Eddie & Jason -- 10/22/25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
With the Inquirer. Your benefits plans are coming up here,
people with Medicare and stuff, and I don't know what
I should do about that because I'm sixty eight years old.
You know what, Let's let's get our guests on this
is cool to have. I can actually get a free

(00:21):
consultant here. But what we're talking about here when you
go in it is that time of year when you
you know, have to go back in and do your
insurance work. Insurance YEP, and Medicare as a matter of fact,
that we're talking about pretty healthy jump in price here

(00:43):
to discuss daniel leboard lebroad from Healthcare Benefits. He's our
healthcare benefits expert. And daniel what are we looking at here?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
You know, I think we're in for a shock this year.
We were kind of in our industry were kind of
warned about it earlier in the year that we are
going to see bigger increases.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
But I'll tell you, you know, we position.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Clients typically to say, hey, you're gonna have to look
at an eight to.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Ten percent each year.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
You kind of budget for that, and our goal is
to always, you know, hopefully get that down further off,
bringing an option that lower that. But right now across
the US we're seeing i mean ten is on the
low side. We're seeing twenty and thirty percent increases, which
is unheard of.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
And then you don't even have to do with you know,
any particular reason.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
It's just it's across the board, particularly the small employers,
those with under fifty employees who are the hardest hit.
They're gonna get destroyed this year. And that hurts employees
as well because they got to pick up a portion
or all of that increase as well.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
So, Daniel, let me ask, and I think everybody's asking
the same question in their brain right now, is how
come on both sides of the aisle. Every year, every politician,
it seems like, running on we're going to get healthcare
prices under control, We're going to lower them this, that
and the other, and now stuff like this happens and
it looks like, as you just said, you're we're telling

(02:01):
people to build in that cost for basically the rest
of your life. Well, why can't this be controlled?

Speaker 5 (02:10):
The only it can be controlled?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
And that's the problem, The issue, the biggest issue we
have right now is the system is controlled by really
two parties.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
You're controlling. It's controlled by the larger healthcare systems.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
You're you know, in Dallas we've got big Textans Health
and Presbyterian and Baylor, Scott and White. Across the nation,
you've got very large healthcare systems and they work. You know,
their primary payer are the insurance companies. In my opinion,
the two of them are in collusion.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
You know, they're.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
They're battling and working on contracts to get paid by
the insurance companies. Insurance companies are trying to pay them,
but overall the two of them are. All they worry
about is profit, and they have to answer their board
of directors. And so there's a misaligned incentive when it
comes to the employers and the and the public because
we just.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Want good healthcare and a reasonable rate.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
But they're trying to but they're having to answer, they're
having answer shareholders.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
And they have to make profit. And you know, it
just doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
And that's why a race go up every year because
they everyone has to give themselves a ten percent raise
every year. They have to go to the board and say, hey,
how do we make more money? Well, we got to
raise rates. How do you that's it? You raise race
you have to do that, you have to pay providers.
It's just a back and forth between the two of them. Meanwhile,
we're sitting back here going we're footing the bill. So
there are ways, there are ways, however, to stop that,

(03:27):
and we're doing it at our company and a lot
of broken around the country.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
But I'll let you kind of ask the next question.
I'll get into that.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Well, that was going to be my next question was
how do you break up that? How did you break
up that party in exactly? How do you get more
competition in there?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And yeah, so it's not even competition. So it comes
down a contract.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
So the largest payer of healthcare in the United States, Medicare,
they could.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Everything is based off of them.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
So here's a good example in a way to understand
how healthcare works with the health insurance company that health
care and the health systems. If I get a uh,
you said, you're sixty eight, I think ed right, you know,
on a day over forty, just so you know, so
if you go and get a procedure done and Medicare

(04:12):
pays that health system one thousand dollars for it, right,
that's the basis of all of all negotiation, of all contracts.
Medicare is the basis. So Medicare pays that provider one
thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (04:24):
Done, the health system.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Says, hey, signa, we're going to bill you six hundred
percent Medicare. So they bill signa six thousand dollars for
that procedure, right, six times. Now Sigma though says, hey,
wait a minute, we have a contract with you. We're
going to go ahead and we're going to we're gonna
give you a fifty percent discount. What happens then it
goes down to three thousand. That is still three hundred
percent Medicare. We are paying three times what that true

(04:50):
rate of the procedure is. And that's the problem with
the system. The two of them are overpaying. We're overpaying
for care that that we shouldn't be We should be
doing the same and the public should be paying the
same amounts of Medicare, or what we call reference faates pricing,
we pay a little bit more. We say, okay, Medicare
doesn't make it really profitable for healthcare systems. I mean

(05:11):
there might be a couple of percentage points with a profit.
We say, hey, we're going to pay your fair reason amount.
Let's call it one hundred and twenty five, one hundred
and fifty percent of Medicare. The healthcare systems make money.
We pay a lot less for the healthcare we're getting.
And that's how you keep control. That's how you controlled
the cost of health care by reducing the amount we're
paying for claims. And in that case, everyone wins. The

(05:32):
healthcare systems get paid, the employees get their health coverage,
and our rates stay down.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
The only one not happy about it is the insurance company.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Daniel Lebrod is our guest. He is the CEO of
Ovation Health and Life Services. And so daniel who who
needs to make this change? Can we as people? I mean,
obviously we're the ones that are taking it up the
you know, and what can we do about it? If
the politicians aren't doing anything about it, how can we

(06:03):
change this?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So we're changing this. What we say is and I
have a mastermind group. We talk about this a lot.
We're changing in one employer at a time. In my opinion, honestly,
it starts with the employers. The employers have to be
fed up and they are getting set up because they
can't afford it. They can't afford to offer benefits the
employers need to first of all, know there are options
and ways to do things, and these are things. Number one,

(06:25):
you need to go self funded, and we can do
self funding down to the smallest employer of two people
all the way up to thousands, thous the biggest companies in
the nation use self funding as the mechanism to control costs.
You need to be working with a consultant or a
broker that embraces level funded self funding captives alternative funding situations.

(06:45):
And some people think, well, that's new, I've never heard
of it. Well, first of all, it's been around forever,
and the ACA actually made it more viable to do
it for smaller groups. But actually, now sixty four percent
I believe the number is about sixty four percent of
all all US employers are doing some sort of self
funding health plan. But that's still a lot of those

(07:07):
are the big employers. But still everyone is starting to
embrace that because of realizing it's the only way to
make change.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
So my open enrollment's coming up in my company, whatever
they offer me, that's that's what I got. Or is
there a way to even is there an even little
tricks of the trade to kind of you know, nibble
around and save yourself a few bucks.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
You know, if you're getting through your employer, it really
has to go into the employees complaining to the employer like,
we can't afford this, we need we need to look
at I heard about these alternative strategies which are becoming
the mainstream now. So you just say, hey, why are
we why are we fully insured? Why aren't we looking
at these other things, these other options. Have you talked
to our consultant and a broker about that. Unfortunately, the

(07:53):
employees don't know what they don't know, and they're just
taking what the employer gives them, and they don't have
the power to make necessarily make that change. I know
in Texas, if you're out in the you say, well,
maybe I can go to the individual market under healthcare
dot Gov and get a policy. Well, Texas, all that's
available is HMO and nobody likes it, you know, And

(08:14):
so everyone is kind of stuck in these and even
those rates are terrible for the most part, they're going
up every year. It does start in my it does
start with the employer, but the employer is not going
to be making changes until either it hurts their pocketbook
or the employees complain enough that I just can't do this,
I can't afford this, and so it is it's.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Got to be there's got to be that pain to
make that move. And I think this year is gonna
be the year of pain.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Daniel Lebron is our guest from Ovation Health and Life
and Daniel talk about that as I. As I said,
I'm not on medicare yet, but definitely thinking about it.
What should I get a consultant because I hear so
many people say, hey, talk to consultant, They'll tell you
what to do in the plans blah blah blah. Or
should I just go on with these government websites and

(09:01):
look it over? What's the best option?

Speaker 2 (09:04):
So as you call them medicare, Medicare is really confusing.
We have we actually, you know, I have an in
house specialists for that. We help people get a Medicare
because it is so many options, you know, and you
see people we have someone on our on our staff
that turned sixty five last year or in March, and
you know they helped with it. She's like, oh my god,
I turned sixty four and a half. I started getting

(09:25):
My mailbox is full of stuff up Medicare, and I'm
so confused, so I think you need There's a lot
of options out There's Medicare supplements, there's Medicare advantage plans.
I personally like Medicare advantage plans. I think there they
give you the best coverage at the lowest cost. And
basically your your Medicare is paying a health insurance company
to pull you off of the Medicare books. Basically you

(09:47):
get better coverage through a private through a private insurer,
and it helps Medicare because now that the claims go
to the insured, not to Medicare, which helps to help
the Medicare system.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Define everything. The financial decision.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
That you have to look at it and say, what's
the coverage of those, what's the cost going to be,
and what is my best what's best for me financially,
And that's everything. We have to be asked about HSA's earlier,
and I'm like, I'm not a big fan of HSA's
any longer, but they have their purpose for some people.
You have to wait out financially for yourself, your family
and what is best for you, and that's where you

(10:20):
definitely need, whether it's a medicure consultant or your employee, benefits, consultant,
at your at your employer. Somebody needs to be able
to guide you along that pathway, and you should be
getting that kind.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Of service from your broker, consultant partner.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Anyways, you know, it's says she said about the HSA.
I just started doing one a couple of years ago,
and I like it a lot. It's maybe it's just
a mind thing where I'm like, Okay, there's a bill
that comes in as my kid went to the doctor,
and it's seventy five bucks. I'm like, okay, well I
didn't I didn't budget for that this month. Well okay,

(10:53):
no worries because I had enough in my HSA to
cover it. And you know, so it obviously still comes
out of your paycheck. But I don't know, I've kind
of come to like that. Why don't Why aren't you
a big fan?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
It's in very So let's go back to when HSA's
came out. Originally, when they came out years ago, it.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Was it was the whole idea was that there was
a big cost difference between an HSA plan and say,
a copay plan, so I could have my fifteen hundred
dollars double copay plan it's five hundred dollars and my
AHSA plan is three hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Awesome, I say two hundred dollars a month. I put
it in an HSA account.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Now it's twenty four hundred dollars a year in that
HSA account.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I'm saving money and.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
I still own the cash, and I only use it
if I really need to. Makes total financial sense. I've
had HSA plans. The problem nowadays is the HSA premiums
have caught up to the copay plans, and so now
employers put that in and the employee says, well, I
can't afford it. He said, I can't afford a doctor
busins this month. I have nothing, And employees are not

(11:54):
putting money into an AHSA account any longer. And so
what ends up happening is the employee says, well, basically,
I have no coverage on my health plan, so I'm
just not going to go the doctor. And they're so
they're getting crappier coverage for the same price you go.
Now I have other other clients that say, hey, I
don't use it. If I do, I can afford a
doctor visit and and I want to use that agency
to funnel, you know, eight thousand dollars a year for

(12:15):
my family tax free. That's where we see most people
doing it, is they're using it as a tax free
you know, put money away tax free and that makes
financial sense.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
All right, Well, daniel Lebroad, we could talk about this forever,
and I'm sure we want to talk to you again.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Good stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
People want to find out more about what it is
you do there at ovation Life.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Where can they go?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Uh, dan Lebroad on LinkedIn great way to connect with me,
and then you can go to ovationlife dot com and
connect with us.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
There as well.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Daniel thanks so much.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
Man, Hey, thank you.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Take care, take care. And uh, it's also confusing. That's
the reason I brought it up because obviously all my
friends are about my age, and everybody's is always talked
about medicare and trying to get on that, but even healthcare.
I'm though, I'm I've had a healthcare system, you know,
a plan working at every job I've had, and every

(13:13):
one of those things, I was like, uh, just do
what I did last year.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
That's what I do a lot. I mean, frankly, you
know what everybody does. Frankly, take right, Frankly, you take
it for granted. Oh, absolutely, Like yeah, it's I mean,
I'm saying we shouldn't I should certainly I shouldn't.

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Speaker 1 (15:28):
All right, back on the Eddie and Rocky show. Walk
out today, You'll be back tomorrow. Jason Williams from the
Inquirer Cincinnati dot Com with us So Jace, every once
in a while, I like to do my wife as solid, just.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Every once in a while. Should this should be an
everyday thing?

Speaker 7 (15:49):
Right?

Speaker 11 (15:50):
No?

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Not really. The last good solid I did there, last
good Solida dinner was my wife somewhere would be rolling
her eyes if she weren't work king listening people tell her.

Speaker 12 (16:04):
I trust me.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
The last good solid I did or was marrying her.
And she knows that.

Speaker 12 (16:11):
She thanks me every day but daily I have no
idea how to respond and stuff. I think a really
good answer.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
I'm going to get, thank you for marrying me, Eddie.
He just rolls over, thank you for marrying me every day.
First words, let her take on my belly like a puppy,
and uh yeah, it's good.

Speaker 13 (16:31):
Anyways to make your leg gonna come up in the air,
I started.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
I know we're on radio, folks, but he just did
the tickle motion with his hands.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
There and that was did the puppy Caick did the
puppy kick. Anyways, besides all this foolishness, we you do
have some stuff going on. And my lovely wife does
do her for Big Brothers Big Sisters of Greater Cincinnati
and and I'm so proud of what she does, and

(17:00):
she does a great job. And you guys got some
cool stuff going on.

Speaker 12 (17:06):
Well, yeah, thanks for let me talk about it, because
there's a couple of things. In addition to we always
need people to volunteer, So please consider becoming a mentor.
There's kids out there. We have a couple hundred on
the waiting list, so.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
To think about.

Speaker 12 (17:18):
You know, you've got an hour every week or two
and you can give it and a kid would really benefit.
But in addition to meeting mentors, we always need funds
to help support these matches. And so next Tuesday we
have this. It's our seventh, i think our seventh annual
Big Breakfast event. It's a three pavilion and we have
some amazing panelists. Mike l Rossa from obviously l Rossa's being,

(17:39):
Gregory from Montgomery and Dick Williams from Skyline are giving
us their time and coming out to talk about the
importance of mentoring in their personal and professional lives. And
so we have almost a full house, but some individual
tickets are still for sale if people want to kind
of want to look us up and for some reason
you can't make it. We have the Raffle of Raffles,

(17:59):
which is food from each of these places for a year.
So there's one thousand dollars to Montgomery, and there's fifty
two certificates for pizzas from Lorosa, there's from from Skyline.
There's fifty two Coney's plus one hundred dollars plus because
they're always so popular. A full set of those Bengals
bottleheads that are out, so they've all been super generous.

(18:21):
So we hope everybody can come, but if you can't come,
you can still get involved.

Speaker 14 (18:23):
And then the Reds ended.

Speaker 12 (18:24):
Up donating this giant basket with donated bottleheads and signed items,
and so there's all kinds of ways folks can get involved.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
I love this, I love this panel. These are three
awesome guys Stick Williams, Stan Gregory, Mike Rosa, all guys
with great home hometown heroes exactly.

Speaker 12 (18:43):
Exactly, and they're they're just they mean so much to
the community. And you know, Big Brothers Speak Sisters was
founded here in Cincinnati in nineteen oh three, and so
we thought, what better way to honor the whole agency
than to bring in people who you know, carry on
a tradition of all the amazing things they do in
the community today.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Dean Gregory is an incredible storyteller. And I say that
with the like that guy, I could sit and listen
to his stories Burle Burle Love and I had him
on our podcast The Inquire a couple of years ago,
and I'm like, just keep the tape rolling, because the
stories that that guy tells are just it's incredible. Is

(19:20):
he gonna is he gonna have that opportunity or is
THEREK Is this pretty okay?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Nice?

Speaker 5 (19:25):
So it's over?

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Is worth the events only like an hour and a
half long, isn't it?

Speaker 5 (19:31):
I mean, oh, you need you need you need to
expand it out for like three or four hours and
then have it you have a little cigar hour as well,
and he'll just court Yeah.

Speaker 15 (19:43):
But they all get a chance to tell their stories
we asked you about, you know, just kind of their
experiences in town and and it is it's a quick hour.
We have a seven to eight, have some breakfast, and
then it's eight to nine and they tell their stories and.

Speaker 12 (19:55):
We have our big and Little Brother of the Year
who were telling their stories. And if it's just there's
just a lot going. It's a packed hour. But I'm
telling you the stories that we've heard over the last
seven years. It's just amazing what you walk away from
in terms of, you know, perspective and appreciation, whether it's
for the lives they've lived or they're impact here and

(20:15):
just mentoring all together.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, see you actually you have mentored what three four girls, three.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
Three little girls.

Speaker 12 (20:27):
I would always go over to Newport Elementary and our
primary and just you know, it's for me. It was
forty five minutes a week at her school, at their school,
and so that worked out great. So we have those programs,
which I was amazed by how much forty five minutes
a week during a school year meant to a kid.
It was stunning to me how much she looked forward.

(20:48):
They look forward to me coming by and just kind
of having lunch and talking about it. And our community
based program. You go and pick them up at their
home maybe a Saturday or maybe on a Tuesday evening
when you both have time. But you can make it work.
You can make it work. And we have kids out
there who would be so grateful, and a lot of
bigs who are our best recruiters talking about the impact
it makes on them too, and not just the kids.

(21:11):
It's pretty incredible. These kids go to college, or they
go into a trade, or they go to the military,
and they end up being terrific members of society who
give back on their own and the ripple effect in
our communities is incredible because they're working and supporting their
families and being really really great people to look up to.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Cool well, and I think that's and we're talking to
my wife Deborah and w we you and I've talked
about it, and I know what you guys do and stuff.
But I think that's a common misconception that you have
to dedicate a day or a weekend or whatever the
case might be to these kids. And as you said,

(21:52):
I mean forty five minutes a week. It ain't nothing,
but man, it can.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Help a kid.

Speaker 12 (21:58):
Yeah, you barely knew I was gone, that's what and
then but it is, it's difficult. It's somebody's showing up
for them who in their lives, they don't necessarily have
a lot of structure, and people who say they're going
to show up don't. And so when I would walk
through that door, or when any big walks through the door,
those kids are just so appreciative that you have come

(22:18):
back because you said you would, You were consistent, and
you did what you say you were going to do,
and it matters, and these kids matter, and so to
have somebody in their lives, and I just really encourage people.
Don't think it's going to take so much of your time.
Think about adding this person into your schedule when you're
running errands on a Saturday, or that's what you do
for lunch one day a week on a Thursday. And

(22:40):
we work really hard to make sure it doesn't cost
people a bunch of money. We have a ton of
activities and free things, and God love folks at the Zoo,
the nature Center, the museum Center, King's Island, all the
sporting teams in town offer us tickets to get to
our matches so that they could do those things the
kids wouldn't have a chance to do.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
That's all. As I was going to ask you about,
like what are some things you can do, and then
you know where does big brothers, big sisters come in
and help in that way? You mentioned the school, So
does you guys all see partner with certain schools too,
where you can sign up to be a mentor to
a student that maybe even your local neighborhood school.

Speaker 12 (23:19):
Sure, we have certain there's certain schools that we have
relationships with, but they're long term kind of relationships that
we have, and so they're all over We serve thirteen
counties and so we have them bodily throughout all of
those counties. So if that's what fits best for you,
like some people would want to go Like for me,
I left the office and went over to Newport. Some

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people might like to go to one of our after
school programs closer to where they live. And so we
have a lot of things. Trust me, if you want
to volunteer with our agency, we will find a way.
And you can look at the website and just see
the work that we're doing so results with the kids
and just realize that it can work for you. And
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That'll give you all the information we just talked about, recruiting, volunteering,
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Speaker 5 (25:05):
Deborah. Thank you sing a bit, thank you, good stuff,
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Uh yeah, but I'm I am. I talk a lot
of crap, but I'm so proud of what she does
they do great, great work and you can tell Deb
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Yeah, and she walks to walk and I mean she
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but does does the work. So that's great.

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One of the little girls that she mentored back when
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real problem kid in school. And but you know, talking
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grown in.

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College, that's awesome. So yeah, it gives me goosebumps. Turned
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Speaker 5 (28:07):
Alexander Coole is from the Acquired Business Reporter, talking about
Dolly's being here and gone right. I didn't even get here, right.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I think tomorrow is Everything's supposed to be a closed.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Door and big boy yep. Everything.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
So now is Frish is going to try to make
a comeback? There are fishes around, I know that, but
is this. Were they going to come back in and go, okay,
let's reclaim this and come back or they're just going
to turn I forget who we talked to the other day.
It was Nick me Knakis, right, well, it was no

(28:47):
from locally. It was Dan Munk from Channel nine from
the I team who had been reporting on this as well,
and he was talking about if some restaurant doesn't come
in and claim these places, they're I'm going to just
start parceling it out. And he said, these are prime locations.
Caprichio's is always known for that, so that could be
a car wash there, or a gas station or whatever.

(29:11):
So I was thinking about it today. Actually, Jason, if
if you would have told me, if you were told
anybody who grew up around here maybe ten years ago,
you could kind of see it kind of circling the
drain a little bit, because I was starting to go
downhill and stuff. But certainly, if you had told me

(29:31):
twenty years ago that Frishes would be gone from this area,
I would have told you you were nuts.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
I mean, Fishes was an institution here, correct Skyline Chili, Yeah,
I mean that literally.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
It would be like every chili place goes out of business,
you know, it's like every Skyline closed, every gold Star closed, whatever.
But Frish has gone away. I'm never, in my wildest dreams, never.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
I mean, I've got one right down the street from
my house. We used to go there a lot. My
kids were smaller, they're little now. I mean, but when
they were littler, we'd go there for the Saturday breakfast bars.
It just, I'll tell you it just it turned bad.
Not the food, just the service and the cleanliness of
the restaurant. And it's like, e, that's what happened with us.

(30:19):
I told that one the other day, exactly the same thing.
When my kids were little, there was a Freshes not
too far from us, and you know, they that's when
your kids wouldn't get up. And believe me, if you
don't have little kids yet, you better be ready to
eat breakfast at six thirty seven o'clock on a Saturday morning,
because if you ain't giving them cheerios, you better be

(30:41):
ready to head someplace that opens early. And that's what
we would do. We'd head to Frishes and do the
breakfast bar. And I saw it just in the two
or three years that the kids were little. I saw
it just kind of man, after a while, that's pitiful,
pet like you could just tell it like you just
felt the yuck of the tables like you never I

(31:06):
never ridden knew if the table was clean or not.
And like the door when you you know, go out
the door or whatever, like It's like, I'm usually pretty
careful about that. I wear long sleeve, which is one
of the reasons why I do so. I always tuck
my hand in. But I'm not really a German Poe.
But like there, I was like, well this is yeah,
I'm I don't worry about I do that around here.

(31:26):
I can't remember the last time. I can't remember the
last time I went to frishes.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
At this point, I agree, Uh, never turned down an
onion ring or a big boy, but a big boy's good.
And that's a I made. I tried to make my
It's funny and we say, we're talking about this right
now because I tried to make myself a fake buddy
boy today.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
Oh really, because we had some good ham in the fridge.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, and so I tried to fashion it and I
got some Frishes tartar sauce we always have in the fridge,
and uh, it was nothing like it, but it was
pretty damn good. Now, So I told my wife, was like,
it's not a buddy boy, but it's a damn fiam sandwich.
What is the buddy boy ham Fresh's tartar sauce, cheese cheesez. Yeah,

(32:12):
A little little pickle a little lettuce. That sounds good. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Now the good news is that the freshest Tartar sauce
is here to stay because remember that's another company that
has that and that's not going anywhere. We get a
guess about it. We talked to that lad.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
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Speaker 1 (32:28):
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Speaker 1 (38:25):
The first time County's thing that really it surprised me
what a big deal it was. I mean, I get
the whole Frishes thing kind of full, and I've gotten you.
I've gotten a couple of emails from people saying there
are good friesshes around. I get it, there totally are, yes,
but they are you know, they're think about I have

(38:47):
no idea. I wish I had that number in front
of me. How many fishes there were in this in
the Tri state area and every one of it. If
you walked into frishes, you knew what you were getting.
It was going to be good. The service was going
to be good, it was going to be clean, everything
was going to be the food was going to be
spot on boom boom boom. And that just kind of

(39:08):
trickled away, and then these Dolly's things come in and
it's almost like people resented them for.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
They were taking over the old big boy locations, right correct, Yeah,
Dolly's Burgers and what was it, burgers and shakes. I
never went to one.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Well, let's talk to your Campadre. Oh, buddy, Alexander Coolidge, Alex,
welcome back to the program.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Hi guys, going good.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
And buddy you you've been reporting on this since since
the get go, and so is it, Alex Almost that
these they were a victim of people kind of resenting them,
almost like they came in and forced fishes out when
all they were doing was coming in and taking over
these locations, or is it more just they didn't know

(39:53):
how to manage restaurants.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 20 (39:59):
What is that it was. There were signs early on
that there were some issues. Just to take.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
It back a little bit for review.

Speaker 20 (40:12):
A year ago, you know, all through fall and well
into winter, Fresh's Big Boys at a massive falling out
with its its prime landlord, and it went from having
about eighty restaurants plus grand total, you know, including well

(40:40):
over a dozen here just in Cincinnati, to having they
only have about thirty one total locations now and a
lot of those are actually licensed and franchised out to
other operators, not not even run by Fresh's itself for
saying that sort of thing. So they they were actually

(41:01):
they went through eviction processes. They were like, just dozens
of these things they closed last winter, and uh, their
their landlord said, you know, you always more than four
point five million dollars in back rent, uh, and we're
kicking you out. And then it got really interesting because

(41:22):
it turns out that same landlord started tucking the Big
Boy out of Michigan, which is a related They're not related,
they're like sibling companies. Big Boy first appeared in California.

(41:46):
California Big Boy was trying to figure out how to
expand uh, and he discovered the dawn of franchising.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
He cut a deal with.

Speaker 20 (41:58):
Frishes back in the you know, the forties, saying, hey,
here's your territory, use my brand name, that sort of thing. Well,
he cut a similar deal with a group of brothers
out of Michigan and did the same thing then. And
this is like going back to the forties and fifties

(42:18):
all that. Later on, the Michigan folks bought out California,
and so there's sort of these two historic brands that
have existed for eons. Harry. So the landlord talks to Michigan,
Michigan says, hey, you got a bunch of old restaurants
and are closed. We'll take them over. So that's how
this whole thing started with that.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
That's how the dollies thing came along.

Speaker 20 (42:43):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, Henry, what happens is Chriscia's
Big Boy gets the wind of it, and then he said,
wait a minute, you can't come in here and open
up Big Boys operating Big Boys with our names in
our territory. Yeah, because what happened was there was there

(43:04):
there have been multiple agreements over the decades about the
use of the name, and what Frush has said was,
wait a minute, we have a trademark. We you your
company is called Big Boy, but we own Big Boy
in Cincinnati and throughout much of Ohio. So that's where
the uh so, Big Boy Michigan is in the midst

(43:28):
of this expansion and they're like, going, well, I'll tell
you what. Well, let's just call it Dollies for now,
named after Big Boy's girlfriend in the comic books from
back back in the day, and we'll just sort of
see it from there. But there was this ongoing lawsuit
over the trademark for these past several months, and then

(43:51):
and then there were signs of problems that emerged quickly
after they opened the Dollies. They opened the first couple
very close to each other here in Cincinnati in early March,
and at the time, the folks from Big Boy Michigan said, Hey,
we're going to reopen fifty of these things and we're
all gonna you know, they're all going to operate under us.

(44:13):
And they always described Dollies as sort of a working
title name, meaning it was just going to be sort
of temporary, that sort of thing. But then and they
were interviewing people, they were soliciting people to apply for jobs,
and upwards of twenty of these things in the spring.

(44:34):
But then all of a sudden, all that disappears by
about April. What the last location of Dollies that opened
was in April, and that was in Dell High. It
was in that far from my house actually, and I've
eaten there a few times. I ate there a few
weekends ago. Thought it was fine, but it was very,

(44:56):
very very underpopulated that yeah, And I drove past it
several times. I would notice just mine. I was like,
I was always going, hey, I got to write an
update about these guys. And I'm like going, man, they
sure don't have a lot of people in the park lot.
I'm not sure what's up with about that. So that's
kind of that's a roundabout uh recap, I guess.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
So let me ask you, Alex.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
So we were talking about their kind of that was
supposed to be like a temporary branding. Was the hope
that eventually they were going to get the Frish's name
to use.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Or were they going to rebrand it off all together.

Speaker 20 (45:37):
They didn't want to call it Frish's Big Boy.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
They just wanted to call it Big Boys.

Speaker 20 (45:40):
So if they won, they would have you would have
had Big Boy Restaurants, and then you would have had
Fish's Big Boy Restaurants here in Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
So that would have been the issue.

Speaker 20 (45:52):
I think part of what might have well, I don't.
This is a part of the show called we don't know,
because both of these companies are private energies and there's
only so much disclosure in all the court filings. But
we'll call it I I don't know what.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
I think.

Speaker 20 (46:06):
It's possible that the fact that the temporary branding might
have hurt them, A lot of people might not have
There was there was a lot of hype about this,
a lot of a lot of news, a lot of
stories written by myself and many other outlets saying, oh,
here's Dolly's there related the Big Boy, but they're fighting
with this other big Boy, that sort of thing. But

(46:28):
a lot of people might have missed that, and they
might have been just going, what the heck is this
Dolly's concept? I don't, I don't, I don't know anything
about it, that sort of thing, And I'm busy and
I don't have enough money. And by the way, what's
up with all these temporary signs they keep putting up? Now,
they were like putting these like tarts up. You said,
dollies on.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Your story. Yeah from your Yeah, that's right. It just
looks looks pretty uh pretty low rent. I got a question, Alex,
so the tomorrow all the all these clothes by October
twenty three, reading from your sorens and saying dot com meanwhile,
are the are the Frishes big boys that are still around?

(47:12):
Are they remaining open? Are they also closing tomorrow?

Speaker 20 (47:16):
No, they're they're they're going to stay open. And they
even uh, they were like crowing, uh you know, the
same day that they shut.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
Down, and it's like, we're open. It's wonderful, it's great.

Speaker 20 (47:27):
Cha they were all but they were all the thing
ding dong, which is dead. Yeah, it's crazy. Now they
haven't changed their giant wave of closures you know was
uh I think it. I don't remember when the last one, uh,
when they were doing their mass closings, I don't remember

(47:48):
when the very last one happened.

Speaker 21 (47:51):
Uh.

Speaker 20 (47:51):
They were doing it almost in the in the undercover
of the night. But it was either this past January
or or in December basically. But they have thirty i
think thirty one locations in Kentucky, Indiana, and Ohio all together,

(48:15):
and that has remained stable for several months now.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
So yeah, I'm just real curious to see how all
this shakes out. And let me ask you too. We're
talking to Alexander Coolidge from the Inquirer Cincinnati dot com.
Alex it seems that so for a company that you
know is so big as the Dollies whatever you want

(48:38):
to call them, branch of this were and operating all
these stories in Michigan and California. Yeah, everything I heard
about him was that they had staffing issues, they had
supply issues, that people were going in there and I
want a big boy or whatever, and they'd be like, oh, well,
we don't have any Hamburgers today. Maybe not that drastic,

(49:02):
maybe not that drastic, but it was stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
I mean, how can that happen? Well, that's pretty crazy.

Speaker 14 (49:09):
A lot of there's a lot of.

Speaker 20 (49:11):
There's a lot of common ones in the restaurant industry.
To add to it, I think a lot of a
lot of restaurants, not just Dollies not just freshes, are
also struggling with just pricing u cumulative inflation since the
since just before the before the pandemic outbreak, is the

(49:35):
cost of living is twenty five percent plus more than
it was five a little over five years ago. It's
it's uh and unless you've gotten uh twenty five percent
worth of raises. At whatever job you're working, you're you're making.

(49:56):
Consumers are making less money than they used to, and
then restaurants are caught in the middle. They have higher prices,
they have to charge more or figure things out, and
then they have customers who don't want to spend as much.
My last the last time I went to Dolly's, I
was like, my father in law wanted to try, you know,

(50:18):
go there for like a family breakfast. We three people,
We ate fifteen bucks of plate and we're talking like
eggs and you know, pancakes, that sort of thing. That's
you know, that was not the most outrageous meal I've
ever had. But you know that's not exactly that.

Speaker 22 (50:35):
There was no.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Booze involved, having mimosas Bloody Mary's right.

Speaker 20 (50:41):
It's you know, going out to eat in twenty twenty
five is a lot different than it used to be,
and it's it remains. It's people are those who do
go out are being very choosy, and you know that's
part of an ongoing thing the restaurant industry. The reason
there was an opening for Dolly's was because Frishes was

(51:01):
struggling so mightily with these same with these same factors.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
So all right with with that, Alexander Coolidge, we appreciated
alex Thanks so much, buddy, good stuff friend. All right,
Alexander Coolidge from the inquir since ninety doc.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Man, he's been all over this big boy, Frish's Fresh's
big boy. We've talked to him a couple of times.
Dolly's whatever that my head spinning from all the names
and who's doing what? He's been all over that story.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Go back to what I said earlier, I can't believe
that Frishes has basically gone away.

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Is with me Rockaby back tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
So, Jayson, I ever since I was a kid, I've
wanted to be on some kind of game show.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
I don't care if you see. I could see that
with you, you know, being the radio guy all those
years and.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Wow, no, I just well I wanted to be on it,
not announce it. I wanted to be on prices riot
or freaking whatever, pick one of them ten thousand, well
whatever is now one hundred thousand dollars pyramid. You just
wanted to see Barker's beauties, Well, no doubt about that.
I ain't gonna lie. When I was a kid, I

(54:26):
kind of bind for a couple of those girls, and
apparently so did Bob. But but this local woman that
we're about to talk to actually realize that dream, my dream, Amanda, Yeah,
you get it. Amanda Tolkien's our guest and and Amanda,

(54:47):
so let's first off, congratulations for making it there. Amanda's
a local attorney working at for Carl Lewis and the
at that agency. And uh so explain the process from
jump it would do? People keep telling you, hey, Amanda,
you should try to get in there and did that

(55:07):
kind of thing or what happened?

Speaker 14 (55:10):
So I've always been huge in a trivia. I've been
playing bar trivia around town. It's probably fifteen twenty years.
And I have applied to Jeopardy since I was in college,
so probably close to twenty years. You take the online
anytime tests and then if you do well enough, they
have you taken another test pre COVID.

Speaker 12 (55:31):
It was in.

Speaker 14 (55:32):
Person, but now it's they have a camera on to
make sure you're not cheating, and then you do well
enough on that they have you on a zoom interview
with eight or nine other people and if they like
what they see, you could get a call anytime in
the next two years to come out to LA.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
And they liked what they saw. How when did this
process then from that moment start and how long before
you end up ultimately getting on air getting that call.

Speaker 14 (56:00):
This time around? I think I took the test in January,
and it's actually kind of funny. The zoom interview. I
forgot that my laptop mike didn't work and so I
was freaking out. They couldn't hear me and we had
to reschedule it. But I did it again, I want
to say, in May or June, and then I got

(56:22):
a called August and they said, hey, can you come
out here in September? And I said I'm already going
out for Oasis and they said you should just stay.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
Wow. So what.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
So?

Speaker 1 (56:40):
How what a happened stance that was? And what two
entirely different things that is?

Speaker 14 (56:47):
Unfortunately I could not stay in LA for two weeks.
My brother lives in Santa Monica. So I took two
trips in a week to La So and that's how
I got the Rose Bowl question. I was there the
week before.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Well see, yeah, that's the thing, and I got it
and I got to tell you. But what described before
we get into the actual show itself? What you being
up on stage and stuff? What's the prep?

Speaker 19 (57:17):
Like?

Speaker 5 (57:17):
I mean, how how do they stage this? Are they?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
I would assume they're shooting multiple episodes at a time?

Speaker 3 (57:24):
Huh five a day?

Speaker 5 (57:27):
Five a day?

Speaker 20 (57:28):
Okay, five a day.

Speaker 14 (57:30):
So they told me I had to be out there
for at least two days.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
So where are you during? Are you in the audience?
Are you sequestered someplace round? Does that work?

Speaker 14 (57:40):
They're actually pretty good about suppressing. If you haven't played yet,
you get to see a live feed of the episodes,
but all the contestants are kept in the green room
until you fly.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
And is there any way to prepare for what you're
gonna what the categories are going to be? And I
know you've you've been preparing for twenty years. I mean,
do on trivia all over the place, and obviously I'm
sure you're an avid reader and you know, consuming all
kinds of history and current events and everything. But is

(58:11):
there any way that you then in that moment, like
you know you're going to go on stage ahead of that,
are you doing any kind of a crash course on
you know, something that you think they might they might
be a category.

Speaker 14 (58:27):
So I watched tens of old episodes, but then I
also ordered a few encyclopedias and just did everything I could.
I've always been the kind of person that if I
have questions, I'll just go down Wikipedia hole.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 14 (58:46):
We read lots of news and if I'm curious about something,
I'm actually in an online trivia league as well learned league,
so that helped a ton. And I had a really
good friend who went on a few years ago, so
she kind of prepped me a little bit too in
terms of just what to expect, and but she went
during COVID, so that was a very different experience.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
So let's and we're talking to Amanda Tolki, who was
on Jeopardy just the other night. I've always when I've
heard people talk about being on that show, that the tree,
and I think Ken Jennings one of the big things
he had was you got to learn how to hit
that quick clicker at the right time or it's a
right is the buzzer?

Speaker 14 (59:29):
Yes, And unfortunately that's one of the weirdest things to
try to practice. I would watch the show with you know,
kind of a clickie pen. Okay, but until you get there,
you can't really practice on their system.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
So the moment the first time you're using that is
that when the when the on air camera comes on,
the bright lights go on.

Speaker 14 (59:49):
Well, thankfully they let us do two rounds of rehearsal
before we found any episode.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Okay, okay, well let me uh, let me ask you
what that's what's Ken Jennings like?

Speaker 14 (01:00:02):
Oh he was so personable, unfriendly and so much fun
to talk to. You could tell he really liked trivia
and are kind of behind the scenes same at the
end of the episode when you can hear him or
see him talking to us, but you can't hear it,
he will actually ask people how they got questions. He

(01:00:23):
didn't know, so when he first gets the questions that day,
he goes through and he plays a lot.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
Oh wow, that's cool.

Speaker 14 (01:00:30):
Ye, well he asked me about one of mine and
it felt so good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Well, I will tell you, Amanda that watching the last question. See,
I'm I always make fun of my wife because if
we're watching any game show, I don't care if it's
Jeopardy or especially Price is right. I don't know why,
but you know, Price is right on the background. I'm
in there eating lunch or doing work or whatnot, and

(01:00:56):
she's yelling at the TV screen. You idiot is a
thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
And I the other night I was going Tom Brokell,
Tom Broke, Call, Tom Broke Call.

Speaker 14 (01:01:11):
Oh, I'm gonna be checking myself for years over that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I mean, when you when you heard did you go damn?

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
I knew that.

Speaker 14 (01:01:20):
Yeah, it was definitely. I mean I'm pretty close with
Dan Rather, but yeah, that was just the person that
came to mind. And it just happens for class like
thirty seconds.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
Right Well, I would, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
I would think that your mind is going ninety thousand
different directions at a moment like that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
Right.

Speaker 12 (01:01:39):
Well.

Speaker 14 (01:01:39):
The first thing I thought was, this isn't a celebrity
author question. That was a category right?

Speaker 5 (01:01:46):
Oh right? Right? So you're you're think is going to
be like Jackie Nicholson.

Speaker 14 (01:01:53):
Yeah, I lost to listen on my drives in to
work to audio books of celebrity memoirs. I feel like
you get so much more when you hear them.

Speaker 22 (01:02:01):
Read the unwords right right.

Speaker 14 (01:02:03):
So that's why I expected.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
Did you have any how many people were in the
studio audience?

Speaker 14 (01:02:10):
Generally, I would say probably thirty to forty people?

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
Okay, did you have anyone there as your special guests?

Speaker 14 (01:02:20):
My brother thankfully, Yeah, he was. Oh yeah. I told
him as soon as I come out on stage, raise
your hands. I know where you're at.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
Nice were you were you? Oh? Go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 14 (01:02:33):
I was just gonna say it was so nice to
be able to touch base with him on Sunday before
it aired, to make sure like, hey, I'm not gonna
look stupid, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
See, that's the I would hate to go on that
show and just sit there and look like a complete
dummy because I would dummy up and my mind would
go vacant. And the fact that Chuquin think at all,
kudos to you, my friend.

Speaker 14 (01:02:56):
Yeah, I wanted sports, and I'm I'm so thankful I
got a sports category because that's what I was aiming for.
And the funniest thing is I get off stage and
his first thing is, I can't believe you didn't know
who Vin Scully was like I did. I just didn't
buzz in in time because there's tons of questions I knew,

(01:03:17):
but the competitiveness took over and as soon as I
got the first one right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Of his game on yeah cool, nice, well we got
it handed to you. Because I mean, I'm not lying, Amanda.
If I was in a situation like that, I would
totally freeze up. And the fact that you you competed
and you were you were there and capable of winning,
not me. I would have been zeroed across from jump.

Speaker 14 (01:03:45):
I appreciate that. What was the question I answered? I
remember sitting there doing the math in my head, like
I need to get this right. So it's on a runaway.

Speaker 6 (01:03:54):
Game and no.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
Typically again, I don't know if they say at the
end of Jeopardy by they say, oh, we have some
nice party gifts for you. Did you get those? And
if so, what were they?

Speaker 14 (01:04:05):
So they gave us all a Jeopardy hat and a
tote bag and a few odds and ends. But second
place gets three thousand and third place gets two thousand.
Nice because they didn't pay for anything in terms of
fight or anything exactly. Well so not completely, but I

(01:04:28):
played to win I wanted to come back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Well, Amanda, let me ask you this before we let
you go. Are you allowed to reapply? Can you go
back and try again sometime?

Speaker 14 (01:04:41):
I don't think so, unfortunately, unless they call me, which
I would love to go back. And a heartbeat, I
will say for the Cincinnati fans during the rehearsal, Jimmy
from the Cuck crew, who used to do all those
clues around the world, is now the stage manager. And
he pretended to be Ken Jennings and he said, Hey,

(01:05:01):
ask me a question. And I asked him, what's your
favorite clue crew? And he said when I went to
the Steelers training camp, and he was taken aback when
I responded, was that pre or post Roethlisberger?

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
You love?

Speaker 14 (01:05:12):
Talk about it? And he goes, why would you say that?
Some Bengals fan for the rest of the day. But
see Jimmy, I say, who day? And thankfully it was
before the Minnesota game.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
But well, really fun again, congratulations and thanks for talking
to us. We appreciate it. Thank you, Amanda Tolki. She
worked for the Carl Lewis Law practice and that and
I'm a kidding, Jason. I mean, I consider and talking

(01:05:46):
to this Michael, all the you know, all day long,
but standing in front of cameras with a bunch of
people watching me trying to do trivia. I could sit
in a bar and drink beers and do dumb trivia
with a couple of my buddies. But standing up there
with that kind of pressure, I.

Speaker 5 (01:06:03):
Would fold dude right and then and then happened to
the answer and then on. You got to be so
quick to do it. I mean, it's that's an intense.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Well's like I said, that's what I always heard that
you got to the You obviously have to be quick
of the mind. Would you have to be that clicker thing?

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
You think about it? I mean we didn't ask her,
but I bet this is probably only twenty two to
twenty three minutes worth of a of a show. It's
a recording. See you think about that, The intensity of
that in twenty two minutes. Yep. Yeah, good job Amanda
with the plays to win and you know what, I
love that. I love that and she almost did with that.
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a good point. WILLI see like he would have been
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guy he knows his current events and history, and he's
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avid reader. I don't know if he plays bar trivia.
I can't see Willie hopping around playing bar trivia. But
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That guy is a avid, avid reader and uh, just
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Here's where Willy would go down pop culture. Pop culture, yeah,
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(01:09:53):
Taylor Swift and he knows his Tate. Well, that's for
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Speaker 5 (01:10:04):
Was the one he was on what was he he
was on something? He just harped on something for like
two weeks. It was a pop culture thing. It was
it Tate, It was something about Tate. It might have
been Tata and Travis. I think I might have been it.
There was.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Well, he's still stuck on Belichick and his that's the one, Yes,
is stuck on that five year old girlfriend.

Speaker 5 (01:10:27):
Yes, that's the one I'm thinking about. He did. He
did harp on Tata and Travis for a while, but
not nearly as much as he has on the Belichick thing. Yeah,
Jordan's Jordan's bill. Well, that's you're right. I think I
think Willy. I think movies would take Willy out. Movies
and music. He wouldn't know which is where you would
come in.

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Well, if if we could be teams, I would know
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Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
Forget about it. But there was there was something. It
was on the other of the day.

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I forget who was was Joe Dieters and so Dieters.
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(01:11:26):
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right here who's calling in for vacation. By the way,
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very handsome man. William H. William Jefferson Cunningham is with us,

(01:18:57):
being brought to you by the fine folks at Joseph
A motive and Willie, let's talk about We just talked
to Amanda Tolki, who was on Jeopardy the other night. Now,
Jason and I were talking about the fact that you
seem like you would be a fine contestant for Jeopardy.
Did you ever consider it?

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
You know, when Jennings was kicking ass like mister asked
for like forty thousand games in a row. I knew
the tu or tree questions he did not know the
answer to. And so I want to somehow. I'm going
to get involved in Jeopardy it somehow because I know
a little bit about everything a lot about nothing. And
that's exactly what you need if you're on Jeopardy, would
you agree a lot just general knowledge about different arts

(01:19:40):
and sciences and factual information and Shakespearean plays and world
capitals and geomorphology and geology and those issues I've dealt
with my whole life. So I'm going to try to
get on. She did a pretty good job, but let's
face it, the pressure is on anybody to make a
five foot putt when it doesn't matter. You got to
make the putt when it does matter. And Ken Jennings

(01:20:01):
is the king of all time.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
When the money is on the line, you got to
sink that putt. Son.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
Now, when you've seen me at Western Hill, think a
putter or two.

Speaker 20 (01:20:09):
For all of the marbles.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Absolutely uh with the bright lights on. And I and
I remember choking one time when you were going to
win like a thousand dollars and make this and I
win a thousand, and I'm like, wow, I'm not going
to say through the game.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
Jason was worse than that. He hit a ten foot
putt and I said, all you got to do is
two putts and we win.

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
Yeah, he had.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
The first putt was five feet and the second putt
was four feet. The ball never got to the hole
after two times, never got there.

Speaker 5 (01:20:42):
Well, that's that's sorry. Now, Willie. Jason and I were talking.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
I think your your downfall might be unless it's about
Bill Belichick and his young girlfriend, it might be your weakness.
Your downfall might be pop culture in that type of thing.
Would you agree with that?

Speaker 21 (01:21:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
I watch Inside a Dition. I'm pretty up on RadarOnline
dot com. TMZ's one of the websites I check in
every day. I know about Jordan Hudson. I do Jordan
Hudson and the wedding plans. She told her girlfriend she
wants to start a family with Bill Belichick, and about
three more weeks from now, they're gonna have a lot
of time to hook up. I think he's going to
be fired at some point where he's gonna say, what

(01:21:25):
the hell I can't do it then they have lots
of free time.

Speaker 5 (01:21:31):
Bill thought of Bill Belichick starting a family at age
seventy two.

Speaker 4 (01:21:37):
I mean, come on, now, well, she wants a family.
She's only like twenty four, and she's in her prime,
shall we say, and she wants children. And right now
she has about eight to ten million dollars of property
transferred from Belichick to her name. She has three or
four different LLCs where she's the majority share owner and

(01:21:57):
Bill Belichick is supposed to provide content. And the HBO
thing that was canceled because things are growing so bad.
North Carolina officials said, we don't want any more cameras
inside this locker. We got enough problems winning on the
field against PCU and against California. The Golden Bear stink,
and so they canceled that. But Jason, you're in sports

(01:22:19):
and so many other things. Have you seen an icon
fall from heights to depths in such a quick fashion?
That would be impossible for Bill Parcells or for Don Shula,
impossible for that to happen, But it's happened to Belichick.
Why is he doing this? What's he getting out of
this relationship?

Speaker 5 (01:22:39):
I've wondered this, I've wondered a lot about this because
I listened to your show every day and that's all
you talk about, and so it's made me ponder it
quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
And I.

Speaker 5 (01:22:50):
I mean, I guess the one thought I have I
probably can't share on air, but that would be my
only thought on I otherwise, like, what is what are
you doing? What I talk about?

Speaker 9 (01:23:03):
Well?

Speaker 20 (01:23:04):
Right, what relationship?

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
William?

Speaker 12 (01:23:07):
You and I?

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
You and I have talked about it off the year,
and Rocky and I have as well. It's like, you know,
your legacy was secure. You're going to go down, if
if not the greatest, certainly top five greatest football coaches
of all time. And now all people are going to
talk about is remember that old guy that hooked up

(01:23:29):
with the twenty four year old that does.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
The unc Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Willie.

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
Program fifty million? And can you imagine Vince Lombardi or
Don Shula or I don't know any of the Brown
Paul Brown at the Paul Brown in his prime, the
father of football at least in Ohio, Ohio State Cleveland
Brown since night Bangles. Can you mention Paul Brown when

(01:23:57):
he was like seventy five years old hooking up with
a twenty five year old and talk about having children.

Speaker 5 (01:24:04):
I mean what I mean think about those to me?

Speaker 4 (01:24:06):
I'm good, I'm plumbing spot. I don't know where to
turn for answers. I want answers, and I don't see any.
I don't see answers to any of this because by
the time you're in your seventies, Shelly said, the all
the in and the out, it is not that important anymore.
So what's he getting out of it?

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
Well, I mean you mentioned those guys, and you think
that you think about those guys. Those guys are iconic
as well, not just because of their football success, but
you thought of them as like kind of men, you know,
like in every sense of the world. You know, some
of them were you know, Paul Brown was a gentleman,
but you thought of them as like, you know, gentlemen
and men and who were revered and like you throw

(01:24:48):
this on her like Belichick, I think probably would have
thought that of him too, right until this all happened, right,
kind of a stick of the mud personality wise, but
like you're like from just as football comm spence alone,
You're like, cool, there's a man, there's an iconic right there.
Figure in our football, American football history. And now you

(01:25:11):
know when you had.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Nick Saban getting together, Nick Saban getting to the other,
Bill Belichick, you're the greatest college football coach of all time.
I think it's Nick Saban between LSU and Alabama, whether
it comes back or not, the greatest. And then you
got Bill Belichick. They did things together, they went to
events together. You said, this is the two greatest coaches
of all time, with all due respect to Vince Lombardi

(01:25:34):
and Paul Brown. They well, Paul Brown did win something
in the range of ten American Football League championships with
Auto Graham, but that wasn't when football was football. It's
not the same today when football flourished. I'm thinking Nick
Saban the greatest of all time, and it's real Belichick.
I can't conceive of Nick Saban doing any of this stuff.

(01:25:57):
I can't conceive of that happening. Nick say, I don't
think he's married to a nice girl from West Virginia.

Speaker 5 (01:26:03):
And Belichick was married to an oil heiress.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
From a hess Oil that was his fiance girlfriend for
ten years, a wonderful woman twenty five years younger. But
what the hell, that's almost the same generation in one
or two, but not three generations, and to ruin your
legacy on something like this, Yeah, I don't get it.
Old enough to be his daughter, hell's old enough to
be his great granddaughter? How the hell does that happen?

Speaker 5 (01:26:29):
That's what gets me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
And I go back to what I said before of
being just totally tearing down your legacy over something like this.
I mean, what old guy doesn't want the attention of
a beautiful young woman. But at the same time, you
gotta look at yourself in a mirror and go, why, gee,
I wonder why she likes me. It's pretty freaking obvious, dude,

(01:26:54):
And I wonder why he likes her?

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:26:57):
A little quick story. I don't know if justice showed
Eaters once is told. I'll tell the story about two
weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
To go ahead, because I gave the like the five
second version of it. I said, I never got it straight.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
But do tell.

Speaker 4 (01:27:14):
He's at a wedding with Tanyo O'Rourke. It was a
high end affair. One of Joe Dieters's relatives, cousin, nephew
whatever's getting married, and the bride was a good friend
of Jordan Hudson. And I said, you got to be
kidding me that the bride was age appropriate, like in
her twenties. And this is one of Joe Dieters's distant relatives.

(01:27:34):
But Tanya wanted to ow and okay, well we'll drive
to North Carolina and then walks Jordan Hudson to the
wedding and they got pictures and them together with Jordan
Hudson and Justice Shows said you could not find a nicer,
kinder person than Jordan justin Now Belichick wasn't there. It
was on a weekend. He was getting beat I think
by California the Golden Bears. That it was like two

(01:27:56):
weekends ago. But he said she was wonderful and friendly
to pictures with everyone. Jordan Hudson was the star of
the wedding and she wasn't the bride, and he couldn't
speak more highly of her. How about that one? Yeah,
I got pictures of Joe Dieters with Jordan Hudson.

Speaker 5 (01:28:12):
And what's gotten into the old tough prosecutor, you know
he's gotten It's got a little softer, a little a
little star struck, a little starstruck, right so bad he and.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
Joe wanted to get pictures with Jordan Hudson. Well, I would, Eddie,
if you were in outing with her, wouldn't you get
pictures with her?

Speaker 22 (01:28:30):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:28:30):
Absolutely I would, But.

Speaker 12 (01:28:33):
Absolutely so he did.

Speaker 5 (01:28:34):
You're you're saying that Joe has no pictures of him
with her.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
I say, well, he didn't want to show him to me.
But he said he's he didn't wanted.

Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
To get out, you know, to me, it's getting kidding me.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
It's on my ext account. And he said she couldn't
have been a nicer person, couldn't. I say, well, I'd
be nice too, think.

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
You're very attractive to though.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
Well, you know, if I was a twenty five year
old time multi millionaire, i'd be a pretty nice person too.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
He's a wonderful person. But I'm thinking this is not
going to end well at some point either. Bill Belichick's children,
who by the way, in their forties and fifties. He's
got two of them, and I think he has grandchildren
are going to say, Dad, what the hell are you
thinking about? What are you doing here?

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:29:21):
I would assume they'd probably already have done that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Well with that, you know, we will let you go
get back to your golf game or get back to
your your early afternoon like dinner thing you're probably doing sitting.

Speaker 4 (01:29:39):
I'm at my double wide near near Naples, My.

Speaker 21 (01:29:42):
Double wide, all right, Naples, fun, best of the judge,
Thank you always, Yeah, there is it's yeah, just kills me.

Speaker 5 (01:29:55):
But yeah, and he.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
See, here's the deal. I've known Joe Dieters for a
long time, yes, and basically I think maybe longer than
I have Willie. But if you and and he's smart
enough to know, and I know he's smart enough to
know that if he gave him pictures Willie, pictures of
him with Jordan Hudson, he would never hear the end
of now.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
Never.

Speaker 5 (01:30:24):
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Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
All right, back here on the Eddie and Rocky Show
a little while longer rockout today. Jason Williams from the
Inquire sincinn AA dot com is with me. But before
we get on out of here, let's talk about this
government short shutdown in week three now, and Ben Siegel,
the ABC News to a Deputy Political director, is with us. So, Ben,

(01:32:53):
are we seeing any movement on this stuff at all?

Speaker 22 (01:32:58):
We're seeing a lot of movements, lot of motion towards
resolving the government shutdown. We're seeing Republicans senators at the
White House today with President Trump. They seem pretty dug in.
They say this is Democrats that have to come to
the table. Democrats are seem pretty satisfied with what's happening.
They're encouraged by these protests over the weekend, these anti

(01:33:19):
Trump protests, and say that they think public opinion is
on their side. So both sides are still really dug in.
As we approach a lot of interesting dates on the
calendar where you could see a deal coming together, but
again we're still a ways off from that.

Speaker 5 (01:33:33):
You'll kind of take off some of those dates for
us if you would.

Speaker 22 (01:33:37):
Well, if you go back to the beginning, Democrats launched
this whole fight over government funding because they wanted to
protect subsidies for Obamacare for healthcare plans purchased on these
marketplaces in the states. Well, open enrollment to sign up
those for those plans starts on November first, so in
many places now it's too late for those subsidies to

(01:33:58):
take effect. They're going to expire at the end of
this you're not carry into next year, so the sticker
shock for health insurance is already going to start hitting Americans.
Democrats believe that voters will punish Republicans and blame them
for this increase, So in a way, the political incentives
have disappeared a bit after November first, So that's the

(01:34:18):
first date. The second date is November twenty first. That's
important because the deal on the table right now for
Congress is a short term stop gap bill to fund
the government for seven weeks. The seven weeks ends on
November twenty first, so once we get past that date,
Speaker Mike Johnson is going to have to bring Republicans
back to Washington at some point in order to pass

(01:34:40):
something because the deal on the table will no longer
be valid. And then the third date is one we
circle every year on all of our calendars, which is
Thanksgiving and all the holiday travel that comes with that.
We're seeing some strain already by air traffic controllers having
to work without pay, and that is a very critical
time of the year, and neither party wants to be
holding the political hot potato when more air traffic controllers

(01:35:02):
fall and sick because of family issues in this very
important stretch of the year as they're forced to work
without pay. So those are just three dates in November
to keep an eye on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
And Ben, what about what you're talking about the air controllers?
How about the TSA guys? Is that is that come
into play?

Speaker 22 (01:35:20):
It's the same thing. They're all being forced to work
without pay right now as possible. That Trump administration is
trying to, you know, find ways to pay people by
moving money around, take it from one pot and put
it in the other pot. But that's just the band
aid of you know, questionable legality. That's not a long
term fix. That doesn't solve the shutdown. So it may

(01:35:41):
stop the fighting for a little while, but you know,
big picture, this is is a battle that's still going on,
and neither side appears to be willing to come to
the table.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
All right, Well, Ben, all we can do is kick
back and watch these guys do nothing. Really appreciates.

Speaker 5 (01:35:56):
I had better news for you, I know. Oh way,
I sotas everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:36:01):
Ben, thanks so much, thanks, and yeah, Ben sig good
good stuff the shutdown. As we talked to Steve Cotton earlier,
this is fun stuff, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:16):
But sure it's about to get real, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
Well apparently, but Jason, other news, yes, Oh we have
other other fish to fry or other wings to fryop.
This happened in uh In, Texas. According to court papers
filed just the other day, a Travis County jail official

(01:36:39):
was monitoring an inmate's phone calls on an unrelated incident.
He must have been trying to get some drug, smog
at in or something when the man told a relative
that quote a correct corrections officer had provided him with
chicken wings after he sent the officer money on a
cash app.

Speaker 19 (01:36:58):
So, so.

Speaker 5 (01:37:01):
A cop is taking money under the table to get
to smuggle this guy's some wing. That's what the phone
calls were him smuggling wings. Yeah, you know what not
the guy in joy he was also trying to get
some crack or so.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
But they all through that they discovered that he was
also having this a cop smuggle him some wings.

Speaker 5 (01:37:23):
Someone say, chicken wings are like crack, oh big time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:27):
Specifically, the inmates said that the officer had agreed to
supply him with Hobin yiro mango chicken wings from wingstop
and return for fifty dollars. My man was craving some wings.

Speaker 5 (01:37:41):
Yes, he was fifty dollars. Hopefully he got a lot
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
A subsequent review of jail surveillance video showed a food
delivery arriving at the Travis County Correctional Complex in suburban Austin.
After the paperbag was run through an X ray scanner.
Amos Uh not away twenty five picks up the bag
and eats some of the wings himself. And this is
a non away guy who was just hired last year

(01:38:08):
by the police department. Takes several wings from the bag,
places them on paper towels, and hands them to an inmate,
and the inmate walks away with the chicken wings and
eats them. These guys, these guys are not master criminals. Bro,
These aren't the guys that rob the louver.

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
Would you imagine being the door dash or delivery person
rolling up? Oh yeah, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
The corps finals don't identify the game made Blah blah blah. Investigator.
I've attained a search warrant for a cash app added
to determine the extent of nonaways involvement in bringing in
contraband and to assist and identify other incidents. He was
busted just the other day on a misdemeanor contraband charge,
citing Texas Penal Code thirty eight point one one four

(01:38:55):
and an arrest. Avid David notes that quote, chicken wings
are not provided for or authorized to be provided to inmates.
So now you know, if you go to the joint,
ain't allowed no chicken wings.

Speaker 5 (01:39:07):
Let's hope for the safety of everyone in that prison,
that's the only thing that he has smuggled in his
chicken wings.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
Well, see, if you're gonna get busted for something, don't
you want to You know that's not gonna look good
for you as far as in the inmate population.

Speaker 5 (01:39:27):
No, it's not. Hey man, I got some weed. Oh yeah,
I got a bottle of.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
You know, rum, I got some wings from Wingstop Abernio Mango.
What that's They're just gonna take you out beach up
on principle, at.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
Least at least you'll have a little bit of have
a little bit of street cred and get the absolute
hottest wings you can get, Bring the hottest wings you
can bring in there. But I that's when you get
a craven for wings man. Apparently you can't. You'll go
to you'll go to great lengths to get him, and

(01:40:08):
you're in the confident agreed to do it for you.
Oh yeah, yeah. With that thought, in mind, we had
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