Eddie & Rocky -- 12/17/25

Eddie and Rocky talk with Grace Tucker, Jerry Joyner, Bill Cunningham, Royal Oakes, and more on 700 WLW!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rocky and Rocky. You and I jumped all over this
when AI first became a thing, and now it's kind
of coming to fruition. People are starting to pay attention
to us because we're way ahead of the curve as
always of course.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes, as we always are on the Eddy and Rocky Show.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
But that was one of the first things when AI
started getting big. You and I were like, well, how's
this going to fix schools?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Right?

Speaker 4 (00:23):
And I've talked to one professor in particular who said,
you know, normally the standard test if you will or
way you you know, concluded if a student grasped the
information was a term paper, right, you had to write
a term paper of various lengths to you know, and
they would read that, the professor would read it and

(00:46):
see if you understood the subject matter. Well, now AI
can literally crank those out in a fraction of a second.
And you know, there's clues that net professors and people
know of that know if it's written by AI. But
increasingly those are getting harder and harder to find. So,
you know, how do you test students anymore? How do

(01:07):
you get a gauge on how much they how well
they know the subject matter? And also for students, it's like,
how I mean, the the purpose of you know, you
taking a course is for you to immerse yourself in
information and understand it. But with the quote unquote help
of AI, which in some respects means doing it for you,

(01:31):
are you really exercising your brain? Are you understanding subject matter?
It begs the question, Hey, let me tell you something.
If I was a sophomore in high school, say and
I got an assignment to write five hundred word report
on a famous writer, American writer, I go, okay, hey, AI, guy,

(01:52):
whichever pick your poison, write me five hundred words on
Edgar Allan Poe.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Right, boom, there it is.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
There it is.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
I mean, people are always always going to take the
path of least resistance if you allow them to, and
it's getting hard and harder to catch them. But I
think even more of a concern, as I said earlier,
how much of AI is a help?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
How much is it.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Helping your job or your profession or you as a student,
And how much of it is actually it's it's kind
of doing the work for you and thereby decreasing your
ability to think and exercise your brain and understand any information.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, how are they handling at the upper levels? And
we're talking universities here, and she wrote to an article
about it yesterday in the Inquirer Cincinnati dot com. She
is the education reporter from the Inquirer. Grace Tucker, we
know you don't use AI. You're sitting there. You you
probably don't even use a computer.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
You gotta I will skull type number two pencil. Yeah, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Just right, and we probably write shorthand or something.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
So so Grace, what are you hear? And you wrote this?
It was very comprehensive about all the universities around here.
It seems to be the approaches. We don't really have
an approach, but kind of do this and you'll be okay.
Is that kind of right?

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (03:19):
State Wide, there's no real standard policy toward how individual
you know, colleges of four year universities are supposed to
handle AI. They are ironing out regulations on the K
through twelve level, so actually here pretty soon. By December
thirty first, the Ohio Department of Education is required to

(03:41):
develop a model policy on how schools should use AI,
and then schools have until July one, twenty twenty sixth
to adopt their own policy, and that's you know, we're
talking school districts K through twelve schools, but in terms
of higher education, that's still somewhat of the wild West.
Specific bills are being introduced on the House level to

(04:03):
actually limit regulations on AI use. So what you're seeing
is kind of an embrace of AI at a lot
of these institutions, and mainly they'll outline their own AI
policies as part of just as you would an academic
integrity policy or plagiarism policy, basically requiring students to follow

(04:27):
whatever guidelines are outlined by their professors. So it varies
from class to class. In a lot of cases, you
might have professors who encourage AI or even require the
use of AI in assignments, or you may have professors
who you know, will automadically failure if you if you
you know, use AI. So it's really a case by

(04:48):
case basis. You know, in the article I outlined kind
of the handful of different degree programs offered at different institutions.
You see as a Master's Avenger nearing an AI, I
found it interesting that Xavier has a Bachelor of Arts
degree in AI. They are one of the few institutions
I saw where their degree in AI was a Bachelor

(05:12):
of Arts degree, So that kind of encourages a more
holistic approach to AI, looking at the ethical advantages and
disadvantages of AI. So yeah, universities are approaching it in
all sorts of different ways, and it's really up to
the discretion of a lot of these professors.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
How many professors, Grace, have you talked to that have
kind of fundamentally changed how they've conducted their course, how
they've tested for it, how they've conducted it. I mean,
have they discussed how it's really been a something they've
had to rethink the entire way, how they teach the lesson.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
That's a great question. I'm still delving into this topic,
so I haven't spoken with too many professors directly about
if IF and how they've had to rework their entire course,
but I have just heard anecdotally from professors and from
K through twelve teachers that this is definitely something that

(06:12):
they are concerned with. They want as much guidance as
they can get in terms of developing their syllabus and
integrating AI. And I think, you know, you could also
assume that there's some generational divides if you have newer
teachers who are eager to embrace AI or teachers of

(06:36):
an older generation who.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Are really.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
Less open to embracing it. So yeah, I definitely will
be looking more at this topic in the months to come,
and especially at the K through twelve level, once we
get some statewide guidance on on what districts are supposed
to do.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
We're talking to Grace Tucker, education reporter from the Inquiring Grace.
In talking to some these professors and whatnot along the way,
are you finding that they're using A and I AI
more and more in the application of what they're doing
to kind of help themselves along.

Speaker 7 (07:14):
Yeah, I think it depends on the professor. You know,
certainly in the K through till field, if you have
teachers who are stretched really thin, AI can be a
great source for You've got these different vendors that are
implementing AI, whether it be through literacy tutoring or you know,

(07:37):
coming up with assessments and prompts to test kids. So
there's a lot of private contractors that are that are
kind of promoting AI as sort of an educational tool,
and certainly in some instances it can definitely be a
tool and kind of used in tandem with just in
person teacher instruction and kind of used as a school

(08:00):
for teachers to lighten their load. And professors are experiencing,
you know, some of those same things where they are
using AI to whether it be to develop assignments. Now,
I don't know, you know, specifically to what extent they're
using AI to grade assignments. I know that a lot
of these institutions, you know, these institutions have AI policies

(08:22):
outlined for students and for faculty, so faculty are upheld
to a different set of policies. So it's not you know,
there there aren't teachers out there that are you know,
using AI as to substitute you know, for them or
for the courseworker for grading. That's not the case. They're
upheld to a different, you know, set of policies according

(08:43):
to the institution to ensure that you know, they are
still delivering worthwhile course instruction and that you know, kids
aren't being taught by AI, because that is not what
any educator wants.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
But I have to imagine the temptation is there, you know,
if you're a professor, to just like it is for anybody.
I just think people are naturally going to take the
path of least resistance. And if you're a teacher, yeah,
and you're bombard, you got a lot of stuff going on.
It's it's pretty you now have the capability too. You know,
I don't know exactly what way they would use it,
but for the the AI to write the lesson plan

(09:17):
or grade the papers, and I don't know, I just wonder,
you wonder, at what point do you need.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Teachers, you know what I mean, what point do they take?

Speaker 4 (09:28):
It take over a lot of the major you know,
applications of teaching the subject.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
And you know, you could say that I've seen even
just on social media though a lot of you know,
there's some resentment among college students because you know, if
you're paying all this money intuition, I find it hard
to imagine a scenario in which AI would the place
a professor entirely. But again it's there's still much to

(09:59):
be seen in that, in that realm.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
All right, with that, Grace Tucker, we will let you go.
Thanks so much, great.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Stuff, awesome, thank you guys, thank you.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Take care and yeah, well yeah, well what.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
She said right there to me that that's the major
crux is if teachers are using.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
AI more and more and more to.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Do the to do the work, and then but you know,
the price of college is never going to go down.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
They're never going to say, you know what because our teachers, uh.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
We have this, you know, we use AI and that
enables us to take a lot of workload off of
our plates. So therefore we're not putting in the same
amount of hours. So we're going to deduct ten grand
off your tuition. That ain't never happening, right, Well, here's
the deal.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I don't have a problem with just minor things like
multiple choice questions for instance.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I don't know, just top of top of mind.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Let the the thing could definitely grade those things, right,
shuffle it through there, right, you know it's abc D
or whatever. But hey, look if I write a turn
paper and you just feed it into this machine and
the machine says, uh, not that great? Yeah, I mean no,
not that I want you reading it and tell me

(11:12):
what I did right or wrong?

Speaker 5 (11:14):
Right?

Speaker 4 (11:15):
So I feel like I don't I don't use AI
that much, and I'm sure I don't, you know, exploit
all the capabilities of it. But for instance, you know,
doing college games for for to get kind of a baseline.
So I have East Carolina, okay, in the Military Ball,
I don't I don't know one thing about them right
or as of like two weeks ago, right, you know

(11:37):
what I mean? So kind of plug it in, like
give me a summary of the season, like you know
what happened, you know, wins, losses, losing streaks, winning streaks,
And that was kind of good to get, like a
one pager sure to kind of give you a baseline
here and then then you can kind of go from there.
But I'm sure if I was really savvy with it,
I could, you know, get all kinds of information off

(11:59):
of it, you know, But then a point, you know,
do it in my head? I'm like, you know, I
got to watch tape on these players and develop my
opinions on how they're playing. And could I just ask
chat GPT what what's the best qualities of of such
and such quarterback and then spit that out?

Speaker 2 (12:17):
That seems unethical to me.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
It seems easy, But what I'm saying right, it'll be
a lot easier for someone if I just had a
computer tell me what the best attributes to the quarterback,
then go on TV and go oh yeah, he used.

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And Rocky I wanted to try to get Deanrigus on
today and I just saw this story too late. But
maybe we can get him on later in the week.
This story talking about if you know soldar storms, we
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(15:02):
three days to avoid satellite catastrophe from a solar storm.
So if we get if there was some unexpected giant
solar storm, these things. There's fourteen thousand satellites up there.
I had no idea there were that fourteen fourteen thousand, and.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I mean cell phones, communication.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well, GPS, musk with all those earth Link satellites that
are up there and stuff. Seven eight years ago, I
think there were four thousand. Now there are fourteen thousand. Wow,
So these things will start dropping from the fly from
this guy, like ice cubes.

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Yeah, a couple of hundred and your figure, okay, my
chances of getting hit or not fourteen thousand.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
So maybe we can get Rigas on that, and you
know what we'll tie it to, Well, it's got to
be the aliens.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yes, let's face he knows it's going to come back.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
To that, but I think I think he hides from
us whatever. It's like when I see a you know,
possible spam on when your phone rings, I don't of
course I'm not going to answer it. Right He's Eddie
a Rocky on there. He's like, I'm good.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Well, especially when when there's some story has come out
about UFO's reck. He knows that we're we've already talked
and we're going to reach out to him, Like God,
it's idiots, he's clowns.

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Until then, In this day in history nineteen o three,
the first airplane flies we know the story right near Kittioch,
North Carolina, orbit and will be right make the first
successful flight in history of a self propelled heavier than
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a plane which stayed a law for a daunting twelve
seconds and covered one hundred and twenty feet in its
inaugural flight. And of course Orville and Wilbur Wright grew
up in date.

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No are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
No, I say, put him on the mountain when.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
We were when you were a kid, that was beat
into your head. We invented air flight.

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Yeah, any airplane is because of us.

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That water and day we did that.

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I've said this before and by the way, not reported
in this store, but Willie was there. Uh you know,
he was actually went an air later and talked about
it briefly, so he got to see that, which was
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Well, I can you can already hear the reporting.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
The kid fly and now we're stupid, and now he's
coming down. But I always think it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Okay, So the first airplane flight again nineteen o three,
and fast forward about eleven years or so. World War
one's going on, and there are planes being used in
World War One. Like in first the early ones were
just reconnaissance, but then they you know, they put a
machine gun on one and they would shoot at the
other plane with a machine gun. And then by the

(23:52):
end of it. There's they're dropping things out of them.
I just think it's crazy. From nineteen oh three to
like nineteen thirteen, nineteen years later, it's yeah, it's in war,
it's in war. I just think that is absolutely stunny. Again,
from a wood and canvas. You called it a plane,
but it looks you know, it looks nothing like a

(24:14):
plane today to you know, using it to gain an
advantage in warfare in the sky.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
I just think it is absolutely incredible. It could have
been that hard to fly though, dude. I mean, think
about that. A Beagle flew one of those damn things
and I could shoot a machine gun while he was
doing it. I've seen it on the TV.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
I had to get the inspiration from something.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
So anyway, But seriously, think about nineteen oh three to
when we landed on the moon, but less than seventy
years later. Yeah, from there to there and sixty seven
years is insanity.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
To me is insane.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
And in the next sixty seven years it's in terms
of I guess you could say there's been some you know,
great advancements, was not like we're I think a lot
a lot of you know a lot of people think
in the sixties that we'd be on Mars by now, right,
the Deessen's right, we'd all be in little our own
little soul powered planes.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
That that hasn't happened yet.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Oh, when I was a kid, or do you kidd
meet once we landed on the Moon. No, I was like,
I was like, you know, I'm twelve years old. We're
on the Moon. By the time I'm fifty, we'll be
on Pluto.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Hell right, Yeah, but it'd be kind of a similar,
like you said, a less than fifteen year period or
on the moon. Okay, fifteen years later we got a
colony on Mars, but that hasn't happened, which brings about
the conspiracy theories by way, okay.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Because we don't want to go up there to find
what's really there.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
No, never mind anyway, but no, this day in history
nineteen o three, Orville and will be right.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Well Rock, it's funny we should be talking in these
terms because my young friend, a rocket scientist this no, no, no,
what area was it?

Speaker 5 (26:07):
It was?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Didn't it doesn't say out east in the East Coast,
a rocket scientist who directed a top secret investigation into UFOs,
has spoken about some bizarre things He and his colleagues
have claimed to have witness We realize that people say
I observed a uf up close, maybe on the ground
that they always seeing bere paring our connection. Blah blah

(26:30):
blah blah blah, he recalled. Many of the officials with
the with this organization experienced a hitchhiker effect when they
seemed to come into contact with paranormal phenomena long after
they left the program. One investigator was plagued by a
mysterious by mysterious orbs when he returned to his home
back on the Upper East Coast. He even saw what

(26:56):
he described as a wolf like creature that walked on
two legs. I mean, where does stuff like this comes
from come from, mister Casey says. So one a guy
who worked on a UFO case reports that a wolf
like two legged monster walked up on his front porch.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
So there's like a werewolf. That the aliens are werewolves
now apparently, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
I've always been portrayed as like kind of taller, like
thinner people with bald, giant.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Heads and that, well they don't talk to you, right,
they talk inside your brain.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Yeah, they just get inside your heads, see and clear.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, well, I I don't even have to look at
my wife to know she's staring a hole through the
back of my head, right, yeah, man, And I know
it's happening because I said some.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Right, And you knew as soon as you said it.
Thinks about this.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
See, I'll I don't know about it. When you have
kids to tend to, they're just me and her around.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
See.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I say stuff to get a rise out of her,
just because I don't know. I flirt with her like
I'm an eight year old.

Speaker 20 (28:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
It's kind of like good, that's a good sign of
a good marriage.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
It's like the old man equivalent of tugging on the
girls that you like a pigtail in the third grade
or something.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
What we said there.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
And she'll make a comment and I'll just say something
and completely off the wall just to see what she'll
say to me.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
And it's just.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, see, I think that's what goes on in the
Willie household, Honest to god, him, he and the judge.
I think he does half the stuff he does just
to see what Penny will do. And Penny's just so
over it. She just kind of like, well, whatever, you
can live with him so long that her shock value
is there's zero. There's nothing he could do. She'd be like,
I can't believe you do that?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Right?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
See, well I don't even proposing nude as he did
was about six six years ago.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
That was a little while ago.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Yeah, I feel like that that probably was at peak
shock level. But after after that, where do you what
do you do? Where do you go to shock anyone?

Speaker 1 (29:16):
See, my wife would is just shocked that I haven't
been naked doing something like that.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yeah, I can give it.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Done that.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
A little disappointed you? You well, you recall we all
he said, I'm going to do this. You're all going
to do it too, right, absolutely, right after you do it,
we'll be on that table.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
No damn tooting, it ain't happening.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Uh.

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Talking to Austinar producers saying that this is a great
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Speaker 4 (31:34):
So yeah, so we have trags at four thirty five
on Bengals, and you know there's a lot of was
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between Trags and Zach Taylor today.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Here's a little bit of it.

Speaker 22 (32:27):
You don't get a chance to talk to ownership or
we don't get that opportunity.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
What kind of assurances have you been given?

Speaker 22 (32:35):
We just talk every week.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Every week you've talked about your contractor.

Speaker 22 (32:38):
Every week we talk about everything.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
What was the last time you spoke about your contract?

Speaker 22 (32:43):
And that's not really part of our conversation. It's every week.
We're just trying to create together a great plan to
win football games and make sure our team's ready to go.
Make sure I'm ready to go. So I know that's
of curiosity to you guys, but we're just focused on
being Thelph.

Speaker 20 (32:57):
Is there to say that's reassessed after this year?

Speaker 8 (33:01):
You know them ask them?

Speaker 5 (33:03):
Yeah, we don't get that chance.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Well, sorry, okay, I'm.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
Just being straightforward with that.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
We would ask them, but we don't get that.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Okay, feel bad if you've got to feel bad for
Zach too, because you know the front office doesn't answer
any question. I mean, Zach Taylor has to basically answer
questions on why the snow wasn't removed from the seats,
like I'm a freaking head coach. I did think it
was interesting though, that at another part of the YAH

(33:35):
he wouldn't confirm if he's signed through twenty twenty seven
or not.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
And it's like, why why wouldn't you why?

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Like why why wouldn't you just say yeah, I got
a I mean it's a factual contract.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Like what what is there to hide in that? Where
we're going to ask tracks.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
About that at the at four o'clock of because that
was definitely an interesting exchange and a lot of questions
come from it.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Well, yes, see when they talk about the bengalization of players,
well and it happens with the coaches too. Look at
what's been happened to these guys over the years. I mean,
I love him or hate him. Marvin Lewis kind of
you could just see it wearing him down year after
a year after year man until the end where he

(34:19):
just became such a smart ass.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah I was and Zach And again I don't blame him.
I mean, look, there's when a season like this happens
that blames should go to everybody, and certainly the head
coach deserves you know, a lot of but I don't
put the brunt of.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
This on him.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
I think a lot of everything starts from the top,
from the front office to the general manager ish, you know,
and and then on down. Well do you think there's
I mean, put it this way, asked this question, if
do you realistically think that if the Bengals fired Zach
Taylor tomorrow and got Sean McVeigh, did you really think

(34:59):
that they would this would.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Be a different team. I don't.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
No, I agree, I don't think it would be much
different at all. Maybe a game here, I don't know,
But I just don't think if you got Bill Belichick,
you got Sean McVay, you got Shane Style, whatever, it
wouldn't matter.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
And I think that's what's very disheartening the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Fans, and we get caught up in the when there
is some success that the Bengals have had, you know,
semi recently, get caught up and you say, okay, this
is great, things are different, and then it's like this
year comes and especially last week, you realize, nope, I
was that little voice in my head was right all along.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Things are never going to change. We'll be talking to
Tracks about that at four thirty five. Coming up next,
we have Jerry the j Man Joiner talking about the
possible declassification of declassifying marijuana as a what is a
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Say, and I did look it up.

Speaker 4 (40:57):
It was Nrewe is now currently classified as a Schedule
one drug, which the DA describes as a substance with
no medical use and high potential for not good things
happen to you, right, And I guess this is what
Trump is considering reclassifying.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
The reclassification process been talked about for a long time,
and it looks as though it might be happening here.
And to discuss with it is our good friend Jerry,
the j Man, the Joiner j Man. Always a pleasure
to have you back on the show.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
Thanks for having me on, guys. And you know, it's
a historic moment when the president wants to reschedule marijuana
from one to three. But there's a lot of hidden.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Things in here, all right, So describe for what would
that do? I guess what are the positives as you're concerned,
and why do you think pot should be rescheduled from
a Schedule one to a Schedule three?

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Well, I don't necessarily think going from one to three
is the answer. Guys. I'm more for total legalization. But
here's what I do believe is that these THC drinks
that have just really exploded all over the marketplace is
a play that Big Alcohol is gonna make because they

(42:22):
suspect one hundred and seventeen billion, that's with a B
billion dollars by twenty twenty three if they allowed these
THCHC drinks could be legal. Now we've chopped it up before,
guys about how a lot of us we don't like
smelling that weed smoke. You know, we might even enjoy
it but in partaking. But you know, you're in so

(42:43):
many urban areas now you just smell weed everywhere. You
don't smell that with these drinks. So oj Man he
thinks that this is a big guys to help big
alcohol get into the THCHC drink business. This is this
is rescheduling from one to three creates a quagmire for
everybody that's in the legal marijuana business right now.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
So in other words, this kind of gives the alcohol
companies like the better way to put a backdoor into
this industry.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
Sure does, guys, you know if they go from one
to three a scheduled three drug. If they make marijuana
a scheduled three drugs, everybody in the business of selling,
whether it's medical or recreational, now report to the DEA
and they have to have the same guidelines for their
facilities as a pharmacy. So nobody hardly is going to

(43:36):
be in compliant with that. The Controlled Substance Act causes
this to come under all these laws that the FDA
is involved. So one to three. While people think it
helps from the money because now they can deduct from
their taxes, I think Big Alcohol has been looking at

(43:56):
this for several years now and said, wait a minute,
let's let this drink, these THC drinks kind of see
what that market looks like. Once they saw how big
it was, they said, let's shut it down. Let's go
where we can control it by November of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
So explain what the issues with that.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
I mean, you know, that's going to make it more
widely available to people, which would please folks like you.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
What's what's the issue?

Speaker 5 (44:18):
As you said, I don't necessarily say it's a bad thing.
You know, these the alcohol companies beer sales have been
declining for years, and these THC drinks are taking the
place of that. I personally believe the THC is better
for you than alcohol if you want that recreational feel
of things, and with being able to dose it properly

(44:41):
and manufacture it properly. Think about it. The guys that
have been doing beer, this is a no brainer for them,
and everybody else that's went and tried to do this,
they have all kinds of problems when you're a little
guy trying to be a canter of a beverage and
compete with the big guys.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
So let me ask you, Jerry, we're talking Jerry Joyner,
j Man. Is the process of making these drinks, whether
I say it's an infused beer essentially, are they just
making non alcoholic beer, which is obviously very common and
just putting whatever percentage of THC into it? Is that

(45:18):
how that works? Or is there a special process that
he asked to.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Gondergre not not really a special process. There's there's two ways.
One it goes into the post mix or it goes
in with the carbonated water at the line. But virtually
every place I've ever toured they were a beer place
that got into the THC. That is there a small
craft beer brewery, and it was easy for them to say, Okay,

(45:45):
now we're putting THC in this, and the cost of
doing that is compared to what big alcohol can can
manufacture something for a drastic difference. So I think by
two remember twenty twenty six, when the law that goes
into effects for the THC or the HEMP beverages goes

(46:07):
into effect. By that time, big alcohol will have moved
into getting the politicians to change the little rules and uh,
they'll be in that business. And I think it's a
good thing.

Speaker 4 (46:19):
What is the Trump administration's impetus to do this? Do
you think? Just just do you want to see you know,
he's a business guy. He wants to increase business and
the things that will help the country, which wouldn't be wrong.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
Well, you know, I can't speak because he he does
what he wants to do, and he gets to do
that because he's the president of the United States. Everybody
that I know in the marijuana industry were really disappointed
with the way that at the last minute the Senator
from Kentucky put that banning of the HEMP in with

(46:54):
the getting the government back back in action. And obviously
big alcohol is and told that guy you can just
look at how much money they've given to him. So
this may also be a pharma play. There's just so
many people now that feel they're getting a positive effect
from THC being in their system that they're going to
try to It needs to be safe. Also, guys, there's

(47:17):
too many stories out there about some manufacturers overamped up
the gummies and people have problems with that. And maybe
this is a way to get people to not smoke
marijuana as much. I've been smoking it for half a
century and I know it's not good for my body,
but I think the THC is. So if I could
get that into my system through that drink, you know,

(47:39):
maybe that's a better thing for me healthy.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Here's a question, Jerry, So I got what a twelve
pack of cors lights say cost what fourteen fifteen bucks?

Speaker 26 (47:49):
Right?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
What does a twelve pack of THC infused drink cost?

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Well, they more sell them by the four pack.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
In the sixth pack, okay.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
And you're going to you're gonna be about twenty to
twenty five percent more expensive than what a beer might be.
But that'll change rapidly. There'll be the same prices as
as beer uh in the next in the next year,
uh so uh and and and controlling those doses to

(48:20):
a two point five or five milligram so it's like
a light beer or a regular beer. And getting all
those fifty and one hundred miligram drinks off the street,
I think is a good thing because we don't want
anybody getting over amped up on anything and not knowing
what they're what they're doing. So, you know, people are
accustomed to drinking beer and how many beers that they
can have and and and and still be in the

(48:41):
right state of mind. And I think we'll see this
happen with these THAC drinks. But I think it'll start
reducing the amount of smoke that happens. You know, they're
they're trying to put this thc A, trying to put
that away. That's the it's not marijuana till you light
it up, but then it becomes marijuana. It's kind of
a crazy situation. But as a proponent of cannabis not

(49:03):
smoking it and getting into a different fashion, I think
it's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
Now, I gotta tell you that the smell drives me nuts,
and you can't get I mean, you get honestly about
you know, five ten miles from downtown. Five miles you
start to smell it, and if you go downtown, you
smell it everywhere right at I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Well, let me, we've talked about it before. And Jerry,
we've talked about it with you. You're driving down there. When
I can drive down the interstate going sixty five seventy
miles an hour and smell pot coming from a car wherever,
obviously right around me that's going sixty five seventy miles
an hour, that's some strong ass weed.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
Man.

Speaker 20 (49:43):
Come on, it certainly is.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
And you know, guys, we're old enough to remember back
we go to a concert and oh, there's this faint
smell that you smell that. Yeah, oh, somebody's lit up
a joint. Well, maybe because the potency is so much
stronger now, maybe it makes the smell snow. It seems
like it smells stronger to me now. And heaven forbid,
if I light one up, let it go out and

(50:05):
light it up again. My wife gives me that stained stink,
I as if I had two week He's like, I
don't like to smell it when it burnt twice, you know,
it has a funky older and then they'll take a
cigar and wrap it around the weed and it just
it's kind of obnoxious. So maybe moving towards the drinking
and not smoking. You know, Americans have really not embraced

(50:26):
cigarettes like they used to, except you know, Billy Bob,
He's he's always got a cigarette in his mouth now,
But that's TV. I smoke for thirty seven years. It's
one of the best things I ever did for my
health was quit smoking, you know, And as I'm getting older,
I realized that smoking cannabis is not the best thing

(50:48):
for my health, but the THHC certainly helps me. So
that's why I'm now moving in twenty twenty six drinking
it or have a little gummy, but reduce how much
you're smoking it.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Well, Jerry, let me ask you this. We I know
we've talked about this before, but you brought it up
just now, and I'm still real curious about it because
I've never I haven't tried one of these THC drinks.
But yeah, and you said it, you know how many
you know what a one beer makes you feel like.
I know what a beer makes me feel like. Anybody

(51:17):
makes you feel like correct, I know that's what I'm saying.
You know what one beer, three beers, six beers, are
eight or twelve makes you feel like? Now as I
think people are going to obviously have to learn the
parameters of these tac drinks. Am I going to or
two of these going to make me feel like six beers?
Or how does that you know equate?

Speaker 5 (51:36):
Well, everybody's in the kinnabinoid system is going to regulate
a little bit differently, So everybody needs to find their
their median on this and median on this, and that's
why I suggest that that two point five milligram to
start with. So that's just enough that you might ooh
did I feel something, but not enough to make you where,
oh I don't need to. I got to sit down

(51:59):
for a while. The other thing I'd like to point
out is the effect goes away faster when you drink it.
It doesn't stay as long. So let's talk about We've
heard these stories. People eat a gummy, hour goes by,
they don't think anything's happened, to eat another gummy, and
for twelve hours now they can't move. That's not gonna
happen as much with these drinks because they're water soluble

(52:22):
instead of fat soluble, so it gets out of your
system a little quicker. You know, smoking is always the
fastest way to fill the effect of the THC. But
these drinks, now, they come on in about five minutes, Mike,
maybe a beer would and.

Speaker 20 (52:39):
It goes away in ten or fifteen minutes.

Speaker 5 (52:42):
So you know, consequently people might just like with beer,
you said, well, now a sudden I've done, slung back
a twelve Pat, Well, you're gonna have the same effect
even from the low dose THC beverages that you would
have from the beer. But the good thing is, I
think it gets out of your system just as fast,
if not quicker, than alcohol.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
All right with that, Jerry, Well we'll let you go, buddy.
What is the what's the jay Man's Christmas plan?

Speaker 2 (53:05):
If any?

Speaker 5 (53:07):
We're going to go to Oklahoma, get my mom and
bring her back down here to Dallas to let her
see our new studios and my new sound booth and
all this stuff. So we'll we'll just have a family
adventure here and uh, and I'll have to do the
what y'all turn me on to the cousin walk, you know,
as I'm an only child, I don't have a lot
of cousins or anybody else. So I was just a
j man walk. But I might have to do the

(53:27):
cousin walk when mama's at the house.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
All right, Well, good luck with that, son, and you
have yourself a great Christmas. And of course we'll be
talking to you.

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At five o'clock, we'll be talking to Willie. It is Wednesday,
so Wednesday's with Witty.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
All right, we gotta we are a couple of ideas.
We got to decide on which direction.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
We're gonna just point him towards Christmas and then he'll
turn back around and start talking about whatever he wants
to do. Anyways, right, probably Bill Belichick in Jordan Hudson,
Jordan Hudson or what's that's one.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Thing we got to we got to revisit.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
We've got to talk about when we do the Christmas
show at his house on Christmas Morning. Sure is he
drags us away from our families. Clearly the number one
talked about story on his show this year was Jordan
Hudson and Bill Belichick easily.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
No question.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
So I don't even know if there was a close second.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
I mean, if you haven't heard this award winning broadcast
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(57:13):
all kinds of stuff to shut up and talk about
Christmas stuff right rightly. But anyways, coming up with trags,
we heard that that's worth maybe playing again the thing
from the press conference today because that I think that

(57:33):
it is Zach's getting a little worn down man, no
question about it.

Speaker 4 (57:37):
Yeah, he's feeling I again, I think he's feeling the
fact that he's he's with an ownership group that is not,
you know, necessarily going to modify how they've always done
things in order to make things better or easier on
him or help the situation. It's like, no, this is
how we do it, and that's not changed.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
See I've never heard it's always been stated that that's
the situation. Hey, you know what you're getting yourself into
here now? Is that I'm supposedly understood on your part
or did they tell you going in, like here's the deal.
We don't talk to anybody. You handled everything, don't care
what happens. You answer the question.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
That might be a question for Tracks, but I have
to imagine you know, when you're hiring a head coach,
that's probably not something. There's a lot of things that
need to be discussed. So I'm thinking and it's like,
right as you're signing, Oh, by the way, we talk
once a year and you're gonna answer questions.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
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they asked you about the snow when the seats in
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She says evidence was withheld he says that's offensive. With
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Speaker 2 (59:06):
Mark Pete Meyer did Eldwood Jones murder?

Speaker 14 (59:10):
Wrote a Nathan Yes, Mark Pete Meyer, and Joe Dieters,
former in and of the Hamilton County Prosecutor's office, responding
to last week's announcement by current prosecutor Connie Pillage that
she's dismissing the thirty year old case against Elwood Jones
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in twenty two, Pillage said last week she's no longer
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Speaker 16 (59:48):
If she was to let this guy go, maybe she says, oh,
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I got no problem with that. She's the prosecutor. She
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I heard radio.

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Run a business and not thinking about radio back with
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Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Rock is still clawing through the wreckage of what slept
of the Bengals season.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
Yes, and I think it was a little more disheartening
when and what twenty four or forty eight hours ago
it came out that you know, Zach Taylor has signed
through twenty twenty seven, that's the report, and then you
know how Golden signed, and then you put together the
understanding that Duke Tobin's going nowhere he I mean, he's

(01:05:16):
coming back, and you start to feel, I think a
lot of ways like Joe Burrow felt last week. I
remember watching that press conference where he was kind of reflective.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
And in my opinion, he was.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
He was down not because of the current situation and
this year, but more so saying I don't really see
the light at the end of the tunnel. I don't
see this getting any better or changing. And I think
a lot of ways and respects Bengals fans are kind
of re coming to that realization. And a guy on
top of it, of course, is our good friend Mike

(01:05:48):
Petroliags Trags, how are you, brother?

Speaker 20 (01:05:53):
You think about a lot of things, gentlemen. You think
about a lot of things, Joe Burrow today at the
press conference, and to me, I thought that one clip
of him when Paul Danner Junior today asked him in
the press conference can you see yourself playing for somebody

(01:06:14):
else in your career? He said, you think about a
lot of things, and that those words to me are
pretty damning. Now to be clear, before that question, he said,
Paul Danner asked him, Joe, do you see a world
where you're not playing for the Bengals next year? And
he said no, I don't you know, And he was

(01:06:34):
pretty straightforward about that. But I think it was a
message from Joe to let everybody know, Sure, yeah, I
do think about not finishing my career in Cincinnati. And
I think it's obvious why those thoughts have crept into
his mind of all years, this year, just three years

(01:06:55):
into his extension or two years into his extension. And
you know, it was kind of a surreal moment with
Joe Burrow. There are a couple of those today, but
I will tell you Joe Burrow seemed more at peace
and more relaxed today than he was last week. And
I will say, looking back on it, it's almost as

(01:07:16):
if he had gotten the news that we got in
the public on Monday and Tuesday, he got that on
his birthday last week. That's how it felt to me.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Yeah, he was a little head of the curve and
the understanding that this is going to be the exact
same situation come next year. Now, well, we can get
back to Burrow, but we played earlier trags a clip
of your exchange with Zach Taylor where you're asking him
about the contract extension and if there was in fact
a contract extension, and I don't have ever seen this

(01:07:49):
before Trags, But like he he chose to not answer,
Like it seemed like a very simple question of hey,
are you signed through twenty twenty seven?

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
You know it's documented there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:00):
I don't think it'd be a big earth shattery piece
of information to folks.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
But he didn't directly say yes. What was the reason
with this.

Speaker 20 (01:08:10):
I think he wants to leave everything as vague as possible,
and I think that's the way the Blackburns and the
Browns want it. They don't want the specifics of any
contract negotiations, whether past, present or future, out there in
the public. And that was his way of dealing with that,

(01:08:31):
And of course I found it amusing. You know, he said,
you're going to have to ask the owners about that,
and I'm like, well, we do not get the chance.
And he's like, well, I'm sorry about that, and I said,
I'm sorry too, but you know, we're not going to
get any answers. And he knew the game we were

(01:08:52):
all playing today. And I will say this for Zach Taylor.
I know he gets a lot of grief for football decisions,
and he understands that dynamic. But he is the only
person accountable and answerable to the public for the organization.
You could say Joe Burrow is, but that he's a player,

(01:09:13):
Zach Taylor. Is it he gets paid the millions of
dollars a year. He gets paid because he will be
the mouthpiece. And one of the reasons I think they
agreed to go after the twenty two AFC Championship appearance,
not the Super Bowl the appearance to extend him again

(01:09:36):
was the fact that the Browns and the Blackburns have
the perfect head coach. He never gets upset, he never
gets rattled. He is always got a smile on his face,
even if the team is playing like dog crap. He
has always got that optimistic outlook, and the Browns and

(01:09:57):
the Blackburns love that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Well, let me ask you, Tracks Rock and I were
we just talking about this a little while ago. Do
you have since there are little fissures are starting to
get cracks in the facade? Is he just like is
it finally starting to wear him down? For lack of
a better way to put.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
It, No, No, I don't.

Speaker 20 (01:10:18):
And I used to think maybe I'd say after the
Bears game when it really got nasty and ugly. I
know there was some backbiting, you know, between the front
office and player personnel and the coaching staff, because you know,
the player personnel thought that maybe the players weren't being
coached the right way, and the coaching staff was like,

(01:10:40):
what do you expect us to do with with the talent,
especially the lack of talent on defense. The safeties were
not upgraded at all in the offseason. The linebackers are
two rookies that you're starting, and you wonder why you
can't cover a lineback or a running back or a
tight end.

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
That's why you thought that.

Speaker 20 (01:11:00):
That maybe there was some animosity between those two groups.
As it turns out, Dude's not going anywhere, Zach's not
going anywhere. So it's one big, happy family.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Yeah, And and again I think, in my opinion, Trags
that the defense needs so much help. It's hard to
realistically believe that in one draft class, in one cycle
of free agency, especially knowing again back to that same theme,
knowing Bengals are not going to make some huge splash.

(01:11:32):
You're not going to spend big time money and get
a top, top guy. So again that that's where that's
where the hopelessness kind of comes in. If we were
sitting here and and it was like, boy, three, you know,
top tier players for the Bengals, they just happened to
get hurt this year on defense, and you know, and

(01:11:52):
and we we know in the back of our minds
the Bengals are going to do everything to get get
a top tier guy. I think you could again, you
have we have hope that, okay, this thing maybe can
change around. But given the time frame and all the
dynamics of what we know about the organization, that's where
the hopelessness comes in about, especially about the defense.

Speaker 20 (01:12:13):
Well, James Rapine of SI dot com and Bengals Talk
dot com had a great question in that regard today.
He asked, Zach, look, after the twenty twenty season, you
went out and signed some free agents. Actually, even the
twenty twenty season, if you remember, you brought in DJ Reader,
you signed Trey Hendrickson, you brought in chidoh Awoozia, you

(01:12:34):
brought in some veterans in free agents free agency. Could
you see doing that again this year because the Bengals
will have cap space to do that And he said, well,
that's always you know, and I'm paraphrasing here, but that's
always the possibility. Our front office is always trying to work,
you know, to upgrade our roster whatever. You know, answer

(01:12:57):
that Zach was going to come up with. But that
is the kind of thing that the Bengals desperately need
to do with their defense. They need to do what
the Patriots did in the offseason. They completely rebuilt their defense.
I'm not saying the Bengals have two hundred million dollars
to spend like the Patriots did, but they still can
make significant upgrades and you do that with pieces that

(01:13:21):
are already in place. I do like the way the
rookie linebackers, especially Barret Carter, have come along. Shamar Stewart
is an unknown, but if he can play to his potential,
you sign a free agent or two on defense, on
the defensive edges, you bring in a safety. I don't
think Geno Stone's going to be here next year. You

(01:13:41):
don't have to worry about that, So they're going to
need a safety. So you look at all of those pieces,
and obviously there'll be the draft in April, but I
think the Bengal is going to have to go out
and make a splash in free agency on defense.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
Well, of course they are, but Mike, what's your com
is level that they're going to do that? You you
covered this team for.

Speaker 20 (01:14:03):
A while, actually, Yeah, I actually think there will be
some maneuverability. I think there will be some desire by
the team to upgrade the defense through free agency, and
I'd say two to three two to three players of
note would be brought in through free agency.

Speaker 5 (01:14:21):
I do believe that.

Speaker 20 (01:14:22):
Now, maybe I'm being completely naive, but that's my belief
at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I'd love it. I just don't. I don't know if
it's if it's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
Michael Trollie joins us see on s since he writes
for them the Jungle Rar Pod and always check it
out after Bengals game. Great podcast with you and Richard Skinner.

Speaker 5 (01:14:43):
Ed.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Kind of we were talking about this question earlier, Ed,
I'm gonna ask it that just back to Zach Taylor.
When Zach Taylor signed the contract to be the head coach,
did do he was he made aware that, Hey, Zach, Also,
by the way, we're not talking at all really just
once a year, we're gonna talk. Other than that questions
about even non football matters.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
You are going to be friends.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Did he have that understanding or is that just kind
of made clear early on that Hey, buddy, this is
kind of how it's going to be.

Speaker 20 (01:15:14):
I think he had that understanding. I'm actually pretty confident
he had that understanding. And ever since, anytime you hear
Zach Taylor talk about the fans or we need the
fans to show up, it is like he is a
part of the marketing department. He literally is trying to
help get fans out to the stadium and act like

(01:15:36):
somebody in sales. I mean he really does so the
answer to your question, I think he was made clear
of that, like the moment he signed the deal back
after whatever it was Super Bowl fifty three when the
Rams lost to the Patriots. I think he was very
aware of the other obligations beyond football operations and coaching.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
All right, well, tracks, we'll see how the rest of
the year plays out. And on pass that really appreciate
it man.

Speaker 20 (01:16:07):
All right, gentlemen, have a good one, Happy holidays and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Same thanks to us.

Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
Try.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
I appreciate uh jungle war pod and the ceiling s sensive.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
My Tris does a great job. I mean, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
To make a splash and free agency, I think we
don't have that roles.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
Yeah again, that that's the hopeless that the hopeless feeling
is in your head. If this was a franchise that
took big swings, right what, no matter what it was, Hey,
we're gonna trade up in the draft, we're gonna trade
down in the draft. We're gonna, you know, sign this guy.
And it's kind of a high risk, high reward situation,

(01:16:47):
but we're gonna do it. I feel like that's what
a fan base wants. But that's that's never that never happens.
Other franchises, franchise that win, they take take big swings
and they you know, sometimes they they don't work out,
you know. I mean the Bronches took a swing for
Russell Wilson that didn't work out, and you know that

(01:17:08):
that hurt for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
But now that's.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
Gone and we've they've moved on. They got bow Nicks
and things are wonderful. But I don't think that a
fan base used to see complacency, ry of just business
as usual is what they don't want to see.

Speaker 20 (01:17:24):
With that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
We check in with traffic and weather, what is going on?

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Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Willy is the one person I know I can count on,
my friend. I want you to know that I Bill
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Let me help ease your concerns, keep you informed, and
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I'm here for you. All you have to do is
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Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Here on Wednesday. That means coming up here at the
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and let's just have him kind of get nostalgic on
his thoughts on Christmas for as long as that lasts.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Yes, the things that Willy is thankful for this being
is what seventy eighth Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
Something like that. Yeah, I wow. See what gets me
is that we all know the rich, the boon vivant,
the man about town, the international man of mystery Willie.
Willie came from relatively not I don't know if it
was poverty modest but very modest background. Yes, it gets

(01:20:07):
where he's done.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
So he's got a great backstory.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
Well he should elaborate that. We don't know if we
have time for it on our show, but he should
elaborate that on that on his uh our Christmas show
over his house on Christmas Day.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
That you know what, if we get him doing that,
that means we can just sit there and drink our
dog and eat cookies.

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
Tell us more will Yeah, okay, And then what happened
in nineteen sixty eight?

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Right right? You know you're up to the Korean War?
Go ahead. I don't think has he ever made it
to the modern era? On his opening day speech in
regard to the Red No, And.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
I've told him for ye told him for years, like
now this year you need to start.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
You started seventy six.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
All right, let's even get past the first year of
the Big River start on seventy six and then move
on or maybe you know, start ninety start on ninety. Yeah,
talk at length about that. Of course after that there's
not a ton to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
But well, we'll we'll see again. We can tell him
what he should do. He's going to do what he's
going to do. End of story. Correct, we'll all find
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A man's body was recovered from the pond in Westchester
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And it was so offensive to accuse my office of
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Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
It is Wednesday round about this time, and every Wednesday
at this time we talked to Willie. It is Wednesdays
with Willy being brought to you by the fine folks
at Joseph Chevrolet. Now, William, we're all going to be
gone starting Friday, really after all next week. Now, can

(01:27:20):
you tell us what would you share? Some Christmas memories,
your thoughts on Christmas this year, your year in thoughts,
since we won't be back until after the first of
the year.

Speaker 8 (01:27:29):
Go well.

Speaker 12 (01:27:30):
Fortunately, the three of us will be together on Christmas morning. Yes,
and I want to thank especially Rocky. He's got three
little boys, who's going to leave them to come to us,
have the heads of the five families and a special
appearance Christmas morning at seven am. And I know he's
going to have to get up at five thirty or
six to drive in. You're live a little closer and
I can see the station from my from my front

(01:27:52):
door here. But the Christmas memories of me go back,
shall we say a few years? It was pointed out
to me by Elmo that in nineteen o three at
Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, the Wright Brothers flew for the
first time, and that night I had them on the.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Air, were in horrible earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:28:15):
That was a monumental day, and not just in your career,
but Ohio history them and Bob Hope.

Speaker 20 (01:28:20):
And Joe Dieters.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Yeah, talk about her.

Speaker 20 (01:28:30):
Yeah, it was fabulous.

Speaker 5 (01:28:34):
I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:28:34):
And then also you may not know, but thirty years
ago today, the Great American was out in front of
Cleveland Municipal Stadium trying to save if I could the
Cleveland Browns to stay in Cleveland. I gave an inspirational
address that Rocky heard earlier, in which I predicted if
the Browns are permitted to leave to Baltimore, that the

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NFL would have difficult days, They would not survive, that
the march across the land of desperate Browns fans would
metastasize all over the country. That as a consequence, if
the Browns went, shall we say, became the Ravens in Baltimore,
they would never win another game, that they would be
a failed franchise, and the Browns leaving would result in

(01:29:18):
NFL fans turning their back on the league.

Speaker 20 (01:29:21):
How that turnout, well, I.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Mean, they did win a couple of Super Bowls, But
you know, other than that, I don't know. Than yeah,
I guess we could maybe declare that a success.

Speaker 12 (01:29:35):
I think ray lewis maybe, And then the Browns have
done really well the last thirty years, correct thing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
And then by the way that the the you know
the Browns, you know then Ravens. I mean they won
that Super Bowl in like their first or second year.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Was very quick.

Speaker 12 (01:29:57):
Yeah, as soon as they left Cleveland, they a winning
Super Bowls.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
Well will you obviously you were up there for that game.
That was the last game of the season, and it
was it was Brown's Bengals, and if you remember, I
wasn't at the game, but watched it of course, and
the fans basically were dismantled the stadium. Well, it was insane.

Speaker 12 (01:30:20):
Matt Reeth, Matt Reeves had on Luke Rosa, there's a
name from the past. We look over his shoulder, and
there are fans with the chairs that they're breaking out
of the stands and setting a bonfire to warm up
in the dogtown. The dogs were cold.

Speaker 20 (01:30:36):
It was a cold day.

Speaker 12 (01:30:37):
And they dismantled and broke apart the stadium. I think
the Bengals won the game, but they might have called
it out with a minute ago because the fans were
like going on the fields souvenirs. That wasn't a proud
moment in Cleveland. It wasn't the best moment. Of course,
the head coach was Bill Belichick and his top assistant

(01:30:58):
was Nick Saban. I don't know whatever happened to those guys,
and the Browns immediately fired those guys.

Speaker 20 (01:31:04):
And I don't know what they're doing obviously, whatever happened
to those.

Speaker 4 (01:31:08):
Guys, right, Also, Jim Schwartz was on that staff. Who
was He was my de coordinator with the Titans. He
wanted won a championship with the Eagles a couple of
years back, like long time great DC.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
But yeah, they didn't know what.

Speaker 12 (01:31:26):
I'm up there with Mike Trevizzano on the back of
a flatbed truck, yelling and screaming that desperate Browns fans
in the front row was the guy himself in that
ugly dog face, and he was barking, and I'm talking
about Hitler, Nazism. I'm talking about Concord and Lexington, the

(01:31:47):
American Patriots, and I had them all fired up. They
marched into the stadium and basically set it on fire
and tore it apart. So and the upsher sort told
let him go, and the concessions shut down and half
time and everyone was told to go home because we
don't know what's going to happen with the dog pounds,
but they said it on fire, That's.

Speaker 5 (01:32:05):
What they did.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
So what I didn't get, Willie, was what was the
genesis of you been there?

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Were you brought up there?

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
Did they Did they tell you to come up to
rile up the fans? Did you just go up on
your own because you loved Cleveland?

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
What was it?

Speaker 20 (01:32:21):
I don't love Cleveland.

Speaker 12 (01:32:22):
But Mike Trevizano and I were pals, and he invited
me up tam I went up there with the segment
the night before. In fact, we shared a bedroom together,
me and the segment. I'll talk about his Mickey Mouse
slippers in a moment with a Donald duck head. Nonetheless,
I was invited by Trivesano and TM to come there
because there was a concern at the time. You may

(01:32:44):
remember that the Bengals. The Bengals were looking around and
Mike Brown had gone to Baltimore, and there was a
sense that Ohio might lose it all. And so I
told Tim and Trevisano and those guys, look, if we
need help in Cincinnati, you come down here to help us.
I'll drive to the Kingdom of the North two hundred
and fifty miles away, and I will help you keep

(01:33:06):
the Browns in Cleveland. No, that didn't work out so well.
But let me tell you.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
A segment story.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Yes, we're in a.

Speaker 12 (01:33:14):
We're in me and the segment are in a hotel.
And you know, I have a hard time sleeping with
another man. He kept rolling on top of me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
That's by the way.

Speaker 12 (01:33:22):
Yeah, yeah, I'm going so so I'm half asleep. It's dark,
and I hear quack quack quack, and I look look
up and I said, seg, what.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
Are you doing?

Speaker 12 (01:33:40):
He said, it's my Donald Duck slippers. I said, what
are you talking about? He had Donald Duck slippers on,
and every time he took a step there was like
a little balls in the bottom of the end step
and it would go quack. I said, say, you're like
thirty years old and you got Donald Duck slippers that
you had to put on on a car, but to
walk to the bathroom at two o'clock in the morning.

(01:34:03):
I'm sorry, Willie. And so from that point on it
didn't sleep. So I was operating on adrenaline. The next
day the game was like at one o'clock. I got
there eleven o'clock. And we had a large desperate group
of fans that marched around the stadium. They were half
blitzed by that point anyway. Then I climbed on the
back of a flatbed truck and led those fans in
a desperate cheer to keep the Browns in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
Now, Willie, were these people educated as to who you were?
Did they just think you were some nutbag with a microphone?

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
Work?

Speaker 5 (01:34:36):
Well?

Speaker 12 (01:34:36):
Trevizzano did a lot of introductions. They had former players there.
There were players from the late seventies and eighties who
came on the back of the flatbed truck and as
a loud speaker, and it kind of introduced me from Cincinnati,
Ohio and all of that. There was a booze were
raining down and then he said, but he supports the
Cleveland Browns. I give you the great American Willie Cunningham

(01:34:59):
from Cincinnati. And they did cheer a little bit. But
if you got the video, I know it was played
today once or twice.

Speaker 5 (01:35:05):
I liked.

Speaker 12 (01:35:05):
The fans were into it, and it was like a
wave that started low, got a little high and at
the end. At the end there I had them on
my side. Then we marched into the stadium. The first
thing I did in the stadium, I was with Furman
two is well behind the bench. Belichick comes over with
Nick Stateman, and I introduced myself to these guys and

(01:35:27):
I looked at this young Nick Staban. I said, what
do you use, I'm the defensive backfield coach. He looked
like it was about a fourth grader. This was thirty
one years ago. Got well, talk to Belichick about Jordan Hudson,
you know, and I don't know whatever happened. And so, yeah,

(01:35:47):
that was a big deal because the Bengals, you might recall,
we're thinking about moving to and Mike Brown spent a game,
he went to Baltimore at one point. It was in
the stands when the Colts were playing before they went
to Indianapolis, and he he was threatening to sell the
team if the sales.

Speaker 5 (01:36:03):
Tax didn't pass.

Speaker 12 (01:36:04):
And of course, yours truly was instrumental. I was co
chair to get the sales tax passed because I didn't
want the Bangals to leave town. It's better to have
a bad team than no team.

Speaker 5 (01:36:13):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
Well, obviously you were in the thick of all that,
and I remember when it was going on. But obviously
there was a lot of behind the scenes stuff that
none of us knew about. How close did that really
come to happening in your mind?

Speaker 5 (01:36:28):
I mean the bank was yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:36:32):
Well, you know, by that point, Paul Brown, his father
had died, the father of football, he died, And yes,
he said that we were losing money. The fans weren't
coming to the games. They started at Nipper Stadium in
the late nineteen sixties, and so by the mid nineteen
nineties it was like, you know, we can't live like this.
And the Riverfront Stadium didn't work at all anymore. It

(01:36:54):
was never even completely finished. You might recall they were
all concourses at Riverfront Stadium that were still not constructed,
even in the right center and left field. I remember
Johnny Bench hitting that big home run. It went into
empty seats because the county never finished the stadium, and
so everyone agreed it's got to go and needed a
new stadium. And I think it was good on Mike

(01:37:14):
Brown to go around the country as if he's ready
to move the team, and that caused the taxpayers that
voted in under the leadership of Bob Bettinghouse and he
you know, we hit him on constantly and got it
passed like fifty five forty five.

Speaker 26 (01:37:29):
And the rest is history.

Speaker 12 (01:37:29):
But he would have moved the team. In fact, I
still say that within when the lease is up in
eleven years, hold on tight because by then team's worth
five billion dollars, might be worth six or seven billion,
and there's.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
A chance that they'll move then.

Speaker 12 (01:37:44):
But at this point, let's enjoy what we got.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
That's all I can say.

Speaker 4 (01:37:47):
All Right, what happens in that situation, put your crystal
ball hat on a.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
The Bengals then sell the team. B keep the team,
but move it to.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
Whatever Antonio or somewhere in Texas.

Speaker 12 (01:38:05):
No, no, no in the NFL has an implicit policy
that before a franchise moves, they must offer at fair
market value the team to the locals, to the natives.

Speaker 20 (01:38:16):
And I am certain the.

Speaker 12 (01:38:18):
Guy that owns TQL and John Barrett Procter and Gamble
they're gonna step up and say five billion dollars, okay,
And I think the team's staying. But the Brown ownership
is another issue, because you know, Mike Brown grew up
in it, Paul Brown grew up in it. But Katie
and Paul H. Brown they've grown up in it. But
They're not football people, not even close. So I can

(01:38:39):
see them taking the money and running. And wouldn't you
that they're going to get it's paid off. It's worth
five billion dollars every year. They have cash flow, a
positive cash flow of about three hundred million, and they
can't spend the money they have for generations unborn.

Speaker 5 (01:38:55):
And so I put up with it.

Speaker 12 (01:38:57):
And the only team that voted against equity firms buying
a minority position because Mike Brown and his dad is
such a horrible time with Art Modell and beginning fired,
they will never let that team get out of their
hands until they sell it. And you know they'll sell
it at some point. Get a boatloaded dough and this,
I think the team will stay in Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (01:39:19):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Well, we'll see how that plays out. But I'm i'm
I totally am in agreeance with what you just said
about change of ownership. I definitely think that will happen.
I think they're fed up. I just don't really care
that much.

Speaker 12 (01:39:33):
Well, we're off the regular shifts after Friday, but Christmas
morning we come together as one. The heads of the
five families together is one and now we have a
new member, Mike McConnell's gone on to live somewhere in
Florida off the Fatted Calf, and Tom brennan has fit
in very nicely.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
Tom brenanhan well his first Christmas, Willie, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
It'll be.

Speaker 12 (01:39:56):
It'll be here at the house and Penny's already getting
some things frozen up. We're gonna it around, have some
brunch and have great time seven am on Christmas morning.

Speaker 20 (01:40:04):
You just don't want to miss that.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
Now Thanksgiving you have the ladies over and with the
Manni's and the petties. Are we going to get the
mannies and the petties while we're there too?

Speaker 20 (01:40:13):
Or what.

Speaker 12 (01:40:15):
Do you two guys want to manage?

Speaker 5 (01:40:16):
Here?

Speaker 20 (01:40:17):
And a shoulder rub?

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
No, I couldn't what you want. I couldn't want my
dad in the eye.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
I want a good looking woman. You give me a
nice shoulder.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Besides, go to work two hours radio.

Speaker 12 (01:40:30):
That'll be it?

Speaker 28 (01:40:31):
All right?

Speaker 12 (01:40:32):
Well, I have some good tonight. I'm gonna get together
the questions and.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
It's gonna be great, all right, buddy, can't wait.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
Thanks Willie, God bless America.

Speaker 26 (01:40:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
Yeah, And I was suret we didn't have time, but
bo and think if you didn't hear this. This is true.
Will He did have people over his house and he
hired a team of masseuses and uh yeah, and on
Thanksgiving manny petty ladies.

Speaker 2 (01:40:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
And I told deb she thought I was kid. I said,
she was laughing, and she said I should head over
to Willis and just show up. I said, I'll call
him right now and tell him you're on your way,
and I guarantee he'll be said.

Speaker 2 (01:41:08):
Her to come on over, Yeah, come on ahead, give
them give one ton.

Speaker 1 (01:41:12):
Eh, uh, shooting and that, and then I just show up.

Speaker 11 (01:41:16):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Just get over there, Judge.

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
You get your robine, Yeah, your gnarly toenails.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
With that, we check in with traffic and weather. What's
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Going on?

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All right, back with Eddie and Rocky a little while longer,
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on the Nick Reiner case. Make an appearance in court today.
Looks like Royal Oaks ABC legal analyst is with us Royal.
What is the latest?

Speaker 26 (01:43:47):
The lightest is that we expected an arraignment where the
charges would be read and the inevitable not guilty plea
would be entered. But the high powered criminal defense attorney
for Nick Reiner, Alan Jackson, convince the court to put
off the arraignment until January seventh. He says it's too
early to make a plea, and that's provocative because it's

(01:44:07):
never too early to say not guilty. But if he's thinking,
as he certainly must be, how am I going to
present the metal status, the drug addiction, the homelessness in
a lighte favorable to Nick? Writer? I think the defense
lawyer wants some time to come up with his strategy.

Speaker 4 (01:44:25):
Were they able to see his you know, you know,
how he appear at the arraignment? Did he sit there
and did he nod? Did he say anything?

Speaker 11 (01:44:32):
Did he yell?

Speaker 22 (01:44:32):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
What was his demeanor?

Speaker 17 (01:44:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 26 (01:44:35):
Nothing in terms of any extraordinary conduct. Interestingly, the judge
did allow a courtroom camera to watch the lawyers, but
no pictures of Nick Reiner. So probably it is very
first step the judges trying to tamp down the publicity.
Of course, people were called back in the day when
things got out of hand at the OJ Simpson trial

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with the cameras and so on, so that that's going
to be a big issue now.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
Royals you bing are you? Are you? You're not based
in ITLA? Are you?

Speaker 5 (01:45:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 26 (01:45:08):
I'm based in Los Angeles?

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
You're in LA? What what's starting to leak out around
the edges about this story because there are sources, you know,
people who were at the party, maybe people who worked
at the party, or people around that hotel that he
ended up staying in and stuff. Are there any those
stories starting to circulate?

Speaker 26 (01:45:27):
He absolutely. I mean, as you say, the guy that
checked Nick Reiner into the hotel at four am on
Sunday said he looked like he'd been tweaking, meaning matthamphetamine us.
I guess. There was the confrontation with actor Bill Hayter
where Nick Reiner, apparently at this coner of O'Brien the
holiday party, tried to interrupt a conversation Hayter was saying,
and Hater said, hey, this is a private conversation, and

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Nick stormed off, and of course the verbal confrontation with
the dad. What we're hearing is that the nuclear core
of the defense is going to be his state of mind,
his years of almost in this drug addiction, mental illness,
because I mean, let's face it, if the DA has
the goods and a strong case that Nick did it,
then the only real question is is he going to

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go for decades because of murder? Is he going to
go for maybe ten years or less for manslaughter, or
is there going to be a not guilty by reason
of insanity deal where he goes to a hospital and
is confined but is actually sent to prison. Those really
are the three realistic options, and.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
Royal I know, you know the Winers had three other kids.
Do we know anything about their relationship with Nick over
the past decade and have they said anything recently?

Speaker 26 (01:46:39):
I haven't heard anything about their relationship. And of course
we do know a lot about Nick because he collaborated
with his dad writing that movie and filming it a
decade or so ago about a similar situation, a young
man son of a high profile person that was fighting
a drug addiction. So really the focus has been on

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him to the extent the family may have mixed feelings.
Like you know, in the Menenda situation, extended family members
were saying, hey, let's help the sons get out because
the parents were monsters. Nobody's saying that Michelle and Rob
were monsters. And yet the family may be saying to themselves, look,
we wanted to get help. We've been struggling with his

(01:47:22):
his demons for decades. If he has to go to
prison for a brief period, of time. Okay, we'd rather
just get the help whatever happens. We want to avoid
a murder conviction where he sits in a cell the
rest of his life, or even as exposed to the
death penalty.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
Yeah, that's the death penalty thing, Royal, And I was
going to ask you about that, because that's that's been
kicked around a lot too. I don't see that as
an option to you. I'm curious.

Speaker 26 (01:47:47):
Now here's the deal. California is one of the many
states that still has the death penalty on the books,
but as you know, our Governor Gavin Newsom doesn't think
that it should be on the books, and therefore, through
moratoriums executive orders, he's basically shut it down. No executions
in California. Of course, who knows how long he's going
to be there. With a person with a history of

(01:48:07):
mental illness and addiction and saw on, it's pretty unlikely
that he would wind up being sentenced to death after
a murder conviction. That's certainly job number one for the
defense team and probably members of the family, hoping they
can avoid that fate.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
All right, with that, Royal, we will let you go, buddy,
Thank you so much. You bet Banks Rock in other news.
You know my mom's side of the families, from my
people from West Virginia, West by God, and this happened
there a couple of weeks ago. Guy suffered a gunshot
wound while he said his rifle was being cleaned. When

(01:48:47):
officers arrived, there were two minute at the house and
they told the true story. They had been shooting out
the second window of the second story window of the
home at rats. So I guess one guy probably all

(01:49:08):
beard up or whatnot, and one guy tried to take
a take the gun from the other guy, and the
gun went off and shot him in the leg. He's uh,
he's all right. It didn't didn't kill him or anything.
But the homeowner, Mark Fuller, was charged with one endangerment
endangerment involving a firearm and just just discharging it within

(01:49:29):
five hundred feet of a dwelling. So he shot his buddy,
but that's not important. You just random firing out the
second story going all you know, oswald on rats in
your front yard. I guess it is frowned on.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
Did you say what kind of gun it was?

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
I'm guessing a twenty two or I was it a blow?

Speaker 5 (01:49:49):
That guy like.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
That one would have hurt.

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
And other news and speaking of and this is interesting
because it's Ohio related Cyahoga County. So do you know
what fishers are? Okay, So fishers are like they're like
relatives of weasels, minx otters are kind of like little furry,
kind of no marsupial ish type of creatures. Well, apparently

(01:50:19):
they disappeared in in the Cuyahoga County area in the
eighteen hundreds. You know, they're kind of hunted out and
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
More or less made extinct.

Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
But Cleveland Metro Parks has shared news of what they
think is an incredible, impossible comeback, writing that is the
first record in Cayoga County since the species originally disappeared
in the eighteen hundreds. I think these fishers are back.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:50:49):
Yeah, they're going to say that it's estimated that the
fisher was expatriated.

Speaker 2 (01:50:54):
Or or I guess or not expatriate, extra pat exterminated,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
High But the mid eighteen hunters and the major cause
calls were unregulated harvest and loss of habitat means they
were hunted and sure houses were built and boom, Well how.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
Could they be making a comeback of that's.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
What's a miracle. And I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
They talk about conservation efforts and you know this and that,
but I guess, you know, with creating more parks and
things like that. For whatever reason, you know, nature finds
a way. But they feel like, or they say that
there's been spottings of these these fissure things on trail camps.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Now, see, I I wonder if it's like some mad
scientist thing or something, you know, because you always hear well,
like you know, Jurassic Park and all that, because I
saw not too long ago speaking of this type of thing.
They're they think they have now have a way to
DNA transplant and make a woodly mammoth I've been talking

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about doing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:04):
Yeah I have, right, Yeah, here here's these things are.

Speaker 4 (01:52:09):
If a fisher's primarily eat mice, birds and squirrels, how
big are they?

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
It doesn't say, but from what I'm saying, it looked.

Speaker 1 (01:52:17):
Like a raccoon bigger than raccoon.

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
Yeah, maybe a little bigger than a raccoon, like a
like an otter, yeah, sealed or something.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
Yeah. I never a mink, you know that, that that
kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
Yeah, I've never heard of them either, but apparently they
disappeared in the eighteen eighties and now they're back. So
go up to Kayakoga Cuyahoga County, folks and go find
you a fisher.

Speaker 1 (01:52:42):
It figures in Cleveland they could come up with some
kind of a new uh raant.

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
Well here here, here's here's a video right here. Let
me let me show see. It's like like like a
like a bigger cat kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
Yeah, it looks like a good sized raccoon, is what
it looks like.

Speaker 5 (01:52:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
Yeah, so there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:53:01):
Well, there you go, kids, fun and educational to the show.

Speaker 4 (01:53:05):
But I mean I feel like that there's been many
instances of that, where not many, but more than you
would think of. Like they think something's wiped out and
then they boom, they find one.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
Didn't they do that with that Tasmanian not a Tasmanian type.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
I remember when they were talking about Buffalo worried almost instinct,
and now all of a sudden, the nerd everywhere where, everywhere. Yeah,
just just ask the people who get trampled by them
out in Yellowstone.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
As they're getting their selfies.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
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