than half the plays. I thought
the defense played winning football, you know, and I thought

(28:38):
they showed signs of improvement. I think they are starting
to gradually, you know, improve Now. Are they there yet? No,
they're not there yet. They have miles to go before
they rest. But I think they're gonna they can be.
They can be all They're never I don't think they're
gonna be this group right now. Until they get some
more snaps and years under their belt. Is not gonna
be a top three, top five group, but they can

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be a top twelve, top fifty defense and you know,
get in the top half of the league statistically. And
if they if they do that with the way this is,
Bengals offense can score points. I mean thirty nine to
thirty five. You scored thirty five points in the NFL.
You stamp it, man, it's a dub, you know, but
not so fast.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
In fact, along those lines are our friend Paul Dayner
Junior of the Athletic had this stat going back to
last season, and boy, oh boy, since the first week
of last season, teams around the NFL that score at
least thirty three points have gone one thirty six, ten
and two. The Bengals in that span, when scoring at

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least thirty three points have gone four and seven.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
So they're responsible for seven of the ten losses to
the league.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I think the league separated. I think that's everybody else.
But either way, I mean, think about that one thirty
six and that's a winning percentage of a like ninety
five and the Bengals are four and seven.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Yeah. Oh, and Bengals have a losing record. The Bengals
are sub five hundred.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
I mean, and here's speaking of friends. Joel Goodberry or
our friend Joe Goodberry had a stat on and it's
impossible to talk linebackers without talking to tight end. How
about this day. This season, the Bengals defense versus tight
ends has allowed ninety seven catches for twelve hundred yards
and fifteen touchdowns to opposing tight ends. Think about that,

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guys just rolled back at his hand. Crazy thirteen games
in ninety seven catches for twelve hundred yards and fifteen touchdowns.
They are averaging. Teams are averaging at the tight end
position against the Bengals ten and a half targets per game,
seven and a half catches per game, and ninety seven
yards per game.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
That's amazing. I mean, they're converting over at seventy percent
of the time in almost one hundred yards to the
tight ends every single game. And we were talking about
it at the end of night during the game. It's like, man,
I mean, the Bengals have struggled to stop the tight
end forever. It seems like tight ends have hurt the
Bengals franchise ever since the franchise has been has been formed.

(31:03):
I mean it is. It's unbelievable and it doesn't have
to be. You know, a Pro Bowl tight end either.
You know, if you're capable and you play the tight
end position, man, you're looking your chops hoping you get
the Bengals on your schedule. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
For the pace of a seventeen game season, that's a
pace out of the tight ends against the Bengals of
one hundred and twenty eight catch season for sixteen hundred
yards and twenty touchdowns. And man, I got to think
if you're an opposing offensive coordinator, you're sitting down to
look at the tape each week and go on, we
are targeting their linebackers.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah. Absolutely, And you know that Lamar Jackson is doing that.
He plays against the Bengals twice a year every year.
He knows what the Bengals are struggling with at the
tight end position, and he's got a Pro bowler at
that spot. So I mean he's going to utilize that. Dude.
And the pair of tight ends that hit the field
for the Buffalo Bills yesterday, Dalton Kincaid and Dawson Knox,

(31:59):
the two DK man, they did a job. They did
a job on the Bengals. They really did, and and
uh man over and over again when they needed a
big play. Yep, when when when things were on the line,
the tight end position got first look. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I was talking to a big fantasy football friend of mine.
He says, one of the easiest calls in fantasy football
each week is to start the tight end. Who goes
against the Bengals? Right, we just and if you don't
have them, pick them up on the waiver wire. Well,
head down the stretch on our first hour. Here from
DJ Turner who made the strip and more. It's Bengals
on in the Bengals Radio network and seven hundred w

(32:34):
l W. They hit down the stretch in our first
hour to out of Bengals on of the Bengals Radio
network and seven hundred wl you.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
At Lance's time for the cattering health injury report, and
there really wasn't anything significant. T Higgins got dinged up again,
hit his head on the turf. I went into the
into the the blue tent to get to get looked at,
and he was right back out in the football field.
Gotta have that blue tent quickly. And you know some
some minor you know bumps and bruises. I'm trying to

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think of the raven that was rolling his shoulder, you know,
trying to get that arm loose and keep his shoulder loose.
But he it was a linebacker. I'm thinking he only
made me missed a snap or two. So overall, for
as physical as that game was, as hard as they played,
they did avoid injury. And that's that's always good news.
And it's presented by Kettering Healthy, official healthcare provider of

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the Cincinnati Bengals, providing the best care for the best fans.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, and for a moment, I thought we'll talk about
tea later. Out of the hour, he came out of
the out of the tent. Okay, Joseph o' side left
briefly with the shin.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Yeah, he got right, So that was a good thing.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
So yeah, all all things considered, not bad on a
day like that. Let's pick it up with DJ Turner,
who turned in a big play in the game, got
the strip of the goal line yesterday. Here from our
friend Joe D Joe Danim at Fox nineteen, part of
its conversation with DJ Turner.

Speaker 11 (33:55):
Okay, hard one to swallow. How much respect do you
have for a guy like Josh Allen. Look, you guys
have one of the best quarterbacks in the league. So
today when you have a game against Josh Allen, how
difficult of a matchup is it.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, it's definitely a difficult one.

Speaker 19 (34:10):
Two top quarterbacks going at it, you know, but we
got to find a way to get that up.

Speaker 11 (34:16):
Okay, the big play at the goal line when the
fumble was forced, Can you take us through that play
and how the play was made?

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Uh?

Speaker 19 (34:22):
Yeah, I mean it was just on a like what
two or three yard line? Best options getting the ball out?
It's snowing cold, so you know, it's really what I
was going for.

Speaker 11 (34:32):
Is that something that is taught for you guys in
that situation to go for the ball?

Speaker 19 (34:36):
Yeah, for sure, we always try to go for the ball.

Speaker 11 (34:39):
It felt like momentum was on your side in the
second half. We've seen this team put away these games
so many different times. When a team makes a play
like Buffalo did with the pick six, how hard does
it take that kind of a punch and finish a game.

Speaker 19 (34:51):
Yeah, I mean it's hard, but we just have found
a way. That's really the biggest thing. Like two good
teams going you know, stuff gonna happen. We've got to
find a way, and just find a way.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
He does, just get a dupe.

Speaker 11 (35:02):
A lot of people in this room said this felt
like a playoff atmosphere today. Did it feel like that
to you?

Speaker 19 (35:06):
Yeah, I mean I would think so. I haven't played
in playoff yet, but I would think so.

Speaker 11 (35:12):
Okay, when this team looks at the rest of the
schedule now and you have four games left and the
four and nine, there was so much excitement DJ that
after you beat Baltimore and see if you guys could
run the table, what do you play for now?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Wait? Is that want to know? Every week?

Speaker 4 (35:26):
That's the only option.

Speaker 19 (35:29):
We was playing for the same thing we was this week,
you know. I mean, it's your film, our team. You know,
I do want to know every week, they don't matter
circumstance of anything.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
That's what we need to do every.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Week, DJ Turner. After the game, coming up hour two,
you'll hear from T Higgins, Jamar Chase, Geno Stone, and
a whole lot more to sort through from yesterday and
a thirty nine thirty four loss to those Buffalo Bills.
It's Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and seven
hundred WLW. Hey, welcome back again on Bengals on this

(36:05):
Monday night, about to unpack our number two of our
journey through Bengals conversation. Bengals fall to the Buffalo Bills
yesterday thirty nine thirty four, the final score. We've got
plenty to work through in this hour. Let's get into
the performance by t Higgins. We talked about the toughness
he showed yesterday, the return from the concussion. He's targeted

(36:25):
eleven times. He has six catches ninety two yards, an
average of fifteen point three a catch a long of
twenty five at touchdown two touchdowns on the day. Here
is Tea after the game on the performance and the loss.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
That catch you made that touchdown catch, It didn't even
not brace the Frida.

Speaker 20 (36:42):
Uh, I mean, man, just try to make a play
on the ball.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
And was able to.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
See how frustrating is given the fact that he guys
played pretty much the game you wanted to play for.
I had to say, yeah, Ages, it's a flipfles sweatch. Yeah.

Speaker 21 (36:58):
Man, it's very frustrating obviously like he wants to lose,
especially when he was up mostly the whole game.

Speaker 8 (37:03):
Uh.

Speaker 20 (37:03):
Those last two turnovers.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
You know it cost us.

Speaker 20 (37:05):
You can't hand those, but you gotta get it fixed.
It can be better next week.

Speaker 18 (37:10):
The way you guys started touchdown drives on your first
three possessions, did it feel like that playoff game all
over again, the way that you came out and really
dominated early.

Speaker 20 (37:19):
Yeah, man, it felt good.

Speaker 21 (37:20):
You know, we just gotta keep putting the pressure on
you know, you know obviously, like I just said to him, Uh,
those two turnovers at the end cost us. Uh, we
can't hand those and just keep putting pressure on 'em
and you know, try to find a win.

Speaker 18 (37:32):
Wasn't that case really where those turnovers were Bengals mistakes?
I mean, Christian Benford, that was a great play, right.

Speaker 21 (37:38):
Uh, God made a hell of a play. Uh No,
So you know, I get gotta get pros where where
when it's due. Uh he made a hell of a
play and made a good ball. They good play on
the ball, so you know, and then you know the
second one, you know, got tipped. You know, tips and overthrows.
You know, it's it's tough, so it's gotta be better.

Speaker 11 (37:54):
How tough as a tea when you see what the
offense looks like when you have everybody and you guys
who out to score thirty plus points, that it might
be too late in the season to get to where
you wanna go.

Speaker 21 (38:05):
Uh it's tough, you know. You know, we definitely wanted
this win today. Uh, but it didn't happen.

Speaker 11 (38:10):
So for you, we we know you came back from
the concussion or to missing last week. You took some
hard falls, landing on the ground awkwardly. How difficult was
it for you to make it all the way through
this game?

Speaker 20 (38:25):
You know, I'm a I'm a soldier, you know what
I mean. So soldiers take hits.

Speaker 21 (38:30):
You know, it happens. It's football, It's the name of
the game. Uh, you gotta get up next play. Mentally,
did you try.

Speaker 22 (38:36):
To invent somebody to stay in the game?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Off?

Speaker 22 (38:37):
It looked like they kind of valua val what evaluated
you a couple of times? I mean, what was kind
of the conversations you have with the traders.

Speaker 21 (38:44):
Regular Uh, you know, going through the concussion testing things.
But you know, past those so I was able to
go back and keep playing.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
Was there aught?

Speaker 22 (38:50):
You know, given the history of you saying, hey, you know,
maybe wanna not playing this given what happened. I mean,
how much did you think about maybe sitting out the rest.

Speaker 18 (38:56):
Of the game.

Speaker 20 (38:57):
I didn't think about that at all.

Speaker 21 (38:58):
Why cause I'm a I'm a I'm a team for
you know what I mean. Uh, my team needed me,
you know, I feel like they did. So I went
out there and played, try to dog this out with
my team.

Speaker 11 (39:06):
Was it getting frustrated that you seem to keep landing
so hard? I mean, you know, football players, I get it,
but sometimes you can brace your fall. It felt like
you had a lot of falls today that you really
could even brace yourself.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
It's well, man, it's ball.

Speaker 18 (39:18):
I heard Jamar say to you before the game. Hey,
the weather's not bad? What was it like out there
for you guys?

Speaker 20 (39:24):
Snow cold?

Speaker 18 (39:25):
To me, I don't like the snow, which Javari trying
to convince you. Do you think that it's not so bad?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Nah?

Speaker 21 (39:32):
Uh, I just think the thing was saying that cause
it was a little colder in Baltimore. So uh that's
probably while.

Speaker 11 (39:38):
What one had a touchdown catches that just team needs
to play gotta make it.

Speaker 21 (39:41):
I mean, yeah, you know we knew when I when
it when it was when it was called I knew
somebody was gonna have to make a play, So whether
it came to me or somebody else, play would have
to be made.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
So what's your talking part about losing this one?

Speaker 20 (39:53):
We needed to win, you know what I mean to
you know, have better chances of you know, making it. Uh,
we just need to win.

Speaker 22 (40:00):
So I know how welly y'all played last week, how
wey y'all played for most of this game, and now
giving where you're out with the record, how much harder
does that make call what happened today?

Speaker 20 (40:08):
I mean it makes it hard.

Speaker 21 (40:10):
I mean we got to come back, you know, watch
your film, correct what we did wrong, and just try
to be better next week.

Speaker 6 (40:16):
Is starting to feel like the season is slipping away.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Oh that's exact question.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
T after the game and David thought it was big
coming off the concussion. They got him involved immediately. He
had three catches on the opening drive and kind of
announced that tea was ready and let's go, and it
was the start of a big day for him.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah, it really was. The Uh. The Bills had a
tough time matching up with t and he is He's
a tough match up. The very few defensive backs have
big corners the size that can you know, handle and
battle T Higgins on a snap by snap basis. So
he is an automatic mismatch. I mean, he is a unique,

(40:58):
unique guy. He's one of the biggest receivers in the
National Football League really overall, and he very athletic for
his size, as we talked about, and he's a weapon.
He's a guy that loves the game of football too.
I mean he works. He takes nothing for granted. He
always wants to get better. He is works hard. He's

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one of the first guys on the field every day,
one of the last guys to leave. He puts an
extra time with Joe Burrow. Football is important to this kid.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
It was.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
It was a scary moment when he made the leaping
attempt and fell and you could see his head smacked
the guy on the turf like the concussion and bounced
early and he sat up and on the TV replay
you saw him point his finger to his helmet indicating
my head and went to the blue ten. And you're thinking, man,
that you get one concussion and you worry about things

(41:52):
piling up from there. But he was able to return.
It made that beauty of a one handed catch and
just a really strong perform. It's a on a brutally
cold day with a hard field, and he got through
all of it yesterday.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Yeah. I mean concussions when you when you bang your
head on the turf, your your eyes they don't they
don't roll up in the back of your head literally,
but you lose focus. I mean, you're you're just you're, you're,
you're out of whack. I mean, you can't sleep, clearly,
it's you never pass an eye vision test, and it's
it's like those little swimmers that you know, you go

(42:25):
through your eyes. You have a little bit of that.
So you're trying to shake it off and see how
bad it is. If you have a serious concussion, you're
going to be, you know, trying to trying to get
your eyes straight for a while. Fortunately for the Bengals
and for t Higgins, he was able to shake that
one off.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
We're gonna hear from Jamar in our next segment. But
let's uh, while we're talking about the offense. Uh. The
one thing that I think was surprising was especially considering
Buffalo's struggles to defend the run. I think going into
the game they were thirtieth I think they were giving
up five or five point two yards per caring Bengals
just never really got the run game untracked. Yesterday Somaj

(43:02):
p Ryan had some really hard, tough runs. But Chase Brown,
for his streak of six straight games over one hundred
yards total yards from scrimmage, he just didn't get it
going really at all yesterday.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
No, he really didn't, and numbers back it up. I mean,
the average less than two yards of carry. Twelve carries
twenty three yards one point nine A long carry of
five was a touchdown, so he did put a touchdown
up on the board. But you're right, p Ryan, five
point two yards per but he only carried it six times,
six times for thirty one yards. So maybe in hindsight think, okay,

(43:40):
maybe maybe we should have worked that big horse a
little bit more and let him beat on the Buffalo
Bills and wear them down a little bit, and maybe
that has slowed their pass rush down. If they have
to concern themselves so much with you know, a big
guy between the tackles, a big horse like p Rand
that they can do some damage.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Boy, and he on the on the opening drive, p
Ride had that third and six catch and the fight,
the extra effort to keep that drive alive, which was big.
He at a third and one conversion, he had a
nine yard run. And the one thing that appear different
about Chase Chase Brown, and I don't know if it
was weather in traction, he just didn't seem to run
with as much I don't know purpose. There was a

(44:18):
little more tentative of of like the tap tail, like
which way am I going? Where am I going? He's
been decisive in that run where he's been really good
the previous six weeks.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah, I know what you mean. It looked like he
running on eggshells a little bit, you know, And and uh,
you know, not not quite sure exactly of his footing.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
And Samaj is not that way. He'll just batter you.
You know, you may hit him, but he's gonna hit you.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
He's going to hit you. And the thing I like
about Samaj watching him always has a forward body lean,
never runs upright, always has a body lean. He's going
to smack you, and and uh, and he's going to
give you little hitting surface because when you're on a
forty five degree incline light to rape boy, it's like
it's hard to get you know, a big hit on him.
So for his big a bu he is, his running

(45:01):
style is uh is pretty dynamic. I mean it's a
one two punch. He's got a tough running style to
tackle and he's a big old horse behind it.

Speaker 16 (45:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
They always say low man wins we get you know
how you're like leaning like I can't get under you.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah, and if and if you do try to lower everything,
he'll run you over.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
You know.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
So it's like, damn, I'm the damnified doing damnified don't
here with this guy.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
He's got like a built in He's the type of
running back there's always like a built in extra yard
because he's always falling forward. So when you get him,
he's he's, you know, tackle on one more yard gain.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah, so it is. I mean when he when he
gets tackled for no gain, you don't really see him
get tackled for lost. Well, when you see him get
tackled for no gain, it's like, man, as an offensive line,
you go back to him and say, man, we sucked
on that play because I exactly if if p Ryan
can't get in the yards off and and nobody is yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
No doubt, no doubt. All right, still ahead. We heard
from t in this segment. Let's hear from Jamar on
his day as we roll through Bengals Lite on this
Monday night on the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW.
We keep moving with things along on this plenty and

(46:08):
that Offendals line the Bengals. We're new network at seven
hunter WLW lands for chemist day, blap them hanging out
sorting through yesterday. Let's talk Jamar Chase targeted eight times,
five catches forty four yards along of sixteen. Here's Jamar
after the game.

Speaker 11 (46:22):
Pick six was one of the bigger plays of the game.
Is that just a risk on that play that if
a guy makes a great play like that, there's just
you tip your cap and you say great play and
move on.

Speaker 9 (46:35):
Yeah, pretty much great play called by him first time
doing a safety blitz on from my side the whole
game pretty much just show cloud the whole game.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Whinside love it.

Speaker 11 (46:43):
So how difficult is it because then they come back
with another interception to take that kind of a body
blow and still try to finish.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
A game of the win.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
Just not a good play about dlining their hands out'
make an ampag on the play.

Speaker 18 (46:56):
I feel like in the last two weeks, you guys
showed what this team can be.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Nah, I feel like we did it a whole Yeah,
not just last two weeks.

Speaker 11 (47:04):
But when you have the whole offense healthy the way
you've had now and you've see the the amount of
points you're putting up, is it harder to swallow Jamar
knowing that if you had Joe and the whole offense
the whole year, maybe you wouldn't be in this position.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Uh. Hard to say at the end of the day.

Speaker 9 (47:19):
Uh, we can't really look at him and put all
the pressure on him for making plays and trying to
be perfect play the game.

Speaker 4 (47:23):
But uh, we gotta look at ourselves.

Speaker 9 (47:25):
We gotta look at the uh the other quarterbacks, the defense,
the backups, everybody else that has to play.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
They rolling and step into the game when they when
they number called.

Speaker 18 (47:34):
How much you matt a Uh admiration do you have
for Tea coming back from his concussion and playing the
way he did and well the hard hits that uh
he felt today?

Speaker 9 (47:43):
Uh, nothing less. I expect nothing less from him, you
know what I'm saying. He's one of the best in
the nation, and I expected a lot.

Speaker 11 (47:51):
Of guys in here said that today felt like a
playoff game. You've played in playoff games, you played these
guys in playoff games.

Speaker 8 (47:57):
Did it feel like that kind of atmosphere?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Nah?

Speaker 4 (47:59):
Nah, I just not really.

Speaker 10 (48:02):
Did go show you anything different from than what you
saw film this week? Did they show you anything different?

Speaker 3 (48:08):
No, but you saw the film during that week.

Speaker 8 (48:10):
No.

Speaker 9 (48:11):
The exactly what they did all week on film played
six strong, six quarters two, So they did.

Speaker 18 (48:19):
They did the usual people will take you out though, right,
I mean that was there game.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
I mean I guess it was just cloud nothing. I
don't normally see.

Speaker 11 (48:29):
Four nine Jamar. What now do you guys look forward
to and play for?

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Just keep playing man, finishtone. That's the best we could do.

Speaker 10 (48:38):
I'm sorry I was late, but we'll pubs review of the.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Of the pick six good play by then. I guess
he was Woodson right, Caplitz.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Jamar after the game and Dave they we talked a
little bit earlier, alluded to the fact that they put
up a lot of tension towards Uh Jamar. I think
he had one catch going into the fourth quarter, then
got hot for a little bit of a stretch and
looking at the numbers. Christian Benford who had the big
pick six saw from Next Gen. Christian Benford had sixteen

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matchups against Jamar Chase yesterday. Jamar was thrown at just
twice in those sixteen matchups, no receptions and the pick six.
So Benford had a big day against a big time receiver.
He really did.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
And that's what teams are starting to do, not just
the Buffalo Bills, but everybody, particularly division opponents. They're putting
a shadow on Chase, a guy like Benford who is
their best cover corner, and then they'll compliment and supplement
it with okay, a safety rolling over the top or
a nickel corner who's you know, backing off from the
nickel corner position and taking the deep part of the

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football field as well. So they're doing some combination coverages
to combat Jamar Chase's greatness. But man, he you know,
you figure if he's one on one the snaps that
he is one on one, somebody else has to win. Yes,
But what they're doing is they're saying, Okay, well we're

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not We're not taking another guy and putting him on Jamar.
So we can put him on Higgins, we can put
him on against sticky. We can do it with the
Yoci vosh if we so desire. Uh, he's got to
prove himself a little bit more, I think before he
falls into that category. But you know, the defensive coordinators
there are no dummies, man. They're always saying I thinking
a step ahead. There's no question about that. But bottom

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line is Benford played the game of his life.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
Man.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
He played his ass off.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah. You a quick thought on Yoshi. And it's as
he continues to develop, it would seem the the gap
that he has to close is he'll make a nice play,
but he'll have a drop. Yeah, he'll making a just
closing that gap of inconsistency to make it more consent.
That seems like the only thing he's lacking right now,
because he'll do some things he say wow, look at

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that and look at the body, the way he angled
his body and the strength he showed.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Then he'll have a drop and you say, how do
you do that?

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Yeah, that's he is. He's a rare I mean, he
can do a lot of things. He might be as
gifted an athlete. He's probably the guy on the football
team that could do the pentathlon and heptathlon and all
that sort of thing. I mean, the guy can do anything.
You can high jump, he can pull vault, he can
run sprints, you can run distance. I mean he is
and honestly and truly he is gifted in that regard.

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But you're right, consistency making the catch and making the
catch at clutch times, you know, being more clutch. Joe
Burrow is human, and Joe Burrow, if you drop one,
Joe is going to be like, you know, I was
kind of counting on that one. I don't think I
could throw the ball any better. Man. I hit you
right in the numbers, right and right in the chest,

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and he didn't finish it for me, So I might
be going in another direction the next time.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Final thought on Chase. He becomes the fourth player all
time with at least one thousand receiving yards and five
touchdowns in each of his first five seasons. The company
he's in, aj Green, Justin Jefferson, and Randy Moss bad
company for guys with at least a thousand yards and
five touchdowns in each of their first five seasons.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Man, that's a that's a heck of a roll call
right there, and it is Hall of Famers future Hall
of Famers, each and every one. There's no doubt about that. So, boy,
Jamar Chase season some high cotton there, man, that's a
that's a hell of a start to a season.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
He's sitting on four now, four hundred and eighty six
catches in his fifth season, not even done. Still four
games left, four hundred and eighty six catches for jam.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Chase, four games left. If he catches fourteen balls and
four games, which you think is honest a foregone conclusion,
that'll be five hundred catches, one hundred a year. What
one hundred catches a year? Just plug them in, man, unbelievable, amazing.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Stuck some more defense on the other side as we
continue here from Geno Stone and more. He's Dave Blapham.
I'm Glance Pacallister. We thank you for being with us tonight,
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(53:06):
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Speaker 3 (53:19):
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Speaker 2 (53:33):
Let's flip it back on the other side of the script.
Let's talk defense and Geno Stone Bengals safety on their
performance yesterday. Here's Gino after the game.

Speaker 11 (53:43):
How difficult is it when momentum shifts the way it
did in the fourth quarter, a couple of picks all
of a sudden, you guys were in control and then
you're not in control. How hard is that as a
football player with momentum on the road shifts like that.

Speaker 23 (53:56):
Yeah, No, definitely difficult, But us things you try to
overcome if you want to really good team. So you know,
I think we still handle that situation. Well, I think
we would have held him three points instead of let
him score.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Things like that.

Speaker 8 (54:07):
We've been a different situation. But yeah, it's definitely difficult though.

Speaker 11 (54:10):
You play with one of the best quarterbacks in the league,
but Buffalo has one as well. How difficult of a
matchup is Josh Allen for a defensive player.

Speaker 23 (54:17):
No, he's definitely difficult. I mean he I think he
works best at you extending the players and things like that.
He's a really smart guy and really athletics. So once
he gets out the pocket he can make things happen
in the show today. So you know, that's there's things
we have to limit. We still do as good a
job of Dan.

Speaker 11 (54:31):
I think at the beginning we did, but not that
that final third down. You know, the threat is he
could run it, he could throw it. How difficult is
that when he has both of those options.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Yeah, it means definitely difficult. But I play.

Speaker 8 (54:42):
You know, you just got to execute. I think we
had a good plan for it, and uh.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
It was a good call.

Speaker 8 (54:47):
And he's got to execute everyone.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Everyone got to do those jobs.

Speaker 11 (54:50):
There was a lot of excitement in this room. You
guys winning Baltimore. There's the thought that you guys can
run the table and maybe make the playoffs. But now
with four and nine, what's the feeling inside this room?
But what you guys can still accomplish.

Speaker 4 (55:01):
This's gout.

Speaker 8 (55:01):
He's gotta finish.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
I mean, that's all it is.

Speaker 23 (55:03):
I mean, we's got you know, don't don't think about
anything ahead of the next week or whoever it is.
Just got worry about each day, just getting better as
a pro each day. So that's the only thing we
can go look forward to right now, and like everything
else saying to you know, playoff from there.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Geno Stone after the game, and uh man, Josh Allen
is such a such a problem from so many different aspects.
I mean, you watch him and you see what he
did to roll out and buy time, to extend to
play and throw a fourth down the touchdown. You watch
him take off on the on the the back breaking

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forty yard run, and you look at him and he's
what he's listened at six five, two thirty seven. And
I keep thinking of trying to think of a cop
of a quarterback who can run like he does. They're
saying he's not like blazing fast, but he gets gone
and he's big enough and strong enough to shed tackles.
But I just watch him and I say, I don't
even know who to compare him to. He's just so

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dang impressive.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
He is, he really is. I mean, he is a
He's a specimen and he can do anything you want
at the quarterback position. He can throw deep, he can
throw intermediate short, he's got accuracy. He struggled a little
bit with his accuracy yesterday and he's had a little
bit of an off year in that regard. But he
can when he's on man, he's pinpoint. He can roll

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to the right, like you said, and you know, tucket
and run or hurt you. The thing with him that
defensive players hate is when you're in no man's land,
you know, and it's like he's approaching the line of scrimmage,
and do I drop coverage and come up and smack
this guy because I don't want him to get ahead
of steam, or do I stay in coverage and you know,
pay the price when I try to come up there

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and hit this dude. So he is, he's a weapon man.
He's a two way guy, and he can roll to
his right, rolls to his left equally effectively. And a
lot of times quarterbacks that are right handed rolling the left,
they can't get back across their body properly with the
good mechanics in the arm swing to complete passes down
the football field. But he does man. He throws the

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ball very very well, rolling to his left. So there's
not much that Josh Allen, if anything, that this guy
can't do.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
He's completing seventy percent of his passes. He's rushed for
four hundred and eighty seven yards. In that rushing total,
he's rushed for thirty seven first downs. Yeah, he's rushed
for twelve touchdowns. And you add all that up, and
you would think that would leave him susceptible to getting
beaten up and banged up and bruised and maybe missing

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some games.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Dave.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
The only time he's missed games he missed four games
his rookie season, had a UCL strain in his elbow.
But he's now in his eighth season. He hasn't missed
a game since his rookie season.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
Yeah, I mean those numbers.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
I mean that is thirty seven first downs rushing for
your quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
And twelve touchdowns. I mean that's uh. Well, he's won
an MVP. He's tracking for another one, A legitimate candidate,
there's no question. Usually the MVP does go to somebody
that either wins the suit Ball or gets to the
Super Bowl or at least the AFC Championship.

Speaker 8 (58:03):
Game.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
So you know, time will tell. With respect to Josh Allen,
there are other candidates you know that are a vying
for that opportunity. But man, you know, a two time MVP,
now you're talking to some high cotton. There's you know,
if you win an MVP, it's a hell of an accomplishment.
I mean, you think of all the guys that play
football in the world, and you're the guy that was

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the best at that sport in the world and to
do it two times, man, that's that's a hell of
an accomplishment.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Boy, late, when the Bengals got the sack and pushed
him to third and fifteen, and I'm thinking, oh, right,
they're going to get a stop here, and I'll be damn,
they're gonna get Joe the ball back and Joe's going
to win this game. And then Josh Allen goes forty
yards of one of those plays that just it slows
down into slow motion as you say no, no, and

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just watch him run and I don't know, I have
to look at the all twenty two.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
What did you see?

Speaker 2 (58:59):
What broke down? Everybody wants to know if there was
a spy? Why not a spy? If there wasn't. What
did you see on a play that breaks down to
the point that Josh Allen goes forty yards to just
break their back?

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Well, I don't think there was a spy on the play.
If there was, the guy should be cut and they
shouldn't have let him get on the bus and go
to the airport or let him fly home, because man,
when he took off, there was nobody within five yards
of him anywhere. I mean, it was unbelievable. So, yeah,
they a broken coverage is all I can think of.
Somebody just went and attack a route that they shouldn't

(59:33):
had no business going and getting nosy about man, Yeah,
third and fifteen, forty yard touchdown? Are you kidding me?
He also had another third and fifteen, scrambled for seventeen
yards and moved the chains. You convert third and fifteen
twice running the football as a quarterback in the National

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Football League. That is a unique weapon, to say the least.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
You know, and it goes back to what we've said
about the defense. They will show flashes and they'll make
a strip of the goal line like DJ Turner. You say,
all right, they're starting to get it, and they'll just
make a play that just makes you want to pull
your hair out. They'll take a bad angle, Miles Murphy
rushes inside and leaves Josh Allen to the outside. Uh
DJ had a pass interference. DA's had hands to the face.

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They just there's that most inopportune moment. There'll be a breakdown,
either trying too hard or being in the wrong spot
or taking a bad angle, and it just makes you
want to throw things.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
You know, I think you made a great call. There
a great point trying too hard because this group they're
not folding their tent. They're not quitting on the football team.
They're not quitting on Al Golden. And that's that's the
that's the tough thing to watch them, because I mean,
watch them bust their ass in practice and they work
at it. Man, Al Golden works them hard, and you know,

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you think, okay, this is the week. You know they're
gonna really put it together this week. They maybe a shutout, Hey,
pitch a shut out. When's the last time that happened?
He Hey, pitch a shut out. Hold them to a
you know, a touchdown or touchdown, a field goal, seven,
ten points, whatever, and it just it just never materializes.
It's got to be unbelievably frustrating that you know, what's

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it going to take to break that stretch.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
It's a great question. Sixty four thousand dollars question. Yep,
Still ahead. Let's go offensive line here from Orlando Brown
and talk about the day that was for that O
line that allowed just one sack. More as we continue
Bengals Line on the Bengals Radio Network and seven hundred WLW.

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as we navigate our way through three hours of Bengals
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Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Stick it up front, talk about the Bengals offensive line.
Here's Orlando Brown after the game.

Speaker 11 (01:02:01):
It's for thirty plus points. And it felt like there
were times, or Landa where you had the game in
control of the second half. Did you feel like you
guys were imposing your well offensively.

Speaker 23 (01:02:11):
Yeah, you know, sometimes it's hard for me from an
offensive line perspective. I'm just trying to keep Joe Clean
be physical in the run game, you know, in terms
of momentum.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
It's hard to tell you, you know what I mean.

Speaker 23 (01:02:20):
I don't have a for sure answer, but I think
just in terms of what I was feeling from my
perspective up front, I feel like we were handling them
pretty well.

Speaker 11 (01:02:29):
Part thing is, you see what it looks like now
when you have the entire offense healthy back together and
it might be too late for you guys to go
where you want to go. Is that the hardest part
to say that, look what it looks like, but we
might not have the time to do it.

Speaker 23 (01:02:43):
Yeah, no, man, I mean, you know, I think what's
important is the character of our team, and especially when
I look at the front of the room in terms
of guys like Joe, jamar T, myself, to you know,
leaders of the offense. Just a bunch of guys that
love the game of football, that want to fight, you know,
that love to come out here and play for the city,
this organization and for each other. And to me, you know,

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things things will come around, you know, it's it's it's
an interesting part about football.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
This is always important to keep perspective. You know, you
never necessarily know how things.

Speaker 23 (01:03:11):
Are gonna go. You always uh got to attack. You
can't necessarily fill it out. But that's the beauty of
the sport.

Speaker 11 (01:03:17):
When the team has back to back interceptions like that,
how hard is it to take that kind of a
punch and win a game?

Speaker 23 (01:03:24):
Yeah, yeah, it's that's tough, man, that's tough. And you know,
we'll we'll learn from our mistakes and and you know,
be able to I guess you could.

Speaker 3 (01:03:31):
Say grow or figure that out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Orlando Brown breaking it all down, Joe Burrow through it
thirty six times with sack just once, if I remember correctly,
that was the was the blind side sack he took
on a It was on a blitz and it took
them out of field goal range. And that's the only time.
I mean, I think you can make it. I don't
even think there's an argument to it. The way this
offensive line and I know they didn't run it great yesterday,
but the way they've settled in as a group in

(01:03:54):
this stretch here of late is it's been pretty solid,
hasn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
I agree, lance solid is a good word for it.
Maybe a cut above solid, you know, is it? Uh,
you know, pro Bowl level outstanding no, not not there yet,
but go against that Buffalo Bills defensive front and literally
not give up a sack other than a free runner
Blitzer off the slot corner. And Joe never saw him,

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like he said, blindside, never got his eyes to that
backside at all. And man, that was another play he made.
The fact that he held on that football, to me
was amazing. He took a shot man and and he
you know, was able to tucket man put it, put
it away and not not lose the football, put it
in jeopardy that way. But I talking to the coaches,

(01:04:40):
uh and and UH talking to the players after the game,
they were pretty happy with their protection. And the guy
that was happiest was Joe Burrow. He said, laugh, I'm
telling you, man out the pass protection was outstanding them
and the the the way you want it done. The
tackles kept the pocket wide, the guard and two guards
in center kept the pocket depth. For me, he said,
I was able to really there were times where he

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was in the pocket, you know, pat in the football
looking down the football field. And when you can do
that in today's NFL, that's that's pretty good stuff. So
I do think that the offensive line is getting better
and better. And I do think Orlando Brown and Marius
Mimms had a big game pass protecting at the tackle
possession position, and it starts there. Ted Carrits did a

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great job of not only blocking but leading the football team,
making all the calls and Buffalo runs a lot of stuff,
you know, they were they were changing things up a
little bit, and he did a great job of sorting
it out. And Bobby Babbage has some significant pressure packages
that you know, take a little bit to make sure,
you know, you get the right people blocked up and

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and Ted did a good job.

Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
David there there was a stretch in a time where
they were asking it awful lot of two rookie guards
with Fairchild and Rivers. Rivers hurt his ankle and Dalton
Reisner was plucked back in it. And I think people
forget Dalton was signed really late in camp and on
the fly joined this and like on the fly, they
plugged him in and I'm sure that was a struggle
for him and he got dinged up a little bit.

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Since he's been back in and filling in for Rivers,
it seems like Dalton Reisner, is it fair to say
he's been a piece that's helped settle things down.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
I think so Lance. And part of it is it's
a real good call by you. Part of it is
he's a veteran. You know, he's been around, he's been
he's been to multiple wars, you know, talking talking to him,
he has a very high football IQ. Ted Carriss has
a very high football IQ. Fairchild is is you know,
it's got a great football i Q. But he's a
young buck you know, rookie try and still learning. But

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he played, you know Georgia man, he played high level
of football. He is not overmatch physically whatsoever. So I
think I think the future is bright. I really do.
I think that. Uh, you know, Marius Mims is a
young buck man and he is a big, strong horse.
You know, Marius Mims, Dylan Fairchild. They've got some pieces.

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They got some young pieces that they're they're putting together
and building that offensive line.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
All right, when we come back, could we spend a
couple of minutes maybe on Jermaine Burton? Yes, O, good
way to put it. That is ahead Bengals on on
the Bengals Radio network and seven hundred WLW. All right

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down the stretch we go Bengals Line and the Bengals
Radio network in seven hundred WLW is we prepared to
put our second hour in the books, Big third hour
to follow. Here more from Zach, here, more from Joe,
and we'll do our fantastic fun facts with Joe Flacco
as well. By the way, and I just looked at
it on of my notes and I meant to bring
it up. You know, the one guy yesterday who didn't
break a sweat and probably got bored was the Bills

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punter Mitch Wishnowski. Did not punt it all yesterday, not
a single punt yesterday. The Bills have used three different
punters this year, including Brad Robbins of one time Bengal,
but Mitch yesterday did not have to.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
I was probably forget about breaking his sweat. He was
probably just freezing his tail off, just sitting there saying, guys,
let me run around, put me on the field for
at least a punt. But I guess he's okay, not punning.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
Yeah, he's okay, not punning for sure, And yeah, I
just keep running the offense and he's the holder. So
like a lot of punners, a lot of punters are holders.
For their for their teammate, their place kicker. So he did.
He did a phenomenal job holding and that's uh his contribution.
When he called home, talked to his parents to go, yeah,
did you see me?

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
You see the see me?

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Hold that thing? I man, I caught it and spun
that ball the laces and I spun him away from
the kicker.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I did a hell of a job his pro football
focus great is great.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Absolutely, it's a perfect score.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
All right. Uh, well you can laugh about that, and no,
my head's gonna hurt. And we're going to talk about
Jermaine and Burton, who unfortunately was suspended yesterday, did not
travel with the team, and Dave, a third round pick
last year, the eightieth overall. Who I thought about this
this morning. What an opportunity to think. You come out
of college, you get drafted in the third round, you
go to Cincinnati, you're you're you're giving Joe Burrow to

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work with and and Tea and Jamar to learn from,
and you talk about squandering opportunity after opportunity.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Boy, when they drafted him, they thought, here's our third
receiver and the three receiver package, and they were they
were unbelievably excited about adding him to the mix, and
good reason. I mean, he is a gifted athlete. This guy,
his size, speed, ray show is as good as anybody
in the National Football League. He's a physical marvel. You know,
a lot of a lot of guys on the team,

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a lot of defensive backs say that he's he's he's
as good as anybody that got on the roster.

Speaker 8 (01:09:35):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
But man, he's immature. Just can't get it figured out.
Just uh, he's late more than he's on time.

Speaker 12 (01:09:44):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
It's I remember Paul Brown used to say, when you're
showing me things like that, not taking notes and meetings,
showing up late doing you are telling me the game's
not important enough to you. And when the game's not
important enough to you, I don't have time for you.
So it's sad to see him. Yes, just let a career,

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potential career that could be really good, just go away,
you know, not materialize, never get started. And what could
have been, you know what could have been if there
are so many guys in college football right now that
if you said, hey, who what wide receiver out here
wants to be the third guy to h to Jamar

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Chase and t Higgins with Joe Borrow throwing you in
the football. Everybody had raised one hand, both hands, jump
up and down or whatever. Me me, I'm I'm ready
to pick on, pick me out and that that has
been presented to him, and he said no thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Yeah, And boy, when I think of him, I always
go back to the draft day vision. They had the
camera in the Bengals draft room at the time and
and Zach you know, slapped the table and was hugging
and there there was genuine exciting Yeah, that pick was
made of We got him. We've got a talent that
we can put to use. And it just I mean,
he's played fourteen games, he has four catches, he's been

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inactive all this season, and it's just man, and there's
been there's been a lot going on in his life
at various levels, for various things that I'm not privy to,
and I don't want to spect you right right, It's
just whatever it is. You one hope it gets fixed
in two. You just wonder if the organization can continue

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to wait and and just deal with everything that is
piling up on his plate.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
It's just, yeah, I mean, how many chances will he get?

Speaker 10 (01:11:37):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
I mean, it's like maybe some of the things you're
talking about off the football field with his life, problems
with his family or friends, whatever the case may be. Okay, well,
let's give him another chance. Let's see if it can
work his way through this and work his way out
of it and you know, focus on the game of
football and do what he needs to do to be
a productive football player for the Cincinnati Bank in the

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National Football League. But man, how many times? How many
chances can you afford to give a guy? And it's
a sad state of affairs, it really is. It's a
tough story, no.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Doubt, no doubt. We've completed two hours. Our third to follow.
You'll hear a little bit more on Zach. You'll hear
from Joe and Moore on Bengals Line, the Bengals Radio
Network and seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're back on Bengals
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Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
We heard a little bit from QB one Joe Burrow
early in the show. Let's pick up the rest of
his reflections on yesterday's defeat and what is ahead of
the remaining four games of the season. Here's Joe Burrow.

Speaker 10 (01:13:00):
Playing the guy in a game with a guy like Josh.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
I mean, do you feel like you have to.

Speaker 10 (01:13:04):
Do you feel like you got a match him?

Speaker 23 (01:13:05):
Or what was it like?

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Try to keep gable?

Speaker 8 (01:13:08):
Yeah, we knew what kind of game it was gonna be. Uh,
obviously he's a great player and makes plays in all
kinds of situations. And you know, I think the last
play was the epitome of who he is as a player.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:13:25):
You gotta account for for everything with him, and he
did a great job today.

Speaker 7 (01:13:29):
Oh oh, the next four game, you said, well, potationally
not like you. What do you do you what would
you hope to see over the next four game to
show you that this thing games billion or constant teams pass.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:13:39):
We're just gonna go out and try to execute and
play well and win games. You know, we'll look at
all the big picture stuff when it's all set and down.

Speaker 12 (01:13:47):
This year.

Speaker 7 (01:13:48):
This is like a lot of games.

Speaker 12 (01:13:49):
You guys have been in shootouts where you come when
you score, like your plays and you don't get there.

Speaker 7 (01:13:54):
How do you indulem utily you being in so many
of He's where thirty.

Speaker 8 (01:13:58):
Four isn't enough. Yeah, I mean, you know that might've
I think I've matured this year and gain some perspective
on on and everything when I was out and I'm
just grateful to to be out there and be able
to be a quarterback in the NFL and be one
of the best. You know, I'm I don't take that

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for granted, and I work really hard to, like I said,
put myself in a position to to do that. It's
just like everybody else in there. So that's what I'm
gonna do. I'm I'm a I'm a player, and I'm
gonna go and try to play as good as I
can and see where we're at. See where we're at.

Speaker 10 (01:14:37):
The first touchdowns are tea that that's which.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
That Eve gonna make you catch.

Speaker 8 (01:14:42):
No, I've seen him make that catch a million times.

Speaker 10 (01:14:44):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:14:46):
You know that's one where you just put some air
on and let Tea go and make a play, and
that's a that's what he does.

Speaker 7 (01:14:51):
What did he say about Tea.

Speaker 22 (01:14:52):
That you know, you you really bought to you every
you can go to stay in the game, really use
a ad of it that you wanted.

Speaker 8 (01:14:57):
What was Yeah too, he's a tough guy. I think
he's gotten tougher over the years. You know, back in
the day, he would get hit and I'd hold my
breath cause he would lay there for a second and
then he'd pop back up. I think everybody remembers that.
Now this pop up game is pretty good, and so

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that's good to see. Doesn't doesn't scare me quite as much.
But he's as tough as they come, and he's gonna
continue to make big time plays in big time spots.
That's that's who he is, or or stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
That kind of your mentality about then, what's that say
to you?

Speaker 8 (01:15:35):
Yeah, well, it gives me a lot of confidence throwing
them the ball in a lot of different situations. You know,
there's I'm gonna protect him with the ball as good
as much as I can, you know, over the middle
and in vulnerable positions. But you know, sometimes in big
spots you're gonna have to fit a ball in there
where you know receiver's gonna know that he's gonna get hit.
And when you have guys like Tea and the n A,

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all of our guys, really it gives you a lot
of confidence to uh try to fit it fit that
ball in those windows because they can handle it.

Speaker 14 (01:16:04):
You talked about the perspective from being out and and
maybe how that's helped shape how you view this season.

Speaker 7 (01:16:10):
Is it a hard balance between you, I believe on
the things two menus that you get paid a lot
of money.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
Plate it's getting you're out there playing in the snow
a game against you know from.

Speaker 7 (01:16:19):
The top quarterbacks, you're having fun. You don't come out
to win.

Speaker 6 (01:16:22):
To enjoy that moment while also knowing you're out where
you want to be. Is that a hard balance to
make sure that you, you know, remember these moments, but
it doesn't a shadow where you feel about what you
guys have made you so that you're playing in the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (01:16:34):
Yeah, it, you know it had That's that's been a
struggle for the last couple of years. But I've grown
and and matured and understood the position that you know,
we find ourselves in and certainly the last ten weeks
UH has has shown me a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:16:56):
Like I said, I'm just happy to be out there.
You know, we we want to win games and be
in the playoffs and and do everything that you know,
we say that we're capable of doing. But you know,
when I came back, I knew it was gonna be
an uphill battle. We were we were three and eight

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at that point. That's certainly not a playoff caliber position
to be in. And you know, really we're we're still
not out of it. We're gonna be We're gonna be
three games back. I don't know who who won between
the Ravens and the Steelers. Somebody have some information for

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me who did Steelers one. I think that makes it
a little tougher that that probably lowers our our chances
even more. But you know, that's how the cookie crumbles.
I knew, like I said, I knew it was gonna
be an uphill battle for us when when I was
coming back, And that's not you know, that wasn't really
in my thought process too much. And I just want

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to come back and put on a show and play
well in front of everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:18:04):
The city Sydney guys touchdown to him and.

Speaker 10 (01:18:09):
Had came over out of practice.

Speaker 8 (01:18:14):
Yeah, it was Yeah, that was a fun one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:18:19):
You know, we saw a look in practice and you know,
talked about it after and it was just like, Mike,
if you get that log, go ahead and do that.
That's what he did and this is exactly how it
played out in practice, you know, slightly different, but very similar,
and so would be able to execute that. It was,
that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Joe Burrow after the game and Dave we were talking
in the first segment about what's ahead and and commitment
to it. And Joe was asked yesterday about, you know,
four games left, playoff odds that have diminished a little bit.
But Joe said, look, I I worked my butt off
to come back. Some would say, now, okay, we saw
you your healthy, let's not risk anything in the four

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Joseph the mindset, I didn't work my tail off to
get back here, so I can sit the final four games.
Whether we've got one percent chance of making the playoffs
or ninety seven, I'm playing football. That's Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Love the man, Yes, I mean love everything about him.
And his teammates do too. I mean, you know they're
gonna go to battle, and they're gonna go go to
battle with Joe Burrow, and Joe Burrow is gonna go
to battle with them and they are gonna fight their
tails off. So you know, make no mistake about it,
Joe Burrows is here to play football. He gets paid
handsomely to play football, and even if he didn't, he's

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just one of those guys that loves the games. He's
all about football. It's it. It's part of his life.
I mean, it's a big part of his life. He
just everything he does is geared toward becoming more proficient
and better at the game.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
It's hard to believe, and it's part of the you know,
Joe famously said the window is his career and Dave
were looking at sadly and frustratingly, this could be the
third straight year. With a lot of circumstances unfolding and injuries,
it's gonna be the third straight year Joe Burrow is
not going to be in the playoffs. And that's tough
to digest when you start thinking Joe's age in twenty nineties,

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not old, but man, three years in a window without
the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17):
And really around the league I mean there's a bunch
of head coaches and offensive coordinators and quarterback coaches saying
I'll take them.

Speaker 2 (01:20:25):
Yep, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
I'll raise my hand, I raise both my hands. I'll
jump up and down. Are you kidding me? A talent
like Joe Burrow? We cannot find the right quarterback. That's
the only component we have missing. We've got a bunch
of ingredients. But man, you gotta have that one man.
You gotta have the foundational guy. And Joe Burrow's a
foundational guy. He's one of the best guys to ever
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
We'll take them, no doubt. Still ahead on the quarterback theme,
how about fantastic fun facts with Joe Flacco. You're gonna
love this from day a Horde. It's Bengals On in
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Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
We love the weekly segment that Dan Horde does called
Fantastic Fun Facts, a chance to kind of pull back
the curtain and learn more about the player and about
the person. This week in the spotlight is the Bengals
backup quarterback Joe Flacco. Here stay in Hord Fantastic Fun
Facts and Joe no.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Fantastic Fun Facts with Dan Ord.

Speaker 18 (01:22:01):
Time for some fun facts with Joe Flacco from Audubon,
New Jersey, which is basically a suburb of Philly. Just
cross the Delaware River and you're there. You're from a
big family. How big? And what did your folks do
for a living?

Speaker 16 (01:22:16):
I'm the oldest of six, got four brothers and a sister.
My mom stayed at home and was, you know, responsible
for raising us and the people we are and basically
running the entire family. And then my dad had his
own mortgage business with a couple guys.

Speaker 18 (01:22:35):
I'm one of five, so I can identify with what
your mom did for the family. You're six six. Where
did you get your height?

Speaker 16 (01:22:42):
I'm not sure. We joke around, you know, old fashioned
the milkman.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:22:48):
My mom's like, you know, like five six. Maybe she's
five seven. My dad's maybe five eleven, So not quite
sure where it comes from.

Speaker 18 (01:22:58):
Did you have to work hard at being at sports
or did it pretty much come naturally.

Speaker 16 (01:23:03):
I think you always had. I think when you have
an interest in sports from an early age, you just
naturally work hard at it. It's just what you like
to do. So it's tough to say. I feel like
I've always been good at it. I feel like it
came naturally. But at the same time, I've always been
interested in it, so it was something that I was
always doing, always developing. So yeah, it's tough to probably say.

Speaker 18 (01:23:25):
Honestly, you started your college football career at Pitt. You
red shirted your first year, and then you were a
backup your second year. Is that what you expected or
were you disappointed that you didn't get a faster opportunity.

Speaker 16 (01:23:37):
I don't know exactly what I expected. I probably expected
to go in and start as as quickly as I can.
At some point I was hoping to get an opportunity.
I think I was not okay, but okay with my
second year being where I was, But by that third year,
I really wanted I really wanted to be playing football.
And it wasn't looking like that was going to happen,

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and that's kind of what led to go to go
to Delaware.

Speaker 18 (01:24:02):
Why did you choose Delaware?

Speaker 16 (01:24:03):
Well, really, I mean there was no portal back in
the day, and I got recruited, but like, I wasn't
like a huge recruit, so it was tough to really
find out if anybody wanted me. And you know what,
my it wasn't like I really had very many options
or a decision to make. But Delaware was a team
that recruited me a little bit out of high school
as a smaller school that probably understood that I wasn't
going to go there. But Casey Keeler was known for

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kind of getting some transfers and my high school coach
my senior year played for him. Played for Casey at
Rowan I don't know if it was rowing then or
Glassboro State in South Jersey, so there was a little
bit of a connection there and I kind of found
out that they were interested in having me and ended
up like late summer, you know, deciding to go there
really because at that point it was the only option,

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you know, but they did have a rich tradition in football,
and you know, the state of Delaware cares a lot
about the Blue Hens, so it was a cool place
to go.

Speaker 18 (01:24:55):
You wound up being the eighteenth pick in the draft
by Baltimore, the second quarterback selected your year. What was
it like to get that phone call from Ozzie Newsom?

Speaker 16 (01:25:05):
Getting that call was surreal. I mean, sitting there with
your family and something that you've kind of envisioned since
you can remember, and probably wasn't as really as I
think it was. But from the time I can remember,
you know, I wanted to be a professional athlete. You know,
probably started with baseball and went to football and baseball
and ended up at football. So to get that call

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is obviously very special. It's something you can probably take
for granted at certain times just because it seemed like,
I don't know, it's at different times you kind of
feel like it's going to happen at some point, But
looking back, it's one of those things that it's always

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going to be really special because it's something that you
envisioned doing from the time you were seven or eight
years old.

Speaker 18 (01:25:53):
We're visiting the Joe Flacco. You took the Ravens to
the playoffs each of your first four years. You want
a playoff game every year, and then in year five
he led Baltimore to the super Bowl title. There are
thirty five quarterbacks who have led their team to a
super Bowl title. When I express it in those terms,
what does that say to you?

Speaker 16 (01:26:13):
You know, it's one of those times where you don't
as a player. I don't think you do sit back
and reflect enough on how special it is to get
to do what we do. I don't think you you know,
I don't, and I'm not somebody that does it either.
I don't think we sit back and look at what
we just did or what we've done over the last
five years. And the older I get, I think it's

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kind of important to do that, because when you don't
do that, no matter what you do for a living,
it can turn into a job to you know at times,
and I think when you hit me with stuff like that,
and when you're able to sit around some family members
and friends and tell stories and kind of have those
little moments where you do remind yourself of how lucky

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you are, it puts things back in perspective and allows
you to enjoy it a lot more. I think when
you don't do those things, which I don't naturally like
think about those things unless I am telling stories, which
I like to do.

Speaker 10 (01:27:11):
It.

Speaker 16 (01:27:11):
It's pretty damn cool. I mean, you have to go
back and put yourself in the shoes of when you
were a young kid slash teenager and you were hoping
to be in this position one day. And you know,
when you hear things like that from other people, you
do turn back into that kid, and you can put
it in that kind of view and that perspective and
really enjoy it.

Speaker 18 (01:27:32):
After eleven years in Baltimore, you've bounced around since, with
six teams over the last seven years. I suppose on
one hand, it's nice to be a guy that plays
for one team his entire career. On the other hand,
you've made so many friends and seeing how different teams
do it. Has that been enjoyable in a certain way
for sure?

Speaker 16 (01:27:51):
Yeah, it's a good way to put it, you know.
I think ultimately it would have been great to play
twenty years in one spot, you know, and call it
a day. But that's not my life. This is my life,
and you got to look at the positives in it.
And I do think there are a lot of positives
in going from team to team and meeting different coaches
and seeing how different coaches do it, and meeting different players,

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and seeing different locker rooms, and just enjoying different cities,
you know, getting to see different parts of the country
and actually live there for a little bit of time.
I think because I have played a good amount and
am a little bit older now I can enjoy those things.

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I think if you were to tell me that, if
you were to tell me there was going to be
positives in that when I was twenty three, I probably
wouldn't have believed you and wouldn't have wanted to do that.
But there have been positives. Yeah, Listen, I wish the
last seven years, you know, with all those positives, I
do wish the last seven years were probably a little
bit different than that. But definitely a lot of cool
things about doing what I've gotten to do in the

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last few years.

Speaker 18 (01:28:55):
You've got five kids. They were too young or not
born when you won the Super so earlier this year,
when you beat the Steelers on Thursday night, when you
threw for four seventy against the Bears. Now your kids
are old enough to watch it and appreciate it. Is
that the best part about still playing at forty.

Speaker 16 (01:29:13):
It's definitely a cool part of it, it really is.
And they just want more. You know, you do one game,
they want more, they want more.

Speaker 12 (01:29:19):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:29:22):
It's very I think a couple of years ago. I
think in twenty three when I got signed and went
to Cleveland and that was like the first real time
that they actually cared, you know, in twenty nineteen. Yeah,
like by the time I left Baltimore, like they had
they were, you know, six years old. I think I
was at six or something like that. Like you'd think
they'd be old enough to kind of get it a

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little bit, but they don't, not until they're nine, ten, eleven,
you know. And twenty three was the first time where
like even though I signed late, like when I signed there,
I was the guy and I got to go win
and play some good games. That was the first real
time that they understand of what was going on and
got to be a part of it. And that's I

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think that was the cool part. Is you always enjoy
sharing these things and with and having the people that
you really love and care about be a part of
it with you. And when it's your kids, that's just
a whole other level of like love and care that
you have for somebody, And it definitely did make it

(01:30:30):
pretty special. I think it was special for them, but
you know, like whatever, they're kids, they're gonna you know,
it was definitely special for me because I think, just
like I said, the more people that you care about
that you get to bring in on this thing and
enjoy it with, it just makes it that much sweeter.
If it was just me hanging out there, and yeah,
it would have been fun with my teammates and all that,
but then you go home to an empty house and
you kind of Okay, it's over. When you have people

(01:30:54):
to enjoy it with, that mean a lot to you.
It definitely means something else. So that was my first
taste of it, and and yeah, it was pretty cool.

Speaker 18 (01:31:02):
He went viral several weeks ago for discussing the joys
of going to a restaurant alone. How did your wife
take that?

Speaker 16 (01:31:10):
She laughed, just like everybody else. Yeah, she You know,
we're so past that point where it's like what.

Speaker 18 (01:31:17):
Are you doing?

Speaker 8 (01:31:18):
You're doing this and I'm doing that.

Speaker 16 (01:31:19):
You know, we've gone through those stages where you may
want to feel a certain way about what the other
person's doing. You know, we're so past that thankfully, And
I and I and I think she's at the point too,
like she wants to see me have success and she's
she's she's partaking in that success. I mean, she's a
huge part of that. So you know, if people are

(01:31:43):
getting a good laugh out of eye interviews or anything
like that, I think she's kind of enjoying it.

Speaker 8 (01:31:47):
For the most part too.

Speaker 18 (01:31:49):
Final fun fact, this one's kind of deep. If you
could meet anyone in history, living or deceased, who would
that person be?

Speaker 16 (01:31:58):
Wow, I'm good at these questions. I don't know if
I have anybody specific. You know, we were just talking
about all the unknowns that are in this world, and man,
what would you like answers to? And you know, what
would it be cool if you knew the answers to.
I mean, shoot, I'd love to go back to when
those pyramids are built then talk to somebody from that time,

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you know, and see what was the deal with that.
But it's hard for me to pick out somebody specific.

Speaker 18 (01:32:27):
I'll cut your break because you've answered every other question
beautifully and it's been a real treat to see you
play and to see you lead this team.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
Thanks so much, Joe, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
I say it every time I hear Joe Flacco talk.
I loved until he came here. My exposure to Joe
Flacco was just like sound bites when he played on
various teams. You'd hear a comment after a game. But
the more he talks and the more reflective you understand
he is. And you said it a couple of weeks ago, Dave,
there is in your mind. I think a lot of

(01:32:57):
people's minds there's a spot for Joe Flacco on this
roster next season, assuming there's comfort here on both sides,
and assuming there's not an opportunity to start someplace else.
I think we both could see Joe Flacco on this
team next year.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Oh absolutely, He'd be the ideal number two quarterback for
the Cincinnati Bengals. I mean, he's already made some serious friends, yeah,
relationships on this football team. I mean, Joe Flacco is
really a good person. I mean, married, so, a husband,
father of five. He's a busy guy. And the fact

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is when he went in the football to play football
games in the absence of Joe Borrow, he did well.
He performed well, and I think that what he has
done this year and how he's integrated himself with everybody,
with the coaches, with the players, with the system, how
they want to play football. He fits what they want
in a quarterback. I'd be surprised if he doesn't have

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a better option, like you said, Lance, because I think
he's played well off where other teams in the league
are gonna be like now, he's you know, he's long
in the tooth, forty years old. That's an issue, but
you know, the guy can still spin it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:09):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
He's proven he can still throw it and throw it
well and did a good job for the Cincinnati Bengals.
I think the Bengal would be thrilled to have Joe
Burrow Joe Flacko back in training camp next year, backing
up Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
Yeah, that's the only problem. There's two Joes, and I
always catch myself which I start to say one and
I meet the other and we come back and change
his name. Still ahead, let's talk about those Ravens. You'll
hear John Harbaugh's opening thoughts from their loss yesterday to
the Steelers, and we'll look ahead to the rematch against Baltimore.
That is next Bengals line on the Bengals Radio Network

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Speaker 3 (01:34:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Next up, Baltimore Ravens. Tough luck losers yesterday at home
twenty seven to twenty two to the Steelers. Ravens dropped
to six and seven. Controversy late when a touchdown was
overturned that the Ravens looked like they had taken the lead,
but it's a rule of no catch and they fall
twenty seven to twenty two. Here's John Harball after the game.

Speaker 24 (01:35:22):
All right, good game, tough loss. Fought to the end
four games last Season's not over. Fighting for THEFC North
for the next four games. That's where we stand. What questions,
Jee on.

Speaker 11 (01:35:36):
The replay, it looked like Isaiah had got in two
feet down. What was the explanation that was given to
you on the sideline?

Speaker 24 (01:35:42):
Yeah, the explanation was a third foot didn't get down
before the ball came out.

Speaker 3 (01:35:45):
That's what they said.

Speaker 10 (01:35:47):
Do you believe it should have been touchdown?

Speaker 24 (01:35:49):
Uh, you know what, I believe a lot of things
I think, I think to play with I think the
Aaron Rodgers play, I mean just com of rules here.
It's not an officiating issue.

Speaker 18 (01:35:57):
It comes from New York.

Speaker 24 (01:35:57):
But you know when you when you when you're making
a catch, you have to you have to you have
to survive the ground. You know, he he didn't survive
the ground. He's no doubt, he's not down by contact.

Speaker 3 (01:36:06):
He was catching.

Speaker 24 (01:36:07):
He was catching the ball on the way down with
another person. So you got to you gotta make a
catch there and survive the ground. I don't know why
it was ruled the way it was on that one.
So all those things, I'm sure we'll they'll explain to us.
But they had plenty of time to look at and
they're the ones who are the experts on the rules.

Speaker 18 (01:36:22):
So that's how it works.

Speaker 3 (01:36:23):
How was the Rogers playing that?

Speaker 10 (01:36:24):
He was just down with the progression of the book?

Speaker 7 (01:36:30):
John, what did you see on the Travis Jones so.

Speaker 24 (01:36:32):
Kindly on the field goal that I didn't see heading
that contact, That's what I did not see. So but
you you need to have head and head in that
career of contact there and it's gotta be forceful, you know, contact,
not incident contact. I didn't see any contact myself.

Speaker 10 (01:36:50):
John, How do you, you know, talk to the players
when you know, in a game where you feel like
some calls might not go on your way? How do
you how do you address and kind of take this
loss in and try to explain that.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
To you men?

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Your players?

Speaker 24 (01:37:01):
Yeah, I mean the players. The players don't you know,
they know they've been in the NFL. They know how
this stuff works, you know, And I tell them basically,
we're not We're not. We're don't make any excuses. We
don't put fingers. That's not what we do here.

Speaker 18 (01:37:11):
We never have.

Speaker 24 (01:37:12):
We walk out of here with our chest out and
or chin up, you know, and we look to the
next game.

Speaker 8 (01:37:17):
You know.

Speaker 24 (01:37:17):
We are fighting still for everything that we want to accomplish,
you know. So it's been it's tough. It's been a tough,
challenging road for sure, but that's where we're you know,
and we will keep fighting and we believe we can
get it done.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
Ravens six and seven and Davids. We look to the
rematch and think about what happened to the first one.
Odds are the Ravens won't turn it over five times again.
Odds are the Bengals won't be as bad as one
for six in the red zone like they were, And
odds are probably that Baltimore is not gonna get it's
gonna feed Derek Henry more than the ten times in
the first matchup.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
That's that's the crazy thing. I mean, because this guy,
you talk about it, Piecet, you talk about an animal
and pushing six to three, pushing two hundred and fifty
pounds and can fly. I mean, it's that God blessed
him with unique talents and there's broke them mold you
know when they when they uh produced Derrick Henry, that

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was the end no more. He is something else and
he wears you out. He just grinds on you, wears
you down just and not going to wear you down
though with only ten carries and and and the thing
about him is a big power back like him. Uh,
he can make you miss you know, and run away

(01:38:33):
from you. And then if you you know, if you
really play softly to you know, wait for the next
move to make you miss move, he'll lower the pad
level and just flatten your butt. Man, He'll run your
ass over and and smile while he's doing it. He
loves doing it. So yeah, they're they're an interesting football team.
And uh, I have a lot of respect for Harball.

(01:38:54):
I think he does a phenomenal job and and he
players love to play for John Harbaugh. He is a
players head coach.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
You better keep an eye on and tackle Mark Andrews.

Speaker 15 (01:39:08):
Yes, yes, another, Oh my god, Well down the Stretch
Final thoughts next Bengals line on the Bengals Radio Network
and seven hundred wl W.

Speaker 2 (01:39:25):
Right down the Stretch Final Thoughts up the night day.
Four games to go. The scenario is simple, I don't know. Simple.
You gotta win the final four. The Steelers have to
lose three of their final four and the Ravens have
to lose at least two of their four, and uh
then the Bengals would win tiebreakers. But let's just focus
on beating the Ravens. We'll go from there. How that

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sounds like a plan, because winning four when you've only
won four to this point is a big hurdle.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
So let's just work on one very good point, very strong, and.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
Then we'll talk next week. He is dab five of
my plants. McAllister, This has been Bengals Line on the
Bengals Radio network and seven hundred WLW.

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