Eddie & Jason -- 10/28/25

Eddie and Jason talk with Bill Dendy, Tanya O'Rourke, Dave Hatter, James Rapien, Jerry Joyner, Alex Stone, and more on 700 WLW!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Single day, we hear about tariffs, we hear about trade wars,
we hear about trade deals. And the latest big one
was the deal with China. And apparently a deal has
been made as far as again and I follow this
stuff as far as I can discern, there is a
deal with China.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I don't know, but this is certainly the biggest one
when you think about how much stuff we get.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
From China and how much they get from us, how
much they get from us. That's right. Let's talk to
our financial guy about it. He is one of our
most popular guests. He is Bill Dundy as CPA money Manager,
and he speaks to us on these on these matters
all the time. Bill, welcome back.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hey, it's great to be with you. And it's kind
of funny.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
A few years ago, nobody but the biggest nerds we're
talking about tariffs and duties and trade wars. But now
we're all like daily conversations like the I don't know,
it's like football, who's on top.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Who's got the opportunities in the future.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
It's kind of interesting that China is one of those
that has been most difficult to deal with, partly because
we deal with them so much already. It's kind of
like a family relationship. Those are sometimes the most challenging
when you have a lot of interaction with each other.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
It makes it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
More difficult to say I wanted you to change your
behaviors in this way or that way. And China has
pushed hard back on the US, and the US said, okay, okay,
we're going to reconsider no one hundred percent tariffs, but.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
We'll continue where we are today. And that looks like
a win for everybody.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
And I don't know as to say, it's a lot
like families that are squabbling because you and your brother
can get upset with each other, and y'all might get
into a pushing match, but you don't want to You
don't want to pull out the guns or anything. I mean,
I just want to work it out somehow. And that's
kind of what's been happening with Trump and she As

(01:58):
we've been going through the last few months together.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Bill Dendy's our guest, and Bill well As you just
heard us talking. What is this, What does this entail
with China? This is this so called deal? What's going
on here?

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Well, China did not like us any extra tariffs, and
of course they wouldn't, and we had a lot of
reasons early on for the tariffs. The last round has
been fentanyl. Precursor elements come out of China. So for
all the phenohn's been produced, China is like the very

(02:36):
earliest source, and that they were a little bit more
controlling on who they send that out to, we might
be able to curb the fentanyl problem.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
And so that that's been the latest.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
But prior to that, it was intellectual property, that they
didn't enforce some of the intellectual property of balls as
vigorously as we wanted, and then the labor conditions not
to world standards and things that nature that have come
up in the past. It's interesting that we depend on

(03:06):
China for a lot of things. They they need us
to buy their goods, We need them to buy our
bonds for our loans for our government debt. And now
we just found out we need them real bad for
these rare earth minerals that are used in things like
lasers and industrial magnets and all sorts of things. And

(03:26):
if they turn off that supply, well, well that really
is kind of the trump card, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, right, and those earth minerals or what some are
used in a lot of technology stuff like what TVs
and iPhones and what.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
You got it almost everything we depend on every day,
from our iPhones to our televisions, to our laser guided systems,
to our defense instruments that are used by a military,
to our industrial magnets that pick up the big car
magnets that pick up that. Those are rare earth minerals

(04:01):
that are using those magnets as well. So they had
both the heavy and the light where earth minerals that
again only the nerdy geologists used to talk about. But
if you cut off the supply of ninety percent coming out,
well that makes everyone slow down. And we had manufacturing
have to slow down when China tightened up the reins
a few months ago. And so when they say we're

(04:22):
going to go if you terrify us one hundred percent,
we're just nowhere Earth for you, nowhere Earth for you,
and that's gonna.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Be really bad.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Well, no good, that's gonna be bad for them too.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
So it's one of those deals that they don't really
want to do it, but they do have this powerful position.
So I think it's one of those things where you
tell your brother. Hey, if you don't back off, I'm
going to hit you right between the eyes. And you're like, ah,
he is bigger than they. He could hurt me, but
he doesn't want to hurt me. He we're gonna work
this out, but he could and you don't want to
then have to hurt him back. And so that's where

(04:55):
I think both parties finally got to and they're like, Okay,
we don't have to do the hun tariffs. If you're
quit trying to sneak your stuff in around the back door, Uh,
we can leave it alone. It will be about forty
percent like a lot of other places. And I think
that's where it's going to probably end up for the
next few months, allowing the room for both sides to
have a little victory.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well, Bill, along those lines, are you're talking about, you know,
the iPhones and TVs, things that you know we we
use or uh, you know every day everyday Americans use
and you know, so much of our clothes things we
buy on Amazon. I mean I bought a few shirts
on Amazon last week and you know, both made in China.
Given that on you know that that everyday types of

(05:40):
things that you know, not necessarily we're buying the stuff
every day, but things that we use every day, what
are we looking at in terms of how much the
cost of those things are going to go up?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Generally well.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Embedded there, well, they're embedded in so many of our items,
but it's a small piece of the overall components of
it that we probably won't see our electrons going up
forty percent, but we probably will see according to economists
who are doing the work, ten to fifteen percent increases
across the board. And it's not comfortable, but I think

(06:17):
we've had about with inflation, and if we see another
five to ten percent on the things we love, we
won't like it, but we can survive that.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
We couldn't survive not having them.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Or have them double or triple re costs. And I
think that's kind of where we're going to end up
on this. And what's interesting is just the threat of
no suit for you, no rare minerals for you. Well,
the US and Australia said, hey, we have to be able.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
To make our own.

Speaker 6 (06:42):
We can.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
We don't have to be dependent on the forever. We
just have to be dependent on for right now. And
it takes a while.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
To get this stuff set up, so it's.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Actually causing more investment and things that might as should
have been started a few years ago anyway, So there
may be some positives in this area and more investment
going into an area that was costalgian and it didn't
make sense if you could get them out of China
for such a low cost. But if it won't be

(07:11):
coming out of China for whatever the reason, then it
might make sense for new injury. The barriers to entry, well,
they're still there, but if the costs go up so much,
those barriers become less daunting. So we're starting to see
even talk just in one week about new investments in

(07:32):
these areas so that we don't have our dependency and
kind of like we've lost our dependency on foreign oil
where they say the US now produces more oil than Russia,
more oil than Saudi Arabia. The US has gone from
not producing as much as we need to producing more

(07:53):
than the rest of the world.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
That gives us lower.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Pricing, but more importantly, more control pricing, less volatility going forward.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
And so what we might see is we start strategically.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Thinking about eliminating that leverage from the from our trading
partners going forward. Yet a lot of economis say that's
really not efficient. You should let the lowest cost producer
produce it and let the US do what they do well, which.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Is ingenuity and creation, and that everyone.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Should give up these trade barriers like tariffs, but have
free trade. And so there are a number of economists
who are not happy with the way things are going,
but others who will then say, we never really had
free trade. The US was not tariffing other countries, but
they were protecting their industries and they had bearers to

(08:47):
entry that we had to compete against. And by offering
terariffs the other direction, it makes it a more level
playing field and creates income for our government. But it's
really the consumer that pays that extra income for the government.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
So it's kind of like a I don't know, a
new kind of.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Tax yep, big time. Bill Dendi's our guest, and Bill,
let me ask you that that with that in mind,
here the last two months of the year. Put your
financial advisor hat on here for a second. How do
you see the markets reacting to all this rigorole that
has been going on with the tariffs and the taxes
and this and that and the other.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
You know, it's kind of interesting. The market tends to
be a leading economic indicator. They'd like to get ahead,
Like when things are sad, they're already going up, and
when things are.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
And when things are good, they already start the way down.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
But there are a lot of things in this week
that could happen that would be positive for the market.
And the market is at his all time highs because
they're already anticipating good things happening. And those good things
include the FED meeting and they say they're going to
lower interest rates.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
The expectation is they're going to lower interest rates a
core of a point.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
If they come out and they lower rates by a
half a point, that would be so positive that the
market would probably have a little extra bonus reaction. We
have a number of high tech companies releasing earnings tomorrow
and the next day, and these earnings reports that they
come out good, that would be positive for the overall
market and can boost it up. And it's China deal.

(10:22):
If it comes out of that, yes, we have reached
an agreement. And even though some things are going to
cost more, we know what that more is going to be,
and all this uncertainty will be eliminated for a while.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
That would be very positive.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
And so you have a few things that could certainly
make the market happier and we could see an increase.
But keep in mind the market has already baked in
a lot of these things, so if any of those
things does not go the way the market wanted, it
could be a negative.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
So what did I say. I said it could go
up or it could go.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
Down if it changes it all And I know that's
not much help.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's kind of the market.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, there are good reasons for seeing the market near
all time highs, and there are good reasons it's climbed
this wall of worry. The news has always sounded bad
that the markets continued to move up. We've had one
of the best bull markets Innario ever and at the
same time we've got a lot of news stories that
are concerning.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
But as one thing gets resolved after.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Another, is if Hamas and Israel really you know, at
least of the hostage positive market loves that if we
start having peace breaking out all over the world and
we start having earnings reports coming strong and we have
lower interest rates, that mean that consumers can consume more
and companies can expand more. All those things are positive,

(11:45):
but keep in mind there is a little shadow out
there as the unemployment numbers seem to indicate that we're
having and one of the reasons the Fed may lower
interest rates a little more than a quarter point is
that the unemployment numbers are starting to crop back up,
and the Fed wants to keep Americans fully employed as possible.

(12:07):
But that's kind of a negative out there. If people
aren't working and they don't have the money to coup,
to consume, and to care for themselves, that can be
a negative and a long term re sessions rap. So
those are the things that.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Are in play.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Which way they're going to work out, probably positive on
the short term, could be very positive we get any
surprises on any of those three items, but a lot
of good it's already be baked into the market, all right.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Without Bill Dundy, we will let you go, buddy. It
is always our pleasure.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
God bless you. Always good talking to you.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Thanks care Bill Dundy. He's financial strategists. You can find
more about him at Raymond James dot com and I
love our expert analysis there with it could go up
or it could go down. Huh. That's how that works. Huh.
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but we're going to tire up about it. We're going
to be talking about Halloween.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
She gets into Halloween. I remember we've had her on
like Halloween and Christmas. Big yeah, just some good story.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Well and Thanksgiving she starts. I remember last year she
started making food. I'm not kidding you if you remember this.
She started making food for that Thursday on Saturday and
made stuff all week and long. Now, look at my house,

(15:50):
and I think she has you know, family over. We
have us, Me and Deb and the boys. So there's
only four of us. So I make a turk, We
have the potatoes and the beans and blah blah blah,
get a pumpkinbine and all that stuff. But there's not
four days of prep involved in it other than on
the turkey out.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Pretty much that at Tany's house, it's a it's a
week long, oh long ordeal.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's Giving gra and she just goes for it.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I don't remember talking much about Thanksgiving, but she seemed
I want to talk to her about her her dynamic
with her husband, because it seems like she would be
way into it. But I can't see her her husband,
who I know very well, do being all that wound up.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
About it, but ah no, I could see him, but
we were super excited. The energy, oh the energy level three. Yes,
I want to know what he drew. Is he dressed
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Little hands up like this would still be back with
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And that means we talked of this person right here
Rise for the Queen, Tanyo roorg WCPO nine News. Tanya

(22:51):
here it is. Jason and I were just talking about you.
We weren't talking about you behind the back. We were
talking about it here on this scene. Now we were
talking about all this fifty thousand flame thrower. Oh yeah,
but no, we were talking about the fact that you
tend to be really holiday gung ho. Shall we say right?

Speaker 10 (23:11):
Yes, that is true.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
No, I don't remember. Are you crazy big about Halloween?
Because I was we were talking about. I remember you
talking last year that you started cooking for Thanksgiving on Saturday.

Speaker 10 (23:26):
Before that is that's a fact, Jack.

Speaker 18 (23:29):
However, I will tell you Halloween is my least they
not least favorite holiday.

Speaker 10 (23:36):
I like Halloween. I like it, fine, I don't like
scary movies.

Speaker 18 (23:39):
I don't like being scared, so I'm annoyed that every
time I turn on the TV, only movies offered are
like stream and It and all that Stuff'm like, come on,
but but I did decorate Prollaween. It's more like decorating
for fall. But yeah, like I mean, and I'm really excited.
I love seeing the kids come. We get a ton
of kids.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I remember we've been on before when you've talked about this.

Speaker 18 (24:02):
Yeah, my gosh, yeah, you should see that we had
three giant bowls, biggest bowls. I own three giant bowls
filled with candy already, and which is really bad for
my waistline right now, because I walk by them multiple
times in the day and find myself sneaking twizzlers. And
then oh, there's a recy cup. Wait, hold on a butterfinger.

Speaker 10 (24:22):
You know it's not good.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
That little bite sized breezy cup ain't gonna kill anything.
Oh and there's a little baby, baby baby ruth boom.

Speaker 18 (24:30):
That's right, like pops in your mouth, goes right in.
And then I just had a cookie at work. That's
some very nice wife of an employee makes cookies.

Speaker 10 (24:39):
For us every day, I'm not kidding you.

Speaker 18 (24:40):
And today she made cookies with like every Halloween candy,
like chocolate candy could think of Eminem's Snickers or whatever.
And she cuts them up and she puts them in
one can't one cookie and it was divine.

Speaker 10 (24:54):
And I'm like, why am I eating this? Why am
I eating this?

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Oh? My goodness, that gave me diabetes.

Speaker 10 (25:01):
Oh trust me. I have a head rush like you
can't believe right now.

Speaker 18 (25:04):
I mean, my gosh, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
So yeah, don't you dress up? Do you dress up?
And Eddie and I both are wondering does your husband
dress up?

Speaker 10 (25:15):
I have gotten him dressed up one time.

Speaker 19 (25:18):
I'll do tell yeah, go to a c We had
to go to a Halloween party, and so it was
as lame as you can possibly imagine.

Speaker 18 (25:30):
But I always kided with my kids that I was
Mary Poppins growing up, like practically perfect emphasis on the practically.
So I was Mary Poppins and he was a Chimney sweep.
It was kind of cute, right, very cute. I have
photo I have photographic evidence that he's banned me from
giving anyone but we yes. But I don't dress up

(25:52):
a lot, although for work, like I have a really
cute black skirt that looks like a cobweb and like
witches shoes, and then like socks that I can wear
their like orange and black striped so they look like,
you know, the witches socks.

Speaker 10 (26:07):
So I'll probably wear that to work on Friday. I'm
working the eleven.

Speaker 18 (26:09):
I'm working late that night because my co anchor has
little kids. He wants to make sure that he sees
them trigger treat and my kids are like, you know, old,
so so yeah, I'll probably wear something like that on
Friday with like a black turtleneck and call it a day.
But I'm not like going to dress up on camera
something what if something.

Speaker 10 (26:28):
Terrible happens and I can't look weird.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Do you have you ever dressed up one camera before
over your career during the.

Speaker 18 (26:36):
Well, I've dressed so so the really nice folks at
the Bengals have a couple of times allowed me, and
I'm sure they would if I did it again.

Speaker 10 (26:43):
I thought about doing this.

Speaker 18 (26:46):
Yeah, I dressed up as Joe Burrow and so they
gave me his uniform, which was really cool, like even like, okay,
he wears his socks like he wears two different socks,
one pulled up, one push down.

Speaker 10 (26:56):
So you have to wear them like that. I'm like okay.
And I walked around downtown like an idiot, like talking to.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Man on the on the job, like man on the street,
interviews and stuff.

Speaker 10 (27:07):
I went and did interviews. Yeah, and my good Joe Burrow.

Speaker 18 (27:10):
I mean, I look so dumb, so dumb, but it's
fun and it's comfortable.

Speaker 20 (27:14):
So no.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Tell you when you're anchoring on Friday. You got to
talk to my wife. She can loan you a pair
of her ear rings she got a couple of years ago.
At Findley Market there was a lady. But you know
they have the little vendors they're selling different craft craft
jewelry and stuff. And this lady had Halloween ear rings.
So she has a pair of ear rings that are guillotines,

(27:39):
Oh my god, and a pair of ear rings that
on each year she has the twins from the shining
Oh my gosh, that's creepy.

Speaker 10 (27:50):
Are they the ones who said red rum red rum?

Speaker 1 (27:52):
They're the ones that stand in the commentary with us
Daddy's creepy where we saw those, I was like, you
gotta get those.

Speaker 10 (28:05):
Yeah. I mean, who's whose wardrobe is incomplete? About that?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Correct?

Speaker 10 (28:09):
So yeah, I don't think.

Speaker 18 (28:11):
See that's the thing though, my job is not like
fun in that way, Like I can't wear super fun things. Yeah,
we're having a bangle special. I can be an all
orange and stuff, but goodness, gracious, could you imagine, like,
you know, we have a government shutdown and I'm got
this guillotine.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Marya, you have wear giant massive car wreck on I
seventy five? Yeah?

Speaker 18 (28:37):
Yeah, So so I'll keep like maybe my shoes and
my skirt will be something funny super pictures if I
do it.

Speaker 10 (28:44):
Will you guys dress up? I mean, let's not all
late this on me? Do you guys? Have fun with
this holiday.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
I haven't dressed up in years, but I used to
get into it a little bit when I was a
much smaller man. One year, this is in a ton
You remember when I was so any and tiny? I
went hear that now, well but a little I was
a I was a smaller back in the day. And

(29:11):
I actually went to like whatever Kmart at the time
or Target and got one of those kids outfits. You know.
It was a Spider Man outfit, was like kind of
the plastic latex stuff and squeezed myself into it and
I had and I just you know, had the Spider
Man mask going. And that's what I wore to a

(29:31):
Halloween party one time.

Speaker 10 (29:33):
Wait wait, you could fit into a child customers?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Well, I was Husky or whatever, the biggest one they made.
But yeah, I got into it.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I don't I get into it just you know, walking
around with the kids and uh and you know.

Speaker 10 (29:51):
We have are treating.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, they're twelve and eight, so we're getting getting pretty
close to the twelve year old phasing out here the
next few years.

Speaker 18 (30:00):
But not if they're smart. I mean, I have eighteen
year old in my front door. I'm like, what are
you doing.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Oh yeah, that's going on.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
That's like, do.

Speaker 10 (30:08):
You you don't walk around with them anymore?

Speaker 2 (30:10):
To the right now that this will be the first
year where I won't be walking around with anyone. Last year,
you know, we did the when he was eight years old.
But we have a we have a stree where old
street like you like you all like we've got a
ton of trick or treaters. So I like I grew
I grew up on a farm in Gallia County in Appalachia, Ohio,

(30:32):
and we didn't do any And I was telling Eddie this, like,
so I'm like super into just the fact that all
these kids come up to my door and whatever they're wearing,
and I just that alone. It's just fun to see
people and the energy of just the whole evening is
I get a kick out of it.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Sounds sounds like I'm seven years old. I get a
real kick out of it.

Speaker 10 (30:56):
Hey, you get a kick out you get a kick
out of it.

Speaker 18 (30:58):
We have to I don't know if your neighborhoods like this,
Like some of the fun people on our street were
like for the parents, they have like you know.

Speaker 10 (31:05):
Cold beverages for them because they're walking with their kids.
Do you guys have that?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, there was my brother in law. He is a
neighborhood like that, and he would have like a we
went out. We took our boys out there one year
because they had their son as the same major's jack
and he had a fire pit out in his driveway
and we do that. Several of the guys were gathered around.
We're all sitting sipping beers and watching the world go by.

Speaker 18 (31:33):
I suspect that since it's a Friday night this year,
this is going to be extra rowdy. He's not going
to be wet, it's not going to be so cold.
And so that's why I bought extra candy this year.
I mean, my husband went and bought candy and I'm
like that's all you got and he's like that's a lot.

Speaker 10 (31:48):
Of candy and I'm like no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 18 (31:51):
So I went and bought like double so because I
just didn't I envisioned that it could get ugly.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
You don't want to run out.

Speaker 10 (31:58):
That's the worst we ran out.

Speaker 18 (32:00):
I think it was last year and it was like,
I'm so sorry to turn off all the lights.

Speaker 10 (32:05):
I was like, oh, so embarrassing. It was so bad.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Giving out like cans of peas and stuff. Right right, right,
here's a quarter. Right, here's a quarter. You know, throw
a candle, tomato soup in there.

Speaker 10 (32:21):
Maybe it's expensive. Maybe I'm getting old.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
You've had your colleague John matt Reese, I'm talking about that.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Wow, it's up big time.

Speaker 18 (32:29):
I think we spent over one hundred dollars on candy
this year for two giveaway and and I'm maybe and
getting to that age where I'm like, now.

Speaker 10 (32:37):
Why do we do this? Like why are we.

Speaker 8 (32:41):
Kids?

Speaker 6 (32:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (32:44):
I know it's they're so cute though when they show up,
the little princesses and the little all their doorway.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Well, yeah, the little princesses and uh, you know, the
little pirate guys or whatnot are cute. But like you
were saying, those eighteen year olds who show up, like,
get off my porch. But then they have a pillowcase
for their right because they want to fill that thing up.

Speaker 18 (33:07):
Yes, my oldest son Liam, he had to handout candy
because I don't get home in time for the start
of someone the air, so I get home.

Speaker 10 (33:16):
Like forty five minutes late for trigger street and so
he would standing out for me.

Speaker 18 (33:20):
A couple of years ago and he dressed up This
is a six foot one kid right with a beard,
and he dressed up as Tinky Winky from the tell Tebbes.

Speaker 10 (33:31):
So purple, right, and yeah he's purple.

Speaker 18 (33:35):
And he's being like super obnoxious to these kids, like
the cute ones, Like if you were cute, He's like,
oh my gosh, you get a handful of candy, you know,
like whatever. And then you'd have like the eighteen year
old show up in like just a hoodie and he's like,
what are you And they'd go, oh and if they
didn't answer right away, go back in line, figure out
something else. And so he would make them go to
the bag cool and I just sat there like oh

(33:57):
my gosh.

Speaker 10 (33:58):
And they'd go to the back of line.

Speaker 18 (34:00):
And then they come up and like, well I got
thrown out of school, Like I'm a kid who got
thrown out of school.

Speaker 10 (34:05):
They come up with some wild stories like okay, that's
good enough. He give them like one piece of candy.
I'm like, oh my god, egg get eggs.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Making the kid go back an inventig backstory.

Speaker 10 (34:15):
You better come up with a good story.

Speaker 18 (34:17):
I'm not giving you anything unless you give any a
good story because you know there was no costume involved
at all, but it was. I mean, I have to
admit it was really funny.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
So all right, well, don't get your house egged or
toilet papered this year. Don't run out of candy again.

Speaker 10 (34:32):
Trust me, if we do, it's going to be a
bad situation. Maybe I'll eave it all first.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
See you Bud see our good friend Tanyo Rourke. With
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The accident here is clear, but we've got about a
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(35:30):
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Speaker 2 (36:52):
What was when she went to the Super Bowl and
covered the Super Bowl she borrowed someone's jack. It was
like this really cool like custom Bengals tiger jacket.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
It was like super cool. I think she made it.
She made it. Yeah, she makes the Yeah she makes
that kind of bling and yeah, she came up with
some kind of wacky bedazzled Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
That was when you know you're a true diehard fan
when you're making your own you're making your own gear.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
And she goes and I and she this ain't soon
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Speaker 3 (37:33):
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Speaker 1 (37:35):
So in other news, Jace, now see you think it
hit it sometime because I used to where we you
outdoor country roads all the time where we used to live,
and so I was always worried, especially at night a
deer because they, as we all know, could just fly
out of nowhere. I think we've had.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Between my mom and dad and brothers, I think we've
hit five deer in our is a driving career, Yeah,
I mean where we lived.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah again, close one time, but never clipped one. Well,
this is in is Zimbabwe, so things are a little
different there, and unfortunately a guy died yeah in this
bizarre accident that happened happened, well, it happened a couple
of weeks ago. The fellaw's name is uh Desiree maybe

(38:29):
is it a guy, but anyways, it is Desiree Moyo.

Speaker 8 (38:34):
So uh so.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Mister miss Moyo whoever? And four of these people were
driving along this highway in the night and they crashed
into an elephant. The other occupants of the car were uninjured.
One of them said the elephant was struck on its
backside after the car hit it in the butt. It

(39:00):
turned around and attacked the car and that's how he
died with on the attack. Oh my god. It is
believed the elephant's reaction did the most damage and led
to Moyo's demise, what what what country was this Zimbabwe?
It wasn't in Florida. It wasn't in Florida, And let's
let's say whatever. They still I'm not trying, I mean,

(39:25):
you know, but but still, man, imagine running and running
into an elephant and had it turn on you that
that sounds like now I'm going to have a nightmare
about this time we had.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
We have diet an elephant attack and I'm a nightmare.
We have a family friend that hit a buffalo out
and ah yeah, I've heard of Tanner and Wyoming when
they were driving across the country and uh, buddy, they
take it seriously out there. Man, that's a major fine
if you like you don't make every effort to get
out of the way of it coming up.

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States bringing legal action as the shutdown threatens tens of
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twenty four other states and the District of Columbia in
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If these credits aren't extended, nearly one hundred thousand Kentuckians
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Speaker 2 (44:56):
Day and age, there's a news story, multiple new stories
every day about it, it seems.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Like, and that's the reason this guy's staying in business.
He is our good friend, our tech expert, Dave Hatter,
and I will say it again. I've said it to
you a couple of times now that we used to
kind of laugh about it and give you a hard
time because you're so paranoid. And now the more we
talk to you and the more I read it was like,
oh my god, Hatter's not even tunneled us half of it.

Speaker 6 (45:25):
Doomsday.

Speaker 20 (45:26):
Dave wasn't quite as nutty as he's seen now.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Right.

Speaker 20 (45:30):
Yeah, you know, guys, I wish it weren't the case.
I really do, because these attacks that we're seeing are
increasingly frequent well, and they're increasingly impactful one in some
cases devastating both individuals and organizations. I wish it weren't
the case, but sadly it is.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Well. The one, the first one I wanted to talk
about this was on sixty Minutes last week, and this
is the one we've talked to most about. And I
think that a lot of us, I know, I've been
worried about this forever when our enemies in this case,
it seems to always be the Chinese, even though I
know the Russians have dabbled in it, and who God
knows who ell is, But the Chinese were discovered to

(46:07):
have infiltrated a water treatment plant at a little town
in Massachusetts now and completely taking it over, right.

Speaker 20 (46:16):
David, Yeah, guys, I'm glad you brought this up, because
this is the kind of stuff that really does keep
me up at night. I think you Beth know, in
my spare time, I'm the mayor fort right now. Thankfully,
we don't provide these kinds of services to our residents.
You know, the water comes from the northern Kentucky water district, sanitation,
sanitation district, electricity is duke, but we do got to

(46:38):
make sure that the ambulances role in the police role
when they're called. And you know, when you look at
this sort of threat to society, right, this is so
far beyond now just oh, we lost some money, or
we lost some data, or some sensitive information was exposed
on the internet. We're talking about attack that affect the
physical world and potentially could cause deaths, right. I mean,

(47:01):
if someone could take control of a water processing plan
and change the amount of chemicals doing and look up
the Oldsmore water plant and Florida for example. Or again
this is a recent story, just from you know, the
last month or so. These kind of attacks are increasingly frequent,
and most local governments do not really have the resources

(47:21):
to take this army. Now, most of them don't have
some nerd like need. It's directly involved, and I think
a lot of them still don't really take these seriously.
So I'm really glad you brought this up. But I
want to fill out a huge shout out to Ohio.
You guys may not realize that in Ohio they're leading
on this cybersecurity front on many levels. As a state
and not the reason, which is recent passage of House

(47:43):
still ninety six, which requires local governments in Ohio to
take various cybersecurity actions for lacks of better or, including
building a cybersecurity program to protect their constituents, taxpayers, et cetera.
So it's it's a really smart plan, huge improvement. I'm
trying to get something like this done in Kentucky. But

(48:04):
if you live in Ohio, you should be thankful to
know that at least at the state level, they're taking
this seriously, and they are requiring local governments throughout the state,
which would include any sort of you know, water districts
or something that is collecting taxpayer funds, rate payer funds.
They're going to have to get serious about doing this,

(48:24):
and I think it's long overdue because that story you
guys just point out shows this is a real threat
that's happening every day.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, I mean, I was reading the story, Dave, and
what's really I think the actually scary is nothing necessarily
happened there in Littleton, Massachusetts.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
But the FBI.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Found that the Chinese government remained they had taken control
of the network, or they knew the passwords or whatever
for lack of a better term, but they just kind
of remain dormant about it, and that's that's really scary.
And then the story he goes on to say that
the Chinese have access to two hundred utilities in small

(49:06):
towns and what what what what's the the end what
they do?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, what what's the what's the endgame here? And what
could really happen?

Speaker 20 (49:15):
Well, that's a good question, Jason, and you guys may recall,
because I'm pretty sure we've talked about it on your show.
You know, it's not just things like this, it's the
telecom network, right, The FBI was warning about Chinese Communist
Party infiltration and the telecom network. And if you think
about it, since everything is digital now and everything goes
through the telecom network at some point in the Internet,

(49:36):
you know, if you had total con if you could
backdoor to telecom network and flip the switch and shut
it down, will you turn off almost everything? I mean,
look at how devastating the Amazon Web services outed to us.
So that was only roughly fifteen hours of outage, it
took down sites all across the Internet, from video games
to ring doorbells. Imagine if you could go in and

(49:57):
just shut down the telecom network that makes all of
this work. But the answer questions specifically here, like these
water plants and other critical infrastructure. The FBI categorizes sixteen
different types of critical infrastructure.

Speaker 6 (50:11):
Obviously the power grid, water.

Speaker 20 (50:13):
You know, you can't live too long without water, guys,
and you know e electricity makes all of this stuff possible.
So when you just look at those two things alone,
not to mention like chemical plants and logistics, it's pretty serious.
And you know, if you're in let's say two hundred
critical infrastructure agencies of some sort, and if you're just
in the business, we call it dwell time. I get

(50:35):
in and I just work. I'm dwelling. I may not
necessarily do anything. I'm just looking for what can I
steal or in the case of an enemy nation state actor,
where could I plant backdoors so I can maintain persistence?
Or where could I cause a problem that would shut
this down. I mean to think about it. If the
FBI is saying two hundred utilities compromised, and I don't

(50:57):
know in this story they're accounting for the telecom network
as well.

Speaker 6 (51:01):
But if you could just.

Speaker 20 (51:03):
One day, when you decide that today is the day
we're going to take Taiwan where today is the day
that we're going to do something else in the world,
and we need cover for it. We need to create chaos.
We need to basically take the United States out of
the game because they have too many of their own
internal problems when you flip the switch. If you guys
really want to be disturbed, look up some stories about

(51:24):
recent instances where you know, a lot of the solar
panels that we now have in this country that provide
pallet came from China, and back doors have been found
in the backdoors is fancy nerds speak for a hole
in the software that would allow a remote actor to
take control or to shut it down. You know, sadly, guys,
we're at a place where all the underlying technology it

(51:46):
makes the Internet work was developed. When you get back
to the plain old telephone system of pots, you know,
one hundred plus years ago the Internet, TCPIP, all the
underlying technology late sixties, early seventies, when no thought was
given to day the entire world run off this stuff.
And we've been way too laxed or way too long
about doing the hard work because it's expensive and it

(52:08):
creates friction, it causes problems to retrofit security and on compitence.
But when you see more and more stories like this,
and you look at even some of the local governments
here locally that have had some fairly devastating attacks. Thankfully,
I don't believe any of them have been traced to
any death yet. But again, imagine if you could just
turn off the power or even just make it impossible

(52:29):
to dispat dispatch police and fire and then you know,
start some other sort of attack. It would be catastrophic.
And I hate to be the doomsday guy, but you know,
that's where we're at. We have got to get serious
as a society about doing the things we need to
do to protect our critical infrastructure. Because again, it's not
just lost money, it's not just lost data, it's not

(52:51):
just unfortunate downtime. People's lives potentially hang into balance when
ninety one one services can't get out or you don't
have water or power. Think of how think of how
unfortunate Winner would be in Cincinnati with no electricity. Well,
it makes for a really bad, bad winner.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
And think about what we're talking about here. You know,
they have the capability of they could have if they
wanted to shut down that water plant. Uh, and they had,
they've infiltrated like the like the Jason said, two hundred
others or whatever the number was. But this is this
would be all part of a coordinated attack, guys. I mean,

(53:28):
you don't have to be a strategic genius to figure
out that, uh, what domino is going to fall and
then they're all going to fall and it's just going
to create mass chaos.

Speaker 20 (53:39):
Yeah, it's exactly right, Eddie. And there's another angle to
this that I think people often either overlook or don't
always sort of understand the backstory on again, the idea
that if I can infiltrate your system, whether it's because
of bad passwords, whether it's because of legacy equipment that
doesn't get updates from the vendor. Also for whatever reason,

(54:00):
if I'm a bad actor, particularly a nation state actor
like a China or Russia, if I can get a
persistent foothold in there, a backdoor again if you will,
and I can just dwell in there until such time
that I decided to flip the switch. That's pretty bad.
Now you mentioned the idea of flipping them all at
one time, which is even worse. But imagine if you

(54:22):
could just continue to stay in there and monitor what
people are doing. All of the information you could collect
about how emergency responders would respond, what their plans are,
potential interaction because you know, thankfully, we have great organizations,
particularly in the state of Ohio, like the Ohio Cyber
Reserve with through the Ohio National Guard, you know, which

(54:44):
interfaces with the military to try to provide support any
event there is some sort of catastrophic cyber event. You've
got Infraguard, which is a public private partnership with the FBI.
You've got Scissor, the Cybercuty infrastructions to Tributor. There's all
kinds of people out there trying to help wake people
up about this, trying to help people like local governments

(55:06):
in Ohio descend against this. But if you're in there
long enough, you would start to capture all of the
planning and information that's being used to figure out how
to prevent this very thing from happening. So it's not
just the flip and the switch, it's all the information,
theft and all the inside you would get into the
planning and the defense is to try to prevent this

(55:26):
very sort of thing from happening. So again, I know
this sounds crazy to people, and then I just thought
one last quick thing stucks that you guys may recall.
It's I don't believe the US has ever claimed that
this happened, but back in like the late twenty ten timeframe,
Iranian uranium processing facilities were basically destroying themselves because someone

(55:49):
quote unquote was able to slip a virus in there.
And basically these machines would tell the operators they were
operating within normal palaces while they were basically destroying themselves.
So imagine the mansion, the chaos you could create if
why you're in these networks, the water plant or whatever,
the water plant is telling you. It's sensors are saying, yep,
everything is good. Chemical levels are fine, and in reality

(56:11):
they're actually poisoning the water, but the sensors are telling
you all is good because the software is picture up it. Again,
I know this sounds far fetched to people, but that
actually happened. To look up stuff's net and how all
these uranium enrichment devices basically were destroyed while they said
they were doing what they were supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
All right with that, Dave We always go into this
thing wanting knowledge, and we leave all kinds of depressed
and realize the end is dear Dave had Her. It's
always a pleasure, buddy, thanks so much.

Speaker 20 (56:43):
It's my pleasure. And it's been good knowing you guys.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
See see you on the other side. Son, are good,
Our good friend Dave had Her. We always have like
five things we want to talk about with him, but
he starts talking about one thing like that. But I
think that's the most important. But yes, man's that scary stuff, buddy.
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Ripen about your Cincinnati Bengals and what's coming up here
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Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Today's the off day, and then back out of tomorrow.
Wednesday is a big, big, big prep day in the NFL.
So I only know a little bit about the Bears.
How the Bears are so far?

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
What are they like?

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Four four three three something like that. Yeah, they're they're
they're better. They got a new coach this season. They're
coming off a kind of a tough loss at Baltimore.
I mean Baltimore without Lamar Jackson still beat him thirty
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Know, you're going in there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
The Ravens were one and five and no Laa Jackson
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Knew absolutely uh. And the Steelers got absolutely smoked by
the Packers the other night. That Steelers team man is
you know, yeah, well, let's well, we'll talk we'll talk
football with repeat. You know what, we haven't talked about

(01:01:24):
that World Series game last night? Oh did you? I'm
just still going on right it is. They're in the
two hundred and seventeenth inning right now. But no, I went.
I watched it till the end, and I was getting tired,
and I said, man, I gonna, you know, I gonna.
I don't care that much about either team, like like baseball,
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(01:01:46):
was bottom they got the third down, the bottom of
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to bed. And then I get up this morning and
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None of this ghost Runner crap and that type of thing.
Come on, exactly, play it out two games for the
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(01:02:10):
That I agree with that. I love that.

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I don't care if that's in the World Series or
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But I know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
When you're trying to appeal to new fans like yeah, yeah, yeah,
not a lot of them want to want to stay
up until three forty five, or.

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It might have been totally down for it. With with that,
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Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Back with Eddie and Jason and Jason. It's been talked
about here for the last forty eight hours. And guy
is falling, The sky is falling, and where is it falling?
Already the sky was blue the other day and now,
James Rapine, the sky the skies have turned gray again,
and it's stormy in the great city of Cincinnati. Buddy,

(01:08:39):
how you doing.

Speaker 20 (01:08:41):
I'm doing well?

Speaker 6 (01:08:42):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (01:08:43):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
James so so? James? What what kind of vibe you
you were down there in the locker room yesterday? What
you know after the after the wall fell, what what happened?
How everybody? How's everybody acting?

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Well?

Speaker 26 (01:08:58):
I think they know the significance of that game, but
they NFL players generally aren't like like us from a
oh well we lost to the Jets, so what does
that mean for our season? I think they're that they
were trying to focus and get ready for a game

(01:09:18):
against the Bears, right and try to move the page.
And I think it's tough.

Speaker 20 (01:09:22):
It's tough for.

Speaker 26 (01:09:24):
Me and you, but they have no choice, and so
I think that was part of where they were at.
But obviously they knew they should have won on Sunday.
I think everyone understands.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
That the ship James.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
I'm a loyal little watcher of all your post game
breakdowns on the CBT since I bang us talk and
I love it, and I always I love the flag
football When you always say the flag football ad, that's
that's pretty cool stuff. I guess kind of you know,
you're always breaking it down. You have great, great breakdowns

(01:09:59):
of the game and on the bigger picture of all
of this and where did this? Can you pinpoint where
this all went wrong? Defensively? And I know that's not
a this year thing you do. Was there a was
there a decision made a few years ago, or decisions

(01:10:20):
where you're like, yup, that was the turn and now
we're seeing the results of that.

Speaker 26 (01:10:28):
Oh for sure. Yeah, I mean I think I think
you're totally right that this was this was a problem
that became a problem the moment you let Jesse Bates block. Yeah,
and when Jesse Bates leaves town when he really hadn't
played his best football, like his best football has been

(01:10:48):
played in Atlanta. And so when you draft a guy
like that, developed him, he's a borderline pro bowler, and
then he becomes even better in one of the best
safeties in the league, and you don't him. And it's,
by the way, those guys are hard to replace. They're
hard to find.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
And this is.

Speaker 26 (01:11:06):
Exactly and so that's where I went wrong, fellas I mean,
and it's not just him, but like just just just
think if the Bengals had just paid Jesse Bates and
let's say they don't pay yourmain Pratt or let's just
say they don't pay your main Pratt or Logan Wilson,
and they just pay Jesse Bates, they're much better off today.
Amazing and so when you make those decisions, yeah, for sure,

(01:11:28):
Like they I'm never going to say, oh, well they
don't have the money, and like they still have the money.
It's not because they paid tier Jamar that their defense
is the way it is. But that's not it. But
are they willing to structure contracts certain ways, be aggressive
enough and spend on GUIDs that are in their prime.

(01:11:49):
That's why I wanted them to pay te You don't
let talent like that in their prime walk out the door, really,
regardless of the position, unless you have an embarrassment of riches.
And they've never been in that scenario. So it's started
with Jesse Bates and it's compounded since with with draft picks,
failed draft picks, letting a guy like DJ Reader walk.
I mean, there's a lot of layers to this. It

(01:12:11):
certainly didn't happen overnight, and uh yeah, it's it's been
one move after another that's kind of cost them over time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
We're talking to James Repeat from the Lockdown Bengels podcast
and Allbengals dot Com and James, in your opinion, what
what happens? Say they lose to the uh to the
Bears this week and go into the buye a week
is uh, is there possible there's going to be a
not necessarily a fire sale, but the moving some high

(01:12:39):
profile players, well.

Speaker 26 (01:12:43):
I think that that's something that they don't plan on doing.
But you're right, if you know, if you lose this
week and you get to three and six, you have
to have that conversation with yourself, who are you?

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
What are you?

Speaker 26 (01:12:54):
What are you going to be? And and that's uh,
that's a tough start to be it. And so we'll
see what they ultimately decide to do. I think I
think if you're three and six, you certainly consider in
listening offers for Trey. I think he's listening to offers
for for guys like that, you know, Kam Taylor, Britt

(01:13:15):
Logan Wilson. I think they're listening to offers for those
guys right now anyways. And so that that's it. And
that's why the loss the other day was as jarring
as it was it was because if you win the
other day, well then you feel like, Okay, there's a
real shot here. You're you're four and four, two and

(01:13:37):
one with Joe Flacco, you have a winnable game against
the Bears. Trade Deviline's coming up. You have plenty of picks,
like who knows, maybe at a piece, maybe you trade
Logan Wilson or one of these guys for a piece
that can help you and another team feels like Wilson
is going to help them more, you know, like that
that's totally realistic. And now it just feels like they're
they're fighting uphill again and they've they've stumbled back seven

(01:14:00):
spots just by losing one game. Because of the impact
of that game on what it could represent.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Yeah, you you are on top of all the players
that are out there available, and you know, when it
comes to local local media, you're on top of that
more than anyone about Hey, this this guy is on
the trade market out there. This would be a good guy,
a good fit for this organization. And earlier today you
tweeted about cave is a cave On Thibodeaux pass rusher

(01:14:31):
for the Giants who is reportedly on the trading block.
It made me think, like would they would they then
try to, you know, trade draft picks for a guy
like that and still think they have a shot this
year and I know that guy's under contract next year,
or even get a guy like that to prepare for
the rebuild, you know, going the rest of this season,

(01:14:53):
moving in the next season. Could could you see him
even going that direction?

Speaker 26 (01:14:58):
Yeah, I think it's certainly then they would or should consider.
I mean Avon Thibodeau. The reason he makes sense is
it doesn't matter what you do Sunday, it doesn't matter
really this season what you do. He'd be on a
contract next year and could be a building piece, be
a building block at just twenty four years old. And
so yeah, I think that's how they should operate now

(01:15:22):
is all right, Well, can you get win now pieces
that are also win later and can be part of
the twenty twenty six Bengals and beyond, and specifically on
defense because they've tried fellas all right, they have tried
to make this work and tried to get key pieces
in there, and it just it hasn't worked. And that's

(01:15:45):
the problem is try to try. Try. Fine, we'll go
get proven pieces. And if you think back to twenty twenty,
they did that. They get DJ Reader in free agencies.
Then they go out and they get the next free
agency Mike Hilton and Chudobay Wuzier. They got von bell
In twenty twenty, like a lot of the pieces that
helped them get to the Super Bowl they got in
free agency, not necessarily the draft. And so whether it's

(01:16:07):
free agency, whether it's trades, they need to do whatever
they can to upgrade this defense in a big, big
way in the near future.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Well you're Jane, you're hitting right on it, because that's
I mean, when you think about if they're going to
try to blow this defense up and then reload through
the draft, that is a long, long process and seems
pretty daunting and certainly given their track record, like you know,
you're looking at really a total rebuild if they're going
to go to that direction. So the best direction for

(01:16:35):
them to again maximize and try to recapture the window
of Joe Burrow, like you almost you got to go
through trades and free agency, right.

Speaker 26 (01:16:49):
Yeah, I mean I think so. I think that's and
I know we talked about like the state of the
defense and where it was and how it got there
have been rebuilt this off season, and when you go
get a new coach, you know, you think that way.
And the problem is that they just added TJ. Slayton,

(01:17:09):
and I like TJ. Slayton, but they yeah, yeah, I did.
Like you you need to if you're if you're reworking
something or completely renovating something, well it's probably not going
to just be one piece. And even if you like
those young guys, you probably need to go out and
get more than that. And that's the problem is they didn't.

(01:17:31):
They didn't do that. It put them in a tough
spot going into the draft. And then the guys they drafted,
which fine, if you like them, you like them, but
the guys that drafted weren't plug and play and they
needed plug and play instant impact. And so when you
you multiply that, oh, well you're not getting a ton
of impact in free agency, and then you're not getting

(01:17:52):
a ton of impact in the draft, and you need
those guys to be impactful or you get what you've
seen to this point, which is a defense that's uh,
that's young, that's inexperience, that's making mistakes, and that can't
do the things they need to do to be a
winning football team.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
And finally, speaking of that, James, let me ask both
you guys, and we were just talking about the failure
to develop these younger players. Is that a scouting problem
or is it a development problem with the coaching staff
in your opinion.

Speaker 26 (01:18:26):
Yeah, I mean I think it's a both the hens
as both you know, the scouting element. Like, I think
it's a tough spot for Demetrius Knight, who turned twenty
five in July, to come in and be expected to
be dis plug and play starter. He wasn't super experienced
as it was, and so that's that's a tough ask.

(01:18:48):
Samar Stewart, I like him as a prospect, there's a
lot to like, but it's no secret that he wasn't
a refined pass rusher that has all the pass rush
moves you need, you know, Like, so it was going
to take time and so that part of stuff, and
then their their lack of spending and free agency certainly
multiplies the issue.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
All right with that, Jacob, we will let you go, buddy,
Thanks so much, Thanks appreciate. James James Rapeen the Lockdown
Bengals podcast All Beengals dot Com And yeah, that's you always.
That's just been kind of in the back of my mind,
is it? The people are always talking about their lack of
a scouting department. But then okay, sooner or later you're

(01:19:34):
going to accidentally hit on some let's face it, as
a scout, these guys are stupid. But is it a
player development problem?

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
I'm you know, I'm b listen. You know James is
there a practice every day. He's there on a day
to day basis, so you know, certainly not won't argue
what he says. Uh, you know, I agree, it's it's
it's a little bit of both. I tend to lean
more on the on the front end side of that,
that the lack of a robust scouting department. And you know, Eddie,

(01:20:03):
we've been we've been talking about this for years. Like
I've got a question in my inbox column at the
Inquire last week. Someone was asking me about it, and
it just made me think. I remember back in early
two thousands, in the nineties, that was such a big headline.
Is like there's you know, they're lie and then they
they were so bad for so many years there they're like, Okay,

(01:20:25):
we're going to hire John Cooper, the fired Ohio State,
former Ohio State football coach, as a consultant, and that
was you know it. But it's so it's I'm not
I'm not whatever on that now, but I'm just saying
it made it reminded me of the fact that this
has always been an issue, that their short staffed player

(01:20:46):
personnel and scouting department has always been a question mark
and always you know, they have the smallest scouting staff.
You know, last year I did a column on it
where when they lost to Pittsburgh, I went and counted
up on the website. You know, Pittsburgh had twenty seven
at that time, had twenty seven people in their scouting department,

(01:21:06):
player personnel department, football operations, whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
You know. Some teams call it something different.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
The Bengals at the time had six, right, yeah, And
it's like, you know, oh, there's the difference. And it's
like if you're and the thing is is that the
more eyes you have, the more more things you can
put on the table, the more people you can send out.
You can send more guys out during the college football
season to go visit the Alabamas and the Marshalls and

(01:21:34):
even little tiny schools say when you have guys scout more, yeah,
slippery rocks and that exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
You like to find that diamond in the rough.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
And certainly the Kansas City Chiefs and the Pittsburgh Steelers,
you know, tend to find those kinds of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
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How we been man?

Speaker 5 (01:24:35):
We've been doing good.

Speaker 6 (01:24:36):
The weather's getting a little cooper here, and of course
football is not very fun in Texas anymore with the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
What about you guys up there?

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Well, things ain't going exactly uh, you know, hunky dory
here either the football team is doing great, but the
Bengals there they're struggle a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:24:55):
I guess that's the reason for Red Buddy to get high.

Speaker 23 (01:24:57):
Right exactly good uses anyway, So you got you got
to December the second right, you can still get hip products.

Speaker 6 (01:25:06):
In Ohio till December the second, I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Yeah, that's what we wanted to talk to you about
because and this seems to be we're gonna be talking
to a guy from ABC News hearing a little bit
about it, because it seems to be a nationwide problem.
But that was going on here in Ohio started with
our governor talking about some of these products that are
coming out that people are putting in packaging. It looks
a little bit too much like kids candy. Are you

(01:25:32):
seeing this all all over the place, that's all.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
It's all over the country, and you know, these are
bad actors that are doing this right, First of all,
they're endangering our children and adults that might think this
is a novel candy, not an intoxicating product. They're violating
copyright infringements when they call these things nerds and sour
patch and gushers. So I'm in the belief that the

(01:25:58):
cartels are the one that's really pushing this product out there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
That's what I was going to ask you because I
had read about it so called they're called it's being
called bootleg. Now, I mean, like, I'll give you bootleg,
a legit product, but do you tell me. So you
think that the cartels are behind this and kind of
marketing and on the sly.

Speaker 6 (01:26:21):
They are on the big scale, and of course anytime
that happens, it falls down to the smaller players. Guys,
you can go on eBay and you can buy packaging
that looks just like these packages that are empty and
put your own products.

Speaker 5 (01:26:35):
So you're a street dealer, right, and you're losing.

Speaker 6 (01:26:37):
Business to the dispensaries. Well, I can go on eBay
and buy one hundred of these little boxes and I
can put whatever. I don't know where he got those gummies.
He got him from another guy, that got him from
another guy and maybe got him from a cartel. So
this is a this is a real big issue that
we have going on.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Well, uh, you know, a couple of weeks ago, Governor
Mike DeWine here in Ohio was there was kind of
a funny picture of him holding up in one hand
Nerds a package and Nerds candy and a plastic you know,
packaging and then the other hand a package of Nerd
e and uh, you know, basically it was a you know,

(01:27:14):
essentially came down to the change of one letter. And
so what you're saying, j Man, is that we don't
really know who's making even though I can go into
ah there's places around Ohio where you can go into
a you know, a convenience store, not necessarily a you know,
a name brand type of you know, you can't go
to Walgreens or CVS, but you can go to that

(01:27:35):
you know, gas station on the corner or something like that,
and get that you're saying that we don't know where
those are really coming from.

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
That's that's my opinion, gentlemen.

Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
Two things.

Speaker 6 (01:27:48):
One, the street dealers are selling those, and then unscrupulous retailers, well,
they've existed forever. You know, you're not supposed to sell
cigarettes one at a time. A lot of those stores
still do that.

Speaker 5 (01:27:58):
They do in Louisiana, where I grew.

Speaker 6 (01:28:00):
Up, they do to some places here in Texas. So
those guys need to get their knees cut out from
underneath them because they're creating a bad image for the
ninety nine percent of the other people that are trying
to abide by the regulations, abide by the rules and
make sure that they're giving a safe product. But this
isn't just an Ohio of Texas. This is across the
country with these products that may or may not be

(01:28:22):
they may be nefarious of what's in that box, even
if you bought it at a store.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
So J Man, in your opinion, why would they want
to do something like that for the just the novelty factor?
I mean, what do you hope to gain.

Speaker 6 (01:28:36):
The money aspect of it. One of the things about
hip versus marijuana is marijuana's it's regulated more and it's
taxed more. So for that same buzz you get from
that gummy that might have come from your legal adult
dispensary might be the same gummy that you're getting for
fifty seventy five percent less in cost. And in today's time,

(01:28:57):
you know, everything's going up. So a person looking for
a little relaxation of above, maybe little pain management, they're
going to try to look at what's most cost detectable.
The same same thing happens in the pharmaceutical world. They've
got generic all types of drugs that we don't know
where they come from, and and people are buying and
consuming those because when they go to their doctor, the
regular pharmacy routes, uh, it costs a lot more and

(01:29:20):
we don't have as much money in their pocket anymore,
not even here in Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Fact.

Speaker 8 (01:29:25):
But what is this?

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Is this the delta eight stuff or whatever that that
when I call it fake pot, But yeah, that lower
quality pot.

Speaker 6 (01:29:35):
Delta eight, Delta nine, Delta ten, those are all derivatives
of the th HC cannabinoids. Some of those are naturally
occurring and some of those, like Delta eight, it's a
synthetic or a chemical process. So day Man says, staway
from anything that they've adulterated up with chemicals. Uh, that's uh,
you know that delta eight is causing a lot of problems. Uh.

(01:29:57):
These dosage amounts too, I'm those nerves, these that the
governor showed. They said there were four hundred and twenty
milligrams in that in that bag that knocked me and
Willie out. That's too much.

Speaker 20 (01:30:07):
You don't need to eat that much.

Speaker 5 (01:30:10):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
Is that in one gummy?

Speaker 6 (01:30:14):
Well, it's in that package. Let's say there's ten in there,
So that means there are forty forty two milligrams of
hip drives THC. That because of the Farm Bill, they
use some fancy mathematics to make these products work. A
lot of people may not realize right now the FEDS
are really looking at at at shutting the hemp thing down.

(01:30:37):
Ran Paul is trying to keep them from doing this,
but the opposing people, I'm getting emails daily about help
us day Man reach out to people because the FEDS
are now trying to ban intoxicating him.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
And that's kind of that was also part of what
the Governor de Wine was talking about too, with hemp
that derived of beverages.

Speaker 5 (01:31:00):
Yeah, and that's.

Speaker 6 (01:31:01):
Even more confusing guys. Right now up there in your state,
in a restaurant or a bar, it can only be
a low dose, but you could go to a store
and get a higher dose ten milligrams versus a five
milligram or less. So that makes the cost very prohibitive
for people trying to be in the business because they've

(01:31:21):
got to have two different packaging, two different levels of
potency in there. Just think about that. If you're a
whiskey drinker and you want Jack Daniels, well they've got
Jack Daniels light that you get at the bar in
the restaurant, but the regular Jack Daniels is at the
liquor store. It's so confusing. Of an Ohio, same thing's
happening here in Texas and across the country.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
And just for the novice person who doesn't necessarily understake.
Is so you hear of THHC, you hear about hemp.
So what's the difference between like, you know, you go
to your low dispensary and you get some gummies versus

(01:32:04):
I go to the bootleg you know, gas station down
the street and get some nerdies. What is there any
really difference there or like what.

Speaker 5 (01:32:14):
Here's the way I like to explain it is.

Speaker 6 (01:32:17):
All this is coming from the cannabis sativa l plant,
both marijuana and hemp. That's the fancy Latin word of
the genius of the plant. Marijuana I like to describe
as a big beef steak tomato, simp is a little
tiny cherry tomato.

Speaker 5 (01:32:35):
Both of them tomatoes.

Speaker 6 (01:32:36):
Both of them got a taste. So you got to
give a whole lot more of those hemp tomatoes to
equal the same amount as that marijuana tomato. Because of
the way the THC grows within the plant, so they
found a way to extract those minute amount the little
cherry tomatoes out and come underneath that point three where
it's federally legal under the twenty eighteen Farm bill, and

(01:32:58):
so that's what really started all this thing off. And
then they started synthesizing it, and then they started taking
the cannabinoids and making thc A and thc R and THDV.
That makes you lose what who thought you could do
marijuana and lose weight? Well, that's THHCV. I'd yet to
see the results of anybody getting skinny from using any
of that. But it's come a long way from the

(01:33:22):
seventies when I started with this, and it was Mexican.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
Dirt weed and that was about it.

Speaker 6 (01:33:27):
And now you've got thousands of choices of what to
do and a lot of disinformation out there, so people
have got to be very cautious in doing this.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Yeah, Jerry Joiners our guest and Jay Man, how are
things going otherwise? How's the media empire gone? How's weed
and Whiskey TV gone?

Speaker 6 (01:33:45):
Ran?

Speaker 5 (01:33:46):
It's going great.

Speaker 6 (01:33:46):
We relocated our studios over here to the historic Longhorn Ballroom,
a seventy five year old music venue here in Dallas, Texas,
and we got the Old Bridge Boys here tomorrow night.

Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
Oh cool, excuse me, Friday night.

Speaker 6 (01:33:58):
We got them here Friday night. So we moved our
offices there right in the middle of the music scene.
So are weed of whiskey is evolving to a lot
more music.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
Now, No, you partake in weed and whiskey at the
same time, or is that a no?

Speaker 6 (01:34:11):
No? Well I will, but I just dabbled with that whiskey.
You know, my wife, she gave me the stink app
I have to more than two drinks, He's like, but
you know, she lets me do a little bit more THC.
I guess because I'm friendlier.

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
That way, I would think so, I would think. So
whiskey will do some damage. Man, your your wife sounds
like mine.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Jay Man, she uh, I like you said, I got
to start on that second whiskey and she's just shaking
her head.

Speaker 6 (01:34:44):
You know, all these products, you gotta be sensible, use
using in moderation. Make sure you know what your limits,
and don't endanger other people. Don't smoke a joint and
then drive the car. Don't smoke at why you're driving
the car. Don't drink while you're doing this stuff. It's
it's you know, more and more people than here in
Texas are on the roads. You got all these California
people move here now. I'm pretty sure they're getting high

(01:35:04):
when they're driving down the road. So I'd just like
to stay home and talk to my friends on the radio.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
I'll tell you what, though, J Man, that that's smoking
and driving things a big to you. You drive down
the highway, I know you've done it or not. You've
done it in the car, but you'll be driving down
the highway and you'll smell it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
I was driving.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
I got behind somebody the other day on a city
street and I'm like, I smell it, And the next
thing I'm literally smoke just billowing out of the driver's
side window. I'm like, well, you're not hiding it at all.

Speaker 6 (01:35:34):
You know, they never knew anybody could hold that much
smoke in.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Their lungs, right. We talked about it on the show
here too, J Man. As far as the ones that
get me, or when you're driving down the interstate and
you can smell, right.

Speaker 6 (01:35:52):
It certainly has a distinct odor, does it.

Speaker 18 (01:35:55):
Men?

Speaker 6 (01:35:56):
And as somebody who used it for half a century
I've been using, it offends me often when I come
around the corner and I'm not expecting to get a
big old whiff of of of marijuana smoke. It's it's
it's beginning to get annoying in a lot of cities.
It's really becoming a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:36:11):
You know what. I know non smokers who are saying
that big time that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
It's I feel the same, you know, and I want
to see like you do you do you? And you
know I don't. I don't do it, but I have
no no qualms about you doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
And but it does.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
It's it's a it's kind of annoying, and it's it's
it's become prevalent enough to where it's annoying.

Speaker 6 (01:36:34):
And with the vaping, now, you know, our young people
really need to be cautious about this, this vaping. Uh.
They've outlawed vaping here in Texas for nicotine and in
which let's go along with the th HC products.

Speaker 20 (01:36:49):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:36:49):
But uh, there's so many studies showing us now that
the vaping of of marijuana or nicotine can really have
some adverse health effects. Uh as the smoking. I still smoke,
I don't smoke nearly as much as I used to
because I can get a drink or I can get
a gummy and it's a little bit better for my body.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
Sure, all right, with that, j man, we will let
you go. People want to find out more. Where can
they go?

Speaker 6 (01:37:12):
I Amjman dot Com.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Thank you buddy there it is.

Speaker 6 (01:37:16):
Thank you all right guys, any time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
Our good buddy Jerry, the Jman Joiner. What a guy
I'm talking about taking. I mean he was in the
advertising business or something back in the day and he's
turned it into that. That's pretty cool. I could see that.
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All right, back with Eddie and Jason in for Rocky
again today. And we were just talking about this Jase
with our with our good friend the j Man, And
I know Alex Stone from ABC is going to find
it hard to believe that the Eddie and Rocky Show
has a marijuana expert, but we do. And uh, And

(01:39:41):
we talked about this very thing because the governor of
Ohio has been battling this very thing we're about to
talk to you about. And this is nationwide apparently.

Speaker 27 (01:39:50):
This problem we were here, Hey it is, Yeah, it's
everywhere right now. And I you know, growing up in
our time, wasn't like check your candy because some evil
neighbor is going to put a needle or razor blade
in there? And did that ever actually go on?

Speaker 9 (01:40:02):
Though?

Speaker 27 (01:40:02):
Was there ever a needle or a regulator? Was that
Mom and dad just being like, well, yeah, I'm going
to keep this, I'm going to keep that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
I don't know, That's what I can never figure that out,
because well, when when you'd get an apple at somebody's house,
it was like really come across with the.

Speaker 27 (01:40:19):
Snickers, yeah, and they give you a toothbrush and you're like,
no way, I don't I don't want this, but but yeah,
you guys have been talking about it. This is a
trend that police nationwide are saying, hey, you know, it
could be a mistake that somebody doesn't realize that this
stuff gets mixed up in what is going into the

(01:40:40):
bag that's going out to the trigger traders who are
coming by. But these knockoff candies and chips that they
can be sold at convenience stores and gas stations and elsewhere.
That they look very real. They look like Dorito's, they
look like sour Patch kids, they look like Skittles, they've
got the logo on them, but they've they've had a
ton of THC or psychedelic mushrooms in them. And police

(01:41:04):
are saying that it's not gonna be good if a
kid gets their hands on them. In the Warren, Michigan,
they're saying.

Speaker 28 (01:41:09):
This, We thought for her so low, if a group
of trained investigators looked at this and didn't pay any attention,
what should have a hit going to do on Halloween?
And we just thought we wanted to get this message
out there to parents and children to be vigilant this
Halloween season.

Speaker 27 (01:41:23):
And guys, they did a bus recently. They found a
ton of this stuff and they said it looked all
very very real. The maker of trolley and nerds, and
they're saying that they're deeply worried about this candy packaging
imagery that looks a lot like theirs, and that the
items are easy to find, and yeah, you go into
a convenience store and many of them do have a
little logo on them for THC, but kid may not

(01:41:46):
notice that, and police say, ye, look for something that's
off or slightly the wrong collar, or it just could
be the smell of it, and there may be a
warning on it that says you know how much THC
is in it, and that that's going to be obviously
the giveaway if there is a warning on it, but
that the cops saying for unusual symbols on usual orders,

(01:42:06):
anything that may indicate this isn't and it does look
really real. Those who've been shown that these packages, they
say it takes them a second if they can tell
the difference at all.

Speaker 28 (01:42:15):
I don't know if they're trying to advertise a younger generations.

Speaker 27 (01:42:20):
In Arkansas, they're a tobacco control board. They're sharing similar
warnings right now saying that these are found all over Arkansas.
So yeah, it's something that is across the country that
the police departments are saying they're worried about. But it
does have a lot of THC or psychedelics in there
and could be really really dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Well, Alex, Yeah, no. And when you say across the country,
that's right here in Ohio. Our Governor Mike Dwine came
out just a few weeks ago where he's trying to
ban all these products because of the packaging. And I'm
looking at a story about this where he held up
a package of Nerds candy and then a package of
what's called Nerdy Bears, which are the THHC candy and

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other than that, why in nerdy versus Nerds you can't
really tell the difference. And yeah, I mean you've seen
all this and you're reporting too, right, I mean you can't,
but aren't aren't they supposed to be behind the counter?

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
These THC candies are not?

Speaker 27 (01:43:21):
Yeah, I mean depending on where it is. But the
fact that that has a Y in the name, that's
more than some of these have. I mean some of
them look identical or using the same name that Yeah,
it may say Nerds on it, and then with a
little symbol that says, you know, seven hundred what milligrams
or whatever of THHC and otherwise you wouldn't know that.

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It's pretty incredible that there hasn't been a real effort
to crack down on the right. And you know, some
states have been looking at it, but or the candy
companies to go after it. That these are not just
black market things, that they are sold in real stores
and then people can walk in and buy them.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
And we were talking earlier with our with our marijuana
guy about this very thing, and it seems was one
of the things that we that I had read was
that these were bootleg products. But right, I mean, it's
not right. These are legit manufacturers.

Speaker 27 (01:44:15):
One that I love that you do have a marijuana guy,
but Stephen Michigan that that was a boot leg and
then police found that. But a lot of it was
we be destined for you know, I think of the corner
gas station where there may be some things in there
that are not on the on the up and up.

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This isn't going to be at Walgreens or at CBS,
are at Kroger, that this is going to be at
a type of gas station where maybe you're just running
into the Dinnesota or you're running into to grab a
quick snack, and they've got this stuff somewhere in there.
But the bigger concern, at least for police right now,
is it that it will be black market or will
be in a home and somehow get mixed in with

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the candy that goes out and then a kid will
accidentally eat it, and not necessarily that it's someone in
a nefarious way trying to overdose a kid, but but
it'll get in their bag and then and then they
won't know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
All right with that, Alex, we will let you go, buddy,
Thanks so much.

Speaker 27 (01:45:14):
You got it, Thanks Alex.

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
And uh yeah, well you were you were talking about
how much candy you guys give out at tru House.
How many would just say numbers of wise with the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:45:28):
I mean, that's hard to that's hard to put a
read on. I mean what I think we buy like,
I mean, in the past, we've been buying like four
of the big bags of the assorted can but I
I've upped. I've uped at the six this year because
the last few years we've run out of candy and
there's nothing as I cannot stand running out of stuff.

(01:45:51):
This happened at Thanksgiving once and we had like our bigger,
broader family like the aunts and uncles and cousins and
my parents, and I got so ticked. I'm like, just
send everyone home with leftovers. You know, if you're going
to buy to but buy but buy too much food,
you know, buy too much candies.

Speaker 1 (01:46:09):
You can always give it away later or whatever. I
can just peace on it for the next couple of months.
What did you what did you run out of a Thanksgiving?
Pretty much everything? I don't know. This is like ten
years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:46:20):
I was so tick because like we were always especially
in my grandma like Williams, like massive, big farmhouse cook
did it up. And then we decided to host it
at our house and like we I'm like, what didn't
did everyone not bring a dish here? Like what happened?

Speaker 6 (01:46:38):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
I remember like being really ticked at my mom. And
it wasn't like because I wanted more food. It was
like you know, everybody you know, like you want to
have enough food for everyone?

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
Sure, yeah, it was weird.

Speaker 6 (01:46:53):
It was weird.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
That's Thanksgiving. You want to have too much food for everyone, right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
And we've always had too much before that and we've
always had too much sense, and you know what, that's okay?

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
Yeah, I when we would go home to my mom's house,
DEV would go she either had to work on Thanksgiving
or she would go to her parents, and I would
go to my mom's in Dayton, And so I would
go up there, and I would go and drove my

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mom nuts because I would go around and fiddle with
her settings on the stove. Because let's say she's making
green beans. Dude, she would boil them to mush push.
I'm like, and their canned green beans does sound like
she's already pretty soft.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
Correct, they've been soaking in that salt water and correct.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
And she fries a bunch of bacon, throws that in there,
and then just boils it until it's just bean soup.
And I would walk by and just turn the heat down.
And then later on she would come back over and
I'd see her fiddling with her She goes, what happened
with this? And I see her turn it back up,
and then I'd follow right behind her turn back. She called

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me one time she got all kinds of honked off,
but she got a case of the goo big time.
But but that's you know, well, you know my mom again,
like your family, they grow up in and she grew
up in down the hills of West Virginia. And that's
when you did worry about under cooking food because yeah,

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and so she would boil the crap out of canned food.
She would bake that turkey until it was I mean
it didn't burn, but I sucked all the juice out
of your mouth. It was so dry. What was what was?

Speaker 2 (01:48:44):
What was your your favorite meal that your mom made?
And then that'd be thanks to I mean just.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Overall she she was a good cook. It was, like
I said, southern food. What did you like that? She
made fried pork chomps, oh read to port chops, fried
and lard. She she made fried chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
That would That was my grandma too, was who was
grew up in Cabble County, West Virginia. She could fry
some chicken and it was all and lard. And it
was for many many years we always did Sunday. We
always called a dinner, but it was lunchtime at her house.
And my grandpa, before he passed, you know, we always

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My dad was one of six kids, and there is
when he's still living so.

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
Well, I had one other thing that she made, and
hands down the best gravy and biscuits I ever had
in my life. My grandma's was it was it?

Speaker 20 (01:49:41):
What it was?

Speaker 5 (01:49:41):
That?

Speaker 26 (01:49:42):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
White gravy, white gravy. Yeah, bacon sausage gravy. Yeah, no,
this was she made it bacon gravy, bacon. My grandma
was sausage grab I've never had the bacon. Oh, yeah,
that incredible. It was rich. Oh oh, I bet man
makes my mouth wall. The first time bravy. The first
time I went to bob Evans and had sausage gravy,

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I was like, what is it? What is this? Right?
It tastes nothing like moms. It's pretty good. It's not
as good as my mom's gravy had to be incredible.
It was great.

Speaker 6 (01:50:16):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
Oh, there was a reason why I was a fat
little kid. I was a chunker too. I was about
as round as I was going back.

Speaker 5 (01:50:22):
To being that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
But like then I hit this grosper between eighth and ninth.
I was telling my kid this the other day. I
was like, I was so skinny in high school. Yeah,
that was me exactly one of those things where like
I could eat anything and everything and nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:36):
I didn't put on any weight. Yeah, I think between
my it was it was between my freshmen. Yeah, I
think it was freshman and sophomore year that I grew
like five inches and lost like thirty pounds or something. Yeah.
And uh and I was like five six and weighed
like ninety five pounds. Yeah, my mom thought there was

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something wrong with me. Just hit your growth spurt. Well,
you know, little Mike. I told my kids that story
when they when they were younger. And you've seen pictures
of my kids. Yeah, my kids are both six two now.
And when they were, say in fifth sixth grade, and
they're like, yeah, they're going dad, or we are going

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to be as tall as you. I was like, you're
almost as tall as I am right now you're eleven.
Why I wouldn't worry too much about it. I assume
side of the family is where the heights come from.
Not not that tall, but I'm more or less, you know,
five eleven six foot, but uh, nothing like these guys.
Like I said, those boys can eat, they can put

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it because they look like guys. They can eat anything
and don't put anything on. My oldest sons, well, both
of them are skinny as real. Yeah, and the young
one doesn't eat nearly as much as the old one.
But the old guy, uh, that's the old guy twenty
six six. Yeah, he can. He's just one of those guys.
And he can eat a sandwich and be rated to
eat a field a full dinner that half hour later.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
And then make a dip in another hour. From there,
you can go to Taco Bell and wolf.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
The way home, you'll stop at Taco Bell and tell you, ah,
those are the days. Yes. With that, we took in
with traffic and weather, what is going on